1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our one on this Thursday. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Ready to go football tonight as we start Week three, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: this is kind of clean up your mess? Are you 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: start going south in a hurry? And for the Miami Dolphins, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: you better clean up your mess tonight on the road. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: You're a twelve and a half point underdog. And when 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: you think about Week three of the NFL season, it 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: feels like a turning point for some of these teams 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: because if you started out oh and two, and how 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: did you start out oh and two? Then all of 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: a sudden we start to look at a pattern here 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: and the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel on the hot seat, 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody's expecting them to beat Buffalo, 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: but can you have a quality loss here? I still 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: think that the big stretch run here. They host the Jets, 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 2: They're at the Panthers, host the Chargers, at the Browns 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: at Atlanta. You're going to get a really good idea 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: over those next six weeks just how good or bad 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: Miami is. Then you'll have more chatter about Tyreek Hill 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: and of course with Mike McDaniel, but the big game 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: coming up tonight against the Buffalo Bills, and here they 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: are zero to two and staring down a heavyweight in Buffalo, 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: battling maybe dysfunction. They it seem like they broke the code. 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: Two years ago they had cracked the code. They had 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: one of the more innovative offenses. To a tongue of Iolo, 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: was playing Great Wattle Tyreek Hill. They're scoring, they're having fun. 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel quirky but winning. That's the difference. You can 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: be quirky and winning and we're fine with it. It's 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: when you're quirky and you're not winning, or all of 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: a sudden, we're like, what's wrong with that guy? I 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: like him. I think he's entertaining. I don't know if 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: he's a head coach, but I do think he's got 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: one of those bright, offensive minds. And I think sometimes 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: when you put those guys in front of the media, 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: they can do their job. But part of the job 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: of being a head coach is being a CEO, and 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: some guys can and some guys cannot do it. Now, 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Belichick got away with it because he had success before 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: social media. Then all of a sudden, it's like, ah r, 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: he's gruff. That's who he is. Greg Popovich before social media, 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, they could be really tough on the media. 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Bob Knight, you could be tough on the media, but 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: you're winning. Bill Parcells, pat Riley tough on the media, 45 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: but you're winning. It's when you don't. And I'm not 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: saying Mike McDaniel is tough on the media. You know 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: you got Brian Kelly at LSU. All right, if you're winning, 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: you can be tough on the media, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: but you gotta win. And Mike McDaniel you can be quirky, 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: but you better win. And that's been the problem. You 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: start to look at where did it go wrong here? 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: I mean, TUA has been healthy, Er feels like the 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: same team that they've had. It's just they don't feel threatening. 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: And then you have that stretch where you host the 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: Jets at the Panthers, host the Chargers at the Browns 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: at Atlanta. You can beat the Jets, you can beat 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: the Panthers. You're going to be hosting the Chargers coming 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: cross country, You'll be at the Browns and you're at Atlanta. 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: They're all winnable games. The question is can you win 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: three out of five? Can you win four out of five? 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: But if there's a blowout tonight, a standalone game, that's 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: when everybody's going to be circling. That's what happens standalone games. Now, 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: everybody has a referendum on the Miami Dolphins. Now, if 64 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Buffalo struggles, that defense has holes in it. So there 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: is room for opportunity for the Miami Dolphins. But Buffalo 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: is a twelve and a half point underdog. Stat of 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: the official trading cards to the Dan Patrick Show. 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Seaton, 88 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: could you provide a poll question? And for the first 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: hour this Thursday program, Todd is here, Seaton's here, Marv 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Pauliers truly into Brg's. 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like we have to see non 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: yips before we see yips. 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: Wait, what do you mean? 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: Like, how can you tell somebody has the yips if 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: you haven't really watched them play a ton. 96 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 2: Without the yips? Well, I think the yips it's like golf. 97 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: You can tell when somebody has the yips. I don't 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: know if you have to see them prior to the 99 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: yips when they were yip list. 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like if I went out onto 101 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: the golf course with you and the first two holes 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: I was spraying the ball all over the place, would 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: you be like, Ah, that's okay, you just got the yips. 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: No, because the yips is putting. Now, I would be 105 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: able to see that. Just because you spray the ball 106 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: all over that that wouldn't tell me anything. But if 107 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: I see how you are over a putt, and you 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: know some of the best golfers in history have gone 109 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: through the yips, would you look at the definition of 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: yip in golf. Okay, yeah, you didn't think you'd be 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: asked that today, but we're talking yips. But yeah, you'll 112 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: see golfers. I think Bernhard longer and then he went 113 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 2: to a longer putter because he was suffering from the yips. 114 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, a state of extreme nervousness that causes a 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: golfer to miss an easy putt. Now, it says Urban Dictionary. 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: This is branched out to be other sports, but the 117 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: origin is golf and putting. 118 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: Well, Chuck Nablock had the yips, Yes he did, right. 119 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: Steve Sachs, Macki Sasser, Steve Blass, wear something easy, some 120 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: routine and you can't do it like Rick Ankiel couldn't 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: throw the bowl over over the plate even get to 122 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: the catcher. 123 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: But if those are like the first couple of games 124 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: that he did that, you wouldn't just think, oh, that's 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 3: just the yips, don't worry. 126 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: About I'm surprised. And once again last Chase Daniel about 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: this that I don't know if you're short arming it 128 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: like you're nervous and you don't follow through. And therefore, 129 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: because Chuck Nona Block couldn't throw it from second to first, 130 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: and Steve Sachs was a second baseman as well, Mackie 131 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: Saser was a catcher and he couldn't throw it back 132 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: to the pitcher. 