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Speaker 1: beat the Thunder. The Pacers win the first finals game
Speaker 1: and Andy in twenty five years take a two to
Speaker 1: one lead with another game in Andy one sixteen to
Speaker 1: one oh seven. They did a better job of limiting
Speaker 1: shade at the free throw line. You only get to
Speaker 1: the line six times, nine of twenty from the floor.
Speaker 1: They did a great job on him, but still the
Speaker 1: Thunder had three guys with twenty or more points.
Speaker 2: But it was the bench of the Indiana Pacers that
Speaker 2: won this game.
Speaker 1: Benter Deck Mathern had his best game, twenty seven points,
Speaker 1: a career high two or three from the three point line,
Speaker 1: seven to eight from the free throw line. TJ McConnell
Speaker 1: came in and did what TJ McConnell normally does, and
Speaker 1: Obie Topping was flying high. That put back dump really
Speaker 1: energized the crowd. Joe, we're gonna start the U and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna pass it off the GP. How did
Speaker 1: the Pacers win this game?
Speaker 2: Man? Oho GP?
Speaker 1: They had that intensity that they needed, you know, especially
Speaker 1: from the bench. I thought, okay, see I played them
Speaker 1: in that first quarter, but when they made them subs mathering,
Speaker 1: TJ McCollum. They came in, rose the energy up to
Speaker 1: another level, took it to another level. And you look
Speaker 1: at Mattherin the way he played man, just being aggressive offensively,
Speaker 1: making plays, just being disruptive defensive. TJ. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many steals he got that led to points.
Speaker 1: And OKC was just so careless with the basketball. Is
Speaker 1: uncharacteristic of them tonight. But we gotta give we gotta
Speaker 1: give Indiana credit.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: They've been doing it all postseason, like we continue to say,
Speaker 1: and we continue to count them out, they continue to
Speaker 1: keep fighting, and tonight they pretty much, you know, had
Speaker 1: control of this basketball pretty much throughout the entire game.
Speaker 2: Chijmccamma had five steals tonight. GP.
Speaker 1: You watch watch this game in its entirety, and Indy
Speaker 1: out of the team. They go on the road and
Speaker 1: every series they won game one, they lost Game two
Speaker 1: in ok See. It was really a blowout, but they
Speaker 1: came come home. Normally come home, they normally lose game three,
Speaker 1: but tonight was different. They got off to a slow
Speaker 1: start in the first quarter, they pick it up, get
Speaker 1: forty points. They got forty points against the best defensive
Speaker 1: team in basketball in the second quarter, and then have
Speaker 1: a little lull in the third quarter. They pick it
Speaker 1: right back up in the fourth and go get thirty two.
Speaker 1: So those combined quarters, the second and the fourth they
Speaker 1: get seventy two points. What were they able to do
Speaker 1: tonight that calls in, that calls okay see, so much
Speaker 1: trouble in this ball game? Well, Shannon, what I really
Speaker 1: think is is that what Joe said was that they
Speaker 1: picked up their intensity of on defense. I think they
Speaker 1: were into a lot of players a lot more. I
Speaker 1: think they were into Shaye a lot more. Then Shade
Speaker 1: tried to take take it onto his hands and become
Speaker 1: one of them players where he wanted to prove that
Speaker 1: he can go instead of passing the basketball and getting
Speaker 1: it around and getting other players involved. So they picked
Speaker 1: up the defense and they did a great job. I
Speaker 1: think to me, where they lose basketball games, okay see,
Speaker 1: is when they get their out of their means, when
Speaker 1: they when they turn the ball over. When they turn
Speaker 1: the basketball over, they're not okay see, and then that
Speaker 1: takes away from their their defense because their lows get down.
Speaker 1: And then what the Indiana did was when they turned
Speaker 1: the ball over, they scored. They scored the basketball. When
Speaker 1: people turn the ball over and you score, that takes
Speaker 1: a lot of ump off of you. Then what they
Speaker 1: did was in the third quarter they try to neutralize it.
Speaker 1: They go up what five at the end of the third.
Speaker 1: But then what do the subs come and do for Indiana?
Speaker 1: They come and pick that energy back up. They picked
Speaker 1: the energy back up off the turnovers. And then it
Speaker 1: takes away from your game when you turn the basketball
Speaker 1: over and you scored you cause you would say, I
Speaker 1: think off turnover, off of turnovers, what I think they
Speaker 1: outscored him by twenty I think Indiana, I've scored them
Speaker 1: by almost twenty points, and that hurt them. And then
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, if you don't make
Speaker 1: free throws to get back in the game, if they
Speaker 1: make them free throws, this game becomes closer. And then
Speaker 1: when the Indiana comes down and put pressure on them
Speaker 1: to score the basketball. But if you don't score, if
Speaker 1: you don't hit these free throws, what happens. They come
Speaker 1: down there, be comfortable, they still up eight or nine points,
Speaker 1: and you lose a basketball game.
Speaker 2: And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: But you got to give a credit to Indiana for
Speaker 1: coming off the bench with their high energy and they
Speaker 1: take the game to them.
Speaker 2: They're at home. They took the game to him.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how Oklahoma's gonna come back, but
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna come back strong because they know
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to master your intensity because Indiana
Speaker 1: is not gonna come in here and just lay down
Speaker 1: right and you look at it. We talked about something
Speaker 1: the other night, Guys, we said shape. I said, man,
Speaker 1: when you come up that picking will double his ass,
Speaker 1: trap him. You see what they did tonight. They trapped
Speaker 1: his ass, Joe. They got turnedovers off that they tied
Speaker 1: him up, got jumped off. You gotta try something. You
Speaker 1: cannot let him play one on one. He's as good
Speaker 1: as one on one player as they as they have
Speaker 1: in the NBA. And you put that shoulder into him
Speaker 1: and get separation. Go ahead, GP. Who do you think? Who?
Speaker 2: Who? Who? Who? What team? Joe in you two and
Speaker 2: O Joe? When they don't win? What they saw a
Speaker 2: player and people do that to him all the time.
Speaker 2: What team is that?
Speaker 1: The Golden State Warriors when they get hurt that, yes,
Speaker 1: they are not affective basketball team. And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of teams got to understand one on one basketball
Speaker 1: players when they come up to pick a roll, get
Speaker 1: the ball out of their hand and make people who
Speaker 1: don't know what they do that's not normal doing that
Speaker 1: and handling the basketball and making big time plays, make
Speaker 1: them big time for make them make big time plays.
Speaker 2: And Oklahoma only has.
Speaker 1: One guy that can do that inside Shay, and that's
Speaker 1: way he's all the other basketball player that.
Speaker 2: Can do it. And what did they do.
Speaker 1: They let him score all the toys and they take
Speaker 1: Shay out and he goes nine for twenty and they
Speaker 1: lose a basketball game off the turnovers. But you know,
Speaker 1: I still think Oklahoma should be very really covenant because
Speaker 1: you're turning the ball over that many times, it's still
Speaker 1: in a basketball game. To win it, your covenant's gotta
Speaker 1: be hot. O. Joe looked at We looked at Okay.
Speaker 1: See what they did to Indy. Out of the first game,
Speaker 1: they turned them over twenty five times, they lost the game.
Speaker 1: Indiana found a way to get close in the fourth
Speaker 1: and they won it down to stretch.
Speaker 2: We watched the second game.
Speaker 1: I think they turned them over seventeen eighteen times and
Speaker 1: they won the ball game going away. This game, they
Speaker 1: only created fourteen turnovers and he ever did a better
Speaker 1: job of taking care of the basketball now and Halliburton
Speaker 1: he didn't have his best game handling the ball because
Speaker 1: Halliburton doesn't normally turn the ball over. He had two
Speaker 1: or three really careless, careless turnovers, like they picked him
Speaker 1: back at half court, which he normally doesn't do.
Speaker 2: What what do.
Speaker 1: You think OKC needs to do to make sure they
Speaker 1: don't go down three to one going back to OKC,
Speaker 1: because look they had three guys with twenty plus points. Again,
Speaker 1: Shay was not as efficient this game as he was
Speaker 1: the first of the second game.
Speaker 2: Remember he was like what level of twenty one?
Speaker 1: The second game he had thirty four to the first
Speaker 1: game he was really inefficient, had thirty eight, but you
Speaker 1: had Chad Hongren six to fifteen inefficient.
Speaker 2: They Alad shot.
Speaker 1: They shot the ball forty seven percent for the four
Speaker 1: They had twenty points from Chad, They got twenty six
Speaker 1: from Jalen Williams. They got twenty four from Shape. But
Speaker 1: their bitch didn't give up anything. Remember Joe Ojoe GP
Speaker 1: the last game their bitch. Remember remember Caruso what they
Speaker 1: gave them off the bench, the tide was flipped. You
Speaker 1: got twenty seven, You got forty nine points from Indiana's bench.
Speaker 2: Yoh Joe, what do you see?
Speaker 1: What did you like about what you saw from Indiana?
Speaker 1: And what you didn't like from Okay?
Speaker 2: See?
Speaker 3: Well, listen, Honestly, you know, I picked the Pacers to
Speaker 3: win the series, so I did what I saw from
Speaker 3: a Okay, see you like everything I.
Speaker 2: Saw from them?
