Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
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Speaker 1: coming to you from New York, another edition All the Smoke.
Speaker 1: Jack was good, man, Let's continue to make this thing
Speaker 1: blow like we've been doing. Let's not right now, Let's
Speaker 1: keep it at we've been rolling. Man. We got one
Speaker 1: of my favorites, sumone to me who never got the
Speaker 1: respect and appreciation. I think a lot of us think
Speaker 1: he deserved a man. Welcome to the show, jad Kiss.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you man. Long time it seemed like I should
Speaker 1: have been up there. So Yonkers. For those who new
Speaker 1: New York, similar energy, completely different. Talk to us about
Speaker 1: your upbringing and uh where you're from. Bunting and raised
Speaker 1: yank Is, New York about fifteen twenty minutes with traffic
Speaker 1: from the city. We always had a chip, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a chip on our shoulder because they always um,
Speaker 1: you listened to the Ready and the rest in peace,
Speaker 1: the Heavy d He came out of Mount Vernon and
Speaker 1: he was like the first big thing out of Westchester.
Speaker 1: That's our area. Uh, as far as you know, having
Speaker 1: entertainment success and then um, growing up we listened to
Speaker 1: the radio, it would always shot out the five Barrels
Speaker 1: and then skip us and shot out Mount Vernon, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then New Rochelle Have the
Speaker 1: brand New Being came out, and Grand Pooba and brand
Speaker 1: new By and then came out. So we're like, why
Speaker 1: didn't that we shot out Yank's like, we got some
Speaker 1: talent here, you mean. So then fast forward Mary m
Speaker 1: hm X ourselves. He was able to put our demographic
Speaker 1: on the map and then let people see that Yaks
Speaker 1: is really like a gumbo of the five Barrows. That's
Speaker 1: a little bit of Brooklyn feel to it, a little
Speaker 1: bit of the Bronx, a little bit of all a
Speaker 1: little bit of clean, a little bit Long Islands. That man,
Speaker 1: it's like a gumball of Walt drive around you. You
Speaker 1: see some projects, you see some houses, you see it
Speaker 1: looks crazy, but um for the most part is it's
Speaker 1: like anywhere else, just ten twenty minutes from the city
Speaker 1: that it took us to put it out there. Every day. Blive,
Speaker 1: you've been there. I've been to yall cause I sure have.
Speaker 1: I pulled up. You gotta get Maddie be over there.
Speaker 1: Talk about early life and having hit the streets that
Speaker 1: we have to earn money. We all know how to go,
Speaker 1: but to walk with us to your teen nigers. I
Speaker 1: was fortunate to have both parents. My family is like
Speaker 1: a split. I mean, like my dad's side is they
Speaker 1: all have college degrees. My mom's side is like more
Speaker 1: like the beas least from from schools. With duc they
Speaker 1: all it's like the criminal side. So I was able
Speaker 1: to have a balance to text the buffalo, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know, anything I ever did in
Speaker 1: the street, I didn't really have to do it. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody got that story. Oh I came home, it was
Speaker 1: nothing in the fridge and salute to those that had
Speaker 1: to do that. I pretty much was I and just
Speaker 1: a little mischievous on the upcoming and wanted to earn
Speaker 1: some of my own money. I mean, so I sold
Speaker 1: a few things that would in retail. About it retail, hotail?
Speaker 1: Where did you discover rapping? I discovered it maybe like
Speaker 1: eight nine years old, out of one of my older
Speaker 1: j's in the hood, Steve tune Uh. He lived his parents.
Speaker 1: His family lived like one flight up from my grandma's crib,
Speaker 1: So I was always over my grandmother's crib. And then
Speaker 1: he just grabbed me to his crib one day, started
Speaker 1: playing some breakbeats, gave me the mike and like, I'm DJ,
Speaker 1: and you're wrapping, you know, I mean, so I'll just
Speaker 1: be rapping. And I think I really started getting good
Speaker 1: at it. I snapping on my friends, you know, snapping
Speaker 1: on people watching the Jeffersons, looking George, chopping on Mr
Speaker 1: Bentley and him and I I guess something just clicked
Speaker 1: in there then. I was always loved music like from
Speaker 1: sugar Hill Gang. I think when I graduated Kenny Gardener
Speaker 1: PreK Kenney Garden going in the first grade, one of
Speaker 1: them I'm Moving Up gift was the sugar Hill vinyl
Speaker 1: in a little radio. So I think my mom even
Speaker 1: knew datter. You know. I was like to hip bap
Speaker 1: love and just kept me in the field. When did
Speaker 1: us chic and styles p come into your life? Chic
Speaker 1: was always in my life, Like I just told you,
Speaker 1: I used to wrap with my old g Steve tune
Speaker 1: Um that lived one flight up from my grandmother's she's
Speaker 1: grandmother and one building over from that. So and like coincidentally,
Speaker 1: when his mom would drive him off my mama, we
Speaker 1: would always see each other when we was, you know,
Speaker 1: in the presence of our grandma, and then I started him.
Speaker 1: I think I brought him upstairs one day like yo,
Speaker 1: look this is what we're doing. It's something clicked in
Speaker 1: him and he started rapping. Another coincidence, his mom had
Speaker 1: moved across town and my mom moved, so we moved
Speaker 1: to the scene. We end up living one corner away
Speaker 1: from each other. Our grandma's that moved from that demographic
Speaker 1: across town to three or five four, which became d
Speaker 1: block car washing, and they moved in the same building now,
Speaker 1: so then here she lived on the first floor of
Speaker 1: my grandmother. So it was meant for us to just
Speaker 1: be be around and then them. We was experimenting with
Speaker 1: local DJs in in y oh. Then I think we
Speaker 1: got to Junior Hio High School, we met up with
Speaker 1: p and he just got down with us, you know,
Speaker 1: wrapping in the launch room, banging on the table, was
Speaker 1: wrapping in between periods. We just started clicking up stabs
Speaker 1: out a job at odd Jobs. We did a heist
Speaker 1: and stole about two thousand cassette tapes, printing them up.
Speaker 1: He was selling them in school for like fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: and they were selling them. That was like our first
Speaker 1: bomb Squad tape. That was the name of us back
Speaker 1: then that we had out there, but it was ringing
Speaker 1: in y oh. And then after that, you know, we
Speaker 1: just kept evolved. So you guys former group originally called
Speaker 1: the Warlocks. A freestyle battle in Florida attracted rough Riders.
