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Speaker 1: The Big Vets on Campus podcast podcast podca.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go running the corn.

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Speaker 3: Ten seconds remaining, so it just goes throw un to

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Speaker 3: the basket, under the basket.

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Speaker 2: It's the true for the wind.

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Speaker 4: God, I'm Verracle.

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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 2: Water hit that one from a fucking lot. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: BBOC Live.

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Speaker 1: It is time to talk about one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: endings in the history of March madness.

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Speaker 2: That just happens.

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Speaker 1: Number one seeds up fifteen points or more at halftime,

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Speaker 1: we're one hundred and thirty four and oh leading into

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Speaker 1: this moment.

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Speaker 2: One big loss in that loss column now ends.

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Speaker 1: I did my part. I texted the Gifford and Duck.

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Speaker 1: It was fifteen point game in half. I was like,

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Speaker 1: this game's done though, it was time to start just

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Speaker 1: hopping in. We got the look aheadline. They're laying three

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Speaker 1: and a half against the fighting line. I like that,

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Speaker 1: let's start talking about it and then just slowly chipping away.

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Speaker 2: At the end of that game, it.

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Speaker 1: Still felt like Yukon was one big shot away, leaving

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Speaker 1: points on the charity stripe, like this was just going

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Speaker 1: to slip through their fingers, and then that final possession.

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Speaker 1: What was your thought as it was all happening.

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Speaker 3: Doug, I'm still stunned by the comeback, and I was

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Speaker 3: stunned because Yukon did not start this game out really

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Speaker 3: giving us any indication that there was going to be

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Speaker 3: some sort of magical afternoon. They were five out of

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Speaker 3: twenty three from three point range, they had missed.

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Speaker 2: Some foul shots.

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Speaker 3: It just the whole offensive effort looked so disjointed against

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Speaker 2: Duke had a ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Percent chance to win this game with eighteen minutes ago

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Speaker 3: they were up seventeen, and so this may end up

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Speaker 3: being more about a Duke collapse than anything else. But

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Speaker 3: once Yukon started getting the ball inside and started getting rolling,

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Speaker 3: finishing at the rim, and started to get to the

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Speaker 3: line a little bit more frequently, you could kind of

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Speaker 3: see this team start to regain their confidence. It translated

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Speaker 3: a little bit on the defensive end, but it seemed

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Speaker 3: to teeter around five or seven points and Yukon just

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Speaker 3: and they were able to get some stops. It was

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Speaker 3: just absolutely incredible that that last possession was I mean,

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Speaker 3: it didn't look like Duke panic. It looked like he

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Speaker 3: they got to Boozer, and then he tried to kind

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Speaker 3: breaking towards the basket, and Yukon just showed up and

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Speaker 3: made a play on defense and you have a made

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Speaker 3: a scramble drill at the end, and hey pulled up

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Speaker 3: for three and hit it.

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Speaker 1: Credit to both to the kids and to the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff for telling Caravan and Mullins, you guys haven't able

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Speaker 2: Really this entire tournament. Keep firing them.

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Speaker 1: For Caravan and Mullens hit their last three point attempts

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Speaker 1: after going over in that game. That's a lot about

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Speaker 1: the confidence that they had in themselves. You could just

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the bench too for a second,

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Speaker 1: because Cale Foster, it was an incredible story in the

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Speaker 1: last round against Saint John's. I'm not sure they get

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Speaker 2: He was a shell of himself here, like he.

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Speaker 1: Was laboring through. It was not impactful. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: otherwise Boozer gave you a solid Boozer game. You know,

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Speaker 1: Evans in terms of shot making, but he still had

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's what swung.

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Speaker 1: It or at least kept the door open so that

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a contributing factor. And Foster certainly

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Speaker 3: Gangba it looked a little bit more comfortable and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think being shorthanded and having two key pieces that

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Speaker 3: I mean Caleb Poster. It's insane that he was able

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Speaker 3: Yukon made plays and they never quit, they never hung

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Speaker 3: you don't see it play out that way very frequently.