Speaker 3: Listen, the Pacers just played to me, to me from
Speaker 3: based on my eyes and my little bit of knowledge
Speaker 3: of basketball that I've learned to date, the PACs tonight
Speaker 3: played the most complete game of the finals. They didn't
Speaker 3: wait until they was down. They didn't wait un till
Speaker 3: they was down, and such to the side the kick
Speaker 3: and gear. Defensively, what they did defensively getting the ball
Speaker 3: out of Shade's hands when coming off those picks, coming
Speaker 3: off those rolls, and forcing other people to make plays,
Speaker 3: I think that was key Defensively, what they were able
Speaker 3: to do. The goddamn bench was really the Stars. It
Speaker 3: wasn't Halliburton, it wasn't It wasn't them hard. It was
Speaker 3: what them boy and did off the bench. They got
Speaker 3: damn TJ. McConnell and young brother, I ain't hurt nobody
Speaker 3: named Benedict boys in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2: He git me, I ain't gonna a't gonna tell you
Speaker 2: he or that.
Speaker 4: But excuse me, excuse me if I put your last
Speaker 4: name Benedict, Did I say that right?
Speaker 3: Mathron Macrin mac Mastherin, Mathron okay, mathm.
Speaker 4: Well, young boy had twenty seven twenty seven. He was
Speaker 4: twenty seven poll and woar rebounds, one assayst a block.
Speaker 4: Listen he was he was a game score higher. He
Speaker 4: had zero phil he had zero fil GP.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh but listen.
Speaker 3: This wasn't This wasn't just like a heat checked shooting, right.
Speaker 3: This was playoff boys. I like that, letting him play too.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I've noticed something about it. I
Speaker 3: know something about him.
Speaker 2: Have a question. He doesn't get in foul trouble early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you noticed if when he gets in foul trouble early,
Speaker 1: it takes on his aggressive miss away from him. He's
Speaker 1: not the same player GP, Joe and Joe, He's not
Speaker 1: the same tonight. He stayed out of foul trouble. He
Speaker 1: stayed aggressive from the Carl out put him in the game.
Speaker 1: He was aggressive for the entirety of the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Hey, and when you look at Halliburg, look how he
Speaker 1: started the game. I know they didn't win the first quarter,
Speaker 1: but he was in that first court he was all
Speaker 1: your aggressive. We talked about his aggressiveness and started the game.
Speaker 1: He wasn't passing, he was looking for his shot, he
Speaker 1: was getting to the cup. He was getting in the
Speaker 1: paint calls and having and being disruptive and in the
Speaker 1: okay sees defense and making plays and GP.
Speaker 2: You know this.
Speaker 1: When you got a team shooting fifty one percent from
Speaker 1: the field, Hell, it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be hard to be then time it's like, okay.
Speaker 1: See, it's like their defense has kind of went into
Speaker 1: a like a lapster where they can't get stops. It's
Speaker 1: hard for him to get stopped, so it's hard for
Speaker 1: them to get out and get points. So if you're
Speaker 1: playing in this high scoring game like this, one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixteen points for the Pacers, this is the pace
Speaker 1: they won't they won't.
Speaker 2: They won't it high scoring.
Speaker 1: Like you know what the problem is, Joe, is that
Speaker 1: all of their players are aggressive. That's probably it's not
Speaker 1: just one guy too, three guys aggressive. It's coming out
Speaker 1: being aggressive and against a great defensive team.
Speaker 2: What do you have to do to a great defense team?
Speaker 2: Attack them? You attack every time, and all of them
Speaker 2: are attacking.
Speaker 1: And then on the other end, they're being aggressive more
Speaker 1: and they don't here a lot of them getting three
Speaker 1: and four files. Then they here a sub and then
Speaker 1: Carlisle sub bring in somebody else and everybody's comfortable. When
Speaker 1: you get a team that's comfortable and that can match you,
Speaker 1: and this Indiana team can match Oklahoma, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: beat them.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna beat them.
Speaker 1: If you let them be comfortable and you don't and
Speaker 1: they don't turn the ball over and they make you
Speaker 1: turn the ball over and get you out of your game,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna beat them, especially at home. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna bet the Indiana team that can be more aggressive
Speaker 1: and have the energy coming in and making shots and
Speaker 1: doing things, they're not gonna be And you look.
Speaker 2: You look at it. They had.
Speaker 1: I mean the guys, the Rick Carlisle is doing a
Speaker 1: great job with minutes Siakam thirty two minutes, Nismith's twenty
Speaker 1: two minutes, turn of thirty minutes, nim Har thirty three minutes,
Speaker 1: Halliburton thirty six minutes, Obi Topping twenty eight minutes, McConnell
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, Mappern twenty two minutes, Shepherd eighteen minutes. You see, hey,
Speaker 1: give me everything you got while you out there, and
Speaker 1: when you get tired, put your hands up and I'll
Speaker 1: put somebody else in the game.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and they don't let up.
Speaker 1: No let up. And like you said, they're being aggressive.
Speaker 1: They know it's become very difficult.
Speaker 2: Guys. We know, okay see has a great defense.
Speaker 1: You gotta stay out of half court because if you
Speaker 1: let those guys because they got tremendous wing defenders, everybody
Speaker 1: is scrapping. Everybody got hands. You look at Wallace, you
Speaker 1: look at Dork, you look at Caruso, Isaiah, Joe Wiggins.
Speaker 1: All those guys can sit in the chair and slide
Speaker 1: multiple times. So they're doing a great job trying to
Speaker 1: get points in transition, so they can't set up. I
Speaker 1: love what I saw. Look, Indiana, everybody has to roll
Speaker 1: them off. I mean, they were the over. They were
Speaker 1: like one of the biggest favorites, ok see, word to
Speaker 1: win the finals that we've had in a very very
Speaker 1: long time. And now I say, guess what. We weren't
Speaker 1: favored against Milwaukee. We weren't favored against the Cleveland. We
Speaker 1: weren't favored against the Knicks, so we weren't So we're
Speaker 1: not gonna be favorite.
Speaker 2: So guess what we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna have one of the If they weren't to win this,
Speaker 1: this would be one of the most improbable runs. And
Speaker 1: when you figure they're doing it without a super star player,
Speaker 1: when was the last time somebody won the finals without
Speaker 1: a super star player?
Speaker 2: Wait? Wait, whoa whoa? Hold on? Hold on, they're saying.
Speaker 3: You're saying they don't have a superstar player, but they
Speaker 3: don't player that's playing like a superstar and it's having
Speaker 3: a historic playoff run.
Speaker 1: No, no, making shots doesn't make you a superstar, jo Ojo,
Speaker 1: having Burton is not a superstar. Hold on, Joe, I
Speaker 1: agree with that. He's not a superstar. He's a player.
Speaker 1: He's a good basketball player, but he's not a superstar.
Speaker 1: You might be spright, Ojo. He's playing like a superstar. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's playing like that right now. He's stepping up to
Speaker 1: the game because I think in my mind he's an
Speaker 1: all around complete point guard.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, everything happens.
Speaker 1: He thinks getting his players into it first, and then
Speaker 1: he does everything and then he has score, you know,
Speaker 1: but he has to you know.
Speaker 2: But he's not that that player.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say go get him and put
Speaker 1: him on the team and then I think I can
Speaker 1: get forty from him every night. That's not But he
Speaker 1: is playing like a superstar right now. I will see that.
Speaker 2: Right like that. Think about it.
Speaker 3: We had that conversation before, not long ago. Remember, remember
Speaker 3: we talked about superstar. Star was the first thing I say, Listen,
Speaker 3: he's a star. He's a star. But the way he's
Speaker 3: playing in this playoffs, coming up in clutch moments for
Speaker 3: the Pacers, like he's a goddamn superstar. And it's just
Speaker 3: based on what I've seen right now, you know them
Speaker 3: the piggyback off of GP saying he just started playing
Speaker 3: like a superstar in the most opportune moments for the
Speaker 3: Pacers and when they win the serious Like I told
Speaker 3: you all, what's gonna happen, Joe, I'm just gonna sleek
Speaker 3: that in there. Joe, you owe me one hundred dollars two.
Speaker 2: I want to listen.
Speaker 5: Listen, money money out of Site called the fight.
Speaker 2: I don't want to listen. He a gp G.
Speaker 3: Listen, so listen the last series. You know, obviously the
Speaker 3: next to them win. So I was upset. So Joe
Speaker 3: and I we got a little bet. So yeah, on
Speaker 3: each game, we got one hundred dollars bet on each game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't want to so you have two
Speaker 2: hundred and Joe went on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you up on, honey, right the right, Joe
Speaker 1: Joe cash Hally play heroics have earned him a new
Speaker 1: nickname in the Basketball Reference. His name now is gp
Speaker 1: O Joe and Joe Tyrese. The moment Halliburton, the moment,
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: Like it.
Speaker 1: In the moment, he'll get what he has to in
Speaker 1: the moment, he'll make a big shot.
Speaker 2: At that moment. He might not be playing well at
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when the omen come and the lights shine on him,
Speaker 1: he always performs.
Speaker 2: So I would give him that that that that nick
Speaker 2: name that I like it.
