1 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:19,835 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:21,635 --> 00:00:26,795 Speaker 1: Only Marjorie Taylor Green would be stupid enough to publicly 3 00:00:26,835 --> 00:00:30,315 Speaker 1: demand a national divorce in which the country separates by 4 00:00:30,355 --> 00:00:33,955 Speaker 1: red states and blue states, as she did yesterday without 5 00:00:33,955 --> 00:00:38,675 Speaker 1: ever realizing that she lives in a blue state which 6 00:00:38,675 --> 00:00:42,395 Speaker 1: has two Democratic senators. And she lives in a blue 7 00:00:42,395 --> 00:00:46,195 Speaker 1: state five of whose last eight governors since the end 8 00:00:46,235 --> 00:00:49,035 Speaker 1: of Jim Crow have been Democrats. And she lives in 9 00:00:49,075 --> 00:00:53,595 Speaker 1: a blue state which has two Democratic senators now and 10 00:00:53,755 --> 00:00:55,995 Speaker 1: eight out of the last fourteen. And she lives in 11 00:00:56,115 --> 00:01:00,955 Speaker 1: a blue state which long ago tried for a national 12 00:01:01,035 --> 00:01:04,115 Speaker 1: divorce and instead of that, got its top city burned 13 00:01:04,155 --> 00:01:07,275 Speaker 1: to the ground and suffered economic losses amounting to in 14 00:01:07,315 --> 00:01:11,475 Speaker 1: today's money, a billion and a half dollars. But you 15 00:01:11,555 --> 00:01:16,955 Speaker 1: do you, Marge, divorce away. Maybe you can then move 16 00:01:17,035 --> 00:01:19,995 Speaker 1: to somewhere in the new Confederacy. But I expect they 17 00:01:19,995 --> 00:01:25,155 Speaker 1: will not be taking immigrants now. You may think the 18 00:01:25,195 --> 00:01:28,395 Speaker 1: only reason that Barney Rubble's body double could repose a 19 00:01:28,515 --> 00:01:31,075 Speaker 1: national divorce when she is on the wrong side of 20 00:01:31,075 --> 00:01:34,635 Speaker 1: her own fence is that the trauma of her personal 21 00:01:34,715 --> 00:01:38,635 Speaker 1: life is suddenly bleeding into her political stances. But I 22 00:01:38,675 --> 00:01:41,555 Speaker 1: think what we saw here was one of those moments 23 00:01:41,555 --> 00:01:44,995 Speaker 1: in which somebody has simply had too much Fox News 24 00:01:45,315 --> 00:01:48,995 Speaker 1: pumped into them over the years, and they suddenly explode 25 00:01:48,995 --> 00:01:54,715 Speaker 1: where they resounding fatal salvo of imbecility. Marjorie Taylor Green 26 00:01:55,275 --> 00:02:00,115 Speaker 1: does not understand that conservatives and fascists and Republicans are 27 00:02:00,195 --> 00:02:03,435 Speaker 1: not in the majority in this country, nor that she 28 00:02:03,595 --> 00:02:07,235 Speaker 1: is not currently in a red state, nor that Georgia 29 00:02:07,275 --> 00:02:11,275 Speaker 1: gets around twenty billion dollars more from the federal government 30 00:02:11,315 --> 00:02:14,435 Speaker 1: every year than its residents pay into the federal government 31 00:02:14,435 --> 00:02:18,035 Speaker 1: every year. Nor does she understand that she doesn't really 32 00:02:18,075 --> 00:02:22,355 Speaker 1: know how to spell or speak American English. And of 33 00:02:22,395 --> 00:02:26,035 Speaker 1: course all those things are or are not true. She 34 00:02:26,235 --> 00:02:30,075 Speaker 1: was raised on Fox News, which brings me to my point. 35 00:02:30,675 --> 00:02:33,715 Speaker 1: It is time for us as a country to address 36 00:02:33,755 --> 00:02:38,115 Speaker 1: the danger Fox News represents, to act swiftly and decisively 37 00:02:38,195 --> 00:02:42,035 Speaker 1: against Fox News, to d platform it, and to in 38 00:02:42,115 --> 00:02:48,155 Speaker 1: fact destroy it. Yesterday, after several hints and even more 39 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:51,035 Speaker 1: leaks over a couple of days, Fox News confirmed that 40 00:02:51,115 --> 00:02:53,835 Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Kevin McCarthy, has 41 00:02:53,835 --> 00:02:58,915 Speaker 1: given Tucker Carlson forty one thousand hours of January sixth 42 00:02:59,035 --> 00:03:03,635 Speaker 1: Capital Surveillance and Security video, And McCarthy has given it 43 00:03:03,675 --> 00:03:07,275 Speaker 1: to Carlson X inclusively, And McCarthy has done so without 44 00:03:07,355 --> 00:03:12,275 Speaker 1: consultation with House colleagues, without hearings, without any authority other 45 00:03:12,315 --> 00:03:15,315 Speaker 1: than his own belief that since the January sixth committee 46 00:03:15,315 --> 00:03:18,275 Speaker 1: was run by the House of Representatives, all footage that 47 00:03:18,275 --> 00:03:22,155 Speaker 1: that committee obtained and did not release is his to 48 00:03:22,355 --> 00:03:25,675 Speaker 1: do with as he pleases, and how he pleases. Is 49 00:03:25,715 --> 00:03:28,235 Speaker 1: to turn this video, which will give the plotters of 50 00:03:28,275 --> 00:03:31,195 Speaker 1: the next attempted coup and the next attempt to hang 51 00:03:31,195 --> 00:03:33,835 Speaker 1: a vice president, and the next attempt to overthrow the 52 00:03:33,835 --> 00:03:37,555 Speaker 1: government of the United States, an exact roadmap to the 53 00:03:37,595 --> 00:03:41,875 Speaker 1: location of every security camera, and every emergency facility, and 54 00:03:41,955 --> 00:03:45,235 Speaker 1: every emergency door and room in the entirety of the 55 00:03:45,315 --> 00:03:50,915 Speaker 1: US capital complex. And Kevin McCarthy might as well have 56 00:03:51,035 --> 00:03:54,795 Speaker 1: handed it to the Russian ambassador to the United States. 57 00:03:55,715 --> 00:04:01,795 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is probably not an actual Russian asset. He 58 00:04:01,995 --> 00:04:05,715 Speaker 1: is probably doing their work as a hobby, but he 59 00:04:05,795 --> 00:04:08,355 Speaker 1: might as well be one. He is not loyal to 60 00:04:08,395 --> 00:04:11,075 Speaker 1: this country, nor to any aspect of how it is governed. 61 00:04:11,435 --> 00:04:13,995 Speaker 1: He does not approve of how its leaders are elected. 62 00:04:14,275 --> 00:04:16,555 Speaker 1: He has no interest in making sure that money and 63 00:04:16,635 --> 00:04:20,715 Speaker 1: power cannot crush the week at every turn. There is 64 00:04:20,755 --> 00:04:24,835 Speaker 1: to Tucker Carlson no concept of truth, nor of law, 65 00:04:25,555 --> 00:04:30,315 Speaker 1: nor of decency. There is one touchstone, only how much 66 00:04:30,475 --> 00:04:35,315 Speaker 1: can Tucker Carlson get away with. Tucker Carlson is loyal 67 00:04:35,315 --> 00:04:39,275 Speaker 1: to only one thing. Tucker Carlson, He is dedicated to 68 00:04:39,315 --> 00:04:42,995 Speaker 1: only one thing. The vendetta he has had against liberals 69 00:04:43,035 --> 00:04:47,475 Speaker 1: in particular, but honestly against America in general, since he 70 00:04:47,515 --> 00:04:52,555 Speaker 1: was fired first by CNN, then by PBS, then by MSNBC, 71 00:04:52,755 --> 00:04:56,755 Speaker 1: and then when he was first marginalized by Fox News 72 00:04:56,795 --> 00:04:59,355 Speaker 1: before it finally gave him the power he demanded from 73 00:04:59,355 --> 00:05:04,395 Speaker 1: it in two thousand sixteen. Handing him video footage of 74 00:05:04,435 --> 00:05:07,555 Speaker 1: the who attempt so he can give away all the 75 00:05:07,635 --> 00:05:10,835 Speaker 1: security secrets of the capital and so he can use 76 00:05:10,915 --> 00:05:14,435 Speaker 1: his immense propaganda platform to try to rewrite the history 77 00:05:14,475 --> 00:05:17,475 Speaker 1: of the insurrection he and the other vermin of Fox 78 00:05:17,515 --> 00:05:22,235 Speaker 1: News successfully helped to foment is like handing him a 79 00:05:22,275 --> 00:05:26,875 Speaker 1: series of pipe bombs. It will never occur to Tucker Carlson, 80 00:05:26,955 --> 00:05:29,715 Speaker 1: not for a second, to try to dispose of them 81 00:05:29,755 --> 00:05:32,715 Speaker 1: safely and properly. He will only think about who he 82 00:05:32,715 --> 00:05:38,515 Speaker 1: can metaphorically kill with them metaphorically for him, less metaphorically 83 00:05:38,675 --> 00:05:42,235 Speaker 1: for others, others who will see the video, which a 84 00:05:42,275 --> 00:05:44,915 Speaker 1: federal court ruled two years ago, should largely be held 85 00:05:44,915 --> 00:05:48,115 Speaker 1: back or at least distributed only after a careful review 86 00:05:48,355 --> 00:05:50,515 Speaker 1: to make sure that each frame of it does not 87 00:05:50,635 --> 00:05:55,235 Speaker 1: jeopardize still more law enforcement officers or congressman or senators 88 00:05:55,355 --> 00:06:01,275 Speaker 1: or staffers or you know, vice presidents. Instead, it will 89 00:06:01,315 --> 00:06:06,435 Speaker 1: be in the hands of Tucker car Wilson to decide 90 00:06:06,955 --> 00:06:12,315 Speaker 1: what does and does not become public, because Tucker Carlson believes, 91 00:06:12,555 --> 00:06:16,555 Speaker 1: in a very real sense that he is supposed to 92 00:06:16,555 --> 00:06:20,235 Speaker 1: be running this country, maybe not running it in the 93 00:06:20,275 --> 00:06:23,595 Speaker 1: way you or I understand the term, maybe not even 94 00:06:23,635 --> 00:06:26,835 Speaker 1: in the way that Trump understands it. After an election 95 00:06:26,875 --> 00:06:30,835 Speaker 1: which you have to win or falsely loudly claim you 96 00:06:30,875 --> 00:06:35,315 Speaker 1: did win. Tucker Carlson does not believe in such obstructions 97 00:06:35,355 --> 00:06:38,955 Speaker 1: to and formalities about what really matters in this country, 98 00:06:39,035 --> 00:06:46,835 Speaker 1: which is what Tucker Carlson wants. Last week's revelations from 99 00:06:46,835 --> 00:06:49,755 Speaker 1: the dominion defamation lawsuit were numerous enough to have a 100 00:06:49,755 --> 00:06:53,235 Speaker 1: new Netflix series based on them. Hell twelve new series, 101 00:06:53,275 --> 00:06:56,435 Speaker 1: hell hundred new series, Hell never mind new Netflix series. 