1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. It is a 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: size them up Sunday here, well really probably early Monday morning, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: after the Ravens went a primetime game over the Jacksonville 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars hunster tickets to the playoffs, twenty three to seven 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: victory for this team. The Ravens go on the road 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: face another team that's fighting for a playoff spot, get 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: the win in pretty convincing fashion. Lamar Jackson plays a 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: great game. Clifton Brown is joining me here today is 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Ryan mink Is making his way back from Jacksonville. So Cliff, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: this is a pretty thrilling game right here. And you 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: got to feel good about what the Ravens were able 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: to accomplish tonight. 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: All no question, obviously the big deal Clinton the playoff 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: spot in week fifteen with three games left, you know, 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: no this year, going to that last week of the season, 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: you know we need to do this and then waiting 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: for five, six and seven results as there's been other 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: past years. This is really, you know, to me, being 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: the first team in the AFC, the Clinton playoff spot 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: really shows you how consistent the Ravens have been all season. 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: They've been in every game. 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: No team has really, you know, in my mind, you know, 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: outplayed them, certainly from start to finish. They've been ready 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: to play every week. They've shown an ability to win 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: games in different ways, and they're closing people out now. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: You know. Earlier in the season and last season, finishing games, 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: you know, was some time an issue for the Ravens, 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: but they are really shutting the door on people now 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: and that bodes well for what they can do moving forward. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this game was really significant on a 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: variety of levels. One, I think when you go back 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: and you look through the Ravens schedule and you look 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: at some of the teams they've beaten when they've they've 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: they've they've got plenty of good wins on the schedule, 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: but some of those have come against teams when they've 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: been hobbled, like the Bengals, for example, early in the season, 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: bros So working his way back from the calf injury, 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and then the second time he went down early in 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: that game and finish the game. You know, when they 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: beat the Browns earlier this year, Deshaun Watson was sidelined. 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: Of course, Joe Blacko wasn't even there yet, and so 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: you can kind of pick apart some of those, you 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: know at times. This was a game on the road 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: in a prime time mappmas yere against a hungry team, 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: a very hungry team that was coming off two straight 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: losses that really needed to get back on track because 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: they're fighting for their playoff lives. And I think Jacksonville 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: is a really good team. I think Trevor Lawrence is 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: one of the best young quarterbacks in the game. And 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens were able to go there and win a 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: convincing fashion win by a couple of scores. I just 52 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: thought that it said a lot about this team and 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: how well rounded the Ravens are on both sides of 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: the ball. 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with all of that. 56 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: And you know, I thought John Haiball made an interesting 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: comment last week after the overtime win against the Rams 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: when he said, well, you know, we're kind of winning 59 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: games playoff type games. You know, we're approaching these last 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: you know, four games almost as if they are the playoffs. 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: And yes, I thought tonight's game did have a playoff 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: type atmosphere for all the reasons that you just mentioned. 63 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: The Ravens, you know, were aware, at least most of 64 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: them were aware if not all that they could you know, 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: get in the playoffs with a win, and the Jaguars 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: knew they need this game badly to try and you know, 67 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: improve their playoff chances. So it did have a playoff 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: type feel, prime time, big stage, and the Ravens really 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: answered on both sides of the football. 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, I. 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: Mean, now that they're in the playoffs, they obviously the 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: work isn't done. They want that number one seed, they 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: want home field throughout the playoffs in the buy and 74 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: obviously the game against the forty nine ers is again 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: going to have a playoff type atmosphere. But the Ravens 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: to me are really you know, kind of toughening themselves 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: now that they need toughening, but they are really going 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: through these tests I think is going to pay off 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: not only next week, but with each game down here 80 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: to stretch going to the playoffs. I think they're really 81 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: going into the postseason now with the right type of vibe. 82 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you kind of step back and when 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: you play a night game, you have the opportunity. I'm 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: sure plenty of Ravens fans watch