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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in Hope.

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Speaker 2: You had a.

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Speaker 1: Spectacular, spectacular weekend. All the boys are here. The great

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer you heard him on radio yesterday. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about what he saw from his Hawks Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Jay Still who liked me a Charger fan, so hey,

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Speaker 1: we were want to know and in a division play

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Speaker 1: and off for the rest of the weekend and getting

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Speaker 1: all healed up. That stuff was great. And then of

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Speaker 1: course you got your boy here who Now I get

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Speaker 1: two teams, and both teams will want to know, and

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Speaker 1: so is my fantasy team. That's all want to know

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Speaker 1: as well. So we're all we're all good. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to the Bills come back against the Ravens in a second.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the Lions getting dismembered and dismantled by

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Speaker 1: the Packers in a second.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I.

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Speaker 1: Do need to pat myself on the back. Chase two

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Speaker 1: and Dan Byer. We've been together long enough that you

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Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago, there was this Herbert

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Speaker 1: versus Tua thing, right, Herbert versus Tua. Now it was

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Speaker 1: mainly mainly Emmanuel Acho and others calling out Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: as what was it? A social media quarterback, a social

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Speaker 1: media sensation. And the idea wasn't that he was on

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Speaker 1: social media, is that social media likes him more than

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Speaker 1: the reality of who he is quarterback. And the thing was, hey,

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Speaker 1: Tua Tua is really the better quarterback. And not only

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Speaker 1: did I believe that was laughable at the time, they

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Speaker 1: actually played against each other on Monday Night football. I

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Speaker 1: went to that game with my son and I came

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Speaker 1: back and I think also as steven A called out

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Speaker 1: that game and Tyreek Hill made two unbelievable plays in

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Speaker 1: the first half. Otherwise it's non competitive, was mostly a

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Speaker 1: non competitive game. And the takeaway, very very simply was,

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Speaker 1: if you think those two players are anywhere in the

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Speaker 1: same solar system, you haven't actually watched football. You haven't

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Speaker 1: actually watched football. So knowing that, understanding that if you've

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Speaker 1: now watched Week one, and I don't want most opinions

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Speaker 1: have to be willing to evolve or change. Because if

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Speaker 1: there's one thing we've learned about early season NFL, it's

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Speaker 1: whatever you saw this weekend, very very Normally, half the

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Speaker 1: teams will look completely different week two, sometimes for the better, sometimes.

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Speaker 2: For the worse.

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Speaker 1: But we do have I believe enough data to tell

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Speaker 1: you that I think McDaniel's going to get fired this year.

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Speaker 1: He was my wasn't he my first pick? Jay Stu

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Speaker 1: on our hot seat list last week? By the way,

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Speaker 1: congratulations to Jason Stewart. He gave you the j Stue

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Speaker 1: team parlay. They both hit over the weekend. So on

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Speaker 1: Fridays listen to Jay Stu both of his hit this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Mike McDaniel my pick? I believe that was my pick?

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Speaker 4: Byer would know? Byer does the games remember this?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had the shortest odds. I know

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Speaker 2: you want to take the victory lapdug, but it was

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Speaker 2: two to one that McDaniel was the first coach to

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Speaker 1: There anybody in this room that would now take Tua over?

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, I don't think that it's been that way

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, but now it's like there's just

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Speaker 1: that's it, and they they've tried to put him in

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Speaker 1: the perfect situation, and that perfect situation continues to be

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Speaker 1: less perfect because you can only provide so much space

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Speaker 1: for everybody kind of figures it out. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: be a tough year for him as they're trying to

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Speaker 1: that away. Hill is frustrated, and Tua doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: it on his own. Herbert does, Okay, let's get to

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Speaker 1: the last nights, come back byer. What time do you

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Speaker 1: click off for the radio on a Sunday. It's five

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Speaker 1: and do you settle in and watch the game right away?

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Speaker 1: You connect with Berdy Lisa right away, like what's your

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Speaker 2: I get home, I brought food home, and then I

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Speaker 2: watching something on TV right Okay.

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Speaker 1: Was there ever a point where you're like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: The entire thing? No, I watch the entire thing. It's

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Speaker 2: one of the advantages you have on being the West

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Speaker 1: So I was on the West Coast, Okay. I was

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Speaker 1: to go, they were down with fifteen points. I was

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Speaker 1: the touchdown to give him forty was like, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all not even pay attention anymore. That's literally what happened.

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Speaker 1: And then I get back last night and I look

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even know what happened. So

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Speaker 1: I had to go back and watch. And there's a

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Speaker 1: long day, a long weekend of watching a ton of football.

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Speaker 1: Here here's Josh Allen. He had a message to fans

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Speaker 1: that left the stadium early.

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Speaker 3: Our team didn't quit.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think there's people that left the stadium

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Speaker 6: that's okay, We'll be fine, but have some fate next time.