102 00:06:56,595 --> 00:06:59,475 Speaker 1: There were enough to create a new Netflix with nothing 103 00:06:59,515 --> 00:07:03,115 Speaker 1: but dramas based on the texts and the emails Carlson 104 00:07:03,195 --> 00:07:06,235 Speaker 1: and Laura Ingram and Seawan Nity and Rupert Murdoch and 105 00:07:06,275 --> 00:07:10,195 Speaker 1: the others sent each other. But the most relevant of 106 00:07:10,275 --> 00:07:14,515 Speaker 1: all of that correspondence remains Carlson's reaction after a Fox 107 00:07:14,555 --> 00:07:19,035 Speaker 1: reporter tweeted that there was no evidence of voting machines 108 00:07:19,235 --> 00:07:25,075 Speaker 1: altering or deleting Republican votes. Quote please get her fired, 109 00:07:25,675 --> 00:07:30,355 Speaker 1: Carlson texted to Shawn Hannity, Seriously, what the blank. I'm 110 00:07:30,435 --> 00:07:36,555 Speaker 1: actually shocked. It needs to stop immediately. It's measurably hurting 111 00:07:37,755 --> 00:07:45,755 Speaker 1: the company. The stock price is down. That's it, in 112 00:07:45,875 --> 00:07:50,675 Speaker 1: just twenty six words. That's all Tucker Carlson knows understands 113 00:07:51,395 --> 00:07:55,235 Speaker 1: were values in this world. And the Speaker of the 114 00:07:55,235 --> 00:07:59,435 Speaker 1: House of Representatives has handed this creature forty one hours 115 00:07:59,435 --> 00:08:03,235 Speaker 1: of January six surveillance video to do with as he pleases, 116 00:08:04,195 --> 00:08:07,715 Speaker 1: and guess what the Department of Justice should take Fox 117 00:08:07,875 --> 00:08:10,875 Speaker 1: and Carlson and the Speaker of the House to court 118 00:08:11,475 --> 00:08:15,075 Speaker 1: and attempt to get a temporary restraining order to prevent 119 00:08:15,115 --> 00:08:17,635 Speaker 1: the revelation of one frame of that video, and then 120 00:08:17,635 --> 00:08:20,555 Speaker 1: a permanent restraining order. The Attorney General should launch an 121 00:08:20,555 --> 00:08:23,995 Speaker 1: inquiry into which laws Speaker McCarthy has broken in his 122 00:08:24,155 --> 00:08:27,915 Speaker 1: unilateral action about the video release. And the Democrats and 123 00:08:27,995 --> 00:08:30,995 Speaker 1: the Liberals and the media pressure groups and the boycotters, 124 00:08:31,075 --> 00:08:35,875 Speaker 1: and more importantly you and I we should all make 125 00:08:35,955 --> 00:08:39,995 Speaker 1: every noise we can to get Direct TV to stop 126 00:08:40,195 --> 00:08:44,555 Speaker 1: carrying Fox News, and to get Verizon to stop carrying 127 00:08:44,635 --> 00:08:48,235 Speaker 1: Fox News, and Comcast and Dish and Cox and every 128 00:08:48,235 --> 00:08:51,555 Speaker 1: satellite provider and every cable provider and every Internet provider. 129 00:08:52,595 --> 00:08:56,395 Speaker 1: I believe the word is d platform. I mean, right now, 130 00:08:56,475 --> 00:08:59,235 Speaker 1: the forces of fascism in this country and the propaganda 131 00:08:59,235 --> 00:09:02,795 Speaker 1: outlets they control, have already succeeded in creating a completely 132 00:09:02,835 --> 00:09:07,035 Speaker 1: fictitious narrative in which the news Max channel, which is 133 00:09:07,075 --> 00:09:09,355 Speaker 1: like Fox News but for those addicts who do not 134 00:09:09,595 --> 00:09:13,795 Speaker 1: mind their cocaine mixed with rat poison. In this narrative, 135 00:09:14,515 --> 00:09:18,675 Speaker 1: news Max has been deep platformed and canceled and silenced 136 00:09:18,675 --> 00:09:21,635 Speaker 1: by Direct TV, when in fact this is entirely a 137 00:09:21,715 --> 00:09:25,835 Speaker 1: question of news Max raising its price for direct TVs 138 00:09:26,035 --> 00:09:30,275 Speaker 1: use from zero dollars per year to thirteen million dollars 139 00:09:30,275 --> 00:09:35,275 Speaker 1: per year and direct TV saying what the f the 140 00:09:35,355 --> 00:09:37,955 Speaker 1: Democrats and the liberals, and the media pressure groups and 141 00:09:37,995 --> 00:09:40,795 Speaker 1: the boycotters, and most importantly you and I, we have 142 00:09:40,955 --> 00:09:44,355 Speaker 1: already been convicted of this crime. Let's get a little 143 00:09:44,435 --> 00:09:49,475 Speaker 1: something for our money. Let's move to silence an outrageous 144 00:09:49,515 --> 00:09:53,595 Speaker 1: un American fifth column eating away at this nation's freedoms, 145 00:09:53,595 --> 00:09:56,355 Speaker 1: at its very viability, to say nothing of what it 146 00:09:56,395 --> 00:10:01,075 Speaker 1: has done to poor stupid Marjorie Taylor Green and millions 147 00:10:01,155 --> 00:10:05,315 Speaker 1: like her who literally do not know where they are 148 00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:09,915 Speaker 1: at this moment. What is the right way going to do? 149 00:10:10,075 --> 00:10:12,875 Speaker 1: In response, say, oh, you didn't really try to d 150 00:10:12,995 --> 00:10:16,515 Speaker 1: platform news Max, but now now you're really trying to 151 00:10:16,635 --> 00:10:22,395 Speaker 1: d platform Fox. The right is as ever crying. Let 152 00:10:22,515 --> 00:10:30,955 Speaker 1: us give them something to cry about. Since literally months 153 00:10:30,995 --> 00:10:33,915 Speaker 1: after I went from just sports into covering we're also 154 00:10:33,995 --> 00:10:37,515 Speaker 1: covering news and politics, I have been noting and commenting 155 00:10:37,915 --> 00:10:42,315 Speaker 1: and shouting and yelling and screaming that Fox News was 156 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:46,435 Speaker 1: not only not news and should not be called news, 157 00:10:46,915 --> 00:10:49,635 Speaker 1: but then it represented an ever growing threat to the 158 00:10:49,675 --> 00:10:55,115 Speaker 1: continuation of representative government in this country. In two thousand seven, 159 00:10:55,195 --> 00:10:58,835 Speaker 1: I said in an interview that al Qaeda really heard us, 160 00:10:59,115 --> 00:11:01,755 Speaker 1: but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has heard us. 161 00:11:02,115 --> 00:11:06,075 Speaker 1: Fox News is worse than al Qaeda. We're for our society. 162 00:11:06,595 --> 00:11:09,675 Speaker 1: It's as dangerous as the ku Klux Klan. Ever was 163 00:11:11,195 --> 00:11:16,235 Speaker 1: serious journalists, the kind that talked loudly in restaurants dismissed 164 00:11:16,235 --> 00:11:21,395 Speaker 1: my criticisms of and two thousand seven and two thousand 165 00:11:21,475 --> 00:11:25,675 Speaker 1: sixteen and today as just ploys for ratings. I was 166 00:11:25,755 --> 00:11:30,955 Speaker 1: just punching up at Bill O'Reilly, thus my hyperbole. Actually, no, 167 00:11:31,115 --> 00:11:34,555 Speaker 1: I wasn't. It was obvious then to me, and I 168 00:11:34,595 --> 00:11:37,235 Speaker 1: thought to everybody else that Fox News was being used 169 00:11:37,275 --> 00:11:38,835 Speaker 1: by the right wing in this country, the way the 170 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:42,195 Speaker 1: Nazis used radio in Germany in the early nineteen thirties 171 00:11:42,395 --> 00:11:47,115 Speaker 1: to change reality, to change it from stuff that really 172 00:11:47,155 --> 00:11:51,035 Speaker 1: happened out there to a narrative that left the population 173 00:11:51,075 --> 00:11:54,235 Speaker 1: in a constant state of fear of outsiders and in 174 00:11:54,275 --> 00:11:58,395 Speaker 1: a constant state of rage and umbridge against democracy, against liberals, 175 00:11:58,395 --> 00:12:01,795 Speaker 1: and against minorities. It was worse than al Qaeda. It 176 00:12:02,075 --> 00:12:07,195 Speaker 1: is worse than al Qaeda. Osama bin Laden killed thousands 177 00:12:07,275 --> 00:12:12,795 Speaker 1: of US. Rupert Murdoch has in essence killed the minds 178 00:12:12,835 --> 00:12:18,075 Speaker 1: of millions of us. In two thousand nine, O'Reilly and 179 00:12:18,155 --> 00:12:20,835 Speaker 1: Murdoch and Fox decided that I had to be silenced 180 00:12:21,475 --> 00:12:24,715 Speaker 1: the platformed, if you will, so they attacked not me, 181 