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Speaker 1: that don't worry Darling press tour. God is not in

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Speaker 1: firing Virgos from do you not hear about this? No?

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Speaker 1: Tell me all about it? Oh my god. She fired

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Speaker 1: Virgos just because she doesn't like virgo energy. So Heather Morris,

428
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Speaker 1: who famously played Britney Espierce, unkly who was famously before

429
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: that backup ancer for so many people Beyonce JL set

430
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: on a podcast interview recently, then JL hates Virgos and

431
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: has fired people on her I think not her staff,

432
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: but definitely her backup dancing or just people on her

433
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: her dancers basically for being virgos, which is that is iconic, iconic,

434
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: the perfect time to mention that we're in Virgo season.

435
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: This is is lining up so perfectly after Renissans comes out,

436
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: after a song called Virgo's Groove is in all of

437
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: our minds. I mean literally, the world's most famous virgo

438
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: is stomping the yard right now, stopping the yard after

439
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: JL is doing a fake plantation wedding where you know,

440
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: she um like, there's just so much going on here,

441
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 1: and I think it's all fantastic. And this is not

442
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: to say that like I think any less of JLO.

443
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so crazy how all of this

444
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: is happening. The JLO news of the past two years

445
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: has been sumptuous. Yeah, I mean, she's certainly in an era.

446
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean she's in her she's in her benefit two

447
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: point l era, she's in her post hustlers. I didn't

448
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: get the nomination. So fuck y'all. I did the Super Bowl.

449
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: She's in She's in her post apex apex. Yeah, that's

450
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: what is happening. She is in her chares Ard. But

451
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Speaker 1: your chars Ard is your apex. Now she's back to

452
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: char Mander. And you think she's that char Mander, you

453
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: think she's all, you think she's a again. I'm just

454
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: thinking she's a chars Are. But the chars are like,

455
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: don't don't spit fire the way that he You know

456
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: what she's giving, she's giving cranky Charis remember when the

457
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Big Bill. Basically the moral lesson of that era of

458
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: Pokemon was that Ash allowed char Million to evolve too early,

459
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: and so remember when Ash had to like sucking asshole

460
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: but literally get rude, cranky, Like literally Charles was giving

461
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: diva behavior like it was giving not doing what was told.

462
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: It was very much giving, barely even coming out of

463
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: the poke ball as if it was a goddamn trailer

464
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: on the Sony lot. And Charis Art says, I won't

465
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: come out of my poke ball, not for no one.

466
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: I said, get the director to come to me. Meanwhile,

467
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: you have like fucking professionals, you have piggiotos waiting in

468
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: their balls. Florence Pugh's just being like, Hi, um, you're

469
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: making this a toxic environment. You're I'm not doing press

470
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: for you. Wait. Literally, there is no actress that gives

471
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Piggioto more than Florence Pew And I am so proud

472
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: there you really she really does give Piggioto and Piggioto

473
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: is I. I remember when when I had a pigeon.

474
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, like when my Pokemon Piggioto

475
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: was evolving to Pigot, I was like, I know this

476
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: is something beneficial to me, but like, I don't want

477
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: this girl here. I'd rather have Piggioto, Like that's my

478
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: diva doll. Like that's personally for me, my girl. Yeah,

479
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: Like I understand kids have to grow up, but in

480
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: so many words, I don't think so, honey. You know

481
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think I do. I really think

482
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: I do well. Which speaking of that, because you will

483
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: not be able to join me for this next um

484
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: segment of the podcast, because it's my really great interview

485
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: with Jennifer Lewis. You did not get to do and

486
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Would you like to do

487
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: it now because I know something that's on your mind,

488
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: spirit and heart. I would love to then at this

489
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: time I will ready the phone, which is how I

490
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: keep time for I don't think so, honey. This is

491
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang's early a third of the way into the episode,

492
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: and I don't think so, honey. This really doesn't happen

493
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: very often. But it's happening today tonight wherever you're listening

494
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: to this, and it's time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

495
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy International Airport, every damn terminal, everything about

496
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: this fucking place. Why did we ever think for a

497
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: second that it was any better, any measure better than

498
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: LaGuardia was ten years ago. LaGuardia is that girl now,

499
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: make no mistake. LaGuardia is a pleasure to have in

500
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: class now that she's undergone the reserv renovation. But John F.

501
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: Kennedy has always been garbage. It's horrible to get to

502
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: no matter how you get the only the big draw

503
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: of it now is to go to the tw A Hotel. Honey.

504
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in a Stanley Kubrick movie,

505
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: you bitch. I want to fly out of there. And

506
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: why did you make it so difficult for me to

507
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: just find a lounge to go to and have a

508
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: private quiet spot to record my podcast with legend, Hollywood

509
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: legend Jennifer Lewis, my best friend's co star, Jennifer Lewis.

510
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: Terminal seven is the worst, worst, worst, worst part of

511
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: New York City period, the worst people, the worst fucking

512
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: place to be. Oh my god, you had been there

513
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: with me. If you had been there with me that

514
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: day trying to figure out how to get into that

515
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: damn lounge, you would have snapped along with me because

516
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: it's that flop International Lounge, right, it's the flop International Lounge,

517
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: but they make it fucking hell. They you solve ten

518
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: fucking bridge troll riddles to get inside. I went through security.

519
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Then they said because I had my my my boarding

520
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: past for this international flight print printed from my original

521
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: uh place whatever. I won't get into it, but they

522
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: were like, you need a written letter of permission at

523
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: the British Airways Satellites Lounge, which is fucking trash dealt.

524
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: It will forever be that girl. You can never be

525
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Delta Lounge, you can never be American Express Centurion Lounge.

526
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: It was disgusting. It's run by all these gate keeping.

527
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's literal gate keeping is that it's worst at the lounges.

528
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: Shall we say, I'm sorry. I know it's hacked to

529
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: complain about air air travel, but it was it what

530
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: it is, what it is. It's like, you can't it's

531
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: not hack if it's like a universal human experience that,

532
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, everyone hates traveling via air. I don't

533
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: blame Taylor sometimes for flying the job. I'm serious JFK.

534
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I had to tell Wait Matt literally for Simmon's Baseball.

535
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: I had to tell I had to tell people on

536
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: our team, on our management team. It was like, no

537
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: more flying out of JFK, nomber flying in or I

538
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: was like LaGuardia is LaGuardia as the default from going forward.

539
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: It's it's I'm a JFK girl. No, I think I

540
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: think it's just because I think it's just because I

541
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: can be so autopilot there now, because I fly in

542
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: and out of there so much that I don't have

543
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: to literally at all, even look up from from like

544
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: I can just go, go, go, go, go and go

545
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: exactly what I want to go and get on the

546
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: plane because I don't want any nonsense. But honestly, I

547
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: do have to see what LaGuardia is giving now post renovation,

548
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen it. It's giving everything that can

549
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: be given and gotten. It's giving clamor, it's giving beautiful

550
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: water features. Matt. I know you fly Delta. The Delta

551
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: terminal JFK is decent. But if you think about if

552
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: your gate is fucking be of any five or whatever,

553
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: the funk if your number is in the double digits,

554
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: the walk is gang. You are walking and you can't

555
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: at a certain point, you can't. You can't do that. No,

556
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: I literally you are actually slaying when you say this,

557
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: because there have been times where I'm like, it's like

558
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: twenty minute walk to get there. It's a it's crazy. Yeah,

559
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: LaGuardia has it figured out. Fear. There's this new girl

560
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: in town. She's not so new, she just went through

561
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: a makeover. Fiarello. LaGuardia Airport, the school and the airport

562
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: are pumping out hits, planes and talent. LaGuardia is in

563
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: her Terry Hatcher Desperate Housewives era. Absolutely yeah, Guaria is

564
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: Desperate house Era again. It's so hacked. My last two

565
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: out of my last three and thinks to have been

566
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: about airports. But this has been my life recently and

567
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: it's my reality. And take it to court. Okay, take

568
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: it to court. Okay. Before we get into this Jennifer

569
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: Lewis interview, we do want to break some news that

570
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: we said online, but we just want to stay it

571
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: here on the podcast. The the Katies Era is complete.

