1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: My family demanded I raised my late husband's affair kids. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: I refused, Why would you not? 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an affair I don't want to get into. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: So my forty five female husband forty nine male of 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty three years had an affair with a twenty year 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: old girl since twenty twenty. I found out this year 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: when is a fair? Partner gave birth to twin boys 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: in March? Not not a fair twins twins. You already 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: thought it was a lot, double the trouble, double trouble 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: coming this march. Obviously we were going to divorce. We've 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: been hashing things out since it's been a lengthy process 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: due to some properties in common, and we needed to 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: get an accountant since he used the shared account for 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: his affair. Oh oh man has no shame you're putting 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: when you're putting your affair partner on the business card. Dude, Hey, 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: you know like you and you're getting busy, you have 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: to put it on the company card. Like, how do 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: you keep track of your wife, your mistress and your 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: two affair twins. You gotta have your assistant. 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have an accountant keeping track of all of you, 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: of your your affair partners yeah. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: This one's a ride off. Oh god, So finally things 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: seem to be getting close to the end when both, 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, when both my husband and the woman 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: he cheated on were killed in a car crash. 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: I I don't remember the last time a story has 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: been this insane In the first three sentences, oh the past, 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, what's wrong with us lately? 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Oh? All of us have said something insane lately. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Scaredy Cat eleven twenty two, 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: when the Best Bred updates sub about it. So buy 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: some miracle. The twin babies were not harmed in the crash. 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Let's go now they are orphan. Damn, I'm sorry this sucks. Crying, yeah, 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the YouTuber I see, look this slogan. Crying right now, not. 35 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: From laughter. 36 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: But from actual sadness. We're on the highway to all right. Yeah, 37 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 3: that's us. 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Now they are orphaned, and neither set of grandparents can 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: take them in permanently. My husband's parents are both in 40 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: assisted living, he has no siblings, and the only aunt 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: that could take them refuses. She's been child free her 42 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: whole life. On the woman's side, I'm not sure the 43 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: details in full, but her parents are also not able 44 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: to be involved long term, and the one sister she 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: has lives overseas. No one's taken on these affair twins. 46 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I think gotta split them up like Princess Lean Luke 47 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: Skywalker good good, Yeah, that's literally this story. It's it 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: was kind of a fair. It was. It was a 49 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: fair twins because he's a Jedi. He's not allowed to 50 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: copy to depend uh anyone light Saber and yeah, be 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: lightsaber and now yeah it's Jedi. It's like a it's 52 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: like your monk. You're a monk, your monk. So that 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: was an affair. One of them went to Obie and 54 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: the other one went to some dude. Since we were 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: still married and he had not updated his will, all 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: his assets are set to pass to me and our 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: two children. I'm not callous enough to leave those babies 58 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: with nothing, so I agreed to let whoever is their 59 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: legal guardian to have the remaining balance in the shared account, 60 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: about twenty five thousand in savings. The issue is no 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: one wants to take them in. Now my in laws 62 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: are pressuring me to take them in and raise them. 63 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: The issue is I don't want to at all. Of course, 64 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: I would love them, and I don't want to be 65 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: the evil stepmother, but I know a big part of 66 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: me will always have a level of resentment towards them. 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: I will probably favor my own two children really quick. 68 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: If this happened to you, what would you do with 69 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: the affair babies? The affair twins. It's not their fault. 70 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: But I truly loved my husband and I thought we 71 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: were happy before I found out about the affair. We 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: have two daughters, fourteen and sixteen. Obviously we had disagreements, 73 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: but never insulted each other before. Then. I found out 74 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: about the affair, and he began calling me names and 75 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: blaming me for his chieving. You should have stopped me, 76 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: hold me back. He became abusive and even tried to 77 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: kick me out of the house, my childhood home that 78 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: is not shared property, for the record, So he tried 79 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: to kick her out of the house, out of her 80 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: own home. That's crazy. I'm also raising teenagers alone now. 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 1: I don't have the energy to raise baby bees anymore. 82 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: My daughters hate their baby brothers. 83 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 4: Oh that sucks. 