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Speaker 1: Here's Josh Allen on how they came back and won.

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Speaker 6: They took everybody there. I'm just proud of our team

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Speaker 6: for staying in it. No one on the sideline blinked.

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Speaker 6: I mean, down fifteen points whenever we were with five

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Speaker 6: sixty minutes. And that's that's a really good offit that

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Speaker 6: we just played. And you know, God willing we take

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Speaker 6: care of business how we're supposed to and how we

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Speaker 6: think we will. You know, it's probably a team we'll

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Speaker 6: see again. So you know they're they're a greatly coached team.

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Speaker 6: Hats off to them for having a really good game plan.

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Speaker 6: But you know, gotta were stuck in there, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It's a

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Speaker 1: little counterintuitive that a team that can run the football

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Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry, can run the football with Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: can give up that level of lead, right, because the

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Speaker 1: old adage you have a lead, well, that's a running team.

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Speaker 1: They know what they're doing and they just run it

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Speaker 1: down your throat and they have two incredible options.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Arguably, or maybe inarguably, the greatest running quarterback of all

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Speaker 1: time in Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry has been, if

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Speaker 1: not the best running back in the league. In any

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Speaker 1: conversation of the best running back in the league, what

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Speaker 1: five last five to seven years? Okay, so you have

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Speaker 1: those two, a good offensive line, the other team's got

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Speaker 1: to be tie. Our defense been on the field a

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Speaker 1: bunch games should be over. I didn't know this until

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Speaker 1: after the comeback and win that John Harball his teams

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Speaker 1: had suffered more comebacks than any other coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Here's Harball on what happened.

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Speaker 7: Are you disappointing. We're just gonna have to regroup and

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Speaker 7: get ready to go play a long season. We've got

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Speaker 7: sixteen games in front of us, good football team, tough environment. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: we did many good things, but we didn't play well

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Speaker 7: at the end. Two big situations. The fourth down play,

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's kind of a play that you don't

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Speaker 7: lucky play, but they made it between the scrambles. Josh

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Speaker 7: Allen played a great game obviously, especially at the end

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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter to make those plays. Scramble plays,

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Speaker 7: extended extended completions, and then a couple of big pass plays.

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Speaker 7: So that's it. We're disappointed, but we'll be We'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think there's there's a couple different

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Speaker 1: punted on the next possession. Five plays and they punted.

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Speaker 1: But then it was the Ravens who ran the ball,

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Speaker 1: But what leads to every comeback in baseball. Every comeback

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Speaker 1: in baseball feels the same leadoff, walk right. Every comeback

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Speaker 1: of threes and a couple of turnovers, a couple of

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Speaker 1: especially a fumble, is almost always what leads to these comebacks.

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Speaker 1: And of all guys, it's a Derrick Henry, a running

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Speaker 8: far as the offense, you just got to ask you

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Speaker 8: you and he didn't do as well. You know, you

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Speaker 1: Now, now, look, there's a miracle fourth down catch, right,

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Speaker 1: that also happens. I mean, think of think of Brady

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl down twenty eight to three.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: What leads to it? Turnovers and oh yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 1: a fumble, yes that changed everything in the game, but

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Speaker 1: the Ravens had two other possessions where three and out

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Speaker 2: You gotta keep.

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Speaker 1: Playing, right, And I'm not being critical of Harbaugh. Look,

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Speaker 1: you feel that, and the NFL, it's almost always a turnover.

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Speaker 1: Doug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great day, maybe the greatest

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Speaker 1: Could be Ryan, You're just like your Debbie Downer.

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Speaker 1: What I need great, and that's not what I need.

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Speaker 4: At Jason Stewart as it's spelled ew yep.

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Speaker 1: At Jason Stewart. Okay, and you can include me at

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Speaker 2: With Bill's Mafia. Fair, Absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like going to Manhattan and not going in

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Speaker 1: They need to be shown the greatest third night experience

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Speaker 9: What did you love?

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Speaker 9: And what did you hate?

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Speaker 2: Meet these player haters?

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Speaker 1: What'd you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. It was quite the experience

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Speaker 2: to the we parked on the golf course. We were

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Speaker 2: actually close to the clubhouse, so we didn't have far

436
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Speaker 2: to walk. And yeah, just I mean a little bit,

437
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Speaker 2: but when you have eighty thousand people, a little bit

438
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Speaker 2: of a delay to get out. But it wasn't it

439
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Speaker 2: wasn't a headache at all.

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Speaker 4: Good for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it worked out well.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So Aaron Rodgers I mentioned last week, it's a

443
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Speaker 4: story that I'm following the closest this season. I'm interested

444
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Speaker 4: to see how he does. He beat the Jets at

445
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Speaker 4: the Jets. I wasn't very interested in this revenge angle.