football for much of 85 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: the game, much of the day on Sunday and you 86 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: have a chance to kind of take stock of the league, 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: and over the course of the day on Sunday, it 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: kind of became evident that this game against Jacksonville tonight 89 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: was maybe even more significant than you realize. At the 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: start of the day, you know, the Browns pull off 91 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: a win, an improbable comeback victory over the Bears, and 92 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're sitting there saying, Okay, if 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: you don't beat Jacksonville tonight, now the Browns are one 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: game back. You don't feel great about that scenario. All 95 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Buffalo is coming on strong, and you're 96 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: looking around the AFC and it's just like, Okay, there's 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: a lot of good teams here, and you want to 98 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: keep that edge that you have, certainly in the division, 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: as Cleveland seems to have found something recently with Flacco 100 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: at quarterback, and the Ravens were able to do that. 101 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is as I really did like 102 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: the tone of this team, both postgame and going into it. 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: You mentioned what John Harbaugh said related to the playoffs. 104 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Basically starting now, I think that's the way a lot 105 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: of the players and everyone are associated with the team 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: is kind of looking at it coming out of the buy. 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: It's basically like, this is the playoffs. Every team that 108 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: you're facing is either competing for a playoff spot or 109 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs. Over the last five 110 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: games of the regular season, you're competing for the number 111 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: one overall seed, and you want to go into that 112 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: postseason feeling really good about where the team is, where 113 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the team sits, and so I think that they do 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: have that playoffs starts now mentality. The last thing I 115 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: would say on that front is with all of that said, 116 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: I also loves the reaction post games that this team 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: had to making the playoffs, like no champagne popping, no 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: champagne popping in the locker room. Lamar Jackson didn't even know. 119 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: He didn't even know that they had clinched the playoffs 120 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: until he found out in a postgame interview. I mean 121 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: that kind of speaks to Lamar. He's like, I was 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: just locked in. I just know that we got to 123 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: keep winning and gotta win every single week. And he 124 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: said he wasn't even aware that they had officially clinched 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: a playoff spot. And I think that that is that 126 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: mentality of laser focus, not worried about anything else is 127 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: definitely a theme of this team, and Lamar really sets 128 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: the tone in a lot of ways in that regard. 129 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: No question, I mean, you know, staying with Lamar, he's 130 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: just a special player, you know, and he's showing it 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: in ways this year. I think that he's never done 132 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: it quite like this. The way he's buying time in 133 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: the pocket to throw, not just to run, the way 134 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: he's taken control of a new offensive system, the way 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: as he talks about being locked in where yeah, he 136 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: said something like tonight, well, I'm a little happy that 137 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: we got in the playoffs, you know, like, Okay, I 138 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: can smile a little bit. But more than ever, the 139 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: goal is to win the super Bowl, which he's been 140 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: clear about ever since the year round in Baltimore. But 141 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: I think he's taking a slightly different approach in that 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: these are just steps along the way. And yeah, I 143 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: mean the Ravens, you know, let's face it, you know, 144 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: coming into this game, they pretty much figured they were 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: gonna get in the playoffs at some point one way 146 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: or another as a number one seed. But they they 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: really feel like this window for them to do something 148 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: special is open this year and they need to walk 149 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: through it much more than they did to me in 150 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, when obviously going fourteen and two, they were 151 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: the favored going into the playoffs, but they a lot 152 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: of guys on the team were much younger than and 153 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: I think there was a feeling that even though that 154 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: was a crushing loss, that they would get back, you know, 155 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: more quickly in this position than they have. And you know, 156 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Lamar hasn't even able to finish the last two seasons 157 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: due to injury. The Ravens, you haven't been able to 158 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: get back to that point since twenty nineteen, and this time, 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: I think there's more of a sense that we have 160 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: to take advantage of this golden opportunity now because tomorrow 161 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: isn't promised as far as when you might get an 162 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: opportunity like this again. 