1 00:00:15,410 --> 00:00:26,570 Speaker 1: Pushkin, Derek Bentley towered over the guards pacing beside him 2 00:00:26,690 --> 00:00:31,010 Speaker 1: in the exercise yard of London's Wandsworth Prison. Derek was 3 00:00:31,050 --> 00:00:34,650 Speaker 1: broader than his warders too. He was a physically imposing 4 00:00:34,810 --> 00:00:37,770 Speaker 1: nineteen year old with the look of a weightlifter or 5 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:42,490 Speaker 1: a boxer. The prisoner's shock of yellow hair, worn long 6 00:00:42,570 --> 00:00:45,930 Speaker 1: and combed back, as was the teen fashion in nineteen 7 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:52,050 Speaker 1: fifty three, danced in the cold winter breeze. Occasionally, smoke 8 00:00:52,090 --> 00:00:55,530 Speaker 1: from a cigarette would blow back into Derek's eyes, making 9 00:00:55,610 --> 00:01:00,210 Speaker 1: him WinCE. But despite his bulk, a visitor to the jail, 10 00:01:00,650 --> 00:01:04,930 Speaker 1: looking down at the scene and carefully sizing Bentley up, 11 00:01:05,730 --> 00:01:08,850 Speaker 1: saw something childlike in the convict. 12 00:01:10,450 --> 00:01:12,970 Speaker 2: In his great prison clause, he looked like a schoolboy 13 00:01:13,130 --> 00:01:15,770 Speaker 2: dressed for some classroom charade. 14 00:01:16,370 --> 00:01:21,010 Speaker 1: The prison doctors agreed. Since his arrest the previous November, 15 00:01:21,610 --> 00:01:25,610 Speaker 1: they had subjected Derek to a battery of tests. The 16 00:01:25,650 --> 00:01:29,850 Speaker 1: results revealed a low IQ, a dearth of literacy skills, 17 00:01:30,250 --> 00:01:33,890 Speaker 1: and the developmental age god of nineteen but more like 18 00:01:33,930 --> 00:01:38,010 Speaker 1: that of a child of eleven or twelve. The prisoner 19 00:01:38,170 --> 00:01:40,730 Speaker 1: was deemed to be, in the parlance of the time, 20 00:01:41,450 --> 00:01:47,130 Speaker 1: borderline feeble minded. In truth. There were many things that 21 00:01:47,290 --> 00:01:52,650 Speaker 1: Derek Bentley didn't understand, but the most pressing was why 22 00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:58,650 Speaker 1: he was in prison awaiting execution. He had broken into 23 00:01:58,690 --> 00:02:03,050 Speaker 1: a warehouse, and during the course of that crime, a 24 00:02:03,050 --> 00:02:08,930 Speaker 1: policeman had been shot dead, but Derek hadn't held the gun. 25 00:02:09,170 --> 00:02:12,370 Speaker 1: Was already under arrest when the fatal shot rang out. 26 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:17,730 Speaker 1: The murderer, a sixteen year old named Christopher Craig, had 27 00:02:17,770 --> 00:02:21,970 Speaker 1: been found guilty of the actual killing, but he wasn't 28 00:02:21,970 --> 00:02:27,130 Speaker 1: going to hang. It all confused Derek Bentley. Why was 29 00:02:27,170 --> 00:02:32,050 Speaker 1: he the one to die. Derek's family didn't think he 30 00:02:32,090 --> 00:02:35,490 Speaker 1: should hang either. The trial jury had asked for the 31 00:02:35,530 --> 00:02:39,290 Speaker 1: death penalty not to be imposed, so there seemed to 32 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:44,570 Speaker 1: be hoped that the authorities would heed this appeal for clemency. Indeed, 33 00:02:44,810 --> 00:02:48,210 Speaker 1: so certain were the Bentless that he'd be freed, they'd 34 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:51,890 Speaker 1: wrapped Christmas presents for Derek, a tie and a box 35 00:02:51,930 --> 00:02:56,490 Speaker 1: of chocolates, and placed them under the family tree. You 36 00:02:56,490 --> 00:02:59,250 Speaker 1: can open them when you get home, was the implication. 37 00:03:00,690 --> 00:03:04,610 Speaker 1: But as December gave way to January and the date 38 00:03:04,690 --> 00:03:09,050 Speaker 1: of his execution drew near, the man who held Derrek's 39 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:14,170 Speaker 1: fate in his hands home Secretary David Maxwell Fife was 40 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:18,330 Speaker 1: in no mood to show leniency. A petition by more 41 00:03:18,370 --> 00:03:22,890 Speaker 1: than two hundred members of Parliament, plus protests outside Downing 42 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:27,570 Speaker 1: Street and government offices, and finally, Maxwell Fife's own home 43 00:03:28,330 --> 00:03:31,450 Speaker 1: hadn't yet prompted the cabinet minister to change his mind. 44 00:03:34,090 --> 00:03:38,930 Speaker 1: On the evening before his son's scheduled execution, William Bentley 45 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:44,050 Speaker 1: led that noisy rally outside the politician's Smart London apartment. 46 00:03:45,010 --> 00:03:49,290 Speaker 3: Bentley is not sleeping tonight, said William of his boy 47 00:03:50,290 --> 00:03:52,450 Speaker 3: Anira Shall Maxwell. 48 00:03:52,730 --> 00:03:57,890 Speaker 1: What the newspapers and radio were a buzz with these 49 00:03:58,050 --> 00:04:02,970 Speaker 1: last minute moves. Political leaders, among the men who'd held 50 00:04:03,130 --> 00:04:08,210 Speaker 1: senior legal positions, beseeched Her Majesty the Queen to intervene 51 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:12,570 Speaker 1: in a case that they said out of accord with 52 00:04:12,770 --> 00:04:19,130 Speaker 1: natural justice. So at one minute to nine on the 53 00:04:19,170 --> 00:04:22,810 Speaker 1: morning of January twenty eighth, when a well dressed man 54 00:04:23,130 --> 00:04:27,010 Speaker 1: burst into the condemned cell, Derek Bentley assumed that this 55 00:04:27,210 --> 00:04:32,050 Speaker 1: was legal counsel bringing word of a reprieve. Derek stood 56 00:04:32,090 --> 00:04:35,890 Speaker 1: to receive the good news. The two prison officers who 57 00:04:35,890 --> 00:04:42,650 Speaker 1: were his constant shadow, rose too. Then Derek noticed something 58 00:04:43,090 --> 00:04:50,490 Speaker 1: peculiar in the stranger's hands was a loop of yellow leather. Swiftly, 59 00:04:50,850 --> 00:04:54,330 Speaker 1: this was passed over Derek's wrists, finding them tightly behind 60 00:04:54,370 --> 00:04:57,850 Speaker 1: his back. The man in the suit was no lawyer. 