Speaker 1: Um tell us how inspired? Uh? Inspirational? Mary J. What's
Speaker 1: see you personally? But really I need to meet up
Speaker 1: about what we're talking about. It. First we met rest
Speaker 1: in Piece of DMX ex Borel rough Riders to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's he bought him to our blocked in my little deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah he boy didn't watch straight to the block popped out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to the O G S. Yeah, he bought
Speaker 1: explot being wide to the block to meet us and
Speaker 1: just made us rhyme and told him these they're going
Speaker 1: with me. And that's how that happened. And then, like
Speaker 1: I told you before, when we started getting better, after
Speaker 1: we were selling the tapes in high school for fifteen dollars.
Speaker 1: Once we started, you know, we was hustling and then
Speaker 1: making money to go to the studio to start, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to prepare demo. Um, what's crazy about that is
Speaker 1: Hove was making reasonable doubt in the next room as
Speaker 1: we was making our locks demo. Hole was making reasonable
Speaker 1: doubt in the next room. Did y'all know him before,
Speaker 1: I mean we met him. We would see him in
Speaker 1: the pool hall in the pool area walking by Um
Speaker 1: jazz Oh. We knew jazz Oh he had he had
Speaker 1: production on our demo, so he kind of like introduced
Speaker 1: us the whole He was able to meet promo. So
Speaker 1: um yeah, once once we did record the demo and
Speaker 1: we felt it was good enough. One of our right
Speaker 1: hand buddies and the entouragers, Mary's first cousin, my mayor
Speaker 1: Jamarco j Bob, So it was just a pass off.
Speaker 1: We got to take the Bob. He gave it to Mary.
Speaker 1: They happened to be on tour with Joe to see Mary,
Speaker 1: Joe to see Puff. I think Junior Mafia bone thugs
Speaker 1: whoever they said they popped in on on the tour bus.
Speaker 1: Puff is loving it. They set up with me and
Speaker 1: m J called yo, guys, I love y'all know strange
Speaker 1: and I don't want nothing off. He wants to meet
Speaker 1: child and then resisted. Loving Jake's I love I need
Speaker 1: to meet up. Bro. I love Mary Jake. You made it.
Speaker 1: It's like you already know. And that's how that's how
Speaker 1: much love she gives them. You know, it's dope. I
Speaker 1: had to explain. When I played for the Clippers, she
Speaker 1: used to come to some games and I remember I
Speaker 1: was sitting in the front row before the game tie
Speaker 1: my shoe and someone sits down next to me. I
Speaker 1: don't even know, and I'm doing my ship. I look over.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like that right. She's like, Hi,
Speaker 1: it is that man honored the meat. Anyway, back to
Speaker 1: the story, what was it like get the first regort deal?
Speaker 1: What that feeling was like? Yeah, my first record deal
Speaker 1: was a feeling like no other because coming from is
Speaker 1: a is a discouraging place sometimes like a dog cloud
Speaker 1: we call it. That stays there permanent, and nobody really
Speaker 1: believes in. Nobody really thinks you're gonna make it. That's
Speaker 1: why they say when you when you when you're starting
Speaker 1: off of business or you're doing something, if you can
Speaker 1: get earn your love from where you at first, the
Speaker 1: rest of the world would be easy. And once we
Speaker 1: felt like that about Yanker so once we got them
Speaker 1: to kind of dig us, it wasn't that hard. We
Speaker 1: were sitting around right rhymes that we would just want
Speaker 1: Biggie to hear like me and styles and loops like yo,
Speaker 1: right this round. We haven't meet Biggie, I want to
Speaker 1: say this rhyme to him. So then getting on Bad Boy,
Speaker 1: it was like the best thing in the world that happened.
Speaker 1: And once we was able to get down with big
Speaker 1: you know something that was like a dream come true
Speaker 1: to us. We felt like we was on the unstoppable team.
Speaker 1: But we were still young, still went behind the ears
Speaker 1: and still didn't understanding business. And the more that we
Speaker 1: learned the business and learned about them, you know, the
Speaker 1: fokery is when you know we made that transition. But
Speaker 1: being on Bad Boy, it was one of the best
Speaker 1: times in our life. We we had some of the
Speaker 1: best times. We learned some jewels that we're still able
Speaker 1: to apply to this day. To take care of our family.
Speaker 1: Puff is a special individual that when he when he
Speaker 1: got love for you to help you out, show you something.
Speaker 1: My brother, my brother, I've been with loaning a lot. Lady.
Speaker 1: I used to send a lot of stories about just
Speaker 1: be highly you. We used to send a lot of
Speaker 1: stories about bad Boy back in the day when you
Speaker 1: are first starting up skilled. It's crazy. It's like it
Speaker 1: had to be like going to one of the best
Speaker 1: colleges at the best time in the world, like the parties.
Speaker 1: This just the rollout was like Noah, with the money
Speaker 1: that I was being spent and then the golden that
Speaker 1: I called it is was just crazy. You touched on
Speaker 1: obviously aspiring to get your music too Big. You get
Speaker 1: a chance to meet Big and you and him built
Speaker 1: a special relationship. Talked to us about your relationship with
Speaker 1: Bit like I tell some of the artists that I
Speaker 1: talked to today to asked me, you know, things about
Speaker 1: the game. Being able to sit there with Big it
Speaker 1: was priceless, you know what I mean. Being able to
Speaker 1: be in the studio sessions, Being able to be on
Speaker 1: Life after Death, which only has a few futures a
Speaker 1: few features, is priceless. Um. He took care, took care
Speaker 1: of Junior Mafia, He took care a lot of people.
Speaker 1: He was very funny, dude. He was very His work
Speaker 1: ethic was crazy, His energy was beautiful. He's just a
Speaker 1: good guy, like a good you know, a good guy
Speaker 1: that that really shook the game up while he was here,
Speaker 1: and then after his untimely demise, like um, when that
Speaker 1: happened to him, that was our first time in l A.
Speaker 1: So that was lituis like, that was the first time.
Speaker 1: That's our first time. Then we end up party. He
Speaker 1: was actually young and he was a little mad that night.