133 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: It is weird how difficult it is from to get 134 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: the ball to first from the second base position, not 135 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: second base, the bag, but you just get a grounder 136 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: at second and you have to flip it over to 137 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: first for some reason, it's a really weird, weirdly difficult 138 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: throw to make. 139 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: Well, you had who is the picture for the Red 140 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: Sox and the Cubs, and he couldn't throw it, you know, 141 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: from the pitcher's mount to first base. John Lester, Paul, 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: thanks John Lester. 143 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: He couldn't throw it, he had to stop checking runner. 144 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: I think he threw his glove one time with the 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: ball in it, like there you go, yes, yes, Ton. 146 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: And sometimes something may be so easier, so routine, that 147 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: it gets in your head, like when there's a wide 148 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: open receiver for a short pass and he just totally 149 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: overthrows the guy because it's so easy, and somehow he's 150 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 5: made it complicated mentally. 151 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Chase about that. I had not heard 152 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: that with quarterbacks having to yip now though short arm it, 153 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: and maybe that's what he's talking about, that you almost 154 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: are you've not committed to the throw that you don't 155 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: want to throw it and have it intercepted, so you 156 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: short arm it therefore ends up at somebody's feet. Here's 157 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: another thing. You normally don't have a player's only meeting 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: after a blowout loss after Week one, Like that's not 159 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: a good sign. The Dolphins they lost to Danny Dimes 160 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: thirty three to eight, and then they had a player's 161 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 2: only meeting. I don't know how many times you hold 162 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: a player's only meeting after you have a big win. 163 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: But usually that's a celebration out at a bar or club. 164 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: But this is a players only meeting after the blowout 165 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: loss in Week one. That's not a good sign. Twelve 166 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: and a half point underdogs. What could go wrong? What 167 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: other poll questions are we considering today? Seedon, We got 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: one here from Marvin. 169 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: What's the worst sign for a team of players only 170 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: meeting or a coach calling out the team's effort? 171 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben Johnson did this. Oh boy, this is bad 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: when a coach calls out, hey, we got to take 173 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: care of the ball. Hey we can't make the have 174 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 2: that many penalties. But when you say, hey, I'm questioning 175 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: our effort, well, now that's something completely different. Now I'm 176 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: questioning your motivation. Now I'm questioning how badly do you 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: want to play? Are you playing hard enough? And it 178 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: wasn't a you know, a long speech that Ben had. 179 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: In fact, it was felt like a throwaway line. Pauline. 180 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was one line he said, our practice habits 181 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: are yet to reflect a championship caliber team and then 182 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 4: just stopped. 183 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: That one just hangs in the air. It's like, oh, 184 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: that's when if I'm in that press conference, I'm like, 185 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: I'm zeroed in. What do you mean by that? Coach? 186 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: What role do you take in your team, maybe not 187 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: being ready to play or having, you know, that motivation 188 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: to play. 189 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's a little early in said 190 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: coaching career to publicly call out your team like that. 191 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: Maybe you need to build a little bit of trust 192 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: amongst yourself and the roster first before you publicly humiliate 193 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 3: your entire team. 194 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: Well, it was a rough week in Chicago. They want 195 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: results right now, and maybe he's starting to It's hard 196 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: to say that you feel the heat after two games, 197 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: but maybe Ben Johnson's starting to feel the heat. Not 198 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: that there's going to be a change there, but you know, 199 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: it feels like Caleb Williams give him this year. Let's 200 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: just see, you got a guy, Ben Johnson. Now, there's 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: no excuses. You got a guy who's offensive minded. Look 202 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: what he did to Jared Goff. Look what he did 203 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: for the Lions. He can do that for the Bears. 204 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: He wanted this job. You were gonna have to pay 205 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: a lot to get him. The Bears did and buy 206 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: all accounts. Everybody said they got the right guy, they 207 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: got the best guy available. I'm still in on this 208 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: situation because I got to. I have to give Caleb 209 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: Williams enough time. I'm old enough to know that that's 210 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: the way they used to do it. John Elway, Peyton Manning, 211 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: Steve McNair, Troy mcrun down the list, Montana, they all 212 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: got time to develop. It's really rare. It was really rare. 213 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: Right out of the gate. You go in and you're 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: gonna light everybody up. It's not that easy. And as 215 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: much as we want to say, well, they're kind of 216 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: running the same offenses in college as they are in 217 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: the NFL, they are, but there's one small issue with that. 218 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: You're only open for a and now you're not open 219 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: in college. You're open, you're open, you're open, you're open, 220 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: you're open in the pros. It's just not that way. 221 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: And those guys getting off the edge. And I know 222 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: I've said this so many times, but it is it 223 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: will stay in my memory bank. Being on the sidelines 224 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: to watch how fast a game is. It's like when 225 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: I told you about seeing Usain Bolt at the London Olympics. 226 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: It's one thing to watch him on TV, but the 227 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: camera stays on him so it doesn't feel like, okay's fast. 228 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: But when you're trying to follow him while you're in 229 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: the stadium, you're like, oh my god, he's just like 230 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: there and he's gone. He made the turn in the 231 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: two hundred meters and I said to my wife, the 232 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: race is over, and she goes, it is. I go, no, 233 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: it is. But the race still had one hundred meters 234 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: to go. I didn't leave right after that. We didn't 235 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: leave early. Yeah, hey, we're leaving after one hundred meters. 236 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 6: On be traffic. 