61 00:04:59,210 --> 00:05:06,810 Speaker 1: This was Albert Pierpoint, England's chief hangman. If there was 62 00:05:06,850 --> 00:05:13,130 Speaker 1: to be a reprieve, it had better happen soon. I'm 63 00:05:13,210 --> 00:05:42,370 Speaker 1: Tim Harford and you're listening to another cautionary tale. Let's 64 00:05:42,410 --> 00:05:46,810 Speaker 1: go back three months to November the two, nineteen fifty two. 65 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:52,370 Speaker 1: It's Sunday evening and darkness has fallen on a cold 66 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:56,610 Speaker 1: and grizzly day. Wiser Britons would seek to be safe 67 00:05:56,650 --> 00:05:59,890 Speaker 1: beside a fire on such a night, but that wasn't 68 00:05:59,930 --> 00:06:04,050 Speaker 1: the sort of evening Derek Bentley had in mind. Instead, 69 00:06:04,530 --> 00:06:08,210 Speaker 1: he was out with his friend Christopher Craig, a sixteen 70 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:14,130 Speaker 1: year old whom Derek called Kid or Kiddo. By rights, 71 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:16,970 Speaker 1: Derek shouldn't have been hanging around with the younger boy 72 00:06:17,410 --> 00:06:20,490 Speaker 1: at his age. He should have been conscripted into the military, 73 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:24,570 Speaker 1: but the authorities took one look at Derek and decided 74 00:06:24,610 --> 00:06:31,730 Speaker 1: he was too mentally substandard to complete compulsory service. Despite 75 00:06:31,730 --> 00:06:35,090 Speaker 1: his size, Derek was always thought by his teachers to 76 00:06:35,130 --> 00:06:41,410 Speaker 1: be sheeplike and timid. When truancy and petty crime landed 77 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:45,290 Speaker 1: him in reform school, it was noted that his lack 78 00:06:45,330 --> 00:06:48,450 Speaker 1: of intelligence prevents him from joining in many of the 79 00:06:48,490 --> 00:06:51,850 Speaker 1: indoor games, and he is by no means a sportsman. 80 00:06:53,370 --> 00:06:57,610 Speaker 1: When tested, Derek's low IQ placed him in the bottom 81 00:06:57,890 --> 00:07:04,290 Speaker 1: one percent of the population. Today, someone like Derek would 82 00:07:04,330 --> 00:07:08,170 Speaker 1: be said to have special needs and would we'd hope 83 00:07:08,490 --> 00:07:12,810 Speaker 1: have those needs met. But the language used to describe 84 00:07:12,890 --> 00:07:18,130 Speaker 1: Derek back then was brutal and sympathy for him limited. 85 00:07:19,530 --> 00:07:22,890 Speaker 1: One expert pleaded that he be sent as far away 86 00:07:22,970 --> 00:07:29,890 Speaker 1: from home as possible to a school for subnormals. Derek, 87 00:07:30,330 --> 00:07:34,610 Speaker 1: who also suffered fits and seizures, fared little better in 88 00:07:34,690 --> 00:07:38,210 Speaker 1: the world of work. He took a job moving furniture, 89 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:42,450 Speaker 1: but his back gave out. A career as a garbage 90 00:07:42,450 --> 00:07:46,690 Speaker 1: collector was also brief. Within weeks, he was demoted to 91 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:54,450 Speaker 1: sweeping the streets and then fired Altogether mocked, rejected, and belittled, 92 00:07:54,970 --> 00:07:58,370 Speaker 1: The team then retreated to the security of the Bentley 93 00:07:58,490 --> 00:08:05,090 Speaker 1: family home. But on this dank November Sunday evening, Derek 94 00:08:05,210 --> 00:08:08,250 Speaker 1: ventured away from the warmth of the hearth to catch 95 00:08:08,290 --> 00:08:11,490 Speaker 1: a bus that would take him on a terrible misadventure. 96 00:08:13,690 --> 00:08:17,850 Speaker 1: His choice of companion was his first mistake of that evening. 97 00:08:18,610 --> 00:08:23,890 Speaker 1: Christopher Craig had ambitions to be a gangster. His older brother, Niven, 98 00:08:24,290 --> 00:08:28,010 Speaker 1: had just begun a twelve year prison sentence for a 99 00:08:28,050 --> 00:08:33,570 Speaker 1: shocking armed home invasion. Christopher had angrily watched his brother 100 00:08:33,650 --> 00:08:37,130 Speaker 1: be convicted and learned a lesson, But it was not 101 00:08:37,330 --> 00:08:42,250 Speaker 1: that crime doesn't pay. Instead, he decided that you shouldn't 102 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:44,250 Speaker 1: ever let yourself be caught. 103 00:08:46,770 --> 00:08:47,890 Speaker 3: Still seething with. 104 00:08:47,930 --> 00:08:52,850 Speaker 1: Resentment, Christopher hopped onto that southbound bus carrying a forty 105 00:08:52,890 --> 00:08:56,850 Speaker 1: five Revolver in his pocket, a relic of World War One. 106 00:08:57,370 --> 00:09:00,410 Speaker 1: The pistol's barrel had been shortened to make it easier 107 00:09:00,450 --> 00:09:05,210 Speaker 1: to conceal. Its power and accuracy were further reduced because 108 00:09:05,290 --> 00:09:09,290 Speaker 1: Christopher had struggled to find the right ammunition. All of 109 00:09:09,330 --> 00:09:14,490 Speaker 1: the cartridges were intended for a smaller gun. Still, the 110 00:09:14,530 --> 00:09:18,930 Speaker 1: weight of the firearm in his pocket, no doubt, pleased Christopher, 111 00:09:19,410 --> 00:09:22,730 Speaker 1: making him feel like the Hollywood gangster of his phantasies, 112 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:26,970 Speaker 1: and he'd need that swagger the job he had in mind. 113 00:09:28,570 --> 00:09:31,850 Speaker 1: The younger boy had dared Derek to join him breaking 114 00:09:31,890 --> 00:09:35,770 Speaker 1: into a local butcher's shop. Derek was already carrying a 115 00:09:35,810 --> 00:09:39,850 Speaker 1: small knife, but as their bus chugged towards their target, 116 00:09:40,410 --> 00:09:43,930 Speaker 1: Christopher gave his friend a fearsome knuckle duster too. 117 00:09:45,890 --> 00:09:47,170 Speaker 3: The robbery was a bust. 118 00:09:47,850 --> 00:09:51,370 Speaker 1: Somebody was in the butcher's shop, but Christopher spotted a 119 00:09:51,410 --> 00:09:58,170 Speaker 1: new opportunity the nearby warehouse of a candy company. Christopher 120 00:09:58,170 --> 00:10:01,490 Speaker 1: scaled its gate, hoping to break in via the roof. 121 00:10:02,130 --> 00:10:07,610 Speaker 1: Derek trailed behind. But they've been spotted. Constables from the 122 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:12,090 Speaker 1: nearby police station qui, we had them surrounded. Perhaps more 123 00:10:12,170 --> 00:10:17,090 Speaker 1: athletic than his colleagues, Detective Constable Fred Fairfax was the 124 00:10:17,130 --> 00:10:20,450 Speaker 1: first to climb the roof via a drain pipe in 125 00:10:20,530 --> 00:10:23,970 Speaker 1: the gloom, He saw the boys scurry into hiding and 126 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:25,450 Speaker 1: called on them to surrender. 