163 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is There's a lot of things 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: going right for this team. Young players, you know, maturing 165 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: and kind of growing into their own like a Justin 166 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: mattebike betteran players who have come here who are flourishing 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: like a clowney, like a van Ney. Then you have, 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, I think players like Lamar, Rokwan, Patrick Queen 169 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: who have an understanding of what the opportunity that's in 170 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: front of this team, and like to the point about nineteen, 171 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that there was kind 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: of a that team was young and naive and they 173 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: didn't know what they didn't know, and that was part 174 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: of the beauty of that team. But I also think that, 175 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't a full appreciation trish for how 176 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: good they were, to be honest, and so now you 177 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: have the situation where you know they've I think they 178 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: have experienced that. Lamar has experienced the highs and lows 179 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: of the last few seasons. I mean, he said it himself, 180 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: He's pointed it out, like the last two years, he 181 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: wasn't even on the field in December, So he's relishing 182 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play in these games and he's making 183 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: a difference. And I think that we should spend some 184 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: time talking about number eight because in front of a 185 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: national audience, I thought he made a case for the 186 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: MVP conversation. You know, I think it's I think it's 187 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Rock Purdy has certainly made a case earlier in the 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: day as well, you know, so I don't think it's 189 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: like Lamar running away with it right now. But I 190 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: thought he made a strong statement, so much so that 191 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: by the end of the game, Chris Collinsworth was basically 192 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: running the campaign advertisements for him, you know, on the broadcast, 193 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: talking about all that he does. I mean, honestly, this offense, 194 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: I think for much of the night was kind of 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: out of sync. But the one thing that was working 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: basically perfectly was Lamar Jackson making dazzling plays across the board. 197 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: And I thought he delivered an excellent performance. 198 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, how special, how unique of 199 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: a player Lamar is. But yet when you see it, 200 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: it still blows you away, particularly when you don't see 201 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: it on a weekly basis like we do. And yeah, 202 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: I think Collinsworth rightfully so was blown away a few 203 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: times by some of the things Lamar did in this game. 204 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: And who wouldn't be and he and when Lamar in 205 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, when he did win the MVP early in 206 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: that season, I remember Russell Wilson was the favorite, the 207 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: early favorite to win the MVP. And then when the 208 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: Ravens went to Seattle and beat Seattle and beat Russell Wilson, 209 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: and Jackson picked up real momentum and ended up winning 210 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: an unanimous vote. You know, next game against the forty 211 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: nine ers. You know, Purty, you know a lot of 212 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: people think he's a favorite. But you know, if the 213 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: Ravens win national TV game, Lamar has a big game. 214 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: To me, then it it'd be hard not to think 215 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: that that's not gonna help Lamar a lot if that 216 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: happens like that. So, you know, Lamar clearly wants to 217 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. He I don't really think is 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: thinking much about the MVP, But for my money, there's 219 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: nothing wrong with winning both. I think that right now 220 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: he certainly has a chance to do that. 221 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, he does. I mean, we'll spend plenty of time 222 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: to talk about that San Francisco game over the course 223 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: of this week, because you know, it's probably the game 224 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: of the NFL. We're gonna be throwing out Super Bowl 225 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: preview it. But also, you make a good point there, 226 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: there is kind of the MVP conversation that's going to 227 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: be had throughout the week because Perdy and Lamar are 228 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: really the top two guys in that race right now, 229 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: and this is a head to head matchup between the 230 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: two of them. I just thought like overall, he was 231 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: dazzling with his ability to maneuver around the pocket and 232 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: then still look for opportunities to throw the ball down 233 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: the field. He also ran plenty times, finished just shy 234 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: of one hundred yards, but like he was, there were 235 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: people pressuring him throughout the night. Of course, the play 236 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: that everybody's talking about that's going to be leading Good 237 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Morning Football on Monday was the play where he broke 238 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: out of a potential sack and then heaves the ball 239 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: down on Isaiah Like he makes a great catch that 240 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: ultimately sets up a touchdown. You know, that's gonna be 241 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: one of those Player of the Year type moments if 242 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: he ends up winning MVP, it's going to be on 243 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: the first ten seconds of that highlight reel. And he 244 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: but it wasn't just that. I mean he was making 245 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: plays from the very first drive of the game where 246 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: he was extending. He was extending plays, he was avoiding 247 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: the pass rush, he was spreading the ball around to 248 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman, a different guy. The tied up and get 249 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: everybody evolved. I just thought his ability in the pocket 250 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: was so impressive tonight, as good as it's been when 251 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: he had pressure in his face, because I think the 252 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: tackles had a tough time with some of the pass rush. 253 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: You know, those are two good edge rushers coming off 254 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: the edge there, and Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker, and 255 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: they put heat on Lamar, but he was up for 256 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: it and he delivered. 