237 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: When you watch on the sidelines, how quickly those edge 238 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 2: rushers get in there, it is amazing and how they 239 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: process this and you're trying to teach somebody how to 240 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,119 Speaker 2: play the position. And I don't know if Caleb Williams 241 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: was coached well his last year at USC. I don't 242 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: know if he allowed himself to be coached well at USC, 243 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: because it feels like he has the same habits that 244 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: he did there. Even cam Ward. I'm watching him. He 245 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: could turn out to be a great quarterback. But they 246 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: all try to make a play. 247 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: You know. 248 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, he can make a play, but he also 249 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: will step up in the pocket. Lamar Jackson's one of 250 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: the best passers in the NFL. The numbers prove that. 251 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: Now you may not like it esthetically, the way he 252 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: throws the ball. But you step up in the pocket 253 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: when you need to, when you need to make a play, 254 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: then you can make a play. These guys try to 255 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: make a play all the time, and that's where you 256 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: have to learn. Man, I don't want to throw this 257 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: ball away. I don't want to fall down take a sack. 258 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: But all the greats have done that, all the greats, 259 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: Brady Manning, even Mahomes. Yeah, pulling. 260 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: And some quarterbacks get a haul pass with their rookie 261 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: year based on the coaching staff not working out, like 262 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence back in twenty twenty one under Ervin Meyer. 263 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: Urban Meyer got the blame for Trevor Lawrence having a 264 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: terrible rookie year, and the next year he threw twenty 265 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: five touchdowns and eight picks. It's still a work in 266 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: progress with Trevor, but it got better fast. 267 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: And even Ben Johnson saying, you know, I like his optimism, 268 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: but what he says, we don't have. You know, we 269 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: want champion caliber, you know, team, we want effort. There 270 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: can't you say maybe wild card playoff caliber, team winning record, championship, 271 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: championship blank? Okay, slow down here, coach, easy there, all right? 272 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: Does arch Manning have the yips? And if so, how 273 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: did he get them? How do you get rid of them? 274 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Chase Daniel and he also has some 275 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: thoughts on Caleb Williams. Also, he's in love with Dak 276 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: Prescott after two weeks, so we'll talk to Chase. He's 277 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: always great breaking things down. 278 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 279 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 280 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 281 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 7: Hey, it's me Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast, 282 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 7: Inside the Parker, for twenty two minutes of piping hot 283 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 7: baseball talk featuring the biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. 284 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 7: Whether you believe in analytics or the I test, We've 285 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,359 Speaker 7: got all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, 286 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 7: so do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the 287 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 7: Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 288 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 7: you get your podcast. 289 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: Let me bring in Chase Daniel, the ESPN NFL College 290 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: Football analyst. He'll be on the call of Sam Houston 291 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: versus Texas that'll be on the ESPN Plus SEC network. 292 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: Right does arch Manning have the yips, And if so, 293 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: what are the yips? 294 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 8: Chase? Yeah, yeah, I don't like to ever talk about 295 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 8: a quarterback having the yips, like right, Like in baseball, 296 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 8: it was like second baseman couldn't throw to first base, 297 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 8: and it was always like something we don't talk about, right, 298 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 8: And I don't know if it's the yips. But what 299 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 8: I do know, and I've I've went back, is I'm 300 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 8: obviously calling the game and looked at every single snap 301 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 8: this year, and I even went back and looked at 302 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 8: last year's snaps when he played, and I would just say, 303 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 8: instead of the yips, I'll say mechanically, there are a 304 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 8: lot of things wrong with his throwing motion, from his 305 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 8: feet not being in the right spot, to his arm 306 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 8: angle not being in the right spot, to him grimacing 307 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 8: when he throws the football. And I think that's the 308 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 8: biggest thing. It's I don't think he's hurt, Dan, I 309 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 8: really don't. I just think his motion and his throwing 310 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 8: angle of his shoulder, I feel like everything's completely off. 311 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 8: And I say this is specifically his back foot. Your 312 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 8: backfoot is a thrower. And I learned this from Drew Brees, 313 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 8: Tom Brady, Tom House, who worked with that. He's like 314 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 8: a renowned throwing coach. He lives right down the road 315 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 8: for me, I've worked with him before. Your power comes 316 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 8: from your feet up as a thrower. So anytime your 317 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 8: feet aren't planted in the ground firmly, you don't get 318 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 8: enough torque on the ball. You don't get enough power 319 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 8: on the ball. Last year, when I watched arch Manning 320 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 8: and all his snaps, his back foot was down until 321 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 8: his arm came through, which is very mechanically correct, for 322 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 8: lack of better words. This year, almost every throw, including 323 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 8: in clean pockets, that back foot has come up, so 324 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 8: his ball dies on him a specifically going to the 325 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 8: right right. We saw this ten play, really really this 326 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 8: twenty play incompletion stretch, and it was ten in completions 327 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 8: against UTEP. UTEP has one of the worst passing defenses 328 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 8: in all of college football who Texas played last week. 329 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 8: And so my thing is, I don't know how you 330 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 8: fix it, because you can get to the mechanical stuff. 331 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 8: You can get to this and that, So I'm not 332 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 8: going to call it the yips, But mechanically he looks 333 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 8: completely different than he did last year. 334 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: But his head coach is a former quarterback. How does 335 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisia not see this and maybe try to arrest it. 336 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 8: Well, he has seen it. And I think Texas is 337 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 8: averaging over forty carries a game. They're not throwing the football, 338 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 8: and you know, you've watched Sarks offenses in the past, 339 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 8: and they like to throw the football. They're not getting 340 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 8: Ryan Wingo, their number one receiver involved. That just they 341 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 8: don't look like an offense that I've seen Texas look 342 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 8: like before. And you know what I you know, the 343 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 8: Ohio State Texas game, right, everyone was like, oh, it's 344 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 8: obviously arts and play ball, but Sarks, it's a it's 345 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 8: a manageable game plan. So I thought they did really 346 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 8: good stuff on offense. And if you look at all 347 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 8: three of their games they played, then there's stuff open. 348 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 8: Art is just missing it. He's not accurate. 