WEBVTT - Could Notre Dame's season really be canceled? 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal home that for me. I'm 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:08.079 a man, I'm for it. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:12.080 be happy. You want to be happy for a day? 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.800 Edith state is that woo woom? 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:20.440 And Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.160 boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandt, joining me 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.760 as always way over there, though not as far as before. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.320 The one and only Dan Rubinstein, sir, how you doing? Man? 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:34.520 Good? 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.839 I am unsure about when I will actually have all 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.440 of my normal goods and wares because I have now 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.519 been away from Brooklyn for going on almost four months. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.279 But no, I am now on Central time. I am 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.600 now on Central time. We have made our way to 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.720 the suburbs of Chicago. Would not have gotten on a 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.360 plane if there weren't family circumstances to attend to. So 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.480 everything is cool. I will just say we're out here 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.400 and we're comfortable, and everybody's good, and I would say 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.280 we'll be here for Do you know what a ray is? 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:10.080 In geometry? 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:10.920 Tie? Hooray. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.040 I've heard ray, but geometry was not my strongest. Strongest 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.360 math line is point to point, ray is open ended 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.200 point to something else. So not exactly sure how long 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.880 we'll be in the suburbs of Chicago, but here we are, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.920 and everybody's cool. So I'm dealing with some family circumstances 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.280 that you know, everybody, everybody deals with. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.160 It's not uncommon. Hopefully everything turns out all right. But 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.280 this is where I and Jody with and I and 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:45.600 the solid toddler are now residing tie. So what better day, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.120 what better change, than to hop on a show to 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.560 discuss north central Indiana private parochial football, Right. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:54.680 I believe that's correct. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:59.440 So, as you might have gathered from the title of 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.480 the show, we are talking a little bit of Notre 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.040 Dame with our good friend Pete Sampson, longtime friend of 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:04.400 the show. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.720 Yeah, gold standard, best of the best, love Pete. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.840 Pete's over at the Athletic. He does a great job 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.639 keeping track of the Irish or read him all the time, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.760 and he actually, as luck would have it, you know, 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.120 like this week where we're having news breaking, important news breaking. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.040 Right before we hit record, right before I connect it 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.799 up with Pete, he drops an article a one on 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.880 one interview he did with Brian Kelly, so we had 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.280 a chance to get into that talk about some of 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.720 the scheduling conundrum, stuff going on with Notre Dame, and 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.880 more specifically the internet memes about Notre Dame being canceled 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.280 this coming fall semester. So we'll get into all that 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.120 and much much more in the meantime. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.280 Daniel, it is good to hear your voice. I hope 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:47.080 all this well. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.480 Thank you so much for hopping on with me to 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.799 help lay the groundwork for the show with Pete. If 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.880 you like the show, don't forget to subscribe. You can 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.040 find us out there on Apple Podcasts, on Google Podcasts, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.160 and of course on Spotify. There are also plenty of 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.240 other ways that you can get in touch and follow 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:10.280 along with our madness. Chief among those is our Instagram feed, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.840 as well as Twitter and Facebook, as well as soliverble 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:19.200 dot reddit dot com that's our subreddit. 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It's just going to be the newsletter 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.440 of intent pending some you know, some things on our 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:48.640 end that we're still working through. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:54.880 And also we should mention if if you think Tai 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.160 is a good guy, you're you're totally wrong. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:58.040 He's a great guy. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.760 If you send him one hundred dollars, he's going to 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.880 send you back two hundred dollars via bitcoin. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.960 Is that correct? That's exactly correct? 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.040 Is that what happened yesterday? I was traveling and I 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.720 saw that Twitter was shut down or not Twitter, but 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.240 I guess confirmed verified accounts because they were hacked and 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.520 asked people to send them bitcoin. Is that what happened? 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:16.320 That is what happened. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.719 Yeah, Oh god, the world's ending. Okay, the world is ending. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.160 It's possible. It is possible. It's always possible. Don' want 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.320 to rule anything out? Shall we get to news I 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:29.000 would love to. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:39.839 Break? I guess it's not so breaking news yes time. