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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. Yeah, it's been a fun start

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Speaker 2: to the year. Huh wow. Twenty twenty three off to

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Speaker 2: a roaring uh just incredible beginning. Hi everyone, maybe this

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Speaker 2: your Wednesday edition, the fourth of January twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I join you from the capital Ofstatasunitos right here in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. Joined by my friend. He is actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's looking pretty good today, looking pretty good. It's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: What's up, King of Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Luke. I've got a haircut, you know, which

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Speaker 1: And you know we I know what the people want.

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Speaker 1: So I am here to report that yes, just like

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Speaker 1: Jacob stitched her in, Dana White was never my friend, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Glad we see. Glad you clarified that. What a show

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Speaker 1: We have any good news, we have any good news, Luke?

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Speaker 2: Dylan Dannis Dylan Danis withdrew from his fight against KSI

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Speaker 1: Is that good news? I don't know all my heroes.

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Speaker 2: Lucer, it's funny news. How about that It's at least

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many giant stuff bears can

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Speaker 2: You know you see you got your your your guns

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Speaker 1: But hey, enough of that bullshit here, it's great to

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Speaker 1: to the nineties Long Island, Luke, can we put that

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Well, my wife got me this shirt for Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Our nineties are back, Luke, I want Christmas shopping and

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Speaker 2: being subjugated, but because you are being lifted into a

431
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Speaker 2: space where you actually understand the healthy relationships you can

432
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 2: have and what they can do for you, and what

433
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 2: they mean and what they tell you about the previous

434
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 2: messages you had and everything else. Your life doesn't begin

435
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: until that starts. Your true true fulfillment does not begin

436
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 2: until that begins. So I would just lastly encourage everyone

437
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: to take a step back. In combat sports, we are

438
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Speaker 2: filled to the brim with young men and in certain

439
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: cases older men Dana's not very young, who have nothing

440
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: but terrible ideas about women that are lies that are

441
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: not true. That our fictions you have held onto and

442
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 2: they need to go as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: No, that's well said, Luke, and I and I can

444
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 1: already feel you know the reaction of people, go well, Luke,

445
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: if they're as equal as you say, shouldn't they be,

446
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, equal grounds to strike back.

447
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, dude, was his safety and danger

448
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 2: was his safety, And that's what I.

449
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: Was going to get to this, and I was gonna

450
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Speaker 1: get to this. I know everybody's mounting up of Hey,

451
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Speaker 1: is this morning virtue combat? No, this is morning life

452
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Speaker 1: right now. So what we saw in that video was

453
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Speaker 1: not self defense. What we saw in that video was

454
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Speaker 1: a natural reaction in the moment of a man who

455
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Speaker 1: didn't know he was being filmed, most likely was in

456
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Speaker 1: a public place around others. Is what his wife did first,

457
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 1: not knowing the circumstances of what caused it, of course,

458
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: but is what she did first? Okay, hell no, there's

459
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, issues there that hopefully they can work it

460
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Speaker 1: out or if not, I don't know if it can

461
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Speaker 1: be worked out. Look, that's their business. That's the part

462
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: that is their business, right. But when you have this platform,

463
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: membership breeds responsibility. And that's why I think the best

464
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Speaker 1: thing you can do is just say, let's frame it

465
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Speaker 1: as a whole. Let's not go us versus data, and

466
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Speaker 1: let's not go well, what's the difference between Dana and

467
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Speaker 1: Gervante or anything like that. I mean, I could distinct

468
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Speaker 1: some type of difference that fighters are a different breed

469
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Speaker 1: and a lot of times younger and make mistakes and

470
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Speaker 1: come from awful backgrounds. But that's also to some degree

471
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Speaker 1: massaging it. It's a fucking horrible situation and the response

472
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Speaker 1: of the whole sport in general has saddened me to

473
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Speaker 1: be to be fair, what's on that video isn't right

474
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Speaker 1: under any circumstance. So maybe there's a lot of people

475
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Speaker 1: out there who do need to rethink, you know, the

476
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: bro code or the life code or whatever you you know,

477
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Speaker 1: whatever you roll with. And I'm talking about fighters too, Luke,

478
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about fighters, and I am talking about that

479
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Speaker 1: Kevin I only response column, which is.

480
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Speaker 2: Just a lot. But that was really bad. That was

481
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Speaker 2: really bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you what do you say about that?

483
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Speaker 1: So we're so we're gonna play up the how how

484
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Speaker 1: busy and successful this man is, and that may have

485
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: been the problem, and oh, let's not forget about all

486
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: this charitable acts. But hey, you know, I mean really.

487
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Speaker 2: See, let's look, let's let's have a go ahead and

488
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: need to cut you off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so my question is like if people are

490
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Speaker 1: looking at us going okay, great, great rant, but but

491
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Speaker 1: what what are you gonna do? What's gonna do next?

492
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Speaker 1: What should happen next? That's why my rant is named

493
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Speaker 1: Dad Dana. What are you gonna do with this? Because

494
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, oh, go take go, take three months

495
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Speaker 1: off and then we'll forget about it, or hey, Disney

496
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Speaker 1: remove them from their TV. I'm not saying any of

497
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: that bullshit. But how are you going to fix the

498
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Speaker 1: responsibility of the platform you have and what this says

499
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Speaker 1: about you and what this says about the sport?

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Speaker 2: Really?

501
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Speaker 1: I mean, damn Luke. And it's not one incident, it's

502
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: it's Baroni to five other ones that are going on

503
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: this week, and they're not all related in a sense,

504
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: but in another.

505
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Speaker 2: The common deny dominator is women. And again your virtue signaling,

506
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: please take your fucking fourth grade understanding of politics that

507
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: is just culture war bullshit and save it for someone

508
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: who gives a fuck, please, because this ain't the show.

509
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 2: We don't give a fuck about your culture war bullshit.

510
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm telling you we don't. We don't. We don't like

511
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: there is such There is a clear documented line all

512
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: the way through all of this, where the common denominator

513
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: is how we mistreat women. It's not the only problem

514
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: in combat sports, but it's a big one. It's a

515
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: really big one. And it can't come from an attitude

516
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: of all having a healthy view of their role and

517
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Speaker 2: their agency and everything else. It all stems from having

518
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: a fucked up worldview. It isn't possible to engage in

519
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: that behavior without one. So I just want to just

520
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: be very clear about this. If they don't like that,

521
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 2: I trust me when I tell you, I don't give

522
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: a shit. Don't give a shit at all. B see.

523
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Speaker 2: But let's forward the conversation just a little bit, which

524
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Speaker 2: is what should Endeavor and ESPN do. What will Endeavor

525
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: and ESPN do? Not about the slap League, because that's

526
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: a TBS thing which appears to be dead in the

527
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Speaker 2: water at this point. I guess we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how, first of all, how is it not

529
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Speaker 1: dead in the water when it's called the Dana White

530
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: Power Slap League and he's on tape power slapping his

531
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Speaker 1: wife And I don't say that to be funny, And

532
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: I know everyone's made the same joke on Twitter. Hey

533
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: you win, guys, Okay, everyone but think about that.

534
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Speaker 2: If you're the power slap people like you're not UFC,

535
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: you're not Danny, You're the power slap people at TBS,

536
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: you're looking at this and all the discussion around your

537
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: brand is about that, Like that is the number one

538
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: thing people are talking about. It's that thing has to

539
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: be dead.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you the question you asked

541
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Speaker 1: me and put it like this. You were on Dan

542
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Speaker 1: LeBatard show this morning. I did not get a chance

543
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Speaker 1: to listen to it, so I can't reference what you

544
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: guys talked about. But LeBatard had a great take that

545
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: was getting retweeted around yesterday, which is essentially saying, look,

546
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Speaker 1: here's a guy who knows the ESPN culture. And by

547
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Speaker 1: the way, Luke I was at ESPN for almost twelve years,

548
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: so I also know the ESPN culture. I've experienced times

549
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: when larger narratives were forcefully shut down and you were

550
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: told what you can and can't comment about different thing.

551
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've been through it, okay, But what

552
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Dan Lebttard's biggest question was who's Dana's boss, Like, whose

553
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: job is it now to step in and do something?

554
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: Even if that's something talk about virtue signaling, even if

555
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: that's something is just to show the people that we've

556
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: done something right. Like which what I always said about

557
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: Dana rewarding Connor McGregor for the Dolly incident with the

558
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: biggest fight ever and him saying, well, he paid enough

559
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: legal fees, he's fine. Even what does that image show

560
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: you of what you did to your own employee who

561
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: attacked other employees? You know, of the off the time

562
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: clock right away from the thing, Like whose job is it?

563
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: In your eyes? Is that Ari? Emmanuel and an endeavor Luke,

564
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not asking for them to

565
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: necessarily suspend it, but there's gotta be a discussion here.

566
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Speaker 1: Lebtard's biggest question was is Dana White too high where

567
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: there's no boss that can step in and tell him, Yo,

568
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: you fucked up and we gotta fix this. I mean, look,

569
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Speaker 1: we never thought Vince McMahon would step down from the

570
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: WW until the day he died, and that happened in

571
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: the past year, which was mind blowing. I gotta spin

572
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: that back up you because I don't know the answer

573
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: to your question. I want to know what should happen

574
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: and who's the adult in the room. That's going to

575
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: carry out whatever will right.

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00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: Well, here's what I say should happen, because Dan did

577
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: ask me, should Dan to be you know, what should

578
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: happen to him? I don't know if removing him is

579
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: the right idea, And I mean that generally. I literally

580
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how I feel about that.

581
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: On the one hand, it's like it seems like it's

582
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: a great idea. On the other hand, it seems like

583
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: it's a really poor idea, given that there's just a

584
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: lot of other factors that play but beside one incident.

585
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: Although I will say, like, you know, both of Dana

586
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: and his wife putting on statements being like this is

587
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: the first time it's ever happens, Like, dude, the first

588
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: time it's ever happened. He got caught on camera. I mean,

589
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: who believes this, Like you have to be very gullible

590
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: to believe something like that. But be that as it may,

591
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: we only have the one documented incident, So I don't

592
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: know if removal is or isn't the right answer. If

593
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: they did it, I would understand it candidly. But what

594
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: I told Dan was I do think a lengthy suspension

595
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: is in order. Yeah, I do think at a bare minimum,

596
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't need to be involved with the product for

597
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: a little while. And you might see that as depending

598
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: on the nature of it, right, because Dan Snyder's been

599
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: suspended here a million times and you know, kind of

600
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: always had his hand in the product. How useful is it?

601
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Here's what I will say. They can't

602
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: do nothing, which is what they're trying to do now.

603
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: What they're trying to do now is like when they're

604
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: asked for comment, they're not giving anything. They're not saying anything.

605
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: There's virtually no coverage of this on ESPN's website, hardly

606
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Speaker 2: at all. Virtually no coverage.

607
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: Can I can I pause you there and say this?

608
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not a kid's ESPN. I had a great

609
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: run there. Okay, I had some difference. Everybody's got some

610
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: differences when you leave a company, right, But.

611
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: Do they they hammer the NFL, they hammer the NBA,

612
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: and they won't say shit about this.

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00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Look. Do I wish I got paid more and it

614
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: was treated with more? You know, Hey, we got a

615
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: future guy on our hands. Yeah, okay, but that's not

616
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Speaker 1: enough for me to hold a grudge in this case.

617
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: ESPN's coverage from just a headline standpoint. Dana White apologizes

618
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: for you know, incident with wife, not even you know

619
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: like that that's the lead. That's the fucking framing job here.

620
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Like as you said, gutless dude, step up and handle this,

621
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Speaker 1: Step up and give this to Roger. Get all attention.

622
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Speaker 2: So what I would say is, I think a lengthy

623
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: suspension is where you start and then you go from there.

624
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: But here's what I think. I remember, I was a

625
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: two parter. I want to I asked you bec which was

626
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: what should they do? What will they do? I think

627
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: they probably will try to let this pass without much

628
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: of a say and then just go back to normal.

629
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Speaker 2: He might be he might miss an event or two

630
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: where Anne control John Annick will be at the dais,

631
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: or they'll get someone else to speak at the POSTFI

632
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: press conference or something, let it all die down and

633
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: then just rotate Dana back in. I think if they

634
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: can do nothing, they.

