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Speaker 1: beat the Thunder. The Pacers win the first finals game

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Speaker 1: and Andy in twenty five years take a two to

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Speaker 1: one lead with another game in Andy one sixteen to

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Speaker 1: one oh seven. They did a better job of limiting

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Speaker 1: shade at the free throw line. You only get to

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Speaker 1: the line six times, nine of twenty from the floor.

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Speaker 1: They did a great job on him, but still the

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Speaker 1: Thunder had three guys with twenty or more points.

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Speaker 2: But it was the bench of the Indiana Pacers that

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Speaker 2: won this game.

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Speaker 1: Benter Deck Mathern had his best game, twenty seven points,

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Speaker 1: seven to eight from the free throw line. TJ McConnell

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Speaker 1: Obie Topping was flying high. That put back dump really

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Speaker 1: energized the crowd. Joe, we're gonna start the U and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna pass it off the GP. How did

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Speaker 1: the Pacers win this game?

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Speaker 2: Man? Oho GP?

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Speaker 1: They had that intensity that they needed, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: TJ McCollum. They came in, rose the energy up to

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Speaker 1: And OKC was just so careless with the basketball. Is

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Speaker 1: They've been doing it all postseason, like we continue to say,

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Speaker 1: You watch watch this game in its entirety, and Indy

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Speaker 1: every series they won game one, they lost Game two

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Speaker 1: But then what do the subs come and do for Indiana?

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: But you got to give a credit to Indiana for

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Speaker 2: They're at home. They took the game to him.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how Oklahoma's gonna come back, but

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Speaker 1: right and you look at it. We talked about something

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Speaker 1: the other night, Guys, we said shape. I said, man,

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Speaker 1: his ass, Joe. They got turnedovers off that they tied

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Speaker 1: cannot let him play one on one. He's as good

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Speaker 1: and get separation. Go ahead, GP. Who do you think? Who?

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Speaker 2: Who? Who? Who? What team? Joe in you two and

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Speaker 2: O Joe? When they don't win? What they saw a

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Speaker 2: What team is that?

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Speaker 1: The Golden State Warriors when they get hurt that, yes,

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Speaker 2: And Oklahoma only has.

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Speaker 1: One guy that can do that inside Shay, and that's

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Speaker 2: Can do it. And what did they do.

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Speaker 1: They let him score all the toys and they take

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Speaker 1: Shay out and he goes nine for twenty and they

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Speaker 1: I still think Oklahoma should be very really covenant because

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Speaker 1: in a basketball game. To win it, your covenant's gotta

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Speaker 1: be hot. O. Joe looked at We looked at Okay.

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Speaker 1: See what they did to Indy. Out of the first game,

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Speaker 1: they turned them over twenty five times, they lost the game.

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Speaker 1: Indiana found a way to get close in the fourth

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Speaker 2: We watched the second game.

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Speaker 1: I think they turned them over seventeen eighteen times and

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Speaker 1: they won the ball game going away. This game, they

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Speaker 1: he didn't have his best game handling the ball because

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Speaker 2: What what do.

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Speaker 1: You think OKC needs to do to make sure they

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Speaker 1: because look they had three guys with twenty plus points. Again,

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Speaker 1: Shay was not as efficient this game as he was

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Speaker 1: the first of the second game.

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Speaker 2: Remember he was like what level of twenty one?

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Speaker 1: The second game he had thirty four to the first

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Speaker 1: had Chad Hongren six to fifteen inefficient.

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Speaker 2: They Alad shot.

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Speaker 1: They shot the ball forty seven percent for the four

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Speaker 1: They had twenty points from Chad, They got twenty six

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Speaker 1: from Jalen Williams. They got twenty four from Shape. But

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Speaker 1: their bitch didn't give up anything. Remember Joe Ojoe GP

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Speaker 1: the last game their bitch. Remember remember Caruso what they

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Speaker 1: gave them off the bench, the tide was flipped. You

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Speaker 2: Yoh Joe, what do you see?

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Speaker 1: What did you like about what you saw from Indiana?

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Speaker 1: And what you didn't like from Okay?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, Honestly, you know, I picked the Pacers to

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Speaker 3: win the series, so I did what I saw from

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Speaker 3: a Okay, see you like everything I.

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Speaker 2: Saw from them?

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Speaker 3: Listen, the Pacers just played to me, to me from

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Speaker 3: based on my eyes and my little bit of knowledge

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Speaker 3: of basketball that I've learned to date, the PACs tonight

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Speaker 3: played the most complete game of the finals. They didn't

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Speaker 4: But excuse me, excuse me if I put your last

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Speaker 4: Well, young boy had twenty seven twenty seven. He was

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Speaker 4: Listen he was he was a game score higher. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh but listen.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't This wasn't just like a heat checked shooting, right.

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Speaker 2: Have a question. He doesn't get in foul trouble early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you noticed if when he gets in foul trouble early,

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Speaker 1: it takes on his aggressive miss away from him. He's

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Speaker 1: not the same player GP, Joe and Joe, He's not

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Speaker 1: Hey, and when you look at Halliburg, look how he

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Speaker 1: He wasn't passing, he was looking for his shot, he

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Speaker 2: You know this.

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Speaker 1: See, it's like their defense has kind of went into

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Speaker 1: Like you know what the problem is, Joe, is that

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Speaker 2: What do you have to do to a great defense team?

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna beat them.

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Speaker 1: If you let them be comfortable and you don't and

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Speaker 1: I mean the guys, the Rick Carlisle is doing a

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Speaker 2: And yeah, and they don't let up.

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Speaker 1: No let up. And like you said, they're being aggressive.

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Speaker 1: They know it's become very difficult.

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Speaker 2: Guys. We know, okay see has a great defense.

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Speaker 1: You gotta stay out of half court because if you

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Speaker 1: love what I saw. Look, Indiana, everybody has to roll

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Speaker 2: So guess what we're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have one of the If they weren't to win this,

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Speaker 1: when you figure they're doing it without a super star player,

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Speaker 2: Wait? Wait, whoa whoa? Hold on? Hold on, they're saying.

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Speaker 3: You're saying they don't have a superstar player, but they

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Speaker 1: No, no, making shots doesn't make you a superstar, jo Ojo,

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Speaker 1: having Burton is not a superstar. Hold on, Joe, I

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Speaker 1: agree with that. He's not a superstar. He's a player.

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Speaker 1: He's a good basketball player, but he's not a superstar.

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Speaker 1: You might be spright, Ojo. He's playing like a superstar. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's playing like that right now. He's stepping up to

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, everything happens.

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Speaker 1: He thinks getting his players into it first, and then

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Speaker 1: but he has to you know.

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Speaker 2: But he's not that that player.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say go get him and put

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Speaker 1: get forty from him every night. That's not But he

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Speaker 1: is playing like a superstar right now. I will see that.

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Speaker 2: Right like that. Think about it.

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Speaker 3: We had that conversation before, not long ago. Remember, remember

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Speaker 3: we talked about superstar. Star was the first thing I say, Listen,

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Speaker 3: he's a star. He's a star. But the way he's

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Speaker 3: based on what I've seen right now, you know them

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Speaker 3: the piggyback off of GP saying he just started playing

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Speaker 3: you all, what's gonna happen, Joe, I'm just gonna sleek

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Speaker 3: that in there. Joe, you owe me one hundred dollars two.

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Speaker 2: I want to listen.