127 00:10:26,130 --> 00:10:29,090 Speaker 3: If you want us fuck you welcome and get us, 128 00:10:29,650 --> 00:10:30,650 Speaker 3: replied Christopher. 129 00:10:31,730 --> 00:10:36,170 Speaker 1: Perhaps enraged by such impertinence, the constable rushed the burglars 130 00:10:36,250 --> 00:10:40,130 Speaker 1: and grabbed hold of Derek before the youth broke free. 131 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:46,370 Speaker 1: It's here that eyewitness accounts differ. Derek denied shouting anything. 132 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:51,010 Speaker 1: A version of events backed by Christopher, the other policeman 133 00:10:51,210 --> 00:10:54,810 Speaker 1: heard nothing or thought the shout came at a slightly 134 00:10:54,810 --> 00:10:59,890 Speaker 1: different moment, but Fairfax was certain as he tussled with 135 00:10:59,930 --> 00:11:06,730 Speaker 1: the hulking nineteen year old Derek yelled, let him have it, Chris. 136 00:11:07,690 --> 00:11:11,650 Speaker 1: But was Derek simply pleading for his partner in crime 137 00:11:11,930 --> 00:11:14,730 Speaker 1: to surrender the pistol he was now brandishing. 138 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:19,210 Speaker 3: Let him have it, Chris. Or was Derek. 139 00:11:19,210 --> 00:11:23,370 Speaker 1: Channeling his inner James Cagney and growling for his friend 140 00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:24,450 Speaker 1: to open fire. 141 00:11:25,650 --> 00:11:27,730 Speaker 3: Let him have it, Chris. 142 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:34,890 Speaker 1: Christopher's opening shot hit Fairfax, grazing his upper arm. Undaunted, 143 00:11:35,210 --> 00:11:38,290 Speaker 1: the officer grabbed Derek again and used the boy as 144 00:11:38,290 --> 00:11:42,690 Speaker 1: a shield while he ran for cover. As more officers 145 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:47,370 Speaker 1: closed in, Christopher continued his fusal hard. He also kept 146 00:11:47,450 --> 00:11:49,650 Speaker 1: up a barrage of taunts. 147 00:11:49,570 --> 00:11:51,010 Speaker 3: Come on, you brave propers. 148 00:11:51,450 --> 00:11:54,890 Speaker 1: Think of you what I am Craig, You just give 149 00:11:54,930 --> 00:11:58,570 Speaker 1: it my brother twelve years Come on, you proppers, I'm 150 00:11:58,650 --> 00:12:03,690 Speaker 1: only sixty. Two of these coppers had made it into 151 00:12:03,770 --> 00:12:06,450 Speaker 1: the warehouse and were taking the stairs. 152 00:12:06,170 --> 00:12:07,970 Speaker 3: Up to a door leading to the roof. 153 00:12:09,650 --> 00:12:13,690 Speaker 1: Police Constable Sydney Miles kicked it open and burst out 154 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:22,370 Speaker 1: into the night. A bullet struck him between the eyes, 155 00:12:23,450 --> 00:12:39,370 Speaker 1: killing him instantly. Cautionary tales returns in a moment. There 156 00:12:39,490 --> 00:12:44,770 Speaker 1: was widespread revulsion at the murder of Sydney Miles. This 157 00:12:45,570 --> 00:12:51,290 Speaker 1: is not England, said the vicar at Sydney's funeral, the. 158 00:12:51,290 --> 00:12:55,530 Speaker 3: England for which men and women have laid down their lives. 159 00:12:57,010 --> 00:13:00,850 Speaker 1: Sydney's coffin was topped by his police helmet and a 160 00:13:00,850 --> 00:13:05,130 Speaker 1: wreath from his wife. Officers from across the country were there. 161 00:13:05,890 --> 00:13:10,930 Speaker 1: Senior officials too, including the man ultimately responsible for law 162 00:13:10,970 --> 00:13:16,930 Speaker 1: and order, the Home Secretary, David Maxwell Fife. The shooting 163 00:13:17,010 --> 00:13:21,610 Speaker 1: on that warehouse roof unnerved the nation, partly because it 164 00:13:21,690 --> 00:13:25,730 Speaker 1: was so unusual the number of times a year guns 165 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:29,090 Speaker 1: were fired in London robberies. You could count them on 166 00:13:29,210 --> 00:13:33,410 Speaker 1: the fingers of one hand. And yes, the murder rate 167 00:13:33,690 --> 00:13:41,650 Speaker 1: was rising, but from its lowest point for centuries. After 168 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:46,650 Speaker 1: his initial attempt to flee, Derek Bentley had meekly stood 169 00:13:46,690 --> 00:13:52,930 Speaker 1: with the police, seemingly accepting his detention, but Christopher Craig 170 00:13:53,290 --> 00:13:58,610 Speaker 1: had continued to exchange shots with armed police until his 171 00:13:58,730 --> 00:14:00,370 Speaker 1: supply of ammunition exhausted. 172 00:14:01,010 --> 00:14:02,890 Speaker 3: It flung himself from the rooftop. 173 00:14:03,690 --> 00:14:08,130 Speaker 1: Though badly injured, he survived the fall, unrepentantly telling the 174 00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:09,370 Speaker 1: arresting officer. 175 00:14:10,730 --> 00:14:13,090 Speaker 3: I wish I killed a ducking enough. 176 00:14:15,970 --> 00:14:21,450 Speaker 1: Given such violence and such brazenness, its little wonder that 177 00:14:21,530 --> 00:14:25,050 Speaker 1: some people wanted to see an example made of these 178 00:14:25,210 --> 00:14:30,810 Speaker 1: teen criminals. The topic even came up when Sir Charles Hardy, 179 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:34,170 Speaker 1: one of the most famous businessmen of the day, lunched 180 00:14:34,290 --> 00:14:40,050 Speaker 1: with a certain Baron Goddard. The uncompromising Goddard, who basked 181 00:14:40,050 --> 00:14:44,570 Speaker 1: in the nickname the Tiger, told his dining companion that 182 00:14:44,690 --> 00:14:50,130 Speaker 1: Bentley and Craig had to be found guilty. 