572
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: That is no longer what you are all called. You

573
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: are the readers again. We celebrate and support everyone who

574
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: really tried to make the Katies Era sing, but we

575
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: have decided to bail on it. And that's okay because

576
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: we never have made any other mistakes doing this podcast,

577
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: so it's okay. This was our first. I wouldn't say

578
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: that was a mistake even No, you're right, and I'm

579
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: sorry to us for saying that. No, sorry to us,

580
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: and I will say kind of in a spicy statement.

581
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: It seemed pretty split, and not even split evenly, but

582
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: there was just a I will say, a vocal minority

583
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: that was like no. And then we announced that Katie's

584
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: was no more. The less vocal majority finally found their voice,

585
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: shall we say, and said wait, I wait, I didn't

586
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: I liked it, but sometimes the vocal minority wins, and

587
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: that is not but let me be clear, let me

588
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: be clear, this is not customer service. Okay, this is

589
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: not customer service. There's a decision that we are making

590
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: because we feel the readers. That's who you are, absolutely

591
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: and this is why you get out there and vote.

592
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: This is why you have to make your voice heard.

593
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: And I'm so serious, I am you have to register

594
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: to vote. Was heard because what was what is coming

595
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: up is the mid terms and from the looks of things,

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00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do well. To

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00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: do well. Enjoyed this conversation with the legend Jennifer Lewis.

598
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: Bye bye. I don't know if you notice, Jennifer Lewis,

599
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: but I'm wearing my robe for you. That's the first

600
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: time I don't have a roller ball. Honestly, I'm not

601
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: used to seeing you not be robed. And sometimes I said,

602
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I see you in the two robes, which is how

603
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: you know she's at work. Did you read the two

604
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: couple of paragraphs on the rope? Oh you know that.

605
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: I had to get up and walk around with a

606
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: book in my hand wearing that because I was like,

607
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: I know, this is boss. I know this is Jennifer.

608
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: Your as up. I'm wearing two robes. I'll leave a alone.

609
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: Trying to contain the charisma, Well, it's it's uncontainable charisma.

610
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm so excited you're here, and I'm so excited about

611
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: the book Walking in My Joy in the Streets probably

612
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: one of the best titles I've heard. How just stumble

613
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: upon the title. It's just kind of who and what

614
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: I am. It's just what I do, mad I mean,

615
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: you see me on said if I'm the only time

616
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm not like laughing and joking and playing around is

617
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: when I'm really in my lines. You know, I show

618
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: up to do my job, but I can't do my

619
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: job if I'm not in my joy. So um, it

620
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: was just so funny that first day I had that

621
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: big speech, and I remember all of you were sitting

622
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: there like little puppies, panting, Oh the great Jennifer Lewis,

623
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: listen to your little ships. I don't know one fucking

624
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: line of this script. They're not getting a great Jennifer

625
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Lewis today. Here's the rule. Shut the funk up. So

626
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: I does it right, And y'all were like, damn all right,

627
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: well ship, but it was just so fun. But for

628
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: the reason I have been able to bring Patricia too,

629
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I love that for you as well as I have.

630
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: And don't think for one minute I don't know that

631
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: my next work it's my best work because I'm able

632
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: to create an environment that is joyful. How can you?

633
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not uh weak link in the cast.

634
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have to walk over to an

635
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Speaker 1: executive producer and sixty five years old, having been in

636
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Speaker 1: this business two hundred and ninety three years, and say,

637
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Speaker 1: what is going on over there? And what do you

638
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: expect me to do with that person who is not

639
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: present and who is not here that have hired. I

640
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: have not had to make that speech everybody. I mean,

641
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't dream of showing up with Jennifer Lewis

642
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: and not bringing my A plus plus game. And you're

643
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: making me better, and you make me so much better

644
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: than I ever thought I could be because of what

645
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: you bring and the stuff that you say to me.

646
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Speaker 1: So I mean, it's just just know that that I'm

647
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: feeling every minute of it. I mean, first of all,

648
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: our relationship in the show, it's so intimate, and you know,

649
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: having had so many assistants and they like Murphy Brown.

650
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: I fire them weekly. Um big, So you don't know

651
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: my middle name? You name, motherfucker, I don't know. You

652
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: were walking into a storm. You know. It's crazy. I

653
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: have been compared to the elements. I don't remember a

654
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: review that I didn't I uh, Tornado her It's New York. Now,

655
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two years old. What was I supposed to

656
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: do with that? You know? But anyway, I love being

657
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: on the set of I love that for you, and

658
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: I love everybody on the set. That is so rare,

659
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: my friend, that is so rare. And with that loving, supporting,

660
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Speaker 1: professional energy, I am able to move in a tight

661
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Speaker 1: g that I've never really felt before. You know, I'm

662
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: from the center and and you and I mhm, let

663
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Speaker 1: me find the word. Well it is it is energy,

664
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Speaker 1: but it's more than it's the consciousness and the energy. Um,

665
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Speaker 1: those being the only two things that really exists. Let's

666
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Speaker 1: just let's just say right now that I am I'm

667
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 1: looking forward to the next season. I know we're gonna

668
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: get picked up. I know it in my heart. I

669
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Speaker 1: know it because I can feel it. I can feel

670
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, I'm trying to see myself somewhere else

671
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: and I can't yet, I know, you know, Okay, so

672
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: we just shared. We just shared a visual moment podcast.

673
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Speaker 1: You know that ship out there. If they don't pick

674
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: us up there out of there, fucking mind. Let agree

675
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, they'd be crazy, they'd be crazy. You know.

676
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: I also feel like what I what I really take

677
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: from like our time together on set, is I remember

678
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: and this is just one of many examples. And I

679
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you a question based on this, which

680
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: is I remember one day it was where we were

681
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Speaker 1: doing the scene where where Patricia gifts Darcy the bag,

682
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: and you were, um, we were walking through the scene

683
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: and you were saying, how u as Jennifer, we're feeling

684
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: emotional about the scene because you know, this was a

685
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: moment of vulnerability for Patricia and it was also a

686
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: moment where she was showing Darcy that he means something

687
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Speaker 1: to her. And as you were preparing the scene, I

688
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: remember you said out loud, but she is not going

689
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: to be emotional like I am about this, because Patricia

690
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: is she's rock solid, she's icy, and she would never

691
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Speaker 1: betray that. And you said to me, you know the

692
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Speaker 1: way you have an effect on the audience is you

693
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Speaker 1: don't cry, they cry, And I've actually I wanted to

694
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Speaker 1: tell you that There's been several times and projects that

695
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I've done since that where I've employed that and I

696
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: felt it really has been effective, where I actually I

697
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: tried so much to not be indulgent in what I

698
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: was doing and rather actually have the much more human

699
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: emotion of trying to manage myself and letting the camera

700
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: are letting whatever it is pick up on that. And

701
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you that that was I

702
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: think one of the most indelible pieces of acting advice

703
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Speaker 1: I've ever had. And I wanted to ask you if

704
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Speaker 1: you could remember a time where you were on set

705
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: or working with another actor and they told you something

706
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: that immediately made sense and you've remembered probably countless times,

707
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: all countless times. Uh. One of the biggest ones was

708
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks when I worked with him passed away and

709
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: I was so nervous that first night, uh of shooting.

710
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Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Hanks, for God's said Robert robertson Mecca's

711
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: is directing, and and here I am. I mean, I'm

712
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: I remember so well because I was studying the Jackie's

713
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: back script in the trailer that night, and Tom Hanks

714
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: came up behind me, and Jesus, what a moment. He

715
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Speaker 1: thought I was rehearsing. He thought I was studying our

716
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: scene that we were about you. I was studying Jackie's Back. Yeah,

717
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Speaker 1: So he looked over my shoulder and saw one of

718
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Speaker 1: the lines from the Jackie's Back script that was eventually

719
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Speaker 1: cut because the scene in Jackie's Back where I'm standing

720
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Speaker 1: at the theater and I've got that mink hat on

721
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: pita is across the street protesting the Mink Act, where

722
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Speaker 1: Jackie Walkington didn't care. Oh, Tom Hanks looks over my

723
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Speaker 1: shoulders and reads the line that Jackie Washington was gonna

724
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Speaker 1: say to the crowd of the protesters for the fur,

725
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Speaker 1: give me back my head, bitch, snatches the hat off,

726
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: and Jackie screen give me back my head, bitch. So

727
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: that was the line at the top of the page

728
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: that Tom Hanks read out loud in my ear in

729
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: makeup and hair, and all I heard. He didn't even say, Hi,

730
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Speaker 1: I'm Tom Hanks. We hadn't even fucking met. He just

731
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: looks at the crip because I'm not paying attention has

732
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: come to the trailer. I know I'm thinking Tom Hanks,

733
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: guess it's makeup on in his own trailer. But there

734
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: he is reading over my shoulder and this is what

735
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Speaker 1: you hear. Let me try to get him, give me,

736
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: give me back my head, bitch, like, what the fuck?