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Speaker 5: Listen, money money out of Site called the fight.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to listen. He a gp G.

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Speaker 3: Listen, so listen the last series. You know, obviously the

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Speaker 3: each game, we got one hundred dollars bet on each game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't want to so you have two

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you up on, honey, right the right, Joe

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Speaker 1: Joe cash Hally play heroics have earned him a new

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Speaker 1: O Joe and Joe Tyrese. The moment Halliburton, the moment,

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Speaker 2: Like it.

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Speaker 1: In the moment, he'll get what he has to in

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Speaker 1: the moment, he'll make a big shot.

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Speaker 2: At that moment. He might not be playing well at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when the omen come and the lights shine on him,

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Speaker 2: So I would give him that that that that nick

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Speaker 2: name that I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like what Joe, I like what you said that

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Speaker 1: he would he know, he went to the store and

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Speaker 1: he was just hey, he just went didn't do nothing. Nah,

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Speaker 1: tryal some ishje the shirt, Hey, hey how much the shoes?

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Speaker 1: I be tryal something tonight he came out. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: A No you do it?

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Speaker 1: Hey A Miles Turner, Hey nim Hard No, no, you

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Speaker 1: you the guy. You see when he's aggressive, when he's

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Speaker 1: So now he's giving you his twenty. Now you got

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Speaker 1: if he's going to play like that.

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Speaker 2: But we shouldn't have to have like damn had it?

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, Why we got to tell you every

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Speaker 2: That should be understood.

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Speaker 1: The game is so much easier for you guys when

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Speaker 2: He's not. First of all, he's a true point guard.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of guys masquerading, and they're masquerading

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Speaker 1: his points, but they're really two guards, Russard and Luca.

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Speaker 1: Those are really twos masquerading your points. Shenny, Shenny in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, tell me what had what did all the

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Speaker 1: what did they play in college? The two guard two? Yes,

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Speaker 2: No, you not.

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Speaker 1: He's a two masquerading of the point out of my lane.

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Speaker 2: Man. You when I was playing, man were true point guards?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, He is true. It's only

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Speaker 1: And he even get right at and that's that's uh,

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul and him, they're a true point guards look

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Speaker 1: they come and do. But Allen Bird, he does, he

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Speaker 1: does everything. He rebounds the basketball. Yeah, he makes his

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and that that's a point guard

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Speaker 1: to me, he was a.

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Speaker 2: Rebound short of a triple double. He was a joe.

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Speaker 1: He was a rebound short of a triple double. Twenty

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Speaker 1: One rebound short of a triple double.

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Speaker 2: Joe, that's gp.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you glad we agree on what we talked

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Speaker 3: What do you need to see from him? What do

439
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 3: you need to see from him for him to be

440
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: a superstar in your eyes? What else does he have

441
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: to do? Ently?

442
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: But what team he's on? To me?

443
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: For you to be a superstar nowadays in this era,

444
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: and Joe know that, I think you would have to

445
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: be You have.

446
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: To be more of a score.

447
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 1: You have to be more of dominant, you know, And

448
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: he's not that type of basketball player.

449
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: So what it is is is that now.

450
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: People have to say you're a superstar because of what

451
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: his production is every night. Now he comes and get

452
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: a triple double and average a triple double for the year.

453
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: Now you become a superstar and.

454
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: Your team is winging on a consistent basis and doing

455
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: the things that.

456
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: You do, then you got to do it. But as Joe, no,

457
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: you gotta be down to be a superstar. That's it.

458
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: You gotta They gotta just start saying Rick condition, Yeah,

459
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: you gotta get recognition, O Joe, how much money you

460
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: paying to go see Halliburton.

461
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: I don't do that. I don't do that at GP. Joe,

462
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: you gonna tell him.

463
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but listen, that is true, Oaks, who's coming every night?

464
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: Just say I'm gonna pay a thousand and two three

465
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to come see how.

466
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: Okay, that's not that's not a Pacers fan.

467
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of Pacers fans. Because but where you go.

468
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: You gotta go to, uh, you gotta go to what thirty?

469
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: But you got forty one games on the road, you

470
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: gotta go to thirty. You gotta go to thirty some

471
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: other six. You gotta go to like twenty nine or whatever.

472
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, team's in to twenty nine, thirtyeen. You gotta

473
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: go twenty nine other cities and see who comes and

474
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: pay that money. Or he's gonna be the man in Indiana. Yes,

475
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: that's where he plays at. He's perfect for them that

476
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: he's perfect Indiana And we're not trying to minimize I

477
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: like you know what, I like that nickname. That nickname,

478
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: the moment is very remarktable. He should run with that. Hey,

479
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: I put that on my shoes. I'm put a As

480
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I'm changing my social media I'm

481
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: the moment. You see what did with the truth, See

482
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: what Kobe did with Mamba shot.

483
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: Hey, don't nobody calls Shaquil shaquillo.

484
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: He shot he the deep well, the big Aristotle, the

485
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: big Chamber of decse everything. Hey, look, we gotta we

486
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: gotta give any out of their credit. Though, Man, they

487
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: they offense is fueled. You know, it's been fueled by

488
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: that defense. The way they pick up full court. They've

489
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: done it the whole postseason. They've been disruptive. And I

490
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: think that's the most gratifying thing for me when I

491
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: watch him play, because even when they down GP, they

492
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: still picking up ninety four feet, They picking up ninety

493
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: four feet. They gonna weigh you down. They're gonna And

494
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: I like the fact that they switched up the covertes today. Life, Man,

495
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: get shade the state of guy, make him, make him

496
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: think about it, because now when he come off that

497
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: pig and roll GP, now he like, Okay, damn, are

498
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: they trapping?

499
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: Are they gonna get? Are they gonna are they gonna

500
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: be in a drop? What they're gonna be?

501
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: And so now he's kind of second guessing himself on

502
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: how to make his moves and I thought it.

503
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: I thought it was turning back.

504
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: Hey if he turned his back, Hey, the guy that

505
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: he turned his back to go to it. But or

506
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: they got four guys that do that, and they're pressuring

507
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: and they're what they're doing is they're they're trading off

508
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: guard and they and they keeping the keeping pressure on him.

509
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: And now what that does to Shay is that he

510
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: starts saying, I can't get my game off, can't get

511
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: my game off.

512
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: To what he do.

513
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: He started, he started forcing things president to click. He

514
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: tried to start to go by he he won't even

515
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: give up the ball. If the double come, he'll keeping it.

516
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: Then they're start putting their hands in there and sticking

517
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: them and and he and he and he turned the

518
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: ball of. But the one thing that's killing it the

519
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: referees are not calling that. They ain't nothing to play right.

520
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: So that's hurting too because he usually gets them files.

521
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: But now I give him that even when he goes

522
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: to the bucket and they bumpany they're not calling that.

523
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: And he's taking files.

524
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: He's taking shots and God saying like it's going to

525
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: be an ad one. But them balls are just saying

526
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: them referees are saying no play this is what we're

527
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: gonna do.

528
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: That's making this.

529
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: Game very hard. Right now, we've given okay, see, guys

530
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. I think we need to give

531
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: them hard. We need to give Niee Smith, we need

532
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: to give Maprick, we need to give Shepherd. We need

533
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: to give those guys credit because they're doing, as you said,

534
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: they're doing an unbelievable job. Each guy is a little different.