446
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Speaker 4: I don't think there's enough. There wasn't enough time spent

447
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Speaker 4: there for there to be a major revenge. I do

448
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Speaker 4: know that there was that reported incident or exchange between

449
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Speaker 4: him and the Jets new head coach where Aaron Rodgers

450
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Speaker 4: flew across the country only to be told we don't

451
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Speaker 4: need you. He addressed it after the game last night.

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Speaker 10: You spoke about the meeting with Alan Glenn on McAfee

453
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Speaker 10: a few months ago.

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Speaker 6: Beating him is the significance in that sense, he basically

455
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Speaker 6: told you to your face that he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't think you were right for that team.

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Speaker 10: Yes, that's what he did, so there are significance in

458
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Speaker 10: beating him. For you, I was happy to beat everybody

459
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Speaker 10: associated with the Jets. It was nice to win, especially,

460
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Speaker 10: you know, hearing some of the cat calls out there

461
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Speaker 10: and the boobirds. You know, I don't I'm not sensitive

462
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Speaker 10: about that. I expected that, you know, I kind of

463
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Speaker 10: liked that. But there were probably people in the organization

464
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Speaker 10: I didn't think I could play anymore, So it was

465
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Speaker 10: nice to remind those people that I still can.

466
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Speaker 4: Four touchdowns, no intercept. The Steelers won on a Boswell

467
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Speaker 4: I want to say, what sixty year old sixty yard

468
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Speaker 4: field goal. It was a very entertaining game to watch

469
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Speaker 4: for a couple of reasons, but one of them was

470
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Speaker 4: the old man won and I'm rooting for him, so

471
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Speaker 4: it was great to say. I love saying that.

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Speaker 3: What were the other reasons?

473
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Speaker 4: Because Justin Fields looked great and I wish I had

474
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Speaker 4: Justin Fields on my fantasy team. He's fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean that was interesting. Also, huge fumble

476
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Speaker 1: and special teams in the Jets. Gigantic fumble and special

477
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Speaker 1: teams of the Jets. Ryan, what you.

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Speaker 11: Got well, anything to do with the Boston area. I

479
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Speaker 11: despise Doug So me being a Raiders fan who's still

480
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Speaker 11: upset over the Tuck rule, it made me grin from

481
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Speaker 11: ear to ear that my Raiders beat the Patriots. I

482
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Speaker 11: don't like Josh McDaniels. I don't know why he keeps

483
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Speaker 11: getting job opportunities. He sucks. And I just love the

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Speaker 11: fact that Pete Carroll, seventy plus years old, they go

485
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Speaker 11: into New England and they beat the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: That's what I love.

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Speaker 8: Raid Raid is, raid is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good Win. I'll I'll tell you what

489
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Speaker 1: I loved was the green back Packers looked like a

490
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Speaker 1: champion team. They just did and was the offense lights out?

491
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Speaker 1: Like no, like Detroit is still good. Detroit seems to

492
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Speaker 1: lack whatever that special something they had had. And we'll

493
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Speaker 1: like like we're being fair. Week one is hard. New coordinator,

494
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Speaker 1: some some different pieces from last year, but Micah Parsons

495
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Speaker 1: did not play a ton of snaps and they still

496
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Speaker 1: dominated the Lions. Now, if you can start out to

497
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Speaker 1: and oh at home Lie and Commanders on Thursday night,

498
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Speaker 1: now you're cooking. Now you're cooking. And for the most part,

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Speaker 1: I think they had one possible injury going to yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But the Packers it just felt and looked different. Maybe

501
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Speaker 1: it was that the Lions weren't ready, maybe that the

502
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Speaker 1: Lions it hadn't played enough in the new system. But

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it was there's just an

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Speaker 1: energy to this Packers team, which feels like Super Bowl energy.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, because I've been following the Chargers

506
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Speaker 1: for so long. I haven't seen super Bowl energy felt

507
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Speaker 1: that way. All right, let's get to what we hated

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Speaker 1: from the weekend. A resident hater although that we have

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Speaker 1: two with you and Ryan, but let's start with you, Jaysuo.

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Speaker 4: So since Sam isn't here today, I feel kind of

511
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Speaker 4: compelled to sam up my hate because three things I

512
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: really hated this weekend, I couldn't stand them. But I

513
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Speaker 4: won't do it. I won't Sam it up, but I

514
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Speaker 4: will mention that. I won't mention that Pat Mahomes acting

515
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Speaker 4: like he's going out of bounds and then laying a

516
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Speaker 4: blow on our cornerback with the Chargers. I thought that

517
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Speaker 4: was Bush league. And the Kara Swisher Elizabeth Warren look

518
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 4: alike who stole the ball from the ten year old

519
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Speaker 4: kid on Saturday night that I hated too for many

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Speaker 4: reasons we'll get into in the podcast. Okay, but something

521
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Speaker 4: that happened Saturday night, that's a new woe. And I

