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Speaker 1: you're a legendary comedian. I feel like comedy has been
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Speaker 1: to say the ship that we can't say right, right right,
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Speaker 1: no light in right. Where do you feel like the
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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan controversy that's been happening in the last couple
Speaker 1: It was interesting they gave him a hard time, but
Speaker 1: it goes to show you how they are really behind
Speaker 1: him and they really respect him, you know, because it
Speaker 1: was anybody else, even a step underneath him, it had
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Speaker 1: kind of looked at as like someone who's helped a
Speaker 1: lot of comedians with his platform over the years. Quite
Speaker 1: sure he has. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: get on Joe Rogan this year, but you can't miss
Speaker 1: him because his name is everywhere, even before the word
Speaker 1: in that let it in. In the COVID situation, I
Speaker 1: just believe unless you're a doctor, I think it should
Speaker 1: stay away from COVID issues. I mean, the tape is
Speaker 1: the tape. But the tape is the tape. Why isn't
Speaker 1: it the tape used against this person When you have
Speaker 1: the tape. Hearsay different story, but there's tape, But you
Speaker 1: have tape, you see it, So is there any it
Speaker 1: can't be good for you one person, not good for
Speaker 1: the other person, right, do you think, like, because my
Speaker 1: thing is is like, do you think you know? I
Speaker 1: think that Me and James talked about this just in
Speaker 1: general and of use to the N word is out
Speaker 1: if you're not a black person. Yeah, absolutely, it's a
Speaker 1: cold right black people, we could use it. There's certain
Speaker 1: like comedians, you could use it around your friends, but
Speaker 1: not too well Like there's like certain guys like Louis
Speaker 1: c k who's used it, especially right in front of
Speaker 1: Chris Rock that one time on the HBO thing. Is
Speaker 1: there any sort of like rule with the comedian shiit? Like?
Speaker 1: Does comedy leave it wide open if there's a certain
Speaker 1: context involved, you think because I say nig all the time,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you you can say that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: say nig all the time, but believe it or not.
Speaker 1: When I get off stage, I don't use forfanity at
Speaker 1: all at all, at all. I don't curse at all
Speaker 1: when I'm off stage. I slowed down a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, I don't do I don't do no
Speaker 1: profanity whatsoever. So the N word is based on your audience.
Speaker 1: The N word is based around who you're around. The
Speaker 1: in word is based on you feeling comfortable saying it.
Speaker 1: And like I said, and everything is about choices in
Speaker 1: common sense of Truthly, some black people don't even sound
Speaker 1: right saying it because in the area you just hear
Speaker 1: a nigga even who said that, and it's a black dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's definitely true. So we live in a strange time.
Speaker 1: You know, the world changed. That's why Bill Cosy got
Speaker 1: caught up, right, the world changed. It was like he
Speaker 1: committed the crime today, the world changed. Still happened to
Speaker 1: be still alive and got caught up in the BS, right,
Speaker 1: so it comes. You know, they said you're going to
Speaker 1: hire for so long were caught up with him. Do
Speaker 1: you think someone like Joe Rgan should be canceled quote
Speaker 1: unquote canceled? He should be canceled, But because he didn't
Speaker 1: get canceled, you look like a fool saying he should
Speaker 1: get canceled. When he stood the storm, right, what's my man?
Speaker 1: The Rock? Yeah, that was against him because everybody thought
Speaker 1: everyone came after the Rock, and then the Rock retracted
Speaker 1: his stands. So he did retract. He attracted well because
Speaker 1: originally he had posted in support of him. Right, But
Speaker 1: then I'm saying he did he retracted after the last one. No,
Speaker 1: he retracted. I think his support for Joey right right right.
Speaker 1: The tweet out pretty much saying just like, hey, now
Speaker 1: I know the full narrative right right right, And it
Speaker 1: still doesn't take away from because there's a tape there.
Speaker 1: Yes see, I see they could say that. See if
Speaker 1: there wasn't a tape again, this conversation would be different.
Speaker 1: Then you could say, oh, he's not Racis, but you
Speaker 1: saw the tape. So even though, even even though we
Speaker 1: have a tendency to overreact, society overreacts online, especially nowadays,
Speaker 1: especially nowadays, we overreact and Joe is a nice of course,
Speaker 1: sure he's not known, but I'm cousse sure it's an overreaction.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the tape. Everything I'm hearing talk about
Speaker 1: right now is just really hearsay. But I do know
Speaker 1: there was a tape, and I just want the tape
Speaker 1: to be consistent with everybody. Right. If if I saw
Speaker 1: you doing something on the tape, that's the tape, like,
Speaker 1: it can't be good for you, but then somebody else
Speaker 1: happens it's not good for you. I think that's wrong
Speaker 1: that's fair. That's just a general rule for it, just
Speaker 1: a general rule. It has to be fair for everybody.
Speaker 1: But we know, even in my act, I teach people
Speaker 1: not to be children. Know you ever walk in the
Speaker 1: room and someone gives you a bigger can and say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's the black community, because when whites do something, they say, oh,
Speaker 1: he didn't get the same case, et cetera. Right, But
Speaker 1: I tell people the time that if you read the
Speaker 1: law library and if you're in jail, if a black
Speaker 1: man and white man is arrested, it states in the
Speaker 1: book that a white man can't get the same charge
Speaker 1: as a black man. I mean that's something we've obviously
Speaker 1: just seen. Right, Yeah, is deep, but well I try
Speaker 1: to teach people that's the way to the world. Right.
Speaker 1: And like even when they talk about racism, say, I
Speaker 1: believe racism will always exist. I think people can't get along, right,
Speaker 1: but we can respect each other. See there's a difference.
Speaker 1: I mean, we may like each other, but still going
Speaker 1: to be If people start saying it's in racism, we're
Speaker 1: never going to end that. That's impossible because it's very unrealistic.
Speaker 1: It's unrealistic. But we can respect each other I can
Speaker 1: respect you, you can do that. See, so they need
Speaker 1: to change it to we're going to respect each other,
Speaker 1: then say let's end racism. I think it changes the
Speaker 1: whole game. Yeah, I think ending racism is a great thought,
Speaker 1: right right, sounds like when there's so many variables, so
Speaker 1: many where you where you might be raised, you were
Speaker 1: raised around no matter what, everyone has a certain amount
Speaker 1: of prejudice that is even subconscious. Yes, right, they're just
Speaker 1: sitting there. But that doesn't mean that like your hate.
Speaker 1: Like I think everyone has a certain amount of a
Speaker 1: subconscious stereotype about people, yes, or prejudice about people. Like
Speaker 1: you said, it's a matter of respect. It's a matter
Speaker 1: of like are you a hateful person? Are you? And
Speaker 1: see you can still be hateful. That's how powerful respect is.
Speaker 1: Respect is so powerful that I can still I can
Speaker 1: hate the fuck out you, but I respect you so
Speaker 1: much you know. See. I mean that happens a lot
Speaker 1: in prison. Listen between between the races, like you got
Speaker 1: you gotta respect. Like if we was talking in jail
Speaker 1: and somebody came up and interrupt us without saying excuse
Speaker 1: me or waiting their turn, you have a problem. I
Speaker 1: apply those same rules to lifary. It's not like I've
Speaker 1: gone to prison for a long time. The rule is,
Speaker 1: I'm so into respect. But when you're in this world
Speaker 1: today and me being much older i have because of wisdom,
Speaker 1: I kind of have to change my thought a little,
Speaker 1: because I'll always be in an argument, like I don't
Speaker 1: believe you should be up close to me when we're
Speaker 1: in line. Of course, I believe you should have that space.