535
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: Each guy has a different body type and they're playing

536
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: him different ways, so he's not getting used to any

537
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: one person. Knee Smith got in four minute, nim Hard

538
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: to take him, and now Maverick comes in, Mathren takes him,

539
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: and then a Shepherd comes in. He'll deal with it. Hey,

540
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: Hey see y'all. Hey look once again.

541
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: He turns back.

542
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all come because he's not one of these point

543
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: guards like a Luca Lebron. That's really that. He goes

544
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: to the basket. He's looking to kick out for three.

545
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: He's looking to get the ball up to the rim.

546
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: So hey come from behind, swat that. How many times

547
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: did a Siakam get it down? How many times did

548
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: the Miles Turner? So I think we need to give

549
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: a rightfully so okay see, we know what they are defensively,

550
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: but I think we need to give the Pacers because

551
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: they're doing an unbelievable job.

552
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: What twenty points in the.

553
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Third they came up twenty, hold up fifteen, they get

554
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: fifteen points in the fourth quarter, twenty eight points in

555
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: the second quarter, So that's forty three points over two quarters.

556
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: And look at the pacers, man, they had eleven blocks, yes,

557
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: eleven blocks. So they lets you know, they contest and everything.

558
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: They're very aggressive and they making it tough for okay see, man,

559
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: I love to see you guys. This is has This

560
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: has been a pretty good series if you ask me,

561
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: especially from a defensive standpoint, from what Indiana is trying

562
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: to impose their will, feeding off their crowd.

563
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: Tonight.

564
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: It looked amazing in there, and you know they was

565
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: able to come up come away with the victory. So okay, see,

566
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: you gotta get back to the drawing board, man. They

567
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: gotta come out with much more energy and be able

568
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: to sustain. Hey, look, gp in the fourth quarter, I look,

569
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: with four five minutes left, everybody for okay see, was

570
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: grabbing their shorts, bent through grabbing their shorts.

571
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: They were dead down tied, and that's what you don't want.

572
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: They gonna pressure you all game and hopefully you die

573
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: toward the end. I thought toward the end it was

574
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: a tail tale because they started missing free throws. I

575
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: was eighteen points. I was Joe eighteen points. Okay, Se

576
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: scored eighteen points, not fifteen in the fourth quarter. Go ahead,

577
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: jimpie Joe. This is just like a prize fighter. If

578
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: you get beat on for twelve and fifteen rounds and

579
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: keep knocking knocking, what are you gonna do? They're gonna

580
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: get out And then by the time it comes to

581
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: the end of the the end of the game, you're

582
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: gonna be get tired and you're gonna food around and

583
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: get knocked out. You see what I'm saying. And that's

584
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: just the way game bo and that's what Indiana is doing.

585
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: And Shan and Shannon you said it. They're just we

586
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: gotta give credit really the car Lot because his game plan,

587
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: that's doing what he's doing. He's selling them double. He's

588
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: telling them come behind and block shots. And then what

589
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: he do he started he saw swing. He said, now

590
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: you take it. You get ten minutes, you pressure in,

591
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: you dog gehime out for three minutes. Now you go

592
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: get you for three more minutes. Now you go get

593
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: him for three more minutes.

594
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: And what they're doing is like a prize fighter. They're

595
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: wearing you down.

596
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: When we used to see frighters, man, if they jabbed

597
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: you and jabs were jabs were kept it away, What

598
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: did you do?

599
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: You got? They got frustrated.

600
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Bus just start getting frustrated because you getting that hit

601
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: all toe up, you know, get this all beat down.

602
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: But they doing this is they beating his body down

603
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: and he's trying to force things now and it's not working.

604
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to come the game plan where they're

605
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna have to kick the ball and the other people

606
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: aren't gonna have to produce that's you because they're not

607
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: gonna let Shay play the game. He's a NBC, he's

608
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: a superstar and he hurts you. Yeah, what what do

609
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I do? I take that type of basketball player out

610
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: of the game. And once they do that, they're gonna

611
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: win games like this And and Oklahoma City is gonna

612
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: have to get a.

613
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Game playing a couple something different for game four. Hey listen.

614
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: And say young GP and uh and uh and Joe, listen,

615
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: I think this is the rest of the series. She

616
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: is gonna have to pick his spots. He's gonna have

617
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: to choose the spots and change his game a little bit.

618
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: You know, maybe you can't come out and be as

619
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: a curtive as you like to be. You know, you

620
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: know you're not gonna give those files, So you got

621
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: to pick and choose and spurts when to take those

622
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: shots when the drive, when they try to create those files.

623
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: You know, when to get to your admittee when they

624
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 5: put the ball on the floor, when they.

625
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: Kick it out.

626
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: If they trap you the way they are trapping you,

627
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: maybe you have to your approach to the game in

628
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: general has to be completely different and getting everybody else

629
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: involved first, and then picking your your shots and your

630
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: chances and win, to be assertive and hoping, you know,

631
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: you guys can win on the defense end. You know,

632
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: maybe you know, getting some easy boxing, easy buckets to

633
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: get yourself in rhythm, you know. But outside of that,

634
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: I really don't see the Pacers coming up off his

635
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: lead the way it is.

636
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: We already up.

637
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: And I told y'all before the series started that the

638
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: Pacer was probably going to win this series because the

639
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: rest of the world had crowned the Thunder the NBA

640
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: champions already, and this is just what I expected to happen.

641
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh, So what I think what Shay has to do

642
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: is is he has to get rid of the ball

643
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: a little sooner.

644
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: But he's got to start moving to get rid.

645
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Of the ball, start cutting on him a little bit

646
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: and get easier buckets, because what he wants to do

647
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: is he wants an eye sold.

648
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: He wants you one.

649
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: He wants you one on one. If he gets you

650
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: one on one, you're done. But now they're doing him. Man,

651
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: they understand that, and I go again in the Carlisle.

652
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: He understands that this kid is very good one on

653
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: one basketball player by yourself, so he doesn't want him

654
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: to play by himself.

655
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: A lot of coaches don't feel don't.

656
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: Understand that, they let your players just play in this

657
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: era's too good.

658
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: But he play like that.

659
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: So he's not let that happen. And he's understanding. And look,

660
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: he's getting rewarded with it. He's getting wins and his

661
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: players are getting a big lot of confidence.

662
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

663
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: And the Oklahoma City has got to win Game four

664
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: or this is Oh, I don't seem eating them three

665
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: in a row.

666
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 2: GP. You said something very interesting.

667
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: You say he needs to get some easier baskets like

668
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: cut without the basketball.

669
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: But that's not his game. That's Curry's game.

670
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: They're not a whole There are not a whole lot

671
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: of guards, They're not a whole lot of players. Because

672
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do something that i

673
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: haven't been doing, and I'm gonna do it in the

674
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: biggest game of the biggest games of my life. That's

675
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: not what he does. See what makes Steph so hard.

676
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Steph can handle the ball, and he's also great. He's

677
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: more dangerous when he does not have the ball. Yeah,

678
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: because if you let your guard down for just a second,

679
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: a three ball is going up. It is probably gonna

680
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: hurt you. See, that's not Shade like you said, Shaye

681
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: wants the ball. He wants to play one on one.

682
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: He gonna put that chick that showed it in your chest,

683
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: create separation and then get the shot off. Well, if

684
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: you let him play one on one, you can't stop

685
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: that because they're not gonna call him for a charge

686
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: because he was moving. He was dislodging Nise Mill, he

687
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: was dislodging them hard, so they're not gonna call that.

688
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take the ball out of his hands now.