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Speaker 3: I think if that sequence played out another ninety nine times,

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Speaker 3: Duke would probably end up winning a good majority of

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Speaker 3: those games. But that's why they call it March Madness,

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Speaker 3: I guess. So it was just incredible to see that

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Speaker 2: Some of the guys later in the game. You could

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Speaker 1: You could also say it was Luke Murray, you know,

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Speaker 1: drawn up the right kind of plays for the Huskies.

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Speaker 1: It was clear you know down the stretch that they

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Speaker 1: But let's zoom out for a second here. We've sung

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Speaker 1: the praises of John Shire. We talked about it in

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Speaker 1: is back to back years now that they should have

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Speaker 1: particular it's juxtaposed to Michigan and Arizona just sprinting through

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Speaker 1: How much do you think this is going to hang

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Speaker 1: a converse point both outside the program for all of

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Speaker 1: us talking heads, but also inside a little soul searching,

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Speaker 1: like what do I need to do to close out

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Speaker 3: I mean, back to back years where Duke has had

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Speaker 3: the last couple of minutes certainly becomes more than just

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Speaker 3: a coincidence. When it happens twice, now it's a trend.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll ste over it for some time. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that in any sort of situation, coaches would

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Speaker 3: something else, there could be some of that. But I'll

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Speaker 3: then it really starts to become an inward conversation about

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Speaker 3: what the hell are we doing wrong to not be

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Speaker 1: So we're going to get into the look aheadlines for

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Speaker 1: the Final four. They are alive right now, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and just drop them for you guys. We got Illinois

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Speaker 1: heavyweight bout between Michigan and Arizona. Michigan is a short

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Speaker 2: Seven and a half. I just want to go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Real quick and talk through the Tennessee Michigan game. Obviously

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Speaker 1: far less drama, bit of a snoozer. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: say this. On Saturday, I talked about it on BBOC Live.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes like we all get a little too cute, both

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Speaker 2: We're trying to talk ourselves into the underdog.

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Speaker 1: The Wolverines are the third highest rated team in ken Pom,

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Speaker 1: dating all the way back to ninety seven, behind just

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Duke and ninety nine Duke.

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Speaker 2: That's it, and they.

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Speaker 1: Needed to adjust to life after LJK Song went down.

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Speaker 1: They have McKenny has played a great tournament. Twelve points

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Speaker 1: per game off the bench, sixty three percent shooting. He's

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Speaker 1: as the backup point guard. This is exactly what they needed.

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Speaker 1: It was the only tiny, you know, thing that you

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Speaker 1: could nitpick in this team, and now that's gone. They

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Speaker 1: get to the tin, they get to the line, they

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Speaker 1: rebounded a championship level at times. They handle Illinois coast

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Speaker 1: Let me start there, your overall thoughts on this game,

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Speaker 1: the fact that Tennessee just couldn't get off the map,

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Speaker 2: But even looking ahead, is this.

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Speaker 1: Michigan team as good as the analytics believe that they are,

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Speaker 1: and if so, do you think this line is handicapped

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll start with the twenty one zero run that

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Speaker 3: Michigan went on in the first half. You just can't

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Speaker 3: without scoring the basketball against what appears more and more

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Speaker 3: to be the best momentum team in this tournament, still remaining.

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Speaker 3: Every time we see Michigan in these tightly contested games,

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Speaker 3: they always find to shut their opponent down defensively turn

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Speaker 3: that into runouts on the offensive end. And those runs

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Speaker 3: recent contest, but today it was one of those epic

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Speaker 3: They just couldn't make any shots. And you kind of

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Speaker 2: Let's talk Iowa, Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Some line movement already for this look ahead, Illinois down

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to look into this one extensively

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Speaker 2: It's not that they don't have shooters. So there's just so.