Speaker 1: He came over to him on you know that last
Speaker 1: picture that you've seen with the King that had in
Speaker 1: that in the party in l A. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: if y'all gotta shake that ship off whatever y'all whatever
Speaker 1: I got with puff and handled it back home. It
Speaker 1: goes zip. Gave us two dom P's say, yo, it's
Speaker 1: my single release man and ship to get your energy right.
Speaker 1: We we am man, Let's have some fun. So we
Speaker 1: went over there and then that was the last time
Speaker 1: we talked to him, so you know, that was crazy,
Speaker 1: and then we just wanted to use to turn the
Speaker 1: negative to a positive and just represent his legacy forever.
Speaker 1: That's what we still do. What was it like, Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast guy, California guy, and you know,
Speaker 1: growing up in the era where there was so much
Speaker 1: back and forth between East and West you become a
Speaker 1: bad boy label made with big when that East and
Speaker 1: West Coast ship was going on, where was your head?
Speaker 1: That wasn't really like the media trying to make it see,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really always this, this, this, or what it did?
Speaker 1: The media make that more than what it was. I
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of everything. Good thing. Social
Speaker 1: media wasn't yet worse, but I think I think the
Speaker 1: media definitely hyped it up. I think some of the
Speaker 1: higher powers that we don't even know about were involved
Speaker 1: with that. I think that was just a sad, something
Speaker 1: sad that happened at the right time, which happened to
Speaker 1: be the wrong time. It's big love. We used to act,
Speaker 1: he spoke, he worshiped there and there the ground pipe
Speaker 1: used to love Pock used to give him Jews and
Speaker 1: he would tell us stories for days about so I
Speaker 1: knew for a fact that he loved them, genuinely loved them.
Speaker 1: So when all that stuff happened, it was a little
Speaker 1: bit crazy to us, and we was we missed it,
Speaker 1: and like you know, we came a little bit after that.
Speaker 1: We started blossoming after that because then you know, Park
Speaker 1: never he didn't know about us like that in the Outlaws,
Speaker 1: and they never said anything about the Locks because we
Speaker 1: came after that. But just to be there and see that,
Speaker 1: I think I might have been with Big out a
Speaker 1: total video Missing You remix the first time he heard
Speaker 1: hit him up though. When he got somebody passed it
Speaker 1: to him and put it in. I think I was
Speaker 1: damn when he first laid airs on that. And he
Speaker 1: wasn't even really mad. He was more mad at this
Speaker 1: stuff they were saying about season Kim opposed to the
Speaker 1: to the song itself, it didn't it didn't ruffle his facts.
Speaker 1: He was more upset about what they were saying about
Speaker 1: this little man and the Queen Bee. That's how That's
Speaker 1: how much he was for the team. Yeah, yeah, even
Speaker 1: worried about him. Yeah, you release your solo album with
Speaker 1: with Locks of money power and respect. What was that like? Finding, uh,
Speaker 1: finally being on money power respect. It was beautiful just
Speaker 1: to have an album out there on bad Boy Records,
Speaker 1: heavy heavy promotion. Yeah. How good he's able to have
Speaker 1: them Max featuring on their little Kim on the Hook.
Speaker 1: How was like a big look for three boys from
Speaker 1: Yankis you know what I mean? It was very grateful.
Speaker 1: He was able to go on tour, the No Way
Speaker 1: Out Tour. It's one of the best tours I've ever
Speaker 1: been on in my life. Just the whole experience was priceless.
Speaker 1: Over you said you learned a lot, but you felt
Speaker 1: it was time to to to leave bad Boy. What
Speaker 1: was that experience like, were you leaving into another situation?
Speaker 1: You were just we got to get up out of this,
Speaker 1: what's find out what's next? It was crazy about that
Speaker 1: whole thing is like I told you, X bored us
Speaker 1: two Rough Riders. He was the big dog. We was
Speaker 1: fortunate to get the record deal first. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. If we didn't have real love, that could
Speaker 1: have went all wrong because he could have been like
Speaker 1: I put these on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But he wasn't. We We knew it was family style.
Speaker 1: We threw him on money Power Respected single, which is
Speaker 1: a video when the first video that we have a
Speaker 1: shot in yonkers Um after that surely Can't Get at
Speaker 1: Me Dog, which let him they get his his death
Speaker 1: Jam deal and let Rough Riders get a label. So
Speaker 1: while we caught the first deal on bad Boy, Rough
Speaker 1: Riders was always our manage it. So once the ball
Speaker 1: started rolling and now they got the label. We couldn't
Speaker 1: wait to go back over there because that was like
Speaker 1: just going back home. So then with the Turmoilo and
Speaker 1: bad Boy, we're like, we gotta try to get back
Speaker 1: to the crib and you know, with the powers of
Speaker 1: the Lord and power excuse me and you know people,
Speaker 1: we made it back. How did puff hounding all that? Though?
Speaker 1: I mean it was a little weak and me being
Speaker 1: holder down and understanding, you know, and being a businessman.
Speaker 1: We were a little disgrunt through. We were we was
Speaker 1: a little radical, but we knew only power we had
Speaker 1: with the streets, right, We couldn't go into a litigation.
Speaker 1: War is money is like people from Schaft trained moment
Speaker 1: he tried to go to the court. Yeah, he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna win that. So we we we definitely had at
Speaker 1: me and it sat down and say, Yo, this could
Speaker 1: go right or left, and if it goes the wrong way,
Speaker 1: we can be shelved. We could never put the album
Speaker 1: out again. We could It's a is a side to
Speaker 1: this that can be horrible, horrible for us, and we
Speaker 1: just rolled the dice and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Fortunately it worked out years later. What's that relationship like
Speaker 1: with you and him personally. He just called in over
Speaker 1: the day. That's that's big bro Um. I'm glad now
Speaker 1: that we were able to work it out and we
Speaker 1: actually got tighter off that opposed to it being a
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, supposedly going wrong, we actually got tighter.
Speaker 1: We go to his crib and we go to you
Speaker 1: still do toys and shows with him, hang out with
Speaker 1: him as the whole room. Still cool, everybody still cool,
Speaker 1: Still cool. Talk to us about your relationship with X dog.
