1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Britney Spears does it again 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: in the last hours, a wine bar fiasco. This on 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: the heels of dangerous driving after drinks. I'm not buying it. 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: All I have to do is look into her eyes 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: and you know that she is unwhelmed. She's clearly crying 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: out for help. Something needs to be done before she 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: gets herd If you don't have some stockguards, what will 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: she do next? 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: We all recall in the last week Britney Spears at 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the bar of a Mexican restaurant. I believe it was 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: drinking what appeared to be out of a champagne flute. 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: There she is now Minnie, oh, there you go a 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: toe no though, that's a regular glass. A toast to 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: the entire group, and then she is led out with 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: some very saggy shorts. Out she goes and gets into 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: a car. We also have a video of her with 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: the same champagne flue that she had the same type 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: at the wine bar. But let's follow through. There she 21 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: goes and she's going to a vehicle. I'm fine, I'm 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: not the church later, lady, drink whatever you want, but 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: when you get into a car, you're in trouble. You 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: are in trouble. There is Britt getting into a car 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: after drinking an unnamed liquid at a bar and making 26 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: a toast with it. And look at this. Somebody actually 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: takes her knowingly to the car and pours her into 28 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the driver's seat and bye bye, go ahead, hit the highway. 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Now this isn't even the scary part. They know she's 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: been drinking ostensibly. And oh lane weave number one. Notice 31 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: the paparazzi following her. Do they call nine one one? 32 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Do they try to help her? No, because they want 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: the money they're gonna get from this video. You know, 34 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: she's had a long history of people taking advantage of her, 35 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: taking photos of her when she's at her worst. We 36 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: all remember her when she had shaved her head and 37 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: was lashing out of the paparazzi with an umbrella. Do 38 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: you blame her sitting on the sidewalk with a ripped 39 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: hose crying my scary running down her face? Oh lane 40 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: weave number two. People use her lane weave number three 41 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: that I know of. They use her and make money 42 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: off of videos just like this, but it out now, 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: that is the most significant one. Stay with it. Stay 44 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: with it, and I'll show you why that's the most 45 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: disturbing one, because right around the curve we see oncoming traffic. 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Four more seconds and that could have been a head 47 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: on collision and we would be talking about an entire 48 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: lane weave number five, an entirely different story tonight. Okay, 49 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: that was last week. To Sam croupin joining List, investigative journalist, 50 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: host of daily show Sampson's World on YouTube and you 51 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: can find him at Secret Service, Sam, I don't know 52 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: what that means. But to Britney, Sam, second verse, same 53 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: as the first, We're gonna have to go to our shrink. 54 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Regarding a pattern. In the last hours, Britney Spears washes 55 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: up at a wine bar and much the same thing 56 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: happens in the video. You see Britney Spears walking out 57 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: with apparently a restaurant employee who takes her to the 58 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: car and she's got in her hand another champagne flute 59 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: full of amber liquid and her face is really puffed up. 60 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but they poured her 61 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: into a car and off she goes. This video from 62 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: our friends at Daily mil Okay, Sam croupin what happened? 63 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: I mean, Nancy, Look, we don't she wasn't pulled over 64 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: by police. We have no proof what was inside that glass. 65 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: We have no proof that she was drinking and driving 66 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: at all. But you can see the video as she leaves, 67 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: she's let out. Somebody who's not intoxicated does not need 68 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: somebody to lead them out of a restaurant. And then, 69 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: as you said, I loved your pun Nancy poured her 70 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: into the front seat to drive. And look, we still 71 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: know nothing. But then after watching this video and you see, Nancy, 72 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: and you made the point, she goes over into the 73 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: other lane, she crossed over the double lanes, and you see, 74 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: like you said, life works like that that four seconds later, 75 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: had she stayed in her car for four seconds to 76 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: just look down at the radio or something? That was 77 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: a head on collision? And we really need to help 78 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: Brittany because nobody's looking out after Like you said, the 79 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: paparazzi just films this. Why not call the police? This 80 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: is in my mind, this is allegedly clear drinking and driving. 81 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean that is her lane discipline is awful. 82 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it, lane discipline fresh 83 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: concern after Britney Spears spotted with a full champagne flute 84 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: coming out of a wine bar in the La Suburbs, 85 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: much like last time before she climbs behind the wheel 86 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: of her car gets poured in. Now her team insisting 87 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: she was not drinking alcohol? Then what was that apple juice? 88 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: This video from our friends at Daily Mail. Also in 89 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: the footage on this most recent footage, her face is 90 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: alarmingly puffy and blown up like it's been in flame. 