522
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Speaker 4: know Dan Byer I already nobody's going to say to this. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 4: it's really easy to complain. You're in first place, you're

524
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Speaker 4: the defending world champions, you'll probably win the division for

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Speaker 4: the next ten years. But this Dodgers team has been

526
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Speaker 4: particularly annoying, has been particularly frustrating, and it reached a

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Speaker 4: new woe on Saturday night. Our pitcher was throwing a

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Speaker 4: no hitter, two outs in the ninth inning, two outs,

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Speaker 4: one out away from a no hitter for Yamamoto. Your

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Speaker 4: guy Jackson Holiday ruined that hits a solo home run

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Speaker 4: to make it three to one. So we're like, okay, cool,

532
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Speaker 4: three to one, we still got the game. No, No,

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Speaker 4: let's bring in Blake Trinan double hit a guy walk walk,

534
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Speaker 4: so it's three to two, bases loaded, and they bring

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Speaker 4: in our guy, Tanner Scott, and the only thing that

536
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: guy's good at is giving away leads, single up the middle.

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Speaker 4: Dodgers lose. This is not becoming of a championship team.

538
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Speaker 4: Something's broken. They seemingly fixed everything in one weekend with

539
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Speaker 4: the Padres and have been a broken team around that weekend.

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Speaker 4: I can't put my finger on it. I hate that.

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Speaker 1: I just for perspective. I was talking to Matt during

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Speaker 1: the first inning after Jackson flied out deep in the

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Speaker 1: first inning, and because Matt went with work with Jackson

544
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Speaker 1: when they're in San Diego, and since you've seen his numbers,

545
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Speaker 1: and he was talking about how like it's just very

546
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Speaker 1: normal for a hitter, this is what happens in your

547
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Speaker 1: first real full season the Bigs, whatever. And then to

548
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Speaker 1: see that reward with that home run was huge. They

549
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Speaker 1: hit the home run and I stopped paying attention again,

550
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Speaker 1: and then they comeback win. That was I knew you

551
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Speaker 1: were going to right give me yours that you hated.

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Speaker 11: Uh, Philly, Karen, just because what blew my mind is, uh,

553
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Speaker 11: You're in Philly and no one checked her. I mean,

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Speaker 11: it's not like you're you're in some classy place.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was in Florida. Yeah, they were just

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Speaker 2: a lot of Phillys.

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Speaker 11: Even worse, you're in Florida, a lot of crazy people

558
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Speaker 11: out there, and no one checked her.

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Speaker 1: Really, what do you mean checked her?

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Speaker 4: She took the ball from a kid.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean she was so entitled.

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Speaker 11: Exactly, someone needed to go over there and check her.

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Speaker 11: And and and no one said anything that it booter.

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Speaker 1: I actually think the dad was the one who's is

565
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Speaker 1: he's just got it like no, no, if here's the rule, okay,

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Speaker 1: the rule is the ball's hit at you. You don't

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Speaker 1: catch the ball, it's fair game, right and and and

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Speaker 1: I will also point out I am not the guy

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Speaker 1: if you sit in a place that might get to

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Speaker 1: get and you want to bring a glove to a game,

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Speaker 1: it's literally the only time in sports I would allow it.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, those things come off a rockets like you

573
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Speaker 1: got to if you want to. But if you drop

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Speaker 1: the ball like sorry, and then yes, in the hierarchy

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Speaker 1: of who gets the ball first, kids before women before men, right,

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Speaker 1: And the only thing that can usurp all of those

577
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Speaker 1: is if you served in the military. Wait, I forgot

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Speaker 1: hold on kids, elderly women, men right, And again military

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Speaker 1: probably ahead of both, but the military guys will almost

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Speaker 1: all give it to the kids, elderly women.

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Speaker 4: There it seems like the in sports, a fly ball

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Speaker 4: at a major I'm sorry, a foul ball or a

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Speaker 4: home run at a major league baseball field is like

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Speaker 4: one of the last things that's like, it's survival of

585
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Speaker 4: the fittest. It's a meritocracy. If you get the ball,

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Speaker 4: you earn the ball. And then you add the fact

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Speaker 4: that it's the guy's tenth are the kid's tenth birthday

588
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Speaker 4: that he was giving the ball to. Everything worked out

589
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: fine because Harrison Bader, the guy who hit the omron,

590
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Speaker 4: met the kid afterwards and gave him a ball on

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Speaker 4: a bat and signed it and everything. And our girl,

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Speaker 4: Karen was I guess doxed, and it was reported that

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Speaker 4: she lost her job. I don't think any of that's true,

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Speaker 4: but anyways, yeah, that was amazing. Brought it up.

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Speaker 1: I get something I hated. Sorry, sorry, Dan, I'll get

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Speaker 1: you next. It wasn't that Oklahoma State got beat. It

597
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Speaker 1: wasn't even that they got beat sixty nine to three.