635
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Will And here's the deal on this. And I want

636
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: to say this firmly and clearly. Like the reason why

637
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: I say, I don't know what the right answer is

638
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: because I do think we are in a treacherous spot

639
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: as a culture of the you know, the offense culture

640
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: and cancel culture, and like, you know, people are just

641
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: waiting to be upset about something, and then you know,

642
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: how big can we make the group of people with

643
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: the pitchforks and the fire banging on the doors going

644
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: do something right. I don't want to lead to that, because, Luke,

645
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Speaker 1: that's why I framed my sort of rant around the

646
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: idea of being human, Like, I hope I don't ever

647
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: make a mistake like this, and it's not I hope

648
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: it's not in my DNA, by the way, but we

649
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: all make mistakes, and you know, some of us are

650
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: unlucky enough to have that happen on camera in major situations.

651
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: But I don't want to always see just that the

652
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: natural reaction to any egregious moment, a bad tweet, right,

653
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: saying something on air that's inappropriate, is just automatically no, fhim,

654
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: fire and fire him, throw him in the fire. Yeah,

655
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: cancel fucking culture. No, because there are ways of growth. Uh,

656
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's there's a lot of ways that

657
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: that I believe more in grace in giving a person

658
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: a chance to make a mistake and then you know,

659
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: prove us wrong. And I mean think that's that's the

660
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: human experience. That's a more rewarding result than just fuck you,

661
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: you're fired, not asking for that. But if nothing happens here,

662
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: what the hell does that send as a message that

663
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: that this man is untouchable.

664
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Speaker 2: Really, dude, I've been saying this, like to me, there

665
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: isn't a sport that allows for the general espousal and

666
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: declaration of what I'm gonna call retrograde worldviews, like totally

667
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: backwards bullshit, and doesn't do anything about them in terms

668
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: of the behavior. Like, there's no sport that is more

669
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: actually combat sports in general, so it's not just MMA,

670
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: but we're talking about MM at the moment. There's no

671
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: sport that is more forgiving and allowing of that kind

672
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: of a thing, you know. And so you get to

673
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: a point where it's like any kind of pushback on

674
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: this becomes like, oh, this is going to be cancel culture.

675
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: But I just really want folks to understand something here,

676
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: Like people try to make the argument, well, Luke, you're

677
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: not right because look at soccer, right, they held all

678
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: these human res abuses and they try to put the

679
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: World Cup in Qatar and the world just went along

680
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: with it. And that's true. There's a lot of corruption

681
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: and top down pressure that made that what it is.

682
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: But within the soccer community at the various levels, the fans,

683
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: the club teams, the club organizations and so on, the

684
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: charities involved, there's just a lot more resistance to that

685
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: within the sport itself all the way through. That doesn't

686
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: exist in MMA, right at every level, from the fan

687
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: base to the media to an extent as well by

688
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: the way, to the fighters to now the leadership of

689
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: the organization. There are all these views that get espoused

690
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: that directly lead to horrible fucking outcomes like this. Right,

691
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: however bad you want to say it is, it ain't

692
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 2: fucking great. It leads directly to this, and there's no

693
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: civilizing force inside MMA. And one of the big things

694
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: for MEBC is we all thought that when the UFC

695
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: got out of the Spike TV deal with Fox Sports

696
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: and then certainly with ESPN, that cozying up to the

697
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: mainstream would have this effect of like really sort of

698
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: leaning on these guys to police some of the more

699
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: obvious bad conduct stuff. Right, And it's done the opposite.

700
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: It's done the opposite. All it has done is enabled

701
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: it to the most profound degree none of it is ever.

702
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Look at what I mean again, cheul Strickland seems like

703
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: a troubled guy, a good fighter, and I like his

704
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: coach very much, But look at the stuff he says.

705
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: It is impossible to imagine an NBA player doing that

706
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: and getting away with it. It is impossible to imagine

707
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: an NFL or NHL or any other major sports league

708
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: player doing that and getting away with it. And when

709
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: I say getting away with it, I mean yeah, like

710
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: you should be allowed to express your opinions. You should

711
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: not be allowed without consequence from sponsors, certainly to to

712
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: be able to maintain associations while saying horrible shit about

713
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: people along the way. Now, I also agree that if

714
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: you can't fight in the cage and you can't fight

715
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: in a ring, I don't know what you can do

716
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: in this country. It's not so much about losing your job,

717
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: but it's about civilizing forces bearing down on the sport

718
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: so that we rein in the more obvious bad conduct stuff.

719
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: None of that shit exists, and so you just get

720
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: to live with this the way that it is. And

721
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: it's fucking gross. It's gross as shit.

722
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Rarely am I speechless. Luke in response, but it's like,

723
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: what else do you want us to do? What else

724
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: do you want us to say? I mean, you know,

725
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: we already got people on Twitter responding and saying, you guys, great,

726
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, great ramp, but he did nothing wrong? All right?

727
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: Then you know what like unsubscribed?

728
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: Please, yeah, don't watch the show. I really don't want it.

729
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: Like that's fine, that's great, you know, that's great. Okay,

730
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: we may run into you on the jan six steps Friday,

731
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: that's fine, but you know, don't don't but don't you know,

732
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, don't jokes aside, No fucking no jokes aside,

733
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: Like this is this is dude?

734
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: How can they just going forward? How like what happens

735
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: if this happens with another fighter? What could they possibly

736
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: do to him? Like remember Louis Paygnet. Again, there's also

737
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: wins and losses and so like someone has like a

738
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: coming off of a loss and then they get arrested

739
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: for hitting their girlfriend or whatever. Yeah, you can cut

740
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: them because it's a little bit easier in that sense,

741
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: But like, what are they supposed to do when this happen?

742
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: Because it will happen again, I mean, this will happen

743
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: in the larger larger population anyway, But what's gonna happen

744
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: when this happens in a high profile way and they

745
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: want to rain down on the person, Like, what are

746
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: they going to say? Like they can't there's like no

747
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: moral authority, no ethical authority, no nothing to do anything

748
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: about it. At this stage, I'd say, well, they didn't

749
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: already for John Jones, But that's complicated because there's always

750
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts there. And yeah, to some

751
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: extent that's actually true. But I mean, how do you

752
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: claim to be able to say, like your organization cares

753
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: about women if you're in no capacity to do anything

754
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: about like domestic violence from your organizational leader all the

755
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: way on down. It doesn't It doesn't compute. It puts

756
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: you in a in a spot where you can't do

757
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: anything about it at all while being taken seriously anymore.

758
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 2: I really don't know what they're gonna do. I really

759
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: really don't know.

760
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: Did did anything about the TMZ, Like you know, the

761
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: way that this hit the news cycle? Just feel like

762
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like.

763
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: Dude, it was so staged, the whole thing.

764
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's the word, the whole And look,

765
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know you made reference, So I

766
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: don't actually know did did TMZ get word of this

767
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: and pitch it to Dana or so the other way around.

768
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm just going to use conjecture, but I don't know

769
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: for a fact. That's my opinion. But my opinion is

770
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: that there's they got the footage from someone and then

771
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: they hit them up and said, we're going to publish it.

772
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: Why don't you do you give us some kind of

773
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: media release in conjunction with it, so it all comes

774
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: out at the exact same time. Dude, effective PR is

775
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: effective PR. Right. He came out with a statement, his

776
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: wife came out with a statement at the same time

777
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: as the report, which was worded very softly by the

778
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: way to begin with. And so what you got was like, okay, guys,

779
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: we were sorry about it, right up front, right up front.

780
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 2: There was a there was a right up front away

781
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: to like minimize the damage of this that was, in

782
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: my opinion, clearly done in an orchestrated way to help

783
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: his interests here that a lot of other folks wouldn't

784
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: get the benefit of.

785
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: And by the way, this ain't the UFC on Fuel

786
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: TV era, Like the stakes have changed. When you're a

787
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: publicly traded company, when you have the not a ESPN deal,

788
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: you have the ESPN deal. I mean, look them signing

789
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: that ESPN deals arguably the biggest headline in this company's history.

790
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: It's the full circle turnaround. I mean, they're already on

791
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: national TV with Fox, but like the you know, remember

792
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: where we were in MMA in two thousand and eight,

793
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. It's why when ESPN first watched

794
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: MMA live as like this digital show, it was like,

795
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: oh shit, they're actually kind of taking it seriously. Would

796
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: you ever imagine that we are here, Well, we're here.

797
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: UFC is actually you know, one one thing Dana White

798
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: pitched out a long ago of one day, you know,

799
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: UFC MMA will be considered among the Big four. It

800
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: pretty much is at this point. So again, the stakes

801
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: have changed, you know, the consequences changed in this regard.

802
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: You know, whatever think tank is going to get together

803
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: and say, how do we deal with this moving forward?

804
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: You better do it the right way because it's going

805
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: to set a very interesting precedent for the future. And

806
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care, I don't care about you know,

807
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: does the punishment equal the outrage we feel of watching

808
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: it it's not about us at the end of the day,

809
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: but it is about how you're going to use this

810
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: to make positive change to the culture in general, to

811
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: combat sports, which is already you know, it's already murky,

812
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: and it's already the red light district and all those

813
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: great quotes and some of us to a certain degree,

814
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm guilty of this two At times, it's

815
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: just sort of like, well, it's fucking fighting, So you

816
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: know you're going to see more arrests and more gross

817
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: comments and trash talk, and you know, I'm not trying

818
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: to clean it up completely. This though, what we saw

819
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: nothing fucking at all to do with what we see

820
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: inside the sport on a regular basis, outside of the

821
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: fact that this negative culture is just everywhere and rampant

822
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: and you saw the reaction to it.

823
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, last thing on this MMA combat

824
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: sports boxing. It's always gonna be rough around the edges always.

825
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: You're always gonna get characters, certain cases from the street.

826
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: You're always gonna get competitors saying horrible shit to each other.

827
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: Like it is gonna be rough around the edges. I'm

828
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: gonna say one more time, if you can't fight in

829
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: a cage or a ring in this country, I'm really

830
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: not sure what you can do. Like the barrier to

831
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: entry that to that should be low, and because it's low,

832
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna get some rough characters. That's how it's gonna be.

833
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: But when you start committing crimes, which by the way,

834
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: hitting her and she hitting him too, SHO be fair

835
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: about that, it's fucking crimes, man, Those are crimes. Like

836
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: when you start getting to that level, all bets are

837
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: off at that point. Now, BC, let's get to it now.

838
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, we go from the frying pan to

839
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: the fire, Jervonte Davis is gonna be fighting one this

840
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: weekend in Washington, d c BC. I'll go first with

841
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: you on this one. I want to talk about the

842
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: fight itself in some of the story lines. We will

843
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: in just a second, because, by the way, it's a

844
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: great card here in DC on showtime pay per view.

845
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: But Gervonte Tank Davis two previous run ins with domestic violence,

846
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: a hit and run incident for which he is a

847
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: jury trial in fucking February with multiple felony council on

848
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 2: the way, and then he has this one where yes,

849
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: the woman in question came out later and then said

850
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: she shouldn't have called the police and be actually no, uh,

851
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: Gervanti didn't put his hands on her. Now you can

852
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: believe that or not, you know, I don't know what

853
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: the fuck to believe anymore. BC, How how do you

854
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: assess this situation? How do you assess it in light

855
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: of what happened to Dana? What do we say here?

856
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's equally in some regards, just disappointing

857
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: at a bad look overall, though it's not necessarily like

858
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: apples to apples in the overall comparison. And that's not

859
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of sure they multi million dollar

860
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: exect you know, no better or be different. I don't know. Again,

861
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: we're all human at the end of the day. In

862
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: Gravante's situation, though, Luke those other aggressions he you know, uh,

863
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, did did face, did face arrest, and the

864
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: public scorn and the you know, removal of the benefit

865
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: of the doubt already in terms of his reputation and name.

866
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: That's why when this news hit you can really do

867
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: nothing but shake your head and be disgusted. And you know,

868
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: and some people did write, you know, the columns and

869
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: saying like, look, is boxing enabling him? I think that's

870
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: all interesting, normal topics to have in this situation. In

871
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: this situation though, but specifically, you do have sort of

872
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: that that unknown, that gray area. You know he was

873
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: he posted it. You know, he spent a night in jail,

874
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: posted a thousand dollars bail for a misdemeanor. Now the

875
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: person in question says it doesn't happen. I don't know

876
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: the facts, Luke. That's the thing at the end of

877
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: the day, and I cannot stress enough that the benefit

878
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: of the doubt is gone in this situation from a

879
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: young man who's uber talented but has had multiple egregious

880
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: uh you know, uh transgressions here. I do know that

881
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: there were legitimate discussions and debates of should the fight

882
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: go on? And I certainly think it's a fair discussion,

883
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: whether on this show or in barbershops or whatever, for

884
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: fights to go should that go on? At the end

885
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: of the day, a decision was made. I get it

886
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: based on the circumstances in front of you. Is there

887
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: a larger conversation about Tank Davis, the direction he's going

888
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: in his life, not the boxing career in his life,

889
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: and how these major scares and warnings should hopefully create

890
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: major change. Yes, for a young man who came from

891
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: very tough circumstances. But I'm not going to use that

892
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: as an excuse even if this situation didn't happen at

893
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: all and it was a misrepresentation. I think in general,

894
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: you know, there's some expectations moving forward of how he's

895
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: going to behave, you know, to still be allowed to

896
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: headline pay per views, like what.