00:12:24,835 --> 00:12:29,115 Speaker 1: but my boss and my boss's boss, and ultimately the 182 00:12:29,235 --> 00:12:33,275 Speaker 1: chairman of the multinational that owned all of us, the 183 00:12:33,355 --> 00:12:38,595 Speaker 1: head of g E, Jeffrey Immelt. I have told this 184 00:12:38,635 --> 00:12:41,075 Speaker 1: story before, and I will tell it again in all 185 00:12:41,155 --> 00:12:45,355 Speaker 1: its grizzly detail at the end of this podcast. In short, though, 186 00:12:45,395 --> 00:12:49,955 Speaker 1: O'Reilly accused GE of building parts for roadside bombs used 187 00:12:49,955 --> 00:12:53,395 Speaker 1: to kill American servicemen in Iraq. He then had a 188 00:12:53,475 --> 00:12:58,795 Speaker 1: camera crew run by Jesse Waters chase Emmelt around. He 189 00:12:58,915 --> 00:13:03,315 Speaker 1: mentioned Immelt by name on his show. Immelt's mother was 190 00:13:03,355 --> 00:13:07,195 Speaker 1: an O'Reilly viewer, and she called her son and yelled 191 00:13:07,275 --> 00:13:11,155 Speaker 1: at him. Jeff m Lt naturally kept a calm head, 192 00:13:11,195 --> 00:13:14,435 Speaker 1: befitting the man responsible for the fifth, sixth or seventh 193 00:13:14,515 --> 00:13:17,115 Speaker 1: largest corporation in the world, or whatever it was ranked then, 194 00:13:17,555 --> 00:13:21,315 Speaker 1: and he immediately threatened the president of NBC that if 195 00:13:21,715 --> 00:13:24,235 Speaker 1: his name was mentioned again on Fox News, he would 196 00:13:24,275 --> 00:13:28,555 Speaker 1: immediately take MSNBC off the air and fire everybody connected 197 00:13:28,595 --> 00:13:33,075 Speaker 1: with it, because these are businessmen and businesses first last, 198 00:13:33,195 --> 00:13:41,475 Speaker 1: and everything in between unless Mommy calls. The next thing 199 00:13:41,475 --> 00:13:45,075 Speaker 1: I knew, Roger Ales was inside thirty Rock negotiating with 200 00:13:45,155 --> 00:13:48,755 Speaker 1: Jeff Zucker over how MSNBC should cover Fox and how 201 00:13:48,835 --> 00:13:52,115 Speaker 1: Fox should cover MSNBC and m L and g E. 202 00:13:52,275 --> 00:13:56,235 Speaker 1: And even when an NBC executive boasted about this to 203 00:13:56,355 --> 00:13:59,235 Speaker 1: The New York Times, most of the American media did 204 00:13:59,275 --> 00:14:03,275 Speaker 1: not notice that two out of the three cable news 205 00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:07,955 Speaker 1: outlets were colue looting over how and how not to 206 00:14:08,115 --> 00:14:12,555 Speaker 1: cover the news. Most that did notice it simply wrote 207 00:14:12,555 --> 00:14:16,435 Speaker 1: it off to me trying to get ratings and dismissed 208 00:14:16,435 --> 00:14:22,275 Speaker 1: what I did as the liberal version of O'Reilly. I 209 00:14:22,315 --> 00:14:25,715 Speaker 1: would hope that after this Kevin McCarthy Tucker Carlson packed 210 00:14:25,715 --> 00:14:28,355 Speaker 1: about the January six video. And why am I reminded 211 00:14:28,395 --> 00:14:31,235 Speaker 1: of the Hitler Stalin packed when I say the McCarthy 212 00:14:31,275 --> 00:14:34,235 Speaker 1: Carlson pact coming so fresh on the heels of the 213 00:14:34,275 --> 00:14:38,435 Speaker 1: Fox texts in the dominion case, that somebody, somebody with 214 00:14:38,475 --> 00:14:44,875 Speaker 1: a large platform, somebody at CBS or ABC or NBC 215 00:14:45,475 --> 00:14:48,315 Speaker 1: or the New York Times or the Washington Posts somebody 216 00:14:48,635 --> 00:14:54,635 Speaker 1: would recognize what Fox News is right now and start 217 00:14:54,715 --> 00:14:58,155 Speaker 1: up I don't know four and fifty three parts series 218 00:14:58,355 --> 00:15:01,515 Speaker 1: on what they are right now. Even if they would 219 00:15:01,515 --> 00:15:06,035 Speaker 1: like to pretend that Fox News just became that last Tuesday, 220 00:15:06,475 --> 00:15:10,115 Speaker 1: so be it. Because whether it was or it was 221 00:15:10,195 --> 00:15:13,835 Speaker 1: not in two thousand thirteen or two thousand three or 222 00:15:13,875 --> 00:15:16,995 Speaker 1: at its launch, Fox News is now a clear and 223 00:15:17,155 --> 00:15:20,115 Speaker 1: present danger to the safety and security of the United 224 00:15:20,155 --> 00:15:24,515 Speaker 1: States of America. It is whether because of money or blackmail, 225 00:15:24,635 --> 00:15:29,435 Speaker 1: or most likely just sheer fascistic empathy and sheer spite. 226 00:15:29,675 --> 00:15:33,435 Speaker 1: It is a propaganda arm both of the anti democratic 227 00:15:33,475 --> 00:15:37,355 Speaker 1: conspiracies alive in this country and of the government of Russia. 228 00:15:38,155 --> 00:15:40,835 Speaker 1: And the clarity of how it at its faces like 229 00:15:40,915 --> 00:15:45,435 Speaker 1: Carlson and Hannity and Ingram acted in mercenary, financially driven 230 00:15:45,475 --> 00:15:49,235 Speaker 1: defense of election denial and thus the violence and the 231 00:15:49,275 --> 00:15:52,475 Speaker 1: coup attempts that followed and will follow again. The clarity 232 00:15:52,475 --> 00:15:56,195 Speaker 1: of what Fox was behind the scenes between November and 233 00:15:56,315 --> 00:16:00,515 Speaker 1: January and what it is today, with Tucker Carlson ready 234 00:16:00,555 --> 00:16:03,795 Speaker 1: to issue a video gas lighting on behalf of Trump 235 00:16:03,915 --> 00:16:08,235 Speaker 1: and sedition and also do issue an illustrated guide on 236 00:16:08,235 --> 00:16:11,715 Speaker 1: how to get past all those annoying Capitol Hill security 237 00:16:11,755 --> 00:16:16,795 Speaker 1: cameras next time. Fox News has rendered our response as 238 00:16:16,795 --> 00:16:21,515 Speaker 1: a nation to the peril of Fox News essential and urgent. 239 00:16:22,835 --> 00:16:27,355 Speaker 1: We have no choice. We must destroy fox News, and 240 00:16:28,035 --> 00:16:31,715 Speaker 1: if there is some means to do so, prosecuted, it 241 00:16:31,875 --> 00:16:36,595 Speaker 1: is essential and urgent. It is one thing to be 242 00:16:36,715 --> 00:16:41,915 Speaker 1: the salesman of madness and conspiracy and rage and paranoia. 243 00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:45,995 Speaker 1: It is quite another, and somehow I think it's far worse, 244 00:16:46,115 --> 00:16:50,595 Speaker 1: far more damaging, far more insidious, to be the salesman 245 00:16:50,675 --> 00:16:54,715 Speaker 1: of madness and conspiracy and rage and paranoia without believing 246 00:16:54,835 --> 00:17:01,475 Speaker 1: any of it. The real invested, insane, inconsolable, election deniers 247 00:17:01,515 --> 00:17:06,835 Speaker 1: and hate mongers are somehow slightly less despicable and certainly 248 00:17:06,915 --> 00:17:11,755 Speaker 1: less threatening because they are Zealots, and thus Zelots have 249 00:17:11,955 --> 00:17:15,075 Speaker 1: left half of their plans for world domination undone, because 250 00:17:15,075 --> 00:17:18,035 Speaker 1: they believe not only that God will do that part 251 00:17:18,195 --> 00:17:21,795 Speaker 1: for them, but that God loves only them and nothing 252 00:17:21,875 --> 00:17:25,675 Speaker 1: bad could happen to them. Fox News is far more 253 00:17:25,755 --> 00:17:29,595 Speaker 1: dangerous because, in becoming completely devoid of true belief in 254 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:34,195 Speaker 1: anything but its ability to sell morality to morons at 255 00:17:34,235 --> 00:17:39,195 Speaker 1: great profit, Fox News has absolved itself of any responsibility 256 00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:43,195 Speaker 1: for it. These people do not question their own ethics. 257 00:17:44,035 --> 00:17:47,155 Speaker 1: They haven't seen ethics in themselves, their colleagues, their guests, 258 00:17:47,155 --> 00:17:51,555 Speaker 1: their employers. In twenty five years, there isn't even moral 259 00:17:51,635 --> 00:17:55,715 Speaker 1: relativism because morality, even a mistaken belief that they have 260 00:17:55,835 --> 00:17:58,315 Speaker 1: morality and the rest of us don't, morality is no 261 00:17:58,395 --> 00:18:02,515 Speaker 1: longer part of the equation. At Fox News. In the past, 262 00:18:03,275 --> 00:18:06,155 Speaker 1: they used to sell this country out because they believed 263 00:18:06,155 --> 00:18:09,955 Speaker 1: in fascism. Now Carlson and Ingram and Hannity and all 264 00:18:09,955 --> 00:18:12,435 Speaker 1: the others are selling this country out because they believe 265 00:18:13,355 --> 00:18:17,155 Speaker 1: in money. And we have handed them all the video 266 00:18:17,235 --> 00:18:22,075 Speaker 1: from January six and a license to lie about everything 267 00:18:22,515 --> 00:18:26,915 Speaker 1: without consequences, about this in particular, without consequences. And we 268 00:18:27,035 --> 00:18:30,315 Speaker 1: might as well have given them guns and nukes and 269 00:18:30,355 --> 00:18:34,475 Speaker 1: the security code to every home in this country. Hell, 270 00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:37,835 