WEBVTT - Payback Era w/ Nia Moore

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey friends, what's up. It's me Devin Simone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am Davon Rogers and this is MTV's official

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<v Speaker 2>challenge podcast, Baby What an episode?

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<v Speaker 3>M What an episode?

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<v Speaker 4>Devin?

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<v Speaker 3>What was your highlights? Highlights? Highlights?

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<v Speaker 1>The daily looked fun? Can I just say it looked okay,

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<v Speaker 1>okay fun. It looked easy until some people got up

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<v Speaker 1>there and then it didn't look so. And then now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I fit in, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know. You want to say, oh, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be able to crush that, but then you're like, but

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<v Speaker 1>but real talk would I though?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I though the people that.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't, I don't know what about you day.

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<v Speaker 2>I one hundred percent think I would have gotten decued,

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<v Speaker 2>like one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate heights, so one hundred percent I would have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten into my head and I'd have been like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out of here, y'all, y'all take care of somebody

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<v Speaker 3>went like.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they were leaning back is why they

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<v Speaker 1>were falling off the rock, Like I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to hug the thing. But again, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And with my implants for all I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could try and hug it all day long and

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<v Speaker 1>it not works, So I don't you know, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was very compelling to watch. We also had

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<v Speaker 1>the closest time ever in Challenge history between the women

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<v Speaker 1>between Tory and Jenny. It was what six hundredths of

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<v Speaker 1>a second or something? Crazy is the time difference? That's wild,

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<v Speaker 1>That is wild. Jenny takes it home over Tori, so

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<v Speaker 1>we have Genny and Kylin as the winners, the losers

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<v Speaker 1>being THEO and Naya. THEO cracked me up. THEO was

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<v Speaker 1>just cracking me up to way over it. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just so hilarious, like how do you even slow mo

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<v Speaker 1>to the finish? Like when he even ended, he barely

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<v Speaker 1>hit the foam things even on that, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you even mess up the end?

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<v Speaker 3>Just so like he knew it was a rap, so

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<v Speaker 3>he like, if I'm gonna go out, let me just go.

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<v Speaker 1>Out doing something. I guess. So he was just so

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<v Speaker 1>funny to me. And then we have Kylon and Ginny

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<v Speaker 1>in the chamber. They ultimately decide to throw Michelle in,

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately Michelle takes out the win and then the

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<v Speaker 1>new target selections are bananas. Neamayah and surprisingly Jordan Day.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your take on all of this?

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<v Speaker 2>I was very surprised by the Jordan selection. Bananas was

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<v Speaker 2>a no brainer because Neamayah was like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Neiamyah was kind of like I felt like a throw yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I definitely definitely was caught off guard by

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<v Speaker 2>the Jordan situation.

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<v Speaker 3>What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was too, But then I started to look at

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<v Speaker 1>it as like as the house gets smaller, the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>get a little smaller, it does become kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>thing where it's like, look, if they were in power

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<v Speaker 1>and they wouldn't save me, then I've got consider getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of them, you know what I mean? So I

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<v Speaker 1>can I can see how that like, even if it

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<v Speaker 1>means like I'm not directly against you, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm not in your time to be saved,

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<v Speaker 1>so then I'm gonna have to like go after you.

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<v Speaker 1>That sort of makes sense on my end.

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<v Speaker 3>I got that.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's get it to the goodies, because we know

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<v Speaker 2>we want to know about the gold Star and the timeout,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not gonna go first because I get in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble every time I go, So I'm gonna let you

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<v Speaker 2>go first.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't get in trouble last week. I was proud

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<v Speaker 1>of you. You did not get in trouble on my

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<v Speaker 1>time Out of the week. There are a couple contenders,

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<v Speaker 1>one being THEO because THEO what were you doing? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't what, I don't what exactly, like he didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>use okay anyway. And another Timeout nominee has to be Bananas.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that he was being petty, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of being childish with it, like I don't what's

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy game plan there? I don't really know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the last time out nomination of the week, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say it has to probably go towards Jordan only because

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<v Speaker 1>when watching that exchange between Jordan and Nya, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>understood Nya's point and kind of shocked. I understood Jordan's

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<v Speaker 1>perspective and just how he plays the game, but the

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<v Speaker 1>minute they sat down expected there to be honesty, just

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like Jordan's one of those people that

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<v Speaker 1>I take what he says to the bank, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that Jordan generally is like a yes no

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy, but he wasn't a yes no kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy in this conversation with Naya, which like didn't

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<v Speaker 1>love right, like didn't feel so straightforward. But ultimately my

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<v Speaker 1>winner for the time Out is definitely going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to THEO because my dog, what what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny, but what are you doing? And then

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<v Speaker 1>my gold Star nominations, So gold Star nomination's Ginny she

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<v Speaker 1>Ace that just absolutely asd it. I also like the

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<v Speaker 1>way she stuck up for herself in deliberation, uh quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>where she's like, look, nobody cared about me, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say what I have to say, like mad respect.

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<v Speaker 1>My other nomination for gold Star goes to Aviv because

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<v Speaker 1>she also ated it, like and you know, being that

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<v Speaker 1>she is vertically challenged in certain ways, I imagine certain

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<v Speaker 1>parts were even harder her and she really just crusted

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<v Speaker 1>to her vertically hung and the myther nomination goes to Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna have to say the gold Star actually

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<v Speaker 1>goes Michelle because her comeback, remember last week, right she

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<v Speaker 1>got She's ready to go home. She's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know why I'm here. She's just doubting herself and

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<v Speaker 1>all the way till now and the end of this elimination,

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<v Speaker 1>I also thought It was hilarious when she realized that

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<v Speaker 1>she needed to like pick up the speed and elimination

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes iw like, yes, girl, all those vibes,

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<v Speaker 1>all those vibes, we have to run ew all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michelle gets my gold star for the week What

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<v Speaker 1>about you day?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna start with my gold stars nominees.

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<v Speaker 2>Oky nominis of Eve, same reason you said, like Powerhouse,

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<v Speaker 2>the way she blew through that thing, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>that challenge and I'm so proud of her because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought of Eve was gonna be going a while ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's flying under the radar, but she's still performing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think that I've seen one yet where

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<v Speaker 2>it was like Eve, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>She's performing? You know, she might not come in first,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's performing. And so I'm really.

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<v Speaker 3>Proud of Aviv.

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<v Speaker 2>Another star and it's for the same reason that you

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<v Speaker 2>gave this person a time out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm speaking from the perspective of a viewer. Okay, as

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<v Speaker 3>a viewer, Johnny is.

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<v Speaker 2>Giving me everything I need as a viewer, He's giving

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<v Speaker 2>me every Now if I was in the house as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the challengers, I'd be all the way upset,

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<v Speaker 2>like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Sit down somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>But as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Viewer, he's giving me everything that I need, Like he

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<v Speaker 2>lived in this one episode. It was Johnny Kylan, Johnny Michelle,

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Olivia, Johnny, it was the world, Like it was

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<v Speaker 2>so good to watch as a viewer. So as a viewer,

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<v Speaker 2>he did that. Another person I'm gonna give a gold

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<v Speaker 2>star to. And it's only because I forgot this person

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<v Speaker 2>was even on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Given gold stars just for existing.

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<v Speaker 4>Forgot that they were on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's here's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Because in the beginning, they were a problem. In the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>they were a target. In the beginning, they were like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to say, Cory right, Corey, Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 5>has done so well at changing the entire getting all

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<v Speaker 5>the targets off of him and just playing the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful that that means he's gonna like kill it

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. I'm hopeful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but of the three, I think ultimately I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give my goal start to Johnny. I know he's given

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<v Speaker 2>me everything I need as a viewer now for my

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<v Speaker 2>time out. The same reason you gave this person a

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<v Speaker 2>gold star is the reason I'm going to give them

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<v Speaker 2>a timeout, Jenny. And it is because in that deliberation,

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<v Speaker 2>and I might be wrong, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Viewed that as baby, that ain't about you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>When Michelle said that to you, I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about her because she won.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but you don't have a You're not doing anything

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<v Speaker 2>that's fair, that's fair. This is all up to Kylin.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just want to take the Florida. Let us

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<v Speaker 2>know that you're in your feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's fine, but this is not about you right now,

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<v Speaker 3>like it just.

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<v Speaker 2>It caught me so off guard, but I'm gonna even. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got the time out for her, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to sign out. I got to time out, but THEO

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<v Speaker 2>and Naya together as a unit, because I expected my

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<v Speaker 2>people to do much better in that. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>say my people, I mean the Long Leg Crew. I

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<v Speaker 2>expected them legs to come to youth.

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<v Speaker 3>I expected that and they let me down.