737
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: It's Tom Hags. But the thing Tom, when we got

738
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: on the set, I was I was really nervous, and

739
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: he looked at after one take of the scene, he

740
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: looked at me and he looked me dead in my

741
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: eye and he said, don't say it if you don't

742
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: mean it, just like just like that, Oh my god,

743
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: don't say it if you don't mean it. Don't say

744
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: it if you don't mean it. H It was so

745
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: powerful because he didn't he didn't um patronized me. He

746
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: didn't make me feel bad, he didn't, you know, he

747
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: didn't put me down. He didn't do any of that.

748
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: He just gave me that one sentenced Because I went

749
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: over to him, I said, I'm a little nervous, you know,

750
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: and he said, well, just don't say it if you

751
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: don't mean it. It was just so simple and and

752
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: so everything. I'll tell you some of the lines. Sharon Stone. Also,

753
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: when I worked with her on the mighty yeah. She

754
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: gave so much off camera I couldn't believe. I mean,

755
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: it was Sharon Stone, and she gave me the tears

756
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: off camera. You mean when you were doing your coverage

757
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: and coverage had been my yes right during her coverage.

758
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: Her coverage was first. So she she did her performance,

759
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: and I, you know, would remember what she did and

760
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: I would give mine, but she gave it all and

761
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I have always admired and respected her for that. She

762
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: also was very sweet. She came to see one of

763
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: my club acts one time. They're They're set, Sharon Stone

764
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: and Gregory Hines, and be was in the audience that night.

765
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: What I mean, you know, come on, um, I know,

766
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: I've always been the entertainer's entertainer. People they come to

767
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: study me, they come to watch because I mean, you know, look,

768
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: I perfected the cabaret scene, started the house down right,

769
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: you know. The kids and dream girls used to come

770
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: see me after the show. I was the show. After

771
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: the Broadway shows, people would the gypsy broad Broadways gypsies

772
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: would pile into Don't Tell Mama for my monthly show,

773
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: and I just did him. I just kept doing and

774
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: kept doing. And that's where the real groundwork came in.

775
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: That's why I wasn't too intimidated by Molly Shannon and

776
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: Vanessa bel I love that for you because I've done

777
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: my homework too. It was like I was on Saturday

778
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: Night Live. Yeah right, and it's it's true. It's true

779
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: that you auditioned for Saturday Night Live too, right, Yes

780
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: I did. I sure did. I had a call back

781
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: with Lauren Michaels. I can't remember what year it was,

782
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: but I was very young. I was in my early

783
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: twenties and I just knew I was gonna get picked.

784
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: It was one of the biggest heartbreaks of my career. Yeah,

785
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: I went through something similar. Isn't it funny? Like now

786
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: we get to work with people that have been also

787
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 1: on the show, and we both also got closer. Though.

788
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: It always comes around. And let me say, to all

789
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: the hits listening, you must I always say I gave

790
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: up many times in my career. I did, but I

791
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: never quit. I didn't quit. It's when your hardest hit

792
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: that you mustn't quit. Got to be in it to

793
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: win it. There's no room for you to sit down.

794
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: I tell motherfucker's I'm so dramatic. I lived my life

795
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: like I got five minutes left. You go, what you're

796
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: gonna do with the next five minutes, Jenny, Okay, you

797
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: say that's dramatic. Oh that's so much you damn straight. See,

798
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm six five, I got thirty summers left. I ain't

799
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: got time to weight. If the fucking nine point two

800
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: hit right now, I would have gone down talking to

801
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: my baby. I don't waste time. I would have gone

802
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: down telling the truth. I try not to even get

803
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: stressed Anymoreglo, bitch, Why when you've been in an earthquake

804
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: and the tornado and the food, you know, you don't

805
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: funk around with nature, the preciousness of life, how precious

806
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: it is, how fragile we are, we are so gradual,

807
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: and it could all be gone in a second. And

808
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: that's why you've got to honor it. You got to

809
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: honor it. Yeah, as you're talking, I'm reminded of the

810
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: chapter in your book about your cousin Ronnie, which moved

811
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: me so much. I mean, this was such a beautiful testament,

812
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: and it's such a beautiful, you know, ode to his

813
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: spirit and to how meaningful he was to you. And

814
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: I do, like, I I know that like it emanates

815
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: off of you, but you are. It's it's almost like

816
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: beyond ally ship. It's like you are an icon to

817
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community. But also it's like it feels like

818
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: inherent in you. Like obviously you have a very close

819
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: connection because there's a person in your life that was

820
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: gay that you knew from a very very very young age,

821
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: but also like can you speak to being involved in

822
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: that cabaret scene and also being being around so many

823
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: people like Vibrant your people in the eighties, because but

824
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: it's beyond performance. It feels like it's like a lifeblood.

825
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, daring. The performance. The performance on stage was

826
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, probably scripted, and they okay, right, Jennifer Lewis

827
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: will go off the script in five seconds and create

828
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: a whole other world. But when the show came down,

829
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: you see, m Artists are different walk. We walk in

830
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: a different light of life because we know we're responsible.

831
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: We know we're responsible for the next trend, the next energy.

832
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: You know. It's like it's like it's like a tone setting.

833
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: It's a responsibility. You can't fuck with it. You've got

834
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: on an artistry because we are We go before everyone

835
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: and laid the ground here's some art to look at

836
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: while you're climbing your mountain. Here's a song you can

837
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: sing while you're climbing in your mountain, because that's all

838
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: any of us are trying to do, is climb the mountain.

839
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: So the artists are there to say, here's something to

840
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: encourage you. Here's a song you can sing when you

841
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: get to level five. Here's a pair of beautiful shoes

842
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: that will make your feet so good. Whatever you need,

843
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Speaker 1: we're gonna make you a shoe that's gonna cushion your

844
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Speaker 1: foot to get to the next level. What do you need?

845
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: Because we were put here to create it for you,

846
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: to help you, not to change you, not to make you,

847
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: but just help you, feed you as it were feed you.

848
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Here's a song, bitch. You know you ain't even got

849
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: to know how to sing to sing it, to sing.

850
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: Thank you. The fact that you heard it means it's

851
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: in your soul all the bay there. Do what you

852
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: will with it. But here's the song, bitch. Here's a song. M.

853
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: I have a song I've loved since I was a kid.

854
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: It said, God give me mountains m with fills at

855
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: their knees. You know, I used to think Matt that

856
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I that I had to pull everybody up. Happy I

857
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: stayed alive. I'm happy I stayed around to grow to

858
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: respect other people and hear what they had to say.

859
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: A k A. Listen to others. Instead of it being me,

860
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: me me, it's now we we we. So I found

861
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: people that I could reach up and trust not to

862
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: let me fall back down. That count and that goes

863
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: back to I love that to you for you. That

864
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: goes back to Vanessa's warm That goes back to Molly's

865
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: wholeness and your intensity and your I watch you know,

866
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: I've been able to watch the show and study it.

867
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: You also have a warmth and not to your looks.

868
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: Don't hurt either, baby boy, just coming from the most

869
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: beautiful woman in the world. That means something. You're so

870
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: precious to Just look at those little things you do,

871
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: even when you slam the the cart that Patricia has

872
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: made you put all over that board, the way you're

873
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: going like this bit, this bitch is in your back. No, honey,

874
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: I have studied all I have this bitch. I love her.