349 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've seen that with you know, Caleb Williams 350 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: sometimes CJ Stroud so far this year, but let you 351 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: broke down. Caleb Williams helped me understand because it feels 352 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: like there's a whole lot more going on in Chicago 353 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: after two games than there should be. 354 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, and when it comes to Caleb, it's it's like 355 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 8: you get the really good and small spurts and then 356 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 8: some of the bad the rest of the game. Right, 357 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 8: you look at the first half on both of his 358 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 8: games that he's played this year, I thought he's played 359 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 8: pretty well mechanically and physically and just mentally. This pass 360 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 8: game versus Troy, I know they got killed, but I 361 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 8: thought he played pretty well and I thought it was 362 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 8: one of his better halves as a pro, just the 363 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 8: first half. But then it got out of hand and 364 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 8: they got the defensive issues. I think with Caleb it's 365 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 8: always been in his mind, Like physically, we know the 366 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 8: talent is there, and he gets into a rhythm. At 367 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 8: times when he's not doing well, he tries to do 368 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 8: too much, and I think that's what Ben Johnson doesn't 369 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 8: want him to do. We have an offense. We got 370 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 8: to get Swift involved. We have three really good receivers, 371 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 8: we have two really good tight ends. We paid a 372 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 8: million bucks for the interior that offensive line. They have 373 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 8: all the talent in the world. Sometimes Dan, it's just 374 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 8: between the ears for some of these guys, and if 375 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 8: they can understand how to play the game, and it's 376 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 8: new in this marriage with Ben Johnson, that's when I 377 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 8: think they'll really be good, but they got to fix 378 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 8: other issues. Like their defense right now is just it's 379 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 8: not good. 380 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: But it feels like Caleb Williams. Sometimes with players who 381 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: have so much talent, they can't do the mundane. And 382 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: there are times as a quarterback where you're like, all right, 383 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a set. I'm gonna throw this away. 384 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: We're only gonna get five yards. They want to make 385 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: a play. It's almost like you want to hit an 386 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: eight run home run when you go to the plate 387 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: when you've been in a slump, and it feels like 388 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: Caleb wants to do so much more because we expect 389 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: him to do so much more. 390 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 8: That's exactly right. And look, Drew Brees used to I 391 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 8: backed him up for five years. He used to say, Hey, 392 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 8: quarterbacks boring like quarterbacks for you. There's gonna be some 393 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 8: games where this team just played in too high safety. Look, 394 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 8: and we're just gonna have to throw hitch after hitch 395 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 8: after hitch, and then maybe we'll get an in route 396 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 8: and maybe we'll get a go ball down the sideline 397 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 8: when they're a man and I'll check to it. That's 398 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 8: sort of the weekly minutia of playing quarterback because you 399 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 8: don't know how any given defense is going to play 400 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 8: you on Sunday, and you could have an entire game plan. 401 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 8: We had it all the time in New Orleans. List 402 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 8: the game plan was like throw the ball deep. You 403 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 8: know what, Champagne would call fifteen of his run action 404 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 8: shot plays down the field where it's a post and 405 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 8: you know what, Drew would check it down to the quarterback. 406 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 8: You know what, it would travel five yards in the air, 407 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 8: but that running back in marketingram will go for twenty 408 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 8: and so the passing yards look good. I do think 409 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 8: that he's forcing stuff down the field, but playing quarterback, 410 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 8: it's got to be boring sometimes in some of these games. 411 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 8: Not every game is one the same. 412 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: He's Chase Daniel. He'll be on the Call of Texas 413 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: Sam Houston on ESPN plus SEC Network and a co 414 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast. Also the YouTube 415 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: channel Must See TV, the Chase Daniels Show. So he 416 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: breaks down these quarterbacks. You've fallen in love with Dak 417 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: Prescott so far, even though I look at his quarterback 418 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: rating and it's not a very good rating. It's twenty third, 419 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: So what are you seeing that we're not seeing. 420 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 8: Well. I just think that look when Dak is healthy 421 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 8: and the first time truly healthy since two years ago 422 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 8: where he finished second in the MVP voting, I think, 423 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 8: right now, right the rating doesn't tell the story when 424 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 8: I look at his film and I just look purely 425 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 8: at the quarterback position, forget about those around him, forget 426 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 8: about how the way he's operating, not only throwing the 427 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 8: football down the field, not only fitting in tight window 428 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 8: throws when needed, he's not forcing the football down the field. 429 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 8: He's controlling the line of scrimmage. He's getting the Cowboys 430 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 8: to in and out of the right place. Now, look, 431 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 8: they almost stole a game on the road in Philly, 432 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 8: verus a very good Philly team. We all know how 433 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 8: we feel about Philly. I thought he played excellent in 434 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 8: that game. Right, He's had some dropped interceptions, so it's 435 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 8: me didn't look better. But you look at the Giants 436 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 8: game and you look at the multiple two minute drives 437 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 8: that he's had to have like that, That's what the 438 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 8: NFL comes down to is can you make plays in 439 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 8: two minute drives in two minute jals? And he had 440 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 8: three drives over the course of the fourth quarter. And 441 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 8: overtime where he willed his team to victory. And I 442 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 8: know that Dak gets a lot of haters. I know. 443 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 8: I'm not talking about the Cowboys team in general because 444 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 8: I don't think they're that good. I think I think offensively, 445 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 8: they're much better than they were last year or even 446 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 8: the year before now, and that comes from Brian Schottenheimer. 447 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 8: He's using a lot of pre snap motions, so he's 448 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 8: letting Dak Prescott see the answers to the test before 449 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 8: the test is given. Hey, give me a man's own read, 450 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 8: give me a slot formation, give me all this. I 451 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 8: just think the offense is attacking more. They actually have 452 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 8: something in that running back and Williams as well. And 453 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 8: when Dak has had a run game in the past, 454 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 8: he's been really well. 455 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: You got the Chiefs and the Giants coming up this weekend. 456 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at the schedule. This is a tough schedule. So, okay, 457 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: you get by the Giants. Now you got the Ravens, 458 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: you got Jacksonville in Jacksonville, you got the Lions, you 459 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: got the Raiders, then you got the Commanders, and then 460 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: you got the Buffalo Bills. That's pretty tough. Selet that's 461 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: pretty tough for a team that's waiting to get its 462 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: two best receivers back. And I don't Kelsey hasn't stood out. 463 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: Mahomes is trying. It feels like he's trying to do 464 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: something to up, you know, get this team fired up. 465 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: He's actually running and taking on defensive backs and I 466 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: don't know, help me understand the chief handicap the Chiefs 467 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: here first half of the season. What do you think? 