Speaker 1: And that's prior to COVID. By the way, prior to COVID.
Speaker 1: Give me some give me three So what I used
Speaker 1: to do when I see somebody too close, I will
Speaker 1: always take my backpack and throw it on my shoulder,
Speaker 1: hit him by accident. I'm sorry, Yeah, get the obviously
Speaker 1: for real, Like I'm for real with that ship right,
Speaker 1: Give me three feet? Yeah, like why are you up
Speaker 1: on me? Oh? I'll tell a person a female, she's
Speaker 1: too close, or get me a pay a bill. So
Speaker 1: you're getting close. We we're gonna be in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Step the fuck back. There's nothing wrong with so my
Speaker 1: way of thinking is so manly and respectful and so traditional,
Speaker 1: but the world is not like that. I'm angry every
Speaker 1: day and I have to keep it to myself. I'm
Speaker 1: angry every day. Now, let that ship out. Man. No,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, you can't do that. She's
Speaker 1: gonna end up on you can't. You can't. They're gonna
Speaker 1: try to cancel him. You gotta learn get the best.
Speaker 1: What I'm learning is bite my tongue a little bit.
Speaker 1: Everybody feels like everybody wants to be this quote quote leader, right,
Speaker 1: and you can't save the world. You cannot save the
Speaker 1: world the world, that's fact. You got to save your peace, though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta save your peace. You can take you can
Speaker 1: teach your close children around you, but you can't save
Speaker 1: the world. You talked about, just you're more of a
Speaker 1: traditional guy, right, And it feels like in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two there's been kind of like a campaign against being
Speaker 1: a traditional guy. Oh yes, sir, right, Oh my god. See,
Speaker 1: because in actualality, I should be off the market, right see,
Speaker 1: I should be kind of retired, I should be married.
Speaker 1: But because of the way I think I sound old
Speaker 1: fashioned to the world. If I talk it to a
Speaker 1: young ladyb I give her my opinion on life, they
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Speaker 1: I had a comment the other day where I told
Speaker 1: on the air that men should twenty five thousand in
Speaker 1: their account before they start fucking, before they start dating.
Speaker 1: Well uneducated, And I'm gonna say exactly the uneducated people
Speaker 1: was hitting me in my DM tell about you ugly,
Speaker 1: motherfucker you just because you ugly, A young nigga who
Speaker 1: ain't got no money could be fucking all day. These
Speaker 1: are the stories I'm getting. Watch what I'm going They
Speaker 1: missed the whole point. They missed the whole motherfucking point.
Speaker 1: Nig I'm a player. I'll never give a bitch twenty
Speaker 1: five a thousand dollars. What I'm telling people is have
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Speaker 1: the people who's gonna listen to this, let me give
Speaker 1: you some gang, some good gang. See when your money right,
Speaker 1: your choices of hos is different. See when you're broken
Speaker 1: and you fuck with Taco bell type bitches. See when
Speaker 1: you ain't got your money right, you fuck with motherfucker
Speaker 1: hot old Wiener sistle type bitches. But when your money
Speaker 1: is right, your choices is different. You move different, your
Speaker 1: options and your option everything is fucking different. So to
Speaker 1: all the people who was listening and commenting on the
Speaker 1: set that I sat on the Births Club. I wasn't
Speaker 1: offended by it. It showed me how uneducated the world is.
Speaker 1: I'll never tell any man to give a money to
Speaker 1: a female. What I'm saying is stop fucking broke and
Speaker 1: nothing in bitches and babies. You can't afford babies, come
Speaker 1: out here shooting and killing everybody that you can't take
Speaker 1: care of the child. You see you over you totally
Speaker 1: overlook what the fuck I was saying. Excuse me for
Speaker 1: I really want them to understand what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: you're dumb. I'm gonna say you're dumb. Motherfuckers who raised you,
Speaker 1: Like I'm for real with that ship, Like it's you
Speaker 1: nothing in the bitch and your money ain't right? Girl,
Speaker 1: come back pregnant. Now you're gonna blame her that she
Speaker 1: got pregnant. Money ain't right. You can't take care of
Speaker 1: a kid, can't put a kid in daycare, can't even
Speaker 1: pay for the abortion, can't even pay for the abortion.
Speaker 1: But because you think you're handsome, you can nothing the bitch,
Speaker 1: because you ain't got twenty five I've had, motherfuckers, I
Speaker 1: got five thousand dollars and I fuck just like you
Speaker 1: rich guys missing the point. That's a more ego egotistical
Speaker 1: way of looking at it, a child like that's like
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old's perspective, Like when I'm out here
Speaker 1: fucking bitches exactly the point exactly. But when I was
Speaker 1: giving them game, that's real games and real ship with money. Right,
Speaker 1: Because you won't be a nine percent of time, you
Speaker 1: won't be a liar. Also, twenty five thousand not gonna
Speaker 1: say this said you won't be a liar. Watch what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Most men lie because they ain't got no money,
Speaker 1: say lie the bits to pretend to be something that
Speaker 1: they not. But your money, right, you still could be
Speaker 1: fucked up in hat exactly. But guess what I rather
Speaker 1: for men have money than to be egotistical with money.
Speaker 1: I read a man be egotistic with money than not
Speaker 1: to have money, is what I mean. Because when you
Speaker 1: don't have money, you got low self esteem. You're a liar.
Speaker 1: I'd rather for a man to be a little cocky
Speaker 1: because I hate weak men. I hate wine. There's a
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Speaker 1: Know the time, So a bitch give you supposed to
Speaker 1: because she feels sorry for you, not because you gave
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Speaker 1: let me paused for a second, check out her character
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Speaker 1: what kind of vocabulary of this year? Is she soft
Speaker 1: when I talk to her? Or do I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a man? They just got a fat
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Speaker 1: want a woman who's soft. You're on the phone talking
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, She's gonna sound nothing like
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Speaker 1: The bitch was fine than the motherfucker after the show,
Speaker 1: but Voca, she thought she was a dude. We was
Speaker 1: at the bar right after party and she was cursing.
Speaker 1: I said, yo, baby, no mind, you curse a little
Speaker 1: too much. This is what she said. Oh you don't
Speaker 1: know who I am. People, You just talking like a nigga,
Speaker 1: like her turf. It got so bad, like I had
Speaker 1: to lead because somehow there was a misunderstanding that it
Speaker 1: was like we was about to go to war. Wow,
Speaker 1: I had to leave. The other night, I did a
Speaker 1: show at the Stress Factory in Jersey and it was
Speaker 1: just a misunderstanding. Came in. The ladies were acting crazy
Speaker 1: and I couldn't see because the lightnse of mine. I said, okay, holes, okay, hose,
Speaker 1: you know, being funny, but they took it too serious.
Speaker 1: But there was a female who was the alpha male.
Speaker 1: She controlled the energy of the other females. So when
Speaker 1: she felt disrespected. They all ever else felt disrespected. Even
Speaker 1: after the show, we were talking. That conversation was getting
Speaker 1: a little heated because she this is someone in the crowd,
Speaker 1: or she was acting like a dude. She had men qualities.
Speaker 1: So I said, you a gang member. I had accident.