875
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: God damn it, I have to put the same ship

876
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: all over here. Because I heard Patricia say, put them

877
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: all up there so everyone will understand that will be

878
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: no mistakes. And you're like, and I could hear Darcy thinking,

879
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: fuck in your back. It's there, suck. It's such an

880
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: interesting relationship and dynamic to play because there's so many

881
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: layers to it, you know what I mean. It's like

882
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: there is that because because there is that, um, I

883
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: find that with him it's like an irritant that he

884
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: has to be obedient to someone, but he also he

885
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: also does need it and he wants to be And

886
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: when you have been with Banaza, when you're getting who's

887
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: taking the care of her, Matt, everything is in that scene.

888
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: Everything that is unspoken. I hear in that scene. But

889
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: I have a fucking word you say. I hear everything

890
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: you're not saying. And that's when you know it's right.

891
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: This means the world to me. No, no, no, you

892
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: literally say I'm nothing. When you say nothing, when you

893
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: say I'm nothing, I'm just a little spec All I

894
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: hear here is all I'm hearing it. You don't I understand.

895
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: I just thought that they the towns and when you

896
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: when you do your hands and you go down like,

897
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: oh my god. No, I'm gonna say my favorite part

898
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: m this is how I know like the second season,

899
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: but I love this for you. It's gonna be so interesting.

900
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait because what I have found while looking

901
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: at it and studying it. You and I are music,

902
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: a young man, we're music together. That's some music ship

903
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: going on. We're writing the song in this bitch, and

904
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: I am loving every note. You know. I don't funk around,

905
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: young man. I don't blow smoke. I watch. You're too

906
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: close to me for me not to I gotta be

907
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: able to see straight through you, motherfucker. Get that close

908
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: to me. I see everything. Okay, they can actually be

909
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: a thousand paces the way I still see, but that

910
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: up close. No, when you let me tell you the

911
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: song you I don't even know if you know it.

912
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: But while I'm singing and I'm feeling good, and before

913
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:23,479
Speaker 1: you push that fucking button, when you go that was it, boy,

914
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: this little boy know a thing that two It was

915
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: the song. It was a song within a song within

916
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: a song, and it was beautiful. I'm I'm I'm overwhelmed,

917
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: and it's such a It's one of the great joys

918
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: of my life to be able to to have this experience.

919
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: And I'm so excited for the future of like the

920
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: song as you're saying, and I will say, I was

921
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: so proud and so excited to be able to be

922
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: there when you got your star on the Hollywood Walk

923
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: and that was so exciting to watch you at that moment.

924
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: That like such a deserved moment. And I have to

925
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: tell you, I didn't get to talk to you much

926
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: that day because there was so much happening. But I

927
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: was shaking because I go over and I look at

928
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: my chair and of course I'm like glowing, and I'm

929
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: with Vanessa and we're so excited and proud of you.

930
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: And then I go over. I look, I they have

931
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: a chair for me, It says Matt Rodgers on my chair,

932
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: and the next chair over said two words, Brandy, Nor

933
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: would Jennifer I have I When I tell you, she

934
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: came and sat next to me, and I'm I'm like

935
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: shaking because I have been a huge Brandy fan from

936
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: a child, and she was and she was amongst dozens

937
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: and dozens and dozens of people that were there, just

938
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: so excited, glowing for you. What did that day feel like?

939
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: Because it's not just any people. These are the most

940
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: talented people. These are the most brilliant lights. I mean,

941
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: meeting all your sisters was incredible, Like, I mean, just

942
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: like what did that feel like? And the caliber of

943
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: people that were there to pay tribute to? I mean,

944
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: Mark Shaman and Debbie Allen did the speeches. Let's go wow,

945
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: baby boy, oh man, mhm to make Jennifer Lewis speeches

946
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: because she's sitting in a moment that is real. It's

947
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: so real. Mm hmm. Come on, you already know. I

948
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: don't have to say it was. Let me try. Yeah.

949
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: Mark Shaman and I have known each other for about

950
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: thirty five years, and you know he wrote Hairsprayed for me.

951
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: He wrote mortemall Mouth for me, but I couldn't do

952
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: it because I was on the contract with Strong Medicine. Wow. Wow,

953
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: So I did get to go. I did get to

954
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: go back to Broadway into it for three months, um,

955
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: which was wonderful. Oh god, what a life. And Debbie

956
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: Allen made my first job in Hollywood. Wow. It was

957
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: a pilot with Diane Carol cab Callaway Journey, Journey, Gary Journey.

958
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Smollett was four years old playing Debbie Allen and and

959
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: I was playing uh uh, Debbie Allen's cousin, Jesse May

960
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: gave me my first solo and and the great moment

961
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: between Debbie and I was when we did a presentation

962
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: of the pilot. It was called Sunday in Paris, when

963
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: we did a presentation of the pilot for the producers,

964
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: the producers which she was one, She was an executive producer,

965
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: so they were in a meeting. So when they came

966
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: out of that meeting, Debbie Allen slipped me a note

967
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: and she whispered in my ear they walked more of

968
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: Jesse May. Yeah, of course, come on, now they want more.

969
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: That's the next book. They want more. They that they

970
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: want more of Jesse Met, she said, and then she

971
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: went it in my issue. She said, now you listen

972
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: to me and listen good. Yeah. I'm only gonna do

973
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons of this show and then you

974
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: can have it. But not yet, bitch, baby. She wrote

975
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: a note that said not yet, bitch, that I still have.

976
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: I still have that note. Not yet, bitch. You can

977
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: be you can take over, because she knew I was

978
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: capable of taking it over. I mean, back in those days,

979
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 1: I wasn't even treated for my bipolar disorder. So honey,

980
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: I was completely out of control. I pushed every motherfucker

981
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: aside to beat to the center. And that was just

982
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: no justice, that was nothing. I was a fource of

983
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: nature job. Debbie Allen was like, goddamn, this girl got talent.

984
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: So ce she saw it, and she you know, all

985
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: of my peers, I mean from Whoopee to Rosie to

986
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin and all the people that were in Jackie's back,

987
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, they've been there for me. Bett Mittler, all

988
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: of they've been there for me. I was the little

989
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: the little kid knew on the block, and everybody wanted

990
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: to make me a star. But the bipolar dis order

991
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: um really stopped that whole. It was a wave coming,

992
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: but it was a wave of confusion. I was not aligned.

993
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: I was willing, but I wasn't ready. I wasn't ever

994
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: ready emotionally, spiritually, uh. And I just didn't know what

995
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: to do with myself. Everybody was dying from a eats

996
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: and I just I pretty much just lost my fucking mind.

997
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: And then someone right, and and and you know you're

998
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: not supposed to deal with that much death in your

999
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: early thirties, for God's sake, They babies dropped like flies

1000
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: nobody knew what to do. Ronald Reagan wasn't doing ship,

1001
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: wasn't saying ship. The government wasn't saying ship. And we

1002
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: all we were all lost, but I more than most

1003
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: because I was styke. I was not diagnosed yet. So um,

1004
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm what can I tell you? Going back to the

1005
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: lg g uh B t Q community, you know, like

1006
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: the whole chorus like died from dream curls. I mean,

1007
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: it was it was the time that you guys could

1008
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: not even imagine, and it was a silent war kind

1009
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 1: of like this dumb coat ship. You didn't we thought

1010
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: it was in the air. There was a time we

1011
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was in the air. Yeah, it

1012
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: had to be incredibly scary. I mean sometimes I just

1013
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: I very rarely have these moments because whether it's ignorance

1014
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's just like I I am, you know,

1015
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: blessed him to be living in this time and not

1016
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: that one. I look around whenever I'm a lot around

1017
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: all my gay queer friends and I think, like we're

1018
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: very lucky that. I mean, this isn't a present a

1019
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: present like immediate threat because just the fear and terror

1020
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: just and to understand how vital the community is and

1021
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: how enriching it is, and how I'm proud I am

1022
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. Just yeah, just life, honey.

1023
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: I live in my joy around the gay children love me.

1024
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: I love them and that's that's the way that is.