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy just gave them the security code to every 271 00:18:37,835 --> 00:18:42,515 Speaker 1: panic room in the Capitol. And our in action, our 272 00:18:42,835 --> 00:18:46,635 Speaker 1: disbelief that there could be anything so cynical as this 273 00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:51,275 Speaker 1: is how this country has been previously blighted by big 274 00:18:51,315 --> 00:18:55,155 Speaker 1: tobacco and by big pharma. And with a historical nod 275 00:18:55,155 --> 00:19:00,035 Speaker 1: to Marjorie Taylor Green by big slavery. We know it 276 00:19:00,115 --> 00:19:03,515 Speaker 1: can kill you. It's not our fault that you believe us. 277 00:19:03,875 --> 00:19:09,755 Speaker 1: It's your We had big tobacco and big pharma. Fox. 278 00:19:10,915 --> 00:19:27,795 Speaker 1: Fox is just big bullshit, still ahead of us. In 279 00:19:27,835 --> 00:19:32,475 Speaker 1: this edition of Countdown, Little Jimmy O'Keefe leaves Project Veritas 280 00:19:32,475 --> 00:19:36,275 Speaker 1: an ironic name, claiming somebody was making up stories about him. 281 00:19:36,315 --> 00:19:40,595 Speaker 1: What does that sound so familiar? Owl Watch twenty three, 282 00:19:41,075 --> 00:19:44,955 Speaker 1: the latest The Wandering Eagle Owl of Central Park. Flacco 283 00:19:45,155 --> 00:19:49,395 Speaker 1: leaves the nest literally. Mayor Eric Adams of New York 284 00:19:49,435 --> 00:19:53,355 Speaker 1: finally makes himself useful, targeting Ron De Santis, and I 285 00:19:53,435 --> 00:19:55,315 Speaker 1: promised you the story about how the head of g 286 00:19:55,515 --> 00:19:59,315 Speaker 1: E nearly killed off MSNBC in two thousand nine because 287 00:19:59,395 --> 00:20:05,075 Speaker 1: Fox said mean things about him and his mommy heard them. 288 00:20:05,115 --> 00:20:08,355 Speaker 1: All the gory details ahead. That's next. This is Countdown? 289 00:20:16,555 --> 00:20:24,115 Speaker 1: Does is Countdown with Keith old Woman Both scripts to 290 00:20:24,115 --> 00:20:27,355 Speaker 1: the news, some headlines, some update, some snarks, some predictions. 291 00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:31,715 Speaker 1: Dateline Moscow, Okay. President Biden's visit to Kiev totally did 292 00:20:31,755 --> 00:20:35,355 Speaker 1: not disorient the Kremlin or its versions of Tucker Carlson, 293 00:20:35,435 --> 00:20:38,995 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram, and Seawan Hannity well Ingram and Hannity. Tucker 294 00:20:39,035 --> 00:20:41,915 Speaker 1: Carlson is the Russian version of Tucker Carlson. On the 295 00:20:42,035 --> 00:20:45,675 Speaker 1: nightly Russian TV marathon devoted to keeping the People in Line. 296 00:20:46,275 --> 00:20:51,195 Speaker 1: Not only did propagandist Olgus Scobiva admit Russia's special operation 297 00:20:51,235 --> 00:20:53,155 Speaker 1: in Ukraine has been going on for a year that 298 00:20:53,355 --> 00:20:56,115 Speaker 1: is far from reaching its goals. There is a huge 299 00:20:56,195 --> 00:21:00,835 Speaker 1: number of deaths, but Scobiva and other panelists said that 300 00:21:00,915 --> 00:21:05,915 Speaker 1: Kremlin had made a huge mistake in not blowing Biden up. 301 00:21:06,435 --> 00:21:10,395 Speaker 1: The Daily Beasts. Russian TV watcher Julia Davis also reports 302 00:21:10,435 --> 00:21:14,635 Speaker 1: the commentators insisted their country also missed a terrific chance 303 00:21:14,955 --> 00:21:17,995 Speaker 1: when the then British Prime Minister Bars Johnson was in Kiev, 304 00:21:18,235 --> 00:21:21,715 Speaker 1: that they could have blown him up too. Well, that's silly. 305 00:21:21,755 --> 00:21:23,035 Speaker 1: All they had to do was wait for Johnson to 306 00:21:23,075 --> 00:21:26,075 Speaker 1: go home to England and blow himself up. Date Line, 307 00:21:26,075 --> 00:21:29,715 Speaker 1: Central Park, New York. I'll watch twenty three up to Fleco. 308 00:21:29,875 --> 00:21:33,635 Speaker 1: The escaped eagle owl now on his own for two days, 309 00:21:33,635 --> 00:21:37,075 Speaker 1: shy of three weeks, and his aerial range has now 310 00:21:37,115 --> 00:21:40,315 Speaker 1: expanded from about eight or ten blocks from his original 311 00:21:40,355 --> 00:21:44,355 Speaker 1: home to fifty. He was spotted in the park's north 312 00:21:44,475 --> 00:21:48,555 Speaker 1: Woods yesterday up around a street. Late last week, the 313 00:21:48,635 --> 00:21:52,235 Speaker 1: zoo announced that since he's been feeding himself Central Park 314 00:21:52,395 --> 00:21:55,995 Speaker 1: rats yum yum, you know them as hot Dogs, they 315 00:21:55,995 --> 00:22:00,595 Speaker 1: have been suspended their attempts to recapture Flacco, although they 316 00:22:00,595 --> 00:22:02,635 Speaker 1: will keep eyes on him in case there is any 317 00:22:02,635 --> 00:22:05,795 Speaker 1: trouble in the future, for instance, if he runs out 318 00:22:05,795 --> 00:22:10,715 Speaker 1: of rats. Dateline Washington, the least successful political provocative tour 319 00:22:10,795 --> 00:22:13,835 Speaker 1: of our time, Little Jimmy O'Keefe is out on his 320 00:22:13,995 --> 00:22:17,755 Speaker 1: ass today after the power struggle at the ironically named 321 00:22:17,835 --> 00:22:22,035 Speaker 1: Project Veritas ended with his resignation. O'Keefe has vowed to 322 00:22:22,035 --> 00:22:25,755 Speaker 1: start a rival Project Veritas, and said his exit was 323 00:22:25,835 --> 00:22:30,635 Speaker 1: forced by people who ruined his reputation by fabricating stories 324 00:22:30,675 --> 00:22:34,595 Speaker 1: about him. O'Keefe can now also return his energies to 325 00:22:34,635 --> 00:22:38,675 Speaker 1: his sideline as a professional Lee Harvey Oswald look alike 326 00:22:40,035 --> 00:22:43,035 Speaker 1: you know them as hot dogs and Dateline Staten Island, 327 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:46,235 Speaker 1: Florida governor and unannounced because if he announced, he'd have 328 00:22:46,315 --> 00:22:50,235 Speaker 1: to quit as Florida governor. Presidential candidate Ron de Santis 329 00:22:50,435 --> 00:22:54,395 Speaker 1: was in New York's armpit yesterday too. I don't know 330 00:22:54,555 --> 00:22:57,715 Speaker 1: meet people worse than him. The Staten Island visit got 331 00:22:57,755 --> 00:23:00,715 Speaker 1: so much attention that even New York Mayor Eric Adams 332 00:23:00,755 --> 00:23:04,275 Speaker 1: noticed Adams tweeting a welcome to New York to de Santists. 333 00:23:04,355 --> 00:23:07,155 Speaker 1: Quote New York a place where we don't ban books, 334 00:23:07,195 --> 00:23:10,275 Speaker 1: discriminate against our l G B, t Q plus neighbors, 335 00:23:10,715 --> 00:23:13,755 Speaker 1: use asylum seekers as props, or let the government stand 336 00:23:13,795 --> 00:23:16,395 Speaker 1: between a woman and healthcare. We're happy to teach you 337 00:23:16,515 --> 00:23:20,035 Speaker 1: something about values while you're here. If your New Yorker 338 00:23:20,115 --> 00:23:22,835 Speaker 1: friends are unusually quiet today, it's because it's the first 339 00:23:22,835 --> 00:23:24,875 Speaker 1: time they've ever heard Adams come out in favor of 340 00:23:24,875 --> 00:23:28,515 Speaker 1: any of those things. Next you'll be telling us he's 341 00:23:28,555 --> 00:23:44,315 Speaker 1: a democrat. I had. We were all summoned to the 342 00:23:44,355 --> 00:23:47,075 Speaker 1: fifty second floor of thirty Rock, at which the president 343 00:23:47,115 --> 00:23:50,595 Speaker 1: of NBC told us MSNBC was about to be taken 344 00:23:50,595 --> 00:23:53,315 Speaker 1: off the air, and all of us fired because the 345 00:23:53,395 --> 00:23:57,555 Speaker 1: chairman of g E was mad. I'm not really the chairman. 346 00:23:58,195 --> 00:24:01,875 Speaker 1: The chairman's mother was mad. Next, first time for the 347 00:24:01,915 --> 00:24:04,435 Speaker 1: daily roundup of the misgrants, morons, and Dunning Krueger effects 348 00:24:04,435 --> 00:24:10,035 Speaker 1: best who constitute today's worst persons in the worldd the bronze. 349 00:24:10,515 --> 00:24:14,075 Speaker 1: An unnamed customer at the Art Windwood Fair in Miami, 350 00:24:14,555 --> 00:24:17,435 Speaker 1: one of those Jeff Coon's sculptures that look exactly like 351 00:24:17,475 --> 00:24:22,235 Speaker 1: balloon animals was on display. A balloon, bright blue and 352 00:24:22,395 --> 00:24:26,235 Speaker 1: not made out of balloon stuff. Apparently the customer did 353 00:24:26,275 --> 00:24:28,835 Speaker 1: not know that. I thought, I guess that it was 354 00:24:28,915 --> 00:24:32,675 Speaker 1: a balloon dog. She tapped the dog with her finger 355 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:37,355 Speaker 1: and it fell off the pedestal and shattered into a 356 00:24:37,475 --> 00:24:40,315 Speaker 1: hundred pieces because it wasn't made out of balloon stuff. 