Speaker 1: She got offended, but bitch, I meant what I said,
Speaker 1: because you acting like a man. So when I when
Speaker 1: she left, all the ladies in us was cool. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: come back tomorrow because I think this went off the
Speaker 1: wrong way. To make sure you'll get ticked tomorrow. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take it. But they didn't come. And being on
Speaker 1: this earth long enough, I know is because the female
Speaker 1: who thought she was a man still felt offended. Maybe
Speaker 1: she identified as a man. Listen to me. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been around so long that I know this young
Speaker 1: lady felt like she was a due or she got
Speaker 1: men quality. She gonna hung around men so long that
Speaker 1: she done picked up their ways. And that's another they had.
Speaker 1: We talk about men dressing like women or acting like women,
Speaker 1: but we got women who are still women who pick
Speaker 1: up the behavior of men. They mindset, the way they move.
Speaker 1: It's like a man. There's nothing feminine about it except
Speaker 1: the makeup, the eyelashers. But they move like a dude,
Speaker 1: they think like a dude, and then they wonder why
Speaker 1: they get cheated on. They wonder why they can't keep
Speaker 1: a relationship because, don't get me wrong, a man a
Speaker 1: nutting you all day. We got a fat ass. You cute,
Speaker 1: But baby, are you soft? I don't feel the softness,
Speaker 1: you know, even the rolling up a blunt you know
Speaker 1: now people do this today. I just think the women
Speaker 1: who roll backward better than me is a lot. I
Speaker 1: run into them often, yes, yes, yes to me, And
Speaker 1: because I'm older, I think is wrong. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the way you young, you young men move today. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just against it me right. I think
Speaker 1: that it's a generational thing too, because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of women in like that are being raised in
Speaker 1: this generation by younger people, are are raised in a
Speaker 1: very uh hustler mind state. Everything's kind of like a
Speaker 1: come up if we think I'm not gonna do it
Speaker 1: rolling weed. No, I just mean in terms of, like,
Speaker 1: you know, at least even when I do, when I
Speaker 1: when I DJ gigs or like just some of the
Speaker 1: people who I'm around, like I'm like a lot of
Speaker 1: women are, like you said, they have that mentality that
Speaker 1: when we were growing up we had. But their mentality
Speaker 1: is like how can I hit a lick on this dude,
Speaker 1: or how can I you know, only fans just pop
Speaker 1: in like women are like very much. You mean, hustle soars,
Speaker 1: getting money, getting money off. Still we talk about two
Speaker 1: different things. Yeah, hustling personality is two different things. Fair enough,
Speaker 1: Hustling is hustling. You know, I'm not against a woman
Speaker 1: hustling because you still can be a lady and hustle.
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta act like a dude to hustle. You
Speaker 1: ain't gotta have your pants sag, you ain't gotta talk
Speaker 1: reckless to still hustle. Just gotta know all the hustle. Right,
Speaker 1: if a woman saging her pants, she might just be
Speaker 1: a lesbian, right, But I'm just using I'm just using
Speaker 1: an example, like you still can have a dress on
Speaker 1: and be a hustler for sure, Right, he still could be.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the softness of a woman. Now,
Speaker 1: this is gonna go with a lot of people say
Speaker 1: its sometimes he's sexist and all this, and I might
Speaker 1: be it's because I'm in my sixties. The way you
Speaker 1: look great, black, I just take care of my six
Speaker 1: years old man. Yeah, oh yeah, you know you're fucking great,
Speaker 1: so forty years old. Yeah, So that's my thing too.
Speaker 1: People think I look young, but I'm I'm in my sixties.
Speaker 1: Perspective is a little different. It's a little different. So
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I respect. I'm smart enough to
Speaker 1: know that my way of thinking is probably old, and
Speaker 1: it is what it is, right, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: deal with that. And I know I can't change the world.
Speaker 1: So I'm man enough to laid back and almost throw
Speaker 1: my cape on because I have my time right, I had.
Speaker 1: I lived my life, and all I can do is
Speaker 1: put the gems out there for some people to graphs on.
Speaker 1: Because you still can take what I've talked about and
Speaker 1: apply it to your life. You still can take a
Speaker 1: young lady and still make a soft and still know
Speaker 1: she could still hustle, still know that she could still
Speaker 1: do great things as a woman instead of being with
Speaker 1: a man and act like you don't want a man
Speaker 1: to feel like he's with another man. Well, this is
Speaker 1: also your perspective. So for people who get their panties
Speaker 1: in a bunch. It's like, yo, you're speaking your truth. Yes,
Speaker 1: but we know how that is. Like, it's crazy how
Speaker 1: people don't respect another person's opinion, right, But that first
Speaker 1: thing you said was like you respect them, like you
Speaker 1: sit back. You know, you're sixty and you you think
Speaker 1: the way you think, you understand people think, right, So
Speaker 1: that's a good way to think, because some people get
Speaker 1: upset when they see this, Oh my god, five just
Speaker 1: going crazy, or what a bunch of dudes is doing
Speaker 1: playing Pokemon. Like it's just like why that Just have
Speaker 1: that perspective of I understand that you think definitely in
Speaker 1: this y yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to be smart
Speaker 1: enough to understand, so I understand. You know. I just
Speaker 1: want to share it to the world. Just my my
Speaker 1: take and perspective on these things. That's all that's fair.
Speaker 1: And I think there is something to be said about
Speaker 1: why certain ways. I know a lot of women that
Speaker 1: are single in their thirties because they conducted themselves a
Speaker 1: certain way throughout all of their twenties, yes, and now
Speaker 1: they're just kind of bitter, right, right. I think that's
Speaker 1: why people kind of love Kevin Samuel so much, right,
Speaker 1: because he kind of holds everyone over the fire right
Speaker 1: and even on the other end of the spectrum. So
Speaker 1: we're not being sexist here. Like you said about the
Speaker 1: men having twenty five grand before they start fucking. Imagine,
Speaker 1: you're twenty years old and you got no money to
Speaker 1: your name, and all of your effort and anything you
Speaker 1: apply yourself to is just getting pussy. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: broke for the rest of your life. Oh here's the
Speaker 1: thing that's good, and what you're saying is right. So
Speaker 1: here's the answer to that. Just like when you're young
Speaker 1: ambits to buy a car, your ambitsus to buy a house.
Speaker 1: I want men to be ambittionous to save money, not
Speaker 1: to get to the female. Say let me stack my money.
Speaker 1: So i'm right before I go to the female, because
Speaker 1: when your confidence got a little bit changed, Like I said,
Speaker 1: your choices of women is different and based on generation, right,
Speaker 1: based on parents. Parents should teach their kids, hey, start
Speaker 1: stacking your money, start doing this, Start doing this when
Speaker 1: they're really a young person, because most parents work to
Speaker 1: their child's eighteen. Say hey, you're on your own, gotta
Speaker 1: get a job. Figured it out, and you figure it
Speaker 1: out at eighteen. When you mind you had eighteen years
Speaker 1: to really prepare for me to have something. When I
Speaker 1: walk out this door, you left your mind. You got
Speaker 1: me at zero. So from eighteen now I gotta catch
Speaker 1: up with life. But we had eighteen years. Like, could
Speaker 1: you imagine somebody to put one hundred twenty a month
Speaker 1: and something for eighteen years? Or your child like when
Speaker 1: they get eighteen, you have something to put in their hand,
Speaker 1: But most of us are at zero at eighteen or
Speaker 1: even just like kids who you know a lot of
Speaker 1: kids who are fifteen sixteen, Any extra money that they
Speaker 1: get goes to like gaming or like right, some shit,
Speaker 1: it's like yo, just right. So when people hear me,
Speaker 1: it's so unrealistic. But if you get that mindset right,
Speaker 1: start getting it right, you can get your mondy. And
Speaker 1: it's really not for anybody over fourteen, right, It's this
Speaker 1: mindset is for people really young, because those are the
Speaker 1: people who are really listening to me. These are people
Speaker 1: in my DM to my thank you like an uncle, you,
Speaker 1: like a dad that I never had to give a game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pursue this because we don't want young men
Speaker 1: to keep having babies, right, Yeah, I think too, Like
Speaker 1: it's very important to understand that, like, if you're going
Speaker 1: to be successful at anything, energy is very important. Time
Speaker 1: is your biggest carearency that you have, biggest currency you have.