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<v Speaker 2>So ultimately, I'm gonna give my time out to the

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<v Speaker 2>Long Leg Crew because what was going Oh I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was still not even using They had a sack to

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<v Speaker 1>put the coins in, and he didn't even use Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what are you doing sir? What is it. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it that it's so high up there the air is

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<v Speaker 1>thin and then he wasn't thinking it through. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I was doing, but it was a mess.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>It was but hilarious and entertaining, which is why we

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<v Speaker 1>love the show oh so much and why we love

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast oh so much is because we get to

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<v Speaker 1>ask them about their hilariousness, which is exactly what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do on today's episode with the lovely Niamore.

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<v Speaker 1>So make sure you guys don't go anywhere, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about love life. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some beefses that are happening on the socials and

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<v Speaker 1>the media's and uh out in the real world. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about lessons learned strategy, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to quiz her on pim dots. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. So make sure you grab a snack,

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<v Speaker 1>do some stretching, but don't go anywhere because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to miss Niamore.

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<v Speaker 2>Right after this, friends, family, and cousins, I am super

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<v Speaker 2>excited because we are back with another episode and on

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<v Speaker 2>this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Right here, this one, right here, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have our sister Okay, not so many people can have

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<v Speaker 2>that title, but this is our sister who please clap

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<v Speaker 2>it up for our girl, Miss Naya.

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<v Speaker 4>More, such a pleasure to be by.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, let me say, let me set

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<v Speaker 4>the record straight and let y'all know that I am

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<v Speaker 4>the original Lady of Leisures. Like I came up with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I introduced the other girlies into it. I recruited them.

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<v Speaker 4>Just let everybody know. Yeah, I am the queen Lady

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<v Speaker 4>of Leisure.

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<v Speaker 3>How did that come about? Because y'all, y'all are really cute.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it the loyl girls, I love it. So

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<v Speaker 3>how did that come about?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's honestly a title I gave myself like

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<v Speaker 4>a while ago because I've always been type of girl

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<v Speaker 4>who's like never been one to like be gun ho

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<v Speaker 4>about work. I'm like, I love being in my soft

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<v Speaker 4>girl era. I love being taken care of. I love

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<v Speaker 4>living a so off life. And so although I have

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<v Speaker 4>found a job that I've been passionate about as a

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<v Speaker 4>private jet flight attendant for like the last seven eight years, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so really much else besides housewife that I would check off?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, can we just talk about that for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't follow NYE on social media, you need to.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do, then you already know between the lavish meals,

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<v Speaker 1>the around the world, the twerking, in between plating the food,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the skin skinning. It's giving all the things,

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<v Speaker 1>all the things. SIS like, you look like you're living

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<v Speaker 1>your best life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm trying to, and there's more to come. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like really leaning into this content thing. I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>people like it great, So I've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>exciting stuff that I'm gonna roll out soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that exciting stuff include a roster? Because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, knowing you a little bit, seeing glimpses into

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<v Speaker 1>your life. You know you're educated. We'll talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>maskuls in a minute. Though you're educated, you're beautiful, you're funny,

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<v Speaker 1>well traveled, you can cook, and you're working in the

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<v Speaker 1>private jet industry. There's gotta be a roster of like

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<v Speaker 1>billionaire men. And I understand what I'm asking. I get

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<v Speaker 1>some people are gonna be like, but I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta like, girl, they got to be knocking on your doors,

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<v Speaker 1>they gotta be Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, there's definitely been a rotation of men that have

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<v Speaker 4>you know, possible or potential suitors that have come and gone.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had boyfriends, you know, over the years, a handful

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<v Speaker 4>of them. Not just billionaires and like you know, really

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<v Speaker 4>rich people, because that's typically who we fly, but just

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<v Speaker 4>even like you know, I would say above slightly above

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<v Speaker 4>average earners.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on now, I'm on now.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I have a great time with my life

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<v Speaker 4>because of the fact that I'm traveling all over the world,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I am not limited to dating in the death

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<v Speaker 4>pool that is LA. It's like I can kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, check in on the dating apps everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>I go.

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<v Speaker 1>How far broken hearts? Okay, yeah, well you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what my mantra is. I say, I leave people

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<v Speaker 4>in places better than I've found them because my intentions

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<v Speaker 4>are pure. So like I go into it very transparent,

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<v Speaker 4>very honest, saying, hey, like, yes, would I love to

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<v Speaker 4>find my person? Would I love to like go to

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<v Speaker 4>life with someone and go with someone? Absolutely, And that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm in the pursuit of. But if I don't

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<v Speaker 4>find that, I will still enjoy my life and have

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<v Speaker 4>a good time with whoever I'm with, whether it's by

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<v Speaker 4>myself or with someone else that i've like, cannot be

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<v Speaker 4>turn into like my boyfriend for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Please make this a series, make it a book, like

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, because I am can I come to the

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<v Speaker 1>like pre screen, I'm in, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already in before we get to the book and

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<v Speaker 3>the series.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because we want to get her a series before

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<v Speaker 2>I get into all of the things.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we know that this man is my baby. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to defend him against the world. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna stay ten toes down.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I have to know how did Josh get

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<v Speaker 3>in your rolodex? Like what did that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let me take me and Josh. It was so

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<v Speaker 4>super cute, so long, pray short. You know, everybody was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just like trying to play too cool for school.

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<v Speaker 4>Josh sprang up on me like I was Rihanna, and

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<v Speaker 4>he basically gained my flowers. And He's like, nayah, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been wanting to meet you for since forever, like I

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<v Speaker 4>just adore you da da da da da, and like

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<v Speaker 4>I we I want to know if you're feeling me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to have to guess or figure it

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<v Speaker 4>out and so like, to me, that was very attractive

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<v Speaker 4>was the fact that he was like, I don't care,

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm a fan of this girl and I want

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<v Speaker 4>her to know it immediately. And then he and I

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<v Speaker 4>just naturally, like not even in a sexual or like

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<v Speaker 4>romantic way, we just got each other and like we

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<v Speaker 4>could finish each other's sentences. We just laughed. I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like his energy felt safe next to mine, mine felt

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<v Speaker 4>safe next to his, and we just bonded it in

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<v Speaker 4>that way. But of course I'm a horny LESSI auntie,

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<v Speaker 4>so I want to see you. What's the givens?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, let me just let me see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let me try it out.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit. But so me and me and Josh

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<v Speaker 4>initially were like making out, just having fun, like just

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<v Speaker 4>very light, like there wasn't anything more than that. And

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<v Speaker 4>then at one point, oh, my vibrator died, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I was, you know what, really kind of scratched the ish,

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<v Speaker 4>and he hadn't really busted a move like that yet,

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<v Speaker 4>so I was kind of get a little frustrated. And

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<v Speaker 4>then I said, well, you got a five minutes to decide, buddy,

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<v Speaker 4>because I got another guy who's sitting on the corner

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<v Speaker 4>of his bed, that waiting waiting for me at the door.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't tell him that, though, did you you just

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<v Speaker 1>not that or did you tell him that?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't tell him that, but I was definitely give

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<v Speaker 4>the energy like get right, a get left, because.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my baby.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, I will say this, the way things happened

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<v Speaker 4>would have naturally happened anyway. I think our friendship is

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<v Speaker 4>so deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry, I mean I said, I mean Josh

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<v Speaker 1>trying over you breaking his heart? Is that what you mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I know. I felt so bad about that because here's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing. One thing I would never do, especially for

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<v Speaker 4>like television value or whatever, is intentionally hurt somebody. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't need to do that. Yeah, And so I knew

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<v Speaker 4>he cared about me. But also I felt like he

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<v Speaker 4>took a step back. And one thing I'm a master

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<v Speaker 4>of is reading the room, and so I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to beg a man to wit like it was clear

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<v Speaker 4>to me that he wasn't interested in me in that way,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had options, so I felt like it was

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<v Speaker 4>my natural right to be able to explore that. However,

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<v Speaker 4>things happened so fast, guys that in the same like

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<v Speaker 4>day that I felt like he was pulling back. Hyland

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<v Speaker 4>was also up for elimination, So I'm like, well, I

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<v Speaker 4>got a test drive that before he leaves. We were

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<v Speaker 4>trying to sit him home.

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<v Speaker 3>Before he leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>Test driving room room. Okay, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. I love that. So where where do

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<v Speaker 3>you and Josh stand? Right now?