Speaker 1: I like what Joe, I like what you said that
Speaker 1: he would he know, he went to the store and
Speaker 1: he was just hey, he just went didn't do nothing. Nah,
Speaker 1: tryal some ishje the shirt, Hey, hey how much the shoes?
Speaker 1: I be tryal something tonight he came out. He wasn't
Speaker 1: looking to just pass the ball of.
Speaker 2: A No you do it?
Speaker 1: Hey A Miles Turner, Hey nim Hard No, no, you
Speaker 1: you the guy. You see when he's aggressive, when he's
Speaker 1: in the twenties and he has a level of sist.
Speaker 1: So now he's giving you his twenty. Now you got
Speaker 1: a level assist. You know, a couple of those gonna
Speaker 1: have to be off threes. So now he's getting everybody
Speaker 1: involved and he's involved. They can definitely win this series
Speaker 1: if he's going to play like that.
Speaker 2: But we shouldn't have to have like damn had it?
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, Why we got to tell you every
Speaker 1: other game you need to be aggressive?
Speaker 2: That should be understood.
Speaker 1: The game is so much easier for you guys when
Speaker 1: you do what your and I understand GP he's a
Speaker 1: pass first point guard.
Speaker 2: He's not. First of all, he's a true point guard.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of guys masquerading, and they're masquerading
Speaker 1: his points, but they're really two guards, Russard and Luca.
Speaker 1: Those are really twos masquerading your points. Shenny, Shenny in
Speaker 1: the NBA, tell me what had what did all the
Speaker 1: point guards play? In this NBA right now, the point guards,
Speaker 1: what did they play in college? The two guard two? Yes,
Speaker 1: eary toward one. And that's why I hate when people
Speaker 1: come to my area and talk the ball. Oh he's
Speaker 1: one of the greatest point guard.
Speaker 2: No, you not.
Speaker 1: He's a two masquerading of the point out of my lane.
Speaker 2: Man. You when I was playing, man were true point guards?
Speaker 1: Man? You know the c mvds are twos. I watched
Speaker 1: him in college play the two. They was converted to
Speaker 1: a one.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, He is true. It's only
Speaker 2: two point guards.
Speaker 1: And he even get right at and that's that's uh,
Speaker 1: Chris Paul and him, they're a true point guards look
Speaker 1: to pass the ball and get people better and then
Speaker 1: they come and do. But Allen Bird, he does, he
Speaker 1: does everything. He rebounds the basketball. Yeah, he makes his
Speaker 1: sist and then he scores when he hass to You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and that that's a point guard
Speaker 1: to me, he was a.
Speaker 2: Rebound short of a triple double. He was a joe.
Speaker 1: He was a rebound short of a triple double. Twenty
Speaker 1: two points a level assists, not rebounds, excuse me, not rebounds.
Speaker 1: One rebound short of a triple double.
Speaker 2: Joe, that's gp.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you glad we agree on what we talked
Speaker 3: about earlier about Halliburton being a star and not a superstar.
Speaker 3: What do you need to see from him? What do
Speaker 3: you need to see from him for him to be
Speaker 3: a superstar in your eyes? What else does he have
Speaker 3: to do? Ently?
Speaker 2: But what team he's on? To me?
Speaker 1: For you to be a superstar nowadays in this era,
Speaker 1: and Joe know that, I think you would have to
Speaker 1: be You have.
Speaker 2: To be more of a score.
Speaker 1: You have to be more of dominant, you know, And
Speaker 1: he's not that type of basketball player.
Speaker 2: So what it is is is that now.
Speaker 1: People have to say you're a superstar because of what
Speaker 1: his production is every night. Now he comes and get
Speaker 1: a triple double and average a triple double for the year.
Speaker 2: Now you become a superstar and.
Speaker 1: Your team is winging on a consistent basis and doing
Speaker 1: the things that.
Speaker 2: You do, then you got to do it. But as Joe, no,
Speaker 2: you gotta be down to be a superstar. That's it.
Speaker 1: You gotta They gotta just start saying Rick condition, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta get recognition, O Joe, how much money you
Speaker 1: paying to go see Halliburton.
Speaker 2: I don't do that. I don't do that at GP. Joe,
Speaker 2: you gonna tell him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but listen, that is true, Oaks, who's coming every night?
Speaker 1: Just say I'm gonna pay a thousand and two three
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to come see how.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's not that's not a Pacers fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of Pacers fans. Because but where you go.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to, uh, you gotta go to what thirty?
Speaker 1: But you got forty one games on the road, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to thirty. You gotta go to thirty some
Speaker 1: other six. You gotta go to like twenty nine or whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, team's in to twenty nine, thirtyeen. You gotta
Speaker 1: go twenty nine other cities and see who comes and
Speaker 1: pay that money. Or he's gonna be the man in Indiana. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's where he plays at. He's perfect for them that
Speaker 1: he's perfect Indiana And we're not trying to minimize I
Speaker 1: like you know what, I like that nickname. That nickname,
Speaker 1: the moment is very remarktable. He should run with that. Hey,
Speaker 1: I put that on my shoes. I'm put a As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I'm changing my social media I'm
Speaker 1: the moment. You see what did with the truth, See
Speaker 1: what Kobe did with Mamba shot.
Speaker 2: Hey, don't nobody calls Shaquil shaquillo.
Speaker 1: He shot he the deep well, the big Aristotle, the
Speaker 1: big Chamber of decse everything. Hey, look, we gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta give any out of their credit. Though, Man, they
Speaker 1: they offense is fueled. You know, it's been fueled by
Speaker 1: that defense. The way they pick up full court. They've
Speaker 1: done it the whole postseason. They've been disruptive. And I
Speaker 1: think that's the most gratifying thing for me when I
Speaker 1: watch him play, because even when they down GP, they
Speaker 1: still picking up ninety four feet, They picking up ninety
Speaker 1: four feet. They gonna weigh you down. They're gonna And
Speaker 1: I like the fact that they switched up the covertes today. Life, Man,
Speaker 1: get shade the state of guy, make him, make him
Speaker 1: think about it, because now when he come off that
Speaker 1: pig and roll GP, now he like, Okay, damn, are
Speaker 1: they trapping?
Speaker 2: Are they gonna get? Are they gonna are they gonna
Speaker 2: be in a drop? What they're gonna be?
Speaker 1: And so now he's kind of second guessing himself on
Speaker 1: how to make his moves and I thought it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was turning back.
Speaker 1: Hey if he turned his back, Hey, the guy that
Speaker 1: he turned his back to go to it. But or
Speaker 1: they got four guys that do that, and they're pressuring
Speaker 1: and they're what they're doing is they're they're trading off
Speaker 1: guard and they and they keeping the keeping pressure on him.
Speaker 1: And now what that does to Shay is that he
Speaker 1: starts saying, I can't get my game off, can't get
Speaker 1: my game off.
Speaker 2: To what he do.
Speaker 1: He started, he started forcing things president to click. He
Speaker 1: tried to start to go by he he won't even
Speaker 1: give up the ball. If the double come, he'll keeping it.
Speaker 1: Then they're start putting their hands in there and sticking
Speaker 1: them and and he and he and he turned the
Speaker 1: ball of. But the one thing that's killing it the
Speaker 1: referees are not calling that. They ain't nothing to play right.
Speaker 1: So that's hurting too because he usually gets them files.
Speaker 1: But now I give him that even when he goes
Speaker 1: to the bucket and they bumpany they're not calling that.
Speaker 2: And he's taking files.
Speaker 1: He's taking shots and God saying like it's going to
Speaker 1: be an ad one. But them balls are just saying
Speaker 1: them referees are saying no play this is what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do.
Speaker 2: That's making this.
Speaker 1: Game very hard. Right now, we've given okay, see, guys
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. I think we need to give
Speaker 1: them hard. We need to give Niee Smith, we need
Speaker 1: to give Maprick, we need to give Shepherd. We need
Speaker 1: to give those guys credit because they're doing, as you said,
Speaker 1: they're doing an unbelievable job. Each guy is a little different.
Speaker 1: Each guy has a different body type and they're playing
Speaker 1: him different ways, so he's not getting used to any
Speaker 1: one person. Knee Smith got in four minute, nim Hard
Speaker 1: to take him, and now Maverick comes in, Mathren takes him,
Speaker 1: and then a Shepherd comes in. He'll deal with it. Hey,
Speaker 1: Hey see y'all. Hey look once again.
Speaker 2: He turns back.
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all come because he's not one of these point
Speaker 1: guards like a Luca Lebron. That's really that. He goes
Speaker 1: to the basket. He's looking to kick out for three.
Speaker 1: He's looking to get the ball up to the rim.
Speaker 1: So hey come from behind, swat that. How many times
Speaker 1: did a Siakam get it down? How many times did
Speaker 1: the Miles Turner? So I think we need to give
Speaker 1: a rightfully so okay see, we know what they are defensively,
Speaker 1: but I think we need to give the Pacers because
Speaker 1: they're doing an unbelievable job.
Speaker 2: What twenty points in the.
Speaker 1: Third they came up twenty, hold up fifteen, they get
Speaker 1: fifteen points in the fourth quarter, twenty eight points in
Speaker 1: the second quarter, So that's forty three points over two quarters.