1025
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna fight for them and they've always fought

1026
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: for me. And before you even a little a sahebo, yeah,

1027
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: I was like, what do we rock in here? We

1028
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: got some? I love that. Let's finish my plate. So

1029
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: I got to eat a little something. You know, I

1030
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: still take it. By the way you're going, you're emanating

1031
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: right now. You seem like you're walking in your joy.

1032
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: Then let me tell you what happened yesterday and you

1033
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: will know why I'm walking to the enjoy. I want

1034
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: to know. The musical director of my new UH animating

1035
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: animation feature Spellbound with Nicole, Javier bar Damn and John

1036
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: is playing my husband. I'm one of my husbands. My

1037
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: e's the other, like minister of the little kingdom. But anyway,

1038
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: they came over yesterday, honey, with all the dis knee

1039
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: inness of it all. Yeah, the storyboards, well no, no,

1040
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: you know Disney does not let out the script. Oh

1041
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: they don't. Okay, we only when I've done about Oh,

1042
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: I guess this would be my O. I think this

1043
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: will be my seventh animation feature. Wo but baby, your

1044
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: little girl was singing and Alan making song. Yes, unbelievable.

1045
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: This is gonna be incredible, and I sounded so good

1046
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: on it. I couldn't believe I hit those notes yesterday.

1047
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: I I can't believe it. I mean everyone, I mean

1048
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what else I looked? But

1049
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: I love that for you is they gave you that moment,

1050
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: and I think it was the fifth episode to sing

1051
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: feeling good. When you just mentioned it, just like the

1052
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: way you ripped that up, I was like, come on now,

1053
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: the moment was absolutely met crushed it. Well, you know,

1054
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. The greatest compliment I

1055
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: got was from Mark Shaman. And Mark and I don't

1056
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: compliment each other because we both know if one of

1057
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: us gets if one of us gets one more compliment,

1058
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: our heads will fall off. I'll show this right, So

1059
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: we usually we were just pretty much putting each other

1060
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: down when we talked. You, no funk, do you know

1061
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: you when Mark Shaman, you have such incredible enriching friendships.

1062
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: Look at you, I mean you're overwhelmed. But yeah, because

1063
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: there's so much love there, it's so much history. Yes,

1064
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: when Mark Shaman calls and tells you that he has

1065
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: never seen a more perfect lips stink, I love it.

1066
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean he said it was perfect. How did you?

1067
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean when Mark, you know, confused at some of

1068
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: my brilliance, I mean that. Yeah, I'll tell you another

1069
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: thing Mark Shaman did. We We went on a world

1070
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: tool once and we were in Iceland together. Mhm yeah,

1071
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,959
Speaker 1: but we were in a three hundred fifty year old

1072
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: uh glacier. They had card uh wedding chapel of ice

1073
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: inside of this glacier. You call and tell him to

1074
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: go there. It's pretty cool. Well, yeah, they'll drive him out.

1075
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 1: Tell him if it's a bit of a drive in

1076
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: Iceland to get out to that glacier, but tell him

1077
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: to go. It's worth it. They have to give you

1078
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: a suit, you don't freeze the death and their knowledge

1079
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot of experience. Absolutely, But I got a Mark Shaman. Now,

1080
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: I we're walking around in this glacier in Iceland, and

1081
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: the guide that was taken us through all this precarious

1082
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: ice and snow she turns. At one point, she says, yes,

1083
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: now we've entered the temple. The chapel is, does anyone sing? Oh? Man,

1084
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: the acoustics probably were giving everything. Yes. Actually, if you

1085
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: really want to know, truth is actually on you too.

1086
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: You can actually see. But here's the piece. Okay, when

1087
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: I finished singing amazing grace in that glacier mm hmm.

1088
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: You can hear Mark Shaman say these words, and I

1089
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: got a church from guy watching all the time. But

1090
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: he says, uh, there, how's the amazing grace in speak

1091
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: to No? No, no, yeah, but yes, but no, I

1092
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: see and he either says I think he said perfect

1093
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: or or it was brilliant. I mean it was somewhere

1094
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: and it was one word and I'm all spring. He

1095
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: doesn't see this here, this interview because it will give

1096
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: it too much power. But when he comproments me, when

1097
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: Mark Shaman get me a compliment, it fucking goes in. Man.

1098
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like it was involuntary, you know what I mean.

1099
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: It sounds like he had an experience came so quickly,

1100
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: came so from the soul, which everything does. That's son

1101
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: of a bitch, feels everything I'm telling you. Mark shaman

1102
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: rocks around, and there is there is music constantly in

1103
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: his entire moleculous structure. You can barely get through. You

1104
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: can barely get through. He'll put his finger up to

1105
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: his ear because I'm screaming so loud, trying to get

1106
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: through whatever symphony that motherfucker's writing. I'm we're eating now.

1107
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: Some chicken bit killed me. But you know the corn

1108
01:10:50,720 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: by riding a symphony. Damn, some people never stopped. I

1109
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: have to ask you, Um, we have a question that

1110
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: we ask everyone that comes on this podcast, and it

1111
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: causes a little bit of a deep dive, So we

1112
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: ask everyone, what was the culture that made you? Say?

1113
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: Culture was for me? So basically this is a stupid way,

1114
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: an ignorant way of asking the question, what was the

1115
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: formative pop culture? Whether it was a film, you know, um,

1116
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: musical artists, something that made you Jennifer Lewis realized you

1117
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: or Jennifer Lewis, what was that formative culture? I actually

1118
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: spoke to my new assistant, Cecily, who knows you love

1119
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: Cecily already, and she was telling me about this this

1120
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: culture thing. I was like, what then is talking about?

1121
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: What the something that she said something that you know,

1122
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: And I said something like, well, georga'ss jeans, you know

1123
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: I was walking around. She's telling that's a good one.

1124
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: But as you asked me this question, I'm gonna tell

1125
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: you another. Oh yeah, I used to walk down the

1126
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: street New York on you got to look, you got

1127
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: to look. Yes, And those James were so cheap and nasty.

1128
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: She used to always hurt you between my legs. I

1129
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:29,919
Speaker 1: took those motherfuckers off and never wore them again. Y goddamn.

1130
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: And I'm walking in the pumps on the asphalt of

1131
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: a fathe going. You got the look, you got the look.

1132
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: And I changed the song to my feet are hurting,

1133
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: my ass is hurting, and so up. I got ups.

1134
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: They were not practical. They can't be the culture that

1135
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: they were not practically. If as you asked me this question, yes,

1136
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: something else went through me. I wanted I've heard. What

1137
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: was it that that shook you in your in your

1138
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: in your past. Let me tell you a couple of things,

1139
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: whether I'm answering your question or not. Let me say

1140
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: this out loud, just because it's so present. Good. It

1141
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: was streisan Ah, it was Judy Garland, Sinatra Harl Bailey.

1142
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: It was those gods, yeah, that snatched my soul out

1143
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: of my goddamn rib gauge and said, this is who

1144
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: you are. Mrs Lewis, was it the storytelling of what

1145
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: they were able to do? What was it do you

1146
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: think that made you connect to these like vocal storytellers? Like?

1147
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: What was it about them? Because that is the that

1148
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: is the the connecting tissue that I find in those

1149
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: names that you say. It's the it fact. To my

1150
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: it is a chrisma that cannot be bought. It can

1151
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: only be polished. You have to be born with it.

1152
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: It is game nose game. You have it, man, darling,

1153
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: you have you No darling, I don't blow smoke baby.

1154
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: You have the fact that you wouldn't be able to

1155
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: stand next to me if you come on. Yeah you

1156
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: wanna quit? You would? I can't that, but that bitch

1157
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: I ain't done it. Chuniber lords. I can't, But you didn't.

1158
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: You're stepped up? Or should I say you stepped in?

1159
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: You know who you are. You're young, but you know

1160
01:14:54,479 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: who you are. We're all unfinished projects. We're all climbing

1161
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: that mountain. We're all reaching back to somebody we love

1162
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: We're all reaching up to somebody we respect. Mm hmm.

1163
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: It is a chain of love and some of us.

1164
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we were given just a little more. I'm

1165
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: sorry we just were I don't know how it works.