Speaker 1: The dog was just different, man, The dog was different.
Speaker 1: The dog had come through and get out and go
Speaker 1: to the liquor storm and sit there and miss an
Speaker 1: old movie set or something. Just off the love like
Speaker 1: his love. Whoever met the dog, if you ever a
Speaker 1: lot of chance to meet him, you felt like you
Speaker 1: know him the same like marry him and Mary got
Speaker 1: a similar possana after you meet him, like you you
Speaker 1: felt like you know. And that's just how the dog was.
Speaker 1: He was. He didn't care about money, he didn't care
Speaker 1: about fame. He just cared about genuine love. Oh men, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've said it. Yesterday we had Joe on the show
Speaker 1: I Gotta I was a big time DMX fan, I
Speaker 1: gotta tattoo or something. He said, if my life ain't long,
Speaker 1: I thank all my last breaths of my life ain't wrong.
Speaker 1: And I was able to meet him two weeks before
Speaker 1: he died at Ice Box in Atlanta. He didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance when you tell him what I wanted to say,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm I was. I was starstruck
Speaker 1: when I saw him, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet him and just feel
Speaker 1: the energy. Man, He's definitely a legend. Gonna be missed. Man,
Speaker 1: Rest in peace. What was the turning point for you
Speaker 1: after experience group success with folks who came up with
Speaker 1: what made the decision to to jump to solo and
Speaker 1: give that a shot? Was this decision all y'all made
Speaker 1: it one time to do solo projects? Are because she
Speaker 1: she didn't never really planning on Doom, just like the
Speaker 1: people forced him and like you gotta do this, and
Speaker 1: he's like all right, you know me, but me, I
Speaker 1: think they had it in the works early. Um once
Speaker 1: rough Friday's got the label, when we we had got
Speaker 1: off bat Boy and then we was on and the
Speaker 1: Scope Records. I think D and why Steve Stout in
Speaker 1: them always added in the plan. Uh, George J. D.
Speaker 1: Kiss soolo Like then we were we used to be
Speaker 1: extra cool. You know we still we don't. We signed
Speaker 1: that Rock Nation now as management, but like then we
Speaker 1: was double law in the rock was really controlling everything.
Speaker 1: And I used to be messing with Dane, like, yo,
Speaker 1: let me get a solo deal over it. He used
Speaker 1: to be like, yo, right, whenever you're ready, just come
Speaker 1: by and be and it would be like stop saying
Speaker 1: that back a family, Yeah, talk to us about I mean,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I mean it's in it's in the news
Speaker 1: right now. The unfortunate situation with Damon Jay is kind
Speaker 1: of translated to this and Day wants to sell this.
Speaker 1: But what back then? What was that? Did it? Dame
Speaker 1: one did? He really was the energy like back then.
Speaker 1: I don't really like to see none of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. I didn't ship sweaters
Speaker 1: or come up with them from the clubhouse, but I did.
Speaker 1: I wasn't around when they were shuper tighten, when everything
Speaker 1: was loving, dynamic doing mean when yeah, so you know
Speaker 1: that's just something I like to stay away from. But
Speaker 1: I was actual, Yeah, the trio, Big in the Hole,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know that's a
Speaker 1: that's a story that with nobody or whatever. No, unless
Speaker 1: you sit down with all of them, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And when when the media likes to give
Speaker 1: you that side of it, my best thing is to
Speaker 1: stay out of them, because you know, I got love
Speaker 1: between respect that the debut Alnam Kissed the Game Goodbye.
Speaker 1: Remember that was my second year in college. Went hard.
Speaker 1: What was it like? I mean, you came out the
Speaker 1: gates with you know, just a you know, strong producers,
Speaker 1: you know, features from ex eve Snoop Nas, work with Swiss.
Speaker 1: Like I told you, that was the golden that Blowing
Speaker 1: Back did just I think that that album we made
Speaker 1: it we recorded in the South Beach. I think it
Speaker 1: was in one of al Capone's old cribs. The energy
Speaker 1: was right, Oh yeah, We're down there for a few
Speaker 1: months recording, just living, blowing money. Then I got a
Speaker 1: nice percentage of the album done, came back to New
Speaker 1: York for maybe a week, then we went to l A.
Speaker 1: I finished it up in l A. Had crazy promotion.
Speaker 1: The promotion was out of this world for that album.
Speaker 1: It was just a golden that they knew Jimmy wasn't
Speaker 1: telling me no, D and why I wasn't telling me no?
Speaker 1: It was just yes davery every budget was getting approved.
Speaker 1: A lot of it was It's like they was doing
Speaker 1: P P P loans back then. Everything was everything was
Speaker 1: greenly two thousand four years, second album, Kiss, Kiss the
Speaker 1: Death reached his number one on the Billboard Top two Hunter,
Speaker 1: what was it like being number one? That felt great?
Speaker 1: That's like my mom. Yeah, was heavy, you know back then,
Speaker 1: and I think it was a fourth quarter release, went
Speaker 1: back then only the fourth you know, you had to
Speaker 1: got to be a juggernaut to release in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: So I was really thankful what I was really too
Speaker 1: in my horn and I really felt like I made
Speaker 1: my entrance into the game, even though I still never
Speaker 1: got that just due like like mat I said, like
Speaker 1: the solidification that I'm supposed to have. But I think
Speaker 1: that Kissing that album um and got nominated for a
Speaker 1: Grammy with why it was just that was very susced.