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Speaker 1: That's part of it. Two parts to it. First, I

599
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Speaker 1: hate the you get embarrassed like that, the lack of reality.

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Speaker 1: But you've got a fire Gundy Day's passed. But like,

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Speaker 1: this is a whole new world for them. They've never

602
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Speaker 1: spent money and now they're spending money. And I think

603
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Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious they didn't spend money terribly wisely, and

604
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: they had a backup quarterback and this is what happens, right,

605
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Speaker 1: But this is the downside to the portal era. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they had like fifteen practices before they played a game.

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Speaker 1: Now they played two games, so you're talking like twenty

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Speaker 1: practices in. There was no fight at all. They laid down,

609
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: they got their absolute asses handed to them, and did

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Speaker 1: not fight for one another. And what's that because because

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Speaker 1: they didn't go there because they give a crap about

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. They went there because they gave a crap

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Speaker 1: about a paycheck. Okay, if you haven't figured out what's

614
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Speaker 1: ruining college sports, and look, we sucked last year, I

615
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Speaker 1: can't put a pretty picture on four and twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: I just can't. I know our kids fought with everything

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Speaker 1: they had, and they stuck together, and they played for

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Speaker 1: one another, and they played for the school. It's not perfectky,

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Speaker 1: but I can tell you that they fought. And the

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Speaker 1: problem with what's changed in college athletics is, in order

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Speaker 1: to get it going, you gotta go out and pay

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Speaker 1: money to players. And if you pay money to the

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Speaker 1: wrong guys, you get a bunch of turns, and that

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Speaker 1: it doesn't show its head in a game when you're winning.

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Speaker 1: It's when you're losing, Like why fight? Like I'm still

626
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Speaker 1: getting paid, I don't care. Like these aren't my guys.

627
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Speaker 1: I've been here a couple of weeks. Go play somewhere

628
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Speaker 1: else next year. That mentality sucks, And like, look, do

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Speaker 1: I think Oregon ran it up?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: But Oregon taking special Glee you're better. I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know Landings. There's a little dB in there that

633
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Speaker 1: he's a really good coach. They're an awesome team. Aughtson's

634
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Speaker 1: an amazing place. But like, dude, when you're two ex

635
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Speaker 1: to spending, that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer, what do you got? I don't want to

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Speaker 2: follow that. I think that's a perfect way to end

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Speaker 2: love and hate.

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Speaker 1: and of course last year with the Las Vegas Raiders.

649
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Speaker 1: Kind of to spend some time with us every week

650
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Speaker 1: here on the show. Okay, first, let me just get

651
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Speaker 1: to the actual performance in the game. We did get

652
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Speaker 1: the chance to see Flacco look good. Dylan Gabriel came in,

653
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Speaker 1: Chador struggled. We saw Snoop Huntley before he got before

654
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Speaker 1: he got released. What was your assessment of how the

655
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Speaker 1: two rookie quarterbacks for the Browns play.

656
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Speaker 5: Well? I agree with you. Dylan Gabriel looked looked good

657
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 5: for the second game in the row. He just he

658
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: can move the team. He makes quick decisions, he gets

659
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 5: the ball out of his hand quickly. He's got a

660
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: pretty good zip for a smaller quarterback. He's got good

661
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Speaker 5: arm strength, which you don't see all the time with

662
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Speaker 5: a smaller quarterback. But he looked similar to what he

663
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Speaker 5: looked in college. And that was a positive. And Shador,

664
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Speaker 5: you know, didn't have his best day. He played much

665
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Speaker 5: better that the two games before. You know there and

666
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Speaker 5: and I can see I think part of this developmental

667
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 5: process with him was not putting him out there for

668
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: that two minutes thrial, just because some of the body

669
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Speaker 5: language coming off the field after two tough series just

670
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: wasn't what you'd expect. If you don't want your quarterback

671
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 5: to just walk off the field with his head down.

672
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Speaker 5: There there's there's gonna be adversity, you know, down to

673
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Speaker 5: down series the series. You have to handle that as

674
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Speaker 5: a quarterback. So on the outst looking in, I was

675
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 5: wondering if this was Kevin Stephan just saying, hey, look

676
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Speaker 5: this this is a teaching moment for you as far

677
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Speaker 5: as how you handle the lows on the field, and

678
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 5: we're gonna let Snoop take this last drive. But I

679
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 5: think you can tell by the way it lined up.

680
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Speaker 5: Obviously Slack was the starter Dylan Gabriel. He was drafted

681
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Speaker 5: above should or for a reason. They must have had

682
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Speaker 5: him ranked higher, and he didn't show anything in the

683
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Speaker 5: preseason that would lead you to believe that he would

684
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Speaker 5: drop in the Dutch chart. So you're looking at him

685
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Speaker 5: as the two. I guess is a three? Can you

686
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Speaker 5: take us the wild card? I don't know how he

687
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 5: fits in there right now because he just didn't play

688
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 5: a lot in the preseason. Is either two, is either three?