689
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: If he starts moving without the ball, I'll adjust after that,

690
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not letting him play one on one against

691
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: them with nobody. Hey, Hey, TPZ, I'm curious. I'm curious

692
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: to hear what you think. What do you think about

693
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: the lineup change with Homerids at the five, because you

694
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: know Hartenstein, like tonight, he was kind of non existent,

695
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, if you ask me, so, what do you

696
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: think about the lineup change with them just going with

697
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: one big I know they probably don't want Hungris playing

698
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: against Pascal Siakam at the four, but I just feel like, defensively, man,

699
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: they gotta they gotta clog up the paint a little bit,

700
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, be a little more tough down there and

701
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: being able to reback, get one shot, rebound, or even

702
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: get second chance shots on the offensive then, because I

703
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: feel like that's one area that's kind of you You

704
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: absolutely right me. I wouldn't switching. I'll keep it hung

705
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: at the four and get my big buy in there.

706
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: But what I would do, Joe, I would punish uh

707
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Indiana on the other end by trying to go into

708
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: him and make it, make it a physical gay and

709
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: go without in and out with him. That's why it's

710
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: just messing up because they can't match up with them

711
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: like that and that hurt them, and that he's got

712
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: to he's got to perform. I don't care that mediocre game.

713
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: He's got to be big every game. And I don't

714
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: think that is what he's doing. He's gotta be big

715
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: every game. I wouldn't switch my lineup. I would have

716
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: still been with him, getting rebounds, getting things over, being

717
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: aggressive and keeping that in and then when they sub,

718
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: I would sub with them.

719
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And that's just the way

720
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: I gotta go.

721
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: And I think that the lineup change wasn't was not

722
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: a good one. I would have stayed with my big

723
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: men and punished him inside, get rebounds, and keep myself

724
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: in the basketball game. And you're right, Joe, that was

725
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: a big difference to me. I've seen that, and I

726
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: said that's not gonna work because they don't match up

727
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: with him very well. Hey, Indiana, getting a lot of

728
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: layups guys on the n You know what I think happened, Joe.

729
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: I think I thought I think Dag saw what Cleveland Cleveland,

730
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: two bigs got blown out. The Knicks played two bigs

731
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: and and so he's like, you know what, I'm gonna

732
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: make the adjustment because you see with with Mobley and

733
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: and and what's the big Allen, Jared Allen, two bigs

734
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: they lose for one call Anthony Towns of Mitchell Robinson.

735
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: So he's looking, he's thinking that, like, hold on, none

736
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: of my guys. First of all, Hartenstein is not an

737
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: offensive weapon. So he's only gonna get floaters and possibly

738
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: put backs. Hold on, See how come held his own

739
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: against cat, He held his own against Evan Mobley. Chill

740
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: ain't got that gonna play with the basket. He's gonna

741
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: play out there. They can't they can't guard see you

742
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: see that's the difference.

743
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: They can't guard him. They're too big for that.

744
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: This big guy, I'll just put him on Turner and

745
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: then we'll have it. We'll equalize it the things. Soon

746
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: as Turner goes out the game, I do it. Even

747
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: with two big men, you still have to attack them

748
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: the two. I don't think the Knicks big men are

749
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: that good. Only Towns. That's the only way I think.

750
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: And then Cleveland, Mobley and Allen didn't have a good

751
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: series period, you know what I'm And they started off

752
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: hurt from the get when where you know, they were

753
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: already hurt. So that was that was just a little different.

754
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I think if Cleveland would have been a little healthier,

755
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: they would have been cool and they would have did it.

756
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: But with this right here, I think, you don't change

757
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: your your style when you've been going with it all year.

758
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: You don't change your style. You stick with it and

759
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: go and knock people down. And I just think that

760
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: they got to equalize you when they sub they suck, Joe,

761
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: you know it. You you people when they when they suck,

762
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta do that. And that's just the way

763
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: it goes. And I just think Oklahoma is just getting

764
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: out played right now. Just there, y'all just gotta understand

765
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: they're just getting out played. We can't give giving them

766
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: no excuse. They're just getting out.

767
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 5: Play, you know what, you know, a GP, Joe and Uncle.

768
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: Not only are they getting out played, but Oklahoma's office

769
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: is making it easier for Indiana.

770
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 5: Too with the turnovers absolute turnovers, you know too.

771
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: And also I forgot, I forgot when I said when

772
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: about okay, see having those bigsact down on the court. Obviously, Ship,

773
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Ship is really no threat defensive he

774
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: outside of length and height and then herd and side.

775
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: He's a real protector. He's not a he's not an

776
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: own ball defender. Their own ball defenders are the wing players,

777
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: and they got a plethora of those. And because Chad

778
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough bricks in his back pocket, he's, y'all

779
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: gonna play with his back to the basket.

780
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: See, y'all, come is under no threat at all. He's

781
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: Myles Turner. Miles Turner can play Chad Hongreen.

782
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: He can play him on the wing, or he can

783
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: play him down low, because he's no threat. Only on

784
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: the wing is he a threat. And so Hartenstein is

785
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: only looking to get loose balls. He's gonna rebound, he's

786
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna give you second chance points. But he's not an offici.

787
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: So they're not even worried about him, y'all. So now,

788
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: but what you do is that you become smaller. You

789
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: don't give yourself, you don't give yourself second chance opportunities.

790
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: You don't give yourself a rebounding, you don't give yourself

791
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: a defensive prowess, because look, you got enough defense on

792
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: if you got lou Dort, you got Jaylen Williams and

793
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: Shade Shae was one two and steals. We know what

794
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: lou Dort is even all defensive player. We know what

795
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: Jayalen Williams is even all defensive player. You got plenty

796
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: of defense. Why would you ever do that when you

797
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: got you won sixty eight games with that big lineup,

798
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: telling you what never and Shanney, you're saying what I'm saying.

799
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: I would have never changed my lineup.

800
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make them change my lineup of what

801
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: I've done all year. I won sixty eight games. I

802
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: don't care what nobody's say with that lineup. So you

803
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: don't do it, And then I don't want to. I

804
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: didn't want to say nothing about the light. The light

805
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: to ask, but you don't know what I'm saying. I

806
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: didn't want to say nothing. Well he's too light, you

807
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It ain't gonna work that way, man.

808
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, y'all, you don't change because I

809
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: can't do what you've been doing. Gp O, Choe and Joe.

810
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: I can make an adjustment. Once I see what you're doing.

811
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna adjust before I even get to

812
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: the damn game. Damn, I'm making adjustments when I don't

813
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: need to. If if if, if, I'm getting killed by

814
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: their smaller lineups with that, because he had the problem

815
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: is this is what Golden State got a lot of

816
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: teams to do. They Oh, I'm taking my bigs off

817
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: the court. No, y'all need to keep y'all bigs on

818
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: the court and punish them down low, give somebody to

819
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: play with their back to the basket and punish Draymond

820
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: or punish the punish Clay. But when you try to

821
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: go small this and that's what they wanted you to do.

822
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: They wanted you to take your big out. And now

823
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: Draymond's playing the five. You got iggy, and you got

824
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: all those little guys running around. That's not how you play.

825
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: And you play how you play, let them play how

826
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: you play, and didn't make adjustments accordingly.

827
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: Wait wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

828
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: Shannon Ojo just said about Golden State about you was

829
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: trying to adjust.

830
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: What did Minnesota do to.