Speaker 1: So if you are going to try to be successful
Speaker 1: in this life and you come out the gate eighteen nineteen,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one years old, and like one of your
Speaker 1: top three priorities is getting laid every weekend, exactly, you're
Speaker 1: running with one leg in this race. And then some
Speaker 1: men shoot themselves in the foot because they have a
Speaker 1: baby two or three and they have five. And that's
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, what you look, what do you
Speaker 1: realistically expect to happen with your life now? Thank right?
Speaker 1: You said you dug your own grade, because most people
Speaker 1: aren't extremely blessed with like an insane talent that transcends right,
Speaker 1: and even if you are, the chances of that actually
Speaker 1: you cutting through so much. Luck is involved, so much,
Speaker 1: so much and so much hard work that you might
Speaker 1: not even have time to put in now because you've
Speaker 1: got to worry about feeding three kids. That's so true.
Speaker 1: What about marriage at a young age? Think it's the
Speaker 1: worst thing in the world, but some people could pull off.
Speaker 1: He pulled it off. I mean, I'm thirty five, so
Speaker 1: you're still young. Yeah, you're still a youngster. But it's
Speaker 1: good for some people because sometimes marrying somebody can motivate
Speaker 1: you because right now you are not married. You're single. Yes,
Speaker 1: you've been married in the past, never be never been married,
Speaker 1: never posed, nothing like that. No, No, that's corny as hell.
Speaker 1: That means, how many children do you have? I have seven?
Speaker 1: How many baby mamas? Seven? Oh so your yeah? Three three, three,
Speaker 1: one night stands, seven children, And I've made love to
Speaker 1: some of the most beautiful women in the world, but
Speaker 1: I netted in the most unsuccessful bitches the world has
Speaker 1: ever seen. Mm hmm, yeah, ain't nothing, ain't none, ain't
Speaker 1: none of my baby mom is rich. So I wish
Speaker 1: one of them could have been my fucking rich. That's
Speaker 1: just a joke. I was gonna laughing. That's some funny shit.
Speaker 1: But no, shout out to my kids' moums. But you know,
Speaker 1: my that life is for me. Like my oldest son
Speaker 1: and he's like Dad, I don't want to be like
Speaker 1: you. You You know, want to have a family. And I said, okay, son,
Speaker 1: well have your own family and have your own motherfucking kids,
Speaker 1: and you could have everybody under one room. The reason
Speaker 1: why I say this on the air is that I
Speaker 1: want people to understand. To avoid depression, you have to
Speaker 1: play the hand that you dealt See. If you play
Speaker 1: your hand and know who you are, you're gonna be happy.
Speaker 1: But when you start looking at somebody else's motherfucking hand,
Speaker 1: or start thinking whoa, whoa, what if? Exactly? Then those
Speaker 1: were the problems come the issues. If you accept the
Speaker 1: hand that's given to you and you just deal with
Speaker 1: it and look forward, and your happiness will be. But
Speaker 1: like you said, when you start pocket watching other people exactly,
Speaker 1: people who you perceive to be your peers, maybe in
Speaker 1: the same field, or you start dwelling too much on
Speaker 1: what could have happened, what should have happened, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna fucking you're done right, And it all goes back
Speaker 1: to germ nature. Like you said earlier, we all get jealous,
Speaker 1: we all get angry. So I tell people to control
Speaker 1: your emotion. It's one of the most If you can
Speaker 1: train yourself over the years to control your emotions, you won.
Speaker 1: That's real. You one. You have one, I swear to God,
Speaker 1: because once you in control, you still get the anger.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, control. You control. That's why I would tell
Speaker 1: people to rest as much as you can the night before,
Speaker 1: because when you're not well rested, you get angry, easier,
Speaker 1: you snap at somebody, you hurt somebody because you didn't
Speaker 1: have proper sleep the night before. So when people say, hey,
Speaker 1: old people go to bed early, you know, I go
Speaker 1: to bed early, but I wake up. I can go
Speaker 1: to bed ten o'clock and still wake up before you,
Speaker 1: and it feel like I sleep all day. You know
Speaker 1: that's because me, I've worked so hard and my whole
Speaker 1: life and got successful that I just enjoy life, like
Speaker 1: I like getting up early and getting to start the
Speaker 1: hold up day because I enjoy it. Well, there's a
Speaker 1: different energy. I feel like when you really finally grow up,
Speaker 1: you stop sleeping until like eleven am right, you start
Speaker 1: waking up before eight. You realize like this is like
Speaker 1: this like your your life. Your day just becomes so
Speaker 1: much more productive because look at what you've made of yourself.
Speaker 1: You look forward doing this. This makes you feel successful.
Speaker 1: Your wife knows where you're going. You feel good about it.
Speaker 1: Even when you talk to someone about what you have,
Speaker 1: you may not realize it, but I'm telling you what
Speaker 1: it sounds like accomplishments. You accomplish on that motivated, you
Speaker 1: own something, you're doing something. And I always tell guys,
Speaker 1: as you get old and you sit down with a woman,
Speaker 1: when you start saying what you've done and what you're
Speaker 1: about to do and not be lying, it makes a
Speaker 1: woman pussy what It makes it interested in you because
Speaker 1: you have accomplishments. And that's what a man should also
Speaker 1: look at the female. Okay, but I see the fat
Speaker 1: ass bad where's your head at? What have you accomplished
Speaker 1: your thirty something? But what have you? Are you a
Speaker 1: real estate agent? Did you graduate from college to your
Speaker 1: own eyelash shop? Do you do? What do your own?
Speaker 1: What are your aspiration? What's your aspirations? It's deep, but
Speaker 1: that's what people should look at. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: motherfucker's man right now telling you is there a bare minimum?
Speaker 1: Because you said, God, should we have twenty five K?
Speaker 1: And it's not really twenty five for a female? No,
Speaker 1: it's really not twenty five K. Is more like, just
Speaker 1: have something. It's just a metaphor. I just take that
Speaker 1: number out. I'm saying for for females now it should
Speaker 1: be the same. But have something, right, you know, like
Speaker 1: a woman should have money not to give to a man, right,
Speaker 1: a woman should have money too that she's with a guy. Really,
Speaker 1: the way I came up with this, if two people
Speaker 1: had money when they meet and it didn't work out,
Speaker 1: guess what the transition is. God's smooking me a place
Speaker 1: you could get smooth. If one person we broke, one's
Speaker 1: gonna try to hold on to the other person, don't
Speaker 1: want to really leave, or you're so fucked up you're
Speaker 1: gonna stay. You gotta stay in the house because you
Speaker 1: guys are both on the lease. Right, You're gonna stay
Speaker 1: in the situation that because financially you don't have another option.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to my mother's, right,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to my brothers. I can't
Speaker 1: go with my sister. I burnt that bridge. So I
Speaker 1: know it's hard to understand what I'm saying. But before
Speaker 1: you even put yourself in that situation, try to get
Speaker 1: the money. But you know what most ninety percent of
Speaker 1: people do. They fuck, get the girl pregnant, and then
Speaker 1: they behind the eight ball. That that's so crazy because
Speaker 1: you everything you said is real shit. But people take
Speaker 1: a little clip and just make it this whole thing
Speaker 1: that you're not saying, Like what you said about twenty five,
Speaker 1: that's some real ass ship. How did a mail bounds
Speaker 1: to me? I mean, how do you feel about clips?