183 00:14:49,090 --> 00:14:50,570 Speaker 2: At all costs. 184 00:14:52,970 --> 00:14:57,450 Speaker 1: Such of you might not seem so remarkable given public anger. 185 00:14:57,450 --> 00:15:02,890 Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty two, only Goddard was the Lord Chief 186 00:15:03,170 --> 00:15:07,330 Speaker 1: Justice of England, the most senior judge in the land, 187 00:15:08,170 --> 00:15:16,290 Speaker 1: and h just appointed himself to oversee the trial. William 188 00:15:16,610 --> 00:15:21,050 Speaker 1: Edgar Reyner Goddard seems to have been a lifelong fan 189 00:15:21,410 --> 00:15:25,290 Speaker 1: of the hangman. As a pupil at one of England's 190 00:15:25,290 --> 00:15:30,210 Speaker 1: most exclusive private schools, he was said to recite word 191 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:32,570 Speaker 1: for word the death penalty. 192 00:15:33,450 --> 00:15:35,810 Speaker 2: The sentence of the court is that you be taken 193 00:15:35,850 --> 00:15:38,810 Speaker 2: from this place to a lawful prison, and thence to 194 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:40,130 Speaker 2: a place of execution. 195 00:15:41,490 --> 00:15:44,650 Speaker 1: It was said to be Goddard's party piece, preferred to 196 00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:48,130 Speaker 1: telling a joke or singing a song, and. 197 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:50,530 Speaker 2: That you may be hanged by the neck until you 198 00:15:50,770 --> 00:15:55,090 Speaker 2: be dead, and may the Lord have mercy on your soul. 199 00:15:56,450 --> 00:16:02,490 Speaker 1: As an adult, he remained an enthusiastic supporter of violent punishments, 200 00:16:02,690 --> 00:16:07,330 Speaker 1: meeting out whippings and beatings for lesser offenses and hangings 201 00:16:07,570 --> 00:16:13,770 Speaker 1: for more serious crimes. However, his elevation to the highest 202 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:17,130 Speaker 1: level of the judiciary came at a time that such 203 00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:22,210 Speaker 1: views were being challenged. Following World War II, an election 204 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:27,890 Speaker 1: swept the anti hanging Labor Party into power, and many 205 00:16:27,930 --> 00:16:31,330 Speaker 1: of the new socialist politicians taking their seats in the 206 00:16:31,330 --> 00:16:36,490 Speaker 1: House of Commons were young servicemen returning from war, sick 207 00:16:36,610 --> 00:16:43,170 Speaker 1: perhaps of violence. These elected politicians voted to end hanging 208 00:16:43,930 --> 00:16:47,650 Speaker 1: only for the unelected lords in the Upper Chamber, where 209 00:16:47,730 --> 00:16:55,370 Speaker 1: Baron Goddard sat, to overrule them. This sparked a constitutional crisis. 210 00:16:56,010 --> 00:17:00,970 Speaker 1: The lords weren't supposed to defy the Commons, but a 211 00:17:01,010 --> 00:17:06,370 Speaker 1: compromise was reached. A special commission would thoroughly review how 212 00:17:06,410 --> 00:17:08,130 Speaker 1: the death penalty was administered. 213 00:17:08,890 --> 00:17:10,010 Speaker 3: So thoroughly, in. 214 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:15,890 Speaker 1: Fact, that the report would take four whole years to complete, 215 00:17:16,170 --> 00:17:22,010 Speaker 1: so hanging was reprieved, much to Goddard's delight. He threatened 216 00:17:22,010 --> 00:17:25,850 Speaker 1: to resign as Lord Chief Justice whenever the repeal of 217 00:17:25,890 --> 00:17:29,890 Speaker 1: the death penalty looked imminent. But with the political tide 218 00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:34,610 Speaker 1: clearly shifting against execution, Goddard thought it was time for 219 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:40,410 Speaker 1: the justices beneath him to hand down death sentences whenever possible. 220 00:17:41,170 --> 00:17:49,170 Speaker 2: I advise all judges to harden their hearts. 221 00:17:50,410 --> 00:17:55,490 Speaker 1: The joint trial of Derrek Bentley and Christopher Craig took 222 00:17:55,530 --> 00:18:00,290 Speaker 1: place at the Central Criminal Court, London's famous Old Bailey. 223 00:18:01,330 --> 00:18:04,690 Speaker 1: The prosecution case against the sixteen year old Christopher was 224 00:18:04,770 --> 00:18:10,330 Speaker 1: clear he'd fired the fatal shot. Derek, it was argued, 225 00:18:10,810 --> 00:18:14,250 Speaker 1: was also a murderer because he had known Christopher was armed, 226 00:18:14,610 --> 00:18:20,690 Speaker 1: and furthermore, had verbally encouraged him to open fire. Derek 227 00:18:20,810 --> 00:18:23,730 Speaker 1: denied knowing anything about the pistol until it was drawn 228 00:18:23,810 --> 00:18:28,250 Speaker 1: on Detective Fairfax, but the jury was told this version 229 00:18:28,290 --> 00:18:31,770 Speaker 1: of events was almost inconceivable. 230 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:34,810 Speaker 2: I should think you would come to the conclusion that 231 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:38,370 Speaker 2: the first thing almost Craig would tell him if they 232 00:18:38,410 --> 00:18:42,490 Speaker 2: were going on a shop breaking expedition, was it's all right? 233 00:18:43,050 --> 00:18:44,650 Speaker 2: I got a revolver with me. 234 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:50,370 Speaker 1: This bold statement, not backed up by any evidence, was 235 00:18:50,410 --> 00:18:54,850 Speaker 1: made not by the prosecutor, no, but by the judge, 236 00:18:55,530 --> 00:19:00,530 Speaker 1: Tiger Goddard. From the outset the seventy five year old 237 00:19:00,690 --> 00:19:04,370 Speaker 1: in his red robes and ceremonial Wig seems to have 238 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:07,250 Speaker 1: made good on his pledge that the pair would be 239 00:19:07,330 --> 00:19:14,890 Speaker 1: found guilty at all costs. A judge's role at trial 240 00:19:15,090 --> 00:19:18,610 Speaker 1: is complex, but the bedrock of their duty is to 241 00:19:18,730 --> 00:19:23,170 Speaker 1: explain to jurors that the onus is on the prosecution 242 00:19:23,570 --> 00:19:29,170 Speaker 1: to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt. But at Derek 243 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:33,930 Speaker 1: Bentley's trial, Goddard didn't bother to explain what reasonable doubt meant. 