831
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: Minnesota kept their digs and then kill them on that

832
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: small lineup and went, Adam. You you you've seen Randall.

833
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: He averaged third, you know what I'm saying. And then

834
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: they picked the big boy that came from Oklahoma.

835
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: Adams. They were killing them. They couldn't get.

836
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: A rebound, you know what I'm saying, And it was bad.

837
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: And then Oklahoma said doing the same thing. Right now,

838
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: they're getting one and done and they ain't getting no rebounds.

839
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: They're doing anything that's her.

840
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: I think, hey, look when you when you look at

841
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: the intangibles that Hartenstein brings, like he says, great picks

842
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: are coach or yeavy. He was saying he will lay

843
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: ward on them game, roll to the basket and get dunk.

844
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: Well, look when he.

845
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Rolled to the basket, even if he ain't got the

846
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: little floater, he makes great decisions by spreading out for

847
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: threes or hitting hungers for a live dunk or something like. Man,

848
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like they at least need

849
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: to even try to go back to it and look,

850
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: if it don't work in the first five or seven minutes, Okay,

851
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: we got but like you say, we won sixty eight

852
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: games off that.

853
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: Why are we changing when we're the best team the

854
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: whole time? Season. I never understand he Joe GP.

855
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 5: I hear y'all, uncle, I hear you too.

856
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: But but I think they they made that change in

857
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: that lineup something because Hard and Stegn they understand. Listen, Okay,

858
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: getting a few boards or getting a few put backs

859
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: or getting a few alleys, you know, coming off picks

860
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: and rolls and what or not, he's still a liability

861
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: on defense.

862
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: He's a liability.

863
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: And the way them goddamn paces transition when they do

864
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: grabbing boys off the court, they going up and down

865
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 3: and then it's like it's got damn fohone goddamn.

866
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Five and they understand that chability.

867
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: He ain't that much liability now. Turner in the game too.

868
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: All he gotta do is run, get down, get down

869
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: the flow. Man.

870
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm just justing he ain't that much liability. He gotta

871
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: get down the flock, like we said, he done played

872
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: all year like this, and O Joe, you gotta understand,

873
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: it's only seven games left, baby, It's only.

874
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: Seven games left. Baby. All you gotta do is go

875
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: in there and get busy, and y'all only gotta win, funk,

876
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And that's it.

877
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: You gotta suck it up during this time. Man, to me,

878
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: suck it up. You gotta be able to adjust to

879
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: everything that's gonna happen. And with this big dude, I

880
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: agree with Joe. He brings too much to their table.

881
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: He brings much. He brings too much, picks, he brings enough,

882
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: getting making making people all two shots. He rolled it

883
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: to the basket. And if he doing that and not

884
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: stopping it, then who's gonna make adjusting? They are, They're

885
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna start making adjustments. You know what I'm saying. Don't

886
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: just come in the game and say, oh, man, I

887
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: looked the film for two three days. Now I'm gonna

888
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: change my lineup? Man?

889
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: What ain't god? Man, I don't get it's one one

890
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: O Joe? What's one to one? Man? What are you

891
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: not losing? Two?

892
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

893
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: Even if you in a panic, to me, when you

894
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: change your lineup, that's a panic. Just speak with what

895
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: you got and see what happens. And poor he gonna

896
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: go back to his lineup.

897
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: No, he's not. No, he's not gp because he me

898
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: and Joe talked about this game one.

899
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: He started that Because I was looking at the lineup,

900
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: I was like, why is Wallace and say what he

901
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: gave he started this game one. He took Hard and

902
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: Stein out of the starting lineup and put Wallace in.

903
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Joe and that we talked about this. I was like, Joe,

904
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: I just don't understand that I'm gonna make an adjustment

905
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: when I need to.

906
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: If my car's.

907
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Running fine, I'm not gonna take it to the shop

908
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, change the transmission.

909
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: What the car go, Joe, Hey GP, I'm going along good.

910
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: I don't need It's not that.

911
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: A is not grinding. I can back up, I can

912
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: go forward. Why would I go to the mechanics they

913
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: tried to transmission when there's nothing wrong with a perfectly

914
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: good car. You won sixty eight games, you got the MVP,

915
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: you got one of the top defensive teams in basketball

916
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: with the big lineup, and in the most important series

917
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: of the OKC under Dagnaw, you make this change.

918
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: Now.

919
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Look, it could still work out, but I look, I

920
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: would I'm gonna make an adjustment when I need to

921
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: make an adjustment. And I don't think they needed to

922
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: make an adjustment. I agree, Man, most points scrawled the

923
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: bench in an NBA Finals game. Sam Cassell has the

924
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: record in nineteen ninety five. In game two, he had

925
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: thirty one Downtown Freddie Brown the SuperSonics now the OKC Thunder.

926
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy eight, Game one, he had thirty Bennadeck

927
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: Mathren Pacers twenty twenty five. Game three he had twenty seven,

928
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: Jason Terry Dallas Mavericks twenty eleven, Game six, twenty seven,

929
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: and Manu Ginobili two thousand and seven, Game four, twenty seven.

930
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: So Benedict Mathern had won a game. It's his playoff

931
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: career high, and he picked a great time to have it.

932
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: And he looked good too. Man, he looked, Damn Joe.

933
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: Jump on the bandwagon that Joe, don't do that. Erstanding.

934
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna be talking like this on Friday if okay,

935
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: see come back and win.

936
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So okay, see we we

937
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: can sit here and talk all that. It's still two

938
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: to one going into game four. Okay, See he has

939
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: just just understand that you get a win, and swot

940
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: get a win and go back, okay on the home

941
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: court advantage, back again to yourself. You know what I'm saying,

942
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: and that's what it is. But you gotta you guys understand. Well,

943
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: we got to give Indiana all this credit. They did

944
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: a great job of winning game game three. That's what

945
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. They're at home. Now, what the

946
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: okase he has to do is just come back. You

947
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: guys got are understand two times in his playoffs. Okay,

948
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: he has done this.

949
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: They have done this.

950
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: They have lost game one, came back in one game

951
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: and lost game three. You know what I'm saying. And

952
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: they've been in this situation before. Now you gotta come

953
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: into game four and just say, hey, this just win

954
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: this game. Shut everybody up, go back home, and we'll

955
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: see what happens.

956
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: That's all they got to do.

957
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: If they went and listen, what all they want to

958
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: do is go back, go back to ok Ce, tiede

959
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: and I got game five in game seven on my

960
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: home court.

961
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen.

962
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: Joe.

963
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: I bet you. I bet you got old Joe Friday

964
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: that they beat them along. I'm gonna beat them.

965
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: Hold on, you want the best. Something puts up, I'm

966
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: beat I bet it. Hey make it light of yourself,

967
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 3: make it light on yourself. Hey, anything goes with me, Okay,

968
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: Betty huh.

969
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, my WiFi is just lagged a little bit. Yeah,

970
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: you show. I'm sure if you want to, we can

971
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: go three. No no, no, no no no.

972
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 5: I got I got got child. I got child for

973
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 5: doing two weeks so.

974
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: I got you. Got a doul't support too. I want

975
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: about fifty nine hundred.

976
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 5: I got you, I got you baby, I got hey

977
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: so and listens.

978
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 3: Soon as GP paid me Friday, as soon as Joe

979
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: give me my my hundred, that's.

980
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: Keep me out of keep me out of this. I've

981
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: seen you doing. You see in my cashop. I just

982
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: let it sit there for a little while, Little I

983
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: got you.