897
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: Let's ask it, like, should showtime being the Tank David's business, right?

898
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we have to ask these questions. We're gonna

899
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: ask them about data. We gotta askhim about Tank. It's

900
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: not so clear. It's really I don't know, Like I said,

901
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: with data, I don't know what the right answer is.

902
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: The one big difference to me is that there actually

903
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: are legal consequences or at least some procede legal consequences

904
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: for Tank, not not the jury trial stuff, but this

905
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: incident as well, So like that does make it a

906
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: little bit different. But dude, he's had multiple run ins,

907
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: He's had multiple chances, you know, like there is like

908
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: I again, we don't get to make these decisions. We

909
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: have talked to some of the people who are decision makers.

910
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: They feel that there are going to be some circumstances

911
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: moving forward that will make Tank look in a better light.

912
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see about that. But you know,

913
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't love that shit either. To be quite honest

914
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: with you, man, I don't think anyone really does. I

915
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: don't think anyone looks at the situation and should feel

916
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: real good about it.

917
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: Well, look, in some degree at the end of the day,

918
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: because the fight is going on, whether you know whether

919
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: the person out there can judge for themselves if that's

920
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: the right choice. And by the way, again, look you

921
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: have to do look at the facts. It's very grey.

922
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: We're not sure about this specific situation, but you do

923
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: have to some point separate the headline in this situation

924
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: from the fight itself. The only thing I think that's

925
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: worth talking about in putting those two together is what

926
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: impact will all that negativity have on the fighter and

927
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: the fight himself as we move forward to Saturday's pay

928
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: per view card. Because Luke already, even though this fight

929
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: is framed for Jervonta Davis, as you know, potentially a

930
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: a tough last step on the road to this Ryan

931
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: Garcia super fight that's been proposed for April. It was

932
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: never an easy about to begin with, considering Hector Luis

933
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: Garcia used last year as a monster coming out year

934
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: to win a world title one hundred and thirty pounds

935
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: to upset Chris Colbert in such dominant fashion. This is

936
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: already a sneaky good fight on paper, but you do

937
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: have to look closely at the person. Gervante Davison ask

938
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: what effect will this have as we as we point

939
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: now toward the actual fight.

940
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess the last thing I'd say on

941
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: this is I'm you know, we're covering the event. I

942
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: love working with Showtime. You know, I think it's very

943
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: fair for me to say this and human for me

944
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: to say this. I am conflicted about it. I really,

945
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, say with mma too. Like, you know, people

946
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: ask me if you have all of these moral reservations

947
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: about it, like why do you keep working in the industry.

948
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: It's because I fucking love fights. Man. It's not a

949
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: great answer, but it's the answer, Like I don't want

950
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: to let I don't want to let this part of

951
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: my life go. This part of my life, the fighting

952
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: side of it as a spectator obviously has brought me

953
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: more joy than anything else outside of my family or

954
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: something like that, right, Like, b see, don't you feel

955
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: that way, Like like this is what is the great

956
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: love of your life. It's fucking fighting, Like that's how

957
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: I feel. But I do feel conflicted about working on

958
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: a Tech Davis card, dude. And I don't think I'm

959
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: unfair or or I don't think that's wrong to say.

960
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, look, this is a this is an ongoing

961
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: battle when you're a combat sports fan, when you make

962
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: a living in this space as we do, when a

963
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: fighter has the chance and in boxing, unfortunately happens more

964
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: than we'd like to remember or talk about, when somebody

965
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: can lose their life and you know, in the ring

966
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: or in the cage, and unfortunately that hasn't happened on

967
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: the you know, super elite MMA level in the States

968
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: or anything. But it's always in play, and this dangerous

969
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: that there's always going to be those conflictions in those

970
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: times when you do check yourself. And I do agree.

971
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: This is my favorite form of entertainment across the board

972
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: and and and in relation to sports, and I do

973
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: tend to take a lot from this game that inspires me.

974
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: The human struggle, the the overcoming, the rallying, the persevering.

975
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm attracted to this game first and foremost,

976
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: foreseeing that portrayed in such a very real way in

977
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: the entertainment bubble of sports. And I don't want to

978
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: change that, you know, when done safely and when here.

979
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is this is another thing, like you

980
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: say that sort of makes you question that, But damn,

981
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: in this case, Luke, the fight will go on and

982
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it in this situation. And

983
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: is there conflictions, Yeah, to a certain degree, But there's

984
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: always conflictions in this game. That's the most honest I

985
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: can say, Luke. There's always times there's no way.

986
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: I'll say this be see from our vantage point, maybe

987
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: you agree there's you can't work in this business and

988
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: not get a little bit dirty, as I mentioned, like

989
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna get people because the barriers to entry are

990
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: and should be low, Like there's just no way like

991
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: and also I'll say this too, well, I'm not sure

992
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: if I can say that, because I'm not sure how

993
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: fac true factually true it is. But just in general, like,

994
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: forget about this situation or any other like as you

995
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: go through the course of your career. You know you're

996
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: gonna like all the fights in Saudi Arabia, right, Like,

997
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: to what extent is any of that ethical? You have

998
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: to make choices about that too. All of it is

999
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: very difficult, and we are not paragons of virtue. I

1000
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: hope folks really understand that we're not making that argument.

1001
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: But you at least have to be honest about the stakes, right,

1002
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: You got to be honest about the characters. You have

1003
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: to be honest about the stakes. The audience can make

1004
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: whatever choice they want to make about it, and they will,

1005
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: and I hope that we've tried to do that today.

1006
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: I hope that we've tried to do that. BC. Let's

1007
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: talk about this fight as best we can here, because

1008
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: there is a card. Do you mention it is gonna happen?

1009
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, the card's great separate from employment

1010
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: with showtime and the fact that we get to call

1011
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: the prelimbs and host the way and I can't wait

1012
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: BC and DCMK on the road, it's gonna be great

1013
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: separate from all that other stuff. Damn, dude, I really

1014
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: want to see what this looks like. I watched the

1015
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: All Access episode. It really plays up what is the

1016
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: truth theme in this that's separate to Gervante's rise, which

1017
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: is what gets you in the building, right. This is

1018
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: the final step before possibly that Ryan Garcia super fight. Dude,

1019
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: there's this human arc story of Hector Luis Garcia of

1020
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic, who fought in the Olympics in twenty

1021
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: sixteen but did not meddle and has come in with

1022
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: you know, over three hundred to four hundred amateur fights

1023
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: in his background, depending on who you ask, and just

1024
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: went from nobody a year ago in this game to

1025
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: somebody pretty damn big, a reigning champion at one hundred

1026
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds who's moving up in weight with his

1027
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: unbeaten record. Because this chance, this opportunity to prove yourself

1028
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: against one of the ten or twelve best fighters in

1029
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: this game. Dude, there's a hard ass fight on paper,

1030
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: all these circumstances around it. I don't know the role

1031
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: they're going to play. I want to find out, but

1032
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Hector Luis Garcia is coming the hell on to have

1033
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: his moment. This has from a boxing standpoint, to be

1034
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: a very interesting collision Saturday night. I'm really telling you

1035
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: this is a very good fight on paper.

1036
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic fight on paper. Again, I don't want

1037
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: to trivialize what Take has been arrested for, but rather

1038
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: you have to acknowledge the real world impact, right, the impact,

1039
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: which is Jesus Christ. This is not a tough guy

1040
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: moving up a weight class. He's you know, we've talked

1041
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: about it before, kicking Chris Colbert's ass in a very

1042
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: surprising way. He was an Olympian. I think he's undefeated

1043
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: as well. All the things you've said BC, how much

1044
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: like we didn't even know if Ted Davis should even

1045
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: take this fight. Forget what happened a week or two ago. Right,

1046
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: this is just a tough ass fight like it's not.

1047
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: And I even asked him, why did you take this fight?

1048
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: He's like, because it's tough, Like we all agree stuff.

1049
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: How much will this chaos that he has invited into

1050
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: his life, how much will that determine the outcome?

1051
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Well, that's what he's gonna have to show us, because

1052
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: even though he passed the test, you know, four or

1053
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: five years ago of what at that point was his

1054
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: biggest opportunity to date for Tank when he was on

1055
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: the col main event of Mayweather McGregor, right, a huge

1056
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to show people that he's the next thing, a

1057
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: bleue weight on the scale. Right, Remember, he missed his title,

1058
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't look great in that fight, was able to hold together,

1059
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: get the stoppage, get the victory. He's grown as a

1060
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: fighter so much from that point. But what's interesting is

1061
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: how these narratives lay out, which is again separate from

1062
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: the legal stuff outside the ring. This was all this

1063
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to be Tank's chance to step out of

1064
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: the shadow of Floyd Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions of the people

1065
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: who from the very beginning, you know, did a great

1066
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: job in building up his career and showing people that

1067
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: he's the next big thing. Well, this is now Tank

1068
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: stepping out on his own, and oddly enough, he's gonna

1069
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: have to show us really one of the key incredible

1070
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: ingredients that made his former boss, Floyd Mayweather or former

1071
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: promoter maybe not boss, such an incredible sustaining long term

1072
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: force in this game, which is why Mayweather's in the

1073
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: discussion among you know, the ten, twelve, fifteen wherever you

1074
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: are at best fighters of all time, because Mayweather was

1075
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: unflappable regardless of what was going on. Outside the ring

1076
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: or stubs even in it. If you remember that Zab

1077
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: Judah brawl with you know, with the trainers and Zab

1078
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: and all that crazy, you know, a lot of that

1079
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: Floyd brought on himself. He had his own major missteps

1080
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: outside the ring, including a twenty twelve jail sentence for

1081
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: domestic assault, but he was always able to pause that,

1082
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: stay as true and professional to his craft and handle

1083
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: his business and deliver it. It is going to be interesting,

1084
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: given this extra level of scrutiny, of which most of

1085
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: it Tank brought on himself, to see can he be

1086
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: Floyd like in that very same aspect of being able to,

1087
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: you know, roll with the chaos and not only not

1088
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: let it affect him, Luke, but maybe in some ways

1089
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: embolden him. You know, it's not going to erase everything

1090
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: outside the ring, but it's going to show you that

1091
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: what we're looking at here is a potential all time

1092
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: great in the making from a boxing standpoint, and this

1093
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: is going to be a big test X's and those

1094
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: whyse but maybe even deeper from being able to keep

1095
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: that focus roll with the punches, because if you asked

1096
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: me Layman's terms, if someone said b Se I never

1097
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: saw Hector Luis Garcia before. I didn't watch him Roger

1098
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: Gutierrez for the title last year. I didn watch him

1099
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: give Chris Colbot his first loss and just break him

1100
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: down and destroy him. What's he like, Well, here's the deal.

1101
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: Garcia can actually do it all. He has a like

1102
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: real legitimate amateur background. He said on the All Access Show.

1103
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: He spent his whole early part of his career just

1104
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: being a pure boxer, and then when he turned pro,

1105
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: he turned into a reckless, aggressive, walk you down, go

1106
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: after you guy. He's found a way at the elite

1107
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: level to marry those two things together, meaning Hector Luis

1108
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: Garcia gets into the pocket, sets up shop right in

1109
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: front of you, leans on his daring nature and his

1110
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: good chin, and lets his hands go at volume. Never recklessly,

1111
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: never you know, out of control, never irresponsible defensively, but

1112
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: like I said, he does lean on his chin to

1113
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: hold that ground and he brings the fight to you.