244 00:19:34,530 --> 00:19:36,930 Speaker 1: He did mention that it was for the prosecution to 245 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:39,890 Speaker 1: make their case and not for the defendants to prove 246 00:19:39,930 --> 00:19:43,410 Speaker 1: their innocence, but he did so in a single sentence, 247 00:19:44,130 --> 00:19:47,770 Speaker 1: adding grumply that he considered that such a reminder. 248 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:49,330 Speaker 2: Was hardly necessary. 249 00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:54,210 Speaker 1: But don't be fooled into thinking Godard wasn't keen to 250 00:19:54,290 --> 00:19:57,490 Speaker 1: address the twelve men in the jury box. He was 251 00:19:58,570 --> 00:20:02,450 Speaker 1: with both defendants, denying that Derek had said let him 252 00:20:02,450 --> 00:20:06,530 Speaker 1: have it, Chris. The jury only had the slightly confused 253 00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:10,690 Speaker 1: testimony of the police witnesses to go on. Instead of 254 00:20:10,730 --> 00:20:14,690 Speaker 1: pointing out that police officers don't have some special status 255 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:19,530 Speaker 1: as accurate and reliable witnesses, Goddard drew a direct link 256 00:20:19,770 --> 00:20:23,210 Speaker 1: between the gallantry and resolution of the constables on the 257 00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:26,090 Speaker 1: rooftop that night and their evidence to the court. 258 00:20:27,010 --> 00:20:32,290 Speaker 2: They were conspicuously brave. Are you going to say they 259 00:20:32,330 --> 00:20:34,090 Speaker 2: are conspicuous liars? 260 00:20:35,770 --> 00:20:39,090 Speaker 1: That's quite something for a judge to tell a jury, 261 00:20:40,930 --> 00:20:44,690 Speaker 1: given public outrage about the murder of a police constable. 262 00:20:45,050 --> 00:20:48,850 Speaker 1: Goddard's other duty was to tamp down emotions in his 263 00:20:48,930 --> 00:20:53,290 Speaker 1: courtroom and encourage the jurors to weigh the facts as 264 00:20:53,370 --> 00:20:57,530 Speaker 1: presented and not let any personal prejudices or feelings of 265 00:20:57,570 --> 00:21:03,570 Speaker 1: disgust or anger cloud their decisions. But instead, Goddard indulged 266 00:21:03,610 --> 00:21:08,290 Speaker 1: in court room theatrics of the most stunning kind. At 267 00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:11,490 Speaker 1: one point, he asked for the weapons found on Derek 268 00:21:11,530 --> 00:21:14,330 Speaker 1: Bentley to be passed to him. 269 00:21:14,610 --> 00:21:19,570 Speaker 2: Where is that knuckle duster? Have you ever seen a 270 00:21:19,650 --> 00:21:25,210 Speaker 2: more horrible sort of weapon? You grasp it here, your 271 00:21:25,250 --> 00:21:29,530 Speaker 2: fingers go through. I cannot quite get mine through. And 272 00:21:29,610 --> 00:21:34,370 Speaker 2: you've got a dreadful heavy steel bar to strike anybody 273 00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:37,290 Speaker 2: with and you can kill a person with this, of course, 274 00:21:37,850 --> 00:21:40,170 Speaker 2: it is a shocking weapon. 275 00:21:42,130 --> 00:21:46,290 Speaker 1: Goddard then held aloft small knife taken from Bentley, which 276 00:21:46,330 --> 00:21:48,090 Speaker 1: he emotively referred to. 277 00:21:48,330 --> 00:21:49,130 Speaker 3: As a dagger. 278 00:21:50,050 --> 00:21:52,530 Speaker 2: What is he carrying that with him for? 279 00:21:53,530 --> 00:21:58,770 Speaker 1: Godard didn't answer his own question, perhaps because one plausible 280 00:21:58,810 --> 00:22:03,890 Speaker 1: response is that Derek Bentley had absolutely no plans to 281 00:22:04,050 --> 00:22:10,690 Speaker 1: use the weapons. Derek was being tried an accessory in 282 00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:14,970 Speaker 1: joint enterprise. It's clear that he was in a joint 283 00:22:15,090 --> 00:22:18,810 Speaker 1: enterprise with his younger friend to rob the warehouse. He 284 00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:22,410 Speaker 1: had scaled a gate and climbed atop the roof. Once 285 00:22:22,490 --> 00:22:26,370 Speaker 1: discovered by Detective Fairfax. Derek had tried to run away, 286 00:22:27,250 --> 00:22:31,890 Speaker 1: arguably in a joint enterprise, to evade arrest, but then 287 00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:37,010 Speaker 1: quickly gave up that effort. Was the joint enterprise now 288 00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:41,170 Speaker 1: at an end? Long before the murder of Constable Miles. 289 00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:45,530 Speaker 1: Though armed with a knife and knuckle duster, Derek made 290 00:22:45,570 --> 00:22:48,810 Speaker 1: no attempt to assault the policeman holding him, and as 291 00:22:48,890 --> 00:22:52,730 Speaker 1: Christopher Craig kept up his angry, foul mouth taunting of 292 00:22:52,770 --> 00:22:59,690 Speaker 1: the police, Derek stood meekly and quietly, occasionally expressing concern 293 00:22:59,770 --> 00:23:00,890 Speaker 1: for the officer's safety. 294 00:23:02,010 --> 00:23:05,530 Speaker 2: You want to look out, you'll blow your heads off. 295 00:23:06,850 --> 00:23:10,770 Speaker 1: When Fairfax left his prisoner's side for a moment, Derek 296 00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:14,810 Speaker 1: made no fresh attempt to bolt or rejoin his armed comrade. 