689
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Speaker 5: Is someone they move that remains to be seen before Tuesday.

690
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I state I am not

691
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Speaker 1: putting it out there. I'll tell you my own feelings

692
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Speaker 1: in a second. I have seen other people and now

693
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Speaker 1: there are more former players than anything. Saying Stefanski is

694
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: basically sabotaging shadoor right put him out there with Lineman

695
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: he was going to cut and didn't let him be

696
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Speaker 1: the hero and play the two minutes drow which every

697
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Speaker 1: quarterback dreams of.

698
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Speaker 3: Is there any scenario where that's a possibility.

699
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Speaker 5: Maybe great for sports talk radio, but not in reality. No,

700
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Speaker 5: that's not absolutely not. I mean he's, first of all,

701
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 5: he's a very good head coach that has a good

702
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 5: track record on the offensive side of the ball. He

703
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: knows what he's looking at. He's also in a situation

704
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 5: where he has four quarterbacks he's trying to get a

705
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: really good look at. I know you don't need as

706
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 5: much look at Joe Flaccob, you still want to make

707
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: sure you know where he is performance level is. So

708
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 5: he had a tough challenge going into training camp. They

709
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: get four quarterbacks enough reps, not like to show what

710
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: they can do, but to help them develop. So he

711
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 5: knows what he's doing, and yeah, no, he's not out

712
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: there sabotaging anything. It's just you only get so many series,

713
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 5: and I do think he's just trying to teach these guys.

714
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Speaker 5: And he had a rough series, had a rough couple

715
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: of series there, he has some great series. You know,

716
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: in the first preseason game, you're going to have up

717
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: and downs as a rookie quarterback. That's just part of

718
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: life and part of life and professional football is learning

719
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: how to deal with that, because when you're the quarterback,

720
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: not only does everybody not the fans and media looking

721
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 5: at you, your teammates are looking at you. So you know,

722
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: just you don't want to see your quarterback just walking

723
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: off the field after a series or walking off with

724
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 5: his head down. That I think he was more a

725
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 5: teaching moment than anything else.

726
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Does all of this noise surrounding should Dour.

727
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: Does.

728
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Speaker 1: Does this make it if the Browns thing doesn't work?

729
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Does it make it less likely somebody else picks him up?

730
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 5: That's a good point, just because I want to say no,

731
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 5: But then you know, he was also drafted in the

732
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Speaker 5: fifth round. I think some of that was just due

733
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 5: to the noise people were worried about coming in. But

734
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 5: the bottom line is he has starter talent in the NFL.

735
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 5: Is he ready for prime time? Probably not ready quite yet,

736
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: but he has starter talent. He's got good enough arm strength,

737
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: He's got good feel in the pocket that I get

738
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 5: some time more on the inconsistent level, but he can

739
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 5: feel a rush, he can get the ball out of

740
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 5: his hands, and he's relatively accurate. So he has some

741
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 5: skills there. He's put a lot of staffs in college football,

742
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 5: but he has to adapt to the NFL game. It's

743
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 5: going to take some time. Certainly somebody would give an

744
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: opportunity somewhere else. How many teams would, I'm not sure,

745
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: just because what I said, like he was drafted in

746
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: the fifth round when really his talent level said he

747
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 5: should have gone higher. So the probably some teams to

748
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 5: maybe skirt off by that. I think the smarter teams

749
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: see a potential potential starter down the road. Maybe not

750
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 5: right now, but down the road. It's something you have

751
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 5: to take a look at.

752
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Speaker 3: Is Anthony Richardson done in Indy?

753
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's had plenty of opportunities there. They

754
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: say he's not, and I do believe them. They've been

755
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: loyal to their players. They've been loyal to him and

756
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 5: give them opportunities. But he may be a situation that

757
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 5: other first round pick quarterbacks have fallen into, just like

758
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones with the Giants. He may kneed a change

759
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 5: of scenery. That's never a bad thing, and that could

760
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: come up. And if you look how Daniel Jones handed

761
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: his process, he handled it really well. We've released during

762
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Speaker 5: the season from the Giants. It just didn't work out.

763
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Speaker 5: You know, a lot of options at that point, including me.

764
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 5: I was trying to sign on to come to the

765
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 5: active roster with the Raiders so he'd give us another

766
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 5: option as a starting quarterback. And he decided to sign

767
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 5: on the practice squad with the Vikings to kind of rehabilitate,

768
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: learn a little bit from Kevin O'Connell, kind of get

769
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 5: his kind of settle his career down a little bit,

770
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: and then be a free agent at the end of

771
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 5: the year and pick where to go to go compete

772
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 5: for a job. He took the right spot with the Colts,

773
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 5: competed for a job, and won the job. So Richardson

774
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 5: could be in that same boat eventually. But I do

775
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 5: believe it when they say that he'll get another opportunity there.