Speaker 1: Like you had an hour interview and everybody judges is
Speaker 1: off the thirty second clip. How does Yeah? I don't care,
Speaker 1: you know, because we got platforms like this context Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's gonna hear the information right and and
Speaker 1: and and take it in. Yeah, somebody's gonna hear it.
Speaker 1: And if people already got their opinion of you there,
Speaker 1: they're gonna yeah. And like I said, the twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand is just my number, doesn't mean realist. You have
Speaker 1: to have twenty five have something. When you say hello
Speaker 1: to that young lady, you got something right that you
Speaker 1: guys got a couple of thousand. You're gonna get a
Speaker 1: hotel room, you're gonna have a little breakfast, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna nut in her. Let's keep it real. A guy's
Speaker 1: gonna nut how she's pregnant. Then what then what some
Speaker 1: of you're gonna lie and say give it a wrong name.
Speaker 1: Some of you're gonna curse out with her, bitch, My
Speaker 1: key and girls go take it deeper. You let a
Speaker 1: man get on top of you and nothing. You have
Speaker 1: a baby. But you know what, no one never talks
Speaker 1: about how you can die giving birth. That's real and combinations.
Speaker 1: And if you don't love a man enough to get
Speaker 1: on that table see to have a baby, you should
Speaker 1: truly love a nigga that's real because you could die,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? People get on the fucking
Speaker 1: I got pregnant, You're gonna have a baby, and you
Speaker 1: don't even know nothing about the man, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: give it there and risk your life. So you think,
Speaker 1: don't fuck unless you're ready to die for that. You
Speaker 1: got to love them all that. There's gonna be people
Speaker 1: who's gonna who are gonna be like, well, this guy's
Speaker 1: got seven kids from seven bait on my rich So
Speaker 1: it's different, could handled all that comes with it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a difference. And all my kids came at the
Speaker 1: twenty seven, right, I didn't have kids in my eighteen
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. I had them at the twenty seven. Why
Speaker 1: do you think you never got married or settled down.
Speaker 1: I've always felt that women mentally was petty. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: this is you got something to say? I agree. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: based on my experience with women in this world, every
Speaker 1: woman is petty, petty. I can't take it. I can't
Speaker 1: take the mood swings. I can't take an argument that
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're arguing about. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what what? Welcome to a relationship for thirteen years? I'm
Speaker 1: proposed to. I've been through that. Just one of those
Speaker 1: the other day where I'm just like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is going on? Or you're buying flowers for something that
Speaker 1: never happened. Yes, you're buying flowers for someone an argument
Speaker 1: you have no fucking idea what happens? You're just like
Speaker 1: here right, And I'm yeah, I'm the kind of guy
Speaker 1: I don't mind a good argument if there's if there's
Speaker 1: something to argue about, Yeah, you break off into a
Speaker 1: Google's map that's over here. What happens a lot is
Speaker 1: I feel like women people, Uh, there'll be so much
Speaker 1: suppressed anger about a bunch of little ship that eventually
Speaker 1: there's just a fight about. Like, like you said, what
Speaker 1: are we fighting about? It gotta makes sense? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: if did I do this? If I did this, and
Speaker 1: you can deal with it, but let's talk because you
Speaker 1: know what, I know I did that wrong. Now we're
Speaker 1: having a deal conversation, but to argue. So you just
Speaker 1: never could get over that aspect of I've always felt
Speaker 1: women and then by me being successful, women always sabotaged
Speaker 1: the relationship because they didn't believe and they don't trust you,
Speaker 1: whether they didn't trust me or they didn't believe they
Speaker 1: was I was actually dating them. Oh okay, So it
Speaker 1: was that insecurity when you're successful, when you're on the road,
Speaker 1: when you're TK Kirkling. Yeah, I mean all that always.
Speaker 1: Plus I'm always going, so it wouldn't be fair to
Speaker 1: a woman, right because I'm always going. Like the pandemic
Speaker 1: was really a great thing for me because aft of
Speaker 1: thirty seven years, I was able to stay home for
Speaker 1: the first time. Like, I've never been in one place.
Speaker 1: You've always been on the road, man, Yeah, always been
Speaker 1: on the road killing it. Like the thing that I
Speaker 1: tell people that even though you got people who went
Speaker 1: on to do good movies and get famous and they
Speaker 1: had the highs, right, right, But I've been consistent thirty
Speaker 1: seven years. Well, yeah, we see a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I'll drive by the Marquee at flappers here in Burbank
Speaker 1: or THEMN prov and I'll see somebody, but I remember
Speaker 1: that person from that movie in ninety nine. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been consistent. I won't go for an audition unless it's
Speaker 1: handed to me because because I've been I'm a hustler,
Speaker 1: so I don't believe in wasting my time. So I
Speaker 1: never I never went to the auditions to do movies
Speaker 1: because back in the day, I was you know, I was,
Speaker 1: I was in I was in the streets right and
Speaker 1: like when all my communion friends was coming up, I
Speaker 1: was richer than them and based on love the dal Hughgles,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the one that had the money. So
Speaker 1: but the way society changed, Yeah, sometimes I want to
Speaker 1: go on social media for the fucking bag of money
Speaker 1: that motherfuckers know, like yol ain't doing motherfuckers getting it.
Speaker 1: But my discipline, right, that's important. It's important to not
Speaker 1: give into your ego. Thank you, my, my, my, my discipline.
Speaker 1: That should happened to me all the time where I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to just fucking tell some motherfuckers. I just
Speaker 1: want to just do like I'm like every now, that show,
Speaker 1: every now and that my show you might, I won't
Speaker 1: show it. Show it. You might see me spinning and
Speaker 1: you caught a glimpse of it. I might do that,
Speaker 1: but I don't do this to put you, to get
Speaker 1: you locked up or get you robbed. How often do
Speaker 1: you work on new material? Every day? Every fucking two
Speaker 1: or three minutes? So when you're touring, because like obviously
Speaker 1: we'll see h comedians will go to the comedy store
Speaker 1: and work on their new ship that they're eventually going
Speaker 1: to hit the road with. Right for you is your
Speaker 1: is your live show always evolving every day and that's
Speaker 1: just your me most convenience. But that's once people see
Speaker 1: me perform, you truly see who's really the best comic
Speaker 1: that ever hit the mic? Like once you see me?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people don't have it in them
Speaker 1: to do new material, Like no, they do the same
Speaker 1: material time for six months. Mom, the rack changes like
Speaker 1: right now it's who raised you? But I don't even
Speaker 1: do who raised you really that much no more? You know,
Speaker 1: my new thing is about called you young witches don't
Speaker 1: know nothing about you know such and such? Right, and
Speaker 1: then I used to have things go don't play me
Speaker 1: play lotto. You got better chances, get your ass in
Speaker 1: the car, put your head out the window. Because I
Speaker 1: used to write titles for comedy, Like how somebody write
Speaker 1: a song? Right? Have you ever written for other comedians? No? No,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no. Everything is for me because everything
Speaker 1: to me comes from my heart. Because there are some
Speaker 1: comedians who use writers. People don't. Yeah, yeah, some do.