357 00:24:40,835 --> 00:24:45,195 Speaker 1: It was at balloon sculpture made out of ceramic. And 358 00:24:45,275 --> 00:24:48,835 Speaker 1: now it's about one hundred different pieces of balloon sculpture 359 00:24:48,875 --> 00:24:51,995 Speaker 1: worth about four and twenty dollars each. We have really 360 00:24:52,115 --> 00:25:00,395 Speaker 1: overdone this. Destroy the balloon thing. It is balloon. The 361 00:25:00,515 --> 00:25:05,515 Speaker 1: runner up, Superintendent Robbie Stuteville of Rising Star Elementary School 362 00:25:05,515 --> 00:25:12,315 Speaker 1: in Rising Star, Texas, also ironically named Superintendent Student Bill, 363 00:25:12,395 --> 00:25:14,755 Speaker 1: wants everybody to know that his gun is fine, and 364 00:25:14,875 --> 00:25:18,235 Speaker 1: he's fine, and everything is fine. Sure enough, he'd done 365 00:25:18,275 --> 00:25:22,195 Speaker 1: found his good silly him. He left it in a bathroom, 366 00:25:22,315 --> 00:25:24,675 Speaker 1: But happily somebody found it and told a teacher and 367 00:25:24,915 --> 00:25:28,115 Speaker 1: got Superintendent Studentville his gun back. The person who found 368 00:25:28,155 --> 00:25:31,955 Speaker 1: it was a third grader who found it in a 369 00:25:31,995 --> 00:25:36,075 Speaker 1: bathroom stall fifteen minutes after this idiot left it in there. 370 00:25:36,395 --> 00:25:39,755 Speaker 1: But not to worry, Studentville told parents. Quote there was 371 00:25:39,835 --> 00:25:47,475 Speaker 1: never a danger, he said, adding quote other than the obvious. Sure, 372 00:25:47,515 --> 00:25:50,755 Speaker 1: he's not a student, but our winner, John Malone, the 373 00:25:50,795 --> 00:25:54,475 Speaker 1: fascist who bought CNN and installed Chris Licked to destroy it. 374 00:25:55,395 --> 00:25:57,355 Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you that when we were at MSNBC. 375 00:25:57,875 --> 00:25:59,555 Speaker 1: You know the rest of it. By now, with the 376 00:25:59,675 --> 00:26:03,155 Speaker 1: latest CNN humiliation, the unofficial suspension of Don Lemon for 377 00:26:03,235 --> 00:26:06,075 Speaker 1: saying that at Nikki Lee was no longer in her 378 00:26:06,075 --> 00:26:09,035 Speaker 1: prime as a woman, Malone's going to have to do 379 00:26:09,075 --> 00:26:12,315 Speaker 1: one of two things. A fire Chris Licked, because every 380 00:26:12,355 --> 00:26:15,435 Speaker 1: move Licked has made not only has not worked, but 381 00:26:15,475 --> 00:26:19,195 Speaker 1: has damaged c ANN beyond repair. Or b He's just 382 00:26:19,235 --> 00:26:21,915 Speaker 1: gonna have to admit he hired Licked to damage c 383 00:26:22,035 --> 00:26:25,515 Speaker 1: ann beyond repair. There is reason to ponder whether or 384 00:26:25,555 --> 00:26:29,195 Speaker 1: not Don Lemon was set up here, not set up 385 00:26:29,195 --> 00:26:33,235 Speaker 1: so he'd say something misogynistic or something stupid about Nicki Haley. 386 00:26:33,275 --> 00:26:37,035 Speaker 1: But first they took away his solo show. Then they 387 00:26:37,115 --> 00:26:39,475 Speaker 1: up ended his life by sticking him in the graveyard 388 00:26:39,555 --> 00:26:41,955 Speaker 1: that is the Mornings. Then they stuck him with these 389 00:26:41,995 --> 00:26:44,515 Speaker 1: two nitwitted co hosts who have all the ambition and 390 00:26:44,555 --> 00:26:47,195 Speaker 1: none of the talent, And then they just waited for 391 00:26:47,235 --> 00:26:51,355 Speaker 1: something bad to happen, and it did. You can't fire 392 00:26:51,475 --> 00:26:55,355 Speaker 1: a Don Lemon, but you can demote him, demote him again, 393 00:26:55,435 --> 00:26:59,435 Speaker 1: deprive him of sleep, and hope for the worst. A 394 00:26:59,475 --> 00:27:01,555 Speaker 1: long time ago, when I worked for Fox Sports and 395 00:27:01,635 --> 00:27:04,835 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch, I reported that Murdoch was trying to sell 396 00:27:04,915 --> 00:27:07,715 Speaker 1: the l A Dodgers baseball team, which he owned. Before 397 00:27:07,755 --> 00:27:09,395 Speaker 1: I went on the air with the story, though, I 398 00:27:09,395 --> 00:27:13,115 Speaker 1: went to Murdoch's personal public relations man and told him, look, 399 00:27:13,155 --> 00:27:15,675 Speaker 1: I'll kill this story if you want, because it is, 400 00:27:15,755 --> 00:27:19,115 Speaker 1: after all, your candy store. Like I said, no, if 401 00:27:19,155 --> 00:27:21,275 Speaker 1: you believe it's legit, if your sources are good, you 402 00:27:21,275 --> 00:27:23,715 Speaker 1: can report it, but you must make it clear nobody 403 00:27:23,715 --> 00:27:26,115 Speaker 1: in the company told you this, and you must run 404 00:27:26,195 --> 00:27:28,835 Speaker 1: our corporate denial. And I said, well, flying of course, 405 00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:32,195 Speaker 1: Murdoch got back from vacation found out I had reported 406 00:27:32,235 --> 00:27:34,195 Speaker 1: he was trying to sell the Dodgers, which he was, 407 00:27:34,755 --> 00:27:36,995 Speaker 1: and as he later admitted, he went nuts and he 408 00:27:37,115 --> 00:27:39,675 Speaker 1: ordered they should fire me. The problem was I hadn't 409 00:27:39,715 --> 00:27:42,595 Speaker 1: done anything to get fired, and if they had fired me, 410 00:27:42,635 --> 00:27:44,395 Speaker 1: they would have owed me all the rest of my 411 00:27:44,475 --> 00:27:49,235 Speaker 1: one thousand dollar a month salary all at once. So 412 00:27:49,275 --> 00:27:51,555 Speaker 1: instead they simply called up and said, you're not hosting 413 00:27:51,595 --> 00:27:54,435 Speaker 1: baseball this year. And when I did nothing, the next day, 414 00:27:54,475 --> 00:27:56,955 Speaker 1: they called up and canceled my cable sports show. When 415 00:27:56,995 --> 00:27:59,315 Speaker 1: I still did nothing, the day after that, they told 416 00:27:59,315 --> 00:28:01,955 Speaker 1: me they were taking away my office. By now it 417 00:28:02,035 --> 00:28:03,555 Speaker 1: was clear what they were trying to do. They're trying 418 00:28:03,595 --> 00:28:07,275 Speaker 1: to get me to overreact, to blow up, to call 419 00:28:07,355 --> 00:28:10,715 Speaker 1: a reporter and attack Fox in public so they could 420 00:28:10,715 --> 00:28:13,515 Speaker 1: fire me for cause and then not owe me the 421 00:28:13,555 --> 00:28:16,995 Speaker 1: one k a month. Look, even I could see through that. 422 00:28:17,795 --> 00:28:20,395 Speaker 1: I kept quiet and kept getting a hundred k a month. 423 00:28:21,115 --> 00:28:23,075 Speaker 1: So if you're wondering what's going on with Don Lemon 424 00:28:23,115 --> 00:28:25,435 Speaker 1: and see Ann, keep that story in mind and accept 425 00:28:25,435 --> 00:28:28,795 Speaker 1: the possibility that they're trying to get him to explode 426 00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:31,835 Speaker 1: at them, so either they will have to fire him, 427 00:28:31,915 --> 00:28:36,315 Speaker 1: or better yet, then he will have to quit. John 428 00:28:36,675 --> 00:28:39,115 Speaker 1: just fire him and pay him the money. A cheap 429 00:28:39,195 --> 00:28:59,995 Speaker 1: billionaire Malone two Day's worst Person and Wor still ahead 430 00:28:59,995 --> 00:29:03,675 Speaker 1: on countdown I've now spent nearly more time promising it 431 00:29:03,755 --> 00:29:07,635 Speaker 1: than telling it. The day Fox News and Roger Ales 432 00:29:07,675 --> 00:29:12,275 Speaker 1: and Rupert Murdoch nearly got MSNBC taken off the air 433 00:29:12,355 --> 00:29:18,515 Speaker 1: on the spot because corporate executives are cowards. First, in 434 00:29:18,555 --> 00:29:20,675 Speaker 1: each edition of Countdown, we feature a dog in need 435 00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:24,795 Speaker 1: you can help. Every dog has its day to Shreveport, Louisiana, 436 00:29:24,915 --> 00:29:28,235 Speaker 1: and it is amazing how often this exact story unfolds. 437 00:29:28,595 --> 00:29:31,675 Speaker 1: A family has a dog it loves, who loves the family. 