776
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 5: He's got a lot of talent. His ceiling's really high.

777
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 5: It's just the consistency level, it's just really low right now.

778
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 5: And it's no different than what he showed in college.

779
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: There were high, very high high and low lows, and

780
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: you're seeing the same thing at this level. And there

781
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 5: are also injuries at the college level, so you're seeing

782
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: a lot of the same things. But I think he'll

783
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 5: get another opportunity there to show what he can do,

784
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 5: and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes this year.

785
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: With Daniel Jones, we don't know how he's going to play.

786
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: He's gonna be the Daniel Jones of dables first year

787
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 5: or the last couple of years. He's also had some injury,

788
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: so there's a good chance at some point Richardson plays again.

789
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Speaker 1: Stet Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the

790
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: voice of Tom to LESCo. Of course, longtime jet manager

791
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: of the La Chargers last year jail manager of the

792
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders, H Terry McLaurin. That deal finally gets done,

793
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: Was there anything numbers wise that was so alarming that

794
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: it should have taken this log.

795
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 5: I guess we'll find out down the road. I mean

796
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: up to ninety six million. It could mean a lot

797
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 5: of different things, so we'll see when the numbers come in.

798
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 5: My guess is when it's all said and done, he'll

799
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: be right in that top ten range. Not necessarily the

800
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: top five, but top ten, which I think is a

801
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: good spot. You'll get a nice deserved raise. Was it

802
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: worth to hold in I don't know. I don't know

803
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 5: how the negotiations for it back and forth, but he's

804
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: gets a pretty good raise and he's got two weeks

805
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: to get ready to play. That's the only thing I'm

806
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: concerned about as a receiver, and because he didn't have

807
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 5: a full off season program he was rehabbing an ankle

808
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: injury and then no training camp. Receivers obviously the high

809
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 5: volume running position, and you know how many staffs will

810
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: he be able to play opening day? I mean, certainly

811
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: in conditioning shape. It's just a difference between conditioning shape

812
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 5: and football shape. But I'm really glad it got done.

813
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 5: This was the point where, in the same thing with

814
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: the Hendrickson deal, they need to get done now to

815
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: get ready for opening day. But there's some deadlines coming

816
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 5: up the kind and they kind of spur that, but

817
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: I think the numbers are kind of come in where

818
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 5: we expected, which be right around at top ten Toms.

819
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Speaker 1: Let's go our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

820
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio.

821
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Speaker 3: What do you do with Micah Parsons?

822
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: Like, it's one thing to ask to be traded and

823
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: go through all this sort of thing like laying down

824
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: on the massage table during a game, just generally acting

825
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: like an ass right, Like, what what do you do there?

826
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: If you're in charge of the Cowboys? How do you

827
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: how do you handle that?

828
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: This is this is real theater, you know, from the

829
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 5: outside looking, and it's a totally different than the McLaurin

830
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 5: and Hendrickson holdout. Yeah, the laying the table not the

831
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 5: look you're looking for. Whether you're laying on the table

832
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 5: for thirty seconds or thirty minutes, it's just not the

833
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: look you're looking for. First off, They're just you have

834
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: to have communication between yourself and the agent. And I

835
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 5: just think in this situation, until the agent is part

836
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 5: of the process, I just don't see the deal getting done.

837
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: And I know every team does it different ways. I

838
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 5: know the Cowboys have done in different ways, but in

839
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: this situation, until there's direct communications and negotiations with the agent,

840
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 5: I just don't see anything getting done. Now. The big

841
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 5: thing is we move into to cut the fifty three

842
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 5: and get ready for opening day. You know, if you're

843
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: holding out and you're not there and you don't play

844
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 5: in the game, obviously you wouldn't make your your base

845
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 5: salaries for that week. But if you're holding in, you're

846
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: on the active roster, and if you don't play in

847
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 5: the game, then the club would still owe you and

848
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 5: his you know, for him, it'd be over a million dollars,

849
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 5: to be one point three million dollars for that game.

850
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: I see no way the Cowboys are going to pay

851
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: one point three million to not play in the game.

852
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 5: So something has to break here, whether it's to get

853
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 5: the deal done or it's there's conduct detrimental for refusing

854
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 5: to play, and then you can either you can find

855
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 5: the player, you can suspend him. Something's going to have

856
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: to happen because he's on the active roster. He's due

857
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 5: to be paid week one right now, even though he's

858
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: not going to play. So I'd be shocked in the

859
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 5: next seven days if there wasn't some movement one way

860
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: or another. But it has to start with communication on

861
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 5: both sides, and you know more so on the Cowboys side.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like it.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: How far away is Jackson dart.

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Speaker 5: Well. I'm a big Jackson Dark fan. From the draft

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Speaker 5: and then watching the preseason that I haven't changed my mind.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he could go in and play

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Speaker 5: right now at what level he would take some lumps.