1114
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: He never gets tired, he never stops throwing. And the

1115
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: key to when he's allowed to post up in front

1116
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 1: of you at close range. He has so many variations

1117
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: to his craft of how he throws his shots. He

1118
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: throws uppercut, side arm hooks. He throws all kinds of

1119
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: different weird shots from weird angles that really get it,

1120
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: gets a hard time fighters picking up his rhythm and

1121
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: his variants there. That's a legitimate test of what Tank

1122
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Davis can do against him here. Obviously, Garcia's chin is

1123
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to be in a condition like it's never

1124
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: been before because Tank is a bigger fighter and a

1125
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: bigger weight class with you know, life changing power here

1126
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: inside the ring. But Hector Luis Garcia also has a

1127
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: few potential avenues that could really test Tank from the

1128
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: idea of game planning, adjusting, counter punching, all these things

1129
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: that Tank really does great but doesn't always get the

1130
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: credit for because he's such a potent offensive knockout threat. Dude,

1131
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: Garcia is the real deal. And while he's gonna have

1132
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: to bite down on that gum shield to win this fight,

1133
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: he's willing to do that, Luke Thomas, and if shit

1134
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: goes sideways, he's willing and able to make this a

1135
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 1: point fight from the outside. Dude, this is a good again,

1136
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: This is a good ass fight that Tank's gonna have

1137
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: to be on point in more than one way.

1138
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: I think you have. I don't have anything to add

1139
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: to that. It's you succinctly stated it. This is a

1140
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: this is a real test. I think Gervante has only

1141
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, raised his own difficulties levels by virtue of

1142
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: the chaos he has invited into his life whatever happened

1143
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: with that particular situation. And also he will face the

1144
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: media tomorrow. There is a press conference tomorrow which he

1145
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: will be in attendance.

1146
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: For some Oh yeah, you're right, media work Today's.

1147
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: The workout, tomorrow's the presses.

1148
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you and I will be hosting that along

1149
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: with the Wayne on Friday, Luke, So you'll be seeing

1150
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: a lot of us this week, not Today's workout.

1151
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: B C and I are not hosting Today's workout. I

1152
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: don't think there is a host, but we're If there is,

1153
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: we're not part of it. But tomorrow there's the press

1154
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: or Friday the Way and Saturday the Fight, so we'll

1155
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: see how that goes. Also on that card, BC, speaking

1156
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: of that, now we can get to like the really

1157
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: good part, the good news, like the no extra baggage shit,

1158
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: uh Jiron, Ennis, Jon Ennis, Ladies and gentlemen, I've been

1159
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: saying this name man, BC. I remember where I was.

1160
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: Do you remember where you were when you saw Ron

1161
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: James on the cover of Sports Illustrated when he was

1162
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: still a high school student and the article was written

1163
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: by Grant Wall. I was my senior year in college.

1164
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 2: A buddy of mine in the fraternity house was from Ohio.

1165
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: He's a big ballplayer. He loved Lebron as a high

1166
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: school athlete, and he showed me He's like, dude, this

1167
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: is the next Michael Jordan. I remember that very very

1168
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: very very vividly. Now. I don't know if jon Nis

1169
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: is going to be the Michael Jordan of basketball or something,

1170
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: but I hope folks can remember this name and remember

1171
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 2: the moment Ennis Folks is headed for big time shit.

1172
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: He is, here's what big time titles, taking on a

1173
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: car in car in Chucazi and go.

1174
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: Ahead, yeah, and in that Lebron you know, comparison is

1175
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: like I don't maybe not remember as much of that

1176
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: story coming out, or you know, I did watch his

1177
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: first early high school games on ESPN, but I remember

1178
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: his pro debut at Sacramento and in making that night

1179
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: an event and then just watching a kid walk out

1180
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: there and do man stuff. That's a feel of what

1181
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: Ennis brings to the table. But the question is, like,

1182
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: will anybody be able to actually give him some type

1183
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: of pushback? Is it this fight against Karen Cucasian. We

1184
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: don't know yet. Look, Cickasian is fought largely, you know,

1185
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: outside of American television in the spotlight to get to

1186
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: this point where he'd be fighting for an interim IBF

1187
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: welterweight title. But the key here for Boots Ennis is

1188
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: what this victory pulled with him already being Errol Spence's

1189
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: mandatory contender. I believe in the WBA that the elites

1190
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: cannot sidestep him any further. So Boots Ennis's father came

1191
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: out and I forgot which who he talked to a outlet,

1192
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: but basically said, after this fight, if Boots wins, they

1193
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: believe The understanding is that Errol Spence is one hundred

1194
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: and twenty days to you know, announce a fight against

1195
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: him with Ennis as the mandatory challenger, or give up

1196
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: a title. Now there's a few different things that can happen, right,

1197
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Spence could announce a fight with Crawford, and to some

1198
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: degree the sanctioning bodies could give a pass, given that's

1199
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: an undisputed fight to him and to have to defend

1200
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: against the winner of this fight later, or Spence could

1201
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: give up a title, or Boots could be paid side

1202
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: step money for a big fight to that for that

1203
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: to happen, or maybe earl Spence's face with that decision

1204
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: of face Boots after this fight next to keep his title,

1205
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: or like I said, give it up. He can't be

1206
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: avoided any longer Jeron Ennis if he gets this victory

1207
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: over Karencacadian. So look, we're gonna crush tape and we're

1208
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna get up to speed completely on we're chickadsians. Is

1209
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: that we're not lying from the standpoint that he's a

1210
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: largely unknown in these parts in the American boxing circles.

1211
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: But this is a platform here in the comin event

1212
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: of a pay per view for Boots to continue kicking

1213
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: the TV screen in and letting you know that he's

1214
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: that rare talent that's coming on. But Luke, after this,

1215
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: they can't avoid him. He's going to be able to

1216
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: fight for a full world title in his next fight.

1217
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be against two right, who's gonna say

1218
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: yes to that? Who's going to stand in there and

1219
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: take it. I can't wait to find out how great

1220
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: he is. And we'll see if there's the type of

1221
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: pushback that gets to show us that extra gear. Because

1222
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: Luke I talked to him a few weeks ago, and

1223
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: of course people can check that interview out on YouTube

1224
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: dot com slash Morning Combat and said, like, you know,

1225
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: how how much do you think you've shown up to

1226
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: this point or had to have shown? Because Luke I

1227
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: was ringside when he blew away Thomas DeLorme and right

1228
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: like less than a round, just like holy shit, just

1229
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: fruit ninja just sliced right through him, and he was

1230
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: basically like not much. And you know you could that

1231
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: could be a cocky young fighter saying, no, no one's

1232
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: put me to my breaking point. They haven't had to

1233
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: show the dog in me yet. Go back and watch

1234
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: his highlights up to this point, Luke. And by the way,

1235
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: he has faced some some fairly legitimate you know Lippin

1236
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: Yet's Clayton on the way up, guys that could have

1237
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: potentially tested him. Now he sliced right through them. Just

1238
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: something super special here, a guy that can switch stands

1239
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 1: as the guy that has all the extra video game

1240
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: buttons you can press to do all the crazy shit.

1241
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: There's a big fight. Though there's a big fight, Luke

1242
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: Spence is gonna end up with a very tough decision.

1243
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see how the overall walter White

1244
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: title picture plays out. Spence put out a cryptic tweet

1245
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: that said, April, does that mean that's when he comes back?

1246
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: Is he gonna fight Keith Thurman? Or is he gonna

1247
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: be pushing the direction of this or maybe making a

1248
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: fight with Terrence Crawford. We do know what was just

1249
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: announced is that Virgil Ortiz Junior has agreed to fight Staniosis,

1250
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: who just had the big victory of a radjab Bhutaye

1251
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: have to take one of those secondary welterweight belts. But

1252
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: we're narrowing it down. We're getting closer, and Luke, this

1253
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: is what we teased when we did the twenty twenty

1254
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,479
Speaker 1: three preview a couple of weeks back. I want Spence

1255
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Crawford more than on anybody, even though they're running out

1256
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: of we're running out of patience for that matchup. But

1257
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: if either of those guys gets replaced by Boots Ennis,

1258
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: that that conversation is still just as potent.

1259
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: Brother.

1260
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, it really is. It really is, because we're

1261
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: about to find out what we have here.

1262
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: I just want to remind folks I can't add more

1263
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: to the story than what BC did. But just as

1264
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: a final note on Jaron Ennis, you can see his like.

1265
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: Look at the way in which he's able to pick

1266
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: his punches, how quickly and effortlessly he makes decisions switching

1267
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: from southward Orthodox and by the way like fully can

1268
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: fight in Orthodox, fully can fight in South Paul, these

1269
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: guys can't last more than a round or a couple

1270
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: of rounds with him. He is powerful, he has athletic

1271
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't take much damage. Guys, I am just telling

1272
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: you now we've been on this, We've been banging this

1273
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: drum for a while about boots En. There's a reason

1274
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: for it. He is incredibly special. I tend to think

1275
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: BC just a guest. We don't know what they don't

1276
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: tell us these things. I'm gonna guess that boots is

1277
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: gonna win on Saturday, and that he's not gonna get

1278
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: Errol Spence next. Spence probably gonna fight, because again, I

1279
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: don't think Bud Crawford really wants to fight Spence at all.

1280
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: That's my personal opinion, I just don't think he wants it,

1281
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: so I think it's gonna end up being someone like

1282
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: Keith Thurman or somebody else. But either way, end of

1283
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: this year or certainly the beginning of twenty twenty four,

1284
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: the Boots Ennis experience is gonna be in full effect,

1285
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: and it's good to get on the bandwagon.

1286
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: Now do you echo me in saying that short of

1287
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: getting Boots versus Spencer Crawford next if he wins, or

1288
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: short of him getting Thurman, which would also be an

1289
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: interesting fight, do you think your Dennis hugs like I do?

1290
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: Is that perfect next test? If Ennis wins on Saturday.

1291
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: Yes, a defensive slickster who if you're not careful and

1292
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: you over commit or you get too aggressive, he can

1293
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: really light you up. But a guy who is as

1294
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: clever and as athletic and as just quick thinking as

1295
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: a guy like Boots Ennis, can he crack that code?

1296
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: It would be the most elite opponent he would have fought.

1297
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: And then at that point, if he wins defeated, Yes, majorly,

1298
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: majorly in favor of something like that, any kind of

1299
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: test where we can know sort of what we're really

1300
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: getting here with Boots. I think would be really valuable.

1301
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely.

1302
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: You see one more note on this card. Rashidie Ellis

1303
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: is on the card. But the other one that to

1304
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: me caught my attention of course in yours as well,

1305
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: Booboo Andred is on this card. Demetrius Andreid taking on

1306
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: demand Nicholson. How big of a deal is it that

1307
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: he's no longer on his own? I guess he's PBC.

1308
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: Now what does that mean for his future?

1309
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: It means a bit put the potential for big things. Look,

1310
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: it was a failed experiment he tried. He went with

1311
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: Eddie Hearn and Matrium's Sport went over to the zone.

1312
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: They promised the ability to finally getting him into the

1313
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: big fights across multiple divisions that he was looking for,

1314
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: and you know, it didn't work out, and Eddie was

1315
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: straight up about that it didn't. It didn't work out. Look,

1316
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 1: he's always been a you know, high risk, low reward guy.

1317
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: He can stink out a fight if he has to,

1318
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: but he also can fight exciting when he needs to.

1319
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: Long arms, can you know, South Paul can switch around,

1320
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: cand just so slick, so many great things. But he's

1321
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: he's getting older, into his thirty so it's time now

1322
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: to find out. And when you look at the landscape

1323
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: and we talk about how one hundred and sixty eight

1324
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: pounds is already arguably the most fun division at the

1325
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: moment and next year, especially if Canela Alvarez comes back

1326
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: to it and Jamal Charlow potentially moves up and then

1327
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: you got Ben Avida's plant. David Morrell, I mean, dude,

1328
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it's getting fun up in there. Adding this

1329
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: guy to that, to that discussion overall, this is the

1330
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: best path for him. Demon Nicholson is a fight Andreid

1331
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: should win, but but not you know, not a safe,

1332
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: easy test by any means. So this will be a

1333
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: good test of exactly where he still is at, by

1334
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: the way, in a new division. Sixty eight always said

1335
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: he would do it and move up there for a

1336
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: big fight, but had won a title before at fifty four,

1337
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: had won a title at middleweight. Now it's time to

1338
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: do it, and I think it was it was a

1339
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: good business mood. Let's find out for the For the

1340
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: Rhode Island native Luke, I don't say a lot of

1341
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: good things about Rhode Island coming from Connecticut. Rhode Island's

1342
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: like the Connecticut armpit. Right, but shout out to Boob Andre.

1343
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: This is the right path, This is the way Mandalorian.

1344
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Demetrius Andre and family guy the two greatest Rhode

1345
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: Island exports ever, all right, BC.

1346
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: Topic number one, go look Newport, Rhode Island is legit.

1347
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: I've never been to Rhode Island. I've never been.

1348
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Oh, it's got so much history. It's worth your time

1349
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: if you ever get the chance. All right.