468 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, look owing to right first time since twenty fourteen 469 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 8: and I was actually on that team and we didn't 470 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 8: end up making the playoffs. The thing with the Chiefs 471 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 8: this year where I think they have struggled to get 472 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 8: a little bit better is obviously like they haven't had 473 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 8: their receivers right, they haven't had Rashi, Rice, Hollywood Brown 474 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 8: or xaf You're worthy in two years on the field 475 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 8: at the safe time, that is a completely different receiver 476 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 8: corp than they've had to do. Obviously, with Travis Kelce 477 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 8: getting older, he's not as much of a factor as 478 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 8: he can. 479 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: I thought. 480 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 8: The offensive line really is still the issue, specifically left 481 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 8: guard in Kingsley Sumant. Yeah, he's just not playing at 482 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 8: a high level, especially against Philly and when you look 483 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 8: at their offense, they wanted to be a throw it 484 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 8: down the field offense. That sort of escaped them from 485 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 8: their offensive game plans really the last two or three 486 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 8: years without Tyreek, they wanted to do that. This year, 487 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 8: they've had to make adjustments and change the way they've 488 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 8: played the game. And it's been Patrick Mahomes running the football. 489 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 8: I don't want him leading the league and rushing the 490 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 8: football for quarterbacks. That's not what he does, right, But 491 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 8: he's had to do that. And I look at their 492 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 8: schedule and I'm glad you brought that up. If they 493 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 8: can be three and three after the Ravens and Lions, 494 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 8: I think it's the Lions the last one. If they 495 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 8: can just get to three and three, and they did 496 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 8: this a couple of years ago, or they get into 497 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 8: a rhythm, they find out who they are offensively, they 498 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 8: get all their guys back, I think that the Chiefs 499 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 8: can still be the Chiefs. Like I just think it's 500 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 8: way too early to write them off. And I know 501 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 8: all of these people are oh and two. It's impossible 502 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 8: to make like a twelve percent chance to make the playoffs. 503 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 8: I just think like their defense is still really good. 504 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 8: And if they can get some wins against some quality 505 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 8: opponents and just get to five hundred through six games, 506 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 8: then I mean, look, the one seed might be out 507 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 8: the table if they if they do that right, but 508 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 8: as long as they get into the tournamentent, it's the 509 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 8: Chiefs are the Chiefs for me. 510 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: I know you've watched film of Baker Mayfield, and it's 511 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: weird how people still aren't accepting a Baker Mayfield. He 512 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: had an incredible year last year. It's like, hey, you 513 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: got kicked to the curb by the Browns, you were 514 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: with Carolina, you were with the Rams, you know, you're 515 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: damaged goods, and then all of a sudden, hey you 516 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: got to compete with Kyle Trask in Tampa Bay. I 517 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: don't is it maybe his persona that people have a 518 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: problem with or I don't know what it is, but 519 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that he knows how to 520 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: win and he's gonna play tough for you. What did 521 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: you see from him? Is there anything different this year 522 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: than last year? 523 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 8: No? I love Baker again. I would say the last 524 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 8: two years he's played really well, like like actually really 525 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 8: really good he's played. If you just look at the stats, 526 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 8: and I don't love doing it all the time. He's 527 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 8: played like a top eight quarterback in the league, like 528 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 8: in every major category. And the thing I liked about 529 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 8: this year is both of their games came down to 530 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 8: the last play of the game, and he has willed 531 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 8: his team to win. He now, he's got a strong arm, 532 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 8: he's got all that stuff. I do think the offense 533 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 8: in Tampa has really fit him well. Now he has 534 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 8: three complete studs to throw to a receiver, so that helps. Offensively, 535 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 8: they're explosive. He's also played without five starters too, so 536 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 8: just the way he's been playing. I think people like 537 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 8: to hate on Baker because of his demeanor and because 538 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 8: of the stuff he does. And you know, he can 539 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 8: be polarizing to some. I love it, like I want 540 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 8: my quarterback to have that. To him, I think he's 541 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 8: got to have swagger. I think he's got to have confidence. 542 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 8: And the thing is he's backed it up so when 543 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 8: you watch him, he's not really wild on I mean, look, 544 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 8: look look at the two minute drive. And if you 545 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 8: actually this past weekend, if you actually break down the 546 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 8: two minute drive to win the game against the Texans, 547 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 8: which I think that defense is pretty good they can 548 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 8: rush the pass it really well. He didn't throw the 549 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 8: football more than six yards down the field. He was 550 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 8: taking what the defense give you. It was just classic 551 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 8: two minute drive, like what coaches tell you and what 552 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 8: coaches because, like, hey, just take the open guy, Just 553 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 8: take the open guy. And then he takes off on 554 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 8: fourth down and scrambles and uses his legs and they 555 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 8: end up winning the game. He's the ultimate I'm not 556 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 8: gonna do too much, but I'm gonna make plays when 557 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 8: I need to. I think he's playing like a top 558 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 8: five quarterback in the league right now. 559 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: What would you have to see before you would pick 560 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: the Chargers to be the best team in the AFC. 561 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 8: Oh Man, Are they aren't? 562 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 9: They? 563 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 8: Like? Uh, they're already right Dan? 564 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Would you take them over Buffalo or the Ravens right now? 565 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: Had to hit, I would. 566 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 8: Take them over the Ravens because of defensively, how they're 567 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 8: doing and at this specific moment, how Justin Herbert is playing, 568 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 8: because I think Justin Herbert's a new person and a 569 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 8: new man right He's day Madison Beer, He's got all 570 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 8: this Hollywood. It's a completely different Justin Herbert than I'm 571 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 8: used to. And I like that he's gotten out of 572 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 8: his shell. He just does not care what people think. 