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Speaker 1: All right back into it here, let's talk a bit

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Speaker 1: about teams to win the national title in the futures

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Speaker 1: market right now.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we're at the final four. But if you want

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Speaker 2: to grab Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Plus one seventy Michigan plus one fifty five Yukon plus

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Speaker 1: six fifty Illinois plus four to twenty.

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Speaker 2: That caught my attention.

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Speaker 1: You can also get into the exact matchup of the

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Speaker 1: title game, or you know who's going to win the

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Speaker 1: exact outcome.

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Speaker 2: Any of those do you think there's value in it?

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Speaker 1: Obviously got to crunch through the numbers, But right now,

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Speaker 1: gun to your head, who do you think plays in

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Speaker 1: the title game?

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Speaker 2: And who do you think cuts down the nuts?

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Speaker 3: More and more I watch Arizona, I think it's theirs

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Speaker 3: to lose, so I think they advance and I think

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Speaker 3: Illinois will advance. Both these final four games are going

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Speaker 3: to be exquisite matchups. I think they're both going to

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Speaker 3: be very tight competitive matchups, but I think Arizona and

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Speaker 3: Illinois will advance and Arizona will win.

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Speaker 2: Yea, Arizona over Illinois.

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Speaker 1: For the record, the exact outcome is plus three ninety

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Speaker 1: and if you get that clearly, you know, in barring

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Speaker 1: any injuries, Arizona is going to be favored. So then

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Speaker 1: you can hedge a little bit by taking Illinois plus

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Speaker 1: the points. I would imagine that it's not going to

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Speaker 1: be more than three and a half or four at max,

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Speaker 1: and probably a little bit less in terms of how

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Speaker 1: the performances shake out anything else. In terms of Arizona

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Speaker 1: their style of play. Let's dive into the specifics of

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Speaker 1: a matchup against Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the speed of.

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Speaker 1: That game favors either one of the teams? Do you

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Speaker 1: think Illinois would be better suited to play more of

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Speaker 1: a methodical style and you know, kind of cut down

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Speaker 1: on some transition looks for the Wildcats. Where do you

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Speaker 1: think that game lands, given how these teams like to play,

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Speaker 1: how they've won throughout the course of the year, Because

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Speaker 1: a lot of times the calling card is we have

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Speaker 1: size and we can make it difficult on teams that

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Speaker 1: don't have that kind of size, a strength for strength

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Speaker 1: battle all of a sudden some of the more you know,

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Speaker 1: the X factors, the intangibles come into play as opposed

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Speaker 1: to these other matchups that they've won in you know,

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Speaker 1: making it to the final four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be really interested to see how or who

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Speaker 3: I should say if this is the hypothetical National championship matchup,

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Speaker 3: which team controls the pace? Illinois had routinely played against

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Speaker 3: teams that wanted to get up and down this season

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Speaker 3: in the Big Ten Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and Illinois. While

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Speaker 3: they're very efficient offensively and they are involved in a

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Speaker 3: lot of high scoring games, they play at a very

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Speaker 3: very slow pace. And I would worry about the speed

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Speaker 3: of Arizona and how they can get out and transition

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Speaker 3: and how they just are monsters at and around the rim.

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Speaker 3: Does Illinois have any defensive answers there? And can Illinois

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Speaker 3: make any shots? Will they be able to avoid the

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Speaker 3: cold shooting start, will they be.

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Speaker 2: Able to.

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Speaker 3: Hit threes when they are pro cured. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: saw it against Iowa where it was just a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a struggle, and that is absolutely a situation

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Speaker 3: where you'd want to avoid the cold start, but I

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Speaker 3: think it would create some unique defensive challenges for Illinois,

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Speaker 3: just trying to handle all the guys for Illinois that

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Speaker 3: or excuse me, for Arizona that can get to the

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Speaker 3: rim and finish at the Cup.