1350
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather just I'd rather just get you Bola,

1351
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: all right. Topic number three. Anthony Joshua's got twenty twenty

1352
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: three plans. So here's what he is doing. BC will

1353
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: pitch you in just a second. In April, he wants

1354
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: a top fifteen opponent. In the summer he wants either

1355
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: Dillion White or Deontay Wilder allegedly. And then in autumn,

1356
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: so the fall he wants Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder.

1357
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Here's what hearn told the designed Boxing show off Our Boys,

1358
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: Ac and Brock. Quote Anthony Joshua and Canelo are in

1359
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: the works to announce the first slate of twenty twenty three.

1360
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: You're talking to two of the biggest names in boxing

1361
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: in Canelo when aj Aj is fighting a month earlier

1362
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: than Canelo, so he'll be pretty much ready to go

1363
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: with an announcement in a week or so. We know

1364
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: his date were down to three or four opponents that

1365
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: we're talking to, rumors of his new training team, and

1366
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: there will be a full announcement from Anthony Joshua on

1367
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: that he's in a great place and ready to start camp. Actually,

1368
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: I believe this week the camp will began. Honestly, I

1369
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: couldn't give Anthony Joshua an opponent he would turn down.

1370
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: It's more about the training team. You see your reaction

1371
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: to all of this news.

1372
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: I hope, you know, I hope that he's going to

1373
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: be this ambitious with this schedule and come back and

1374
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: fight three times in big names, and I like that

1375
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: even the April immediate comeback, they're saying no top fifteen opponents.

1376
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: So look, there's still a window here where Anthony Joshua

1377
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: can right the ship and maybe even improve in some ways,

1378
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: or at least try to hide further whatever deficiencies are there,

1379
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: and there are. He was always a guy who you know,

1380
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: was an athlete and came to the sport laid and

1381
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: is trying to lessen his typical robotic, powerful ways into

1382
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: more that of the smooth boxer. But what was evident

1383
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: in the Usk fights, particularly the second one, in my opinion,

1384
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: was just where was that flip of the switch to say, Okay,

1385
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: I can't out chest this chess master, right, I mean,

1386
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,479
Speaker 1: Usik is a is a rare breed in every sort

1387
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: of way, So let me lean on my strengths and

1388
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: be that destroyer and try to walk him down. And

1389
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: we were hoping the union with Robert Garcia, would you know,

1390
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: would produce that you know, Mexican American trainer, that Mexican

1391
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: style go to the body walked there. No, No, that

1392
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: wasn't that wasn't fully there. There wasn't a full commitment there.

1393
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: And you saw that, you know, rather regrettable but understandable

1394
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 1: to a degree, emotional meltdown of aj after the second

1395
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: USIIC loss, where he, you know, was the drunk guy

1396
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: at the wedding doing the unnecessary speech in commenteered the microphone.

1397
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: But if he takes a you know the hardest of

1398
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: hard looks in the mirror and realizes that in one

1399
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: to one degree he has done this before, he has

1400
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: reinvented himself before after disaster, which was not just the

1401
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: loss to Andy Ruiz, but if we remember all the

1402
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: chaos going on around him in his personal life heading

1403
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: into that US debut as well, which there was some

1404
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: legit stuff, remember when his father went after Eddie earned

1405
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: in the ring after I mean there was some some

1406
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: chaos going There is still time, but he has to

1407
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: look at his strengths and weaknesses in the in the

1408
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: most honest way possible and say, Okay, what can I

1409
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: realistically change. You know, there's only a couple super elite,

1410
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: world class pure boxers in this division Furian Usic, right,

1411
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean you know there's a couple other that can

1412
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: dabble and box for sure. I'm not trying to be

1413
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: a jerk here, but like, you can't out box either

1414
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: of those guys AJ, but the B plus the B

1415
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: level guys you can. So it's gotta be more of

1416
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: right temperament, right game plan at the right time. I

1417
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: don't know if Robert Garcia is the right pick. I

1418
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: don't even know if they're still together, Luke, I'm not

1419
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: up to the speed here, but I do think AJ

1420
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: has the right temperament to put this whole, to put

1421
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: Humpty dumpty back together and to still be in play

1422
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: for huge fights and title opportunities. I mean, imagine a world.

1423
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: Look at things would have to go perfect in twenty

1424
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: twenty three, but imagine a world in which the first

1425
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: third of the year, Fury and Usik fight for the

1426
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: undisputed championship. AJ comes back, it's a decent but tough test,

1427
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: and maybe Wilder fights Andrew Ruiz on pay per view

1428
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: to make you fired up. And what if the second

1429
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: third of the year sees Joshua and Wilder finally have

1430
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: their pay per view dance. And what if the final

1431
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: third is the either culmination or the beginning of the

1432
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: banging of the drum to finalize this we would already

1433
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: in that situation have an undisputed champion of the winner

1434
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: in Fury Usk. But I think we can all understand

1435
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: that Fury versus Joshua is still the biggest fight you

1436
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 1: can make in this division. We could still end up there,

1437
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: or at least on the way there to close the year.

1438
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: But AJ's got to be as ambitious as that he

1439
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: heard a saying, and he's got to go out there

1440
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: and improve and win these fights. Look, I still believe

1441
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: he can't. I'm harsh on him when it's necessary, but

1442
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: he's a courageous dude who has persevered in the past,

1443
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: gotten up off the canvas. Like dude Anthony Joshua can fight.

1444
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he beats Wilder, but you might

1445
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: as well go back in that direction and make one

1446
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: more run at it. You know what I'm saying, It's

1447
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: possible for you.

1448
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: Here's my thing, Like, I am skeptical that they're going

1449
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: to do all of this. It seems a little bit

1450
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: too ambitious, in part because they can't control everything as

1451
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: powerful as he is. As an a side. You know,

1452
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: you just don't know if your beside is going to

1453
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: get injured, or you know, if factors are getting involved

1454
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: in it could get in the way. They've They've planned

1455
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: out a lot that even with the best of intentions,

1456
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: are going to be hard to pull out. But I'll

1457
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: say this the one thing I do like about BC.

1458
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: You kind of hinted at it, but let me just

1459
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: sort of state in a different way, which is I

1460
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: think the second loss to Usick really hurt him, you know,

1461
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: mentally hurt him, which is understandable. He gave everything he

1462
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: had and it wasn't enough. Twice he licked his wounds,

1463
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: and he's now recharged to claim something back. After the

1464
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: hurt and the loss and the difficulty, He's still motivated.

1465
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: He still wants to do something big and grand and

1466
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: special and the kind of thing that gets you the

1467
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: adulation and the personal sense of accomplishment. Like he still

1468
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: is once more into the breach, dear friends. With his attitude,

1469
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that he has regrouped, put

1470
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: a plan in place. I want to do these I'm

1471
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: gonna set out. I'm going to declare it. Like when

1472
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: you make a plan for yourself, you have to write

1473
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: it down, you know, you have to kind of like

1474
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: many people do. Anyway, It's like a way to like

1475
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: bring it into life, you know, sign it into existence,

1476
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 2: so to speak. He's done that here. So you know,

1477
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: does he fight Deontay Wilder in his second fight of

1478
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: the year. I am skeptical that happens. But he's got

1479
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: him on the radar. He's out there trying. He's back

1480
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 2: at it. Let's see what kind of effort he produces.

1481
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: But for me, as someone who is an observer here,

1482
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: who is neither a fan nor a critic of aj

1483
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 2: in any kind of substantive way. I do like that

1484
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: he is putting the losses behind him as best he can,

1485
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: with this full throated attitude of let's go get what's

1486
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 2: out there to get.

1487
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1488
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: I do love that. I respect him.

1489
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 1: He's only thirty three. We do have to remember that, okay,

1490
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: and he's already accomplished a lot. I mean, you know,

1491
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: I just want to mention quickly the resume of like

1492
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: who he's actually beaten. Dillian White in which he rallied

1493
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: back after being hurt, Sir Charles Martin to win the belt,

1494
01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: Prince Charles Martin, Dominic Brazil Vladimir Klitch going which he

1495
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: got up off the canvas, Joseph Parker in a unification

1496
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: out boxed him Andy Ruiz in the rematch, Kubrat Pulev.

1497
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he has fought and beat the majority of

1498
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: the great names he's come up against, and there's still

1499
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: a chance, there's still a line for him to put

1500
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: himself in a spot to fight for the underspeted championship

1501
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: and repair everything. I mean, Luke, I've always compared him

1502
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: softly to Lennox Lewis from the same country, more or

1503
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: less same size, not the same fighter. But the greatest

1504
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: thing Lennox Lewis ever did was come back and beat

1505
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: the two guys who knocked him out in title fights

1506
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: by knocking them out in the rematch. So he beat

1507
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: everybody he faced and didn't duck anybody. Now, could he

1508
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: have rematched Vitali Klitschko after that final fight, I would

1509
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: have liked to have seen it. But he still won

1510
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: that fight. He still walked away. AJ can have that

1511
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: type of resume. Maybe never ends up beating Husick, and

1512
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: maybe even never ends up beating Fury, but he can

1513
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: still add to what has already been an incredible resume

1514
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: when you consider it again, he learned on the job.

1515
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: It's not a guy who grew up in a boxing gym, Okay,

1516
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: this guy who probably should have been playing American football

1517
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: when you look.

1518
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: At it, but or rugby or something else.

1519
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but come a long way and dude, just some

1520
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: slight adjustments. I mean, just for the record, by the way,

1521
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: I didn't score it that close, but he did. It

1522
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: was a split decision in the Ustig rematch. He was

1523
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: close to your point. He gave everything he had under

1524
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: that mindset of how he thought he was going to

1525
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: win it. I just think he's got to make some

1526
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: slight mental adjustments.

1527
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: Just me, just me, all right, fair enough, BC, We'll

1528
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: do some quick hitters here very quickly. Dylan Danis has

1529
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 2: pulled out of his fight against Ksi, which was scheduled

1530
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: for January fourteenth. Ksi is looking to reveal a new

1531
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: opponent this week. Apparently, according to U, I guess one

1532
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: of the guys who's involved with Misfits Boxing, which is

1533
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 2: the promotional arm of this whole thing, that Dylan Dannis

1534
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 2: was unprepared, not on weight, and not ready for it. Boy,

1535
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, can we finally put to bed?

1536
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 2: Dylan Danis Like he's clearly fucking with everyone. He's not

1537
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 2: serious about doing any of this shit. He never has been,

1538
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: he probably never will be. You know, media, I give

1539
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: you permission to stop giving him.

1540
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean I I did actually watch the

1541
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: entire lengthy in studio interview with Ariel, and and you're

1542
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Ariel fucking came out of him at times,

1543
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in ways where I'm like, yo, dude,

1544
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: you're still you're still talking to a fighter right there

1545
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: in person, But no, seriously, and I wanted to give

1546
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: him like a remaining thread of the benefit of the

1547
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: doubt when when Danis talks about the knee injuries that

1548
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: kept happening which kept him out of the cage, and yeah,

1549
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: he's a joke, but I'm gonna be honest. I was

1550
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: a sucker at first, at least for his persona online

1551
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: and as Connor's you know boy and and and you

1552
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: know master magician uh BJJ guy who can help get

1553
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: him up to speed. But yeah, it's been sad since then.

1554
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: And seeing him now pull out of this fight after

1555
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: purposely ducking the press conference and the excuses he gave

1556
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: Ariel about that, Yeah, dude, good right, it's it's over.

1557
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean I want, I want him to be a thing. Luke.

1558
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: I think he's fun to watch, but it's it's long.

1559
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: He's now you know, like when your favorite rock star,

1560
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, can't play arenas anymore, it can't play good

1561
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: theaters anymore, and then they're playing the Terryville Fair for free.

1562
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: That's why I saw Dicky Betts and everyone about the.

1563
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 2: Grappling game, due everyone talks about his grappling game and

1564
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: it is good BC, but like he hasn't he hasn't

1565
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: won a major title since brown Belt. I don't know

1566
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: if folks understand that he at brown belt he was

1567
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: one of the very best in the world and like

1568
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: one of those guys who was clearly going to take

1569
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: over a black belt had he stayed on that path.

1570
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: But folks, forget Marcello Garcia, the nicest man in all

1571
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: of jiu jitsu told him and is a buddy man.

1572
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: Sure Cara to go pound sand kicked him out. He

1573
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: went over to Unity BJJ, which is like a Marilla

1574
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: Santana event Jim, which is actually a very good gym.

1575
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, like he's just been all over the place,

1576
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: he's been a media hound for taking l's. Like, guys,

1577
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: you don't have to give him any coverage anymore, you don't.