984
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: Lou Williams had high praise for s g A today,

985
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: saying we're looking at Kobe Bryant being created.

986
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: Too soon for the Kobe comparisons. GP. You played with

987
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: Kobe at his absolute apex? Are we is?

988
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: This?

989
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: Is this a good comparison? Too soon? Nowhere there coch,

990
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: It's gonna be one Kobe. That's it. I don't care

991
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: what y'all say.

992
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: It's only one Kobe. Yeah, it's just like y'all telling

993
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: me either, say, uh, Joe Buckets over there, ain't nobody

994
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: like Joe. Joe can get buckets. You know what I'm saying.

995
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Don't y'all compare people to people, especially somebody like like

996
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant.

997
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: That's shame shape. Yeah, man, I don't think he Kobe yet,

998
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't think he ever

999
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: will be Kobe.

1000
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: He's a great basketball player, but you guys, slow down,

1001
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna be it ain't gonna be no code,

1002
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: no more cochek. But it was a different it's a

1003
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: different beats, you know what I'm saying. So don't don't

1004
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: compare him to that. And for y'all people to be

1005
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: even put people's name on other people, that's not for me.

1006
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: For me, I can see GP Joe Ojo.

1007
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: I can see the comparisons when people say style of

1008
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: play Jordan and Kobe, because the style of play is very,

1009
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: very similar. When I look at Shaye, I don't see

1010
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see anything that reminded me of Kobe. Honestly,

1011
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying the same thing that that's not that's not

1012
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm being no, that's not a knock that's not a

1013
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: knock on shape Because I say he's phenomenal. I think

1014
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: we all in agree, he's phenomenal. He earned the m

1015
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: VP this season. But when I watched his game, and

1016
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: I watched Kobe from day one when the air ball

1017
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: against Utah in the playoffs, so I watched him his

1018
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: entire career, I don't see I don't see Kobe.

1019
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't think oh man, I don't. I don't see that.

1020
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: Oh mean, Kobe was a different beast, Shanny. I'm just

1021
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: selling to y'all, it's a different it's a different beast.

1022
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: And then we can compare Jordan and Kobe, because Kobe

1023
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: tried to be like Jordan. Yes, so it's it's it's

1024
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, man. And I hate people

1025
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: that even try to compare anybody else's game to somebody

1026
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: you're putting you putting that man name on on greatness,

1027
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1028
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: So y'all stopped that. It's no comparison there. I don't

1029
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: think that.

1030
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: That's just like somebody saying and they play like you

1031
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: and football getting me man, Yeah, out of here, man, y'all,

1032
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking.

1033
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: Stupid right now. You know what I'm saying. I like

1034
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: doing dumb stuff, man, So just slow down, people.

1035
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: I think I think most of the time when it

1036
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: comes to people, you know, even even some of the

1037
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: elite players, some of those with great knowledge of basketball,

1038
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: become we become prisoners of the moment. They become prisoners

1039
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: of the moment seeing something that looks or depicts what.

1040
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 5: We're used to seeing in greatness as Kobe is. You know,

1041
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 5: the styles and the smoothness, the butter like style.

1042
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: The play is the somewhat similar, you know, being able

1043
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: to get to your shot, get to your median and

1044
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: when he rides up, he looked like Kobe a little bit.

1045
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 5: But s g A has his own style. SG has

1046
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 5: his own style.

1047
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: And even putting that pressure on SGA, even though he's

1048
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: won MVP and even though he has a toolbox, putting

1049
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: that person him comparing to Kobe, you shouldn't do that

1050
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: because Kobe is is.

1051
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: He's an iconic figure in his own.

1052
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 3: Right, and and the way he approach to the game

1053
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: is completely, completely, completely different, and he's in the class

1054
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: of his own where the comparisons shouldn't even be the

1055
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: greatest SGA when people.

1056
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: Trying to say out it's like when people say, uh Man,

1057
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: Lebron ain't Jordan.

1058
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: No Lebron game is like Magic.

1059
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the that's the comparison that you shouldn't make

1060
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: because both of those guys will pass first. Now, Lebron

1061
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: is a better score than look than than than than

1062
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: than than. Magic could rebound the ball better than Magic,

1063
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: but the way they orchestra, the way they control the

1064
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: ball game, both would pass first. Now, if you need

1065
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: me to go give you thirty, I think you know,

1066
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: I think Lebron is a better score. He could score

1067
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: the basketball better better than Magic. Magic taught them and

1068
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: both guys taught themselves out to shoot. Magic had that

1069
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: little push, that little what had to push GP you

1070
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: you oh, you know you play, you know what I'm saying.

1071
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: So he had that little push, that little push one handed,

1072
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: but it was effective. Magic, big guy six', nine could.

1073
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: Post magic would look at a you better have, somebody

1074
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: you better have your, boots phone and be ready to,

1075
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: play because if you were, Small magic was gonna post your.

1076
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: Ass Adie, shannon he he knew how to do the hook.

1077
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: Shot he baby hook that. Everything, see he was a little.

1078
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Different and the way what we should say About lebron And,

1079
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: magic they're both all around basketball, correct they're complete basketball.

1080
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Players they do everything you see What i'm. Saying so

1081
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: that's what when people compare to people and all that. Stuff,

1082
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: Man now that would be a great. Comparison, yes both of.

1083
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: Them two are complete basketball. Players they're all around. Player

1084
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: and then you gotta look At magic was six' nine

1085
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: and about, two something and then You got lebron six

1086
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: eight and. Two something so you gotta do you gotta

1087
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: understand they are. The comparison what? You, do now if

1088
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: You say lebron.

1089
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: Look, Like magic i'll, be, like, YEAH yeah i can. See,

1090
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: that true that's. Really true but we Should say shaye Looked.

1091
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: Like kobe? Stop it who? Made?

1092
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 5: That who who made?

1093
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: That?

1094
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 2: Comparison uh Lou.

1095
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: Will, okay hey to kind of answer your question that you,

1096
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: asked earlier when the last time we've seen a team

1097
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: like this win, a championship it would probably Be that.

1098
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: PISTONS team I think gp you played Against that. PISTON

1099
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: team i know. They, had yeah you had to mention

1100
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: that Many, are hey look they had about Three Four

1101
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: all stars, that year but they Had four, yeah yeah

1102
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: so but you KNOW they i don't. THINK not i

1103
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: don't think more than one person stood. Out there all

1104
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: they was by committee and they Attacked their lakers team

1105
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: man Like.

1106
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: Like joe they didn't Have. All star They Had, ben

1107
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: wallace They, had rashid They, had prince They, had chauncey

1108
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: so that that.

1109
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: Was there they had all five, basketball players Wasn't the

1110
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 6: they all had five basketball players and they, played together

1111
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 6: and then they had guys coming off the bench that

1112
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 6: was not, You feel and so you're right comparison to

1113
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 6: a one team that won a championship and that was

1114
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 6: an old four.

1115
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: Against us they have a. Superstar neither, you know all

1116
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: players all good.

1117
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: Basketball, PLAYERS, HEY gp i think When mail man, GOT

1118
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: hurt i think that really.

1119
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: Hurts, Y'ALL.

1120
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: Shannon i said, to everybody and, everybody said we were

1121
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: eighteen and two when call alone got hurt when he

1122
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: went down and blew us all up because we didn't

1123
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: have so we didn't have the structure, of everything and,

1124
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: we're applying we're trying to play a TRIANGLE and i

1125
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: was just trying to get custom to. The triangle and

1126
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: then you got to understand we had a lot of problems,

1127
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: within ourselves, you know going through what he was.