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.440 Oh god, not that voice again, davorit. It killed me, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.039 killed me on the last show. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:46.120 Okay. 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:52.599 The NCAA has issued extended guidelines to help navigate the 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:57.480 return to fall sports amid the pandemic. The guidelines released 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:04.839 on Thursday, testing strategies for all athletics activities including preseason, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.800 regular season, and postseason, along with daily self health checks, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.560 the use of phase coverings, and social distancing during training, competition, 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:19.359 and outside of athletics. Mark Emmert releases that document, but 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.279 at the same time acknowledges that the virus is trending 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.600 in the wrong direction. Some of the data points we've seen, 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:30.080 especially in some of our most football crazed states, they're 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.680 having a hard time with it right now. So nice 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.480 of the NCAA to send this out. No doubt, there 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:36.800 are still many challenges ahead. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.600 Yeah, we've talked about the fact that they're just we 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.200 need to get as close to universal protocols as possible, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.360 be it on the conference level, be it on some 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:51.320 sort of Power five agreement level FBS agreement level NCAA 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:56.080 which does not necessarily govern competition with FBS football. Rather 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:00.279 than enforce some basic rules, there needs to be some 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:05.680 sort of protocol guidance. The problem, as always is nobody 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.440 fully knows what's best. So it's good that the nc 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.640 DOUBLEA is sort of figuring out the best they can do, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.200 and the best that they can think of that makes 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.039 sense for their member institutions. But at the same time, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.840 everything needs to be taken with a bit of a 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.680 shrug because every day we learn more and have to 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:29.120 adjust to different things. So good to hear. I remain 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:34.400 confident that this season is not going to be anything 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.680 if at all. If it happens, but it's not gonna 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.840 be anything like we're used to. If it's even attempted. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.920 There will be a huge quirk, as we said time 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:46.839 and again, and furthermore, if and when this system changes, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.920 at least if it's you know, if only for one season, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.039 It's not going to be the NCUBLEA that decides to 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.840 change it. It's going to be the member institutions. It's 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.880 going to be the challenges that local municipalities are facing. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.000 It's going to be driven by local, state and our 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.440 leadership at the federal level. That's what it's going to 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.440 amount to. So a lot remains to be seen. It 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.320 is nice, as you said, that they took the step, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:15.760 but I think there are huge challenges ahead. I did 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.680 see that the AAC, the American Athletic Conference, they're going 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.240 to require mandatory coronavirus testing for all football teams at 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.720 least seventy two hours before each game. They also announced 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.280 that on Thursday you go on to read the article 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.200 here their commissioner basically saying, we know this is coming. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:34.680 We want to try and get out in front of 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.120 the power five before maybe they make similar announcements. We 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.040 sort of want to be on the level and establish 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.920 that protocol. The protocol, as we'll talk about in my 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.640 interview with Pete a little bit later, and as we've 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.600 alluded to time and again on this show, that protocol. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:54.080 The closer we can get to some standardized version of that, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:55.920 there's never going to be a bubble like there is 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.200 in the NBA in college football, but if we can 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:03.160 get some standard guys protocol related to testing, that would 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.480 that that would solve at least a long way some 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:06.120 of the problem. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.320 Right, sure? 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.200 Can I can I put you totally on the spot 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.800 for a question that you there is no right answer 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.480 that you're definitely not gonna be able to answer correctly, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.520 but I'm still gonna ask it, please, Okay. One of 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.640 the terms you mentioned was it's not going to come 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.920 down to like the NCAA mandating yes or no. It's 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.440 going to be sort of a member institution than conference. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.120 It's going to be on a bunch of different levels 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.520 that that's going to affect change. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:28.840 Is there a. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.240 Specific school or a level of school in terms of 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.120 college football hierarchy if that matters, or importance or cachet whatever. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.160 Is there a school that if they say, we're just 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.439 not doing this, like we had the Ivy League, we 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.000 had the Patriot League. I know you're gonna mention that. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.440 I think it's the MEAC, the Mid Eastern Athletic Conference. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.520 We've had conferences sort of cancel fall sports and say, well, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.079 see what happens in the spring. We'll see what the 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.960 world looks like in the spring. Is there a level 0:08:55.040 --> 0:09:00.680 of school that's that if they say, you know, this 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.440 testing that we're doing, it's just not enough. We're not 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:07.560 getting good results. We're not putting our student athletes, you know, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.800 at risk because we know we can't really control things 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.040 to a level that we can. Is it is it 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.439 Texas saying it? Or Georgia saying or Alabama or USC 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.440 is it? You know if a is it Houston? Is 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.920 it Memphis? Is it Boise State? If Boise State says 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.120 this ain't it? This just ain't it we're not it's 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.839 not worth the risk. What level of school carries that 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:36.080 weight that you're going to see immediate dominoes across the sport. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.680 Well, Benny, what's interesting about this is that I think 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.480 there's both a trickle down and trickle up effect. We 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.120 talked about the trickle up effect with the IVY League, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.280 and as the IVY League made some of its announcements, 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.400 as Nicole and Bruce and others at the Athletic wisely 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.280 noted there there were dominoes that fell after that IVY 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:57.079 League announcement. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.400 So one thing that we brought up in the. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.840 Interview, and we'll talk about this more with with Pete 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.400 Sampson again from the Athletic, But. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.440 That's dominoes of non conference dominoes a non conference, but 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.800 just dominoes in general. Right for sure. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.480 You know, Pete and I talk about the size of 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.439 Notre Dame and Notre Dame by comparisons a small school. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.200 If they can't do it, clearly they are a notable institution, 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.480 a blue blood institution, and if they're unable to get 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:27.040 it controlled within their smaller space, that that could be 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.520 a harbinger of things to come for bigger schools. Totally 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.240 to your direct question, though, I think if an Ohio 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.320 state or Texas rule it out, that's a big deal. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.120 Those are very very rich athletic. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.960 Because they have but they have the resources, is what 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.040 you're saying. They have the resources, yeah, right to enact 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.240 harsh safety protocols. They can basically afford to do whatever 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.120 they want. And if they can't get it under control 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.600 at bigger state institutions, that's a problem. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.839 That's a problem. I think that would be the worst 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.480 sign that this is not going to go off, either 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.160 in the fall or in the spring whenever. I you know, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.319 I don't know, but certainly a school of that magnitude 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.079 that has deep pockets, if they can't pull it off, 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.880 there's a real problem. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:14.959 What about And I know that they're sort of in 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.960 the news as well. The American Conference, the AAC says, 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:23.640 we don't have a unifying confidence that we can get 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.800 things together to keep our kids safe enough. We know 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.840 we're going to take an enormous financial hit, but morally 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.320 we just we can't do it. We just can't do it. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.280 And you know, all the ads and whoever else presidents 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.120 of these schools all agree. What does that do you 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.200 don't have a correct answer, because nobody does. But do 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.160 you think that it obviously has to carry significantly more 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.440 weight than the IVY or Patriot League share Patriot League, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.240 who we love. I think it's probably inevitable at this point. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:51.679 I think they're trying to put it off as long 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.200 as they can m M. And I do think it 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.240 would have an effect. These are more games that teams 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:04.440 who haven't already called off non conference games can't play, right, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.880 So eventually you run out of teams. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.120 Yeah, and if the challenges are just too great to overcome, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.480 and if you're stuck playing your own conference, not always 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:16.000 bad thing. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.839 Stuck Wow. I don't know who that comment was directed at. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:25.960 Okay, but LIKECC, that's a significant challenge, especially if you 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.559 have schools within your conference that may be unable to 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.840 field a team for one reason or another. So I 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.640 just for sure the pool of available teams is growing 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:39.800 shallow we'er by the second and the more announcements that 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.280 come out. Now the AAC is not there yet, they 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.800 could get there soon. For now, it's just a mandatory 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.480 seventy two hour testing protocol. But now I think each 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.080 one of these contributes and eventually will probably get to 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.600 a point where someone serves as a strawbreaking the Campbell's back. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:58.800 Yeah. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.120 Oh man, I can't even Oh, I can't even imagine 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.080 what sort of that that scenario playing out looks like. 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.520 You know, I'm thinking about college football teams in a 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.760 bubble like what the NBA MLS to a lesser degree, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.840 MLB is doing. Yeah, how much it must cost to 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.240 put one hundred, one hundred and twenty one hundred and 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.200 fifty people in a bubble, even if they're a few 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.280 read different regional bubbles. The NBA is spending what one 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.160 hundred and fifty million or something crazy like that in Orlando, 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.600 and there they have positive tests and complications things like that. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.560 I couldn't even imagine what it would cost to do 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.280 that with football, and I don't I don't know. Does 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.520 the NFL's not doing that right? No, they're just already 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.320 hoping for the best. That's their best mechanism. Yeah, I 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.680 there's just there's no good answer. As much as member 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.000 institutions and the NCAA and conferences are trying, I feel 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.360 for them, and I feel for you Ti. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.720 Thanks. Yeah. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.600 The Mid Eastern Athletic Conference has suspended all fall sports 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.160 indefinitely because of the pandemic. They have yet to determine 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.760 whether or not they're going to try and move the 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.360 season to the twenty twenty one spring semester. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:10.360 That's the MEAC. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.360 That's teams like North Carolina A and T. Bethune, Cookman 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.880 Florida A, and M. Howard Morgan State. There's a whole 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.160 bunch of historically black institutions part of the BAX, So 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.240 hopefully they get to play football at some point in 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.200 the academic year. Would love to see them play in 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.760 the spring if at all possible, but for now they've 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.040 made the decision that not going to try and give 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:33.760 it a go in the fall. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.720 Yeah, always crazy bum to hear about things like this, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.920 but glad they're enough out in front of this that 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:45.080 hopefully they're figuring out contingency plans for a potential delayed 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:50.320 season in late winter spring with with safety protocols in place. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.480 If the world and the country isn't a better place. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.680 Other news here, Dan, Perhaps we should have expected this, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:02.920 but the NCAA has ruled that Bowl eligibility for this 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:07.200 season only can be a little bit different. They approved 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.680 a blanket waiver request for only this season. It allows 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.080 all FBS teams to count two games, count them one 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:21.920 two against FCS opponents that average at least eighty percent 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.840 of the maximum amount of football scholarships during a two 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:26.360 year periods. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:27.560 There's a lot of words there. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.760 All you need to know is that previously they only 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:36.120 allowed FBS teams to count one game against an FCS opponent, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:40.640 and that opponent had to average ninety percent of the 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.560 maximum allowable football scholarships during a two year span. So again, 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:49.560 more words, but one versus two and eighty percent versus 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:50.200 ninety percent. 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:51.240 All I need to know. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:58.680 I'm not right now in mid July anticipating a twenty 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.360 twenty Mayo Bowl. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.600 I'm not the male bull takes the brunt man. They 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.440 are taking the brunt here on this show. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.440 Well for a season, hopeful for some sort of season 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.040 whatever it looks like. Not anticipating a male Bowl. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:18.680 Finally, the Senate Judiciary Committee going to hold a hearing 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:25.000 on Wednesday to focus on integrity of college sports and athletes. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:30.000 Nil rights, nil of course standing for a name, image, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:31.440 and likeness. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:32.440 It's been in the news. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.560 We haven't had a lot to talk about around that topic, 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.880 simply because the news has been so inundated with coronavirus 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.040 and pandemic stuff. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:43.640 But this is a big deal. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:44.960 This is a huge. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.560 Red blinking light staring down the NCAA, staring down college 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.520 athletics as we know it. At some point we'll probably 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.640 put a show together and talk a lot more about 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.880 it with people who actually know the subject matter through 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.640 and through. But for the time being, this is definitely 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.399 going to get some prominence on the federal level. It 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.959 will not be the last that you hear of it, 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.119 as some states like Florida and California have already passed 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.800 legislation that would allow college athletes to profit off of 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.360 their likeness as early as next summer in some cases. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:21.000 So keep your eyes on this subject. It is not 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:22.480 going away, and it's a big deal. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:23.480 Ty. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.120 I just have a few words for any student athlete 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:32.480 potentially trying to monetize his or her name, image, or likeness, 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:37.159 and that is stay away from our sweet, sweet bombus 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:38.000 sock cash. 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.720 Those are all ours, all hours, All the socks belong 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:42.240 to us. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.560 Don't you touch it. Don't touch it. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.480 That's all we got for news today. We'll be back 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:52.320 again next week and talk about anything that happens over 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.760 the weekend. If there is anything pertinent, please feel free 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.679 again to send it to us out there on email 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.320 soliverble at email dot com, or any one of the 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.880 social channels I mentioned at the top of the show. Okay, 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.120 So I did an interview while you were in transit 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.320 yesterday with our good friend Pete Sampson. As I said 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.840 at the top, he had just conducted an interview with 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.040 Brian Kelly. Really good interview with Brian Kelly covered a 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.359 lot of ground. It was good to catch up and 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.359 talk Notre Dame. How Notre Dame fits into this current 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:28.120 jigsaw puzzle we find ourselves in trying to understand how 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.520 college football may work this fall and beyond. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.600 And you counted down all of your favorite Notre Dame 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:34.720 playoff touchdowns, right. 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:35.360 I did all of them. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.480 Okay, oh, I can't wait. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.000 All right, joining us now. 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.080 It's been a while since we talked to him, but 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.800 always a pleasure to welcome back Pete Sampson, the Notre 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.200 Dame beat writer for the Athletic. Back to the show, 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:50.680 mister Sampson, how you doing. 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.399 I'm doing great, Like everyone else, just sort of hoping 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.159 and praying the college football actually happens. 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.119 What's your level of confidence that it does happen. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:05.480 This fall? Really low? This fall? Yeah? Yeah, I think 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.440 that it's going to be a spring season. And you know, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.480 I understand if you're a head coach that you're not 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.080 talking up that possibility. I mean, you may say, yeah, 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.240 we can make it work, but if you've got a 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.480 roster that's training and working out, I don't think your 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.640 first move is going to be like, yeah, guys, let's 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.959 keep working hard. So we played this game in March, 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.800 so you know, I get that, and I get if 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.880 you're an ad you're not pushing for it. But man, 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.879 it just you read sort of the Peak Family column 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.959 from earlier this week, and that's it just seems like 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.159 it once you get people to tell the truth, it 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:43.560 gets pretty dark pretty fast. 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.080 We've seen this very pessimistic shift in mindset over the 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.600 last couple of weeks. And you know, like just a 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:53.000 month ago, Dan and I were game planning how we 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.840 were going to do our conference previews this year, and 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:56.880 now I'm not sure if we're going to. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:57.199 Do them at all. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.800 I don't don't we don't know if it makes any 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.680 danse to do them. I know you talked to Brian 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.760 Kelly earlier today, and we'll get into that, I'm sure, 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:08.760 But I know you also talked to a lot of 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.359 folks around the Notre Dame program in college football, just 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.400 being at the athletic But like, are you detecting any 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.480 kind of optimistic swing in the other direction. 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.760 I haven't heard it. And I think it's interesting because 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:23.720 if you look at Notre Dame, and Notre Dame's not 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.359 alone in this, but they've done about two hundred and 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.040 fifty COVID nineteen tests and they've had one positive. Like, 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.600 if that was this, if that was sort of the 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.880 normal everywhere, I think we'd have college football for sure. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.640 But it's not. And that doesn't even get to students 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.560 getting it back on campus and what that's going to 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:44.600 look like. So I everyone that sort of talks to 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:49.320 you on background you feel that pessimism. There's a little 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.240 bit more optimism when people are on the record and 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.720 have their name attached to the quote. But I do 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.040 think that there's a movement. Brian Kelly, I touched on 0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.560 this with him when I talked to him, is just 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.520 like season, how would it work? And he talked about 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.600 how in the ACC it's like Dave class and a 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.080