1578
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: The days are over where he is a figure where

1579
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 2: this is the thing, all right. BC. Also, I don't know,

1580
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about this on the Jake Paul side,

1581
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: but Mike Perry apparently tweeted out a picture of a

1582
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: signed contract on his end to fight Jake Paul.

1583
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but did he create the contract himself? I was

1584
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: unclear by looking at it.

1585
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: Probably probably used like docu side or something, and it

1586
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 2: just got like a face. You can buy those things

1587
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: that like Staples, right, you can buy those contracts and

1588
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: then just like do mad lives with him and fill

1589
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: them in and then you can set him up.

1590
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you shot down the idea of cowboy Seroni

1591
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: juicing up in fighting Jake, and I do echo what

1592
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: we said in the past of like Jake was too

1593
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: good against Anderson now to see him just continue to

1594
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: fight welterweight MMA guys. Mike Perry is a different story

1595
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: because of the personality. But do you care? Would you

1596
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: be into this? Is there a market for Mike Perry

1597
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: versus Jake.

1598
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: Paul I like that one a little bit more than Serony.

1599
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: I like that one a little bit more than Serni.

1600
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: He's unrefined as a boxing talent himself, right, and he's

1601
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 2: still young. He hits fucking hard. He will have a dude,

1602
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: he won't have a boring fight.

1603
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: He just he's had a pro boxing fight before. I

1604
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: mean he but he's but the size difference though, Luke,

1605
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: it's it's big. It's big.

1606
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 3: Um.

1607
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wouldn't be cut and weight, it wouldn't

1608
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: be too too bad. Yeah, I'll say this, It's not

1609
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: my preferred choice. But I don't hate it as much

1610
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 2: as the Cowboy one.

1611
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: All right, all right?

1612
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: Uh? And then, last, but not least, here is some

1613
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: good news on a day where we don't have a

1614
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 2: whole lot of it. Per brett O Komodo vespn Shofcott

1615
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: Rockmanov is gonna fight Jeff Neil. That that fight had

1616
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: fallen through for the next couple of weeks, they just

1617
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: pushed it back. Be see, they're gonna have it on

1618
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: March fourth at two eighty five UFC two eighty five.

1619
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: Now it sucks and we have to wait that long

1620
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: to get it, but at least he's back on the calendar.

1621
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: If nothing else, he's back on the calendar. And we

1622
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 2: knew man listen when when when Neil fell out of

1623
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: that bout and rock Monov was left on that car. Dude,

1624
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: getting anybody to fight Shofcott Rockmanov is going to be difficult,

1625
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: especially on short notice. They were gonna have to pull

1626
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: him from the card no matter what they did. I

1627
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: don't I don't love it, but I definitely don't hate it,

1628
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 2: you know.

1629
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see it. Let's find out how good this

1630
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: guy is, Luke, because he he seems to be the goods.

1631
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: He seems to be the fucking yeah, he's the goods.

1632
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: Look all right, BC, I want to remind everyone our

1633
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: next partner. I don't know if you have your AG

1634
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: one in front of you, but you know it's something

1635
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Speaker 2: that we use every day because we have to, and

1636
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Speaker 2: when we don't, we pay for it. But athletic greens.

1637
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Speaker 2: You want better gut health, you want more energy. You

1638
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: don't want to take a bunch of vitamins and pills.

1639
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: You want just something that is naturally good for you,

1640
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: takes care of you in one glass of water. Folks

1641
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: can't do much better than AG one. It really is.

1642
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: No it's and look, how about you try to cut

1643
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: some corners in a good way. Look, I'm trying for

1644
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: this new year. I need these liver numbers to get better.

1645
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: So sometimes I ask myself, what are the micro habits

1646
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing that have big benefits? How am I starting

1647
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 1: my day? I'm starting my day with a scoop of

1648
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Speaker 1: this into water, eight ounces or so, mixing it up,

1649
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 1: and that's you know, non offensive citrus feel of the taste.

1650
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 1: I like it, but it's more about how it makes

1651
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: me feel the start where you know, seventy five high

1652
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Speaker 1: quality vitamins, minerals, whole food source, superfoods, probiotics, adaptagens. These

1653
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Speaker 1: are things looke that aren't always in my diet to

1654
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Speaker 1: start the day. But I know if I started the

1655
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: ag one way, Luke, I may end it. I may

1656
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: end it in a good way.

1657
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Speaker 2: You know, No, there's no doubt about it. It can't

1658
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Speaker 2: end but in anything but good things. Of course, as

1659
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Speaker 2: you mentioned, the seventy five high qualdry vittomins and minerals,

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Speaker 2: whole food source, super foods, probiotics, adaptogens, and of course

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Speaker 2: it's going to support your gut health, your nervous system,

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Speaker 2: your immune system, give you energy, recovery, focus and help

1663
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Speaker 2: even with something like me which is the aging factor.

1664
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Speaker 2: And by the way, Bce you know it look at

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Speaker 2: them and doing it right here. You can do it

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1667
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Speaker 2: when you come down to d sets. I think you're

1668
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Speaker 2: leaving tonight, bring some ag one with you, bro.

1669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will have an ag one party lifestyle friendly

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1673
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Speaker 1: artificial anything. I told you about the taste. How about

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Speaker 1: the price? Listen, three dollars a day and if you're

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Speaker 1: you know, waiting in line for that cold brew each day,

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Speaker 1: you already know what you're spending. Howbout you make that

1677
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Speaker 1: slight little change for the new year. That could be

1678
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Speaker 1: a new you. And it's one thing listening to wash

1679
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Speaker 1: forty year olds, Luke, but there's seven thousand people that

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1686
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Speaker 1: the reason why that slash is important is how about

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: the bonus of your first order five free travel packs

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01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: that we talked about and the one year supply of

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: immune supporting vitamin D. The drops it's perfect. Put them

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01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: in your drink. You'll feel better. Luke Athleticgreens dot com

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: slash Morning Combat. Do you think remember when Connor beat

1696
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: Eddie and he's like, all right if I fight again?

1697
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: I need I need a piece. I need stock. Do

1698
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: you think my reads have been so accurate, honest and

1699
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: enthusiastic that maybe I can get some of that ag

1700
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: one stock and be a partner stock.

1701
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you might be able to get

1702
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 2: some free product. How about that. I'm actually running low,

1703
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: so if anyone from ag one is watching, I need

1704
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: some more.

1705
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: I think you can afford three bucks a day. It's

1706
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: just my personal take on your financial portfolio.

1707
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: Luke. It could be true, but I don't want to

1708
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: pay for it if I don't have to.

1709
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Luke. You know what we do

1710
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 1: every Wednesday. We just didn't do it last week. We

1711
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: allow the fans to invade our home and give us

1712
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: their artwork and put it on our fridge and take

1713
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: pictures of themselves in tight T shirts. And Luke, it

1714
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: couldn't be any more of a fertile time to hold

1715
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 1: fan submissions by unleashing our email address of Morning Combat

1716
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com right into Mikey mooremiles in hole.

1717
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: And I know there's always debate about censorship in these parts,

1718
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: and damn, twenty twenty two ended with a tie for

1719
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: Donk of the Year? Was that the right choice? Whether

1720
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: there be a face off? Will they fight to the death? Luke?

1721
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't know these answers yet, but I do know

1722
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: that people like Danger Mouse, yes him, Jay Piquett, Appy,

1723
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: these heroes, Luke, They're willing to share their art with

1724
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: the world just to make fun of us. So I'm

1725
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: here for it. This one's called fan submission.

1726
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 2: This is normally if you see where I would pull

1727
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: out my vape, but I'm not vaping right now.

1728
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude? Is that because you know that provided so

1729
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: much comedic help in twenty twenty two. Yeah, but we

1730
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: want to see you take a health turn. Is it over?

1731
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: Is your relationship with vaping done?

1732
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: I can never say that it's done because I'm not

1733
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: totally on the other side of it. But i haven't

1734
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: vaped in a while and I'm no interest in vaping.

1735
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: So don't do it.

1736
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do it. We've got male viewers and a

1737
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: few female ones, so shout out to all of them, Luke,

1738
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: we have a bonus fan sub to start from one

1739
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: of our female viewers. It's Jen, Remember, from Bill and

1740
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: Jen and the RV. Luke. We don't have a photo

1741
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: to read, but remember when I called out for a

1742
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: wellness check to hear how they're doing. Jen heard that

1743
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: She heard that call, Luke. She reached out to Mikey Morrims.

1744
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: Here's what she said, Hi, friends, it's Jen here from

1745
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: Bill and Jen's RV Adventures. I know we've dropped off

1746
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: the traveling scene for a while, but we've been hanging

1747
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: out near Philadelphia and I was hoping you would do

1748
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: me a small favor. Sunday, January eighth is Bill's birthday.

1749
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: He's turning forty seven, Luke. She wanted to know if

1750
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: we could shot him out, and she also said side note,

1751
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: Bill wore the skull Luke Thomas Dead Christmas T shirt

1752
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: over the holidays, and I just got him the Fight

1753
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: Club T for his birthday. Oh maybe I shouldn't have

1754
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: read that out loud. Well, Luke, he may have merch

1755
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: in his future, but Sunday is Big old Bill's birthday.

1756
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: Do you have a nice, nice message to show. One

1757
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: of our original fixs is Luke. You know when you

1758
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: open a restaurant and your first customer comes in with

1759
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: that dollar bill and you frame it and you're like,

1760
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: those are my first motherfucking customers like for me, like webscreams,

1761
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: like like like capital P one he was like our first.

1762
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: Bill and Jen were like OG's in that regard right there.

1763
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: Day one shit with us, Okay, So yeah, happy birthday Bill, Bill.

1764
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's forty seven. Does he have hope to

1765
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: turn this around?

1766
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 5: Luke?

1767
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 2: No, he's washed, He's finished washed shit.

1768
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: But Bill and Jen, thanks for being a part of

1769
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: our extended family here. We have a lot of love

1770
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: for you. Hopefully we'll get back in the RV and

1771
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 1: hopefully Louke will wave out the Jersey City studio window

1772
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: like he once said. But he won't come out and

1773
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: see you, Okay, but if your world tour comes by

1774
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: our address sometime, Luke will wave to you.

1775
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1776
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: Let's start our real fan subs here with Peter. Peter,

1777
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, guys, happy holidays. I've been I'm sending

1778
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: in two pictures this week of me rocking my MK

1779
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: Christmas sweater. First is a pick of me by the

1780
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 1: tree at my friend's ugly Christmas sweater party.

1781
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

1782
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: The second is me with my friend Marissa wearing a

1783
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: sweater with Candy the female performer, and Lee wearing the

1784
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: black Santa sweater. I of course wore the ugliest sweater

1785
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: I could find while still being able to spread the

1786
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: good MK word. Congrats and all your achievements. Here's to

1787
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: a successful twenty twenty three. Luke, that ugly Christmas sweat

1788
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: on the right is a ten out of ten. Brother.

1789
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I gotta say all three of those are

1790
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: actually pretty good. Ours being the worst of them, but

1791
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: nevertheless still decent. The Black Santa is tremendous. And I

1792
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: got to say the barbie on the stripper pole about.

1793
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,919
Speaker 1: It Long Island, Luke, Queen zoom in for cable management purposes,

1794
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: but oh, that stripper on a pole is like you

1795
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: can touch it. It's like it's like a physical thing.

1796
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: Is that a barbie on it?

1797
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like it's some kind of barbie. It's

1798
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 2: all well done. This is an excellent This is a

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01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: group of three excellent Americans right here.

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01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: Dude, I didn't even know we sold that sweater in

1801
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: the middle that sweatshirt that Christmas one.

1802
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of goofy, which is perfect for this occasion.

1803
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Hey, Peter, thanks for representing and shout

1804
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: out to your friends there, Marissa and Lee. So well

1805
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: done there, let's go to manual. Hello, Brian and Luke.

1806
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,520
Speaker 1: Here's proof that not all MK fans are Jan sixers.

1807
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: This is me, the big and tall one right in

1808
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: the front of the tree, and my family trying to

1809
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: do our best Nate Diaz post shit even though they

1810
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on or even what is

1811
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: on their T shirts. Luke, You're not the only one

1812
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: with the family that does not care about MMA. But Luke,

1813
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: ps forgive my ESL level ingles.

1814
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 2: What does that mean glass English is the second language? Uh,

1815
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: he's saying his English isn't great.

1816
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: Look at this. So this is like that time that

1817
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: that Asian fan of ours went to that deli right

1818
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,879
Speaker 1: and had the host speaking another language.