1128
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: Going through shaq was with a few men With doctor.

1129
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: Buss and we were we're in our Thing and carl

1130
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: kept us together because you Remember when carl got hurt

1131
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: and we were before eighteen and two and were always

1132
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: average was SEVENTEEN and i was. Average eighteen so for all,

1133
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: eighteen seventeen seventeen seventeen and it. Was flowing and, You're

1134
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: right karl alone took it away, from us and it blew.

1135
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Us up it blew. Us up when.

1136
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: THAT happened kd was online yesterday and had time to

1137
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: go back and forth with someone. On x it all

1138
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: started when he responded to a, TWEET saying i think

1139
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: it's time To Admit kevin durant's trajectory After Leading golden

1140
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: state is. VERY underwhelming, KD responded i. Highly disagreed wan

1141
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: a debate. Another guy the same, guy said. No disrespect

1142
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: you're one of, the best most skilled PLAYERS in, nba

1143
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: history but ever Since Leaving, golden state you haven't done

1144
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: much and you're going to be on your third team

1145
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: and then if you.

1146
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: Get traded if you think.

1147
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: You Stayed In, golden state you would have won More

1148
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Championships all stars fifty Forty NINETY All nba official.

1149
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: BUCKET brother i also got a.

1150
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: CAREER high sis one year hit thirty, thousand points won

1151
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: a couple of gold MEDALS, and mvp or what A

1152
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: career i'm STILL going i.

1153
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: LOVE life i haven't. Done much it's just, your opinion

1154
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: not based.

1155
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: On facts, once again your statement is talking about me as,

1156
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: an individual right because you can't talk about my teams

1157
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: without talking about everybody else, As well so without them

1158
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: being involved in, the convent it comes down to.

1159
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: Just me i've laid it Out what.

1160
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: I've done if you want to talk about basketball as a,

1161
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: team sport those are two.

1162
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: Separate things this is What.

1163
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: WE kevin i agree With what, kevin says but if

1164
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: we look, at it that's not how They. Judge lebron

1165
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: that's not how they've EVER. Done gp they don't judge great.

1166
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: Like that, they're like either, you won because the winners

1167
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: get the credit and when, they lose they get.

1168
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: The blame that's just the way.

1169
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 5: It.

1170
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: Is right when you're a, Great, player shinny you're always

1171
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: gonna take. The black it ALWAYS we i don't care what.

1172
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: Nobody say when you're a focal point of everything that,

1173
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: you lose you're gonna get.

1174
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: The black it's just that you gotta take it the way.

1175
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: It is you gotta take the good for. The bad

1176
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: you Know what. I'm saying you're gonna take it when,

1177
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: It's good so when, it's bad. Take it you Know what.

1178
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying And k kate is. My guy, you know

1179
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: that's my.

1180
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: Little youngster so he's gonna go back. At you kd leave. It,

1181
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: alone man you know how great. You is just come

1182
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: back what you. Gotta, do man it is what. It is,

1183
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: you know once you come to. A TEAM and I

1184
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: think kat has not been on a good basketball team

1185
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: since He Left. Golden state I'M just i don't believe

1186
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: that he hasn't been on a good. Basketball team he

1187
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: had another great next twoing that can make shots and.

1188
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: Do everything You remember draymond was was, was fresh he.

1189
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: Was young you had A. Young clay you Have An.

1190
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: Igua dollar you had a lot of good basketball players.

1191
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: Over. Here daddy you know you can get Around and

1192
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: living And ed, living, SAID well i. Got, him god

1193
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: he changed the.

1194
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: Game around you Know what. I'm saying it's deep you

1195
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: you Know what.

1196
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm Saying, and loan but he's got an if he

1197
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: goes to a good, basketball team if he gets Traded,

1198
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: for phoenix then he can do with IT because i

1199
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: don't think nobody can still. Stop it he can score

1200
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: the basketball. Too well he's still average twenty six. This

1201
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: year ye're, the same you Know what. I'm saying it's

1202
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: just that you just are a bad. Basketball team and

1203
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: what happens is if he gets traded to, somebody good

1204
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: he can he can show that skill again of what

1205
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: he is and he hasn't lost A step i don't

1206
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: care what. You say you don't have to lose the

1207
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: step up in this in, this era IN, this nba

1208
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: because all you got to do is be able, to

1209
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: score and he can still score, The, basketball joe before.

1210
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: You go the problem that he's gonna run into is

1211
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: that when he Went To, golden state he was a,

1212
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: free agent so they didn't have to give. Up anything

1213
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: if you trade, for him you're gonna lose some of.

1214
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: Your depth that's. What happened that's what Happened. With phoenix,

1215
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah they, got it but look at what they

1216
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: had to give up to, get, It, right okay and now,

1217
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: you trade now you Bring In, bradley beal you had

1218
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: to give up. More depth and THE analogy i like

1219
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: THE u gp is Like when carmelo Went from Denver

1220
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: To new york where you had to give up so

1221
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: much to. Get him so when he, got there he

1222
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: damned there. By himself SO. And kd gold you, got

1223
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: storing but you got. No depth look at the teams

1224
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: THAT the, nba finals what do they?

1225
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: Have depth.

1226
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Both they don't have a PLAYER that's, i mean you

1227
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: Might say shade might be the closest thing and the equivalent,

1228
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: to him but what do.

1229
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: They have look at the look at.

1230
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Their benches look at anytime a BOOK on kd and

1231
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: they leave the court the benches was. Was awful so

1232
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: when you can go somewhe as a free agent and

1233
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: they don't have to give up any compensation.

1234
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: For, you.

1235
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Now, But LOOK. Kevin kd he's not gonna win. THIS

1236
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: argument i don't care what and everything that he said.

1237
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: Is true he's the he's he's Our greatest olympian, basketball,

1238
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: player no no doubt.

1239
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: About it but he was NEVER and i used analogy.

1240
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: New edition he was never gonna be accepted LIKE THE o, G, Members,

1241
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: Ronnie bobby Ricky.

1242
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: And mike he was never because you know what He Was.

1243
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: Johnny Gill johnny gil could not say. Them all but

1244
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: he didn't grow up In.

1245
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: Rock ferry.

1246
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: So when you look, at it it's like it is

1247
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: it's rare that you have somebody that comes onto a

1248
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: group that that wasn't a part of the original group

1249
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: and people.

1250
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: Remember it so THAT'S what.

1251
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: KD was kd, Is great he's, historically great and we

1252
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: might not ever feel guy his size that Could handle

1253
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: dirk was. His Hype but dirk shot that. One legged

1254
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: dirk wasn't putting the ball on the floor getting to

1255
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: the REALM. Like kd he wasn't putting the ball on

1256
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: the floor and getting TO the MIDI. Like Kd, AS

1257
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: shannon I gotta i gotta correct you. On that the

1258
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: greatest lift In. Is carmel oh You Put, carmelo okay

1259
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: because he he done scored all the points in. The

1260
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: thing he did everything in a Lot of olympics that

1261
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: he got all the do it off. The, beach yeah

1262
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: he got all. The records so if you want to

1263
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: say doing all accomplishment In the olympics as, one Player.

1264
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: That's carmelo know what's, Your Take, joe.