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<v Speaker 4>We are We are like brother and sister, We are buddies.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Josh. I mean, y'all know, I'm like his

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<v Speaker 4>fearless defender online, Like you cannot say anything bad about

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<v Speaker 4>that man in front of me. I love him to death.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know he gets a lot of flak from

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the fans and online and whatnot, just about

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<v Speaker 4>him wearing his heart on his sleeve and being an

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<v Speaker 4>emotional player. But like, to me, that's is the sexiest, dopest,

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<v Speaker 4>most masculine part about him is that he's not afraid

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<v Speaker 4>to wear his emotions on his sleeve. He's not afraid

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<v Speaker 4>to cry, he's not afraid to say, you know, how

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<v Speaker 4>he feels about certain things, whereas other times, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>most men are just fought to masth that. So like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm like forever gonna be in his corner and

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<v Speaker 4>he knows that. I mean, I wait, I stayed everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, but are you flexible enough to defend his strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>because like.

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to leave my friend alone. Okay, though

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<v Speaker 3>they lie, strategy was not given.

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<v Speaker 4>He's embarrassing me every episode, but.

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<v Speaker 3>But we gonna hold it.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes me harder and harder for you and David

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<v Speaker 1>fandom And look, I love Josh, don't even give you said,

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<v Speaker 1>but Josh just be all over the place.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, yeah, even like the last episode where he lit

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<v Speaker 4>bananas with without much effort, just completely finess him mentally

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<v Speaker 4>with that old dusty like you owe me card, and

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<v Speaker 4>like the fact he just fell out in tears, just

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<v Speaker 4>like you know what You're right, buddy, I do. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, literally, it's it's all. It's so safe to say.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and Josh are like friends. Now, I was

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<v Speaker 1>safe to say you and Kyland are no longer together

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<v Speaker 1>and you got a roster Roland and Dolan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, yeah, I mean I am. But here's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing. It's like, I it's not necessarily a roster

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<v Speaker 4>is just more so I am open to the possibility

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<v Speaker 4>of like finding love and I'm having fun with it,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say roster as a Pejordan by the way, either,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think you should exactly the way things happened

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<v Speaker 1>with Josh and Colin at the time, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a ring on your finger, you're not in

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<v Speaker 1>an exclusive relationship. So ye, having multiples is great until

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<v Speaker 1>you find that one where you only want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>time with him and nobody else.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, well unless you're in the Challenge house though,

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<v Speaker 4>d because one thing I'm not doing again, well, let

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<v Speaker 4>me not even say that live. Let me say one

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<v Speaker 4>thing I'm gonna try not to do it. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>is be booed up as hard as I was this season,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you would have thought I was on Love Islands.

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing no challenge work an hourrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were like locked in fast. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>like just real.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know it's like you know what that

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<v Speaker 4>environment is like, so it's automatically even though we're living

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<v Speaker 4>in a mansion and you know you're there to do

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<v Speaker 4>cool shit. It's also no phone, no escape, so if

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<v Speaker 4>you do find a connection, it is on steroids.

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<v Speaker 1>It's camp syndrome. We've talked about your you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>need to go back to battle the season. It's camp syndrome.

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<v Speaker 4>But I but the silly part is it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>old enough to know that, Like at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, I was there for a bag of money.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, if you're gonna be here, compete, Like, don't

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<v Speaker 4>take up space. Like it's cute, Like I get it,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know, you were like having fun and whatever

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<v Speaker 4>and like having like a little hookup and a little

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<v Speaker 4>love affair or whatever, but this is also an honor

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<v Speaker 4>to play this game, and it's like, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be here, like that should always remain the priority. And

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<v Speaker 4>like I kind of was just there for the vibes

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<v Speaker 4>even to begin with, and then I was like halfway through,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, the next time you do this, girl, like

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<v Speaker 4>you need Like I know what potential I have as

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<v Speaker 4>an athlete, and if I even turned on like sixty

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<v Speaker 4>percent of that, these bitches cannot touch me. And the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that I won't or have it in the past

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<v Speaker 4>and just been like lazy and not give it a shit,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, well, then don't come up here and take space,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if you're going to come back and play this game,

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<v Speaker 4>like you need to train in the gym, like honor

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<v Speaker 4>the game in the way that like you would want

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<v Speaker 4>to be. You know, if you say that you're you're

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<v Speaker 4>proud and your honor to be a part of it,

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<v Speaker 4>then like honor in that way in terms of your preparation.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah, if I ever were to come back,

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely like, I mean, I'm already in the gym.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a trainer for five days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, come on now, love this? Okay, we look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to the night Trump. I have to ask really quick

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<v Speaker 1>before we get more into this episode too, because there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of couples in this house, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting pairings, and some that actually have shown to

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<v Speaker 1>have little drama up as far as we are in

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<v Speaker 1>the season, whereas oftentimes in the beginning there's already kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like issues. So just want to get your take

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the lovers in the house, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about Michelle and Devin being together? And

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<v Speaker 1>then what do you think about Olivia and Theo. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're good matches or what's kind of your

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>insight from being there physically with them?

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<v Speaker 4>So I was there for the beginning of both obviously

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:04.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, we were all kind of like a little

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.880
<v Speaker 4>girl group, So we talked about everything that was going

0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 4>on in relationships from the very beginning, and I mean,

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 4>there's just no scenario where I would ever think that

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 4>Michelle and Dev's relationship was for clout or for TV,

0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 4>nor Olivia and Theo's. Like those four people in their perspective,

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 4>relationships love each other to death and like it is

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 4>a genuine love. So like where other people were rooting

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 4>on their downfall like bananas, I knew that there was

0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:34.880
<v Speaker 4>no scenario where they were going to break up because

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.240
<v Speaker 4>I saw how intense that bond was up close and personal.

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.399
<v Speaker 4>Because I also wanted them to win, Like I was

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 4>rooting for Olivia and THEO when they were kind of

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:44.439
<v Speaker 4>going through it trying to figure things out, you know,

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.920
<v Speaker 4>after the show, and like I was rooting for Michelle

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.880
<v Speaker 4>and devon just genuinely. So like I'm not surprised because

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 4>to me, it's like their love if you weren't a hater,

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.440
<v Speaker 4>a soon cold hater like him, who's never been able

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 4>to like find something like that in this space. And

0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 4>I know he's been here for so long that he

0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 4>just with like to but it's just he's just not

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:06.159
<v Speaker 4>that guy. I was happy for them, Yeah, I was

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 4>genuinely happy for them.

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of bananas of it all and the shots

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that you just fired at him. You know, you start

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>this episode as a target. Were you shocked to be

0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>selected last episode? Were you shocked that he went after you?

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 4>It was because that morning he told me, Hey, says

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.200
<v Speaker 4>like you're good, and I was like, really, really, I

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.400
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't have expected that for him. I didn't, you know,

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, why, how am I good? And then

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, he made it clear that he was beefing

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 4>with Tory, and I was also the impression that he

0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.639
<v Speaker 4>really didn't necessarily have a care for Ma car Maria.

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, wow, that works out perfectly for me.

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 4>So I didn't do any politics and I didn't do

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 4>any smoothing. I just kind of kicked back and like,

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, waited for the elimination. And so when he

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 4>said my name, obviously I understood the situation where he

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.400
<v Speaker 4>initially said toy and then TJ said you can't pick her,

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.120
<v Speaker 4>and then he immediately said sorry, Nya, then it's got

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 4>to be you. And so now watching this episode where

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 4>Kylon and other people were kind of like, well, why

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 4>wasn't it Kara if you said you didn't really give

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 4>a shit about Cakara, Like, why couldn't you just honor

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 4>what you told Nya early that morning. I mean, I

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 4>really didn't like hang on to it too long. I'm

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 4>not gonna lie to you because it's bananas and he

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:25.399
<v Speaker 4>and I have no relationship, and so I'm not going

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 4>to be so but hurt about him throwing me in

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 4>there when he had limited options to begin with anyway.

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 4>But I also was kind of side in the situations.

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, well, I didn't realize I forgot that he

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 4>did throw in car Marie as a target before. But

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, have they settled her beef? I don't know.

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 4>I stayed out of it. I mean I was in

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 4>the bed of Kylon every day, so I wasn't aware

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 4>of like where car Maria stood with her era at

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 4>that point. But yeah, I mean it was like there

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:51.640
<v Speaker 4>was nothing he could really do. As you can see

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 4>in the episode, I wasn't like tripping off of it

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 4>too hard. I kind of just mad it made fun

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 4>of it. But yeah, like I don't know, I think

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 4>that that was just what he had to do. In

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the moment.

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now you are a target, right. We hate

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>to see it, but here we are. We're at this challenge.

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Please explain to us your thought process going through this.

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what to call it, but this,

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 2>this this mays of an obstacle course of a challenge.