84 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: These babies did nothing wrong, Yeah, just climbed out of 85 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: the wrong hole. I tried to get them to spend 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: time with their dad as we were divorcing, but they 87 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: refused since this all was found out because of the babies, 88 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: there wasn't really a way to sugarcoat the situation, and 89 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: they are also too old to really get away with them. 90 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Most of my friends agree it's not my place to 91 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: care for those children, but my in laws, the affair 92 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: woman's parents, and my mother want me to raise them. 93 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I know my mom is just having grandkid fever, but 94 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: it hurts to not have the support. 95 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: But doesn't she already have grandkids? 96 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but now they're now they're old and pimply. Yeah, 97 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: they're babies. They can push you around exactly exactly. I 98 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: feel also like the thirst for grandchildren never really stops. 99 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: It's honestly, the thirst for grand is toxic. 100 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: It's insatiable because you get to have like constant baby 101 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: love and none of the responsibility of having to. 102 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: And you're forcing of at least at least if you 103 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: if you have like baby fever as the person having it, 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: at least you're the ones like, Okay, I gotta take 105 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: care of it. 106 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna one. 107 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: I got towed it. 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 5: Wait, isn't your mom gonna move to wherever you are 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: once you have grandkids or would you have kids? 110 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: That's that's what she says. 111 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: That's crazy, my mom. 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm also is very adamant. 113 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm literally down. 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: I have to make a decision by next week or 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: the boys will be going into foster care. Snap. At 116 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: the moment they are temporary placed with their maternal grandparents. 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: I feel horrible, but I am very sure I can't 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: take them in. Would I be the A hole if 119 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: I refuse to take them in? We are less than 120 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: a quarter through this boy, there is more but pausing 121 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: right here? Yes, would OP be the a hole if 122 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: they refuse to take them in? 123 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: Logically, No, is the logic I was referencing before. 124 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: So the guy cheated, cheated, had the not only cheated, 125 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: had the babies. Therefore the babies, you know, were his 126 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: and his a fair partner's responsibility, right and he does 127 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: they they both passed away. 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: They're gone now. 129 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, we can't give them responsibility because 130 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: they're literally literally not. 131 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Here here to accept it. 132 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: Op had nothing to do with any of what we 133 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: just said. No, didn't have any fair, didn't have the kids, 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: absolutely nothing. Uh So, and you know, rightfully, like, hey, 135 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: you broke the trust of the relationships. She wanted to 136 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: split because of that. So it's like. 137 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Who is most responsible for these kids? Like it's like 138 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: like who's next of kin? Because usually it's like you die, 139 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: wife is next of kin? So who who do you think? 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Do you think is there is there anyone who's but 141 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: their parents? Are they? 142 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: What was their situation? 143 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Again? 144 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: Yes, she talked about everyone, and everyone was either out 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: of country or too old to take. 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: The children's grandparents you're talking about, Yeah, the fair babies grandparents. Yeah, yeah, both, 147 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: but both of them just said can't take him in. 148 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: One of them was because they're they're too old. The 149 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: other one is because like I don't know, they don't 150 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: want to. 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like okay, listen, yeah, so it's for 152 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: the two pairs of grandparents. 153 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: That's the next step, right. 154 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: It's like because if you if you fall, and then 155 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: again the line of logic, you gave birth to a child, 156 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 3: So like, okay, you're which is the fair the husband 157 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: the fair husband? Then therefore they had a child. So 158 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: it's like that's where the chain goes back up to, right, yep, 159 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: So if both of them it's like no, no, no, 160 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: you can't shame me into it. 161 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: This is your responsibility. 162 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, once you broke the trust of the marriage, 163 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: now it's like I don't have any responsibility. 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: Well, it's like she's not related to them. 165 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: She didn't have the choice to, you know, do the 166 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: spicy sleep to create the all of the check boxes op. 167 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: Yeah is removed? 168 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: Yes, was she uh married married to this guy? 169 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: Yes? 170 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: But look at all of the other things. 171 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 172 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: Like I feel like that just cancels out the fact 173 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: that they were married. 174 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: I think the grandparent I don't think it should be 175 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: the siblings. I think it's the grandparents should take the 176 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: kids in. 177 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the siblings aren't either, Like if you 178 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: give live far away, who can't raise them in fucking Australia. 179 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: I cursed. I'm sorry, guys. So I think I think, uh, 180 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: what would you do? Personally? 