257 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 258 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's an example of Lamar's game continuing to evolve. 259 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's only twenty six, He's in a new 260 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: offensive system. I think this system has been good for him. 261 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: Todd Monkin has been good for Lamar. I think quarterbacks 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: coach t Martin has been good for Lamar. And I 263 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: think Lamar has been good for Labar. And he's seen 264 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: you know, so many different type of defenses trying to 265 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: stop him. And you know tonight the Jaguars, you know, 266 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: they spied him a lot, so he knew that even 267 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: when he escaped the pocket, he was going to deal 268 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: with another defender to get passed before he could make 269 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: significant yards with his legs. So yeah, I think he 270 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: that experience that Lamar's had over the last three or 271 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: four years is helping him definitely throwing to wide receivers 272 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: like Odell and Zay Flowers and now likely stepping up. 273 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: You know, this is the big best wide receiver cord 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: that he's ever thrown to Bateman had some nice catches 275 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: to night, so he's got more options in the passing game. 276 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: All that is coming together for him. And you know, 277 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: Lamar has been in the spotlight his whole career. 278 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: Since he became a Raven starter. 279 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: And I do think that even though you know, nobody's perfect, 280 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: and there certainly some things that you could look at 281 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: that he needed to work on, that people forget how 282 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: young he is, and at most quarterbacks their vintage years come, 283 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: you know, late twenties even early thirties, when they have 284 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: the experience and still have the physical gifts. And to me, 285 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: he's just been this rush with Lamar to kind of 286 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: cap him. Okay, this is who he is, this is 287 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: what he is, this is what he can do, this 288 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: is what he can't do. But he's showing people I 289 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: think this year in ways that he hasn't show him 290 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: before that you might want to put a ceiling on 291 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: what I can do, but I'm ready to bust through 292 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: that ceiling and do more. 293 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I like that, Cliff, I agree. I 294 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: just think that he's added so many different layers to 295 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: the game. The Raves are asking him to do so 296 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: much more, and and he's still capable of the of 297 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: the heroics that we've seen plenty of times in his career. 298 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: I just think that, like when you have players on 299 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the opposing team on that likely play, Smoot gets to Lamar, 300 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, makes brings him down. Ultimately after Lamar gets 301 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: rid of the football and he literally says to him, 302 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: you can see it on the broadcast, how did you 303 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: do that? How did you do that? Like players are 304 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: going up against him trying to bring him down, and 305 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: they're and they're marveling at the plays that he's making. 306 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: And I think that, like that sign of respect from 307 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: other players is just an indication of the level of 308 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: excellence that Lamar is playing at this year. And tonight 309 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: was fun to watch it. It really was fun to 310 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: watch him develop. And also, you know, on the receiving 311 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: end of the big play we got to talk about 312 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: the podcast bump okay to this was a clear podcast up. 313 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Isaiah Lakely comes on the podcast last week. Then he 314 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: delivers his best game of the season, including being on 315 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: the receiving end of that terrific play. For Lamar, Likely's 316 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: catch was was equally as impressive. I don't know that 317 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: we ever had a bigger podcast bump than this one 318 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: right here with Isaiah Likely. 319 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: Cliff, Yeah, you guys should take props for that. I 320 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: mean that was Yeah, that was really interesting, you know, 321 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: with Likely talking about you know, it's being in touch 322 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: with Mark Andrews during this injury. 