Speaker 1: And look at the pacers, man, they had eleven blocks, yes,
Speaker 1: eleven blocks. So they lets you know, they contest and everything.
Speaker 1: They're very aggressive and they making it tough for okay see, man,
Speaker 1: I love to see you guys. This is has This
Speaker 1: has been a pretty good series if you ask me,
Speaker 1: especially from a defensive standpoint, from what Indiana is trying
Speaker 1: to impose their will, feeding off their crowd.
Speaker 2: Tonight.
Speaker 1: It looked amazing in there, and you know they was
Speaker 1: able to come up come away with the victory. So okay, see,
Speaker 1: you gotta get back to the drawing board, man. They
Speaker 1: gotta come out with much more energy and be able
Speaker 1: to sustain. Hey, look, gp in the fourth quarter, I look,
Speaker 1: with four five minutes left, everybody for okay see, was
Speaker 1: grabbing their shorts, bent through grabbing their shorts.
Speaker 2: They were dead down tied, and that's what you don't want.
Speaker 1: They gonna pressure you all game and hopefully you die
Speaker 1: toward the end. I thought toward the end it was
Speaker 1: a tail tale because they started missing free throws. I
Speaker 1: was eighteen points. I was Joe eighteen points. Okay, Se
Speaker 1: scored eighteen points, not fifteen in the fourth quarter. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: jimpie Joe. This is just like a prize fighter. If
Speaker 1: you get beat on for twelve and fifteen rounds and
Speaker 1: keep knocking knocking, what are you gonna do? They're gonna
Speaker 1: get out And then by the time it comes to
Speaker 1: the end of the the end of the game, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be get tired and you're gonna food around and
Speaker 1: get knocked out. You see what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: just the way game bo and that's what Indiana is doing.
Speaker 1: And Shan and Shannon you said it. They're just we
Speaker 1: gotta give credit really the car Lot because his game plan,
Speaker 1: that's doing what he's doing. He's selling them double. He's
Speaker 1: telling them come behind and block shots. And then what
Speaker 1: he do he started he saw swing. He said, now
Speaker 1: you take it. You get ten minutes, you pressure in,
Speaker 1: you dog gehime out for three minutes. Now you go
Speaker 1: get you for three more minutes. Now you go get
Speaker 1: him for three more minutes.
Speaker 2: And what they're doing is like a prize fighter. They're
Speaker 2: wearing you down.
Speaker 1: When we used to see frighters, man, if they jabbed
Speaker 1: you and jabs were jabs were kept it away, What
Speaker 1: did you do?
Speaker 2: You got? They got frustrated.
Speaker 1: Bus just start getting frustrated because you getting that hit
Speaker 1: all toe up, you know, get this all beat down.
Speaker 1: But they doing this is they beating his body down
Speaker 1: and he's trying to force things now and it's not working.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to come the game plan where they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to kick the ball and the other people
Speaker 1: aren't gonna have to produce that's you because they're not
Speaker 1: gonna let Shay play the game. He's a NBC, he's
Speaker 1: a superstar and he hurts you. Yeah, what what do
Speaker 1: I do? I take that type of basketball player out
Speaker 1: of the game. And once they do that, they're gonna
Speaker 1: win games like this And and Oklahoma City is gonna
Speaker 1: have to get a.
Speaker 2: Game playing a couple something different for game four. Hey listen.
Speaker 3: And say young GP and uh and uh and Joe, listen,
Speaker 3: I think this is the rest of the series. She
Speaker 3: is gonna have to pick his spots. He's gonna have
Speaker 3: to choose the spots and change his game a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe you can't come out and be as
Speaker 3: a curtive as you like to be. You know, you
Speaker 3: know you're not gonna give those files, So you got
Speaker 3: to pick and choose and spurts when to take those
Speaker 3: shots when the drive, when they try to create those files.
Speaker 5: You know, when to get to your admittee when they
Speaker 5: put the ball on the floor, when they.
Speaker 2: Kick it out.
Speaker 3: If they trap you the way they are trapping you,
Speaker 3: maybe you have to your approach to the game in
Speaker 3: general has to be completely different and getting everybody else
Speaker 3: involved first, and then picking your your shots and your
Speaker 3: chances and win, to be assertive and hoping, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys can win on the defense end. You know,
Speaker 3: maybe you know, getting some easy boxing, easy buckets to
Speaker 3: get yourself in rhythm, you know. But outside of that,
Speaker 3: I really don't see the Pacers coming up off his
Speaker 3: lead the way it is.
Speaker 2: We already up.
Speaker 3: And I told y'all before the series started that the
Speaker 3: Pacer was probably going to win this series because the
Speaker 3: rest of the world had crowned the Thunder the NBA
Speaker 3: champions already, and this is just what I expected to happen.
Speaker 1: Oh, So what I think what Shay has to do
Speaker 1: is is he has to get rid of the ball
Speaker 1: a little sooner.
Speaker 2: But he's got to start moving to get rid.
Speaker 1: Of the ball, start cutting on him a little bit
Speaker 1: and get easier buckets, because what he wants to do
Speaker 1: is he wants an eye sold.
Speaker 2: He wants you one.
Speaker 1: He wants you one on one. If he gets you
Speaker 1: one on one, you're done. But now they're doing him. Man,
Speaker 1: they understand that, and I go again in the Carlisle.
Speaker 1: He understands that this kid is very good one on
Speaker 1: one basketball player by yourself, so he doesn't want him
Speaker 1: to play by himself.
Speaker 2: A lot of coaches don't feel don't.
Speaker 1: Understand that, they let your players just play in this
Speaker 1: era's too good.
Speaker 2: But he play like that.
Speaker 1: So he's not let that happen. And he's understanding. And look,
Speaker 1: he's getting rewarded with it. He's getting wins and his
Speaker 1: players are getting a big lot of confidence.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And the Oklahoma City has got to win Game four
Speaker 1: or this is Oh, I don't seem eating them three
Speaker 1: in a row.
Speaker 2: GP. You said something very interesting.
Speaker 1: You say he needs to get some easier baskets like
Speaker 1: cut without the basketball.
Speaker 2: But that's not his game. That's Curry's game.
Speaker 1: They're not a whole There are not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of guards, They're not a whole lot of players. Because
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do something that i
Speaker 1: haven't been doing, and I'm gonna do it in the
Speaker 1: biggest game of the biggest games of my life. That's
Speaker 1: not what he does. See what makes Steph so hard.
Speaker 1: Steph can handle the ball, and he's also great. He's
Speaker 1: more dangerous when he does not have the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if you let your guard down for just a second,
Speaker 1: a three ball is going up. It is probably gonna
Speaker 1: hurt you. See, that's not Shade like you said, Shaye
Speaker 1: wants the ball. He wants to play one on one.
Speaker 1: He gonna put that chick that showed it in your chest,
Speaker 1: create separation and then get the shot off. Well, if
Speaker 1: you let him play one on one, you can't stop
Speaker 1: that because they're not gonna call him for a charge
Speaker 1: because he was moving. He was dislodging Nise Mill, he
Speaker 1: was dislodging them hard, so they're not gonna call that.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take the ball out of his hands now.
Speaker 1: If he starts moving without the ball, I'll adjust after that,
Speaker 1: but I'm not letting him play one on one against
Speaker 1: them with nobody. Hey, Hey, TPZ, I'm curious. I'm curious
Speaker 1: to hear what you think. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the lineup change with Homerids at the five, because you
Speaker 1: know Hartenstein, like tonight, he was kind of non existent,
Speaker 1: you know, if you ask me, so, what do you
Speaker 1: think about the lineup change with them just going with
Speaker 1: one big I know they probably don't want Hungris playing
Speaker 1: against Pascal Siakam at the four, but I just feel like, defensively, man,
Speaker 1: they gotta they gotta clog up the paint a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, be a little more tough down there and
Speaker 1: being able to reback, get one shot, rebound, or even
Speaker 1: get second chance shots on the offensive then, because I
Speaker 1: feel like that's one area that's kind of you You
Speaker 1: absolutely right me. I wouldn't switching. I'll keep it hung
Speaker 1: at the four and get my big buy in there.
Speaker 1: But what I would do, Joe, I would punish uh
Speaker 1: Indiana on the other end by trying to go into
Speaker 1: him and make it, make it a physical gay and
Speaker 1: go without in and out with him. That's why it's
Speaker 1: just messing up because they can't match up with them
Speaker 1: like that and that hurt them, and that he's got
Speaker 1: to he's got to perform. I don't care that mediocre game.
Speaker 1: He's got to be big every game. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that is what he's doing. He's gotta be big
Speaker 1: every game. I wouldn't switch my lineup. I would have
Speaker 1: still been with him, getting rebounds, getting things over, being
Speaker 1: aggressive and keeping that in and then when they sub,
Speaker 1: I would sub with them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And that's just the way
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 1: And I think that the lineup change wasn't was not
Speaker 1: a good one. I would have stayed with my big
Speaker 1: men and punished him inside, get rebounds, and keep myself
Speaker 1: in the basketball game. And you're right, Joe, that was
Speaker 1: a big difference to me. I've seen that, and I
Speaker 1: said that's not gonna work because they don't match up
Speaker 1: with him very well. Hey, Indiana, getting a lot of
Speaker 1: layups guys on the n You know what I think happened, Joe.