181 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: I liked your idea of honestly, I would have to 182 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: think about it. There's definitely a world where I do 183 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: take care of them, But also I would I think 184 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: I would if I did going into it, I'd be like, 185 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: I know, this is. 186 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: Not my responsibility. 187 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: You know, I love your idea of overseeing the the 188 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: like inheritance, the twenty five K or whatever it is, 189 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: and the the adoption. To make sure and see how 190 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: long the adoption processes could take a long time, maybe 191 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: you temporarily take custody just to make sure they don't 192 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: go into foster care, make sure they're passed off to 193 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: the right adoptive parents, and then move on from there. 194 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's that I think that's the most 195 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: angel thing to do, or the most angel thing to 196 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: do is just to take care of the kids, But 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: it feels it's too much. And also it's like it 198 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like op would be able to do that 199 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: because of the resentment. I think like the medium angel 200 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: thing to do is oversee the adoption, like you said, 201 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: you said, and like it's not an a whole thing 202 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: to do, but it's like the most neutral is just 203 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: let them go to an adoption. 204 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: Which or let them go into foster as tragic as 205 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: it is, and maybe we'll discuss more with more on 206 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: the story. There is absolutely an argument for that's okay 207 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: because all of this happened to Ope. 208 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so it's tough. Yeah it's tough, but 209 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this next update. Let's do it. 210 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: You guys ready, you guys ready, We're so far from 211 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: being over Hey, everyone, this blew up far more than 212 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: I thought, and I appreciate the well wishes for my girls, 213 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: the boys, and myself. Also for the amount of people 214 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: offering to see about giving the twins to a good home. 215 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: I might not be their mother, but it does touch 216 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: me and makes me glad there's good people out there. 217 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: After thinking carefully and speaking to my lawyer, reading responses, 218 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: doing research, et cetera, I plan to speak to the 219 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: grandparents tomorrow and refuse to take legal guardianship of the boys. 220 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: Sop is not going to take guardianship, which means she's 221 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: not going to oversee adoption. She's not going to be 222 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: raising them, but she is going to maybe see if 223 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: she can pass these after the grandparents, which we all 224 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: kind of agreed was the next person who should take 225 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: care of them. I will let them know of the 226 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: user names of people that offered meeting for private adoptions 227 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: or fostering. Damn, read it be helping people adopt? 228 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I could see it. The story goes 229 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: crazy like that's awesome. 230 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: But my daughters are my priority. It'll be up to 231 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: the twins grandparents to decide if they'll proceed with adoption, 232 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: keep them, or turn them to the state. I wish 233 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: I had the mental capacity to be the person to 234 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: do this, but I have two girls that are going 235 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: through a lot, and they need my full attention. 236 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: Just imagine from the daughter's perspective, First you find out 237 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 3: your your dad is cheating, and then like harassing them on, 238 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: trying to kick her out of her own families, you know, 239 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: pass down house and everything, and then dives in a 240 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 3: car crash. The emotions that they must be going through 241 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: is insanity. Yeah, right, And like you're you're a teenager. 242 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: You're already he's like, oh, boys and whatever else. School drama, 243 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: you know, but you got like that load dropped on 244 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: you as a teenager. 245 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: And you're you can't be a teenager anymore because you 246 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: have to like emotionally pick up and take on this 247 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 5: whole thing. 248 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 249 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: I'll also be talking to lawyers to figure out if 250 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: the boys have any inheritance claim properly. If they do, 251 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I'll separate it and leave it to the lawyers to 252 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: do what they need to do for them to have 253 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: access when it's best. If they don't. I'll find a 254 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: way to ensure they have access to the twenty five 255 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars I was going to give them since the beginning. 256 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: I won't do more. My moral compass might be biased, 257 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: but I don't believe I'm obligated, neither morally nor legally, 258 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: to do more than what the word of the law says. 259 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: I can't help everyone, and I shouldn't have to. I 260 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: have two girls that lost their father, two girls that 261 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: need therapy, two girls just about to get to college. 262 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: They've gone through enough without seeing their mother favor the 263 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: children of their father's mistress, and there is an update. 264 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: But what do we think about that logic? Basically, Op's like, 265 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what the letter of the law says, 266 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna do more because my immediate family 267 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: is what takes past at it. 268 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: It's just like, you just can't blame her because literally 269 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: none of this is her. None of the actions she 270 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: did caused this to happen. This happened to her. Yeah, 271 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: and you know, I think, you know, don't. 272 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: You can't put them on the street or anything. 