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like they ham plucked the video game that I

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 4>would never be good at anyway and put it in

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 4>real life. And I'm like, what is this Sonic the

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 4>Hedgehog as a park? Like, what is this? Because all

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 4>I saw was climbing. I'm like, everything, every part of

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.439
<v Speaker 4>it was climbing, and I'm like, outside of mouth, like

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 4>I know that that is literally my main weakness is

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 4>upper body strength and being able to like kind of

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 4>hold my own weight and pull up my own body weight,

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 4>and that's something that I worked on last minute before

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 4>I arrived to the challenge. So I'm like, yikes, Like,

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I already knew that there was an unlikely

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 4>scenario where I would finish the whole thing, but I

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.880
<v Speaker 4>will say I do have a healthy level of delusion.

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 4>And after Banana, I said, I can be able to

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 4>get to the top. And when I get to the top,

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 4>I figured to rust out. And it's hilarious because I

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 4>was literally talking to the other l L It's like, okay, y'all.

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 4>So once we get to the top of the ladder,

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 4>as if I was even.

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Gonna go, I love it because they did make it

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>look easy. To be fair, Jenny and Bananas made make

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it look super easy, so easy, incredibly easy, Like I

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>don't even understand how they made it look so easy.

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>And then you made it look hard.

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing, Like, for whatever reason, I thought

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that this was going to be a cakewalk for you

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 2>and THEO but whatever. The legs, I was like, Oh,

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, they're about to it's over for everybody.

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:42.160
<v Speaker 1>They're about to eat this up.

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 4>And oh boy, I didn't even realize. Jordan said, yeah,

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 4>use your leg Number one way to climb a wall.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 4>It's to use your legs. Where I would naturally thaw,

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 4>it's your arms. And so I know the part that

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 4>you're talking about, like that once you get to the

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 4>top running and jumping, I would have ate that up.

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 4>But then I don't know, child being that high, I

0:25:58.280 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 4>probably would have got scared.

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it looks fun though, it looks very like I

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 4>It did look fun. Oh it was badss. I mean,

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 4>I wish I was able to do it.

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But can we just talk for a moment about THEO

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>not even getting his landing right? Like I think? And

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>it was interesting seeing because I feel like at the

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the season, people THEO was one of the

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>names people were kind of worried about, and then he

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>started to show he was gassing out a little bit

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>in dailies and challenges, and then I think that concern

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>or that commentary kind of went down or got quieter

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and died down.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 1>One thing that didn't get quieter was the sort of

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>bananas versus everybody. We see him get multiple arguments and

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>fights in a way that doesn't necessarily feel like his

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>standard way of playing, Like, yes, he always puts people off,

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>but this just feels like he's just going around guns

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>of blazing to everyone. What is your take on it?

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like he came into the house different

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>than he had maybe in previous seasons.

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 4>I think the number of people on this show from

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 4>the beginning with starting with forty probably intimidated him because

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 4>he realized he would have to potentially share the spotlight

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 4>with thirty nine other people, and so he had to

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 4>make a big splash and like do a lot more

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 4>than he already normally does, and so, you know, I

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 4>just feel like that was kind of what he was doing.

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 4>But then at the same time and in the same breath,

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 4>he is one of the ghosts of this show, and

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 4>he knows how to serve the part. He knows how

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 4>to get the party started, and he knows how to

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 4>how to throw grenades and light fires, and like he's

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 4>fantastic for the show and the ecosystem of what this is,

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 4>the competition. So like, I have no hate for Johnny Bananas.

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 4>He built this thing, right, yeah, yeah, But I think

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 4>that's just him being him on steroids because he had

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 4>thirty nine other personalities to share the spotlight with, and

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 4>so he was like, I gotta do the most, which

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 4>is what he did all season. But also it's like

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 4>if he doesn't, if you extract everything that he did,

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, for better or worse, I mean, they're that's

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the meat and potatoes, you know, of

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 4>what the season is. So I don't know, I feel

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 4>like he's just a necessary evil.

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe hanging out with I love New York rubbed off

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>on him.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh, he didn't even need that. Like Bananas is a

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 4>one man band on his own. He don't need nobody else.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>What do you think Olivia's end goal was when she

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>was having that conversation with him?

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Like what was she what was she trying to get

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 3>out of that?

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 4>Uh? Well, here's the thing I think, Oh, let me.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 4>I definitely got to say this. She hasn't spoken this yet,

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 4>but I do believe that Johnny Banana's had a serious

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.719
<v Speaker 4>crush on her, oh from well before the show even started,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>and there was a documentation in the likes and he

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 4>put on her page. He was obviously a fan of her.

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 4>And I think that like she's never seen him like that,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 4>you know how sometimes the guy on the playground like yeah,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, like something like that was

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 4>like he just kind of picks on her, but like secretly,

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 4>like if he had a shot, there would be no

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 4>scenario where he would go at Olivia. I think that,

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, she chowse THEO and I don't know, for

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 4>whatever reason, he internalized it as if like he was

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 4>an option and he and he just perspectfully never was

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.239
<v Speaker 4>so like I don't know why he kind of like

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 4>tried to make an enemy out of her. But Olivia,

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 4>for one, I can say, never talked about this man. Yeah,

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 4>I was with her twenty four to seven. We sat

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 4>in the closet, and sat on the bus and set

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 4>to the bar and in our beds and gossiped all

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 4>the time, and he was never the topic of conversation.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.479
<v Speaker 4>So like the fact that she was always in his

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 4>mouth to me was like just I was like, he

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 4>obviously wanted her in some capacity, and then like once

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 4>she got with you know, THEO who was connected with

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 4>you know, other members of Air for and the whatever,

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 4>the whole, like like many alliances that were going on,

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 4>he was just like, I'm not messing with all y'all,

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 4>with any of y'all. But I think it just I

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 4>think it stems from I don't care if he acknowledges

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 4>it or not. He probably never will. He definitely had

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 4>a crush on Olivia and it just didn't pan out

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 4>for him in that way. And I think that it

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 4>was just kind of like you know, like the boy

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 4>that pushes the girl on the playground type of thing.

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I think that actually that sounds like a

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>valid I mean I'm thinking about it now, because who

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>was it that came on our podcast recently? Was it Devin?

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that with the theory that part of

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Bananas lashing out is because he's used to sort of

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>having a crush in the house or being crushed on,

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like back in the day it was multiple people, and

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>then now he's in a place where yes he built

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>this thing, Yes he is an icon, but no, he's

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the hot.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 4>New or you know what I mean.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>In that way he is looked at as like the

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>big brother more and more and so, and I thought

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that was an interesting theory that we hadn't considered before,

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>but kind of makes sense.

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, and to your point, like when I think

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 4>about other people in the house and like some of

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 4>the maybe friction or just kind of like them getting

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 4>antsy or anxious who are single or like didn't have

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 4>who started spiraling but didn't have somebody delately next to

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 4>because that shit really does matter. Like I've never played

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>the game like with the Showman ever until this time around.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 4>But before Pilae and I like hooked up heavy, there

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 4>was a moment where I was having you know, anthombic

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 4>episodes and panic attacks, and I was just for whatever reason,

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't understand, because I wanted to be there. I

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 4>was so unable to sleep and uncomfortable and have an anxiety

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 4>that I almost left. And it wasn't until like he

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 4>and I started hooking up that like all of that subsided.

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Like I wonder if I hadn't, you know, what type

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 4>of temperament would I have been in throughout the entire season?

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 4>What I've likely been on a hedge? What I have

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 4>been you know, I told you I started freaking out

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 4>when the vibrated. I've like, I don't know.

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, we have to take a quick break, but

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back after this.

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, let's get back to the show.

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about you going into this deliberation really quick,

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>because it had to be tough knowing that two of

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>what more and your closest friends in the house are

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the ones that you are you know, are contenders to

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>go against you, So it's kind of like a lose lose.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Did the three of you guys talk about it outside

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the deliberation, like was there something we didn't see or

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>did you guys save it all for in the room.

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we obviously talked about it, like yikes. When

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 4>we looked at the reality of like, hey, it's one

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 4>of us is sending the other one home, and then

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 4>that's why there was so much pressure on us to

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 4>perform in the challenge, was like, okay, we need to

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>not all three of us, worst case scenario can be

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 4>down there like somebody else used to be down there,

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, so that at least one of or two

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 4>of the lols survived. But it just turned out, like

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 4>Johnny Bana said, it was poetic justice. It was like

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 4>you couldn't have written a better, you know, a story

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 4>or like situation for the plot for us to all

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 4>be staring at each other knowing that you know, that

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 4>night one of us was toast. But in terms of

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 4>like I never approached Kylon with the idea of Okay,

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 4>I want to go against this person versus that person.

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I totally trusted his instincts in the game. So I

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like, hey, dude, I mean I already

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 4>know that the fact that I'm still here is insane,

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 4>and and like I know where I rank in terms

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 4>of like the power structure, in terms of my own

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 4>strengths and weaknesses. So like neither of these girls are

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 4>a tassa. Both of these girls are good at everything.