297 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:19,170 Speaker 1: If indeed Derek had said let him have it, Chris, 298 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:22,690 Speaker 1: for those words to have earned him a guilty verdict, 299 00:23:23,130 --> 00:23:25,970 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered how they sounded to the teen gunman, 300 00:23:26,370 --> 00:23:30,410 Speaker 1: nor to the police, only that Derek had intended them 301 00:23:30,850 --> 00:23:35,570 Speaker 1: as an incitement to open fire. But Derek's demeanor during 302 00:23:35,610 --> 00:23:41,570 Speaker 1: his detainment was passive and acquiescent. The teen described as 303 00:23:41,890 --> 00:23:45,210 Speaker 1: timid and sheep like all his life and with no 304 00:23:45,370 --> 00:23:49,170 Speaker 1: history of violence, might easily have meant for Christopher Craig 305 00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:53,770 Speaker 1: to surrender his pistol and accept his lawful arrest. It's 306 00:23:53,970 --> 00:24:01,930 Speaker 1: certainly a possibility the jurors should have considered. Just before 307 00:24:02,050 --> 00:24:07,250 Speaker 1: the jury retired to consider their verdict, Godard, having praised 308 00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:11,290 Speaker 1: the prosecution case Fulseoen, mocked the defendant. 309 00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:15,730 Speaker 2: Bentley's defense is I didn't know he had a gun, 310 00:24:16,210 --> 00:24:19,610 Speaker 2: and I deny that I said let him have it, Chris. 311 00:24:20,450 --> 00:24:23,130 Speaker 2: I never knew he was going to shoot, and I 312 00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:24,210 Speaker 2: didn't think he would. 313 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:31,850 Speaker 1: The jurymen filed out to begin deliberations, ringing in their 314 00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:36,290 Speaker 1: ears an exhortation from the highest judge in the land 315 00:24:36,770 --> 00:24:43,730 Speaker 1: that they should use their common sense. They took just 316 00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:49,850 Speaker 1: seventy five minutes to find both defendants guilty. Christopher Craig 317 00:24:50,170 --> 00:24:54,010 Speaker 1: wouldn't hang, he was too young, and since there was 318 00:24:54,050 --> 00:24:57,930 Speaker 1: a precedent that if a killer didn't hang, an accomplice 319 00:24:57,970 --> 00:25:03,530 Speaker 1: wouldn't either, the jury asked that Derek's life be spared too. 320 00:25:03,970 --> 00:25:10,210 Speaker 1: Goddard ignored their plea and recited the death penalty memorized 321 00:25:10,290 --> 00:25:15,570 Speaker 1: at school. Derek would hang by the neck until. 322 00:25:15,330 --> 00:25:18,690 Speaker 3: Dead, and may the Lord have mercy on your soul. 323 00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:23,530 Speaker 1: The Lord Chief Justice had told his fellow judges that 324 00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:26,330 Speaker 1: it wasn't their job to show pity to the prisoners 325 00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:26,890 Speaker 1: in their dock. 326 00:25:27,850 --> 00:25:32,690 Speaker 2: For said Goddard, in other and higher hands, mercy may 327 00:25:32,730 --> 00:25:33,530 Speaker 2: be extended. 328 00:25:35,290 --> 00:25:39,490 Speaker 1: So the Lord Chief Justice, having passed a death sentence, 329 00:25:40,090 --> 00:25:43,450 Speaker 1: sat down to write a letter to a higher hand, 330 00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:50,130 Speaker 1: the Home Secretary, David Maxwell Fife, the only man who 331 00:25:50,130 --> 00:25:56,330 Speaker 1: could now save Derek from the hangman's noose. Cautionary tales 332 00:25:56,330 --> 00:26:10,050 Speaker 1: will be back after the break. In the early morning 333 00:26:10,250 --> 00:26:14,690 Speaker 1: January Gloom, a crowd stood at the gates of Wandsworth Prison, 334 00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:20,690 Speaker 1: wrapped up against the cold, they sang hymns and recited psalms. 335 00:26:22,210 --> 00:26:29,130 Speaker 1: There still seemed hope for Derek Bentley, even inside the 336 00:26:29,170 --> 00:26:34,130 Speaker 1: prison where he was making his final macabre preparations and calculations. 337 00:26:34,610 --> 00:26:40,010 Speaker 1: Hangman Albert Pierpoint wasn't sure his services would be required. 338 00:26:40,090 --> 00:26:43,850 Speaker 2: After all, the possibility of a last minute reprieve still 339 00:26:43,930 --> 00:26:46,450 Speaker 2: hung in the air stronger than I have ever known it. 340 00:26:48,970 --> 00:26:52,410 Speaker 1: At the very heart of government there was, in fact 341 00:26:52,810 --> 00:26:56,770 Speaker 1: a mood to show mercy. The most senior officials in 342 00:26:56,810 --> 00:27:01,730 Speaker 1: the Home Office advised David Maxwell Fife to intervene to 343 00:27:01,850 --> 00:27:06,530 Speaker 1: spare Derek's life, but the Home Secretary was taking his 344 00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:08,890 Speaker 1: advice from Barn. 345 00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:16,410 Speaker 2: I could find no mitigating circumstances in Bentley's case. I 346 00:27:16,450 --> 00:27:19,810 Speaker 2: am convinced that he is a most dangerous criminal. 347 00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:23,930 Speaker 1: In his own verdict on the case, which he called 348 00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:28,410 Speaker 1: a very bad murder, Maxwell five said it would be 349 00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:32,570 Speaker 1: dangerous to let Derek live, since that might encourage similar 350 00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:38,450 Speaker 1: attacks on unarmed police. Given public anxiety about violent crime, 351 00:27:39,250 --> 00:27:46,250 Speaker 1: he decreed that Derek must hang at eight point fifty 352 00:27:46,330 --> 00:27:50,250 Speaker 1: nine a m in the condemned cell peer Point was 353 00:27:50,290 --> 00:27:54,330 Speaker 1: now standing so close to Derek Bentley that he could 354 00:27:54,370 --> 00:27:56,370 Speaker 1: talk to the boy in a whisper. 