Speaker 1: And a lot of comedians have bid off my stuff
Speaker 1: and flipped it. But back in the day, I'm not
Speaker 1: the comedian to call someone say, yo, you stole my shit.
Speaker 1: Happens a lot that I think that's petty too, like
Speaker 1: no disrespect. I don't really fuck with comedians. I'm much
Speaker 1: older than them, and I'm a street nigga, so my
Speaker 1: way of thinking is different. Like I don't really hang
Speaker 1: with community. I don't go over your house. You know,
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna hang out. I see you would have
Speaker 1: a drink for a minute, But I go on about
Speaker 1: my business because I'm twenty maybe twenty and fifteen, twenty
Speaker 1: years older than you and coming up hustling, coming up
Speaker 1: getting my education as a college, being an athlete. I
Speaker 1: just saw the world differently. So I always tell people
Speaker 1: that I'm a businessman. In comedy, is my side hustle. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to stuff the podcast man, real quick. Appreciate
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Speaker 1: and let's get back to the interview, right, because because
Speaker 1: I've seen IG comedians that literally is one dude literally
Speaker 1: you're you're a bit about some girls about the graduate
Speaker 1: from high school right right, literally said that whole joke verbata.
Speaker 1: But I called them out. It happens all tweet all
Speaker 1: the comedians watching. You ever see somebody biting somebod else's
Speaker 1: ship them, call them out because I make videos on
Speaker 1: IG and every now and I say, like my boy
Speaker 1: TK would say, who raised? Yeah, No, I feel I
Speaker 1: do feel like there's because there's such a generation or
Speaker 1: like demographic separation between people who watch stand up and
Speaker 1: people who are on I G or TikTok comedians that
Speaker 1: there are people who like Patrise O'Neill. There was some
Speaker 1: dude on YouTube stole his whole ship for like a
Speaker 1: year and a half, and because it's a different world,
Speaker 1: you know, finally people started to really kind of hold this.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how you can do that and feel like
Speaker 1: you account for something. It's a short nut to see
Speaker 1: in my style. It's like Mike Gepps was saying one day,
Speaker 1: he said, you gotta be you can't really steal t.
Speaker 1: K kirklan because my ship's not be psyched with jokes.
Speaker 1: My ships, like I actually have lived it, you know,
Speaker 1: like my ship is for real. And if you do it,
Speaker 1: you got to have a certain swag of a sound
Speaker 1: about you, you know, like right now talking about how
Speaker 1: only date marry women and women who are a relationship
Speaker 1: because I know you hos ain't happy. Then the kind
Speaker 1: of bitches I fuck, but our niggas can't say that,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and then I talk about
Speaker 1: how and I said, and one of my vinches have
Speaker 1: been fucking for years died during COVID and we get
Speaker 1: out of here. And I said, she died during COVID,
Speaker 1: And I said, we have to you know, couldn't go
Speaker 1: to the funeral. So you had to have this ship
Speaker 1: on zoom, you know, And I said, and I said,
Speaker 1: the different men and a lot of you young motherfuckers,
Speaker 1: I think you play. See I'm the type of nigga
Speaker 1: if I'm fucking your wife or your girl, nigga, I
Speaker 1: can't fuck your girl and take out of the country,
Speaker 1: go to turks of kekos, roam nigga and come back
Speaker 1: and you don't have any gifts. I said, that's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I wasn't raised like that. I said, I'm fucking your girl.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get something when I come back. So the
Speaker 1: funeral that we had on Zoom, the young lady died
Speaker 1: and they had all our names up on the on
Speaker 1: the on the on the computer. So I was a
Speaker 1: sudden her husband want to be sensitive on this day.
Speaker 1: His bitch died right, So at the funeral, you know,
Speaker 1: because the mic is live, he gonna I see him
Speaker 1: get up, and he gonna walk over to the fend
Speaker 1: of director and he said, hey, t K. Kirkleys on Zoom,
Speaker 1: he's been having a field with my wife over fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Is there any way we could block him? And the
Speaker 1: funeral director is like, look, I don't block nobody. I
Speaker 1: don't even bomb people. So when he came back, it's
Speaker 1: good to see he took his jacket off and threw
Speaker 1: it over the camera. Now people may not understand, but
Speaker 1: I put that nigga that jacket in two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine. Can you imagine how I felt knowing
Speaker 1: that's the jacket that you bumped through. I brought you, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You have the nerve throat on the camera, disrespectful. This
Speaker 1: really happened. No, I just made it up. That's the thing. Like,
Speaker 1: there's some comedians that will say shit just out of shock.
Speaker 1: I believe that the color is have the ability to
Speaker 1: lure you in. See I'm a great storyteller. That's some
Speaker 1: real shit. That's hilarious. I had you your undivided attention
Speaker 1: the camera. Man. I was like, yeah, and if people
Speaker 1: gonna watch it, they're gonna be like, whoa. Then that
Speaker 1: would kill on stage. Oh yeah, I do it already.
Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing. Yeah you Uh. We were talking off
Speaker 1: the camera a bit about just some of the because
Speaker 1: you know, you're obviously a creative guy. You're a great writer. Uh.
Speaker 1: We're talking about how you're in the Ozark. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: now you think that's the great We're talking about fifty
Speaker 1: cents whole entire power, fifty influencing other drug dealers of
Speaker 1: the next generation because what people see they start reacting, right,
Speaker 1: So fifty took something and flipped it and he made
Speaker 1: hold stars. It should be fifty stars in the reup.
Speaker 1: That's what it should be cold right, and all shows
Speaker 1: a good and shout out to fifty. I introduced fifty
Speaker 1: on the Rough Riders tor back in the day before
Speaker 1: when he got shot. Oh wow, yeah that was like
Speaker 1: early fifty before. Yeah, Columbia Records, Columbia Records. So me
Speaker 1: and him was good. And to see what he's done
Speaker 1: is just awesome. So shout out to fifty. With the
Speaker 1: TV show Ozark, I get deep into TV and film,
Speaker 1: so I look at everything, the scenery in the background,
Speaker 1: the dialogue, the casting director who casts that show or
Speaker 1: shows right, because that person so you can get two
Speaker 1: or three good actors. But Ozark, everybody down to the bar,
Speaker 1: everybody down to who putting gas in the car, everybody
Speaker 1: who's walking by was strategically planned. So whoever did that
Speaker 1: was just did a phenomenal job because there's no weakness.
Speaker 1: The only thing that bothered me is with old Zak
Speaker 1: was that Marty is always getting out of one situation.
Speaker 1: And I build my life as find a solution so
Speaker 1: I can have peace of mind. He's never got piece
Speaker 1: of mind. He's never had a peace of mind. So
Speaker 1: that's irritating to me because I'm I teach my children that, right,
Speaker 1: what's the solution? So we went as a solution. So
Speaker 1: at least I don't give two days, three days or
Speaker 1: a month. I want some peace of mind somewhere in
Speaker 1: there is like motherfucking heart attack. Yeah yeah, it's crazy, crazy,
Speaker 1: that's to you? Is that that? That's your your goat
Speaker 1: TV show though? Number one? Yeah, Well I'm mad that
Speaker 1: I got it, got it off on the first day.