Speaker 1: I think I thought I think Dag saw what Cleveland Cleveland,
Speaker 1: two bigs got blown out. The Knicks played two bigs
Speaker 1: and and so he's like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make the adjustment because you see with with Mobley and
Speaker 1: and and what's the big Allen, Jared Allen, two bigs
Speaker 1: they lose for one call Anthony Towns of Mitchell Robinson.
Speaker 1: So he's looking, he's thinking that, like, hold on, none
Speaker 1: of my guys. First of all, Hartenstein is not an
Speaker 1: offensive weapon. So he's only gonna get floaters and possibly
Speaker 1: put backs. Hold on, See how come held his own
Speaker 1: against cat, He held his own against Evan Mobley. Chill
Speaker 1: ain't got that gonna play with the basket. He's gonna
Speaker 1: play out there. They can't they can't guard see you
Speaker 1: see that's the difference.
Speaker 2: They can't guard him. They're too big for that.
Speaker 1: This big guy, I'll just put him on Turner and
Speaker 1: then we'll have it. We'll equalize it the things. Soon
Speaker 1: as Turner goes out the game, I do it. Even
Speaker 1: with two big men, you still have to attack them
Speaker 1: the two. I don't think the Knicks big men are
Speaker 1: that good. Only Towns. That's the only way I think.
Speaker 1: And then Cleveland, Mobley and Allen didn't have a good
Speaker 1: series period, you know what I'm And they started off
Speaker 1: hurt from the get when where you know, they were
Speaker 1: already hurt. So that was that was just a little different.
Speaker 1: I think if Cleveland would have been a little healthier,
Speaker 1: they would have been cool and they would have did it.
Speaker 1: But with this right here, I think, you don't change
Speaker 1: your your style when you've been going with it all year.
Speaker 1: You don't change your style. You stick with it and
Speaker 1: go and knock people down. And I just think that
Speaker 1: they got to equalize you when they sub they suck, Joe,
Speaker 1: you know it. You you people when they when they suck,
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta do that. And that's just the way
Speaker 1: it goes. And I just think Oklahoma is just getting
Speaker 1: out played right now. Just there, y'all just gotta understand
Speaker 1: they're just getting out played. We can't give giving them
Speaker 1: no excuse. They're just getting out.
Speaker 5: Play, you know what, you know, a GP, Joe and Uncle.
Speaker 3: Not only are they getting out played, but Oklahoma's office
Speaker 3: is making it easier for Indiana.
Speaker 5: Too with the turnovers absolute turnovers, you know too.
Speaker 3: And also I forgot, I forgot when I said when
Speaker 3: about okay, see having those bigsact down on the court. Obviously, Ship,
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Ship is really no threat defensive he
Speaker 3: outside of length and height and then herd and side.
Speaker 1: He's a real protector. He's not a he's not an
Speaker 1: own ball defender. Their own ball defenders are the wing players,
Speaker 1: and they got a plethora of those. And because Chad
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough bricks in his back pocket, he's, y'all
Speaker 1: gonna play with his back to the basket.
Speaker 2: See, y'all, come is under no threat at all. He's
Speaker 2: Myles Turner. Miles Turner can play Chad Hongreen.
Speaker 1: He can play him on the wing, or he can
Speaker 1: play him down low, because he's no threat. Only on
Speaker 1: the wing is he a threat. And so Hartenstein is
Speaker 1: only looking to get loose balls. He's gonna rebound, he's
Speaker 1: gonna give you second chance points. But he's not an offici.
Speaker 1: So they're not even worried about him, y'all. So now,
Speaker 1: but what you do is that you become smaller. You
Speaker 1: don't give yourself, you don't give yourself second chance opportunities.
Speaker 1: You don't give yourself a rebounding, you don't give yourself
Speaker 1: a defensive prowess, because look, you got enough defense on
Speaker 1: if you got lou Dort, you got Jaylen Williams and
Speaker 1: Shade Shae was one two and steals. We know what
Speaker 1: lou Dort is even all defensive player. We know what
Speaker 1: Jayalen Williams is even all defensive player. You got plenty
Speaker 1: of defense. Why would you ever do that when you
Speaker 1: got you won sixty eight games with that big lineup,
Speaker 1: telling you what never and Shanney, you're saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I would have never changed my lineup.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make them change my lineup of what
Speaker 1: I've done all year. I won sixty eight games. I
Speaker 1: don't care what nobody's say with that lineup. So you
Speaker 1: don't do it, And then I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to say nothing about the light. The light
Speaker 1: to ask, but you don't know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to say nothing. Well he's too light, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It ain't gonna work that way, man.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, y'all, you don't change because I
Speaker 1: can't do what you've been doing. Gp O, Choe and Joe.
Speaker 1: I can make an adjustment. Once I see what you're doing.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna adjust before I even get to
Speaker 1: the damn game. Damn, I'm making adjustments when I don't
Speaker 1: need to. If if if, if, I'm getting killed by
Speaker 1: their smaller lineups with that, because he had the problem
Speaker 1: is this is what Golden State got a lot of
Speaker 1: teams to do. They Oh, I'm taking my bigs off
Speaker 1: the court. No, y'all need to keep y'all bigs on
Speaker 1: the court and punish them down low, give somebody to
Speaker 1: play with their back to the basket and punish Draymond
Speaker 1: or punish the punish Clay. But when you try to
Speaker 1: go small this and that's what they wanted you to do.
Speaker 1: They wanted you to take your big out. And now
Speaker 1: Draymond's playing the five. You got iggy, and you got
Speaker 1: all those little guys running around. That's not how you play.
Speaker 1: And you play how you play, let them play how
Speaker 1: you play, and didn't make adjustments accordingly.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Shannon Ojo just said about Golden State about you was
Speaker 1: trying to adjust.
Speaker 2: What did Minnesota do to.
Speaker 1: Minnesota kept their digs and then kill them on that
Speaker 1: small lineup and went, Adam. You you you've seen Randall.
Speaker 1: He averaged third, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: they picked the big boy that came from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Adams. They were killing them. They couldn't get.
Speaker 1: A rebound, you know what I'm saying, And it was bad.
Speaker 1: And then Oklahoma said doing the same thing. Right now,
Speaker 1: they're getting one and done and they ain't getting no rebounds.
Speaker 2: They're doing anything that's her.
Speaker 1: I think, hey, look when you when you look at
Speaker 1: the intangibles that Hartenstein brings, like he says, great picks
Speaker 1: are coach or yeavy. He was saying he will lay
Speaker 1: ward on them game, roll to the basket and get dunk.
Speaker 2: Well, look when he.
Speaker 1: Rolled to the basket, even if he ain't got the
Speaker 1: little floater, he makes great decisions by spreading out for
Speaker 1: threes or hitting hungers for a live dunk or something like. Man,
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like they at least need
Speaker 1: to even try to go back to it and look,
Speaker 1: if it don't work in the first five or seven minutes, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got but like you say, we won sixty eight
Speaker 1: games off that.
Speaker 2: Why are we changing when we're the best team the
Speaker 2: whole time? Season. I never understand he Joe GP.
Speaker 5: I hear y'all, uncle, I hear you too.
Speaker 3: But but I think they they made that change in
Speaker 3: that lineup something because Hard and Stegn they understand. Listen, Okay,
Speaker 3: getting a few boards or getting a few put backs
Speaker 3: or getting a few alleys, you know, coming off picks
Speaker 3: and rolls and what or not, he's still a liability
Speaker 3: on defense.
Speaker 2: He's a liability.
Speaker 3: And the way them goddamn paces transition when they do
Speaker 3: grabbing boys off the court, they going up and down
Speaker 3: and then it's like it's got damn fohone goddamn.
Speaker 1: Five and they understand that chability.
Speaker 2: He ain't that much liability now. Turner in the game too.
Speaker 2: All he gotta do is run, get down, get down
Speaker 2: the flow. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm just justing he ain't that much liability. He gotta
Speaker 1: get down the flock, like we said, he done played
Speaker 1: all year like this, and O Joe, you gotta understand,
Speaker 1: it's only seven games left, baby, It's only.
Speaker 2: Seven games left. Baby. All you gotta do is go
Speaker 2: in there and get busy, and y'all only gotta win, funk,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And that's it.
Speaker 1: You gotta suck it up during this time. Man, to me,
Speaker 1: suck it up. You gotta be able to adjust to
Speaker 1: everything that's gonna happen. And with this big dude, I
Speaker 1: agree with Joe. He brings too much to their table.
Speaker 1: He brings much. He brings too much, picks, he brings enough,
Speaker 1: getting making making people all two shots. He rolled it
Speaker 1: to the basket. And if he doing that and not
Speaker 1: stopping it, then who's gonna make adjusting? They are, They're
Speaker 1: gonna start making adjustments. You know what I'm saying. Don't
Speaker 1: just come in the game and say, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: looked the film for two three days. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: change my lineup? Man?
Speaker 2: What ain't god? Man, I don't get it's one one
Speaker 2: O Joe? What's one to one? Man? What are you
Speaker 2: not losing? Two?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Even if you in a panic, to me, when you
Speaker 1: change your lineup, that's a panic. Just speak with what
Speaker 1: you got and see what happens. And poor he gonna
Speaker 1: go back to his lineup.