438 00:29:32,155 --> 00:29:36,035 Speaker 1: Maybe something unfortunate happens, maybe not out the dog goes 439 00:29:36,355 --> 00:29:38,595 Speaker 1: literally out the door, out of the car, out of 440 00:29:38,635 --> 00:29:43,315 Speaker 1: their lives. Mr Jojo is a sweet, temperate pit Terrier mix. 441 00:29:43,635 --> 00:29:46,955 Speaker 1: They dumped him on the Texas Louisiana border. He had 442 00:29:46,995 --> 00:29:51,195 Speaker 1: no idea how to feed nor protect himself. Thankfully, Parish 443 00:29:51,355 --> 00:29:55,035 Speaker 1: Pause of Shreveport found him. They're trying to heal up 444 00:29:55,075 --> 00:29:58,435 Speaker 1: his wounds, scabs, skin disease, and broken heart. Happily, the 445 00:29:58,515 --> 00:30:01,435 Speaker 1: last part usually is the easiest as to the first part. 446 00:30:01,435 --> 00:30:03,235 Speaker 1: If you can help, go to cuddly dot com and 447 00:30:03,275 --> 00:30:06,035 Speaker 1: search Mr Jojo. We're just look for him on my 448 00:30:06,115 --> 00:30:09,715 Speaker 1: Twitter feed. Donate if you can your retweets will also 449 00:30:09,795 --> 00:30:13,475 Speaker 1: help greatly. Hi, thank you, and Mr Jojo thanks you. 450 00:30:20,915 --> 00:30:25,235 Speaker 1: The executive producer of our MSNBC newscast Countdown, Izzy Povich, 451 00:30:25,355 --> 00:30:27,955 Speaker 1: and I were on the grown up elevator to the 452 00:30:27,995 --> 00:30:31,435 Speaker 1: office of NBC President Jeff Zucker on the fifty second 453 00:30:31,475 --> 00:30:34,435 Speaker 1: floor of thirty Rock in New York, summoned there by 454 00:30:34,475 --> 00:30:39,635 Speaker 1: some garbled message from MSNBC President Phil Griffin about MSNBC 455 00:30:39,755 --> 00:30:43,795 Speaker 1: being taken off the air. I was mumbling to Izzy, 456 00:30:43,915 --> 00:30:48,515 Speaker 1: Sundry imprecations and reminiscences, eight freaking months is we spent 457 00:30:48,595 --> 00:30:51,955 Speaker 1: twelve freaking months forcing them to create meadows showed last 458 00:30:52,035 --> 00:30:56,155 Speaker 1: eight months, all the crap prompter practice, getting her over 459 00:30:56,195 --> 00:30:59,715 Speaker 1: her fears, rockets past CNN only eight months of show, 460 00:30:59,755 --> 00:31:03,315 Speaker 1: and now it's all gone. Izzy reminded me it was 461 00:31:03,355 --> 00:31:06,155 Speaker 1: not just Rachel's show that was threatened, which was why 462 00:31:06,275 --> 00:31:10,235 Speaker 1: poor Court Harson from Hardball was already upstairs along with 463 00:31:10,355 --> 00:31:14,755 Speaker 1: poor Ed Schultz and Phil Griffin at Rachel's executive producer 464 00:31:14,795 --> 00:31:17,195 Speaker 1: Bill Wolf and some clown from Morning Joe and a 465 00:31:17,195 --> 00:31:21,755 Speaker 1: couple of other MSNBC executives and us. I know, I know, 466 00:31:22,515 --> 00:31:25,195 Speaker 1: I did the line from the drunken irishman from Hitchcock's 467 00:31:25,235 --> 00:31:28,035 Speaker 1: The Birds, complete with the bad accent. It's the end 468 00:31:28,075 --> 00:31:31,835 Speaker 1: of the world, I said, Jeff Emil is going to 469 00:31:31,875 --> 00:31:35,555 Speaker 1: take MSNBC off the air. I didn't need any of 470 00:31:35,595 --> 00:31:38,515 Speaker 1: my overwrought visions from two years earlier of the future 471 00:31:38,555 --> 00:31:42,315 Speaker 1: of liberal news commentary falling out the NBC window to 472 00:31:42,395 --> 00:31:45,075 Speaker 1: its death on the rink. This was the real thing. 473 00:31:45,475 --> 00:31:49,235 Speaker 1: The chairman of General Electric was threatening to open the 474 00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:53,115 Speaker 1: window himself, throw us out the window himself, and then 475 00:31:53,195 --> 00:31:56,275 Speaker 1: race down to the pavement to stomp on our dying 476 00:31:56,355 --> 00:32:01,955 Speaker 1: remains himself. Poor Ed Schultz heard Jeff Zucker say those words, 477 00:32:02,435 --> 00:32:04,995 Speaker 1: and he had screwed up his face until to his 478 00:32:05,035 --> 00:32:08,195 Speaker 1: head like a puppy hearing a car crash. He had 479 00:32:08,235 --> 00:32:10,795 Speaker 1: not believed at the first time. He had not believed 480 00:32:10,795 --> 00:32:13,555 Speaker 1: at the second time. Zucker said it a third time. 481 00:32:13,635 --> 00:32:17,915 Speaker 1: Amelt is going to take MSNBC off the fffing air at, 482 00:32:17,915 --> 00:32:22,035 Speaker 1: Schultz groaned. After weeks of Griffin's coaxing, he had finally 483 00:32:22,195 --> 00:32:26,595 Speaker 1: just moved from Nebraska to New York the preceding weekend, 484 00:32:27,275 --> 00:32:29,915 Speaker 1: yet he was still, somehow only the second most strung 485 00:32:29,955 --> 00:32:33,395 Speaker 1: out person in the room. You Zucker shouted at me, 486 00:32:33,555 --> 00:32:36,275 Speaker 1: you're the smartest one in the room. What the f 487 00:32:36,515 --> 00:32:40,075 Speaker 1: do we do now? I'll confess I was shaken by 488 00:32:40,115 --> 00:32:42,435 Speaker 1: this because it appeared for once that Zucker was not 489 00:32:42,515 --> 00:32:47,275 Speaker 1: being sarcastic. I had never before seen him flush nor flustered. 490 00:32:47,515 --> 00:32:50,915 Speaker 1: This was a guy who wore fleece in July. Now 491 00:32:50,955 --> 00:32:54,635 Speaker 1: he was beat red and sweating. Sometimes he knew what 492 00:32:54,675 --> 00:32:57,275 Speaker 1: he was doing, and, as his opposition to hiring Matto 493 00:32:57,355 --> 00:32:59,875 Speaker 1: had proved, sometimes he didn't know what he was doing. 494 00:33:00,275 --> 00:33:03,115 Speaker 1: But he always acted as the most confident man in 495 00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:06,475 Speaker 1: the galaxy. But now he literally had no clue what 496 00:33:06,555 --> 00:33:08,675 Speaker 1: to do next. And he not only could not ignore 497 00:33:08,755 --> 00:33:13,275 Speaker 1: my advice, he desperately needed it. This situation and that 498 00:33:13,355 --> 00:33:16,875 Speaker 1: color on his face, we're almost worth watching the corporate 499 00:33:16,915 --> 00:33:21,155 Speaker 1: fascists knuke my network. I asked the Sucker to explain 500 00:33:21,235 --> 00:33:24,835 Speaker 1: what happened? You, god, dad, well know what happened. Zucker 501 00:33:24,915 --> 00:33:26,675 Speaker 1: moved towards me, and I stood up and I told 502 00:33:26,755 --> 00:33:30,115 Speaker 1: him I would see myself out. He stopped, remembering that 503 00:33:30,155 --> 00:33:33,755 Speaker 1: he did indeed actually need my help. I'm sorry. I apologize. 504 00:33:33,995 --> 00:33:37,435 Speaker 1: This isn't rational, this is this is I melt last 505 00:33:37,435 --> 00:33:40,835 Speaker 1: week sometime Bill O'Reilly snapped. He told Murdach he wasn't 506 00:33:40,835 --> 00:33:42,555 Speaker 1: gonna take any more of what you were saying about 507 00:33:42,635 --> 00:33:44,515 Speaker 1: him on the air. So he did a piece last 508 00:33:44,635 --> 00:33:48,915 Speaker 1: night accusing GE of manufacturing the components that been used 509 00:33:48,915 --> 00:33:51,795 Speaker 1: in roadside bombs that were built in a rand to 510 00:33:51,875 --> 00:33:55,075 Speaker 1: kill Americans in Iraq, which is which is true? Legally, 511 00:33:55,155 --> 00:33:57,915 Speaker 1: that's legally true. They found roadside bombs that had like 512 00:33:58,475 --> 00:34:01,955 Speaker 1: thirty year old GE transistors or or TV tubes from 513 00:34:02,035 --> 00:34:05,315 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four or is something in them? Eagally g 514 00:34:05,555 --> 00:34:08,835 Speaker 1: E did manufacture components that were used in roadside bombs 515 00:34:08,875 --> 00:34:10,915 Speaker 1: that were built in around to kill Americans in Iraq. 516 00:34:11,195 --> 00:34:13,755 Speaker 1: So O'Reilly puts this on his fing show as a 517 00:34:13,875 --> 00:34:17,995 Speaker 1: lead story, and then Fox sent two camera crews in 518 00:34:17,995 --> 00:34:21,955 Speaker 1: this little crap producer from Oriley Show, Jesse water Something, 519 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:25,355 Speaker 1: to stake Immilt out and chase him around the GE 520 00:34:25,435 --> 00:34:30,035 Speaker 1: shareholders meeting in Charlotte. Zucker finally came up for air 521 00:34:30,075 --> 00:34:33,235 Speaker 1: and I jumped in, why didn't m L have six 522 00:34:33,315 --> 00:34:35,955 Speaker 1: camera crews to stake out the two Fox crews and 523 00:34:36,035 --> 00:34:38,035 Speaker 1: chase them around in Charlotte? I mean, isn't that one 524 00:34:38,075 --> 00:34:41,475 Speaker 1: of our news hubs Charlotte's doesn't m l own like 525 00:34:41,595 --> 00:34:44,675 Speaker 1: twenty camera crews? There? He bring a camera crew, you'll 526 00:34:44,675 --> 00:34:49,075 Speaker 1: bring two camera crews. Zucker started to not like me again. 527 00:34:49,435 --> 00:34:51,675 Speaker 1: Now you suggest that where were you in? All right, 528 00:34:51,755 --> 00:34:54,795 Speaker 1: never mind, it doesn't matter. mL says, if there's one 529 00:34:54,835 --> 00:34:58,475 Speaker 1: more story on Bill O'Reilly about GE manufacturing components for 530 00:34:58,595 --> 00:35:03,755 Speaker 1: roadside bombs in Iraq, he's taking MSNBC off the air immediately. 