91 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Joining me, Doctor Priyabenergy forensic pathologists and atomic pathologist at 92 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: Anchor Forensic Pathology consulting, Doctor Prier, you have handled so 93 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: many different variations of what we're seeing to what do 94 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: you attribute this. 95 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into the driving impairment that 96 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: we can see, but we know she's at a wine 97 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: bar drinking, and really what happens. I mean, she's quite 98 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: thin normally and to see her face bloated, that's what 99 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 4: alcohol does to you. I don't know what she's had, 100 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: if she's had anything to eat with it, but sometimes 101 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: there can be salt, sugar, right mixers. Whatever it is 102 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: really affecting her. Alcohol really is a toxin to the body. 103 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: It dehydrates you. You might be taking an extra salt. 104 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: The body's going to retain water in an effort to 105 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: try to balance itself. So she is obviously very disturbed 106 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: and is basically a mess. 107 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: Doctor pret energy. That doesn't sound like much of a 108 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: medical opinion. She's a mess. Are you actually suggesting her 109 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: face is blown up like a basketball because of salt intake? 110 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: It could be salt, alcohol dehydration. It's just the imbalance 111 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: from the alcohol and the excess drinking. And you know, 112 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: we know she's been erratic. 113 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: For a while now, and. 114 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: Alcohol causes huge disturbances. We know she's probably dehydrated, electrolyte 115 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: issues and is she even eating enough to balance the alcohol, 116 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: so her body's all disregulated. 117 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Okay, this is what I don't understand, Maria. How does 118 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: drinking too much blow up your face? Because I've never 119 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: heard of that. Well, how does that work? Why does 120 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: that happen? 121 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: Like an alcohol face au like retain water? You're dehydrated, 122 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: Your skin's growth like it just starts. Your body tries 123 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: to regulate itself. It's dehydrated, so then it's going to 124 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: pull water. Any water that you can have and then 125 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: I don't know what she's drinking, but you could have 126 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: salty drink, sugary drinks. 127 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: All of that's going to cause bloating. 128 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: In the law, this is called a similar transaction and 129 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: regular talk. When you don't know a horse, look at 130 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: her track record. If you don't know what she is doing, 131 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: if you don't know what she's going to do, look 132 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: at what she has already done. 133 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 6: Leaving the restaurant, Britney struggles maintaining her balance as a 134 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 6: friend holds her hand guiding her outside. Brittany gets behind 135 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 6: the wheel of her black BMW despite protests from restaurant 136 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 6: employees trying to prevent her from driving. 137 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 7: Driving erradically, ignoring road signs, squealing her tires as she 138 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 7: makes a U turn against the posted no U turn sign. 139 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 7: Britney speeds away from the restaurant. She has trouble maintaining 140 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 7: her lane, swerving onto the shoulder and crossing the center 141 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 7: line into oncoming traffic. 142 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Instead of owning it. Britney Spears blames the evil, awful ganger. 143 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 7: Britney Spears takes to Instagram to say if anyone is wondering, 144 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 7: they'll lookalike. Was not me? Many people on social media 145 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,239 Speaker 7: have pointed out some oddities about the video in the restaurant, 146 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 7: that the person was similar looking, but the video was 147 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 7: blurry at times. The manager of the red Os says 148 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 7: Brittany was not intoxicated, did not order any alcohol with her. Kisadiya, 149 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 7: a fan, bought her a glass of wine. Oliver Wynn 150 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 7: says Brittany was chatting with her friend and fans and 151 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 7: took pictures. The manager says he was impressed by how 152 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 7: nice she was to everyone. 153 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: Joining us is renowned psychoanalysts out of the Beverly Hills jurisdiction, 154 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. She's the author of deal Breakers. You 155 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: can see her now on Peacock and find her at 156 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany, don't people know 157 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: they are enabling when they buy Brittany a glass of wine? 158 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 8: Nancy, of course they know, because we all know she's 159 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 8: been to drug rehab. We all know that she was 160 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 8: hostile vitalized at Cedars, so the public should know. It 161 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 8: takes a lot of bravery to stand up to somebody, 162 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 8: especially a celebrity, when they're about to get into a car, 163 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 8: but you're not just saving Brittany, but you're saving potential 164 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 8: people that she could hit on the way home. You know, Nancy, 165 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 8: what I'm seeing here is an ingrained pattern that keeps 166 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 8: repeating itself. So there's a saying in my field neurons 167 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 8: that fire together wire together, Meaning if you do something 168 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 8: enough times and you combine alcohol with it, you will 169 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 8: keep doing that exact same thing. She could have an 170 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 8: interlocking device on her steering wheel and then she would 171 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 8: not be able to drive unless she blew into it 172 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 8: and could prove to the to the mechanism that she 173 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 8: wasn't drinking, and that could force her to use ubers 174 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 8: or to get a driver. I think that would be 175 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 8: a best option at this point. 