Speaker 1: I watched the whole season four and one day, just
Speaker 1: got it out the way, just got it out the way.
Speaker 1: And I was wonder while I was up to like
Speaker 1: seven eight in the morning. But man, it was worth it.
Speaker 1: That's how interesting it had. It had me on the
Speaker 1: edge of my seat. And I want to thank you,
Speaker 1: my man, for having me on your show. I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for great questions. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know what to ask me or to talk to
Speaker 1: me about, and I feel like you talk to me
Speaker 1: like a man, to talk about man things that people
Speaker 1: around the world can use and apply to their life.
Speaker 1: Because even if we get ninety percent of people don't
Speaker 1: understand that ten percent is worth well, you know, I
Speaker 1: think anything. These days, people are very uninterested in the
Speaker 1: actual point as much as they're interested in being mad exactly.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. Everyone wants to be emotional, yes,
Speaker 1: And the wild thing about that is you could be
Speaker 1: talking to somebody and they agree with you ninety five
Speaker 1: percent of the way. If you don't have five line
Speaker 1: attact that fire. I mean, that's kind of a man that,
Speaker 1: you know. They want to be hate, they want to
Speaker 1: the goal is in. We're in a very interesting place
Speaker 1: in life. You guys, age group man, brother, Thank god
Speaker 1: you're married, though you at your age that that age
Speaker 1: group you're in is in it's in danger. I can
Speaker 1: see it. I just think in general, if we think
Speaker 1: about like this, the period of time we're in, I think,
Speaker 1: what's weird about kind of you know, obviously four years
Speaker 1: of Trump, the America was very much here and here.
Speaker 1: But with some of the COVID stuff that's been happening
Speaker 1: over here and over here is starting to kind of
Speaker 1: overlap on this. It's just all insane. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this other day, like years ago.
Speaker 1: You never think of anybody fighting in the airplane. True,
Speaker 1: it's going to a whole nother level. It's just anger.
Speaker 1: People getting out the car and shooting each other because
Speaker 1: of one slight little mistake because you cut a person
Speaker 1: off by accident, because it just happened. Wasn't like I
Speaker 1: was trying to be rude. Should happen? People beating each
Speaker 1: other up for no reason, smashing grab people coming in
Speaker 1: and breaking to get jewelry? What that you can't sell?
Speaker 1: That you just going to prison for young kids, young
Speaker 1: rappers who are dying at alarm and rate more so
Speaker 1: than ever before. Oh, it's yeah, the hip hop thing
Speaker 1: is crazy, right, It's insane people, young adults, nipsy and
Speaker 1: all these people dying because they got hated. Like, millions
Speaker 1: of people love you, but let me take one hated
Speaker 1: to get you, and most most of those people are
Speaker 1: from where you're from. Yes, there's no hate that you're
Speaker 1: ever going to get. If you're successful, then from where
Speaker 1: you're from, because those people are like, why wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be right? Right? Right? It's like doctor Joy used to say.
Speaker 1: We used to be in the studio down in Torrence,
Speaker 1: and he used to always say, you can't touch what
Speaker 1: you can't see. So what's the solution. You moved out
Speaker 1: the way and you still can help people, but dream
Speaker 1: got to actually be there. Don't be don't be too accessible,
Speaker 1: don't be too accessible. And and the proven point Martin Luther, King,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Max, everybody who was those type of people. Or
Speaker 1: if the government can gets you, your own people will
Speaker 1: get you. So you got to stay moving real quick.
Speaker 1: Give us a story of just being on the road
Speaker 1: for that rough Riders tour. Obviously that's the rough right
Speaker 1: of tour, I tell you, because what year was that?
Speaker 1: That was? What the great thing about the rough Righter
Speaker 1: Tour even to this day is the respect that everybody
Speaker 1: gives me. Remember one day in Miami walking down matter
Speaker 1: of fact, airs with me. We was in Miami and
Speaker 1: how baby and them and his brother was just driving
Speaker 1: down the street. They pulled over. So is this the
Speaker 1: rough Riders cash money tour? Rough Riders cash money to
Speaker 1: at that time, rough Riders was the biggest ship and
Speaker 1: it was cash money. I mean they were both. The
Speaker 1: DMX was the yeah right, and it was it was
Speaker 1: just great. So from DMX to the rough Rider. Like
Speaker 1: so in comedy when comedians say they such and such
Speaker 1: the world to tell you that T. K. Kirkland is
Speaker 1: truly the man you may not see him in the movie,
Speaker 1: but I did some things that no other comics truly
Speaker 1: have done. I told with some of the you hosted
Speaker 1: that tour. So I hosted that toy, the Hard Knock
Speaker 1: Life tour with jay Z. You hosted the Hard Knock
Speaker 1: Life I was that was that was I was twelve
Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, I that met the Man and Red
Speaker 1: Man flying around here. Yep, sure was wow, the straight
Speaker 1: out of the Compton Tour. I've done it all. Also
Speaker 1: shout out to another guy who uh, Alex Thomas. When
Speaker 1: I was a kid, he hosted the Alex don't know.
Speaker 1: He almost got fired on that tour. Spoke to because
Speaker 1: doctor Day and we was in Detroit. They was gonna
Speaker 1: fire him. Bring it and because they was my crew,
Speaker 1: and they went in the back. And what we decided
Speaker 1: was I said no, this first time ever mentioned it.
Speaker 1: I said no, Alex, my man let him hold that.
Speaker 1: And then two weeks later I had got the cash
Speaker 1: Money tour. Yeah, so that means I would have had
Speaker 1: all those tours. What was like backstage like in ninety
Speaker 1: nine ninety eight with the rough Riders and the thing,
Speaker 1: there was much respect. But what the problem was is
Speaker 1: when we put made men on the concert on the
Speaker 1: tour that you know, right, YEA have been seeing them.
Speaker 1: So when we got to Boston, apparently the night before,
Speaker 1: DMX had a situation with a female and I didn't notice,
Speaker 1: you know, because when I hung out with everybody, I
Speaker 1: was my own guy. So when we come back to
Speaker 1: the stadium, I'm hearing the commotion, I'm still minding my business.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, May Men and the Rough Riders
Speaker 1: getting into this brawl in bost backstage in Boston, which
Speaker 1: is their hometown. Yes, and Nives right here. Knives is
Speaker 1: going past me like stabbing, like nobody everybody respect TK
Speaker 1: to the point that everybody's fighting around me. Nobody's fighting.
Speaker 1: No people getting stabbed, talking about stab but they was
Speaker 1: for real. But one thing I have to tell the world,
Speaker 1: you do not want to fuck with the Rough Riders.
Speaker 1: When I say mostly all those people from Maine men
Speaker 1: came out going to the hospital. They was the Rough
Speaker 1: Risers was prepared for that fight and they took down.
Speaker 1: But they DMX like directly involved in this. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think DMX wasn't fighting. Yeah, but it went crazy.