323 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: By the time, and Andrews giving him. 324 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: Tips about how Lamar likes to be run and giving him, 325 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: you know, things that can really help him, you know 326 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: now that he's stepping into this role going forward, and 327 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 2: you know, Likely has really obviously stepped up in a 328 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: big way since Mark has been injured, and throwing to 329 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: the tight ends has been such a major part of 330 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: Lamar's repertoire. He hasn't had to change that with Likely 331 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: in the lineup, you know, obviously he does it differently, 332 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: as he said that Mark and Mark's you know, three 333 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: time Pro bowlers, so Likely he's in his second year. 334 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm not comparing it to but to have a tight 335 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: end like that who can make plays, make tough catches, 336 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: make yards after catch, run rounds where he seems to be, 337 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: you know, on the same page with Lamar even more 338 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: so than he was last year as a rookie. That 339 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: allows the Ravens not to have to switch gears offensively, 340 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: and it makes opponents if they're not gonna respect the 341 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: tight end likely he's going to keep burning them. And 342 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: even if they do, he's a tough cover. So yeah, 343 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: he's he was huge tonight, but he's been Likely, He's 344 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: been huge since he got into the lineup more with 345 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: Mark being gone, and he's going to be huge for 346 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: this team moving forward. 347 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you haven't done so, I think that fans, viewers, 348 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: listeners would enjoy checking out the interview that we did 349 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: with Likely last week. It's on YouTube. You can of 350 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: course listen to it wherever you get your podcasts and 351 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: listen to it down the speed. But you know, I 352 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: honestly now we're all victim. We all fall victim to this. 353 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: You had you do the interview with the guy, and 354 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: you fall in love with the story, and you fall 355 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: in love with the mindset, and then all of a 356 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: sudden you start feeling like this is the guy who's 357 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: going to be making big plays. And I'm believing in 358 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: this guy. We've all done it. So I did come 359 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: out of the interview with Isaiah feeling like I really 360 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: I liked his mindset, I liked his makeup and I 361 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: point to, you know, kind of the low point of 362 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: his season where he had that drop against the Colts, 363 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: And he shared with us on the podcast that he 364 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: texted Lamar after the game and said, that's never gonna 365 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: happen for me again. Like he has he has a 366 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: high level of expectation for himself. He was he was 367 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: killing himself from that drop, and he wanted Lamar to know, like, 368 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: you can trust me, and Lamar said, I know who 369 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: you are, I know what you're capable of, don't worry 370 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: about it. And I just thought to me, that showed 371 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: some real maturity from Isaiah, and I think it showed 372 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: how much he cares. And I think that it also 373 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: was a window into the confidence that he has in himself. 374 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: He could have used that as a moment to beat 375 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: himself up, rather than that he said, no, I'm not 376 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: letting that happen again, and he didn't and he and 377 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: he has not done that, So I thought that was 378 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: really telling from him. He has five catches, seventy yards 379 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: of touchdown, the heroic play from Lamar to set up 380 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: the gust that would score, So just an excellent game 381 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: from Isaiah. Likely it's good to see him coming on, 382 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, 383 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: we'll we'll dive into some of the stuff that wasn't 384 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: so positive and will we will provide some injury updates. 385 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm Key Ravens for you. Thank you for listening to 386 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: the Lounge podcast. We're coming to you from the Ski studio. 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All right, Cliff, 415 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: So let's let's get into the uh, you know, the 416 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: part of the game that nobody likes and really was 417 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of the disappointing element of just such a great night, 418 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: which is the injuries. Keith Mitchell being the most notable. 419 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: The sensational rookie running back goes down with a knee injury. 420 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: John Harboll said, it's a serious knee injury, and keaton 421 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: season looks like it's over, and so just really disappointing 422 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: news for him. Well, and then we run through the 423 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: other ones quickly, and then I want to get your 424 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: take on Im Keaton. Mitchell Marcus Williams left the game 425 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: with a injury. He was on the field at the 426 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: end of the game and he's day to day. John 427 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: Harbaugh said, So relatively good news on that front. And 428 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: then Ronnie Stanley and Jalen armor Davis both in the 429 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: concussion protocols. So with with Keaton, just just a really 430 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: really tough blow for him, A no question. 431 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, on a personal note with him obviously, you know, 432 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: great story making the team underrafted free agent, you know, 433 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: father a former raven you know Ravens fans know the backstory, 434 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: but it's just it's just a great one. And to 435 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: see the way he burst into the lineup the second 436 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 2: half of the season and the dramatic impact he has 437 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: as a home run hitteror. 438 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: Blazing speed, I mean his speed. 