573 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 8: He's got all the money, he's got that and he's 574 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 8: got the fit now. But the thing is, like at 575 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 8: who he is at his core, he is a football dude, 576 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 8: and those football dudes between him and Harball, they make 577 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 8: it work. Now now, Quentin Johnson for the Chargers, he's 578 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 8: taken a next step right. They got Keenan Allen back. 579 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 8: I can't tell you how important that is. They got Dan, 580 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 8: they got Shane Day back, and he's the quarterback coach. 581 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 8: In Shane Day, I'm telling you, is the secret sauce 582 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 8: of this because him and Justin work so well behind 583 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 8: the scenes together. And then you look at that defense, 584 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 8: I think, you know, one of the best scoring defenses 585 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 8: in all of football. I do think the Bills right 586 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 8: now are the class of the AFC. And you can 587 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 8: make it. You can make a case for the Ravens 588 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 8: right you. You absolutely could, because I think they're they're 589 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 8: loaded again. I just think this is the year that 590 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 8: you know, Justin Herbert he gets a playoff win, Like 591 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 8: I really do think that, and I think they've built 592 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 8: it the right way. And you just look at Jim 593 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 8: arball Man like just what he's been able to do 594 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 8: in the first and second years of the programs. He 595 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 8: took them to the You know, I just think they're 596 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 8: I think they're built the right way. 597 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: I just need to avoid Buffalo in the winter time 598 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, finish this. If the Dolphins get blown 599 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: out tonight, oh don't. 600 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 8: I don't know if mcdade'll get fired or not. 601 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 6: I don't know. 602 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 8: I just you know, when I watched Miami on film, 603 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 8: it's it's rough, and it's brutal, and a lot of 604 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 8: it is coaching. So I'm gonna say the head coach 605 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 8: doesn't get fired. It's too early in the season. I 606 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 8: do think that, you know, time's running out, though, and 607 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 8: and with a roster that I think is somewhat talented, 608 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 8: and with a quarterback that I'm sort of mixed on. 609 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 8: I think he's really good at timing throws. I think 610 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 8: that's all the case. And you look at the history 611 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 8: between these two that don't really get blown out. I 612 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 8: think they're going to put up a lot of points 613 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 8: on it. If I was a betting man, I'd take 614 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 8: the over. 615 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: But what is Mike McDaniel, You said, coaching? So what 616 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: is he doing or not doing. 617 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 8: I just think their team is not ready to play. 618 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: I like, yeah, yeah, I mean they are professional, they're professionals, though, Chase, 619 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean, how much is this on the coach? How 620 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: much does this saw on the captains to say? 621 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, exactly, And I think and I do 622 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 8: think that the head coach in some of these situations, 623 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 8: specifically in college or specifically in the NFL, it's like, hey, like, 624 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 8: you can only do so much in the NFL to 625 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 8: get your guys. They're grown men. They need to be 626 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 8: ready to play. You give them the game plan. There 627 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 8: are specific things maybe they're that that maybe they're not 628 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 8: prepared for, whether it's offensive scheme stuff the defense is doing, 629 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 8: or defensive scheme stuff or too many men on the field. 630 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 8: They just they played sloppy football, specifically on offense. And 631 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 8: so yeah, I would agree with you, like the coach 632 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 8: probably gets too much blame for that, But at the 633 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 8: end of the day, the product you put out on 634 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 8: the field is the coach's responsibility. 635 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: Have fun with Texas and Sam Houston, go do uh 636 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: break bread with you? Thanks for joining us? Yeahs, Dan, 637 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: that's Chase Daniel. 638 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 639 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 640 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 641 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: listen live. 642 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: Dominique Foxworth is set to join us. He of course 643 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: the host of The Dominique Foxworth Show and works for 644 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: ESPN The Dominique Foxworth Show. It's a season long foot podcast. 645 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: Also you can see him on Get Up, contributor to 646 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: ESPN and Scape Joints. 647 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 8: So on the program. 648 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: All right, let me ask the question, can you envision 649 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 2: a Dolphin win tonight? 650 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 9: I have a hard time envision in it. I think 651 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 9: I should be fair. One of the things that I 652 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 9: that I always try to remind people of is like 653 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 9: how close the talent differentially is in the NFL. 654 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 6: And we talk about like that position is terrible. 655 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 9: Eh, it's not like college where there actually are some 656 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 9: guys that don't belong out there against other guys. So 657 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 9: like the game, crazier things have happened. But the problem 658 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 9: is the Dolphins. It feels like there's no sadder building 659 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 9: in the league right now, and it's really hard to 660 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 9: get motivated when it doesn't feel like anybody in that 661 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 9: place is safe or they don't have anything to hang 662 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 9: their hat on. So I think that's the scarier part 663 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 9: for them. But they're holes in that Bills defense. They're 664 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 9: gonna be able to move it some. 665 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: Okay, But when do things change for the Dolphins. It 666 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: seems like they cracked the code two years ago. 667 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's another hard question, man, When do things change 668 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 9: for the Dolphins? They we talk about a lot of 669 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 9: these like genius offensive coordinators, but I think the test 670 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 9: is the second idea. And you see, like that's the 671 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 9: definition of these dynaties or the just defining characteristics of 672 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 9: like the modern dynasties in football. And obviously the Dolphins 673 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 9: aren't close to the dynasty, but they find one way 674 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 9: to win and then because if roster turnover or because 675 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 9: changes the rules or other teams have catched it up 676 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 9: or aging on their roster, they then find a different 677 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 9: way to win. That was like the really impressive thing 678 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 9: about the Patriots over the years, as they found multiple 679 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 9: ways to attack you, both offensively and defensively. And I 680 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 9: know Bill Belichick is the fame story of him switching 681 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 9: from the four to three to three four or seem 682 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 9: from three four to four to three, like all that 683 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 9: stuff goes on and it doesn't seem like they figured out. 684 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 6: I would give Mike. 685 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 9: McDaniel a bunch of credit for understanding his limitations, which 686 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 9: often times limitations are would lead to like the great 687 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 9: ideas understanding the limitations of the players he had on 688 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 9: his team and the ross that he had, and it 689 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 9: led to some impressive offense and then Ain't had nothing 690 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 9: else which may be a result of the limitations of 691 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 9: the players on his team, but it doesn't matter. 