1819
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 2: You know who looks the hardest in this picture? First

1820
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: of all, my man on the far right can.

1821
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Really get dude that look that looks like he's.

1822
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 2: Not the hardest looking one because he can really get

1823
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: his hands together, but he definitely looks like he's like

1824
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 2: bounced at a few clubs before. It's Abelo in the middle.

1825
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: Yo, dude in the middle knows where the bodies are buried.

1826
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my man, my man in the middle

1827
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: has quietly seen some ship. You know what I'm saying.

1828
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he's a survivor.

1829
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: That guy.

1830
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

1831
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to Jeremy Runner surviving that

1832
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: snowplow accident.

1833
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 2: Luke, I read about that ran over's fucking legs. Dude,

1834
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: that's money.

1835
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Got himself in a real life hurt locker.

1836
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: Did you see who found him? No, one of his

1837
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: neighbors found him. It just so happened that his neighbor

1838
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: was a doctor and I did like immediate trauma shit

1839
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: on the side of the road to save his life.

1840
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like a turn a kit with a shirt

1841
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, that's that's great. Manuel, thank you for

1842
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: getting your family involved in looking good this holiday season.

1843
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: We love that, even if they don't care. Let's go

1844
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,480
Speaker 1: to Ben, he says, what's up you to wash Pos's

1845
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I love the show and listen every week here's me

1846
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: enjoying a cup of Joe as you Sepos, which he

1847
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: says in parentheses. Look it up. Is that a slur? Luke?

1848
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: Did he call us a slur?

1849
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. My man's life is satire. I mean,

1850
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: look at this, call it.

1851
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: From my MK camp mug while I'm actually camping for

1852
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: Christmas with my wife and daughter down here on the

1853
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: west coast of the South Island in New Zealand BC.

1854
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: Your your lack of knowledge regarding all blacks and the

1855
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: hakka proves you really are a petrol station hot dog

1856
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 1: eating scumbag. And you guys really should do a reaction

1857
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: to some all blacks highlights. Keep up the great work.

1858
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: Your fresh takes in comedy have made you my number

1859
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: one since day one in the podcast game. Keep feeling

1860
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: those margaritas.

1861
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: I gotta say, are you camping or is camping another

1862
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 2: word for being homeless? I don't quite know the difference

1863
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: here this.

1864
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm being told that he called us

1865
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: a slur, Luke, and I read it out loud to

1866
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: apologize to everybody on that Maybe it's just maybe it's

1867
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: just Australian slang. But yeah, ah wow, look at his

1868
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: set up there, Luke. Now is he camping or is

1869
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: that where he lives? It's A. It's a, it's a.

1870
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 2: It's I'm saying, like, are you homeless or you know?

1871
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: What's the deal here? He got a lot of it's

1872
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: a very involved outdoor event. Whatever. This is all right?

1873
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 4: There you go, there, you go?

1874
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you think he has camping sex? Luke, I've

1875
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: heard it's fucking intense. My neighbor told me that dad joke.

1876
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: It's decent, right, it's not bad. It's not bad. I

1877
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: had to sell.

1878
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you to my they're a big, big fan

1879
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: of Anthony. All right, let's keep it going here. This

1880
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: is K Hey. I go by K. I doubt BC

1881
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: can pronounce my Korean name, Kangion. I watched the Colts

1882
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: get boat raced by the Giants, but at least I

1883
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: was also repping m K new Year, first fan sub dude,

1884
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: how about this guy k right.

1885
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 2: Bro loving the jacket ship is amazing. Sorry about your Colts,

1886
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,799
Speaker 2: but at least you look like a fucking baller shot collar,

1887
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: twenty inch rims on the impolar.

1888
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: You look like raffe on Statts, and I look like

1889
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: a badass, right damn Yeah, that's what I'm talking about there.

1890
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: Let's go over to Anthony and Blades on the rims.

1891
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: Is that Sean Price Luke or well, no.

1892
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: No, no, that's that's what's his face?

1893
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: That's uh Bushwick Bill.

1894
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: No, no, he is tep from Texas. But it's uh,

1895
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: it's not fat Pat, it's won't be uh baula shot

1896
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 2: kaula twenty inch blade. It's only im paula little Troy.

1897
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: As Mikey looked up for us, I think Bushwick Bill

1898
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: was actually from Brooklyn, Luke, even though the Ghetto Boys were.

1899
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: From Oh right first, but yeah, you get the idea.

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01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one's from Little Anthony and his wife, V

1901
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: says Hi, MK family, we wanted to send a quick

1902
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: video to express our gratitude for the Donk of the

1903
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 1: Year nomination and per BC's request, provide a life update.

1904
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: Happy New Year to our adopted MK family, Take good care.

1905
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: It's Little Anthony and V. Let's hear from him.

1906
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 5: Luke, Hey guy, Hey Luke and BC, you know who

1907
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 5: we are. To Anthony and V Anthony from Chicago, we

1908
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 5: wanted to send you a quick video to wish all

1909
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 5: of you guys a happy new Year and an amazing

1910
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. We also really appreciate you nominating us

1911
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 5: for Donk of the Year. We didn't win, but the

1912
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 5: nomination itself is amazing and it was so nice meeting

1913
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 5: you guys. Back in July, BC asked for an update,

1914
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 5: V do you want to tell him what we've been

1915
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 5: up to. We're still engaged, still engaged. She hasn't rescinded

1916
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 5: her yes yet. I cut my hair off a few

1917
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 5: weeks after a few weeks after Vegas, so so happily engaged.

1918
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 5: We're looking to buy a house in first quarter of

1919
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 5: next year, so we're really excited about that, and as promised,

1920
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 5: we'll be sure to take you guys along for the ride.

1921
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 5: So thanks again for the nomination. It means so much

1922
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 5: to us to be a part of this family, and

1923
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 5: we'll talk to you in the new year.

1924
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: Bye bye, dude. That was wholesome as shit, right.

1925
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: I was way too wholesome for this segment. I'm used

1926
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: to elder abuse and photoshops of me vaping in a

1927
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 2: men's room or something.

1928
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: It was a pleasure to meet them in Vegas. One

1929
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: of our greatest fans, the duo there not the fake

1930
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: owel or or that is the fake sold not the

1931
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: real one. Shout out to saw wool By the way,

1932
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: the big fan of that guy, but no, Little Anthony.

1933
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: Look that they've from the beginning, they've made MK a

1934
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,440
Speaker 1: part of their family journey. So congrats again on the engagement.

1935
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: Did you like how she had the one fit the

1936
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: one h nail painted red that had the ring on

1937
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: it and every other finger was painted white?

1938
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 5: Luke?

1939
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: Did you were you down with that?

1940
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

1941
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: Maybe the red had was like was like, you know, heart.

1942
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a representation of love and that's why

1943
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: the rings on there because Little Anthony put that ring

1944
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: on there, all right?

1945
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Could be? Could be?

1946
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Do you think you could take Joe Rogan in the

1947
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 1: poster or did I go.

1948
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Too far with that? Probably?

1949
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, A big fan of those guys. Hey, let's

1950
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: go to JP. We know Jay Piquette from Mount Uniac,

1951
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: I think is how they say it over there in

1952
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Nova Scotia. Uh proposal from Jay. I'm already married Ja,

1953
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, you know, I don't. I

1954
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: don't swap uh proposal with the closest Donk of the

1955
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 1: year race. Ever, it's time to separate the true legit

1956
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: donks super fans from the others. Sure we can all

1957
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: mock up graphics, memes and videos. But how well do

1958
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: you actually know the show who has put the time in.

1959
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: It's time to put down your crans, shut down your

1960
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: AI modules, and close the lid on your guitar case.

1961
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: My fellow donks. Wow, that's a subtweet at Appy right,

1962
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: featured during the live show February eighth, Morning Combat Trivia

1963
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Showdown aka Donk Off for the true, legit and undisputed

1964
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Donk of the Year. Hope you folks

1965
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: will entertain this, seeing as we'll have DM Appleton and

1966
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 1: myself there, it would be pretty epic, says Jay in

1967
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 1: the true holiday spirit. I present Bad Morning Combat Santa

1968
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: Love you guys, keep up the amazing award winning show.

1969
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's first check out that first one here.

1970
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 1: He has two memes. Look, the first one is the

1971
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: Jeopardy one. Can we slide back there? Long Island? Luke, So, Luke.

1972
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: His proposal is some form of trivia showdown in London

1973
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: to truly decide the Donk of the Year. I would

1974
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: ask you if you like that idea, but you have

1975
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: told me before that as much as you love our fans,

1976
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: you actually don't care if they live or die tour false.

1977
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've said they care they live

1978
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 2: or die, but I feel like Showtime's probably gonna say

1979
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: this is a no no, you know that's.

1980
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: He put Danger Mouse up there too. Who do you

1981
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: think would actually win this trivia challenge? Luke Appy or

1982
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 1: JP JP?

1983
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: He looks like he's got like psychotic details memorized.

1984
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Are you down with uh uh Luke Trebek?

1985
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 5: Hair?

1986
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 4: With the vape?

1987
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: R I plu?

1988
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing with the vape? And

1989
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 2: by the way, I've got the vape on backwards, like

1990
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: put the you gotta put the other side in my face.

1991
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: But whatever, Let's go to the second meme here from

1992
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 1: JP bad Morning Combat SAMD.

1993
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 2: Jesus with the margaritas. Yeah, this is pretty good. Mikey

1994
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 2: Appleton fan sub editor more mile that's pretty good too.

1995
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: Why does Mikey look like he sells fucking, you know,

1996
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 2: shitty jewelry somewhere in the diamond? I mean, what is

1997
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 2: why does he look like that?

1998
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: By the way, his uncle does that for living? I

1999
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: bought my wife's engagement ring from shout out to Uncle

2000
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: Raj Yes Brian Factory Town, Deadliver Campbell, donk of Oh

2001
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 1: look at it is that Appleton as a baby with

2002
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: me holding him as an elf?

2003
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's questionable, but quality over quantity, lads.

2004
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the right turns only reference down there?

2005
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 2: Luke?

2006
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:31,759
Speaker 1: Where next to the uncensored stickers Christmas?

2007
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, remember my my And by the way,

2008
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 2: the remote wasn't even that cool. It was just a

2009
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: single button. It was a fucking single button on a

2010
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 2: fucking piece of shit remote. Yeah, that's what it was. God,

2011
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 2: that is sad.

2012
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: Memory JP does not miss when it comes attention to detail.

2013
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 2: Luke. No, it's pretty good, I have to admit. Also

2014
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 2: bad Santa BC. I cannot believe you've not seen it yet.

2015
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still need to get on that. I get

2016
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of d ms from the from the donks

2017
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 1: out there telling me I should Hey, let's go to

2018
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: Danger Luke. I'm sure he's going to be upset with us,

2019
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: and people would argue that he has a right to

2020
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: First of all, before I read his message, did Jinger

2021
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: mouse get shifted true or false?

2022
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: A little? Maybe? I understand. I understand the complaints. I

2023
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: don't think they're crazy.

2024
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: All right, here's Danger Mouse. I'd like to wish Luke,

2025
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: the crew and all the regular MK donks a happy

2026
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: New Year. Not you, though, Campbell. After that shitty Donk

2027
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: of the Year piece you did, you can, in the

2028
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: words of mister Thomas, suck my balls. I gave you

2029
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: seven months of week after week fan submissions, totaling over

2030
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: one hundred individual pieces, so many in fact, I was

2031
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: given my own allotted slot at the end of the

2032
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: fan subs. The donk who gave you your best selling

2033
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: piece of MK merch, the hog t shirt. Dude, that

2034
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 1: was a danger Mouse original. You're serious, Luke.

2035
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that, but I guess it is.

2036
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the only donk who Luke feared to quote

2037
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: from the Wednesday show following his drunken live show antics

2038
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: when he heard my name, Oh god, he is going

2039
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: to kill me all and I got an honorable mention.

2040
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: It's okay, though, because the MK fans in the chat

2041
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: know who the real Dunk of the Year is and

2042
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: lit up my screen with my name. So thanks to

2043
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: all you guys. They did go to bat to him,

2044
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Luke in that racist and misogynistic sewer that's called our

2045
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: live chat, the real Pea Ones, Luke, They went to

2046
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: bat for him. Right. As for you, Campbell, I was

2047
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: nice to you last year. I don't give you anywhere

2048
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: near the abuse I give Luke. Well, bitch, Campbell, I'm

2049
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: putting you on official notice. Gloves are off. No quarter given.

2050
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 1: The People's Donk of the Year is coming for you.