439 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: There's guys who are fast and then there are guys 440 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: who just make you go wold. 441 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: He has like that wild speed. 442 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, he knew that he was going to continue 443 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: to be a playmaker for a team that has something 444 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: to do, has a chance to do something, Vessel, So 445 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: tough blow for him, you know, obviously, prayers with him, Hope, 446 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: hope he makes a full recovery and can continue his career, 447 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: you know the way that it is trending as a 448 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: rookie just as a guy could be an impact player. So, yeah, 449 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: he's gonna be missed both on the field and off. 450 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: And then yeah, the other injuries, Yeah, Marcus Williams. Yeah, 451 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: hopefully it's something he can shake off. He's had a 452 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: really tough year as far as injuries years. Yeah, it 453 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: hats off to him. He's a guy that despite the injuries, 454 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: he comes back as quickly as he can, plays hurt 455 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: and looked like he was starting to play better every week, 456 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: and so hopefully this will be something that doesn't set 457 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: him back. And then obviously concussions, Hopefully those those two guys, 458 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: you know, Ronnie and Jalen will be able to shake 459 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: it off. And concussions are tricky, but you know, obviously 460 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: they put you in the protocol and you come out 461 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: when you come out, So This is just another reminder 462 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: as if you need it one why it's important to 463 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 2: get that first round by I mean, just to not 464 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: have to have two weeks rest for guys to heal 465 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: and to not have one game where more guys can 466 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: get hurt. To me, you know, sometimes people talk about, 467 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: well do you really want to buy because maybe you 468 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: lose momentum going up, Like it's a no brainer. The 469 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: buyer is a no brainer. I think it helps every 470 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: team and it would be helpful for the Ravens to 471 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: get it. 472 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, just going back to Keaton real quick, I mean, 473 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: I think certainly you feel for him, as you mentioned, 474 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: just just to really really it's just sad. You know, 475 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: this is a guy that's undrafted, makes a team, great story, 476 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: and it's just ascending rapidly, and he has been a 477 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: difference maker for this team the second half of the 478 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: season and only seeing that he was going to get 479 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: more and more on his plate. I mean in nine 480 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: carries tonight for seventy three yards, you know, if he 481 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt on that play, Lamar said, I mean, 482 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: it's like he might have taken that one, you know 483 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: for a big game, maybe to the house and he's 484 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: going to be difficult to replace. I mean, he brought 485 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: a home run threat, and when he emerged, it kind 486 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: of changed his offense in a lot of ways. The 487 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: Ravens have now lost their their you know JK. Dobbins 488 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: week one and then at this point Jay Keith Mitchell 489 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: was really their top running back and so they've kind 490 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: of lost two top running backs this year. Just difficult 491 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: for this for this offense. I mean, I've got faith 492 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: in Gus Edwards and Justice Hill, but Keaton provided something different. 493 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: So I think that that is going to be difficult 494 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: to overcome. And that's not he that's that type of 495 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: production and that type of speed is not easy for 496 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: a place, and so the Ravens have a real challenge 497 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: on that front. A couple other notes on on the 498 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: game tonight. You know, I really thought certainly early in 499 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: the first half, in the first half as a whole, 500 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens kind of benefited from the mistakes and they 501 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: were opportunistic too, but you know, Jacksonville had the kind 502 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: of mismanaged clocks. A situation at the end of half, 503 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has dropped the ball, you know, to Arthur Molett, 504 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: which was which was a gift, to be honest. I 505 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: mean that was they're in field goal range. Their field 506 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: goal kicker misses two kicks. It was a windy nights, 507 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: so not easy kicks, you know, long kicks, but you 508 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: know he's he's capable of making them, so he misses too. 509 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence coughs one up. They missed many things at 510 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: the end of the first half, so you know, they 511 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: left points on the board. I give the Ravens defense 512 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: credit for not allowing them, you know, making them, making 513 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: them kick the long field goal and putting stress on 514 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: on their offense. But I thought that was a benefit 515 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: to this team earlier in the game. 516 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: Oh, no question. 