273 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like, Okay, follow the law and just 274 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: like pass them off to the next thing and try 275 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: for the grandparents. 276 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: That's the best case scenario. I say, that's good, not 277 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: the hell. 278 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: But let's see what happens in this glorious update. So so, 279 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: as I said two nights ago, I went yesterday to 280 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: speak to the twins grandparents. I explained my position and 281 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: refused to take guardianship of the boys. My mother in 282 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: law almost slapped me when I said that, but thankfully 283 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: this was all that was done. It's just up and 284 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: then put a hand down nice in a public space, 285 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: and my father in law stopped her. So I guess 286 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: it was more like, ooh yeah. The maternal grandparents kept 287 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: pleading for me to raise them, since they didn't want 288 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: to lose them. Maybe you raised them yourself, literally, you 289 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: got all that experience, granny. I kept saying no, and 290 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: when they called me selfish, I lost it. I told 291 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: them to their face, the only selfish people in this 292 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: mess were them and their son and daughter. Their son 293 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: my husband for cheating and then making the divorce hell 294 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: on me and my girls. Their daughter because she was 295 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: the or. I used another word that went after a 296 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: married man twice her age. Ouch. I told them if 297 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I heard from them again, I would request a cease 298 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: and desist. I also informed my parents in law that 299 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: they won't have access to my daughters for the foreseeable future. 300 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I'll explain why in a bit. We were at a restaurant, 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: but I didn't stay for the meal. I also sent 302 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: an email to my lawyer so he can ensure child 303 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: protective services in any agency involved in the welfare of 304 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the twins is aware I'm not going to be their 305 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: guardian or be involved. Then I sent an email to 306 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: my in laws with all the usernames and websites from 307 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: people here in Reddit that have offered to do interviews 308 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: for the twins adoption. I won't be involved beyond this point, 309 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: so please As lovely as it is, I can't help 310 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: you if you are interested in the boys. Yesterday was 311 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: the end of my involvement. Wow, but there's way more 312 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: to this story, so I don't think so yeah yeah. 313 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Also, I'm like, they go, he's going to be roped in. 314 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: Basically the grandparents are a no go. 315 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: So it's I mean, it seems like she's still passing 316 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: it off to the It seems like she's a process 317 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: passing it off to the grandparents. She's passing off to 318 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: the parents of the affair partner. Yes, so the grandparents 319 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: of the babies grandparents of the babies, but she's also 320 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: not allowing her in laws to have access to her 321 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: actual daughters, her children. 322 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: So the situation now is like, all right, grandparents, you 323 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: take it over. Whether you get them adopted to these people, 324 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: the red of people, whether you put them in foster care, 325 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: whether you take care of them, that's your prerogative now. 326 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: And but I'm out right. So as of right now, 327 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: the grandparents could do any of those options and we 328 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: don't know which. 329 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: As for why my in laws won't see my girls, 330 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: I spoke to my daughters and decided to find out 331 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: more about their thoughts before I went to meet with 332 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: the grandparents. My youngest refused to speak to me, which 333 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: I found out of place for her. My eldest then 334 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: asked for just the two of us to speak. That's 335 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: when she explained that my in laws had been going 336 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: on about how the girls need to get ready to 337 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: go to public school instead of their private school and 338 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: to get jobs right out of high school. Since I 339 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: will have to provide for the twins with private schooling 340 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: and college money, what where do you getting that idea. Apparently, 341 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: they also were told to start moving their stuff to 342 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: share a room. My girls have separate rooms since the 343 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: twins need more space. This was not known to me, 344 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: mostly because that would never happen. Apparently my in laws 345 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: have been basically bullying the girls because babies take priority. Yeah, 346 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: that's not happening. I told the girls that their grandparents 347 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: have no say and where they go to school, their 348 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: college funds, or how the rooms are set in our house. 