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 4>I can beat them, they can beat me, Like you

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 4>figure it out, Like I'm just you know, gonna hang back.

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Because also I just couldn't imagine trying to like politic

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 4>against one of one of the right. So it really

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 4>didn't matter to me. And then also I just had

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 4>tremendous confidence in myself in the arena. It's like that

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 4>is the one place that I typically thrive in the

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 4>one place, and this whole thing is like I don't

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 4>have zero fear down there, and so whereas most people

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>want to avoid it at all costs, I'm just not

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 4>scared of it. So I was like, Okay, I just

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 4>have to lock in and get ready for this. You

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 4>can focus on which one of your girls that you're

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 4>going to send in. Because the other thing is Kylin

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 4>was playing most of his game with Olivia and Michelle

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.959
<v Speaker 4>is his number one, number two to my knowledge, So

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 4>what he communicated to me so like I knew it

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 4>was not gonna be easy no matter what, because you know,

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 4>to them, they also were like, well where does Naya Wrika?

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 4>She has number one? I mean obviously at some point

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 4>during the halfway point, he said, you're my number one.

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he even was crazy enough to say that

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 4>he wanted to run a minor with me, And I'm like, y,

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 4>ain't gotta do all that, buddy, like Austin in La.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 4>But like, I knew that this was not gonna be

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 4>an easy situation, so I didn't want to make it harder.

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, Okay, if you really are if

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:18.479
<v Speaker 4>you really want to see me come back in this house,

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 4>you pick my opponent based on who you think I

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 4>can be in whatever. It's the possible game that t

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 4>is gonna throw at us, which you can never predict,

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 4>right right, But I just I took my hands off

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 4>of it. I wanted to enjoy what might potentially be

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 4>my last night in the house with my people and

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 4>like celebrate that and just get locked in for whatever

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 4>TDY threw at me. I was not in any way

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 4>interested in politicing against either Michelle or Olivia. Just it

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 4>wasn't gonna happen. Now if they had conversations with him,

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure they did. Like I'm sure Olivia approached Kylin

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 4>and said, hey, dude, like I think she was his

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 4>number one and Michelle was his number two. I think

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 4>that was the pecking order outside of me being his

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 4>supposed number one. So I don't know, but I'm assuming

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 4>they probably just to try and spare themselves approach him.

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know how those conversations were because I

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 4>also asked him not to tell me. I didn't think

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 4>it was I didn't need to know. You know what

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know what.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you said that because it changed my perspective.

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I was convinced one hundred percent when we watched it

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the episode and you're crying, you start crying, right, I

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>assumed that was a release, like built up relief, finally

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>able to release from the news of Jordan. I thought

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 2>that was from the heartbreak of Jordan. But listening to

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 2>you speak now, it's like, no, I'm actually I'm going

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 2>up against one of my girls.

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I never would have sat here.

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I thought you was crying over Michelle like I never

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 3>would have thought that Jordan.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 4>I found it was about over the fact that, like

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 4>when I was looking at them, like I could grow,

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 4>I kept busting his tears over it right now, because

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 4>like I said, in the final thing, it was like

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 4>I had I have been so well received by those

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 4>people in the house that like I didn't. I don't

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 4>go there expecting to make friends, like I have an

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 4>abundant amount of friends and love in my real life.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 4>So it's like I come there to compete for the

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 4>vibes to get that little coin and then get out,

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 4>and so like, I wasn't expecting to feel so much love,

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 4>specifically between two girls who were already bonded as best friends,

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 4>who like immediately roped me in and like immediately had

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 4>my back, and like they it had nothing to do

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 4>with the game, and I don't think it was because

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 4>they didn't see me as a threat. It's like I've

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 4>never laughed harder in my life than like I did

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 4>in the Challenge House, specifically in the room with those girls.

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 1>And I like the idea like that love that for

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you did you did? Because you mentioned so these are

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>like sort of new friends that you've made, right, and

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a really tight bond. And then obviously you and

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Jordan have a long standing history, right, like you guys

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>were in real world together, and you mentioned you hadn't

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>explicitly spoken to him about the hierarchy or like where

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>you fit on his team, and blah blah blah, is

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it because you kind of felt that love and support

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 1>with these girls that you kind of assumed like, hey,

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Jordan and I are cool, we're friends. Of course we

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>have each other's back. Like were you shocked to hear

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>what Bananas shared? Like what kind of went through your mind?

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>What did we not see finding out that information?

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 4>You have? Okay, let's break this down. So, like, here's

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 4>the thing. I knew Jordan, unless it was between Tory

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 4>and Laurel, would never make me a target, period. So

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 4>I do we were bonded and I could rest on

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 4>him protecting me in that way. However, the minute it

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 4>broke off into a new game, what I did not

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 4>do is assessed what game is being played at that moment.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 4>And so now, as a realist, it's like, Naya, this

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 4>is the halfway point. This is actually past the halfway point.

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 4>These men and these women are about to start redistributing

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 4>like their power rankings and whatever, because they need to

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 4>figure out who are the strongest players in the game

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 4>that they might be paired with in a final should

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 4>it be pairs, and let's be real, says it ain't

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 4>you on anybody, right, So when Silent said, oh, we

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 4>would have run the plane with you. He said, babe, please, like, no,

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 4>like you, I want you to actually win. And if

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 4>I want you to win, I would not selfishly tell

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 4>you to pick me out of all these other women

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 4>who were more prepared than I am. If I had done,

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 4>if I had prepared, then it'd be like okay, bet,

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Because honestly, I was like, this man is gonna win it.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 4>So like if I want to get the bag of money, yeah,

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 4>let him take me. Let him pick love over everything

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 4>he goes and take me to the finish line. So

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 4>and I we saw, you know, we've seen players like

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 4>there'd be someone stronger than the other, and and and

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 4>pairs they work dynamically, and so like I've been to

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 4>a final and I was like, you just never know,

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I might be able to turn it on. I've been

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 4>working out at that point. He had been like training

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:41.959
<v Speaker 4>me and all that stuff. So I was like, Okay,

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 4>I might be ready to go. But like, I don't

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 4>feel good saying yeah, protect me at all costs because

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 4>I just respect the game too much and know that

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 4>I didn't do the work before coming in here to

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 4>set him up for failure.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, So you feel like Jordan's sort of had that

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>saint like it made it clicked for you, that perhaps

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why it clicked.

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 4>But I wanted him to tell it. I wanted him

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 4>to tell me the truth, and he didn't. And so

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 4>like in that moment when you see us on a

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 4>couch where I said, hey, yo, so I just want

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 4>to let you know, cause here's the thing, he could

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 4>have been like, Sis, now you know right, you ain't

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 4>on it now that the game has changed and the

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 4>target it's not about the target thing. And we're not

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 4>on eras anymore, and we're not on the same team.

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 4>You're not insulated in the same way this. I'm here

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 4>for that money. Like the first conversation me and Jordan

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.240
<v Speaker 4>Hart had, I sid, Damn, you don't really be partying

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 4>with us? He said partying. He said, I'm here to

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 4>take all of y'all's money, and I thought that was

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 4>the most gangster line ever ever aired. But he said

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 4>it with his feet up, and I was like, Damn,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 4>he's for real too, Like that's just how he moves,

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 4>and so I know what assignment he's on. And I

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 4>would never be delusional in expecting him to. I would

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.959
<v Speaker 4>just not anybody that I fucked with and I knew

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 4>where I ranked in terms of my ability to win

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 4>one of these type of finals. I would never expect

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 4>them to choose me when I look at everybody, all

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 4>the other strong women that were better prepared. I just

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.919
<v Speaker 4>want him to tell me the truth. And like that

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 4>part was like what do you think I'm gonna do?

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm not the old Naya that's gonna like, you know,

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 4>freak out and you know, get kicked off the show.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Like just tell me so that I can figure out

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 4>what my new options are because you know, and then

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 4>in the same breath, I'll be completely honest. Like at

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 4>that point it was Neamiyah, Kylan and Corey for me anyway.

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 4>But I just wanted him to tell me the truth

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 4>because I'm sensitive about Jordan, and it's like I can

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 4>handle the truth. I'm a different I'm not the same girl,

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 4>little immature girl that I used to be where you

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 4>couldn't tell her the suth or she's freak out. So

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 4>like that part was just kind of corny to me.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 4>But like other than that, I wasn't. I didn't. I

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 4>didn't sleep over it, Like I knew what time it

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 4>was as soon as TJ said, take off your air

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 4>of jerseys and put on these all black chirts. I'm like,

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm on bor all time. I'm not. I'm have to

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 4>figure this out on my own.