Speaker 1: That was like my baby, that's like my baby out
Speaker 1: of my Why was the game changing? You talk to
Speaker 1: us about why how that came together working with Anthony
Speaker 1: Hamilton's I think the song Why I was in my
Speaker 1: brain maybe nine to six months before I ever even
Speaker 1: thought about making it. The song just some question. I
Speaker 1: just used to always have wild questions, and like, what
Speaker 1: do I'm making a song called Why? I wondered people
Speaker 1: want to know the same questions that keep calling in
Speaker 1: my brain? Then, um, something else people don't know? Having
Speaker 1: produced one from my d I don't need that sounds
Speaker 1: like fall left from having production. But he has sent
Speaker 1: me a bat pack and I got that. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I think this is the track pressing piece ice Pick
Speaker 1: from like Pick. I think this is the tract for Why.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, just try it and then you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I laid them. I had to start thinking
Speaker 1: to some questions that the whole world would. I would
Speaker 1: think we have some similarities and want to know. Got
Speaker 1: Anthony Hamilton on the hook. The rest was history in
Speaker 1: the In the song, you have a line about George
Speaker 1: Bush playing the Nana not eleven attacks. How did you
Speaker 1: handle the controversy that they came with a real question
Speaker 1: that a lot of people wanted to know, but you
Speaker 1: have the encourage to put it on there. We sat
Speaker 1: down and thought about that carefully and we're like, yo,
Speaker 1: maybe it won't reach them, but if it does, that
Speaker 1: means yeah. So once we started getting ladders and emails
Speaker 1: from the White House, and Bill o'rilly made it a
Speaker 1: whole segmental like yo, he did it. Just be careful.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta ride clean and we gotta movie. He
Speaker 1: reached the radar. You know it was good though you've
Speaker 1: been that bad boy rough riders. What made you sign
Speaker 1: with Jason Labor Rocket for the records? We're managed by
Speaker 1: rock Nation and yeah, it just managed. He was also
Speaker 1: the president of the Depth Chym for a while when
Speaker 1: I first went over there. That's what got me over there. Action.
Speaker 1: Oh it was a good guy that that keeps it
Speaker 1: under the stayed low with it. But as hard as
Speaker 1: huge here helping anybody out, I mean, at least for
Speaker 1: the at least for the most part on my part,
Speaker 1: never had to really ask him for nothing serious. But
Speaker 1: I always like an ace and old I ever really
Speaker 1: needed something life changing, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: does stuff and he looks for no accolades. He not
Speaker 1: trying to set up the press confidence just talk about
Speaker 1: the things that he does. And I think it's hard
Speaker 1: to find individuals like everybody wants to credit for helping
Speaker 1: somebody or everybody want to look what I did over
Speaker 1: all that type of time, And I just think that's
Speaker 1: special to come from the ground, I mean from the
Speaker 1: b from the dirt and being able to rub shoulders
Speaker 1: with the people. He's able to the rooms, he's able
Speaker 1: to get in now and not change as a as
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Fourth album, top five that are alive.
Speaker 1: You're able to release that of the d block records,
Speaker 1: what was it like, We're not gonna release something your ship.
Speaker 1: I think the ultimate goal at the end of the
Speaker 1: day is to have some ownership, you know, to work
Speaker 1: for yourself. You know y'all relate to that, you know,
Speaker 1: with the owners and being players. I'm always for the players.
Speaker 1: I'm always for the artists. Is a lot of times
Speaker 1: these labels, these executives, these bigger entities, they make more
Speaker 1: of up off us than we do. So it's cool
Speaker 1: when somebody gives you an opportunity to, you know, change
Speaker 1: your life financially. But I thought, while you want to
Speaker 1: be born the ownership side than just the work all,
Speaker 1: you want to become a partner. So you know, we
Speaker 1: was able to work things out with rough Riders, and
Speaker 1: that's a vision that we always had and the work
Speaker 1: for ourselves, and that's what it is. You've had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to work with some of the best in the game.
Speaker 1: You know what has it been like collapsing with some
Speaker 1: of the young bright minds and you know now that
Speaker 1: you're an o G looking back on it, well respected
Speaker 1: in the game. Of course. I think collaborations and working
Speaker 1: with all the artists is something that's missing in the
Speaker 1: music industry right now. And that that we came up
Speaker 1: off that you love hearing them symphonies in the house
Speaker 1: and different ones, you know what I mean, from the
Speaker 1: symphony with mall malling them from the scenario, any any
Speaker 1: of them, type of songs of self destruction with everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those were those were the joints back then. Then. I
Speaker 1: guess once the the finances changing, dudes start getting money,
Speaker 1: they started getting a little selfish and and um it
Speaker 1: hurts the culture pos that you just thinking, yo, we
Speaker 1: just hot over here. We don't need to work with that.
Speaker 1: The fans went their head different varieties and different you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, different things together and it makes
Speaker 1: some beautiful art. Music is all at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, so you need to do it, but you
Speaker 1: would come from your heart. For one of my bucket
Speaker 1: lists collapses to do a song with Stevie Wonder and
Speaker 1: Andre three three Stacks got the same birthday, so I'm
Speaker 1: taking a song that would be crazy called birthday or something,
Speaker 1: you know, something crazy Stevie sing, that's that's my bucket list.
Speaker 1: Stacks agreed to do it. Now we just got to
Speaker 1: reach out to Stevie. Yeah, that's gonna be crazy, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be dope. Sixteen you come back together after a
Speaker 1: sixteen year hiatus with the Locks and come out with
Speaker 1: our Filthy America. It's beautiful. What was it like reunite
Speaker 1: with your people? Although I'm sure you gotta stay close,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's crazy because once we started
Speaker 1: doing solo stuff, We're like, yo, he's gonna do a
Speaker 1: solo album each or something. We're gonna get right back
Speaker 1: to it. That turned into sixteen years later. You just
Speaker 1: start doing toys, you start having kids, you start life
Speaker 1: doing it, and then we always have the group meeting
Speaker 1: and board met and you know we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: and do it, never do it. When we dropped the
Speaker 1: Filthy America just like we we happen to be in
Speaker 1: a studio a lot at a certain time, and we're
Speaker 1: just like we gotta drop some my ep so. But
Speaker 1: we never we was always together all the time. We
Speaker 1: always on the studio, We always see each other a
Speaker 1: few times a week. You never, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We were really big on keeping the bond tight as
Speaker 1: you want, separators from every other group. No social media
Speaker 1: slipp it. No body's Twitter got hacked. No, I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna come on a platform like this and throw my
Speaker 1: brothers under the bus or anything remotely close to that.
Speaker 1: So that's what That's one thing I can say about y'all,
Speaker 1: Like minimal beasts, if if one or two, but just
Speaker 1: find one, can't find one other. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what to my minimal beasts outside of the lot.