Speaker 1: I got mad because on the tour we was about
Speaker 1: to hit some of the biggest cities and the country
Speaker 1: that I was popular in, like Miami, And even though
Speaker 1: they knew me at the improv right, they didn't see
Speaker 1: I wanted them to see me under Cash Money Rough
Speaker 1: Rider Tour. It had been a whole and if you
Speaker 1: back in the day, it could be in all say
Speaker 1: the world, but the most beautiful women in the early
Speaker 1: late nineties was in Miami. I still think that might
Speaker 1: be the case. Still might be in Miami. Brother, it
Speaker 1: was off the chain. So to experience all that was
Speaker 1: just amazing on that tour. And I tell people to
Speaker 1: this day to see DMX perform, like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of great rappers, but to see DMX perform on stage
Speaker 1: by himself, it's unbelievable what he was capable of doing,
Speaker 1: the way he captivated crowds where he captivated by himself
Speaker 1: by you know, you couldn't take your eyes off him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, man, that was one of that contract,
Speaker 1: Like the Hard Knock Life Tour really kind of changed
Speaker 1: my life. Yeah. See, I liked that because he was
Speaker 1: twelve years that's amazing when he did those prayers yep, yep,
Speaker 1: and quiet has kept I always say this, Like when
Speaker 1: DMX got off on stage on the Hard Knock Life tour,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe stuck around for two or three J
Speaker 1: records and then left right right. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: we came here to see DMX. Yeah, shout out to
Speaker 1: Jay Volume two was going crazy at the time, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair. I got a crazy jay Z story. And
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time that back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five or thirty five years old, and I threw
Speaker 1: this big party in Harlem, and like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: well connected with the streets on young man named Eric
Speaker 1: bad Zip. I'm Haitian Jack. All these guys who rolled me.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Haitian Jack, always going to show him. Uh.
Speaker 1: My people hired the guys out of Brooklyn to do
Speaker 1: my birthday party. And we got the mink coats on,
Speaker 1: we got our cars outside, we floss. Yeah. So these
Speaker 1: guys are late, and my boy said, Yo, they here
Speaker 1: to you. He was gonna let them pull out and no,
Speaker 1: fuck the niggas And I got the coat on, fucking
Speaker 1: up the champagne spelling late nigga fucking later. No, TK,
Speaker 1: you got to let these dudes on. Nick go ahead,
Speaker 1: fucking nigga put you know, talking shit about them being late.
Speaker 1: Nick got that motherfucker Mike and turned my birthday party
Speaker 1: out insane jay Z jay Z ninety, this is pretty
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. So this is like, so I pulled them
Speaker 1: to the side, and this is we ain't have credit
Speaker 1: cards and we had nots of money and bro Man
Speaker 1: so peeled the fifteen hundred dollars and gave it to him, said,
Speaker 1: good show. I tell people he took my I'm saying
Speaker 1: he took my that was my seed money, and he
Speaker 1: flipped it and flipped it and flipped it and became
Speaker 1: a billionaire. Great great, jay Z, thank you for everything
Speaker 1: he's done for me too. Shout out to home. Yeah him,
Speaker 1: Damon dash Dame still still killing it. The studios, they
Speaker 1: always showed me, mad Love, always showed me mad Love.
Speaker 1: I always had to show tell those stories, even with Kelly,
Speaker 1: and I told Kelly a lot in the nineties as well,
Speaker 1: and God blessed his situation. But I will always show respect.
Speaker 1: He respect for what he did for me because he
Speaker 1: kept me working too, Like there's no other comedian that
Speaker 1: worked more than me, nobody, especially touring with touring, musical artists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about from n w A all the way
Speaker 1: to Patty the Bell you hosted these tours, yes, all
Speaker 1: the way to the Whispers Wow, all the way to
Speaker 1: Frankie Beverly and May Wow. Yeah, I'm talking about that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. What was the difference between like R
Speaker 1: Kelly hosting R Kelly Tour. It's a totally different dynamic
Speaker 1: and going out on the road with n w A.
Speaker 1: You're going out on the road with d MS. That's
Speaker 1: why I tell comics you gotta have see I've had
Speaker 1: the ability to switch up styles. True, that's versatility is
Speaker 1: very important. And there's a differentt A comedian and the
Speaker 1: mc M. I've never heard commedian to this day. You
Speaker 1: ever say mc and what that means is master ceremonies.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. You gotta know how to
Speaker 1: be the master something. What's the guy that came over
Speaker 1: at Depth, jam On gorg Elon with the black hair,
Speaker 1: he over at Warner Brothers, Now, oh fucking Lee or
Speaker 1: Cohen Cohen? He saw me at the rough ride of tour. No,
Speaker 1: I'll never get what he said. He said, t K.
Speaker 1: He said, No one knows how important your job is.
Speaker 1: So he said, you have the ability to control the room,
Speaker 1: because how if I want to set that room up,
Speaker 1: if I want to start a riot. I started writing,
Speaker 1: if I keep them keep them laughing. So one of
Speaker 1: the things that was phenomenal. We was in New York
Speaker 1: City and I kept telling the audience from the verb begain, Hey,
Speaker 1: I got some special people. I've been this business a
Speaker 1: long time. Y'all in for a treat to night, Ladies down.
Speaker 1: We keep bringing on different acts. So I talked to
Speaker 1: the music guy off stage and listen, this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. You follow me and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers. He's like, so playing doing this thing right
Speaker 1: before cash money comes on? Come, I said, Yo, I've
Speaker 1: been telling you for an hour that I've been this business.
Speaker 1: People fuck with me, they love me. And when I'm
Speaker 1: about to say this thing, didn't imagine these people's big
Speaker 1: talk about superstars this time, I said, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: put your hands together for Doctor Dre Snoop Dogg and
Speaker 1: Eminem and they play Eminem's music. From the beginning. I
Speaker 1: had the TV people lights take everything down like they
Speaker 1: was really get ready to come on. They was losing
Speaker 1: their mind. I walk off the stage. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: they losing their mind, and come back on the stage
Speaker 1: and say, psych had him in my palm. Now, if
Speaker 1: they didn't love me, they have turned that motherfucker out.
Speaker 1: But they loved me. And when they clapping and laughing
Speaker 1: because I got them, I said, even baby, because I
Speaker 1: see it was coming out, I said, put you to
Speaker 1: get a cat. Even after show, he said, I really
Speaker 1: thought them niggas was here real quick. Last thing, when
Speaker 1: you were on the road with Kelly, did you how
Speaker 1: was he as a dude? Because we always hear never
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm independent. I never rolled it even though
Speaker 1: it was a cast money, never rolled it the outside
Speaker 1: of the stadium. Even when I was with n w A.
Speaker 1: Because I was I was much older than most. I
Speaker 1: moved like a man. You really weren't around R Kelly
Speaker 1: enough to really kind of get never paid attention, never
Speaker 1: went hung out well, and never got women. Even with
Speaker 1: n w A. When you see the movies and I'm
Speaker 1: sucking in the dressing room, I mean this hotel, I
Speaker 1: was fucking in your own way. Yeah, I'm a player,
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking the monk. They was kids at that time,
Speaker 1: they wasn't moving the way I was moving. I was moving.
Speaker 1: I was already moving. So even when I come to
Speaker 1: the tours, like I remember jay Z Crew, was like
Speaker 1: because every city went to I always had a bad
Speaker 1: bitch breathing on me. They're like, niver fucking will we go?
Speaker 1: You got a bad bitch everywhere I went, every city
Speaker 1: I had still the case. You still get the nice
Speaker 1: I don't fuck no more. I snugle with bitches. I
Speaker 1: respect it. Ye see I snuggled. Is that from a
Speaker 1: choice or just from a like you're just tired. I'm
Speaker 1: just tired, you know, Like I had other than the
Speaker 1: other night had a girl snuggling with me and she's like,
Speaker 1: t K, you've been working out like it's strong, and
Speaker 1: you know you're holding me tired dick on my spine
Speaker 1: and I can't breathe. Like bitch, I heard you steal
Speaker 1: grass holds your type c k't curcules each other