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I love that. I mean, I don't love that, but

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I totally relate to I get it. I totally get it.

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>We want to Yeah, go ahead, day no?

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Because it was a chaotic episode, right everybody was speaking

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>up saying how they felt, causing chaos, freaking, havoc, all

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 2>of the things. I was surprised by Rachel, okay, because

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 2>Rachel had some choice words for you in the episode also,

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and I want to know what your response.

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 3>How did that come? Like, what was the deal with

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 3>you and Rachel?

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.919
<v Speaker 4>So in a previous episode, me and Jordan, our team

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 4>had won and we sent in Tina and Durell, and

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 4>the only option to not save Tana Darrell was Nea

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 4>Maya and Avive, and Aviv gets saved by default because

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.760
<v Speaker 4>me and Maya is my number one in this game

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 4>and damn near in life. Like me and this dude

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 4>are so locked in on a level where it's like

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 4>if you're close to us, you know, so, like I

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 4>understood that she kind of wasn't maybe privy to the

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 4>depth of me and the and Maya's relationship. But it's

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 4>like this is a man where it's like the average

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 4>time span and when we talk on the phone is

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 4>two hours wow, and it's every week and it's been

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 4>like that for the last three years. And it's like

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 4>he comes to la he sees you when I if

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 4>I pull up to whoever, bump fuck the town? What

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 4>do they living? Okay?

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>See, okay, make it the Kansas City holl You will

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>get kicked off this podcast in M MF. And it's it.

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I may live in New York now, but I am

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Cacy for life.

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Roll it back. Bye, bad, my bad, my bad, susato

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 4>what I mean? Like I that's my brother, Like I

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 4>can't even and so like the thing is, everybody in

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.280
<v Speaker 4>the house came to understand it, and they weren't stripping

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 4>off of it, but Rachel was and she wouldn't let

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 4>it go. Really the part that bothered me. Everybody in

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 4>the house had a number one someone who was off limits.

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 4>We saw it with Avery and Derek. We saw it

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 4>with Laurel and Jordan, We saw it with Torri and Jordan.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 4>When I did it, it was a problem to her.

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 4>It was a problem to Tina, and she wouldn't let

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 4>it go. What she did was she went to her

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 4>closest allies in the house and says she hadn't bendetta

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 4>against me, and she's gonna stop it nothing to get

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 4>me and me and my out, which to me, I

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 4>thought it was hilarious because I'm like, now she's playing

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 4>an emotional game, because why are you worried about little

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 4>o me? You should take me to the final night?

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 4>Smoke my shit, right if you're smart. But you're so

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 4>upset that I chose my best friend in the game

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 4>over a woman who is not even like in my

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 4>top ten twenty of best female friends. I love Tina

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 4>to death, like, don't get me wrong, I fuck with

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 4>her heavy, but she is delusional in her thinking that

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 4>I would ever pick her over Niamiah, especially when wait,

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 4>let's just take let's just take the fact that Neami

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 4>is my brother. I owe derell one after he made

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 4>me his first target. No matter how you paint it,

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 4>if there's if there's if there's another scenario where Neamyah's

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 4>not the guy and then the other guy attached to

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 4>you with somebody that I'm working with. Okay, fine, you

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 4>get saved, but not in this scenario. And I just

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't like that I was being punished for doing what

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 4>everybody else was doing, which was saving their friends, but

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 4>when I did it, it was apparently criminal. And so

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 4>she has she had energy to focus on me and

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.359
<v Speaker 4>getting me and Niamiyah, and that part I just thought

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 4>was whack because she didn't need to do that, Like

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 4>she is such a freaking stud her former athlete, like

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 4>she is on the mount much more. I am in

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:05.479
<v Speaker 4>awe of Rachel in every facet like of just I could.

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 4>I could literally go down the list of why I'm

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.280
<v Speaker 4>inspired by her. So I just thought it was really

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 4>whack that she was was making this emotional decision to

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 4>come at me over something that everybody else in the

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 4>game had permission to do. That was lame to me.

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is weird that she would target that so hard.

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, although I just wonder if it's inspired by

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Tina went in, Like I wonder if

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that's really just see I don't know, I.

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Mean, it was it was obviously she felt like she

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.439
<v Speaker 4>was doing it for Tina. But I'm like, if that's

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 4>the case, then I'm gonna have to go and check Tina,

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 4>because it's like, what is our what is our friendship?

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.399
<v Speaker 4>Because if you would tell your friend on the way

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 4>out it's a gun for me, then that's a problem.

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:48.439
<v Speaker 4>Right then are we really friends? Because like I thought,

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 4>me and Tina, she left saying no hard feelings, literally

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 4>hugged me in the arena she eliminated. She said no

0:44:56.719 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 4>hard feelings on her way into the elimination. Which one

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 4>is it? Like? Right, do you understand the move that

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 4>I had to make or do you not? And would

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 4>you be willing to disregard what I've said that I

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 4>have to do, and that is to honor my brother

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 4>in the game, who is higher the totem pole than you,

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 4>that you would tell your homegirl on the way out, YO,

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 4>get her out of here. If you would do that,

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 4>then that's corny. I don't I don't have any proof.

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that Tina would do it. But I'm like,

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 4>what was what inspired Rachel to do that? Right? Because

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 4>you YouTube, somebody said something to her like.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 3>YouTube have been having it back and forth.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Will had a back and forth on Twitter lengthy, but

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like I don't.

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how to really put it.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 2>It didn't seem like you guys were angry with each other.

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like you were explaining yourself, and she was

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>more so like, it is what it is next time

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 2>I see you, basically in the sense of the challenge,

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the game, it's on site.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 3>That's what I got from you.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just I don't I don't even like

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 4>give it that much attention because it's like I just

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 4>first of all, I just live in the light these days.

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 4>But also I have exhausted myself at explaining this to

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 4>Tina at length outside of the show on the phone

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.919
<v Speaker 4>for hours, and it's weird because it's like I need

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.280
<v Speaker 4>you to decide either you fuck with me or you don't,

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 4>because I can't do anything other than tell you the truth,

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 4>which has been the same story since the day I

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 4>came and delivered the dudes and said you're going in

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 4>says yeah, like there's nothing you No matter how long

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 4>we talk about this, my stance will never change. Now

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 4>I feel like you were disrespecting me by making me

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 4>explain it to you a hundred times, because I would

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 4>never do that to you. I would never do that

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 4>to her. I would accept it, understand the reality of it,

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 4>and move on and say, you know what, I played

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 4>a hell of a game. I didn't win in the elimination,

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 4>like that's why me, like whatever, but like she needed

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 4>need to explain it to her over and over and

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 4>over again, over again, over again, and then if she

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 4>did it on Twitter, and it's like you are now

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 4>what I because every time I talk to her, every

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 4>time the conversation ends, she says, I'm not mad, she

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 4>says I understand, and then for whatever reason, she wakes

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 4>up and it's like she just control all the de

0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 4>lead of the conversation we had before, and she's mad again,

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 4>and like I don't know if it's just that's just

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 4>who she is. Again. That also proves that I don't

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 4>know her that well. I love her, but I don't

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.399
<v Speaker 4>know how she is, how she operates emotionally. Because once

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 4>I say I'm done with it, I'm done with it.

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 4>You don't have to worry about me waking up and

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 4>like having amnesia. It's just like I don't know. It

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 4>was exhausting, and I hate it that she took it

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.399
<v Speaker 4>to Twitter because she had my phone number, and then

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 4>she tried to call me after that and I said, no,

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 4>we'll talk about it on the reunion, since you wanted

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 4>to bring it on the public stage, we'll do it

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 4>there too. We're I'm not picking up the phone and

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 4>talking about this again because you now have regarded every no, no,

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like I love Tina so much that

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 4>I will love her from afar if that is what

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 4>is required, because I also do require my respect. You

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 4>to respect me.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Of course, right of course, And that's on standards and

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>boundaries very much.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 4>Boundaries, yep.

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, Sis, I have to ask you this with love.

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>What boundary were you setting with the math equations and

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 1>the elimination because okay, walk us through, walk it. Okay,

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So you show up, you see these boxes. Are you

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>feeling good about it? Are you feeling oh crap about it?

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you? Yeah?

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 4>You know what, I'm not even gonna lie to you.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.479
<v Speaker 4>Even though it was math, which is like my krids

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 4>and I I was feeling really good. And this is

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 4>why Michelle proclaimed the whole season that she was trash

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 4>at math also, So I'm like, okay, at least I

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:27.839
<v Speaker 4>know I'm not going up against a whiz, because if

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.840
<v Speaker 4>it's a wiz or someone who's even mildly openly confident

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 4>about it. I'm they're gonna smoke me. But the fact

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 4>that I knew I could smell it on her that

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 4>there was this she was afraid, I'm like, oh, there's

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 4>a lot of hope here. And then with the boxes,

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm way bigger than her and stronger than her and

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 4>can lift a heavier load. So I'm like, okay, this

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 4>is an equalizer game, whether people realize it or not.