Speaker 1: Even with y'all, y'all one group that even though y'all
Speaker 1: took highest highest, y'all always stayed firm, stay supporting each
Speaker 1: other and stayed together. And that's that's where a lot
Speaker 1: of people should should respect in the game, because you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, when money come, you know, you look
Speaker 1: at the hot boys. You know what I'm saying, different
Speaker 1: things happen when they separate. You know a lot lot
Speaker 1: of stuff can happen when money is involved. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that y'all, how y'all stayed together
Speaker 1: with all your different personality, that says a lot about
Speaker 1: how your brotherhood. When we first signed the first deal,
Speaker 1: we we made an oath that we would let no
Speaker 1: music industry or none of that type of stuff intertwine
Speaker 1: and where we already building, keep it tight and keep
Speaker 1: your family staff Friday on the Elm Street. Uh to me,
Speaker 1: Fabris right there with you. As far as not getting
Speaker 1: the just do in the credit that y'all put in, Man,
Speaker 1: thatd y'all put into this brother spins off. How did that?
Speaker 1: How did that idea come about? Um? We was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's his nickname. He was doing the um he was.
Speaker 1: He was doing these Friday night mixtape joints with Clue,
Speaker 1: Like these freestyles he was dropping every Friday night. It
Speaker 1: was super dope. I'm like, yo, I got to get
Speaker 1: in on that, but I wanted to find my own thing.
Speaker 1: So I call Envy and say, yo, I'm gonna drop
Speaker 1: some ships on Friday morning. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: then it became like everybody be waiting on Friday morning
Speaker 1: and then be waiting Friday night. So we had the
Speaker 1: city and a little frenzy. Um, we have been to
Speaker 1: being an officers somewhere, like y'all got this idea, let's
Speaker 1: do this, Freddie and Jason Joy like, yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: to label, let's get some money off, and you know,
Speaker 1: let's do some merger to do a little toy. Let's
Speaker 1: make it, make it an event. And we did it.
Speaker 1: It was cool. It was cool too. I got you know,
Speaker 1: I got real tighter. Me and him got close off
Speaker 1: that just going through some life issues besides doing the music,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's my little bro. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do another one too. You know that. It was dope.
Speaker 1: What's it like working with someone like that? Though? We
Speaker 1: just you know, it's it's it's not your group, it's
Speaker 1: not your solo, it's you know, one of the homies.
Speaker 1: But you guys going in and knock an album out
Speaker 1: together to put each other, you definitely gotta be able
Speaker 1: to understand them. You definitely gotta be able to vibe.
Speaker 1: You definitely have to be like minded to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: These deep, freshest in the game. Yeah, he coming and
Speaker 1: we're going to do He comes to the studio like
Speaker 1: we're going on stage. Yeah he got No. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing I hated doing the album was going shopping
Speaker 1: with him. You can't stop every day, need you do, dude,
Speaker 1: We gotta do this every day. He gotta go every
Speaker 1: day and find some incredible ship. So other than that,
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. But you gotta be able to be
Speaker 1: around somebody to work with. We did something in my studio,
Speaker 1: We did something. His student flew to Miami and did
Speaker 1: some songs. But if you can't be around, to man,
Speaker 1: you you ain't gonna be able to create in this game.
Speaker 1: You run across beef. Jack Jack spoke that, you know,
Speaker 1: guy's never had no internal beef. But you were part
Speaker 1: of a song with j'all rule New York, uh, and
Speaker 1: that caused us song. What a song he had to
Speaker 1: start with? John got you into it and it turned
Speaker 1: into a little bit for y'all. What talked to us
Speaker 1: about that was that nineties ish was that this old
Speaker 1: little thing was that, like man, I think it was
Speaker 1: a little bit of all of I think Fifth was
Speaker 1: using his marketing because I don't really think I joined
Speaker 1: forces with jobs. Of course we know about John and
Speaker 1: Irvan cash Money Clicking murder in We started out together, damn.
Speaker 1: So we have a relationship. And I think fifth Is
Speaker 1: used that too as a marketing too to do what
Speaker 1: he was doing at the time. Because when I heard
Speaker 1: this song, it was nothing. The song was a good song.
Speaker 1: It was Repy's in New York. Um Cracks was then
Speaker 1: on being featured on it also, so I thought it
Speaker 1: was just a good look for New York that I
Speaker 1: think Fifth Is. I didn't even care. It wasn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have to ask his permission to
Speaker 1: do the song. But I didn't think it was going
Speaker 1: rough for his feathers like that even But like I said,
Speaker 1: he's a smart businessman and a hell of a marketer,
Speaker 1: so he was able to to what he did with
Speaker 1: y'all went back and forth with a couple of different
Speaker 1: songs though. Was it was it competitive nature is? It
Speaker 1: was it awesome for me for me, for me the
Speaker 1: Beanie when I went out, and that one was more
Speaker 1: personal for me because it felt like it felt I
Speaker 1: felt tighter. I didn't I didn't know Fifth when he
Speaker 1: said whatever he said, but it was a little bit.
Speaker 1: It seemed a little weird because before that he got
Speaker 1: a song where he's saying all of the hard and
Speaker 1: was to come from Yankeys, So it's like, what he
Speaker 1: he ain't contradicting yourself a little bit. So I knew
Speaker 1: from that. We knew that it wasn't really like SERI
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't that internal because we knew that
Speaker 1: he was he was checking for us favor, saying that
Speaker 1: one of his songs like you guys later performed uh
Speaker 1: at This is fifty festival and oh nine obviously that
Speaker 1: this the ship has was all you know, dream it um?