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Speaker 5: I mean just it's natural as a rookie quarterback. But

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Speaker 5: I think he could play right now. But it's also

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Speaker 5: not a bad thing that he hits and waits. I

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Speaker 5: mean it's different for every quarterback. It's different for every situation.

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Speaker 5: I think Brian Dable definitely he's going to pick the

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Speaker 5: quarterback they can that he feels right now has give

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Speaker 5: him the best chance to win opening day. He feels like,

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Speaker 5: right now it's Russell Wilson. But I think at the

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Speaker 5: time comes, whether it's September, October, November, December, I think

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Speaker 5: Jack's won't be ready to go. I'm ready to play.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford starting to like, how do you handle that?

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Speaker 1: Where you just you have no idea. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess you got Garoppolo, who's you led a team to

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? But how do you handle that in

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Speaker 1: terms of how much you invest in Stafford in real time?

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Speaker 1: Like obviously I'm not talking contractually, but what what how

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Speaker 1: do you how do you handle the Stafford thinking?

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Speaker 5: For the Rams, Well, it's literally going to be day

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Speaker 5: by day, and it sounds like it's getting better day

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Speaker 5: by day. But as a lot of us know with

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Speaker 5: back injuries and that if it has effected your nerves,

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Speaker 5: you know, sometimes the rehab process and the strength it

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Speaker 5: comes very slowly, and so they have to kind of

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Speaker 5: gradually start moving them in. But you have to also

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Speaker 5: have a plan B with with Garoppolo in case Stafford

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Speaker 5: is not ready to play. So probably in practice with

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Speaker 5: your ones, probably the backup quarterback Garoppolo in this case,

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Speaker 5: you'll probably take more snaps than he usually would to

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Speaker 5: get him ready in case he has to play, which

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Speaker 5: is completely fine because Staffer probably you probably don't want

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Speaker 5: to have him take every snap right now in practice.

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Speaker 5: So they've got thirteen fourteen days ago before opening day,

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Speaker 5: still have some time. But essentially, if you're the coach,

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Speaker 5: you know you really have to get two quarterbacks ready

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Speaker 5: to play, since just you know back range back injuries

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Speaker 5: are unpredictable. I know he has missed very he hasn't

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Speaker 5: missed very much time in his career, but he's had

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Speaker 5: back injuries in the past. And you know, the older

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Speaker 5: you get, it doesn't get better. So don't have a

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Speaker 5: plan for both. But in practice you're certainly going to work.

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Speaker 5: Both quarterbacks are good amount.

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Speaker 1: He's the one only tom te LESCo. Of course, what

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Speaker 1: does he know. He's only been in professional football his

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Speaker 1: entire professional life and been a gentle manager for twelve

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Speaker 1: years in the National Football League. Last thing, Tommy, do

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Speaker 1: you like this system where it's basically like one big

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Speaker 1: cutdown or did you like the old system better?

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Speaker 5: So I like this better because he gives every player

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Speaker 5: a chance to compete for a job. The only hard

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Speaker 5: part about it was just administratively releasing thirty seven players

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Speaker 5: over a day or two. It's just a lot of work.

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Speaker 5: You want to spend enough time with each player on

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Speaker 5: his way out, just as a courtesy to talk to

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Speaker 5: him about what he did about career options moving forward.

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Speaker 5: That sort of things. You want to make sure you

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Speaker 5: take the right time. The head coach to physician coaches.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of time involved. But I like the

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Speaker 5: one cut because because everybody get a chance to show

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Speaker 5: what they can do for the certainly for the third

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Speaker 5: preseason game, you have a really good chance to play

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Speaker 5: your young guys. If you're tea that doesn't want to

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Speaker 5: play their starters. It gives you enough players to play

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Speaker 5: the third preseason game and give every player, especially college

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Speaker 5: for agents that when you sign a mask for the draft,

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Speaker 5: part of the recruiting process is we're going to give

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Speaker 5: you the whole offseason program. We're gonna give you all

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Speaker 5: training camp in three preseason games to show us what

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Speaker 5: you can do. And guys need that, and so I

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Speaker 5: like this. It's just administratively over a two day span.

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Speaker 5: It's just a lot of players to let go of.

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Speaker 5: Now you know roughly half will come back on practice squads. Sure,

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Speaker 5: but no, it's a process. It's not fun really from

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Speaker 5: players obviously, but the process itself of building that initial

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Speaker 5: fifty three is a very enjoyable process.

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Speaker 1: He's time to LESCo. He's built the original fifty three

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Speaker 1: as the gentleman as a gentle manager for twelve twelve

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Speaker 1: different years and just love having you love soaking up

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Speaker 1: that knowledge. Tom, thanks so much for joining us. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk next week, all right, it sounds good.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.