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 4>All I have to do. I don't know what type

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 4>of math they're gonna give us, but I'm hoping it's

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 4>four times four.

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>What kind of math was it that it?

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 4>Girl? It was No. It was my worst nightmare. Because

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 4>mind you, I did start trying to practice the math

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the like towards the end of

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 4>the season, Sadoku all that stuff, because I'm like, hey,

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:08.399
<v Speaker 4>this is cute. I might end up in a final

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 4>like he because I just like was still there. And

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.439
<v Speaker 4>so I was doing my part to like practice math

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 4>and had the boys tutoring me or whatever. And so

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:21.479
<v Speaker 4>when I saw the compound math problems, I'm like, what, Okay.

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.239
<v Speaker 4>So it wasn't even like little stuff. It'd be like

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 4>seven hundred and thirty five divided by one hundred and

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 4>ten minus this or that it or it would be

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 4>like five hundred times twenty five minus one hundred. It

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 4>was just like layers to it.

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you use pim dice.

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Not pim dic? What is that? Please? Excuse you use?

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Please exact parentheses? Xponent, multiplication, division, addition, attraction.

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 4>Listen? Do you know what I do when I need

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 4>to know the answer to anything math related? Do you

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 4>know what I do? I say, Hey, Siri, what is yo?

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:00.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't even have time to pull out a cal

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:01.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm going straight to Google.

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 3>There were gonna tell you every time?

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 4>Wait, why is theory on my other phone? Just start

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 4>talking to me. When I said that, that's larious because

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 4>she used.

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:08.240
<v Speaker 1>To you calling her right.

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 4>Now?

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Here she go, here she go. Okay, So so the

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>math problems fair? All right? It caught you off guard.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>We see two very different strategies, which I thought was

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>so interesting. Where Michelle right is like doing a couple

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>math problems then taking a few boxes, and you've seen

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>dead set on doing all the math problems first and

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 1>taking the other boxes. Why did you fight so hard?

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Tell us, tell us what happened?

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So here's the thing we both started on the

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 4>outer side where the crowd could see us, and we

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 4>both had two math problems. On that side. Me and

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 4>her finished those math poms at the same time, and

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 4>I was shocked. I'm like, did you know math? Like

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:45.839
<v Speaker 4>how something?

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>You doing this right now?

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 4>I was literally like whoa, Like how did I get

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 4>the answer? Because I was just free balling it. But

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 4>I think it was because I was composed, I was calm,

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 4>and when I got to the other side. What changed

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 4>immediately was I heard her move her chains and that

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 4>my brain shut off because I didn't realize that you

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 4>could move the chains and before you had all the

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 4>math problems finished. I saw you had to finish all

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 4>the maths and then you can be the change something.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, did she just immediately solve the other

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.760
<v Speaker 4>two problems? And like now she's done? So at that point,

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't add my own hands together, like it was

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 4>over with, Like I my brain completely shut off, and

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like holy shit, so like and I just remember,

0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:33.320
<v Speaker 4>like I was like, cause you you know, it's happening

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 4>in slow motion and she's going and I'm hearing the

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 4>crowd saying what are you doing? No, I R what

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:40.319
<v Speaker 4>are you doing, like move even because they can't see me.

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Now now I'm stuck behind the boxes that moved to

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 4>the other side, and I just felt it slipping away.

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 4>But again, remember what I said about how I had

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 4>composure on the other side and I was able to

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 4>do something that I normally would never be good at

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 4>and figure out this like compound math. The minute I

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 4>lost composure because I heard her moving the chains, it

0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:57.719
<v Speaker 4>was over with.

0:51:58.200 --> 0:51:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear them shouting at you to move? Because

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>we see and obviously you know that like there's in

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>an actual elimination, you can't hear everything, like you know,

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>like you can hear some things, we can't hear everything,

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>but what we see them is eventually telling you, like,

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, take a break, like move some boxes and

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>then come back. You'll take a break, move some box.

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.879
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even hear it. Honestly, I had already told

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 4>myself that you can't do anything. You can't unhook these

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 4>and drag them across the arena until you finish the math.

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 4>And so even though they were saying that people were

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 4>offering advice, I, you know, very wrongly was under the

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 4>impression that it didn't matter. I thought I knew the

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 4>rules and they didn't. I'm like, they don't realize, they

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:36.279
<v Speaker 4>don't realize that I can start and can't do this.

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 4>So I was just kind of like, nah, you better,

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 4>you better figure something out, like you better just take

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 4>a deep breath. And I kept starting the math come

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 4>over and over and over again. And the wildest part

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 4>is apparently somebody said you had the right past as

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 4>you were putting it in the wrong block, oh man,

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 4>because they could see me, so they could see and

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 4>they're just like, she has it, but she's just she's

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 4>so flustered that she's just sitting there putting it in

0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 4>the same like, try another lot, but I just I

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 4>didn't do that. But I will say this, when I

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 4>started moving the boxes, I remember just being like, oh

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 4>my god, like truly, And Michelle is a freaking badass.

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 4>And this is not taken away from her. Win she

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 4>kicked my ass. But I thought if I would have

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.279
<v Speaker 4>started moving boxes and given my brain a break and

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 4>then allowed myself to move them faster than her, because

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:24.319
<v Speaker 4>let's be real, I would have like, just I had

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 4>more manpower than she did. Yeah, And if I would

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 4>have gone back to it and in those runs back

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 4>and forth, transferring the boxes. I would have built my confidence,

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:34.840
<v Speaker 4>I would have been more composed. There is an absolute

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 4>chance that I beat her in that one. Yeah, and

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 4>so I just I love like I love that moment

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 4>for me. And again, let me please preface this was

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 4>saying she kicked my ass. She was supposed to win.

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 4>Thank god she did, because when I saw what was

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 4>happening in the next episode, I'm like, yeah, no, not

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 4>trying to be a part of that a mini final,

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 4>but it was everything for me as a learning lesson,

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, number one, like all the preparation that matters

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 4>before you come to a challenge, and too like composure,

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 4>m h. I felt like so many of my fumbles

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 4>and so many of my errors this season were unforced

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 4>because of just the lack complete lack of composure. When

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 4>TJ Blue the horn, yeah and.

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:18.839
<v Speaker 1>So everything yeah, like that game, so much of it,

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 1>like so much of it is mind over everything, Like

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>if you have control of your mind, you've already made

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it three quarters of the way through this show.

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, And that is my biggest takeaway. Corey is

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 4>who put it in my head in my first elimination

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 4>when I tripped over my own feet and like put

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 4>in Amanda's ball on her play put it in the thing,

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 4>and obviously I've won that one by the skin of

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:50.319
<v Speaker 4>my teeth. But he when we got back to the

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 4>house and said, Naya, you've got to find composure, he goes,

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 4>you terrify all of these women. Yeah, whether they admit

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 4>it or not, they don't want to lose to you

0:54:57.640 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 4>for their own ego or whatever. But also like you're

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:03.360
<v Speaker 4>just a You just don't have the composure at all.

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, you have to find it. And for

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:09.919
<v Speaker 4>the most part, I did not during the season at all,

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 4>but I do acknowledge in defeat that is something that

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 4>I absolutely have to have packed in my bags before

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 4>if I were to ever do another one of these again,

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:19.879
<v Speaker 4>Like I have to have it from day one, from

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 4>the first whistle like period, and that's something that I

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 4>have to work on, you know, the in the off season.

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I say this with love the same way we were

0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 1>speaking about THEO you too, are you not just physically, mentally,

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 1>emotionally are built to go the distance here? You just

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.839
<v Speaker 1>have to pack up your tools when you come back

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:43.680
<v Speaker 1>next season to make sure that you're implementing them all

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to get there. Heck, I say it about myself sometimes

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I just know I'm not going to the gym like that.

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>So it is what it is. And I'm older now,

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but you you know, and not everyone can say that.

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Some people have to work kind of twice as hard.

0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 1>But really, if you put in even any of the

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>work and stay out of Josh or Kayland or whomever else,

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, girl, now.

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 4>You're right, and listen. I receive that. And again, it's

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 4>just like the only real opponent that I have is me,

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 4>and I've spent my whole life I was always the

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 4>agent of chaos and self sabotage. Like had all the favor,

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 4>had all the favor, had all the natural skill set,

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 4>the talent, the charisma, the personality, all the things, but

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 4>I would find a way to fuck it all up

0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 4>by getting in my own way. And so like I

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 4>as you've seen in recent years, it's like I refuse

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 4>to do that anymore. Like, yeah, I don't have to

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:39.879
<v Speaker 4>be Hurricane Nya. I don't have to turn up on nobody.