176 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: You know another thing, Doctor Bethany Marshall. In both cases 177 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: we see someone walking her to the car and pouring 178 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: her into the driver's seat. Both cases, they know she 179 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: apparently has been drinking alcohol. They know about all of 180 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: her issues. Who doesn't. You can't go along without hearing 181 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: some crazy Zany conspiracy theory about Britney Spears. They know 182 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: all of this, yet they're walking her ount and putting 183 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: her into the car. 184 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 8: But Nancy, the people who stood up to her might 185 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 8: have all fallen by the wayside, meaning she has selected 186 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 8: out friendships and a team who look the other way 187 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 8: when she drinks, probably for some personal gain. So let's 188 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 8: say she has a friend who says, you know, you 189 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 8: can't come over if you're drinking, or let's go to rehab, 190 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 8: or they stage an intervention. She's just going to get 191 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 8: rid of those people. Ask anybody who's listening to the 192 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 8: show who has a friend who's an alcoholic will know 193 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 8: once you stand up to them, sometimes they just will 194 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 8: never talk to you again. So we're seeing people who 195 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 8: are benefiting, benefiting in some other way from their friendship 196 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 8: with Britney. 197 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: Earlier, we heard Sam Krupin, host of Sampson's World, on 198 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: YouTube describing the issue surrounding proving this was an alcoholic 199 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: beverage to Kathy Griffin joining US private investigator owner of 200 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: Kate Griff Investigations, by the way, the largest female owned 201 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: investigative agency in Texas. Kathy, you have to go through 202 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: a lot of hoops to prove duy. But here, in 203 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: very disturbing footage and photos, Spears looks disheveled, her hair 204 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: is crazy, her face really puffy. All signs that she's 205 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: not taking care of herself and is drinking again. What 206 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: do you have to do to actually prove a duy 207 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: in court? 208 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 9: Kathy, Well, first of all, you have to have somebody 209 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 9: you know, counting drinks with actually seeing them drink the 210 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 9: alcohol number one and number two, you know, getting into 211 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 9: the car and actually driving themselves. And my question to 212 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 9: begin with is why is Brittany driving? To begin with, 213 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 9: She's got lots of people that can help her or 214 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 9: should be helping her, and she's not. I think that, 215 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 9: you know, she's out of control at this point, and 216 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 9: I think she she needs people to help her. We 217 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 9: get hired from parents to do this for other parents 218 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 9: that are with children that are trying to get a 219 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 9: conservativeship over their children that are drinking and driving and 220 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 9: doing drugs and so so we are familiar with this 221 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 9: kind of behavior and we document all of this and 222 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 9: it's and it's scary that she is allowing this to 223 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 9: even happen to her. 224 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Sway, you've actually been an adult babysitter to keep people 225 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: from drinking and doing drugs before. 226 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 9: Pretty much yes, or to at least at least gather 227 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 9: the evidence to see if they're doing that. 228 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Yes, interesting, Ashley Crispin joining us a high profile lawyer. 229 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Ashley question, when you prove a duy in court? The 230 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: Criminal Code the statute is very specific. You cannot prove 231 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: a case by saying I saw her having a drink 232 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: at a bar. You don't know what she's drinking. For 233 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: all I know, that could be sparkling apple juice that 234 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: happens to be in a champagne flute that she happens 235 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: to use to toast everyone as if it were alcohol. 236 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: We have a fan buying her wine at the bar 237 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: and giving it to her and watching her drink it. 238 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: We don't know if that's her first drink, fifth, her 239 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: fifteenth for that night. And we don't know what blood 240 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: alcohol she's got, what the level is. Is she appoints 241 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: zero seven, which is under the legal limit, or appoints 242 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: zero eight or a two. You have to have a 243 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: blood alcohol test, a credible blood alcohol test, such as 244 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: one taken at the scene by a breathalyzer. It has 245 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: to be handled a certain way, It has to be 246 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: analyzed a certain way, just like every scientific evidence ever 247 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: introduced into trial. I mean, think about it. Think about 248 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: Brian Coburger. Remember his DNA found on the snap of 249 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: the hilt of the murder knife that was taken from 250 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: the crime scene. It was taken from the crime scene 251 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: in a particular type of receptacle bag taken to the 252 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: crime lab. Whoever carried it had to write on the 253 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: outside of the envelope and seal the envelope that they 254 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: promise no one is tampered with it. When they get 255 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: to the crime lab, it's handed over, a person receives 256 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: it and signs for it. It's then given to the scientist. 257 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: The scientist signs for it and then opens the bag 258 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and does the tests. It's a very strict chain of custody. 259 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Same thing with DUIs. You can't prove it du Why 260 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: on an anecdote, Oh yeah, I think I saw her drinking. 261 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't work, Ashley. 262 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 5: I hear you, Nancy. But in every case, we don't 263 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 5: always have the physical evidence that we'd want civil or 264 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: criminal cases. In criminal cases a higher standard. In civil 265 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 5: cases we have a lower standard. But we have circumstantial evidence. 266 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: That's what we rely on in many cases, and in 267 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 5: this case in order to prove a DUI for Britney Spears, 268 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 5: where we don't have a blood alcohol level what's going 269 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 5: to have to happen is the interviewing of all of 270 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 5: the personnel that works at the bar club that she 271 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 5: was at. You have the interview of the fan who 272 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 5: bought the drink and watched the drink. I actually saw 273 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 5: in the background of that video. It looked like it 274 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: was like a busser or some kind of personnel there. 