349 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Also that I do agree they could use a part 350 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: time job during college and maybe a scholarship, but their 351 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: tuition will be paid. Not to blame the babies for 352 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the stupidity of the adults. They told me they understand, 353 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: but they still don't want to interact with their brothers 354 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: for now. That for now part gives me hope they'll 355 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: get through things. For now, we're going to do some 356 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: changes in the house. The girls and I both don't 357 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: like there's still an office space that my husband used. 358 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: We're going to make it into a gaming room for 359 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: all of us. I plan to take down some pictures 360 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: that we have of my husband in them and put 361 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: them in albums for the girls. We just want to 362 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: make the house more hours. As for people wondering why 363 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: my girls wanted nothing to do with their father, my 364 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: daughters were the ones that discovered the affair and told 365 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: me when my husband took them to meet the twins 366 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: at the hospital. Wow, what the audacity? Also, like, man 367 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to keep a secret. He does not 368 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: to his credit. To his credit, he did keep it 369 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: a secret up until the birth of the twins. 370 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: Nine months at least at least nine months, which for 371 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: sure longer than that she was twenty dude, whoa. 372 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: That means he was like probably, I mean he was 373 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: probably dating like a nineteen eighteen year old. Yi, dude, Yi. 374 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: What was the average that we read where it's like 375 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: it takes two years to get pregnant or like something 376 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: like that. 377 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: What's the I might not even I wonder if I 378 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: wasn't here. 379 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: There was something where it was like, remember it takes 380 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: like a year of trying or something to obviously could 381 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: happen first try. Yeah, but like like the averages it 382 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: takes is that you're fuck I have on. 383 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 5: That, Okay, thirty of couples get pregnant within the first month, 384 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 5: sixty percent within the three months, eighty percent within six months, 385 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 5: eighty five percent within one year, and then ninety two 386 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 5: percent within four years. 387 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: Oh. Dana Boo says they had an affair for four years, 388 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: starting when she was twenty. 389 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: Okay, in a comprehension, I feel way better now. 390 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Honestly, he's 391 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: not that bad. 392 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: Golden rule for jeating. 393 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: How old was this guy though? 394 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Seven? Yeah? 395 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 4: Two plus seven seven yeah? 396 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: No, sh shot, not even close. 397 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: He had asked them to keep it a secret, but 398 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: my girls told me after that, my husband began treating 399 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: them horribly too. He burnt all bridges with the girls. 400 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: Makes sense, very tiny update since there's some people who 401 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: keep harassing me in the PMS. I spoke to a 402 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: lawyer on Monday. The boys have no inheritance claim until 403 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: a DNA test is gone. After that, their only claim 404 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: is against my in laws. The shared account is not 405 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: considered my husband's individual property, so it's mine. Same with 406 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: the lake house. Since he had a personal savings account 407 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: and a life insurance which went to his parents, that 408 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: will be the only thing the boys could claim. Obviously, 409 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: this can be changed if it goes to but the 410 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: lawyer told me, with how little my husband left my 411 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: girls and I there's very little chance a judge will 412 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: demand our assets. The lawyer also recommended me to completely 413 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: end the idea of sharing any money with the boys 414 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: that could be used against me to claim I'm taking 415 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: fiscal responsibility for them and should be considered to be 416 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: their guardian. 417 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: So basically, if they give something, they could use that 418 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: as present to be like. 419 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh, well you're their guardian, then you should take care 420 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: of them, which kind. 421 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: Of sucks, Like you's like yeah about it anyway. 422 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does suck. 423 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: Also, I'm wondering, so like he they had a lake 424 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: house and stuff and like all these assets, but he 425 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: only had a what twenty five thousand dollars That's what 426 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: I was trans policy. Yeah, yeah, I would assume y 427 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: would have had more assets. 428 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: That's what I would have thought. 429 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: And I imagine like a life insurance policy, like I 430 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: feel like it's usually at least like maybe it was 431 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: like he was paying like ten yeah, like two k, 432 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: Like maybe it's paying ten cents a month or something 433 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: like that. But like because I've i feel like I've 434 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: heard life insurance range between like yeah, ten some some 435 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: of it's like ten to like one hundred tend to 436 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: like one hundred bucks and you get it like a large. 437 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: Law for that, Like I've heard of like a million, 438 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: ten million, yeah, like. 439 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: But with certain ones you have to die within a 440 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: certain age with certain. 441 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: There's like specifications, yeahpifications. I'm dividing the money from the 442 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: shared account for my daughter's college tuitions. I'm still unsure 443 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: if I'll sell the lake house or not, but neither 444 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: the girls nor I are attached to it. Now, please 445 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: leave me alone about the boys. Inheritance sas sad as 446 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: it is. My husband messed everything up for his children. 