517 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the Jaguars made some really key mistakes 518 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: and you mentioned them. Yeah, but when that happens, when 519 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: your opponent does that, you take advantage of it. And 520 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: you know you're going to make mistakes. Every team's gonna 521 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: make some physical eras and they're going to have some 522 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: games where you make more than others. It's important that 523 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: you have a team that can pick. 524 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: Each other up. 525 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: When the offense makes a mistake, the defense can pick 526 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: it up and vice versas. The Ravens have that type 527 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: of team. They can win defensively, offensively, special teams, making 528 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 2: big plays, grinding it out. That's another reason why I 529 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: like this team. And yeah, I mean, you know, Trevor 530 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: Lawrence carries a real heavy load for the Jaguars, and 531 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: to me, they're still at the stage where if he 532 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: doesn't play lights out, it's hard for them to win. 533 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: The Ravens obviously, they have a special player in Lamar, 534 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: and when he plays lights out, the Ravens are really 535 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: really tough to beat. But even when he doesn't, they 536 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: can still win. Or when their defense isn't lights out, 537 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: or when the running game is in sharp, or where 538 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: they're not getting big plays, have been finding ways different 539 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: ways to win all year and that to me is 540 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: the mark of a team that can do something big 541 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: when they get the opportunity. 542 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great point. And they've got 543 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: they're just getting contribution. And it kind of goes back 544 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: to the conversation we had at the start about the 545 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: window and the opportunity that this team has. They have 546 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: the ability to pick each other up, and so you 547 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: don't want to waste that. And you know a guy 548 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: that I'll point to who made some history tonight is 549 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: Justin Outabk. So here's someone who's who's having a career 550 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: year at the right time. Certainly before he goes out 551 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: there becomes a free agent. Hopefully the Raves are able 552 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: to keep him in Baltimore he doesn't hit the market. 553 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: But he said a record tonight, eleven straight games with 554 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: at least half a sack. That's tied for the most 555 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Nobody around the NFL was expecting that 556 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: from Justin Outabek to set to tie that record, and 557 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: hopefully he can break it next week. Eleven straight game 558 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: like he is providing getting consistent pass rush the Jaguars 559 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: clearly tonight, I thought made a considered effort to try 560 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: to get the ball out of Trevor Lawrence's hands quickly 561 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: to try to neutralize this Ravens pass rush, which isn't 562 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: as good as any in the league, but Matta Bik 563 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: still got to him. Also would have had another one, 564 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: but Lawrence got called for intentional grounding earlier in the 565 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: game when Matta Bk. 566 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Got to him. 567 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: He is a disruptive player, and so you know, even 568 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: if the offense is kind of sputtering, when you have 569 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: matt a Bik who can come in there and make 570 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: plays and give the offense the ball deep in the 571 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars territory. That's a good thing. That's what that's like. 572 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: The complimentary football that you're talking about, and the reason 573 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: that both of us feel like this Ravens team is 574 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: is legitimate and has a real opportunity in front of him. 575 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: A couple other points I just want to hit, you know, 576 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: before we wrap up here. Marlon Humphrey. I thought big 577 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: bounce back game for him, you know, I think there 578 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: was He took some heat this week, did not have 579 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: his best game against the Rams, especially late in that game. 580 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't give up much of anything in 581 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: this game. I thought it was a nice bounce back 582 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: for him. 583 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, great players rarely have two bad games 584 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 2: in a row. Like in any sport I've you know, 585 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: all the years I've been covering sports, that's been universal. 586 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think his pride was stung a little bit. 587 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: He wasn't one hundred percent his first game back, but 588 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: Marlon doesn't make excuses. So yeah, whoever was gonna get 589 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey tonight was gonna get the business. I felt 590 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: like that's how it was gonna be as long as 591 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: his health allowed. And yeah, I mean the way he's 592 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: if he plays like that, and then you have Brandon 593 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: Stevens on the other side playing like that, I mean 594 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: that's quite a duo. Stevens I thought had a good 595 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: game too. Really, he's been playing well all year. And 596 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: then yeah, Marlon, you know, it's been much like Marcus 597 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: Williams been tough with injuries for Marlon this year. 598 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: If he can just stay healthy. 599 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: From this point on, as John Harbaugh said, you know, 600 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: he's the least of. 601 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And then Kyle Hamilton playing hurt, you know, 602 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: he gets hurt last week, plays plays through. It showed 603 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: no ill effects. I mean, if it was bothering him, 604 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: he didn't look like it. He was making plays in 605 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: the backfield, was as good as he's been all season. 