275 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 5: The look on his face right there is like, what 276 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 5: is happening? This is crazy. So you certainly have other 277 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 5: people in this restaurant that can help you prove your case. 278 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 5: You always want that evidence. You always want that physical evidence. 279 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 5: But if you don't have it, you're not sunk. 280 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 8: You just have to try harder. 281 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: And that video is damning with her driving. I mean 282 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: to me, I'd open up in any opening with that 283 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 5: video right going over the double lines is where I'd start, 284 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 5: and then I'd walk. 285 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: Myself joining us right now. The so called King of 286 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: DUI's Raymond Judice, veteran trial lawyer out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Now, 287 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: why is he the King of d UI's Because once 288 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: upon a time he was the lead prosecutor of DUI's 289 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: and an Atlanta metropolitan area, a Decab County he used 290 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: that experience prosecuting dangerous DUI's and suddenly started defending them. 291 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: Ray Judice, thank you for being with us. We have 292 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: a lot of anecdotal evidence that Britney Spears is drinking 293 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: alcohol again and then getting poured into a car by 294 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: none other than a restaurant bar employee, and she cranks 295 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: up and drives off. There's a video of her veering 296 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: all over the road that would never stand up in court. 297 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: Ray Jiudicay, the defense would slash that to ribbons without 298 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: a blood alcohol test. 299 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 10: Explain well, I agree, Nancy, that may be a disha 300 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 10: or enough probably cause to stop the car or pull 301 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 10: the car over. But the absolute gold standard, the highest 302 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 10: and best evidence you remember from law school as a prosecutor, 303 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 10: is a blood test drawn in Georgia within three hours 304 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 10: from the time of arrest by a certified for of 305 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 10: bottomist and that can be found at the fire department 306 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 10: at EMTs, the hospital emergency room that then goes to 307 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 10: the GBI crime lab. And as a prosecutor, you take 308 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 10: that blood test and you put a prosecution exhibit sticker 309 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 10: on it, and you put it up on a big 310 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 10: board and it says er point one point seven or whatever. 311 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: Over the sticker, and the sticker, I rab a boat 312 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: on it, put it on a silver platter, and put 313 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: it on top of the Christmas tree. That's what I 314 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: would do with that blood alcohol. And what happens at 315 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: trial if I, the prosecutor, try to prove a DUI 316 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: driving under the influence, and all I've got is a 317 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: fan going, yeah, I bought her glass of wine for 318 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: all on me. She peeked it up in the bathroom. 319 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: I can't prove anything about that blood alcohol. 320 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 10: It might even be a directed verdict of acquittal, might 321 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 10: not even get to a jury. You've got to have 322 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 10: a test. You can charge, you can arrest, but it's 323 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 10: hard to convict without a gold standard. 324 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: Blood test, and typically across the country the legal leminace 325 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: point zero eight. Let me ask you what don't reveal 326 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: a name, which I know you wouldn't, but what's the 327 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: worst blood alcohol number you've ever had, either prosecuting it 328 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: or defending it? 329 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 10: Oh, Nancy. When I was a prosecutor back in the eighties, 330 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 10: we would get blood tests from Grady Memorial Hospital and 331 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 10: we used to have what we call the four hundred 332 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 10: club point four five times at the legal blood alcohol level. 333 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 10: But those were chronics that was not a first time 334 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 10: drinker or three glasses of wine. Usually those folks were 335 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 10: usually older men and they had a long history of serious, 336 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 10: hard drinking. In fact, surprise, many of those fellas looked 337 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 10: pretty good on the videotape because they've been drinking all 338 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 10: their life. But the blood was drunk. Okay, the blood 339 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 10: didn't lie, and we would still get convictions of no 340 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 10: matter how good they looked on the walk and turn 341 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 10: of the leg lift, the blood was over the legal limit. 342 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 11: And it's just hard. 343 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 10: That's just hard for a jury to ignore. Jurors are 344 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 10: used to blood tests. Blood test tells you who you chosen, 345 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 10: are tells you whether your eyes are green or blue. 346 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 10: It tells you you know whether you've got a disease. 347 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 10: People are used to blood tests. The science is good, 348 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 10: and when that lab technician comes in with their masters 349 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 10: in biology from Georgia Tech and explains how the blood 350 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 10: is tested, the jury is just wrapped around your finger 351 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 10: as a prosecutor. So that, like I said, I call 352 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 10: that the gold. 353 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Standard crime stories with Nancy Gray, Now you're talking about 354 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: all those old guys that have been drinking whole lives. 355 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: You know what I call that an h the habitual violator. Now, 356 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of these cases end up just with somebody 357 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: landing overnight in the can because of a drinkie. But 358 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: when you have a head on collision ray Judica, it 359 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: ain't so funny anymore, is it. 360 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 10: Well, No, of course, and that can be an elevated 361 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 10: selling charge if the other party is injured, called a 362 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 10: serious bodily injury by vehicle or in tragic situations ba 363 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 10: ulah homicide. So sure. Look, when I started prosecuting these 364 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 10: cases in June of nineteen eighty five, the blood alcohol 365 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 10: limit in Georgia permissible was point one two. Okay, that 366 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 10: was a drunk driving. Mother's Against Drunk Driving has done 367 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 10: a fantastic job working with law enforcement and state legislators. 