447 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm not responsible for them, nor do I have to 448 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: sacrifice my assets to set them up for a better life. 449 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: And there's another update. There's some good news and some 450 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: annoying news. 451 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 452 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: The good news is the boys were safely retrieved by 453 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Child Protective Services from the maternal grandparents and will be 454 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: placed in foster care until a permanent arrangement is made. 455 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: I found out when it happened, since their grandparents and 456 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: my mother came to scream at me at work. 457 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: Oh, it's one way to send a message. 458 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: In all honesty, I'm glad this happened at work and 459 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: not at home. It's made me consider moving since I 460 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: don't want my daughters exposed to any of this. An 461 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: annoying I had very soon after was getting a call 462 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: about my inquiries into fostering and adopting. Apparently my information 463 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: was sent to Trial Protector Services as someone interested in 464 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: fostering the twins and eventually adopting. I immediately explained the 465 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: situation between the grandparents and me, and the operator was 466 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: speechless at first. She apologized for the situation and told 467 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: me she would make sure I wasn't bothered about the process. 468 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I also got served this morning. Oh 469 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: my in laws are suing for grandparents' rights. Who is that? 470 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: Real? 471 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: Grandparents' rights are back? 472 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: I feel like grandparents' rights aren't a real thing. 473 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: I think we did a little bit not to de 474 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 3: driving for but from my memory, it was more talking 475 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 3: about if the parents pass away them like claiming the 476 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: children or something like that. 477 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't be wrong. 478 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: Though California law recognizes the role of grandparents is a 479 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 5: child's life and allows them to seek visitation and cutstudies 480 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 5: in certain circumstances, the court will consider the following factors 481 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: bond between the grandparent child best interests of the child 482 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: rights to the parents. 483 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: It seems like and you know, maybe their case is 484 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: not a good one, but they can bring a case 485 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: for it. It's like, hey, there are certain things where 486 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 3: it's like because imagine this. There's parents that are like 487 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: really crappy and they're like, no, but I want the kid, 488 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 3: you know, and they're putting in an unsafe environment, and 489 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 3: the grandparents like, no, I'm going to sue you for 490 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: the legal rights to make sure they're in my place. 491 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: But they didn't want the kids in. 492 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: The first place. 493 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: Why are they suing. 494 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: I think for the older daughters, not the twin babies. 495 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Suing for the older daughters. 496 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Opie's cut them off and they're like, oh, 497 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: well now we don't get to see them. 498 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: They're also suing for custody, so not just grandparents' rights, custody. 499 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: What But they didn't want him in the first place. 500 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: No, there these are the daughters. 501 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: Oh, the daughters are the inlaws. 502 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: These are the in laws. So there's there's the affair 503 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: partner parents, So the grandparents are the babies, and then 504 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: there's the in laws. Op's in laws, the. 505 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: Woman who was cheating with his parents, and then her 506 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: husband and. 507 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: Her husband's parents and those that her ex husband's parents 508 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: are suing for access to Ope's daughters. Oh goodness, and 509 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: they're suing for custody. Apparently they are planning to leave 510 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: their assisted living which they really shouldn't, to buy a 511 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: house that allows kids to get the twins back, and 512 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: now also want custody of my daughters. So they want 513 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: the twins and the daughters. 514 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: After not wanting any kids, any kids at all. 515 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: And also, let me just just reiterate, they are moving 516 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: out of assisted living, which is where you go to 517 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: a place where people take care of you, to go 518 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: on their own to take care of four kids. They 519 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: moved into a place because they couldn't take care of themselves. 520 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: And they're like, nah, I'm gonna move to another place 521 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: and take care of four kids. How does that make sense? 522 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: Not gonna work? 523 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: How does that make sense? It does not make sense 524 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: at all. That's how my lawyer and I both suspect 525 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: my in laws want the girls to parentify them as 526 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: caretakers for the twins. Okay, so when I said previously 527 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: about them wanting like assistant living, that's still true. They 528 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: just don't want to pay for the assistant living and 529 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: instead want the daughters to do it for them. 530 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: Ah, so the daughters become the the daughters take care 531 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 3: of the twins and the parents. The daughters are now 532 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: the parents the teen daughters or other parents. 