355 00:27:58,290 --> 00:28:03,890 Speaker 3: Just follow me, lad, It's all right, Derek, Just follow me. 356 00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:12,010 Speaker 1: Peer Point had conducted hundreds of executions and found that 357 00:28:12,130 --> 00:28:17,290 Speaker 1: moving quietly and calmly but at speed encouraged compliance from 358 00:28:17,290 --> 00:28:22,210 Speaker 1: the condemned. He feared that if Derek resisted, the powerfully 359 00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:27,010 Speaker 1: built team could cause havoc. But sheep like to the end, 360 00:28:27,650 --> 00:28:33,570 Speaker 1: Derek meekly followed Pierpoint into the adjoining execution chamber. The 361 00:28:33,610 --> 00:28:39,650 Speaker 1: guards didn't even have to guide him. Derek helpfully stood 362 00:28:39,650 --> 00:28:43,530 Speaker 1: on chalk marks drawn on the wooden trap door as 363 00:28:43,610 --> 00:28:48,370 Speaker 1: Pierpoint gently placed first a white hood and then a 364 00:28:48,410 --> 00:28:53,450 Speaker 1: noose over the boy's head. The executioner stepped over to 365 00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:57,930 Speaker 1: a lever that opened the doors. Beneath Derek's feet, an 366 00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:02,730 Speaker 1: assistant was tying the boy's legs together. When he was done, 367 00:29:03,010 --> 00:29:15,770 Speaker 1: he gave Pierpoint the agreed signal. The crowd booed as 368 00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:20,410 Speaker 1: a prison official came out to post two notices. One 369 00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:27,930 Speaker 1: declared that Derek's execution had taken place before witnesses. The 370 00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:32,290 Speaker 1: other certified that a surgeon had examined the body and 371 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:37,810 Speaker 1: deemed life to be extinct. The two pieces of paper 372 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:43,410 Speaker 1: were pinned inside a glazed display case, which someone in 373 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:45,290 Speaker 1: the crowd promptly smashed. 374 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:48,010 Speaker 3: I've murdered an innocent boy. 375 00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:52,090 Speaker 1: Cried one protester, as others pelted prison officers and policemen 376 00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:52,690 Speaker 1: with coins. 377 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,850 Speaker 2: It's murder, it's ard up. 378 00:29:56,850 --> 00:30:08,410 Speaker 3: He's heard up. So. 379 00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:12,770 Speaker 1: Just eighty seven days after the shot that killed police 380 00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:19,970 Speaker 1: Constable Miles, Derek Bentley too was dead. The Bentley family, 381 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:25,610 Speaker 1: anything but meek or timid, fought on demanding a posthumous pardon. 382 00:30:26,890 --> 00:30:31,130 Speaker 1: When Derek's parents died, his sister Iris devoted herself to 383 00:30:31,170 --> 00:30:31,690 Speaker 1: the cause. 384 00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:34,970 Speaker 3: I'm not the sort of person who gives in. I'll 385 00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:36,570 Speaker 3: never never give up. 386 00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:40,090 Speaker 2: When I die, I want that piece of paper that 387 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:42,490 Speaker 2: pardon put with me in my coffin. 388 00:30:45,290 --> 00:30:51,050 Speaker 1: Iris was buried in nineteen ninety eight, but without Derek's pardon. 389 00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:56,450 Speaker 1: Beside her cruelly, a ruling by the Court of Appeal. 390 00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:57,650 Speaker 3: Was not far off. 391 00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:05,810 Speaker 1: Few people had previously had the courage to contradict Godard, 392 00:31:06,370 --> 00:31:09,530 Speaker 1: even after his death in nineteen seventy one, but the 393 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:13,610 Speaker 1: appeal judge was shocked by his handling of Derrek's case. 394 00:31:14,290 --> 00:31:17,450 Speaker 1: He concluded that the Lord Chief Justice had not only 395 00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:21,010 Speaker 1: denied Derrek a fair trial, but had done all he 396 00:31:21,090 --> 00:31:26,890 Speaker 1: could to push the jury to convict. Overturning that conviction, 397 00:31:27,410 --> 00:31:30,650 Speaker 1: the appeal judge said, it must be a matter of 398 00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:36,610 Speaker 1: profound and continuing regret that this mistrial occurred, and that 399 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:40,530 Speaker 1: the defects we have found were not recognized at the time. 400 00:31:42,170 --> 00:31:48,330 Speaker 1: Derek Bentley's remaining family rejoiced, and so did Christopher Craig, 401 00:31:49,610 --> 00:31:53,170 Speaker 1: the gunman on that awful night in nineteen fifty two, 402 00:31:53,890 --> 00:32:00,490 Speaker 1: served ten years in prison, and then rehabilitated, lived a quiet, 403 00:32:01,050 --> 00:32:03,250 Speaker 1: law abiding life. 404 00:32:03,490 --> 00:32:05,530 Speaker 3: Our day does not go by when I do not 405 00:32:05,650 --> 00:32:06,530 Speaker 3: think about. 406 00:32:06,290 --> 00:32:09,730 Speaker 1: Derek, said a now middle aged for Craig. 407 00:32:10,610 --> 00:32:14,970 Speaker 2: Everybody knew that if a policeman dies, somebody asked to 408 00:32:15,010 --> 00:32:15,570 Speaker 2: pay for it. 409 00:32:16,930 --> 00:32:22,130 Speaker 3: I couldn't. I was underage, and Derek Bentley fitted the bill. 410 00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:29,410 Speaker 1: So I had Goddard behaved so abominably and departed so 411 00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:33,090 Speaker 1: far from the norms of the courtroom to send hapless 412 00:32:33,130 --> 00:32:39,290 Speaker 1: Derek to his death. An obvious answer was that Goddard 413 00:32:39,330 --> 00:32:45,490 Speaker 1: wielded immense power whilst also possessing a bullish and bullying personality. 