Speaker 2: No, he's not. No, he's not gp because he me
Speaker 2: and Joe talked about this game one.
Speaker 1: He started that Because I was looking at the lineup,
Speaker 1: I was like, why is Wallace and say what he
Speaker 1: gave he started this game one. He took Hard and
Speaker 1: Stein out of the starting lineup and put Wallace in.
Speaker 1: Joe and that we talked about this. I was like, Joe,
Speaker 1: I just don't understand that I'm gonna make an adjustment
Speaker 1: when I need to.
Speaker 2: If my car's.
Speaker 1: Running fine, I'm not gonna take it to the shop
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, change the transmission.
Speaker 2: What the car go, Joe, Hey GP, I'm going along good.
Speaker 2: I don't need It's not that.
Speaker 1: A is not grinding. I can back up, I can
Speaker 1: go forward. Why would I go to the mechanics they
Speaker 1: tried to transmission when there's nothing wrong with a perfectly
Speaker 1: good car. You won sixty eight games, you got the MVP,
Speaker 1: you got one of the top defensive teams in basketball
Speaker 1: with the big lineup, and in the most important series
Speaker 1: of the OKC under Dagnaw, you make this change.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Look, it could still work out, but I look, I
Speaker 1: would I'm gonna make an adjustment when I need to
Speaker 1: make an adjustment. And I don't think they needed to
Speaker 1: make an adjustment. I agree, Man, most points scrawled the
Speaker 1: bench in an NBA Finals game. Sam Cassell has the
Speaker 1: record in nineteen ninety five. In game two, he had
Speaker 1: thirty one Downtown Freddie Brown the SuperSonics now the OKC Thunder.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy eight, Game one, he had thirty Bennadeck
Speaker 1: Mathren Pacers twenty twenty five. Game three he had twenty seven,
Speaker 1: Jason Terry Dallas Mavericks twenty eleven, Game six, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: and Manu Ginobili two thousand and seven, Game four, twenty seven.
Speaker 1: So Benedict Mathern had won a game. It's his playoff
Speaker 1: career high, and he picked a great time to have it.
Speaker 1: And he looked good too. Man, he looked, Damn Joe.
Speaker 2: Jump on the bandwagon that Joe, don't do that. Erstanding.
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna be talking like this on Friday if okay,
Speaker 2: see come back and win.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So okay, see we we
Speaker 1: can sit here and talk all that. It's still two
Speaker 1: to one going into game four. Okay, See he has
Speaker 1: just just understand that you get a win, and swot
Speaker 1: get a win and go back, okay on the home
Speaker 1: court advantage, back again to yourself. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and that's what it is. But you gotta you guys understand. Well,
Speaker 1: we got to give Indiana all this credit. They did
Speaker 1: a great job of winning game game three. That's what
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. They're at home. Now, what the
Speaker 1: okase he has to do is just come back. You
Speaker 1: guys got are understand two times in his playoffs. Okay,
Speaker 1: he has done this.
Speaker 2: They have done this.
Speaker 1: They have lost game one, came back in one game
Speaker 1: and lost game three. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: they've been in this situation before. Now you gotta come
Speaker 1: into game four and just say, hey, this just win
Speaker 1: this game. Shut everybody up, go back home, and we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens.
Speaker 2: That's all they got to do.
Speaker 1: If they went and listen, what all they want to
Speaker 1: do is go back, go back to ok Ce, tiede
Speaker 1: and I got game five in game seven on my
Speaker 1: home court.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 2: I bet you. I bet you got old Joe Friday
Speaker 2: that they beat them along. I'm gonna beat them.
Speaker 3: Hold on, you want the best. Something puts up, I'm
Speaker 3: beat I bet it. Hey make it light of yourself,
Speaker 3: make it light on yourself. Hey, anything goes with me, Okay,
Speaker 3: Betty huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my WiFi is just lagged a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you show. I'm sure if you want to, we can
Speaker 2: go three. No no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5: I got I got got child. I got child for
Speaker 5: doing two weeks so.
Speaker 2: I got you. Got a doul't support too. I want
Speaker 2: about fifty nine hundred.
Speaker 5: I got you, I got you baby, I got hey
Speaker 5: so and listens.
Speaker 3: Soon as GP paid me Friday, as soon as Joe
Speaker 3: give me my my hundred, that's.
Speaker 2: Keep me out of keep me out of this. I've
Speaker 2: seen you doing. You see in my cashop. I just
Speaker 2: let it sit there for a little while, Little I
Speaker 2: got you.
Speaker 1: Lou Williams had high praise for s g A today,
Speaker 1: saying we're looking at Kobe Bryant being created.
Speaker 2: Too soon for the Kobe comparisons. GP. You played with
Speaker 2: Kobe at his absolute apex? Are we is?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: Is this a good comparison? Too soon? Nowhere there coch,
Speaker 2: It's gonna be one Kobe. That's it. I don't care
Speaker 2: what y'all say.
Speaker 1: It's only one Kobe. Yeah, it's just like y'all telling
Speaker 1: me either, say, uh, Joe Buckets over there, ain't nobody
Speaker 1: like Joe. Joe can get buckets. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Don't y'all compare people to people, especially somebody like like
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2: That's shame shape. Yeah, man, I don't think he Kobe yet,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't think he ever
Speaker 2: will be Kobe.
Speaker 1: He's a great basketball player, but you guys, slow down,
Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna be it ain't gonna be no code,
Speaker 1: no more cochek. But it was a different it's a
Speaker 1: different beats, you know what I'm saying. So don't don't
Speaker 1: compare him to that. And for y'all people to be
Speaker 1: even put people's name on other people, that's not for me.
Speaker 2: For me, I can see GP Joe Ojo.
Speaker 1: I can see the comparisons when people say style of
Speaker 1: play Jordan and Kobe, because the style of play is very,
Speaker 1: very similar. When I look at Shaye, I don't see
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see anything that reminded me of Kobe. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm saying the same thing that that's not that's not
Speaker 1: I'm being no, that's not a knock that's not a
Speaker 1: knock on shape Because I say he's phenomenal. I think
Speaker 1: we all in agree, he's phenomenal. He earned the m
Speaker 1: VP this season. But when I watched his game, and
Speaker 1: I watched Kobe from day one when the air ball
Speaker 1: against Utah in the playoffs, so I watched him his
Speaker 1: entire career, I don't see I don't see Kobe.
Speaker 2: I don't think oh man, I don't. I don't see that.
Speaker 1: Oh mean, Kobe was a different beast, Shanny. I'm just
Speaker 1: selling to y'all, it's a different it's a different beast.
Speaker 1: And then we can compare Jordan and Kobe, because Kobe
Speaker 1: tried to be like Jordan. Yes, so it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, man. And I hate people
Speaker 1: that even try to compare anybody else's game to somebody
Speaker 1: you're putting you putting that man name on on greatness,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So y'all stopped that. It's no comparison there. I don't
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 1: That's just like somebody saying and they play like you
Speaker 1: and football getting me man, Yeah, out of here, man, y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm talking.
Speaker 2: Stupid right now. You know what I'm saying. I like
Speaker 2: doing dumb stuff, man, So just slow down, people.
Speaker 3: I think I think most of the time when it
Speaker 3: comes to people, you know, even even some of the
Speaker 3: elite players, some of those with great knowledge of basketball,
Speaker 3: become we become prisoners of the moment. They become prisoners
Speaker 3: of the moment seeing something that looks or depicts what.
Speaker 5: We're used to seeing in greatness as Kobe is. You know,
Speaker 5: the styles and the smoothness, the butter like style.
Speaker 3: The play is the somewhat similar, you know, being able
Speaker 3: to get to your shot, get to your median and
Speaker 3: when he rides up, he looked like Kobe a little bit.
Speaker 5: But s g A has his own style. SG has
Speaker 5: his own style.
Speaker 3: And even putting that pressure on SGA, even though he's
Speaker 3: won MVP and even though he has a toolbox, putting
Speaker 3: that person him comparing to Kobe, you shouldn't do that
Speaker 3: because Kobe is is.
Speaker 5: He's an iconic figure in his own.
Speaker 3: Right, and and the way he approach to the game
Speaker 3: is completely, completely, completely different, and he's in the class
Speaker 3: of his own where the comparisons shouldn't even be the
Speaker 3: greatest SGA when people.
Speaker 1: Trying to say out it's like when people say, uh Man,
Speaker 1: Lebron ain't Jordan.
Speaker 2: No Lebron game is like Magic.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the that's the comparison that you shouldn't make
Speaker 1: because both of those guys will pass first. Now, Lebron
Speaker 1: is a better score than look than than than than
Speaker 1: than than. Magic could rebound the ball better than Magic,
Speaker 1: but the way they orchestra, the way they control the
Speaker 1: ball game, both would pass first. Now, if you need
Speaker 1: me to go give you thirty, I think you know,
Speaker 1: I think Lebron is a better score. He could score
Speaker 1: the basketball better better than Magic. Magic taught them and
Speaker 1: both guys taught themselves out to shoot. Magic had that
Speaker 1: little push, that little what had to push GP you
Speaker 1: you oh, you know you play, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he had that little push, that little push one handed,
Speaker 1: but it was effective. Magic, big guy six', nine could.