1166
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what God is thinking, or who did

1167
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: what or who did I don't know, but I know

1168
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: I came in this bitch singing, and I'm gonna go

1169
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: out of this bitch sings. Yeah. Oh. You know, my mother,

1170
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: when I was very very young, she like raised me

1171
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: on the movie Funny Girl. So I think I may

1172
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: have been like four or five the first time I

1173
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: really watched Barbara deliver those numbers. Specifically, the moment, the

1174
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: moment that I can really remember is seeing her sing

1175
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: my and at the end of Funny Girl, and just

1176
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: the way that she belts out the world for the

1177
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: word forever more at the end of that song, and

1178
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: it closes the film and she she in silhouette. The

1179
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: lights go down in black and she's in silhouette and

1180
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: she's just bathed in the glory of what she's just done.

1181
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: But what it was, it was all of the emotion

1182
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: of that entire two hour, forty minute film put into

1183
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: one No it was just like and so when you

1184
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 1: say her name, I'm like, wow, that really is what

1185
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: it is. It's just an immediacy and an ability to channel.

1186
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: And that was the moment for me too. But my

1187
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: moment was right on my parade. Yeah, when that bitch

1188
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: went don't and then another don't tell me, and then

1189
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: when she got on that motherfucking boat and hit that

1190
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: motherfuck So that lasted eight hours. I was I was babysitting.

1191
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: You never forget moments like I was babysitting. And when

1192
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: she hit that note, yeah, and also holding the center

1193
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: of that shot when she when she did that, I

1194
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: knew you that I would hit that fucking note and

1195
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: hold it that fucking yeah, I have in my youth.

1196
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure have you sang that song? Are you kidding?

1197
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't don't, don't, don't don't And they didn't

1198
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: know the word was bop, but the word was bop.

1199
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: All you are. All I have to hear is don't don't,

1200
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: don't don't. I mean it's and it was also I

1201
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: don't know, there was that just been moments. You know,

1202
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: when you when you hear the voice of Nelson Mandela,

1203
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: when you're when you're privy to looking Michelle Obama in

1204
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: her eyes and seeing her grace through her eyes. This

1205
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: was an amazing part of the book. Yeah, everyone has

1206
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: to get this book. Yeah, I'm talking moments of life. Yes,

1207
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking about human greatness. And boy is greatness?

1208
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: Is Mr lewis greatness? And by the way, take this in.

1209
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: There are no shortcuts to it. See when you see

1210
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: when you put a word great on a human being,

1211
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: they did some ship because they got there telling the truth.

1212
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: That's some real ship. You can't lie your way to

1213
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: great this motherfucker. You gotta stand in your truth, the

1214
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: whole truth, and nothing but the truth. That's why the

1215
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: con artists in the book got eight years because when

1216
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: I read, when I read my victim statement, I brought

1217
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

1218
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: Didn't need God to help me because it was the

1219
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: whole truth. Do you understand? Yes, I've been given the

1220
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: strength to say no to injustice that should happened to me.

1221
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: I said to myself, if I am in this much

1222
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: pain from being conned and scammed, what other people must

1223
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: be going through. See, I have the tools to work

1224
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: through any fucking thing that comes near me, I'm like,

1225
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: morphous and fucking matrix, bring it bit where you had

1226
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: come on what you got, because we got. All we

1227
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: can do is sit at the table and work through it.

1228
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 1: But when you get to a situation where you can't

1229
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: work through it, I'm telling everybody in the world, let

1230
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: that ship go. That's the moment where you have to say, okay,

1231
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: time to grow up and move the funk on. No

1232
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: matter how painful it is. You may change nobody. You

1233
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: can't make somebody do something that you want them to

1234
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: do how you want them to do it. Mm hmm.

1235
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: That's not that that doesn't belong to you. What belongs

1236
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: to you It is how you feel about what did

1237
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: you do with it? Who did help and who did

1238
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: you defend? And did you take your responsibility? Because there's

1239
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: always a two great fucking street. I don't even know

1240
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: how I got off on that, but it sounds no.

1241
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: But I want I want everyone to know, for everyone listening,

1242
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: that you must read this book because this was This

1243
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: was another thing I didn't know actually, is that you

1244
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: found yourself in a relationship with someone that became romantic

1245
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: and the person was a full scam artist. Who is

1246
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: I guess now in prison because he was conning women

1247
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: into being in romantic relationships with him and taking all

1248
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: their money to fund fraudulent businesses. And this was something

1249
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: that I was really shook by because you're so kind

1250
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: and so strong. I was like, God, this guy must

1251
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: have been a real sicko. And these people are really

1252
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: good at what they do, aren't they. You have to

1253
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: watch out for some of these people. And I just

1254
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: wanted to ask, like, when do you decide so when

1255
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: you talk about acting on something like that, because you

1256
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: knew you were going to do something about it, because

1257
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: pretty immediately you did go to the police, and um,

1258
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: it developed from there in terms of getting this guy,

1259
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, serving serving justice or what happened? When does it?

1260
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: When does it stop becoming I'm in pain and hurting

1261
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: about this? And when how soon does it do you

1262
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: make the decision to act? Was it immediate or and

1263
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: how much grieving process went into the end of that relationship?

1264
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: My what to do? Was it immediate? Because I'm an

1265
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 1: out I don't sit around and well before treatment, before

1266
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: treating my bipolar disorder, when chaos madness would occur, I

1267
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: would become part of the madness and the chaos all out,

1268
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: don't know what to do, go crazy, you know, start crying,

1269
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: can't stop crying. Things are wrong now, not anymore, darling,

1270
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: not after this many years of therapy. Whenever it happens,

1271
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: because that phone one thing, you know, if the phone

1272
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: is gonna ring, no matter, you can be skipped, towing

1273
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: through the tulips or whatever the funk you want to

1274
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: do with your life. But that phone is gonna ring,

1275
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna be dead at some point. M somebody's

1276
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a heart attack. Somebody did this,

1277
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: somebody it's coming. You know. That was a movie, The

1278
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: Untouchables with Kevin Costner and Sean Connery, and Sean Connery

1279
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: has been shocked and he's bleeding to death, and Kevin

1280
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: Costner has come to him and asked for his assistance. Well,

1281
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: now having given him his assistant assistance, he's been shot

1282
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: and he's dying and he looks up at Kevin Coston

1283
01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: as he's bleeding to death, and he asked him, what

1284
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: are you prepared to do? M hmm. You're gonna go

1285
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: to the train station and kill this motherfucker, or you

1286
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: just gonna let me lay on this floor and bleed

1287
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: and you do nothing about it. I say a lie

1288
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: long enough to tell you where this motherfucker is that

1289
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: killed me? Now, what are you prepared to do? So

1290
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 1: that's why I asked myself every fucking day, because something's

1291
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: coming every day. What are you prepared to do? Jenny?

1292
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: Did your journal? Did your journal about it last night?

1293
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: Did you right down last night? Get in the pool?

1294
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: See it's just step by step. Yeah, there's no frivolity

1295
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 1: involved in living on on purpose. See the count artists

1296
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: got in because I wasn't paying attention. Oh I was

1297
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 1: getting my honorary doctorate degree, getting a lifetime Achievement award,

1298
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: and he was just over there and I was like, okay, Babby,

1299
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: I'll be back. Yeah, I'm I'll invest in that. Yeah sure,

1300
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: and then I'm off on the plane. Well guess what

1301
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: that is, Matt. That's called arrogance, it's called omnipotence, it's

1302
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: delusions of grandeura, and it's grandiosity. Well. Ms Lewis, maybe

1303
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: next time you'll pay attention, Mrs Lewis, maybe there's a

1304
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: new lesson to learn. How about you pay attention. You're

1305
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: paying attention, Jenny, or you just flailing your arm, like,

1306
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: let somebody else take care of it, right this man

1307
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: in your house, in your life, in your home, in

1308
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 1: my bed, in between my legs, and thank you, I lie,

1309
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: excuse me god, you send me a fucking con artist. Yeah,

1310
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: let me tell you how immediate it was. Yeah, it

1311
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: was immediate. I went to the police immediately, I called TMZ.