2051
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and there's another. Here's another money Lion winner meme.

2052
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: And congratulations to Ilia to.

2053
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 2: Pour you pretty good, pretty good.

2054
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: You know, Luke, he brought receipts BC.

2055
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 2: I gotta say, you got some big ass titties.

2056
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, p meetloaf. Oh you haven't seen Fight Club yet? Unbelievable,

2057
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: unbelievably Yeah I do. I've got a nice rack there, Luke.

2058
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 1: I will say this, it was of our people so much.

2059
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: It was really hard to narrow to five nominations. And

2060
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 1: we had actually some like spirited debates about that about

2061
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: who should be and who should be out and and

2062
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 1: I I apparently missed Alan W's art work until I

2063
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: was reminded of that, So I forgot that Danger Mouse

2064
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 1: did do the uh the the uh the mk hub

2065
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: idea as well. Luke, that actually became a shirt that

2066
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: you can still buy. There's the gross link. Below, which

2067
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,839
Speaker 1: is our best seller in the history of our merch website,

2068
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 1: which says a lot about our friggin fans.

2069
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

2070
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: But you know I'm the ringleader, Luke, So I got

2071
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: to stand up and own this. Yeah, I guess if

2072
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: I could extend it to a six nomination, Luke, the

2073
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 1: people have spoken. I got it wrong, all right, Danger

2074
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: Mouse for life DM. You know, you know, maybe maybe

2075
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: I was a victim of of of you know, he

2076
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: didn't have his best stuff at the end of the

2077
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: year and I forgot, you know, so maybe that's on him, Luke.

2078
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 2: A lot happened last year, and we washed a lot

2079
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: of it away with Delta eight garmies.

2080
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 1: So let's see we did our own version of sports

2081
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: washing on a regular basis. Let's go to Jesse. Hey, lads,

2082
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: it's a p one from New Zealand. Been meaning to

2083
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: send in a fan sub for a long time. Finally

2084
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: got around to it, inspired by the great film shot

2085
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: here in New Zealand. Love the show, congrats and all

2086
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: your success you old wash cucks. Much love it's Jesse. Wow, Luke,

2087
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: look at this Lord of the Vape. We haven't got

2088
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: Chuck involved, and they got alien Joanna in there too.

2089
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, that's pretty good. I like how Minden

2090
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: Hall's back.

2091
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,799
Speaker 1: There is that Jake Paul too next to Dana.

2092
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Oh it looks that way. But I gotta say, I'm

2093
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: trying to take away the vape jokes, trying to clean

2094
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: my life up.

2095
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: Well, let's not ever let the jokes die. Let's just

2096
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 1: prevent you from.

2097
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Don Okay, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair.

2098
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Let's keep Jesse in our thoughts. Too, well done, sir.

2099
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Let's move on here to the aforementioned Alan W Happy

2100
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: New Year's gentlemen. I've decided to go arting over the

2101
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: New Year weekend. The first one is a post Impressionist

2102
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: piece dubbed Lucas van Guah.

2103
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 2: Jesus, that looks good. That does look real good. I'm

2104
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 2: not nearly that handsome. This must you know what this is?

2105
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 2: They put the van Go thing. They put the Van

2106
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 2: Gogo painting behind, which is what starry night, what everyone?

2107
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: That is? They put it behind the Lensa app. You

2108
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 2: ever used the lensa app? No, so everyone was paying.

2109
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 2: They had to pay like ten bucks and you could

2110
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 2: use this app and an AI like engine would like

2111
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 2: render you like artistic work with your likeness in it,

2112
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 2: and I'm guessing he paid for that.

2113
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: That's that's well done. His second one is a surrealist

2114
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: piece dubbed BC Dolly Inception.

2115
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Speaker 2: Now that is fucking awesome. Damn, dude, had like he

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Speaker 2: got butterflies. Mighty Posa's on the end of that shit.

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Speaker 2: Look do your eyes look like you are in a

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01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: fucking emo band in the nineties or some shit. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a great hair day too, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Your hairs look I think they use the lens app

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Speaker 2: for that one too.

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Speaker 1: I mean I could be a member of the Cure

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Speaker 1: looking like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Boys don't cry, Yeah, boys.

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Speaker 1: Don't cry Fridays. Yeah, okay. Our third one is Brian

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Speaker 1: Lisa's smile. He loves his gas station junk food, but

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Speaker 1: he knows his fatty liver is rebelling.

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Speaker 4: This is this is very true.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was Mona Lisa's smile. Brian Lisa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Oh, that is fucking awesome. That is great, dude.

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Speaker 2: My daughter discovered cheetos the other day. She discovered cheetahs,

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Speaker 2: and now it's all she wants to eat is cheetos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's yeah, yeah, I mean, they're great, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make any Cheeto finger where jokes

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Speaker 1: or get the reddits after us. But they're fantastic cheetos.

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Speaker 2: They are delicious. Yeah, yeah, they.

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Speaker 1: Are all right, Luke. Finally we've got David A you

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Speaker 1: know him as the co as for at least for now,

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Speaker 1: the code Donk of the Year for twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: But we're still revisiting ideas. David Appleton says, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: following Friday's award show, I felt you may be interested

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01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: to know the roller coaster of emotions I went through.

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01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: At first, I was a static, as evidenced by my

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01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 1: victory speech. So look, apparently he said in a victory

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01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: speech which we I don't know. There was a failure

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01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,879
Speaker 1: of communication. We didn't read it all right, but he says, However,

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01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: when it started to sink in, I realized I was

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01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 1: a mere codonk. I'd been betrayed. Man. People hate me.

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01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: Forget the ten point must system. You boys are giving

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01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: out ten tens now. Added to that, your blatant snub

2152
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: of Danger Mouse led to a near riot in the

2153
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: MK chat, taking the shine off my victory. But there

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01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 1: is still hope. I accept the challenge of a donk

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01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 1: off with JP and why not Danger Mouse bipopular demand

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01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: as well on February eighth. But as you'll see here,

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01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: you boys nearly lost me. Here is a gentle reminder

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01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: of why I should have walked away with the title

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01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: on my own. The choice of song is a private

2160
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 1: joke between me and the seven other dogs who listened

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01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: to BC's live chat. Okay, that was a good one.

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01:39:47,560 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 4: Let's hear the video.

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01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: They knows Jus said a word.

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01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:06,879
Speaker 3: Why by see.

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Speaker 2: You don't know mag.

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01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 1: They know jeeves to look.

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01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,959
Speaker 5: At him, can't cry see.

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Speaker 1: He's not listening anyhow.

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01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 2: I wish thee something.

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Speaker 1: You are seeing.

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01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 3: Try back to m King, but look never answers Matt.

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01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm resigning wit.

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Speaker 3: Doctor twice the shock, and I know you saying as

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Speaker 3: your mouse.

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01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 2: That's great me.

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01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 3: Just doctor. I don't think he's a worthy successors a

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Speaker 3: web screen.

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Speaker 2: A little ante you guys pissed.

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Speaker 1: I want the podcast or.

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Speaker 3: Will unte But I didn't with outright as I turned

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01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 3: into with a bote, I did not archie for it

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Speaker 3: back in.

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Speaker 4: My uncle, don't think twice shake.

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Speaker 2: I contempt to either come.

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Speaker 1: Down every year.

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Speaker 2: I want to say take me down the web screen

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01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 2: and both the spear, but.

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Speaker 3: So hot, give JP and don't so fury I'm doing

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01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 3: coming up.

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01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 5: Just get.

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01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 3: Sorry JP, dull Danger Mouse. It's just business.

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Speaker 1: Look look, Ilo, you lamented about the length of it.

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01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: That's damn that's brilliant. I mean, that is so good.

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01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty good. It's pretty good. I have to

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01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 2: admit a little long, like you said, you know, I'm

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01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: gonna tied it up a little bit there, but it

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Speaker 2: was clever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this means our twenty twenty three

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01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 1: fans of you know, submissions which play do play a

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01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: big part in the in the Donk of the Year voting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that means we're already on fire

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01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 1: to start the year, or maybe this competition is still going. Luke,

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01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, are you willing to take part in any

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01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 1: form of this even if we can't do it at

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01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 1: the live show?

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01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 2: Luke, I don't, I don't, Yeah, of course, I mean

2207
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 2: again for the live show stuff, it's not my call.

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01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a showtime call.

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Speaker 1: But but well, to be fair, we only have ninety

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01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: minutes on the live show. We're expecting to present some

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01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 1: some quality guests, and uh, it's gonna be hard to

2212
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 1: make everything work and we're still in the planning stages

2213
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: in many ways, but we'll figure it out. And uh, man, dude,

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01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: I hate ties too. I hate ten ten rounds. I

2215
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: hate when people kiss their sister, Luke, especially open mouthed.

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01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 1: But if these guys just showed you today again why

2217
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: they are who they are. And yes I was wrong

2218
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: on Danger Mouse, so much love out to him and

2219
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Allen W and everyone else. But now when he says

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01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm coming on February eighth, I do I'm a little

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01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: fearful of that coming out of Appy's mouth.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he is a wild card, you know, but

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01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 2: I guess if he can make it across borders.

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01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: So that should be the test for anybody that's misgivings

2225
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: about Appy. If he could get through customs, all right,

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01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: then he's you know, he's cleared by me.

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01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 2: Right yeah. Basically, like, if you can get through, if

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01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 2: Interpol doesn't stop you, I guess you're okay.

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01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Carmen san diego over here, Luke. That's all

2230
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 1: the live or sorry the fan subs. I've got Morning

2231
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: Combat at gmail dot com if you want to take part.

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01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 1: Mikey Mormol will be your censor because Luke, as always,

2233
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 1: JP sent other stuff and they had a ban that

2234
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: shake because it was so aggressive. It was like it

2235
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: was like the movie Porky's mixed with the Stroweight Division.

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01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 2: I saw it not great, not great, not great.

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01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 1: So JP gets, you know, remembered as this wholesome husband,

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01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 1: which I'm sure he is great guy, but you know

2239
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: that guy can go in the gutter too, like Appy

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Speaker 1: can to get good content as well. So thank you

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01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 1: guys for being ourp ones.

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01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 4: We love you all very much.

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01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: Don't kill us.

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01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 2: All right, There you have it. That was today's show

2245
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 2: and epic one just the same. U BC is gonna

2246
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 2: be are you are you flying down today? What what

2247
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 2: are you doing?

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01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll be flying down at some point this calendar day, Luke.

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Speaker 1: And tomorrow morning or tomorrow it was it afternoon.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I just got a text tomorrow morning.

2252
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna do fighter meetings at like nine

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01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 2: in the morning.

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01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you have to share it like our itinerary publicly.

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Speaker 1: I was basically saying there was this already an announced

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01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: schedule time for tomorrow's way in that people can watch

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01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: on the Showtime Sports YouTube channel. That will be you

2258
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: and I hosting. I'm not the way and excuse me.

2259
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: The press const the final press conference, Gervonte, Davis, Hector,

2260
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 1: Luis Garcia, Boots Ennis, you know everybody on this card,

2261
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: Dimitrius Andre across the board. So yeah, Luke, hopefully we'll

2262
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: get some MK turnout here and we'll continue banging the

2263
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 1: drum for these very good fights. But you know, we

2264
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 1: dealt with a lot of hard topics today, Luke. Not

2265
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna agree, and that's fine, but I hope people

2266
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 1: think about some things. Okay, that's what you really got

2267
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: to You really got to look inward.

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01:45:59,080 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 2: I hope they do as well. Reminder, of course, we

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01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 2: see all the things you said there. Showtime dot Com

2271
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 2: slash PPV for the pay per view, but Showtime dot

2272
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 2: Com for a thirty day free trial if you want

2273
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 2: to give it, give it a go. He'll get your

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01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 2: first six months for three ninety nine right there. Of course,

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01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 2: Morningcombat dot Store for the merch house, so to speak.

2276
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 2: Tons of good stuff there as well. Morning Coombat at

2277
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: gmail dot com is the place to reach us, reach

2278
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 2: the show for anything that might be valuable that you

2279
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 2: need to reach the show for, whether it's a dead

2280
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 2: wrong or anything else. You will see BC and I

2281
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 2: tomorrow at the press conference. We will be there. You

2282
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 2: can catch it on the Showtime YouTube channel. Will be

2283
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 2: there at Showtime Sports. I believe we'll be there for that,

2284
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, and then of course MK Live from

2285
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 2: DC on Friday for Brian Campbell, for Malka for CBS

2286
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 2: Sports and Showtime. I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you guys

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and until then, may all of your gains be

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Speaker 2: loyal