368 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 10: The level then one two point one zero, then point eight, 369 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 10: and in certain circumstances, if it's combined with prescription medication 370 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 10: like an antidepressant or muscle relaxers or any kind of opioid, 371 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 10: a blood alcohol level less than point oh eight, let's 372 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 10: say a point oh five point oh six can be 373 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 10: used to prosecute under Georgia law under what's called an 374 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 10: alcohol plus prescription medication or they were smoking. And all 375 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 10: these young folks think THCHC is like drinking a glass 376 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 10: of milk. Well, here in Georgia you can be under 377 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 10: the influence of THCHC. That's marijuana plus some alcohol and 378 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 10: that'll get you a dui every day of the week. 379 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 7: Seeing the video from the restaurant and driving, family members 380 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 7: are shocked, concerned. They need to step in before the 381 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 7: downward spiral leads to another breakdown, similar to what happened 382 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 7: when she shaved her head, lost custody of her boys, 383 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 7: and ended up hospitalized. That event in two thousand and 384 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 7: seven ended with Brittany in a conservative ship managed by 385 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 7: her father for thirteen years. 386 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: She's clearly in a very very unstable place. She's stancing 387 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: around naked with knives with a bunch of duck hoop in. 388 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 11: The Maybe she had been pushed as far as she 389 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 11: could take them. 390 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: No wonder everybody's worried sick about Britney Spears. Okay, apparently 391 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: in the last days Britney Spears. And this is just 392 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: prior to the wine bar fiasco and just after the 393 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: weaving amongst the lanes while apparently drinking. Britney seeks out 394 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: professional advice from the Kardashians. Oh, we're just chilling in 395 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: our geriatric bed. 396 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 8: Because this dead vibrates. 397 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: What the what the. 398 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 4: Baby dude won't three three three four. 399 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: Six split split. 400 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: The Kardashian children appslutely adorable, But can we get to 401 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: the point. Dr Bethony Marshall, renounced psycho analyst. Do I 402 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: have this right that Britney Spears is getting love advice, 403 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: advice about finding the right guy from the Kardashians. And 404 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: let me be clear, I know the Kardashians. People trash 405 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: them all the time. I think out of jealousy. This 406 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: is how I know them because Rob Kardashian, Robert Kardashian 407 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: the Sun competed with me on Dancing with the Stars, 408 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: and he was a great dancer. And can I tell 409 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: you they would come by all the time to watch 410 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: him practice, and they could not have been more polite 411 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: and nicer people. I mean, they were wonderful and very 412 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: supportive of him. So that's my experience with them, so 413 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: I don't really appreciate all the trashing. However, the Kardashian 414 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: women have had a long line of parasitic boyfriends and husbands, right, 415 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: they're horrible. These guys they attract. Why and they're telling 416 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: Brittany who to date? I mean, Bethany, do I have 417 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: to say Kanye, Kanye, I think you'll remember this, won't you? Bethany. 418 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 12: Look, I spent like all the money for the commercial. 419 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: On these new teeth. 420 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: Once again, I had to shoot it on the iPhone. 421 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 10: Go to easy dot com. 422 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 8: Make it stop. 423 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. And how we 424 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: spent like one hundred thousand dollars on those teeth. They're horrible. 425 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: That's from easy Online. Kim Kardashian, the Queen of reality, 426 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: the multi gibilty billionaire. Her she married him? Why? Why? 427 00:25:59,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 12: She? 428 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: He does have something to show for it, the awesome children, 429 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: but Kanye, and she's giving Britain and help me. 430 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 8: Well, it's not just that he is allegedly mentally unstable. 431 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 8: With this video you just paid. He probably spent almost 432 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 8: his entire paycheck from that Super Bowl appearance just on 433 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 8: new teeth. His team can't even take away his iPhone. 434 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 8: So this is not just poor relationships. This is relationships 435 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 8: with people who are quite unstable and parasitic. Nancy parasites 436 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 8: and what I mean by that, they choke, they put 437 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 8: a stranglehold on the host. 438 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 439 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 8: Financial abuse is a form of intimate partner violence. I 440 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 8: don't know if you know that. It's a chronic part 441 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 8: of relationship domestic violence, and we can see it in 442 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 8: a lot of these relationships where these men just suck 443 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 8: off the Kardashians. Britney Spears has had that same experience, 444 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 8: and so it's sort of scary. 445 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: Who's do you remember ray j a right? Di? Does 446 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: he take the sex tape video of him? Did? And Kim? 447 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: What wasn't that the guy on? Okay? Yeah? I mean 448 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: really what their ticks sucking the blood out of these 449 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: beautiful women. I don't get it. 450 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 8: And you know it's interesting, Nancy, but parasitic lifestyle like 451 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 8: men who are parasites with women. They're entitled. They want 452 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 8: to get something without giving something in return. This is 453 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 8: a sign of narcissism and antisocial personality disorder because entitlement 454 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 8: is the expectation of reward without achievement. I'm just going 455 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 8: to marry you and I'm going to take your money, 456 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 8: but I'm not going to do much to make. 457 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: Your life better. 