1265
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Man listen as far AS uh kd moving around going

1266
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: to a, new, TEAM uh i want to see him go, Somewhere,

1267
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: man well he don't have to do much.

1268
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: Dirty. WORK fellas i want to see him go somewhere

1269
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: where he, can just, you know kind.

1270
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: Of.

1271
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: Thrive, offensively, yeah defensively he gonna make.

1272
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: A difference but if you put him on any team

1273
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: that's pretty GOOD, and gp, you notice he gonna take

1274
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: him over.

1275
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: The, top man he's gonna take him to that.

1276
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 1: Next level what they try to Whether It's, san antonio Whether,

1277
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: it's houston Whether, it's, detroit.

1278
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: Wherever wherever it.

1279
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: May, BE uh i just want to see him get

1280
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: get somewhere to where, you know he can catapult a

1281
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: team to the.

1282
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: Next, level man what Team? George? What what What team

1283
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: georgia you? Take that that that? WOULD be i mean

1284
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: just depends on what.

1285
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: We gotta what you gotta give up to, Get Him,

1286
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: LIKE houston i love three team deal and give away

1287
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: two of them little Players. From houston keep your core

1288
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, of core and then you'll you can she'll. Be,

1289
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: good yeah cause you gonna probably. Have to the thing

1290
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: is you're probably gonna have to give Up shot Good And.

1291
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Green jalen green care, About That, jalen green as,

1292
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: you know but you got all the other younger players

1293
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: Around because i'm not giving up On.

1294
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: Men thompson i'm not Giving. Up thompson i'm. Not nothing

1295
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: and You know shak you know. He's big oh, YOU

1296
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: know i CAN'T see i Can't see houston Giving up.

1297
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: Shane going you don't think? So now MAYBE now.

1298
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: I know i don't know if the money add up

1299
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: if you Give Up Jabbari. Smith JR but i don't

1300
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: see them giving Up sing.

1301
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: GOOON man i don't give them Up.

1302
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: NEITHER shannon i would Give up green and ro. And

1303
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: problem but how we how do we make the? Money

1304
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: right but you gotta go on three, Team trade That's what.

1305
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying you gotta bring a thirteen in to bring

1306
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: them moving there because the third team can give up some.

1307
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Draft picks you're gonna have to least give up three

1308
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: first round draft picks for a. Half CHEAP and i

1309
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you'll have to give up that much

1310
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: OF no GP because i think you're gonna look at.

1311
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: His age he's gonna be, thirty seven plus his. Injury History, But,

1312
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: dan shannon you should have got to think. About it

1313
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: the other team's gotta get.

1314
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: Something too there are third team out to get at

1315
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: least one first round because think.

1316
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: About it because here, another, thing guys we gotta.

1317
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: Thank you we gotta take, INTO Consideration, O, Joe yeah

1318
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: luca doncons at, twenty five Win For anthony davis and

1319
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: another in a first round pick at.

1320
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: Twenty. Five bro But, but shannon you went for a.

1321
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: Day exactly davis is pretty. Goddamn cook hell. Watches out

1322
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: you know What he's he's thirty two with the.

1323
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Injury History and i'm giving you a guy that just

1324
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: took the team TO the NBA five if at, twenty

1325
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: five and look what he did when he came back

1326
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: To the lakers and then do it.

1327
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: Too, Much, hey hey we don't get. It right one ain't.

1328
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: Gonna work we're gonna. Get it we're gonna get. It right.

1329
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: He, go hey as a matter, of fact He traded lebron,

1330
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: RIGHT now i know you a big l, a Thing

1331
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: but I'm a. Lebron, fan, no, no, No no I'm

1332
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 1: with i'm a fan of he. Is too but when,

1333
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: We leave i'm. GOING somewhere i don't Know where, i'm

1334
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: Going but i'm. Going somewhere you.

1335
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: Like traveling, Off, STARS hey i. Get, it hey, at

1336
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: first My first.

1337
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: At first kobe was. MY guy i Was a, Kobe

1338
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: fan burns one of my. Best, friends uh he Was a.

1339
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: Lebron fan now he Knew About kevin Duran Because kevin

1340
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: durant is from, That Area Prince, george county so that

1341
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: d M. V a, HE said i tell YOU what.

1342
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: I do, He said i'll let You have i'll let

1343
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: You have lebron if you Give me Kevin. Dur red,

1344
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: he said as a matter, OF fact i Give you

1345
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: kobe AND leb, i said, hold on you're gonna Get

1346
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: me Kobe and lebron and all you Want Is kevin

1347
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: DURRANT because i was supposed to get the next guy

1348
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: to come out the, Next Year So kevin durant theoretic

1349
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. MY player, i, said, Okay DONE

1350
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: so I got, I said I got Covid and broun bro.

1351
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: You high so He's been so he got KD and

1352
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: I got Kobe. And lebron, but uh IT'S just I don't,

1353
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean i'm just trying to figure out where can

1354
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: he go where they don't have to give they don't

1355
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: have to give up. Their depth because you look at these,

1356
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: two teams what got them to where, they are what's? Their,

1357
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: DEPTH yeah i think he goes Back To. GOLDEN state i, was,

1358
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: thinking no he ain't. Going back you don't want to

1359
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: go back there because because the way where. It ended

1360
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: but if he goes, BACK there i guarantee you they'll

1361
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: be they'll they'll they'll be a contingent for.

1362
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: The championship oh well at.

1363
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: First break but here's, the, Thing though you Giving, Up

1364
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: kaminga you Giving, up moody you giving up all.

1365
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 7: Those guys, get enough you're gonna. GIVE up i think

1366
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 7: two of them you'll. Open there you. Give up and But,

1367
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 7: but shan they're not. Playing anyway It, doesn't matt you're

1368
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 7: gonna give up to.

1369
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: Me anyway he's.

1370
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: Gonna lead he's. Gonna lead now they're gonna try to trade.

1371
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: Him Anyway, even boody you don't even play. Him anyway

1372
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: you don't. Play him so you're gonna be the. Same

1373
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: way you're Gonna have, Butler uh curry uh and and And.

1374
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: Then draymond that's. YOUR four I and i don't care

1375
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: how these. Dudes is they still was in the playoffs

1376
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: and making noise this year being.

1377
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: That way only reason they Lost to minnesota is Because

1378
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: that curry.

1379
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: GOT hurt i understand if you keep them other little

1380
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: cords around you to play, their roles so they will

1381
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: be a good basketball team for him to go back

1382
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: to and and he can go and HE and i

1383
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: guarantee that they will still be in the playoffs and

1384
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: then gonna make a run for a championship.

1385
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: With him that's all.

1386
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: They needed they just, needed him and then You bake

1387
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: butler become the. Third option, come, on man they gonna

1388
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: be pretty good because that's what they did when they

1389
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: when they want, a champion they won the.

1390
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: Two championship they, Had him clay.

1391
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: A Right and drey mind doing EVERYTHING, That, gp man

1392
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: thanks for, joining. Us man we know you got a. Business.

1393
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: Schedule man thanks for jumping on with, us tonight breaking the. Game,

1394
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: down hey when you get, a, few hey maybe come

1395
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: back and break it down. With it if we get a,

1396
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: game seven come back and finishing up. With us, you,

1397
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: know man y'all y'all gotta do is, ask. Me man

1398
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, y'all man, y'all know y'all fa fath, APPRECIATE.

1399
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: That gp we go this week, This, show, yes sir