692 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 6: It's going to fall on his feet. 693 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: How would you feel if you were back with the Ravens. 694 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: Tom Brady comes in, wants to sit down with the secondary, 695 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: wants to pick your brain, and then the next week 696 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 2: you're going to be playing the Raiders. 697 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 9: I would I mean, I feel fine because I wouldn't 698 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 9: say anything to him, but in general I would think that. 699 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 9: And you are a journalist, so you understand the perception 700 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 9: of any impropriety is as. 701 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 6: Bad as anything actually happening. 702 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 9: Like you often need to protect the people from themselves, 703 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 9: is don't put them in the position to have to 704 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 9: have this problem. So like I understand that it's probably 705 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 9: not going to turn any games, but still, when you 706 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 9: are in that locker room. 707 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 6: You're paranoid. Everybody's paranoid. 708 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 9: I've watched coaches burn game plans, like literally burn game plans. 709 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 9: They send advanced scouts to where we're going to practice 710 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 9: and sweep our meeting rooms like we're going to away game. 711 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 9: Someone has gone to the hotel and swept the meeting 712 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 9: rooms to make sure there are no bugs in there. 713 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 9: Like this, we're crazy people. So Tom Brady getting a 714 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 9: little extra information. I'm sure he's driving a lot of 715 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 9: these teams. 716 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 2: Now, okay, women, give me it. For instance, what city 717 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: would you go to where you worried about New England? 718 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 9: Well, I mean we would worry about it in New 719 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 9: England it was And I always thought like, if you 720 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 9: guys did that worried, you must know something, because the 721 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 9: stories of the New England cheating were like later in 722 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 9: my career, but I just the people. The fear was 723 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 9: always there, so like there was something, always something going on. 724 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 9: We had that problem. I've heard stories of people leaving 725 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 9: out stuff like the counter intelligence, where you leave out 726 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 9: something that's actually the opposite of what you're doing to 727 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 9: try to catch the other team. I had in college 728 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 9: Wen we played West Virginia and we signed not signed, 729 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 9: but like, uh, we took. 730 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 6: A couple of their players. 731 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 9: And I remember leading up to the week of games, 732 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 9: coach Friesian kept telling the media that West Virginia was was, uh, 733 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 9: like cracking our codes for our plays and stuff. And 734 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 9: I just realized that the reason why he was telling 735 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 9: them that is because we were. 736 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 6: Tried to do that to them. 737 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 9: And so I always assume the most paranoid people are 738 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 9: also the people that are up to something. 739 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: Dominic Foxworth, host of The Dominic Foxworth Show, also ESPN 740 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 2: RAID former NFL cornerback Ben Johnson called out his team 741 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: and he talked about lack of effort as a former player, 742 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: like that's that's a real indictment. And here we are 743 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: two games into the season. So I don't know how 744 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: you took that, but that one, that's not one of 745 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: those We got to fix our mistakes. Now I'm questioning 746 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: your effort in Chicago, Dominic and publicly, yeah, that's the part. 747 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 9: Yes, we have normally something like that week two, if 748 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 9: we got an effort issue, we too. That's an inside 749 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 9: the house conversation. Him doing it publicly is very strategic. 750 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 9: I think there are some coaches who aren't strategic and 751 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 9: they say things to the media willy nilly, But it 752 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 9: seems to me that Ben Johnson is doing this for 753 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 9: a reason, and it's a long season, so you have 754 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 9: to find different ways to motivate your team and get 755 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 9: their attention. It's a little concerning if week two it's 756 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 9: about effort, but it was an ugly performance in that game, 757 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 9: so I understand him trying to light a fire. 758 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: And it feels like everybody wants to jump off the 759 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: Chicago bandwagon after two games with a new coach and 760 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, I don't think has been the issue. I mean, 761 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: the defense against Detroit was terrible, but what do you 762 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: see as a former player? 763 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 9: I asked this question of myself and it helped me 764 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 9: kind of reframe the way I was thinking about Caleb 765 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 9: Williams is if this was his rookie year, how would 766 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 9: I think about his first two games? Because things were 767 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 9: such a mess last year. I want to throw that 768 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 9: year out and I know we can't. It's coloring the 769 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 9: way that I'm watching him. And if like that Tyler, 770 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 9: if I hadn't read that, how would I feel about 771 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 9: the way that he is playing right now? And I 772 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 9: would feel a lot better if these were his first 773 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 9: two games in the league. He's had a couple of 774 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 9: accuracy issues and he wasn't perfect, but he showed the 775 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 9: magic promise that got him drafted so high, and I 776 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 9: would convince myself like, yeah, he'll clean some of this 777 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 9: other stuff up. It was like nerves and new offense 778 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 9: and whatever. But the problem is we have last year 779 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 9: to draw in, and we have a lot of stories 780 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 9: coming out of Chicago that aren't very favorable to Caleb Williams, 781 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 9: and that stuff is it's in the back of my head. 782 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 6: Even when he throws. 783 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 9: Those majestic passes and rolls out and throws a crazy 784 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 9: dark downfield, I'm still in the back of my head. 785 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 6: But last year was a mess. 786 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 9: And it seems like your teammate, a lot of your 787 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 9: teammates don't really love you the way that I would 788 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 9: want my franchise quarterback to be loved. 789 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 2: I hate when I see these quarterbacks in the NFL 790 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: play like they were in college. They're going to extend 791 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: a play. They rarely step up in the pocket. I mean, 792 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: and you have to yeah, and I'm sure that you're like, 793 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: oh my god, I really have to trust my lineman here, 794 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 2: but I got to step up in the pocket, and 795 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: these young guys don't step up in the pocket. You're 796 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: a former defensive back, you know when you're is the 797 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: goal to get these guys to scramble or try to 798 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 2: keep them in the pocket. 