458 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 8: All the benefits flow towards me. The parasite. The benefits 459 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 8: are not supposed to flow towards you, and I do 460 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 8: think they attract these kinds of men is really unfortunate, 461 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 8: and that what's there in it? They can't see what 462 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 8: they're in. 463 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. Forget about Kanye drooling in his 464 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: video and RAYJ selling the sex tape or making a 465 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: sex tape. What about lamar Odem He had Chloe, he 466 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: was married to Chloe. Then he ends up in a 467 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: brothel and not only does he go to a house 468 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: of prostitution, he gets caught. Then there's the drugs, there's 469 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: the alcohol. Can they find a guy that actually helps them? 470 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: Help me out? Listen to this list? Dr Bethany, ray J, 471 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: lamar Odom, Chiston, Thompson, David Chloe. They have two children together. 472 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: Where is he? Is he paying child support? I doubt it? 473 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: French Montana, I don't think you did anything wrong. You've 474 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: got disic. Oh my stars put up disc Has Scott 475 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Dissick ever earned money on his own Rsi's still riding 476 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Courtney's coattails. He was even referred to in the reality 477 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: show as Lord Dissick. I guess because of his penchant 478 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: for expensive designer stuff. I mean, he's like chitching sucking 479 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: them dry, sucking the Kardashians dry, and they're giving Britney 480 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: love advice. 481 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 8: Hey, Nancy, you know I once treated Courtney Kardashian as 482 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: the part of the show. She came to my Beverly 483 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 8: Hills office, and the stories she told I can talk 484 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 8: about this because its been aired on TV. But the 485 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 8: stories she told me about Scott that at one point 486 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 8: they were driving through an intersection and Chris was behind 487 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 8: the wheel. They slowed the car. He was so upset 488 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 8: about something he jumped out of the passenger door while 489 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 8: the car was still going. It did like the triple 490 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 8: quadruple roll and then run down the block and she 491 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 8: still could not separate from him. She also told me 492 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 8: that whenever she was in New York City she had 493 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 8: to go to work and he was here. She was 494 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 8: constantly afraid that he was with other women. Tiga cheated 495 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 8: all the time on Kylie all the time. I mean, 496 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 8: I just hear all these stories from my office. When 497 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 8: lamar Odom had that overdose, Remember you were referencing when 498 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 8: she went to the I don't know it was, Nancy, 499 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 8: It wasn't just that prostitution and drug abuse. He had 500 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 8: an event, a health event where he almost died. Chloe 501 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 8: flew to be with him. The Kardashians surrounded him with love. 502 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 8: So it's not just that the men are taking advantage 503 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 8: of them. This is a group of women who tend 504 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 8: to be very supportive of the men in their lives. 505 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 8: But you know, it's that kind of like the blind 506 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 8: bleeding the blind. 507 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Men are using them and sucking them dry. Same thing 508 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: happening to Brittany. Now, we can't blame Brittany's apparent junk 509 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: driving on a man, but they certainly aren't helping to 510 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: Dave matt We've just been outlining all these incredible Kardashian 511 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: women dating and marrying a bunch of losers that sudden 512 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: them dry. That said, what about Britney. I mean, obviously 513 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Kevin feederline use her now as soon as the child 514 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: support is he starts pushing his tail all book. But 515 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: he is one in a line of many that have 516 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: used Britney, such as who Dave mack Well, she. 517 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 11: Had sam Asgari her final husband. You know, we've got 518 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 11: Columbus short Wade Robson, Jared Leito back in the day 519 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 11: fred Urce, and of course you know the guy that 520 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 11: she wins him. 521 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Ask you why who she's dated? I've asked you who's 522 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: using her? Who used her? 523 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 11: Every person in her life uses her, Nancy, she has 524 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 11: think about this. When you see her coming out of 525 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 11: that restaurant, who is she with? Nobody? When she was 526 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 11: at the red O a couple weeks ago, who was 527 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 11: she with somebody that was kind of following her around. 528 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 11: She doesn't have anyone in her life that isn't using 529 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 11: her for something, Nancy, including Fetter Line. As soon as 530 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 11: the child support stops, he comes out with that book 531 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 11: to trash her, just to make a paycheck. Everyone in 532 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 11: her life has constantly done this for her. 533 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: Crime stories. With Nancy Grace Sam Croupen joining us host 534 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: of Sampson's World on YouTube, this is a point. This 535 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: is a valid point. People use her and they seemingly 536 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: don't care at all about the effect on her. This 537 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: doesn't explain away alleged drunk driving. But we see all 538 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: of these enablers, including all of these. 