606 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Ro Kawan Smith and some uh, you know, some colorful 607 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: language talking about how uh, how impressed he was with 608 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton and just basically this guy's a warrior and 609 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he went out there and played and 610 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: he played at that level, uh, says basically everything you 611 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: need to know about him. You know, tough guy puts 612 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: it online for his teammates, and uh, you know collins 613 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Worth two with with Kyle Hamilton was was talking about 614 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: just how big of a difference maker he is. Kind 615 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: of talked about him like he's the glue to this defense. 616 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of buzz about Kyle Hamilton 617 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: being a pro bowler. I think he absolutely should be, 618 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: and I thought that what he did tonight was another 619 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: step in that direction. The other thing too, This is 620 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: the last point, Charlie Kohler, nice catch. And then did 621 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: you catch that he was the quarterback on that quarterback 622 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: sneak that basically the Philly the tush push, our version 623 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: of the tush push. It was Charlie Koher carrying the ball, 624 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: which was an interesting little wrinkle that that that they 625 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: rolled out there. 626 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first of all, Charlie Cole is a 627 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: huge guy. 628 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: Like I spoke to him a couple of days ago 629 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: in the locker room and he's not a guy I 630 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: speak to like, you know, every day, and yeah, I 631 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: know how big he is. 632 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: But then when you were looking up at him. 633 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, holy crap, Like this guy is huge, and yeah, 634 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: he caught a lot of passes in college. He was 635 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: like likely a guy who was a playmaker, and yeah, 636 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: he he caught that pass like you know, it was 637 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: his fiftieth catch of the year. 638 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: He didn't know any better. 639 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: You would think, oh, he's a starting tight end, and 640 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: yeah he caught one in the red zone. 641 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean again, it speaks to. 642 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: The Ravens depth that they have a guy who's their 643 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: number three tight end who has that much potential. 644 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: And yeah with. 645 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: Hamilton, I mean I think back when for fleas Mine 646 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: last year. Early is a rookie. You know, he had 647 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: some in training camp, he was banged up. He would 648 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: always play through like practices. He didn't like to miss 649 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: any reps any time. Then early in his rookie year, 650 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: you know, he gave up a couple of plays early 651 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: in the season. He didn't break it all mentally, it 652 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: actually seemed to make him tougher. Never shifted to blame 653 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: anyone else. His toughness. Kyle Hamilton's toughness showed up really 654 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: to me before his talent that he okay, you knew 655 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: this guy was tough and that he wasn't going to 656 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: back down. Then then it was like, how quickly is 657 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: he going to show all the things he can do? 658 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: And once it clicked with him. By late last year, 659 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: to me, he wasn't playing like a rookie anymore. And 660 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: this year I mean yeah, I mean he's definitely a 661 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: pro bowler to me. All the things he can do 662 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: at the line, putting him into the line of scrimmage. 663 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: He wrecks having Yeah, he does. 664 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: I love seeing him play play close to a lot 665 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. I know he can play back and he 666 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: covers ground, but when I see him in the screen 667 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: before the ball snap, I'm looking for him to do something. 668 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: He's that that good. 669 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you love it. I think Trevor Lawrence and Traves 670 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: Etn and other offensive players around the league don't love 671 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: it quite as much when he's up there. But he 672 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: is a difference maker. So as we close out here, 673 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: we always I always love getting the emails. You can 674 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: email us with the lounge at Ravens at NFL dot net. 675 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: Kyle emailed us and said Lamar showed us all why 676 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: he should be number one in the MVP running where 677 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: the best team in the league. Let's go get that 678 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: round one by size him up. 679 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: Boys. 680 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: Ps, I'm a right ring size twelve, so appreciate that. 681 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: Kyle and we're gonna be back with you later this week. 682 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: As always, you can email us the lounges at Ravens 683 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: at NFL dot net. Check out the Ravens Press Pass feed. 684 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: That's where where all of our press conferences live, so 685 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: if you want to hear more from the players and coaches, 686 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 1: head over to the press Bass feed as well. Thanks 687 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,479 Speaker 1: for listening and we'll talk with you again this week.