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Speaker 1: That's basically all my thoughts on this one. I still

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Speaker 1: need to decompress from it. Like watching the last three

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Speaker 1: minutes of Yukon Duke, I was pulling for Yukon to

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Speaker 1: pull it off. I mean just I didn't have any

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Speaker 1: skin in the game from a betting perspective, I had

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Speaker 1: a double result that was flipped, so I was drawing dead.

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Speaker 1: I went with a Yukon first athlete and a Duke win.

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Speaker 1: But even so, there was just something about this Duke

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Speaker 1: team I felt without them being at full health, I

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Speaker 1: didn't think it would be the best product in the

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Speaker 1: final four or them.

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Speaker 2: They still could have won the national championship.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason why they would have been drawing dead,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they would have got healthier with you know,

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Speaker 1: five days off to heal up for in Gangba and Foster.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad that it's Yukon. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to make for a fascinating matchup. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to allow Herly and his staff to try to elevate

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Speaker 1: these guys and the other piece of it, and we

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Speaker 1: saw it in the last five minutes of that game.

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Speaker 1: Is Yukon the best team in the country when they're

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Speaker 1: knocking down the perimeter shots. That's like kind of the

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Speaker 1: running joke here at BBOC over the years, we've fallen

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Speaker 1: in love with great offensive rebounding teams like Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M, or great defensive teams like Patinos Saint John's.

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Speaker 1: You know, they can just make shots, they'd be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a big hypothetical, but at least we saw

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Speaker 1: it in crunch time and earlier in the season when

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Speaker 1: they had a little bit more continuity and a little

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Speaker 1: bit more momentum from the perimeter, they looked like absolute killers.

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Speaker 1: So it would be amazing if this team showed up

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Speaker 1: and just shot thirty five percent. Be even keel, don't

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Speaker 1: go for those over eight stretches were all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you're shooting yourself out of a game.

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Speaker 2: If they can play and be.

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit above average from distance, do you

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Speaker 1: think in that hypothetical everyone else is playing the same

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Speaker 1: way that they are right now? Do you think they're

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Speaker 1: right on par or do you think they're a cut

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Speaker 1: below the absolute ceiling for these other three teams in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to discredit anything that Dan

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Speaker 3: Hurley's doing over there. And when you look at these

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Speaker 3: they've already beaten Illinois once this season, so they should

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Speaker 3: have some confidence in facing them a second time. I

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Speaker 3: think that Yukon has to feel really good about where

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Speaker 3: they're at. They played Arizona very, very competitively earlier this season,

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Speaker 3: lost by just four points. If you add some outside

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Speaker 3: shooting from a team that's been cold from deep for

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Speaker 3: some time, I think that Yukon is every bit as

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Speaker 3: dangerous as anyone else to win this Final four. So no,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't put them a notch below. They're priced a

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Speaker 3: notch below. But this team, if they find some outside shooting, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think we see them kind of play at a

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Speaker 3: level that makes you think, man, this team's the best

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Speaker 3: team or the team that can win the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Duke never got to that point.

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Speaker 1: For me.

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Speaker 3: I watched all these number one seeds, I watched Michigan,

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Speaker 3: I watched Arizona. When you watch Duke, it's not that

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Speaker 3: sort of wow factor where it's like you just jump

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Speaker 3: out of your seat with what they're doing to the opponent.

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Speaker 3: I just all tournament, I just didn't see that for Duke,

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Speaker 3: and we saw Duke have chances to lose every game

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Speaker 3: they played. So I think that Yukon. You know, the

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Speaker 3: other thing we see from a team that's kind of

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Speaker 3: down and out as far as like, oh, this team

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Speaker 3: doesn't have any chance to come back and they actually do,

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Speaker 3: is they really use that as a springboard to the

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Speaker 3: future games that they play. So Yukon could I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be surprised at all if they just go on a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a run here and they could certainly

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Speaker 3: play for the national title.

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