Speaker 1: Post magic would look at a you better have, somebody
Speaker 1: you better have your, boots phone and be ready to,
Speaker 1: play because if you were, Small magic was gonna post your.
Speaker 2: Ass Adie, shannon he he knew how to do the hook.
Speaker 2: Shot he baby hook that. Everything, see he was a little.
Speaker 1: Different and the way what we should say About lebron And,
Speaker 1: magic they're both all around basketball, correct they're complete basketball.
Speaker 1: Players they do everything you see What i'm. Saying so
Speaker 1: that's what when people compare to people and all that. Stuff,
Speaker 1: Man now that would be a great. Comparison, yes both of.
Speaker 1: Them two are complete basketball. Players they're all around. Player
Speaker 1: and then you gotta look At magic was six' nine
Speaker 1: and about, two something and then You got lebron six
Speaker 1: eight and. Two something so you gotta do you gotta
Speaker 1: understand they are. The comparison what? You, do now if
Speaker 1: You say lebron.
Speaker 2: Look, Like magic i'll, be, like, YEAH yeah i can. See,
Speaker 2: that true that's. Really true but we Should say shaye Looked.
Speaker 2: Like kobe? Stop it who? Made?
Speaker 5: That who who made?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: Comparison uh Lou.
Speaker 1: Will, okay hey to kind of answer your question that you,
Speaker 1: asked earlier when the last time we've seen a team
Speaker 1: like this win, a championship it would probably Be that.
Speaker 1: PISTONS team I think gp you played Against that. PISTON
Speaker 1: team i know. They, had yeah you had to mention
Speaker 1: that Many, are hey look they had about Three Four
Speaker 1: all stars, that year but they Had four, yeah yeah
Speaker 1: so but you KNOW they i don't. THINK not i
Speaker 1: don't think more than one person stood. Out there all
Speaker 1: they was by committee and they Attacked their lakers team
Speaker 1: man Like.
Speaker 2: Like joe they didn't Have. All star They Had, ben
Speaker 2: wallace They, had rashid They, had prince They, had chauncey
Speaker 2: so that that.
Speaker 6: Was there they had all five, basketball players Wasn't the
Speaker 6: they all had five basketball players and they, played together
Speaker 6: and then they had guys coming off the bench that
Speaker 6: was not, You feel and so you're right comparison to
Speaker 6: a one team that won a championship and that was
Speaker 6: an old four.
Speaker 2: Against us they have a. Superstar neither, you know all
Speaker 2: players all good.
Speaker 1: Basketball, PLAYERS, HEY gp i think When mail man, GOT
Speaker 1: hurt i think that really.
Speaker 2: Hurts, Y'ALL.
Speaker 1: Shannon i said, to everybody and, everybody said we were
Speaker 1: eighteen and two when call alone got hurt when he
Speaker 1: went down and blew us all up because we didn't
Speaker 1: have so we didn't have the structure, of everything and,
Speaker 1: we're applying we're trying to play a TRIANGLE and i
Speaker 1: was just trying to get custom to. The triangle and
Speaker 1: then you got to understand we had a lot of problems,
Speaker 1: within ourselves, you know going through what he was.
Speaker 2: Going through shaq was with a few men With doctor.
Speaker 1: Buss and we were we're in our Thing and carl
Speaker 1: kept us together because you Remember when carl got hurt
Speaker 1: and we were before eighteen and two and were always
Speaker 1: average was SEVENTEEN and i was. Average eighteen so for all,
Speaker 1: eighteen seventeen seventeen seventeen and it. Was flowing and, You're
Speaker 1: right karl alone took it away, from us and it blew.
Speaker 2: Us up it blew. Us up when.
Speaker 1: THAT happened kd was online yesterday and had time to
Speaker 1: go back and forth with someone. On x it all
Speaker 1: started when he responded to a, TWEET saying i think
Speaker 1: it's time To Admit kevin durant's trajectory After Leading golden
Speaker 1: state is. VERY underwhelming, KD responded i. Highly disagreed wan
Speaker 1: a debate. Another guy the same, guy said. No disrespect
Speaker 1: you're one of, the best most skilled PLAYERS in, nba
Speaker 1: history but ever Since Leaving, golden state you haven't done
Speaker 1: much and you're going to be on your third team
Speaker 1: and then if you.
Speaker 2: Get traded if you think.
Speaker 1: You Stayed In, golden state you would have won More
Speaker 1: Championships all stars fifty Forty NINETY All nba official.
Speaker 2: BUCKET brother i also got a.
Speaker 1: CAREER high sis one year hit thirty, thousand points won
Speaker 1: a couple of gold MEDALS, and mvp or what A
Speaker 1: career i'm STILL going i.
Speaker 2: LOVE life i haven't. Done much it's just, your opinion
Speaker 2: not based.
Speaker 1: On facts, once again your statement is talking about me as,
Speaker 1: an individual right because you can't talk about my teams
Speaker 1: without talking about everybody else, As well so without them
Speaker 1: being involved in, the convent it comes down to.
Speaker 2: Just me i've laid it Out what.
Speaker 1: I've done if you want to talk about basketball as a,
Speaker 1: team sport those are two.
Speaker 2: Separate things this is What.
Speaker 1: WE kevin i agree With what, kevin says but if
Speaker 1: we look, at it that's not how They. Judge lebron
Speaker 1: that's not how they've EVER. Done gp they don't judge great.
Speaker 1: Like that, they're like either, you won because the winners
Speaker 1: get the credit and when, they lose they get.
Speaker 2: The blame that's just the way.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: Is right when you're a, Great, player shinny you're always
Speaker 2: gonna take. The black it ALWAYS we i don't care what.
Speaker 1: Nobody say when you're a focal point of everything that,
Speaker 1: you lose you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: The black it's just that you gotta take it the way.
Speaker 2: It is you gotta take the good for. The bad
Speaker 2: you Know what. I'm saying you're gonna take it when,
Speaker 2: It's good so when, it's bad. Take it you Know what.
Speaker 2: I'm saying And k kate is. My guy, you know
Speaker 2: that's my.
Speaker 1: Little youngster so he's gonna go back. At you kd leave. It,
Speaker 1: alone man you know how great. You is just come
Speaker 1: back what you. Gotta, do man it is what. It is,
Speaker 1: you know once you come to. A TEAM and I
Speaker 1: think kat has not been on a good basketball team
Speaker 1: since He Left. Golden state I'M just i don't believe
Speaker 1: that he hasn't been on a good. Basketball team he
Speaker 1: had another great next twoing that can make shots and.
Speaker 2: Do everything You remember draymond was was, was fresh he.
Speaker 2: Was young you had A. Young clay you Have An.
Speaker 2: Igua dollar you had a lot of good basketball players.
Speaker 1: Over. Here daddy you know you can get Around and
Speaker 1: living And ed, living, SAID well i. Got, him god
Speaker 1: he changed the.
Speaker 2: Game around you Know what. I'm saying it's deep you
Speaker 2: you Know what.
Speaker 1: I'm Saying, and loan but he's got an if he
Speaker 1: goes to a good, basketball team if he gets Traded,
Speaker 1: for phoenix then he can do with IT because i
Speaker 1: don't think nobody can still. Stop it he can score
Speaker 1: the basketball. Too well he's still average twenty six. This
Speaker 1: year ye're, the same you Know what. I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: just that you just are a bad. Basketball team and
Speaker 1: what happens is if he gets traded to, somebody good
Speaker 1: he can he can show that skill again of what
Speaker 1: he is and he hasn't lost A step i don't
Speaker 1: care what. You say you don't have to lose the
Speaker 1: step up in this in, this era IN, this nba
Speaker 1: because all you got to do is be able, to
Speaker 1: score and he can still score, The, basketball joe before.
Speaker 1: You go the problem that he's gonna run into is
Speaker 1: that when he Went To, golden state he was a,
Speaker 1: free agent so they didn't have to give. Up anything
Speaker 1: if you trade, for him you're gonna lose some of.
Speaker 1: Your depth that's. What happened that's what Happened. With phoenix,
Speaker 1: oh yeah they, got it but look at what they
Speaker 1: had to give up to, get, It, right okay and now,
Speaker 1: you trade now you Bring In, bradley beal you had
Speaker 1: to give up. More depth and THE analogy i like
Speaker 1: THE u gp is Like when carmelo Went from Denver
Speaker 1: To new york where you had to give up so
Speaker 1: much to. Get him so when he, got there he
Speaker 1: damned there. By himself SO. And kd gold you, got
Speaker 1: storing but you got. No depth look at the teams
Speaker 1: THAT the, nba finals what do they?
Speaker 2: Have depth.
Speaker 1: Both they don't have a PLAYER that's, i mean you
Speaker 1: Might say shade might be the closest thing and the equivalent,
Speaker 1: to him but what do.
Speaker 2: They have look at the look at.
Speaker 1: Their benches look at anytime a BOOK on kd and
Speaker 1: they leave the court the benches was. Was awful so
Speaker 1: when you can go somewhe as a free agent and
Speaker 1: they don't have to give up any compensation.
Speaker 2: For, you.