539 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: Men, I mean we call them yes men, Nancy, and 540 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: I have to say, after watching this video over and 541 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: over and seeing the look on that bus, boy's face. 542 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm just feeling the body language and their faces that 543 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 3: like that. He's saying, like, we got to get her 544 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: out of here. But this is Britney Spears, so we 545 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: have to kind of treat her with kid gloves. If 546 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: this was any regular person, if I went in there 547 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: and probably held the restaurant up and would just it 548 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: looks like she's sitting in there drinking and then she 549 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: drops something they have to pick it up. But the 550 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: answer is is nobody wants to tell a celebrity no. 551 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: Why because once they do, they are instantly pushed out 552 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: of their circle. I mean, I'm sure you've had a 553 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: friend who goes to your party and wants to drink 554 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: and drive you like, please don't like I can drive, 555 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: I can't do it. You know, it's like a toddler. 556 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: Sam Creepin. You need to do more, a little more investigation. 557 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: We don't have parties with alcohol because I have twins. 558 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: What kind of example what I set for them? I 559 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: don't want them running outside it a bottle of wine. No, 560 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't invite people ever to drink at my parties. 561 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 3: Right, But I'm saying, Nancy, if I'm hanging out with you, 562 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: and Nancy Grace says, hey, Sam, you want to do 563 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: a shot with me? I'm like, well, this is Nancy Grace. 564 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: I got a rise to the occasion. I can't tell 565 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 3: her no. As regular people, we have a very hard time. 566 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Just say hey, Sam, do you want to do a 567 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: shot with me? That is never coming out of my mouth. 568 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: You need a different example. 569 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: Okay, look, Nancy. All I'm saying not hearing. All I'm saying, 570 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: Nancy is this is the problem with Hollywood and celebrities, 571 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 3: is that everybody a wants to do drinks with you. 572 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: They don't want to say no to you. They just 573 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: want to be the life of the party for you 574 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: and never say no. But here is the problem is, 575 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: look at Brittany. She's not touring anymore. She's not making 576 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: any money. She's blowing through her money. And I believe 577 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 3: what's so sad is this is a desperate call for help. 578 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: At some point, something tragic is going to happen. 579 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 9: The Britney Spears that we're seeing today is the Britney 580 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 9: Spears who was always existent. 581 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: I would like to see her here. I would like 582 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: to see her back on stage of her own volition. 583 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: I would like to see her recording music. 584 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: On the hills of a dangerous driving escapade, now a 585 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: wine bar fiasco. What is happening with Britney Spears and 586 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: is she heading straight to another conservatorship? This as question 587 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: swirling around her fake brit accent, people online even suggesting 588 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: she's got a split personality. That's nothing to joke about. 589 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: Listen and her early hands. 590 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: It's really hearty, high, as high as hot. 591 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: He's so hot, good gone. 592 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 12: I used to put my whole hand in it, as though, 593 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 12: since I honestly want to pull of it. It just 594 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 12: like it's not like one hundred and fifty degrees. It's 595 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 12: just like I'm one hundred and ten and just jumping 596 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 12: something fus you know, good stupid. 597 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: Look, I'm just a trial lawyer, but I know something 598 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: is wrong with that. Listen and then what was my 599 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: gifts so long? 600 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: What's apost to be long? 601 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: This is short? Now Britney Spears again adopting a fake 602 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: British accent, and she's really good at it. Listen and 603 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: can put my whome foot in there. 604 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 12: It's gonna be really funny. I have at my foot 605 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 12: and yeah, and it feels like just a moist tease 606 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 12: and it's like, oh good god, it feels so good. 607 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 12: Oh my god, it's like so nice. 608 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: And again, oh hi, you're not good. Who's gonna die? 609 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: I ask kid, Well, I would probably recommend going. He's 610 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna jump too, He's gonna jump to Doctor Bethany Marshall. 611 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have at least seen the movie Sybil 612 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: about multiple split personalities. That wasn't just a movie that 613 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: was based in fact, or the old uh dramatization Three 614 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: Faces of Eve, which was also based on a real 615 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: split personality, A multiple personality, not just split but multiple. 616 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: How likely is it? That's extremely rare? And I'm curious. 617 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: Hold on Sam Croupen joining us, star of Sampson's World 618 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: on YouTube, investigative journalist. When does the false accent come out? 619 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: Is it triggered? What is it intentional? What is it? 620 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't I just don't know, Nancy, I'm not really sure, 621 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 3: but I think hit British accent. 622 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 623 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: I mean, she's an actress, she's an artist. 624 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: Really, honestly, did you have to okay, you lost to 625 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: all journalistic credibility just then back to Dr Bethanie Marshall. Actually, 626 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: the reality is it comes out at all different times, 627 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: whether she's having fun, whether she's under duress, whether she's 628 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: shooting an instat video of her twirling around in nothing 629 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: but pasties. That's her right under the constitution. Does it 630 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: signify anything serious? Isn't that very rare to have split 631 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: or multiple personalities? 632 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 8: It signifies something serious, but not multiple personality disorder. With MPD, 633 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 8: the person usually dissociates from different aspects of their experience, 634 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 8: and usually it's from early trauma, so they have that 635 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 8: kind of very disconnected deer in the headlights. 