1312
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: I wanted that motherfucker's face all over the world so

1313
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: he wouldn't hurt other women. Let me tell you something

1314
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: my therapist told me when that happened. And let me

1315
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: be very honest, it is one of the worst things

1316
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: that have happened to me. But in hindsight, once we

1317
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: say oh it's the worst thing that happened to me,

1318
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: it was the best thing. I would not have been

1319
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: able to write either of these books had that motherfucker

1320
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: not come into my life. I would not have been

1321
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: able to write The Mother Black Hollywood, because, you see,

1322
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: the con artist's story was the worst thing that ever

1323
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: happened to me. So if you give the worst story away,

1324
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: here you go. Here's the molestation, here's the pregnancies, here's

1325
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: the abortions, here's the sex addiction, here's the mental health.

1326
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: You gave it away, because why do I always say

1327
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: we are as sick as our secret. That's right, I

1328
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: did it, motherfucker. Bring it on, Bring it on. You

1329
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: can't come for me, come for me. Yeah, I did it,

1330
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: but I gave it back to health and that made

1331
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 1: me happy. Yeah, was I embarrassed yours? It has to

1332
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: be very vulnerable, stupid. Yeah, I've lived the spectrum. I've

1333
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: gone from Florida, reach Port, the rich. I've lived the spectrum. Bitch,

1334
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm from the street. Who gonna check me? Boom? Well,

1335
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: bit I can't. You got checked. You got con out

1336
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: of fifty grand. Now go and mourn if you will,

1337
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: and then get the funk up and keep going and

1338
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: keep going the truth, Jenny. Yeah it hurt, Yeah, it hurts.

1339
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: It hurts like hell. But how about you tug on

1340
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: so journalous truth skirt right now and get up. Yeah.

1341
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: It's also important for strong people to show vulnerability and

1342
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: to and to also express the ways in which they

1343
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: have been knocked down, because I think that is something

1344
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: I think also to with the entertainment industry is when

1345
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 1: we step on stage, like obviously, you exude a strength

1346
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: and you exude almost like an invincibility, especially when we

1347
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: when when we're these types of performers like you are

1348
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: and the ones that you've mentioned. But also the vulnerability

1349
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: is why we fall in love with them. It's why

1350
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: we remember my man, you know what I mean. Duty

1351
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: Remember Judy Garland, Judy Garland on the Judy Garland Show.

1352
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: I think it was two nights after John F. Kennedy

1353
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: had been shot. I was in the second grade and

1354
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: Judy Garland came out MHM in her show. And of

1355
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: course I learned later that the executive producers did not

1356
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: want her to do that because it was political, but yeah,

1357
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: Judy was friends with JFK and um. Anyway, she came

1358
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: out and she sang battle him in Republic and they

1359
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: go to YouTube and see that bitch. You will see

1360
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: she forgot a lyric and you you she didn't flu up.

1361
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: She went instead of saying, oh be swis my soul

1362
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: to answer him, be jubilant my feet. Well God is

1363
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 1: watching on and baby. When she took that first step

1364
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: on loori Lori halleluyah. As I was in the second grade,

1365
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: math m, tears were running down my face. I didn't

1366
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: even know what emotion I was feeling. But this woman,

1367
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: this energy, this power, this this unannounced storm that came

1368
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I'm telling you, baby, I have enjoyed

1369
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: being in this business, Matt. I have enjoyed. I am.

1370
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I think if somebody were to ask me what I

1371
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: was more grateful for than anything, it would be that

1372
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I got to do what I loved to do in

1373
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: my life. I probably would have done it had I

1374
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: never got a penny, for gotten a penniful it m hmm.

1375
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: I didn't know what else to do but sing a song.

1376
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know what else to do but kick my

1377
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: legs in the air. I didn't know what else to

1378
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: do but make people laugh. I always thought it was

1379
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: why I was put here, and I'm glad I thought

1380
01:29:48,280 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: that because it kind of worked out. Yes, here's a thing. Ordinarily,

1381
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: on something as gorgeous and beautiful as that, I would

1382
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: end the episode. But we have to do a segment

1383
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: that we always do on this podcast that I hope

1384
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 1: Cecily told you about. It's called I don't think so, honey,

1385
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: did you hear about I don't think so, honey? Did

1386
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: she tell you? You're telling me back? I don't think

1387
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: this is what it is it's a sixty second rant

1388
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: about something that is grinding your gears that you need

1389
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: to rant about and scream about. I have one. I'll

1390
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: do a demo for you, and then I'm gonna time

1391
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: you Jennifer Lewis, okay, are you ready? So I'm I'm

1392
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna do one, and then you're gonna do one. All right?

1393
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: So this is my I don't think so, honey, My

1394
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The word

1395
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 1: affidavit's the releasing or whatever. Just put this motherfucker in jail.

1396
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: Is he a criminal, then lock him up. I don't

1397
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: give a funk about. He was the president and this

1398
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: is unprecedented. I don't want to hear the word affidavit

1399
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 1: ever again. Release the whatever. Mama released the cracking, released

1400
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: the cracking of the U. S. Government, and put this

1401
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: man in fucking prison. What does he have that he

1402
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: should have? Just tell us, you know, we deserve to

1403
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: know the fucking truth. Put him in fucking jail. I

1404
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: have thirty seconds left. Look, if I have to see

1405
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: one more drone shot of Mara Lago, Mama, put the

1406
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: drone into the hallway, going uncover the cabinets, Just show

1407
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: us what is in there? If I see one more

1408
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: document with a billion lines blacked out, just tell us

1409
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: the truth. How has this motherfucker's been putting us in jail?

1410
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and in in chaos and in danger. Put

1411
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: him in jail, not us, Mama? Is it? I don't

1412
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: care if it's UFOs, I don't care if it's fucking whatever.

1413
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 1: Just just tell us what it is. Stop. I don't

1414
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: think so, honey, boom, that's my one minute. Well, I'm

1415
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna pick it right the fun up. This is Jennifer Lillis.

1416
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Your time starts now. I

1417
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: don't think so, bitch. I don't think that your motherfucking

1418
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: as should still be alive when you didn't tell us

1419
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: that COVID what it's here, when it wasn't here, your

1420
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: motherfucker saying ship on the phone, like oh it's in

1421
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: the air, Yeah, that's in the a bitch, everything after

1422
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: the motherfucking air too, Because you don't believe in science.

1423
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: With your dumb, fat, little mushroom dick ass, you don't

1424
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: believe inside you got him. You're a social path. You're

1425
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: a fucking social path, and and you're insane, but you know.

1426
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. Let you lafe. I don't hate

1427
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: that man. I feel sorry for Trump because I know

1428
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: what fucking mental illness looks like. But there's a difference

1429
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: between mental illness and being a fucking sociopath. That bitch

1430
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: has no feeling. And I'm gonna tell you why they're

1431
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 1: having arrest of this fucking as yet because when he

1432
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: got in he's mafia. He went out there and got

1433
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: a picture of every Republican senator's mistress and a young

1434
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 1: boy that they fucking around with. Fuck him, he's got

1435
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: do it again. Let me get the good turn that finish, finish.

1436
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Here's what I want to say. Trump is mob. You

1437
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 1: gotta understand that ship, that motherfuck monster. When he got

1438
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: in office, he went and got pictures of every Republican's mistress,

1439
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: whoever got the seeds they were straight or gay or

1440
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: whatever whatever you could hold over their heads. As soon

1441
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: as he got in he went and got those pictures

1442
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:21,839
Speaker 1: and all of that information and videos. Those Republican senators

1443
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,799
Speaker 1: know that he has this. That's why they're not stepping

1444
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 1: forward and they think, okay, well, let me just get

1445
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 1: on the evil train and maybe we'll win this thing

1446
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: and keep our country. Well, fuck you, motherfucker. Let me

1447
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: tell you it's time for every great fucking empire to fall, bitch.

1448
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: And that's what's going because you motherfucker's went around the

1449
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: world colonized, raped and pillaged every goddamned society you could

1450
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: get your hands on. Then you brought us. Oh that's

1451
01:33:52,320 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: the man. No, you know where that come is? This

1452
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: is this Mark Jennifer has run off to go find

1453
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: her phone. This is an iconic moment. Is it Mark? No,

1454
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: it's mere Lola? Is it? Oh? My god, you gotta

1455
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: get him, get him on. You know that. I've done two.