414 00:32:46,290 --> 00:32:49,810 Speaker 1: He never doubted his own judgment, nor did he tolerate 415 00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:56,290 Speaker 1: others questioning him. That is an awful combination. Others have 416 00:32:56,530 --> 00:33:04,050 Speaker 1: claimed that Goddard's obsession with violent physical punishments had a dark, perverse, 417 00:33:04,570 --> 00:33:09,930 Speaker 1: even sexual bent. Having teenage boys beaten or hanged gave 418 00:33:10,010 --> 00:33:15,970 Speaker 1: him pleasure. But one must consider a further motive. At 419 00:33:15,970 --> 00:33:21,810 Speaker 1: a time when abolition seemed close, Godard pushed so fervently, 420 00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:27,050 Speaker 1: so obscenely for Derek's death in a desperate bid to 421 00:33:27,210 --> 00:33:33,930 Speaker 1: save hanging if Lord Chief Justice Goddard and Home Secretary 422 00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:37,890 Speaker 1: David maxwell Fife had hoped the killing of the nineteen 423 00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:41,690 Speaker 1: year old would bolster the popularity of capital punishment and 424 00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:45,170 Speaker 1: stave off calls for its abolition, and they were wronged. 425 00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:51,210 Speaker 1: Nearly three thousand angry telegrams had arrived at maxwell Fife's office, 426 00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:55,930 Speaker 1: and the switchboard had been inundated with telephone calls. Many 427 00:33:56,250 --> 00:34:02,970 Speaker 1: ordinary people were clearly appalled by the hanging. Abolitionists noted 428 00:34:03,010 --> 00:34:07,410 Speaker 1: this public unease, and Derek's death was cited as a 429 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:11,250 Speaker 1: prime reason why punishment should now cease. 430 00:34:11,490 --> 00:34:16,690 Speaker 2: Altogether, I am certain that the execution of that youngster 431 00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:22,010 Speaker 2: was more like murder than anything Derek Bentley did himself. 432 00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:24,770 Speaker 1: Said one campaigning politician, It. 433 00:34:24,810 --> 00:34:27,690 Speaker 2: Is absolutely indefensible. 434 00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:35,250 Speaker 1: In the wake of Derek's death, and reacting to public anger, 435 00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:39,930 Speaker 1: the government changed how the death penalty was imposed, but 436 00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:44,130 Speaker 1: these reforms failed to appeal to the common sense of 437 00:34:44,370 --> 00:34:49,330 Speaker 1: ordinary citizens. A burglar who beat a homeowner to death 438 00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:53,970 Speaker 1: would hang. A rapist who murdered his victim would not 439 00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:58,770 Speaker 1: face the death penalty. If someone poisoned you, they'd due time, 440 00:34:59,410 --> 00:35:00,410 Speaker 1: but if they shot. 441 00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:01,650 Speaker 3: You, they'd be executed. 442 00:35:02,770 --> 00:35:06,810 Speaker 1: Killing a prison guard triggered the death penalty, but murdering 443 00:35:06,810 --> 00:35:13,450 Speaker 1: a child did not. Death sentences were passed on fewer 444 00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:17,850 Speaker 1: and fewer occasions, and it became harder and harder to 445 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:23,250 Speaker 1: argue that hanging was in any way a deterrent to criminals. 446 00:35:24,810 --> 00:35:29,090 Speaker 1: In August nineteen sixty four, a couple of petty criminals 447 00:35:29,130 --> 00:35:33,330 Speaker 1: who'd stabbed a man during an attempted robbery were hanged 448 00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:38,970 Speaker 1: on the same day. In other grislier cases, killer's lives 449 00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:43,170 Speaker 1: had been spared, so many people were surprised that these 450 00:35:43,210 --> 00:35:46,650 Speaker 1: two hangings had been allowed to go ahead. They would 451 00:35:46,650 --> 00:35:52,690 Speaker 1: turn out to be the last. Goddard was by then 452 00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:57,650 Speaker 1: in retirement, but even on his very last day in court, 453 00:35:58,010 --> 00:36:03,570 Speaker 1: he had been sending business the Hangman's way. Albert Pierpoint 454 00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:08,130 Speaker 1: had also retired. Before the abolition of his trade. Hid 455 00:36:08,210 --> 00:36:13,490 Speaker 1: long combined stretching necks with pulling points, but now committed 456 00:36:13,570 --> 00:36:16,530 Speaker 1: himself full time to running a pub. 457 00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:18,850 Speaker 3: And tending bar. 458 00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:22,890 Speaker 1: Gave him time to reflect on his previous occupation. 459 00:36:24,370 --> 00:36:27,890 Speaker 2: If death were a deterrant, I might be expected to know. 460 00:36:28,330 --> 00:36:29,730 Speaker 3: He wrote in his memoirs. 461 00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,450 Speaker 2: I do not now believe that any one of the 462 00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:37,490 Speaker 2: hundreds of executions I carried out has in any way 463 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:43,970 Speaker 2: acted as a deterrant against future murder. Capital punishment, in 464 00:36:44,050 --> 00:36:55,810 Speaker 2: my view, achieved nothing except revenge. 465 00:36:59,890 --> 00:37:02,450 Speaker 1: For a full list of our sources, see the show 466 00:37:02,490 --> 00:37:09,210 Speaker 1: notes at Timharford dot com. Cautionary Tales is written by 467 00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:13,130 Speaker 1: me Tim Harford with Andrew Wright, Alice Fines, and Ryan Dilly. 468 00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:18,050 Speaker 1: It's produced by Georgia Mills and Marilyn Rust. 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