636 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: Stop, what did you say? You know you're in warp 637 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: speed for us Mere Mortals, Doctor Bethy. What do you 638 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: mean from early trauma? You mean like being beaten or 639 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: used as a show pony when you're a child. 640 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 8: Well, actually, that's a very good point. I stand corrected. 641 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 8: But usually it's from sexual trauma or really severe torture 642 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 8: or abuse. The person disconnects from their feelings and thoughts, 643 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 8: so there's the detached quality and they're often not connected 644 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 8: to all parts of themselves, giving the appearance of multiple personalities. 645 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 8: I'll tell you what this big British accent is, Nancy. 646 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 8: It's what we call an affectation. An affectation is when 647 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 8: somebody uses like a word like darling, darling, or overly 648 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 8: complicated language, or commonly a fake British accent to impress 649 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 8: the people around them. So I think what's happening with 650 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 8: Brittany is she's lost her audience. She has huge Instagram following, 651 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 8: she doesn't have that experience of being on a stage 652 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 8: and getting the feedback from the audience. So all of 653 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 8: this fake Britain accent it's a way to pump herself 654 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 8: up in some artificial kind of way, to get the 655 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 8: illusion that she's even more impressive and attractive than she 656 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 8: experiences herself as being. 657 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Well, I want to follow up on the split personality 658 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: claims online from a lot of armchair therapists and psychoanalysts 659 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: with absolutely no training and no wonder Brittany goes into 660 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: hiding if she happens to look online, and we know 661 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: she lives online because things like this is this. 662 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 8: Video in Britney spears social media actually a different person 663 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 8: pretending to be her. 664 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: We came across multiple different theories. 665 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 3: Including that this is a green screen background, even though 666 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 3: Brittany has taken multiple. 667 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: Videos at this spot for years and you can clearly 668 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: see the background changes. 669 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 13: You guys really think that's the Britney Spears. That is 670 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 13: Britney Spears. I really am beginning to think that the 671 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 13: conspiracy theorist are the ones that believe that that is, 672 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 13: because I think the majority knows that it's not at 673 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 13: this point. 674 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: That was from NBC News TikTok and decoding celebrities on Insta. 675 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: So doctor Bethany Marshall the first or one of the 676 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: most recent apparent joint driving incidents. Brittany actually went online 677 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: and said that that was a look alike. Viewers and 678 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: fans are feeding into that, which is feeding into this 679 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: claim that she has a split personality. And I guess 680 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: the other Brittany is British. 681 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 8: Well, people with conspiracy theories, people want to attribute big 682 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 8: meanings to small causality, meaning this could just simply be 683 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 8: substance abuse, low self esteem, the exaggerated fake British accent 684 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 8: to make herself look better to other people. And that's 685 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 8: just what it is. It's nothing deeper, but they want 686 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 8: to make it deeper. 687 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: To Ashley Crispin, joining US veteran try A lawyer, she 688 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: is an expert in conservatorships, and guardianships. Is Brittany heading 689 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: straight toward another guardianship, a conservatorship, with possibly an intervention 690 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: as a speed bump along the way. 691 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 5: It certainly looks like it. It certainly looks like it. 692 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 5: I mean since two thousand and one, when she after 693 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 5: her thirteen plus year conservatorship, there was a low period 694 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 5: where we didn't hear too much from her, and recently 695 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 5: we've been seeing and hearing a lot and it doesn't 696 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 5: look good. And that's what conservatorships and guardianships are all about. 697 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 5: It's helping people who look like who or who are 698 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 5: unable to help themselves, taking rights from people who can't 699 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 5: do it, and giving it to a trusted person to 700 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 5: exercise those rights. And it looks like to me one 701 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 5: of those rights, at least in Florida, where I practice 702 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 5: most of the time, is the right to drive, the 703 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 5: right to have a driver's license. That would be something 704 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 5: that would be certainly hot off the press for me 705 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 5: in a conservatorship if I was handling it. 706 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: And to you, Kathy Griffin, private investigator, owner of k 707 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: Griff Investigations, Kathy, you have actually been hired or somebody 708 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: on your team to babysit or follow someone if they 709 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: are heavily drinking, if they are doing drugs. For what 710 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 1: evidence to go toward a conservatorship, that's correct, Nancy. 711 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 9: For children and parents, if they cannot help themselves take 712 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 9: care of themselves, if they have a problem with control. 713 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 9: I mean, obviously she seems to be out of control again, 714 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 9: and I feel like she needs some sort of supervision. 715 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 9: I think again it's a cry for attention, which she 716 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 9: does very well. But you know, yes, we are paid 717 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 9: to get the evidence for the courts so that they 718 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 9: can decide whether one parent or another or that person 719 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 9: needs to be conservatorship or under a certain parent versus 720 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 9: another one. 721 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: We remember an American hero, Sergeant Ronald Owen Onita Indian 722 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: Nation PDE killed in a line of duty after serving 723 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: forty five years, leaving behind a wife turned widow and 724 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: grieving son. American hero Sergeant Ronald Owen Nancy Gray signing 725 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,