531 00:35:04,195 --> 00:35:07,235 Speaker 1: It'll just twenty four hours of lock up. And I'm fired, 532 00:35:07,715 --> 00:35:10,955 Speaker 1: and you're fired. And then he pointed at Chris Matthews, producer, 533 00:35:10,995 --> 00:35:13,555 Speaker 1: and Matthews is fired. And he pointed at poor Ed 534 00:35:13,595 --> 00:35:17,315 Speaker 1: Sheltz and you're fired, and Ed whimpered. So Smart asked, 535 00:35:17,315 --> 00:35:20,515 Speaker 1: what the f do we do? I feigned all the 536 00:35:20,555 --> 00:35:23,635 Speaker 1: nonchalance I could feign. If I could have lit a 537 00:35:23,755 --> 00:35:27,115 Speaker 1: shroot by striking a match on the soul of my boot, 538 00:35:27,275 --> 00:35:32,595 Speaker 1: I would have. It's manageable. But Jeff, why is m 539 00:35:32,715 --> 00:35:35,755 Speaker 1: el so worked up about what O'Reilly said about him? 540 00:35:35,795 --> 00:35:38,915 Speaker 1: Only O'Reilly's nutjob viewers actually believe any of that crap. 541 00:35:38,995 --> 00:35:43,035 Speaker 1: Nobody had Ge, nobody investing in GE could possibly believe 542 00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:50,955 Speaker 1: we're building components for roadside bombs. Zoocker inhaled deeply. M 543 00:35:51,075 --> 00:35:54,915 Speaker 1: L's mother believes it. All the heads in the room 544 00:35:54,915 --> 00:35:58,635 Speaker 1: turned towards the president of NNBC. Mrs m L back 545 00:35:58,635 --> 00:36:03,275 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, is a devoted Bill O'Reilly viewer watches him 546 00:36:03,315 --> 00:36:07,235 Speaker 1: every night, sees this, calls him, says, Sonny, why are 547 00:36:07,235 --> 00:36:10,475 Speaker 1: you manufacturing components that were used in roadside bombs built 548 00:36:10,475 --> 00:36:14,515 Speaker 1: in a rand to kill Americans in Iraq? I had 549 00:36:14,555 --> 00:36:18,955 Speaker 1: not expected that, I said to Zooker. So so he'll 550 00:36:18,995 --> 00:36:22,795 Speaker 1: really burn what two hundred million a year in profits 551 00:36:23,355 --> 00:36:28,515 Speaker 1: just between Rachel and me? Because he's mom watches Bill O'Reilly. 552 00:36:28,755 --> 00:36:31,395 Speaker 1: Zucker got angry again. You bet your effing ass he 553 00:36:31,475 --> 00:36:34,115 Speaker 1: will now you said it was manageable. How how the 554 00:36:34,155 --> 00:36:37,795 Speaker 1: ff do we manage it? Ulverman, just a minute? How 555 00:36:37,875 --> 00:36:42,475 Speaker 1: old is she? Zucker summoned all his annoyance? How old 556 00:36:42,555 --> 00:36:47,715 Speaker 1: is who m ELTs mother? How old is she? Jeff 557 00:36:48,395 --> 00:36:50,835 Speaker 1: Zucker was really annoyed. How the f should I know? 558 00:36:51,035 --> 00:36:54,515 Speaker 1: You're missing the point? I had him really worked up 559 00:36:54,555 --> 00:36:59,835 Speaker 1: nearly to the boiling point. It was great, guess, Zucker spluttered, 560 00:36:59,875 --> 00:37:02,355 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's in his mid fifties. She's gotta 561 00:37:02,355 --> 00:37:07,515 Speaker 1: be eighty nineties something I stifled to fake yawn. Yeah, 562 00:37:07,555 --> 00:37:09,875 Speaker 1: you're right, probably closer to ninety now that I think 563 00:37:09,915 --> 00:37:14,795 Speaker 1: of it. So the problem is she watches O'Reilly, she 564 00:37:14,955 --> 00:37:19,955 Speaker 1: tells him what's on Fox? What O'Reilly saying about Ge? Well, 565 00:37:19,995 --> 00:37:21,595 Speaker 1: I think you have a simple solution. I'd say the 566 00:37:21,635 --> 00:37:23,315 Speaker 1: first thing you do is you send over a couple 567 00:37:23,315 --> 00:37:25,595 Speaker 1: of big guys to her house and you pull the 568 00:37:25,635 --> 00:37:31,035 Speaker 1: freaking cable out of the wall. Zooker actually gasped, My producer, 569 00:37:31,075 --> 00:37:34,475 Speaker 1: is Hepovich unsuccessfully stifled a laugh, and I saw Rachel 570 00:37:34,515 --> 00:37:38,595 Speaker 1: crack a smile. Zucker regained himself. This isn't funny, Alderman, 571 00:37:39,275 --> 00:37:43,195 Speaker 1: I crossed my legs. Oh, it's a little funny. And anyway, 572 00:37:43,195 --> 00:37:46,195 Speaker 1: it's not essential. If the problem is Email is threatening 573 00:37:46,235 --> 00:37:48,155 Speaker 1: to take the network off the year because O'Reilly is 574 00:37:48,195 --> 00:37:53,115 Speaker 1: avenging himself against me by attacking him and attacking Ge. 575 00:37:53,155 --> 00:37:55,875 Speaker 1: The short term solution is easy, and in fact it 576 00:37:55,955 --> 00:37:59,595 Speaker 1: is manageable. The long term solution that's not easy, and 577 00:37:59,635 --> 00:38:01,995 Speaker 1: that's not manageable. But the short term one that's simple. 578 00:38:02,195 --> 00:38:04,555 Speaker 1: Rest of this week, next week, maybe the week after 579 00:38:04,675 --> 00:38:08,835 Speaker 1: at even we just don't mention Fox News on MSNBC 580 00:38:10,235 --> 00:38:15,515 Speaker 1: something resembling a smile across Zucker's face. It made him 581 00:38:15,515 --> 00:38:18,075 Speaker 1: look a little less like a lizard person and more 582 00:38:18,195 --> 00:38:23,595 Speaker 1: like a monkey with glasses. You do that forever? No, 583 00:38:24,395 --> 00:38:26,915 Speaker 1: not forever. I would not do that, I said to 584 00:38:27,035 --> 00:38:30,755 Speaker 1: Bias time. Yes, but remember who was it who was 585 00:38:30,755 --> 00:38:33,075 Speaker 1: in my office last winter telling me that I should 586 00:38:33,115 --> 00:38:35,755 Speaker 1: go on the air and and just to f with Fox? 587 00:38:36,235 --> 00:38:38,595 Speaker 1: I should ask why Rupert Murdoch was still running a 588 00:38:38,635 --> 00:38:42,075 Speaker 1: huge international media company like News Corp, despite all the 589 00:38:42,115 --> 00:38:45,755 Speaker 1: reports that he's suffering from dementia, even though there haven't 590 00:38:45,755 --> 00:38:49,075 Speaker 1: been any reports that he's suffering from dementia. For everybody's sake, here, 591 00:38:50,075 --> 00:38:51,875 Speaker 1: who was that again who told me to do that? 592 00:38:53,235 --> 00:38:56,635 Speaker 1: Zucker's goodwill was gone? Again? Obviously that was me. What's 593 00:38:56,635 --> 00:39:01,275 Speaker 1: your point? My point is, we built this new brand 594 00:39:01,315 --> 00:39:03,995 Speaker 1: of ours organically and a couple of themes, a couple 595 00:39:03,995 --> 00:39:07,075 Speaker 1: of statements principle, and one of them is to use 596 00:39:07,115 --> 00:39:11,155 Speaker 1: your words just to f with Fox. If we don't 597 00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:13,355 Speaker 1: f with Fox for a couple of weeks at the 598 00:39:13,355 --> 00:39:16,395 Speaker 1: start of the summer, who's gonna care. Who's gonna notice? 599 00:39:16,835 --> 00:39:20,115 Speaker 1: But like after two weeks, three weeks. Our viewers are 600 00:39:20,115 --> 00:39:23,475 Speaker 1: gonna notice, and the TV writers are gonna notice, and 601 00:39:23,475 --> 00:39:25,595 Speaker 1: then the crap will hit from every direction. You can 602 00:39:25,635 --> 00:39:30,115 Speaker 1: think of temporary freeze on mentioning Fox, then mentioning O'Reilly 603 00:39:30,115 --> 00:39:33,835 Speaker 1: and mentioning Murdock. Fine, permanent freeze. Might as well let 604 00:39:33,915 --> 00:39:35,955 Speaker 1: him L turn us off in the morning. After all, 605 00:39:37,555 --> 00:39:39,995 Speaker 1: I don't think Zucker actually heard the last part about 606 00:39:40,115 --> 00:39:43,315 Speaker 1: m L turning us off. After all, the lack of 607 00:39:43,355 --> 00:39:47,275 Speaker 1: color was returning to his face. Okay, breathe, he kept 608 00:39:47,315 --> 00:39:51,955 Speaker 1: saying to himself. Breathe, breathe, Okay, breathe. He looked at 609 00:39:51,955 --> 00:39:54,675 Speaker 1: me and nodded. He pointed at Izzy and at Phil 610 00:39:54,675 --> 00:39:57,235 Speaker 1: Griffin and me, You and you and you and I 611 00:39:57,435 --> 00:40:00,475 Speaker 1: will we will talk tomorrow, maybe tonight, and we'll all 612 00:40:00,515 --> 00:40:03,715 Speaker 1: meet again next week. Until then, nothing about Fox, anybody, 613 00:40:03,715 --> 00:40:07,995 Speaker 1: Are we clear? Thing on the air about Fox? Silence 614 00:40:08,035 --> 00:40:11,155 Speaker 1: in the room, Then the assorted noises of people rising, 615 00:40:11,235 --> 00:40:15,795 Speaker 1: mixed with attempts to resuscitate for Ed Schultz. Somebody Matthew's 616 00:40:15,875 --> 00:40:18,795 Speaker 1: guy Harson I think, was almost at the door out 617 00:40:18,835 --> 00:40:21,075 Speaker 1: of Zooker's office, an office so big that it was 618 00:40:21,115 --> 00:40:23,595 Speaker 1: to steal the ring Lardner line the size of the 619 00:40:23,715 --> 00:40:28,275 Speaker 1: Yale Bowl, but with lamps. And then a voice spoke up, 620 00:40:28,395 --> 00:40:34,555 Speaker 1: quietly but firmly. Excuse me. It was Rachel Maddow. Excuse me. 621 00:40:35,355 --> 00:40:38,035 Speaker 1: I will not have the content of my show dictated 622 00:40:38,075 --> 00:40:42,555 Speaker 1: by any corporations, including the one I work for. Remember 623 00:40:42,595 --> 00:40:45,035 Speaker 1: this is June two nine. She still felt that way then, 624 00:40:45,515 --> 00:40:48,235 Speaker 1: and especially one I don't work for. I will walk 625 00:40:48,235 --> 00:40:50,955 Speaker 1: out first. I cannot have the audience wondering what else 626 00:40:51,075 --> 00:40:53,355 Speaker 1: I have not told them. I don't do a lot 627 00:40:53,435 --> 00:40:55,075 Speaker 1: about Fox on my show. But if there is a 628 00:40:55,075 --> 00:40:57,715 Speaker 1: story about Fox, I will not honor this freeze. I 629 00:40:57,755 --> 00:41:00,315 Speaker 1: will report that story. And if I'm prevented from reporting 630 00:41:00,315 --> 00:41:05,435 Speaker 1: that story, I will leave. Whereupon she left, Hooker barked 631 00:41:05,555 --> 00:41:09,875 Speaker 1: phil lerman is he stay? When the rest of the 632 00:41:09,955 --> 00:41:13,075 Speaker 1: room had cleared, Zucker blew air out of his mouth 633 00:41:13,155 --> 00:41:16,195 Speaker 1: as if it were smoke. He gestured violently at me 634 00:41:16,275 --> 00:41:18,355 Speaker 1: with his right arm. I told you she was a mistake. 