Speaker 1: Now, But LOOK. Kevin kd he's not gonna win. THIS
Speaker 1: argument i don't care what and everything that he said.
Speaker 1: Is true he's the he's he's Our greatest olympian, basketball,
Speaker 1: player no no doubt.
Speaker 2: About it but he was NEVER and i used analogy.
Speaker 1: New edition he was never gonna be accepted LIKE THE o, G, Members,
Speaker 1: Ronnie bobby Ricky.
Speaker 2: And mike he was never because you know what He Was.
Speaker 1: Johnny Gill johnny gil could not say. Them all but
Speaker 1: he didn't grow up In.
Speaker 2: Rock ferry.
Speaker 1: So when you look, at it it's like it is
Speaker 1: it's rare that you have somebody that comes onto a
Speaker 1: group that that wasn't a part of the original group
Speaker 1: and people.
Speaker 2: Remember it so THAT'S what.
Speaker 1: KD was kd, Is great he's, historically great and we
Speaker 1: might not ever feel guy his size that Could handle
Speaker 1: dirk was. His Hype but dirk shot that. One legged
Speaker 1: dirk wasn't putting the ball on the floor getting to
Speaker 1: the REALM. Like kd he wasn't putting the ball on
Speaker 1: the floor and getting TO the MIDI. Like Kd, AS
Speaker 1: shannon I gotta i gotta correct you. On that the
Speaker 1: greatest lift In. Is carmel oh You Put, carmelo okay
Speaker 1: because he he done scored all the points in. The
Speaker 1: thing he did everything in a Lot of olympics that
Speaker 1: he got all the do it off. The, beach yeah
Speaker 1: he got all. The records so if you want to
Speaker 1: say doing all accomplishment In the olympics as, one Player.
Speaker 2: That's carmelo know what's, Your Take, joe.
Speaker 1: Man listen as far AS uh kd moving around going
Speaker 1: to a, new, TEAM uh i want to see him go, Somewhere,
Speaker 1: man well he don't have to do much.
Speaker 2: Dirty. WORK fellas i want to see him go somewhere
Speaker 2: where he, can just, you know kind.
Speaker 1: Of.
Speaker 2: Thrive, offensively, yeah defensively he gonna make.
Speaker 1: A difference but if you put him on any team
Speaker 1: that's pretty GOOD, and gp, you notice he gonna take
Speaker 1: him over.
Speaker 2: The, top man he's gonna take him to that.
Speaker 1: Next level what they try to Whether It's, san antonio Whether,
Speaker 1: it's houston Whether, it's, detroit.
Speaker 2: Wherever wherever it.
Speaker 1: May, BE uh i just want to see him get
Speaker 1: get somewhere to where, you know he can catapult a
Speaker 1: team to the.
Speaker 2: Next, level man what Team? George? What what What team
Speaker 2: georgia you? Take that that that? WOULD be i mean
Speaker 2: just depends on what.
Speaker 1: We gotta what you gotta give up to, Get Him,
Speaker 1: LIKE houston i love three team deal and give away
Speaker 1: two of them little Players. From houston keep your core
Speaker 1: a little bit, of core and then you'll you can she'll. Be,
Speaker 1: good yeah cause you gonna probably. Have to the thing
Speaker 1: is you're probably gonna have to give Up shot Good And.
Speaker 1: Jalen Green jalen green care, About That, jalen green as,
Speaker 1: you know but you got all the other younger players
Speaker 1: Around because i'm not giving up On.
Speaker 2: Men thompson i'm not Giving. Up thompson i'm. Not nothing
Speaker 2: and You know shak you know. He's big oh, YOU
Speaker 2: know i CAN'T see i Can't see houston Giving up.
Speaker 2: Shane going you don't think? So now MAYBE now.
Speaker 1: I know i don't know if the money add up
Speaker 1: if you Give Up Jabbari. Smith JR but i don't
Speaker 1: see them giving Up sing.
Speaker 2: GOOON man i don't give them Up.
Speaker 1: NEITHER shannon i would Give up green and ro. And
Speaker 1: problem but how we how do we make the? Money
Speaker 1: right but you gotta go on three, Team trade That's what.
Speaker 1: I'm saying you gotta bring a thirteen in to bring
Speaker 1: them moving there because the third team can give up some.
Speaker 1: Draft picks you're gonna have to least give up three
Speaker 1: first round draft picks for a. Half CHEAP and i
Speaker 1: don't know if you'll have to give up that much
Speaker 1: OF no GP because i think you're gonna look at.
Speaker 2: His age he's gonna be, thirty seven plus his. Injury History, But,
Speaker 2: dan shannon you should have got to think. About it
Speaker 2: the other team's gotta get.
Speaker 1: Something too there are third team out to get at
Speaker 1: least one first round because think.
Speaker 2: About it because here, another, thing guys we gotta.
Speaker 1: Thank you we gotta take, INTO Consideration, O, Joe yeah
Speaker 1: luca doncons at, twenty five Win For anthony davis and
Speaker 1: another in a first round pick at.
Speaker 2: Twenty. Five bro But, but shannon you went for a.
Speaker 2: Day exactly davis is pretty. Goddamn cook hell. Watches out
Speaker 2: you know What he's he's thirty two with the.
Speaker 1: Injury History and i'm giving you a guy that just
Speaker 1: took the team TO the NBA five if at, twenty
Speaker 1: five and look what he did when he came back
Speaker 1: To the lakers and then do it.
Speaker 2: Too, Much, hey hey we don't get. It right one ain't.
Speaker 2: Gonna work we're gonna. Get it we're gonna get. It right.
Speaker 1: He, go hey as a matter, of fact He traded lebron,
Speaker 1: RIGHT now i know you a big l, a Thing
Speaker 1: but I'm a. Lebron, fan, no, no, No no I'm
Speaker 1: with i'm a fan of he. Is too but when,
Speaker 1: We leave i'm. GOING somewhere i don't Know where, i'm
Speaker 1: Going but i'm. Going somewhere you.
Speaker 2: Like traveling, Off, STARS hey i. Get, it hey, at
Speaker 2: first My first.
Speaker 1: At first kobe was. MY guy i Was a, Kobe
Speaker 1: fan burns one of my. Best, friends uh he Was a.
Speaker 1: Lebron fan now he Knew About kevin Duran Because kevin
Speaker 1: durant is from, That Area Prince, george county so that
Speaker 1: d M. V a, HE said i tell YOU what.
Speaker 1: I do, He said i'll let You have i'll let
Speaker 1: You have lebron if you Give me Kevin. Dur red,
Speaker 1: he said as a matter, OF fact i Give you
Speaker 1: kobe AND leb, i said, hold on you're gonna Get
Speaker 1: me Kobe and lebron and all you Want Is kevin
Speaker 1: DURRANT because i was supposed to get the next guy
Speaker 1: to come out the, Next Year So kevin durant theoretic
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. MY player, i, said, Okay DONE
Speaker 1: so I got, I said I got Covid and broun bro.
Speaker 1: You high so He's been so he got KD and
Speaker 1: I got Kobe. And lebron, but uh IT'S just I don't,
Speaker 1: I mean i'm just trying to figure out where can
Speaker 1: he go where they don't have to give they don't
Speaker 1: have to give up. Their depth because you look at these,
Speaker 1: two teams what got them to where, they are what's? Their,
Speaker 1: DEPTH yeah i think he goes Back To. GOLDEN state i, was,
Speaker 1: thinking no he ain't. Going back you don't want to
Speaker 1: go back there because because the way where. It ended
Speaker 1: but if he goes, BACK there i guarantee you they'll
Speaker 1: be they'll they'll they'll be a contingent for.
Speaker 2: The championship oh well at.
Speaker 1: First break but here's, the, Thing though you Giving, Up
Speaker 1: kaminga you Giving, up moody you giving up all.
Speaker 7: Those guys, get enough you're gonna. GIVE up i think
Speaker 7: two of them you'll. Open there you. Give up and But,
Speaker 7: but shan they're not. Playing anyway It, doesn't matt you're
Speaker 7: gonna give up to.
Speaker 2: Me anyway he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna lead he's. Gonna lead now they're gonna try to trade.
Speaker 1: Him Anyway, even boody you don't even play. Him anyway
Speaker 1: you don't. Play him so you're gonna be the. Same
Speaker 1: way you're Gonna have, Butler uh curry uh and and And.
Speaker 1: Then draymond that's. YOUR four I and i don't care
Speaker 1: how these. Dudes is they still was in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and making noise this year being.
Speaker 2: That way only reason they Lost to minnesota is Because
Speaker 2: that curry.
Speaker 1: GOT hurt i understand if you keep them other little
Speaker 1: cords around you to play, their roles so they will
Speaker 1: be a good basketball team for him to go back
Speaker 1: to and and he can go and HE and i
Speaker 1: guarantee that they will still be in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: then gonna make a run for a championship.
Speaker 2: With him that's all.
Speaker 1: They needed they just, needed him and then You bake
Speaker 1: butler become the. Third option, come, on man they gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty good because that's what they did when they
Speaker 1: when they want, a champion they won the.
Speaker 2: Two championship they, Had him clay.
Speaker 1: A Right and drey mind doing EVERYTHING, That, gp man
Speaker 1: thanks for, joining. Us man we know you got a. Business.
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