1456
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: I've done two interviews solo on this podcast, Jennifer Lewis

1457
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: and ch Angela. Those were the two that Bowen couldn't

1458
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: join me for. And I'm like, of course the mother

1459
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: and daughter hold on, yeah, got him back. Oh, this

1460
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: is too good. Spacetime DJ Pierce, the other Oh, here

1461
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: we go, and the answers, Honey, lookal's here. I'm all

1462
01:34:54,040 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: with Matt Rogers. Hey girl, Jennifer's lost coat. Theresas remember

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Speaker 1: you did the pod? Of course I do, halleluk, and

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Speaker 1: I did nothing but praise jenn the whole time. How

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Speaker 1: did the video come? Look at your what's them? I

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Speaker 1: just take a cut. Oh shut up, I'm outside. That's

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Speaker 1: breaking news on the podcast. You're gonna lose your mind.

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Speaker 1: This is we are. You've seen all the videos for

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Speaker 1: Walking in My Joy? Did me get it? You see

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Speaker 1: me wash them in the in the hair and the

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Speaker 1: what is it? The dishwasher, Michael and the refrigerator. Well,

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Speaker 1: I want to live in your house with y'all. I

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Speaker 1: know we have. Well, you're gonna die for this. Just finished.

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Speaker 1: DJ film did and did the storyboard. He went up

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Speaker 1: in my closet, got the wardrobe. We had so much fun, well,

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Speaker 1: some of us did. He lived through it. Let's just

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Speaker 1: say he lived through it. We did. We've done a

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Speaker 1: mock of Beyonce's formation. Hilarious, yes, equipped with DJ running

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Speaker 1: out and getting the police, uh like for on top

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Speaker 1: of the car. But when we finished, Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really good. So that already. No, I'll

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Speaker 1: call you back. You tell me a ship. What's up?

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Speaker 1: What's happ my ass? I'll tell you what's happening. I'm

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Speaker 1: on this God damn it. Some of y'all, y'all ahead,

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Speaker 1: I just gotta tell you, Matt, watching you and her

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Speaker 1: was so fun and reminiscent of when I working as

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Speaker 1: There are so many moments where I was like, for you,

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Speaker 1: my this moment you're basically playing d J at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of our relationship, for you're my my assistant and DJ,

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Speaker 1: believe me, I would not like Patrician or was it

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Speaker 1: was nicer one, my baby? I mean, when he thought

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Speaker 1: he was coming to the party and co that was

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Speaker 1: a heartbreak. Now all we need to do is find

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Speaker 1: out that Darcy is actually a drag queen on the

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Speaker 1: side and sas Angela, and that will really complete the

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Speaker 1: loop season two. Baby, I'm getting in those writers ears.

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Speaker 1: But wait a minute, Wait a minute, DJ. The reason

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Speaker 1: that so familiar to him because the first year he

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Speaker 1: lived here in my basement, dungeon, or however you want

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Speaker 1: to address it. I had a Christmas party and all

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Speaker 1: the holiday Wood people were there, you know, RuPaul Loretta

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Speaker 1: was coming. And when Loretta pulled up, you know I

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Speaker 1: didn't I didn't get valet, I didn't give about it

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Speaker 1: was just a party, your own fucking ballet bed. I

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Speaker 1: don't know not about hiring ballet food. So I asked DJ.

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Speaker 1: I said, DJ, Loretta Divine just pulled up. Baby, run

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Speaker 1: out there and and and get Loretta's car. And he said,

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Speaker 1: but I said, baby, don't let Loretta walk. Don't let

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Speaker 1: Loretta walk. No, we can't let Loretta walk. What is this?

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Speaker 1: There is a song now called Don't let Loretta Walk?

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Speaker 1: I know? Is it coming on? They went out there

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Speaker 1: and park Loretta's car, and then somebody else pulled up,

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Speaker 1: and I said, oh, baby, don't let them walk. Baby,

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Speaker 1: d J old you like twenty years old, I was,

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Speaker 1: and I remember everyone then just pulled up and started

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Speaker 1: handing me their keys. Oh my god. So he tells

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Speaker 1: that story when people ask him when was the first

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Speaker 1: time he met RuPaul? And RuPaul came to my Christmas?

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Speaker 1: So funny. He and when he's he was going on

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Speaker 1: the Rue Paul Show. I was like, ru got the show?

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Speaker 1: You know about it? I said, that a part for me?

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Speaker 1: He said, well, it's drag quays. I said, well you going, baby?

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Speaker 1: You going? Baby? Mom? Yeah, mommy? Yeah, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: all right, where are you? What staked? That's too bad.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you ladies, and Mama loves you. Kiss

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Speaker 1: by d j H. That's enough for you. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that was the best cameo I've ever had. Yeah. Literally,

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Speaker 1: when ch Angela DJ came on this podcast, I was

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Speaker 1: a one on one just like this, and I've only

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Speaker 1: done two of those that Bowen Couldn't make you and

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Speaker 1: Djuny mad bless it. Tell him we love him. I know, Um, Jennifer.

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Speaker 1: I have so enjoyed having you here and having this

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Speaker 1: conversation with you. I adore you, I look up to you,

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Speaker 1: and I i've It's just enriches my life every time

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Speaker 1: I'm around you in the same space. So I just

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Speaker 1: want to thank you so much for doing this pod.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you your listeners a couple of things

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Speaker 1: before I go. I always try to leave something and

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Speaker 1: somebody can, you know, just kind of maybe walk with

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Speaker 1: And this is one of my popular quotes and I

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Speaker 1: think everybody has heard it, and I can't say it enough.

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Speaker 1: The elevator to success is broken. Take stars. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be in it to win it. The moment you want

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Speaker 1: to give up, it's right around the corner. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: That's a big one. That's a big one. It's right

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Speaker 1: around the corner. You just hold on. It may not

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Speaker 1: be exactly what you want, but it'll get you to

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Speaker 1: where you're going. It's just the next step, So try

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Speaker 1: not to walk around. It's all right to be scared.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in the World's right to

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Speaker 1: be scared. We're human. But you must be unafraid. Your

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Speaker 1: generation has to unite so they don't take all of

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Speaker 1: your rights from you. You must unite. You cannot sit

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Speaker 1: on your heads. You've lived in freedom and and and

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Speaker 1: privilege and and and you did have taken it for

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Speaker 1: granted that if you get sick, there's a doctor. If

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Speaker 1: you get hungry, there's a cook. If you get well.

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Speaker 1: Are you taking care of yourself? Mhm. Last thing I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you. We all have one job, just one, and

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Speaker 1: that's self care. Take care of yourselves. Life will unfold

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Speaker 1: for you. I got everything I want. Why shouldn't you?

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Speaker 1: And I do mean everything, Matt Funny does not make

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Speaker 1: life easy, makes it easier. M hmm. If you don't

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Speaker 1: know who you are, none of it means anything. Take

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Speaker 1: care of you. Don't let none get on you. Don't people,

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Speaker 1: don't keep people in your life that are toxic. Don't

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Speaker 1: do it. Find your joy, pursue happiness and walk in

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Speaker 1: Your Joy, that's what. And how about this one? If

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Speaker 1: you purchase a book, it should be Walking in My

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Speaker 1: Joy in the Streets by Jennifer Lewis. And if you

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Speaker 1: haven't read The Mother of Black Hollywood or for Me

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Speaker 1: better yet, listen to that audio book because she is

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Speaker 1: a performer. Than enrich yourself and be doing all of that.

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Speaker 1: Um and of course stream showtimes. I love that. For you,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you one thing. Yeah, audible of Walking

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Speaker 1: My Joy. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, having read it,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait the first person I'm

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Speaker 1: saying this too. It's so good. Yeah, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what jumped in me that day, boy,

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Speaker 1: but wow, so I'm listening. I kind of wasn't even there,

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Speaker 1: which whoa. So pick up the audible is and I

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Speaker 1: actually sing. I recorded the songs in this one. Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: So so thank you, young man. I adore you. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see you on the set more Patricia

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Speaker 1: and Darcy in season for that, I hope it's announced.

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Speaker 1: I love you, Stoo