533 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Since my in laws have mobility limitations, it would be 534 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: a cold day and hell before that happens. I don't 535 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: see Child Protective Services placing the boys with them to 536 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: begin with. Not all is bad news. I'm starting therapy 537 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: next week and my eldest daughter is once again speaking 538 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: about colleges she wants to go to. We still haven't 539 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: really talked about their father or have had them agree 540 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: to visit his grave. I myself haven't gone there, and 541 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying really hard to get used to not calling 542 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: him my husband anymore. I had nothing to do with 543 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: the funeral plans aside paying bills, and from what I heard, 544 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: his parents had on the epitaph devouted and beloved husband, 545 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: father and son written on it. I find it a joke. 546 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: I know it's bad to hold so much anger and resentment, 547 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: but as soon as I have time, I plan to 548 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: change his tombstone to remove husband and father? Can you 549 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: even do that? 550 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: I would leave that alone. 551 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: I would leave that It might sound petty, but I 552 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: refuse to speak well of a cheater and abuser just 553 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: because he's that feels like it goes a little bit 554 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: afar to me. 555 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: Changing the tombstone is too much. 556 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: Especially what she she didn't pay to pay for the tombstone. 557 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: This was something that she paid some bills, but she 558 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: she know had She had nothing to do with the 559 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: funeral plants aside from paying bills. And from what I heard, 560 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: his parents had the epitaph to vote. So yeah, his. 561 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 5: Parents visiting it though, because nobody wanted to take these 562 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: kids in and I don't think anyone's ever going to 563 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: visit this grave again. 564 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: Well, the parents, the parents, the parents are gonna. 565 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: Are they gonna notice that it says not that far? Yeah, 566 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: they're gonna say, oh, we made it, let's crow back home. 567 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna care. 568 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: This affects no one. 569 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I understand Opie's bitter, but too much 570 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: has too much, that's too much. 571 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: You don't have to speak good of him. 572 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: If you were asking, would I be the a hole 573 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: for disgracing the grave? Yes, you would be the a 574 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: hole for that. My daughters deserved that, and so did I, 575 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: and for anyone complaining about me changing the tombstone. I 576 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: paid for everything at the end. Oh oh he did 577 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: pay for it. 578 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: They just chose that. 579 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Still I still think of like, this is not. 580 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: Worth it for you. I don't know what are you 581 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: gonna do? Hire a person bringing it. 582 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I mean she had Yeah. 583 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: She's starting to tink tink tink. 584 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: So stick your complaints you know where. I don't think 585 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: I'll post an update until the whole mess with the 586 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: grandparents writes lawsuit is resolved. So to the kind people 587 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: that have sent support to me my daughters, thank you 588 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: so much. Maybe I'll have good news in the future. 589 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: But for now, I'm going to back to my old 590 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: Reddit accounts. To the person that private messaged me that 591 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: I will regret not adopting the twins, I don't regret 592 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: it one bit. Please either post a public message or 593 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: leave me alone. I don't deal with cowords that use 594 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: pms to avoid being judge. There is an update. There 595 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: are more comments. Oh and right now eighty two percent 596 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: of you are saying that Opie would not be the 597 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: a hole for going in the middle of the night 598 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: to take away the beloved part. 599 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: No, just the husband and father part. 600 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: Oh take away your husband out devout. 601 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are they gonna say back to it, yeah, 602 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: very riley. 603 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: So it's gonna say devoted and beloved son son. 604 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, with the big space in between. 605 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: Going back to the we got some comments. So does 606 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: everyone forget that you're a single mom with two kids 607 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: and they want to add you two more and babies 608 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: on top of that? Tell them to kick rocks? Okay? 609 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: External seven nine you're a four says they're only five months. 610 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: If I read that correctly, wouldn't it be great if 611 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: some lovely couple who've been waiting and waiting to adopt 612 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: could be could be considered to be their parents. It's 613 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: very sad if they can't be with their biofamily, but 614 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: that's how it worked out. They could still be loved 615 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: and have a great life. OPI is not the a hole. 616 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: Nien Nitz says, kids that young whose parents died should 617 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: be adoptable rather than going to foster care. While not 618 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: long term foster care. Whoever is their guardian should be 619 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: arranging that, not Ope.