Speaker 1: What was that like? Though? Actually working with them after
Speaker 1: it was cool. It was cool. Like I said, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a we knew once and once we ever sat
Speaker 1: down and talked like men, and I handed out it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a short brief thing because it wasn't
Speaker 1: no internal There was no nucleus there. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: something we ain't We ain't from the same hood, We
Speaker 1: don't know the same you know, we know some of
Speaker 1: the same people, but it wasn't like one of them,
Speaker 1: oh grudge that needed to be be solved. I mean
Speaker 1: like him and jobs whatever they had, they still that's
Speaker 1: a different that's an old different thing. And this was
Speaker 1: nothing even mobly close to that. The beef with the rap,
Speaker 1: beef with the basic thing of mine enjoyed because nobody
Speaker 1: got hurt, but just the power and the lyrics it
Speaker 1: was it was real, Bro. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like the best of the events going ball, foot ball.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I I can't lie, Bro,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. I'm glad that, you know, nobody got
Speaker 1: hurt in it. But the song for songs like he
Speaker 1: was waiting for the reply, he was waiting for those replies, bro,
Speaker 1: and that hip hop needed that at the time. I
Speaker 1: can't lie. Hip hop needed that at the time, Bro,
Speaker 1: Everybody needed it. You see. That's that's another thing like
Speaker 1: now it's not much of that because it will get
Speaker 1: overpowered by trolling, tweets and Instagram comedic videos. Opposed to
Speaker 1: back then, you just had to go to the studio
Speaker 1: and load up and then they send the shot. You
Speaker 1: send the shot. But now it's so much other things
Speaker 1: to overpower the music. You can just do content and
Speaker 1: and grass the people like that. So it took away
Speaker 1: from that part of the competitive nature for the music,
Speaker 1: because every since cool Mo dn LLLF, since you can
Speaker 1: go back, there's always been a light feud in the
Speaker 1: airplop that keeps the coach of it. Everybody can get
Speaker 1: involved with nobody getting hurt or no, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. The studio, it'll it'll go outside and that's
Speaker 1: bad for the coach. Yeah. Uh, we spoke before the show,
Speaker 1: but you've got a big versus coming up at the garden.
Speaker 1: I wish we can be there because I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be in I ain't saying styles. Peter is hyping
Speaker 1: a long time pee Pee pee, and Jimmy is on
Speaker 1: they they're doing the twenty four hour seven, a great
Speaker 1: rendition of it they're doing and they're selling this thing
Speaker 1: at the top of the line. Here shout out Jimmy.
Speaker 1: That shout o Jimmy. I talked to Jimmy and Path yesterday,
Speaker 1: but talk about how that came about and and the
Speaker 1: fact that you guys are gonna be in Madison Square
Speaker 1: Garden with a live audience going back and forth with
Speaker 1: your brother. Well, first things first, we're going on Toll
Speaker 1: in September, Locks and Dips at so I think that's
Speaker 1: what that's the that's what people don't know. We um
Speaker 1: we hatta. We had a we had a pre show
Speaker 1: of the tour July three in Norfolk, Virginia. It was great,
Speaker 1: it was sold out, it was great. And then I
Speaker 1: think the talk started happened. I think Tim and Swiss
Speaker 1: seen that and they're like, Yo, this would be good
Speaker 1: for Versus. No, only a couple of groups winning. It
Speaker 1: was R and B group. So for New York. He
Speaker 1: was able to get the Garden just a big thing.
Speaker 1: And then that's gonna help the tour because we're going
Speaker 1: on tour the next few weeks right after Versus. So
Speaker 1: it's so it's all. It's all good for the culture.
Speaker 1: It's good for hip hop, locks and dips. That has
Speaker 1: always been New York groups on the on the top
Speaker 1: level of rap. So you go, we gotta come to Atlanta. Definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to pull up to that. Definitely. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about the Versus matter? You had with fab
Speaker 1: what's the nickname what you called us? This is? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was dope. It was that was more like a
Speaker 1: because we talked about it a few times. They really
Speaker 1: asked us that we want to do it. That wasn't
Speaker 1: like to fight promotives how they're doing all of them.
Speaker 1: They know, you want to go up there with your
Speaker 1: brother and represent your catalog, But then the media and
Speaker 1: the boroughs and your demographics and entourager is always gonna
Speaker 1: put that who's gonna win and this and that, So
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with that party, which I'm cool with.
Speaker 1: H me. I've always been underdog, so I love h
Speaker 1: There was a hashtag and the meme of h Jada
Speaker 1: drunk that then went viral. Special change off that yeah,
Speaker 1: drunk is um um. People my friends and loved ones
Speaker 1: and family, they always saw that side of it. Was
Speaker 1: just that with the camera on that the world never saw.
Speaker 1: I was just in regular forms. Start seeing me like that.
Speaker 1: I was regular legit to the people that know me.
Speaker 1: It was just a shock to those that have never
Speaker 1: seen me have a sip and and and and loosen
Speaker 1: up a little. But it was. It was definitely the
Speaker 1: calls that came to the next day movie scripts and
Speaker 1: liquor endorsements and all type of wow ship you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I saw some merch sold a nice
Speaker 1: amount of merch off that it was dope made a
Speaker 1: beneficial going into that is everything kind of planned out.
Speaker 1: You know, bam bam, bam, what song's gonna play? Are
Speaker 1: you feeling his energy and switching ship out? Like, how
Speaker 1: do you pick what you're gonna perform? You put a
Speaker 1: staff that I got my son over there. I used
Speaker 1: my son. I used poops, which is like to Phil
Speaker 1: Jackson the d Block. We use our DJ and use ourselves.
Speaker 1: We go to the hood actually young and just we
Speaker 1: try to get a whole We get a bunch of
Speaker 1: lists from everybody. We narrow them down, now them down
Speaker 1: some more. We do some or overthinking. We put a
Speaker 1: put a stash list over there. You put a list
Speaker 1: that they might try to come with from over there,
Speaker 1: and then you put your strategy together, you know, twenty
Speaker 1: four hours before that. But doing that from whenever they
Speaker 1: say it helps it out your menace. I definitely was prepping.
Speaker 1: A lot of dudes don't prep like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think preparation is everything, whether there's a celebration,
Speaker 1: a real war, whatever it is, shooting around the real game.
Speaker 1: The preparation got don't be the same for when I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean we're in twenty one right now, what do
Speaker 1: you miss from what you call the Golden era, but
Speaker 1: it's the freedom. Um. I missed the privacy m hm,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean everything that happened then was just
Speaker 1: in there nobody. You can go everywhere, no bunch of
Speaker 1: phones in your face, bunches, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about that. I missed the
Speaker 1: collaborals that we were just talking about, the symphony type
Speaker 1: of songs. I missed that. They don't appreciate the album
Speaker 1: that's prepared on top of the stove opposer a microwave
Speaker 1: run project, you know what I mean. And that's due
Speaker 1: to the money that that the executing that they missed
Speaker 1: not getting with the whole digital wave. So now they
Speaker 1: play catch up and we got to get the short
Speaker 1: into the stick because some business that they fucked. Podcasting,
Speaker 1: you did some work with Kenyan Martin tramart Um. You
Speaker 1: know you off air you spoke about getting possibly your
Speaker 1: own space. What was that experience like and are you
Speaker 1: gonna try to get your own podcasts? Yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: to kmart Um. I think it was dope. It was
Speaker 1: a little it was a little rough because we wasn't
Speaker 1: able to be on location with each other. So sometimes
Speaker 1: you get some problems with it and you get some
Speaker 1: things going crazy, But for the most part, it was dope.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of great feedback. I love talking
Speaker 1: about sports. You know. You know what they say, sports
Speaker 1: dudes and and entertainment day they go end and glove
Speaker 1: with each other. So um, you know, I played sports
Speaker 1: in high school, little league coming up, so I could
Speaker 1: talk sports all day. I rather rather talk sports and music.