635 00:41:18,435 --> 00:41:20,675 Speaker 1: You didn't listen to me. I told you. Now, she's 636 00:41:20,715 --> 00:41:22,875 Speaker 1: your problem. All of this is your problem. Get her 637 00:41:22,875 --> 00:41:26,635 Speaker 1: back on the reservation or else. Now I had run 638 00:41:26,635 --> 00:41:30,195 Speaker 1: out of goodwill and jokes. Oh, I'll get her back 639 00:41:30,235 --> 00:41:32,155 Speaker 1: on the reservation. Jeff, But do you think this is 640 00:41:32,235 --> 00:41:35,155 Speaker 1: my problem? Just think about what happens if he really 641 00:41:35,315 --> 00:41:37,675 Speaker 1: does take us off the air, or if it just 642 00:41:37,795 --> 00:41:40,715 Speaker 1: gets out that he threatened to take us off the 643 00:41:40,755 --> 00:41:49,595 Speaker 1: air because his mother didn't like what Fox said about him. 644 00:41:49,635 --> 00:41:54,115 Speaker 1: That's my problem. Uh, that's your problem. And it's the 645 00:41:54,155 --> 00:41:58,155 Speaker 1: problem of the CEO of the freaking sixth largest corporation 646 00:41:58,275 --> 00:42:02,315 Speaker 1: in the world, who makes his business decisions involving hundreds 647 00:42:02,315 --> 00:42:05,955 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars of profits based on what his 648 00:42:06,235 --> 00:42:11,395 Speaker 1: mother says. At this point, Phil Griffin managed to pull 649 00:42:11,515 --> 00:42:14,115 Speaker 1: Zooker away and Izzy and I made for the door, 650 00:42:14,235 --> 00:42:18,275 Speaker 1: saying nothing until we were in the elevator. Finally, she asked, 651 00:42:18,915 --> 00:42:21,715 Speaker 1: what are you going to do about Rachel? I looked 652 00:42:21,715 --> 00:42:25,555 Speaker 1: straight ahead. I have depth reception issues while traveling forward, backwards, 653 00:42:25,595 --> 00:42:28,115 Speaker 1: up or down the if I know what I'm gonna 654 00:42:28,115 --> 00:42:30,075 Speaker 1: do about her? But I got an idea. I mean, 655 00:42:30,075 --> 00:42:32,115 Speaker 1: the only person she was really talking to in there 656 00:42:32,235 --> 00:42:36,595 Speaker 1: was herself. This isn't a brand new surprise success for 657 00:42:36,635 --> 00:42:40,155 Speaker 1: her anymore. This is successful. This is what nine ten 658 00:42:40,315 --> 00:42:43,995 Speaker 1: months she's successful. She said. She was once a dancing 659 00:42:44,115 --> 00:42:47,235 Speaker 1: cell phone outside of cell phone store outside of Boston. 660 00:42:47,395 --> 00:42:50,795 Speaker 1: She ain't going back to that. I went to talk 661 00:42:50,795 --> 00:42:53,635 Speaker 1: to Rachel about an hour later and reassured her. I 662 00:42:53,755 --> 00:42:56,475 Speaker 1: mentioned that powerful as Fox was, they were not going 663 00:42:56,515 --> 00:42:59,635 Speaker 1: to be able to re invade Iraq by themselves, and 664 00:42:59,795 --> 00:43:02,475 Speaker 1: unless she moved it way closer than it had been, 665 00:43:02,475 --> 00:43:05,835 Speaker 1: nobody would cross her censorship line. And I said, just 666 00:43:05,995 --> 00:43:08,475 Speaker 1: give me as much time as the French government took 667 00:43:08,755 --> 00:43:12,395 Speaker 1: before fleeing during the Nazi advance in nine. I said, 668 00:43:12,555 --> 00:43:14,675 Speaker 1: give me, what was it, thirty three days? Give me 669 00:43:14,755 --> 00:43:17,195 Speaker 1: thirty three days. If we aren't back where we were 670 00:43:17,235 --> 00:43:20,555 Speaker 1: this morning, we can both quit on the air. I 671 00:43:20,555 --> 00:43:23,995 Speaker 1: mean that would be fun. Right. Three nights later, well 672 00:43:24,035 --> 00:43:27,875 Speaker 1: after midnight on a Friday, my NBC issued BlackBerry buzzed 673 00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:31,915 Speaker 1: with a quick email from Rachel Maddow. Hey, she wrote, 674 00:43:32,235 --> 00:43:35,595 Speaker 1: don't necessarily quote me because I'm really drunk, but just 675 00:43:35,635 --> 00:43:38,035 Speaker 1: make the best deal you can for us. I trust you. 676 00:43:38,275 --> 00:43:39,995 Speaker 1: We don't need to do Fox all the time. I 677 00:43:40,075 --> 00:43:42,955 Speaker 1: never do Fox stories anyway. I just had to say that, 678 00:43:43,195 --> 00:43:45,635 Speaker 1: and this is the best platform we will ever have. 679 00:43:46,835 --> 00:43:49,235 Speaker 1: Well she was right, at least for the time being. 680 00:43:49,555 --> 00:43:51,235 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later, I had to sneak in 681 00:43:51,275 --> 00:43:53,915 Speaker 1: a script that blasted Fox, and at ten thirty at 682 00:43:53,955 --> 00:43:56,075 Speaker 1: home that night, I got a call from a drunken 683 00:43:56,075 --> 00:43:59,555 Speaker 1: Phil Griffin shouting into the phone, I have a family. 684 00:44:00,915 --> 00:44:04,515 Speaker 1: Zooker had to go meet with Roger Ales secretly in 685 00:44:04,835 --> 00:44:08,155 Speaker 1: side thirty Rock, and I hope they remember to clean 686 00:44:08,235 --> 00:44:10,995 Speaker 1: the room afterwards. And m l even had to meet 687 00:44:11,035 --> 00:44:15,235 Speaker 1: with Murdoch, And then, happily, some idiot g executive decided 688 00:44:15,275 --> 00:44:17,955 Speaker 1: to boast to The New York Times about getting us 689 00:44:17,995 --> 00:44:21,355 Speaker 1: little talent children under control and a big deal with 690 00:44:21,635 --> 00:44:24,515 Speaker 1: the executives over at Fox and how they'd settled everything, 691 00:44:24,515 --> 00:44:27,435 Speaker 1: which blew up the whole deal instantly, because the moment 692 00:44:27,795 --> 00:44:31,915 Speaker 1: the deal went public, NBC looked so stupid, and even 693 00:44:32,075 --> 00:44:36,355 Speaker 1: NBC News was now risked. The only point of the 694 00:44:36,395 --> 00:44:38,875 Speaker 1: whole thing was to keep the mls and the Zookers 695 00:44:38,875 --> 00:44:41,515 Speaker 1: and the Griffins and the ailes Is from throwing us 696 00:44:41,555 --> 00:44:44,915 Speaker 1: and our little island of liberal commentary out of that 697 00:44:44,995 --> 00:44:48,795 Speaker 1: window at thirty Rock. But as Rachel Mattow and I 698 00:44:48,835 --> 00:44:52,635 Speaker 1: would be constantly reminded in the ensuing years, thirty Rock 699 00:44:53,115 --> 00:45:10,235 Speaker 1: has a lot of freaking windows. Countdown has come to 700 00:45:10,235 --> 00:45:13,195 Speaker 1: you from the studios of old Ruined Broadcasting Empire World 701 00:45:13,315 --> 00:45:17,115 Speaker 1: headquarters in the Sports Capsule Building in New York, where 702 00:45:17,115 --> 00:45:20,235 Speaker 1: no deals are made with Fox News. Thank you for listening. 703 00:45:21,355 --> 00:45:23,355 Speaker 1: Here are the credits. Most of the music, including our 704 00:45:23,395 --> 00:45:26,595 Speaker 1: theme from Beethoven's Ninth, was arranged, produced and performed by 705 00:45:26,595 --> 00:45:28,875 Speaker 1: Brian Ray and John Philip s Chanelle. They are the 706 00:45:28,875 --> 00:45:32,395 Speaker 1: countdown musical directors. Guitars based on drums by Brian Ray, 707 00:45:32,795 --> 00:45:36,155 Speaker 1: all orchestration and keyboards by John Philip Chanelle, produced by 708 00:45:36,195 --> 00:45:39,875 Speaker 1: T k O Brothers. Other Beethoven selections have been arranged 709 00:45:39,875 --> 00:45:43,555 Speaker 1: and performed by No Horns allowed. The sports music is 710 00:45:43,555 --> 00:45:46,795 Speaker 1: the Ulderman theme from ESPN two and it was written 711 00:45:46,795 --> 00:45:50,235 Speaker 1: by Mitch Warren Davis and it appears courtesy of ESPN Inc. 712 00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:54,315 Speaker 1: Musical comments by Nancy Faust. The best baseball stadium organist ever. 713 00:45:54,715 --> 00:45:58,035 Speaker 1: Our announcer today was Jonathan Banks, and everything else was 714 00:45:58,035 --> 00:46:01,035 Speaker 1: pretty much my fault. So that's countdown for this the 715 00:46:01,075 --> 00:46:05,595 Speaker 1: seven seventy seventh day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup 716 00:46:05,595 --> 00:46:08,675 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. With 717 00:46:08,755 --> 00:46:12,355 Speaker 1: the help of Fox News, arrest Trump now while we 718 00:46:12,475 --> 00:46:15,675 Speaker 1: still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Until then, 719 00:46:15,715 --> 00:46:17,915 Speaker 1: I'm keith Old Reman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, 720 00:46:18,555 --> 00:46:30,675 Speaker 1: and good luck. Countdown with keith Old Reman is a 721 00:46:30,755 --> 00:46:34,315 Speaker 1: production of I heart Radio. 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