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't have to like go to like low blows

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 4>and do vile things and like hurt people. It's like

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 4>I can stand up for myself I can call people

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:49.840
<v Speaker 4>in their shit, but I could do it in a

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 4>way that I still feel like I could sleep well

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:56.840
<v Speaker 4>well at night and be proud of how I handle myself.

0:56:56.880 --> 0:57:00.839
<v Speaker 4>And I also need to do that same growth with

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 4>in other areas and like the mental, mental, physical preparation

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 4>for this, and I think also it really just was

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:12.759
<v Speaker 4>down to figuring out what is my why because I

0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 4>still don't. Damn.

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Th hmmm, that's interesting, you know what, Naya.

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I have to say this one thing I can say

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 2>about you, and I appreciate it is every single time

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 2>we see you and when we talk to you, cause

0:57:27.000 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I think this is my second time interviewing you on

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 2>a podcast, not when I've seen you like in life,

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 2>but on the pod.

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 3>You are so committed to being better than you were yesterday.

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like it's like.

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Your personal mission to continuously grow and not just grow

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to say that I've grown, but grown, grow and learn

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:50.000
<v Speaker 2>from who you were yesterday. You take accountability, you admit

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>when you were wrong, like you just you you you're growing,

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 2>and I think that it's so encouraging for other people.

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 2>It should be encouraging for other people. And I just

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 2>want to give you your flowers on them because we

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 2>don't see that, especially in these circles.

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 3>We don't see that. Guys just want to give your

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 3>flowers on that.

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 4>But I received that, Thank you guys truly, and I

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 4>think that that is what my story will be in

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 4>this is that you can you can evolve, you can

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 4>change for the better. You can say hey, I need

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 4>help or like this, I'm the common denominator of my problems.

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 4>And I don't want to be the person that walks

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 4>into a room and people walk out, you know, like

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 4>I want people to feel safe around me. And like

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize that what I was doing wasn't funny.

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 4>I was actually really hurting people and it's like, Okay,

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 4>there's something wrong internally here, and like I need professional help,

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 4>Like trying to figure this out on my own is

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 4>not working. And then also if you know the family

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 4>that I come from, it was shameful because I knew better.

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 4>I had the most perfect upbringing. I couldnot be more

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 4>proud of my older sister, my mother, my father, like

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 4>the lineage that I come from. So to just go

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.920
<v Speaker 4>through life acting a fool because life had allowed me

0:58:57.960 --> 0:58:59.760
<v Speaker 4>to do that, it was like I want to honor

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 4>my last name and my mother and father and like

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:05.040
<v Speaker 4>where I come from. So it was like, okay, this

0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 4>it just wasn't cool anymore. It wasn't it wasn't as

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 4>funny as I thought. It was, so like I had

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 4>to do the work, you know, outside of the show,

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:13.320
<v Speaker 4>and I didn't think I would ever get called again.

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:15.920
<v Speaker 4>So I wasn't doing the work because I wanted to

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 4>get pulled back into this, Like I was so at

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 4>peace with never coming back, and I found a career

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 4>that I loved and something I was proud to do.

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 4>But I'm glad that at least people were able to

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 4>see that sort of redemption arc not from a vanity purpose,

0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 4>because I don't need people to realize that I'm a

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 4>better person. I'm a good person. I know that I am.

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:36.120
<v Speaker 4>It's not for that, but if I inspired somebody else

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:39.440
<v Speaker 4>to change for the better and to like learn to

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.200
<v Speaker 4>do the right thing and to walk away from things

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.280
<v Speaker 4>that don't serve them and to handle themselves differently than like,

0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 4>like even just seeing me and Avery together, people are like,

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 4>what is that even? So was that fight even real?

0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, that sh it was real, Like we

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 4>got to kill each other, but we healed we forgave get.

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:57.440
<v Speaker 4>We left space for time for each of us to,

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, like have space to do that, and like

1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 4>I can't. When I see clips, old clips of like

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 4>the things that I did back in the day, it's

1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:10.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't I know this sounds really cliche, but I

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 4>don't recognize who that person is. Like, I know, it

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:14.720
<v Speaker 4>looks like Naya, it looks like me, it sounds like me,

1:00:15.040 --> 1:00:17.720
<v Speaker 4>but that version of me died, yeah, and so like

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:19.640
<v Speaker 4>I just don't have any attachment to it. So it's

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:22.480
<v Speaker 4>like it's it's not even funny to me anymore. It's

1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 4>like people send me thish it all the time, and

1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I mean, I get it, but it's like

1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:27.800
<v Speaker 4>that version of me does not exist at all.

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:31.040
<v Speaker 4>So and I'm happy. I'm proud that that version of

1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:31.439
<v Speaker 4>me died.

1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really is just like like Day said, it's

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.479
<v Speaker 1>beautiful to see. And I think, you know, you spoke

1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:39.920
<v Speaker 1>about how people can grow, and I think it's a

1:00:39.960 --> 1:00:43.240
<v Speaker 1>thing where every living thing is either growing or dying.

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So all of us it's either we're putting in the

1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:48.640
<v Speaker 1>work to just grow and be better. Not perfect, because

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 1>no one is, but constantly, like as we move through life.

1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You should be learning something new, you should be challenging yourself.

1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:56.120
<v Speaker 1>And I also think that's one thing that challengers don't

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.880
<v Speaker 1>always get credit for. It is like, yes, we're doing

1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:01.560
<v Speaker 1>this to secure the bag, blah blah blah, and their

1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:04.160
<v Speaker 1>egos involved in all the things. But also this show

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:07.080
<v Speaker 1>often pushes people beyond their comfort zones and it's a

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 1>beautiful opportunity to be able to live that out loud.

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:12.720
<v Speaker 1>But in general, everyone should be striving to be better,

1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.280
<v Speaker 1>to learn something new, do something new, do something different,

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And it is beautiful to see that in you, Naya.

1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And so you know you can go ahead and send

1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Day and I Ladies of Leisure shirt.

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Very much.

1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:28.040
<v Speaker 1>But I also want to see you work out and

1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:32.600
<v Speaker 1>win a season. Y. Yes, we want to see you

1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:34.400
<v Speaker 1>work out. We want to see you come back. Don't

1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:38.320
<v Speaker 1>get distracted by those boys. Your journey starts today, Naya,

1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for the next season. So if we want to follow

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<v Speaker 1>along with your journey. For those who aren't already following you,

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<v Speaker 1>where can they find you? On socials?

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<v Speaker 4>Very simple? The real Naya More that's spelled n I

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<v Speaker 4>A M O O R E on everything. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so glad you hang out guys so much, like it

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<v Speaker 4>is such an honor to have been invited because like

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<v Speaker 4>spend time with you guys a fellowship over this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that so much. Thank you for making time to

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<v Speaker 1>come on the podcast too.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course my pleasure. And thank you guys again for

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<v Speaker 4>giving me the space to do this. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>mama's got a few dates fined up, so I got

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<v Speaker 4>a calldie's man to figure out who in Spain is

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<v Speaker 4>they can be all the dinner.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, I love having Nia on just so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that she just there's like no filter, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's all self awareness also, which just makes it a

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<v Speaker 1>whole vibe. It makes it so much fun. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone listening took away some things from that interview

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Day if they want to take away some

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<v Speaker 1>things from the growth in your life, where can they

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<v Speaker 1>find you on social.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, be encouraged, because you can find me at church

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<v Speaker 2>telling you how to get right with the Lord. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can also find me on all the socials at davone,

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<v Speaker 2>Diane underscore where I'm also gonna be telling you to

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<v Speaker 2>get right with the lor Devin. Where gonna people find

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<v Speaker 2>you on the socials of the media.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me on devinsmone dot com go to

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<v Speaker 1>my website, done with the weismo with an I dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also find me on Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Live. We're doing some fun games over there now too,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you go to if you just Google Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>and then Devin Simone like liarly, that Google Search Mike

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<v Speaker 1>page will come up, So just click the follow button

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<v Speaker 1>there and also just want to shout out to all

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<v Speaker 1>of the suite. There are some challengers who left some

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<v Speaker 1>really sweet comments regarding Brooklyn, the real world dog my

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<v Speaker 1>dog Rookie, who passed away this month, So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>all for that and I want to dedicate this episode

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<v Speaker 1>to Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Brooklyn all.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to thank you guys for joining us for

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<v Speaker 2>another episode of MTV's Official Challenge podcast. And remember tell

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<v Speaker 2>all your fellow Challenge fans to listen. Listen, all listen, listen,

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