Speaker 1: Just the experience of of of letting people see another
Speaker 1: side of you and being able to engage with the people.
Speaker 1: I think it's dope being an athlete coming up. What
Speaker 1: were Who were some of the teams and players you
Speaker 1: admired growing up and still check for these days. I
Speaker 1: love Magic Boom. You know, I love Magic. I was
Speaker 1: a point guard. I love his passes. I love watching birds.
Speaker 1: Then this just basketball and general watching y'all guys come up.
Speaker 1: I've been around when I was. I was in the
Speaker 1: party with you when you was on the sixes. I
Speaker 1: was watching start on um Oak Hill. I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a real fan of basketball and sports in general, more
Speaker 1: so basketball and football. But I really know stuff about
Speaker 1: y'all that y'all probably like, don't you know, I'm being
Speaker 1: I really look into it. I'm really conversation. See, I
Speaker 1: think it's dope because I was such a big fan
Speaker 1: and I even told you that nothing. It's crazy because
Speaker 1: I didn't even know if you remember meeting me, this
Speaker 1: is like oh three, you know, I wasn't even I
Speaker 1: got traded with Webb but fucking Philey, so I was
Speaker 1: doing getting high and remember but I ran into Jady
Speaker 1: Kiss and I don't really ever get star struck. But
Speaker 1: I ran into brom like, oh ship, that's Jenny Kiss
Speaker 1: like that. It was exciting to me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean that I've been a man. I've been I've
Speaker 1: been knowing you. Let match it. This though, how did
Speaker 1: the AI commercial come about? That ship was hard? That
Speaker 1: is the when? The when? Actually, that's that's another thing
Speaker 1: I don't get credit for. One of the first that's
Speaker 1: one of the first spots that went crazy that whenly
Speaker 1: connected with basketball and basketball and accepted it, they broke
Speaker 1: the you know what I mean, Stern had to loose
Speaker 1: enough for that and like, yo, this is a good
Speaker 1: this is good. What you don't know is the reason
Speaker 1: why I was big was because as players are, like okay,
Speaker 1: a I already showed us that we could be who
Speaker 1: we are and not have to change nothing. But now
Speaker 1: he didn't brought one of our favorite rappers that speaking
Speaker 1: for us in the game, brought him to our world.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's why that commercial was
Speaker 1: so big and it still resonates today that I think
Speaker 1: I met. I met him early because like I said,
Speaker 1: was we we used to sit around and watch Georgetown games,
Speaker 1: the old crew and just go crazy. So once I
Speaker 1: was able to meet him after he got drafted, he
Speaker 1: just embraced me like a bro, like yo, I love
Speaker 1: He was like, I love you, red Man. This that
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So then I always kept
Speaker 1: the relationship with him. Steve Stout, I had something going
Speaker 1: on with Reebok at the time, and they when they
Speaker 1: gave him his deal, and they was they was looking
Speaker 1: at the door or at the track masters. They called
Speaker 1: me over to coming to the student and listen to
Speaker 1: this track. It was. It was dope because it was
Speaker 1: the baseline and the whole track was made up of
Speaker 1: the screeching and the sneakers and they put it together
Speaker 1: a fire. I'm like, this is fire, and they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you want to do it this fold and I was
Speaker 1: want to do it. Kind of question is that, um
Speaker 1: we knocked it out, was able to do one and
Speaker 1: two of them. So it was it was dope. It
Speaker 1: was it was I knew it was hitting. It was
Speaker 1: playing it inside parties and playing the spot and was crazy.
Speaker 1: All right, man, quick hitters. We're coming to the end.
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us know Top
Speaker 1: five in y Rappers and Why Rappers, Top five Live.
Speaker 1: I'm not included, right, you could be. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm rest in peace to the dog, rest in peace,
Speaker 1: b I g old nas. I don't know what I do,
Speaker 1: just get it. I like it. You could be remembered
Speaker 1: for one bar of yours. What would it be? From
Speaker 1: New York Line. It's a compliment. I'm not cocky, I'm
Speaker 1: confident cock complaire an telling me I'm the best. It's
Speaker 1: a compliment. Mhm. Or Who's you're starting for? You'd be
Speaker 1: the fifth if you're gonna play a pick up black
Speaker 1: top game where am I drafted from it? Anybody could
Speaker 1: be Street Legends, it could be NBA Hoopers, it could
Speaker 1: be the homies, the topic me plus yeah, maybe you
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Speaker 1: Let me get watch this four I put the gether
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Speaker 1: Nica Reen two more, let me get m J and
Speaker 1: Ship I say, I'm Perkins. That's the craziest Perkins. Oh
Speaker 1: one NBA game and Hans you you could we wish
Speaker 1: you could have been at the fight you was ordered.
Speaker 1: I wish I wish I could have been at the
Speaker 1: I probably asked them any question, adio, I was actually
Speaker 1: you about It was in the studio, Hello, Blans, just
Speaker 1: talking about basketball and braun all councils. I remember that too,
Speaker 1: right there in Yak people ain't been in that's a fact.
Speaker 1: Top five New York movies King in New York, Classic,
Speaker 1: Mike White, Beachtreat, that's a good one. I't forgot. I
Speaker 1: forgot about be Streaking, frunch Groove. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that one. I knew Jack City. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's classic. B Yeah it is. You gotta
Speaker 1: throw that on then gotta keep it all. We go
Speaker 1: back to the beginning. Man, I heard that movie in
Speaker 1: the long quality on it. It looks crazy like they
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