799 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 9: I think it's a it's a game plan situation because 800 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 9: some quarterbacks throw really well outside of pocket, and you'd 801 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 9: be surprised. Some of the most athletic quarterbacks aren't really 802 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 9: accurate on the run. And then there's some that go 803 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 9: to a certain side and better that way, and you're 804 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 9: trying to force them that way. So I think it's 805 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 9: a game plan by game plan situation. But generally, like 806 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 9: I think we all have recognized that the quarterback position 807 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 9: has gotten a lot more athletic than it was historically, 808 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 9: and I think that that's probably a result of us 809 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 9: changing the rules to protect the quarterback. The more we 810 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 9: protected the quarterback, the less important it was to be 811 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 9: to get rid of the ball, to be in the 812 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 9: pocket and make quick decisions, and. 813 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 6: Also like be big, like you were gonna get lit up. 814 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 9: I know when I was growing up in the nineties 815 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 9: watching football, quarterbacks were getting like their chest doped through 816 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 9: on a regular basis and blindside hit and the late 817 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 9: hit rules were different, so it was much more important. 818 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 9: You would never consider Kyler Murray or Bryce Young anybody 819 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 9: like that as a quarterback. And those things I think 820 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 9: have led to a change in a way in the 821 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 9: style that quarterbacks play. And then of course Mahomes blew 822 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 9: that all up because once he kind of took the 823 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers thing to the next level of creating out 824 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 9: of structure, and now. 825 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 6: That's all we're looking for. 826 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 9: And you could tie it back to the question you 827 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 9: asked about Caleb, like that's how he got the number 828 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 9: one pick was all those freaky plays that he was 829 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 9: making in college and we all were like, he can 830 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 9: overcome the coaching. Yeah, I'm not saying it's right. 831 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 6: I'm just saying that's how I think we got there. 832 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: But it's a hard it's a hard thing to break, 833 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: a hard habit to break when pressure happened, Like you know, 834 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: Cheebo did this when he got to the NFL. Like 835 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: you're in Florida, you can do that in the NFL. 836 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 2: You can't. Somebody gonna find you, they're gonna track you down. 837 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 6: I think it's a hard habit. To break. 838 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 9: But I don't think they want to break the habit. 839 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think their coaches want them to 840 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 9: break the habit. I think what they want them to 841 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 9: do is something that Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and 842 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes, of course, the best quarterbacks have been able 843 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 9: to do is understand when it's time to do that 844 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 9: and when it's not. So the type of players that 845 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 9: they love those The coaches want that type of player 846 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 9: because no matter how poorly you've coached this game, how 847 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 9: figured out your offense, is Joe Burrow, A healthy Joe 848 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 9: Burrow can buy enough time to make you right and 849 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 9: then you look like a better coach. The problem is 850 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 9: if you have more of those negative plays than positive plays. 851 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 9: And it's something that should be an addition, like a 852 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 9: bonus to the way that you run. And I think 853 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 9: it's become core to so many players. And I think 854 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 9: Cameron Ward in Tennessee is another example of that, where 855 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 9: a lot of his success in college was a result 856 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 9: of him creating and he's gonna learn in the NFL 857 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 9: that can be all the time. 858 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 2: What happens if the Giants beat the Chiefs, Oh, the 859 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: Giants beat the Chiefs. 860 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 9: I think some people are finally going to not be 861 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 9: scared to question the end of the Chiefs dynasty. 862 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 6: And I don't think it does anything. 863 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 9: I guess the vibes in New York would be a 864 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 9: lot better, but I don't think it changes any of 865 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 9: their plans going forward. It's really hard for me to 866 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 9: imagine this happening. So if it does take place, the 867 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 9: Tyreek hilltrade, I think that we all are speculating about 868 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 9: but doesn't really have much smoke. Like that heats up 869 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 9: a little bit more and they are gonna be some 870 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 9: serious I think changes. The thing about the Chiefs that 871 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 9: you see from Patrick Mahomes right now is not only 872 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 9: that he's doing postseason Patrick running. He's trying to run 873 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 9: people over. Like the first two games he had three attempts. 874 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 9: Where's trying to run people over. He just seems like 875 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 9: either he wants to wants to like jokingly, he wants 876 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 9: to take himself out of his foolishness, but seriously, he 877 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 9: seems so frustrated that he's trying to express his team, like. 878 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 6: Come on, help me. 879 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, you too, man, Thank you? 880 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,479 Speaker 2: Do you ever want to tackle somebody? Hell? 881 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 9: No, no, no, no. 882 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: Do you like Dan Orlovsky? Yeah, I'd like to smack somebody. 883 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, smack somebody. 884 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 9: Tackling people hurts you too, And I would I mean, 885 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 9: I wouldn't tackle Dan. 886 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 6: He's too thin. 887 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 9: He's also the type to call the police like he's 888 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 9: gonna call him up, You're gonna press. 889 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 6: Charges like I wouldn't take it there with Dan. He's 890 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 6: not gonna swing back. 891 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 9: He's just gonna call him, call up them boys, and 892 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 9: then I got a whole nother problem. 893 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 6: In my hand. 894 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 2: Schefty, you don't want to pop him. 895 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 9: No, Schefty, you know what, the information guy. They're everybody's 896 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 9: best friend. Chefty's never said or done anything to offend anybody. 897 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 9: He's gotta be in everyone's good graces all the time 898 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 9: because you might be the one to have to news 899 00:44:59,560 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 9: for him. 900 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: Greenie, whoa, Okay, Yeah. 901 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 6: I want to hit him every day. And that's what 902 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 6: makes him a good host. 903 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 8: You know. 904 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: The next time he brings up the Jets, just smack him, 905 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: just like upside of the head. Just smack him. 906 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 6: All right, I'll come work for you after that. He's 907 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 6: a maiden man man. 908 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, That's that's true. Thanks again. Dominic no problematic. Uh, 909 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 2: it's one of my favorites. Dominic Foxworth