Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways. I don't know stories of things we simply
Speaker 1: don't know the answer too. Well, Hi there, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us. This is Thinking Sideways and I'm Steve as
Speaker 1: always enjoying my my co host, and this week we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about something a little different, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, seems to now be my m O. That's
Speaker 1: something you're talking about the weird crap. I'm pulling out
Speaker 1: some kind of strange things and I don't know why
Speaker 1: I've been on that, but I think you're tired of
Speaker 1: talking about murders. But this isn't uns which we are
Speaker 1: going to solve. Well, yeah, we're going to definitively solve
Speaker 1: this one. As Joe would say, well, what should open
Speaker 1: like a walnut? What mysteries that say? We're going to
Speaker 1: solve fairies? Though? Really, this no, no, this is this
Speaker 1: is not an April Fool's joke, because well April was
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago and you realized that the
Speaker 1: fairies do exist and they hear this podcast. I am
Speaker 1: on the list. We're gonna wake up with horses heads
Speaker 1: in our beds like that, a little tiny unicorn heads
Speaker 1: like the unicorn may be kind of ironic as they
Speaker 1: said that said that that's threatening signal to us, and
Speaker 1: we woke up in the morning sort of just brushed
Speaker 1: off on the floor. Oh we're gonna die with tiny death.
Speaker 1: Al Right, well, let's let's get into the story. The
Speaker 1: story is. And I don't know if either of you
Speaker 1: saw wouldn't happen, or any of our listeners, But in April,
Speaker 1: a series of photos started going around that we're claiming
Speaker 1: to have captured images of fairies on film. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a set of photographs. It was taken by
Speaker 1: a guy named John Hyatt something. It is a professor
Speaker 1: that is correct like that, you know, I knew it
Speaker 1: And as soon as you asked me, I can't remember
Speaker 1: what he's a professor of, but he's uh, he was
Speaker 1: at the Rossendale Valley which is in Lancashire, which is
Speaker 1: in England. And I did I say that la Lancashure,
Speaker 1: Thank you. I knew I said it wrong as soon
Speaker 1: as I did it. I know according to Mr Hyatt,
Speaker 1: the photographs, he didn't fake them, he didn't photoshop him.
Speaker 1: They're completely real and it's it's funny. But as I
Speaker 1: as I looked at these images, it kind of made
Speaker 1: me think back to all of the stories that I
Speaker 1: think we've all heard when we were kids about fairies,
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, let's take a look at the
Speaker 1: images and at the same time, let's kind of look
Speaker 1: into fairies and see what the deal is, because they're
Speaker 1: they're a little weird, because they're these itsy bitsy things
Speaker 1: that fly around and do good deeds with wands. It's
Speaker 1: kind of strange. And they're come in all sizes. Apparently
Speaker 1: they're up to a foot tall the size of gnats
Speaker 1: like in this picture. That is very true. They're not
Speaker 1: all good either. No, no, I'm afraid they're not. Uh So, here,
Speaker 1: let me just give a brief description of the photos
Speaker 1: that we're talking about, because that will kind of give
Speaker 1: everybody a little context pictures of course, on the website.
Speaker 1: On the website, yes, and these are Hyatt's photos, and
Speaker 1: they show about a dozen or so little quote unquote creatures,
Speaker 1: winged creatures flying about. They seem to have two little
Speaker 1: human arms, two little human legs, and a little human
Speaker 1: ish head and some insect wings and they are it's
Speaker 1: the light is kind of shining towards the camera, so
Speaker 1: they're a little, very little bit their backwards started and
Speaker 1: their emotions, so they're little blurry. Yeah, so it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of hard to tell exactly what you're
Speaker 1: looking at. The city is like buy out, by the way,
Speaker 1: just so or so answropomorphizing fairies because they exist. They
Speaker 1: could just as easily look like jellyfish, jellyfish butterfly wings.
Speaker 1: We've missed, they've been misunderstood for just this kind of
Speaker 1: gross flying creatures. It's a buzz along and that's sting you.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know mosquitoes are fairies really well, you know
Speaker 1: they are jerks, So at least in my opinion, that
Speaker 1: the mosquitoes are and they're just trying to be friends
Speaker 1: with you? Is that what it is? By sucking the
Speaker 1: blood out of me and maybe occasionally leave a parasite behind, jerks,
Speaker 1: a little little flying jerks. Well that description, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a number of photos, but that's kind of a
Speaker 1: good basic description of the photos. And that's all we know,
Speaker 1: that's all we see of. But the internet is on
Speaker 1: fire over there. The Internet is twitter about these fairies.
Speaker 1: So before we get too much into the photos, let's
Speaker 1: let's kind of break down the fairies a little bit
Speaker 1: and some theories about what fairies are and where they
Speaker 1: come from. Let's break down fairies. Let's break down fairies
Speaker 1: underneath our shoe. Um, there's there, there's Basically this is easy.
Speaker 1: There's two theories. They're real or they're not makes sense,
Speaker 1: that's really really easy, straightforward. It could be that fairies
Speaker 1: are real but just not on this planet, or they
Speaker 1: don't have magical powers. And Joe, Joe, You're you're getting weird,
Speaker 1: and there's a thousand little series. I'm I'm I'm putting
Speaker 1: these under this? Can we just go with the big
Speaker 1: headings of real or not real? And then that's followed
Speaker 1: by well, if they're real, what the heck are they?
Speaker 1: Where are those little boggers? Really? Maybe bugs? But oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. So, as I
Speaker 1: was doing the research, evidently there's a lot of information
Speaker 1: on the Internet about how to find fairies, which I
Speaker 1: didn't realize there was so much out there for this
Speaker 1: particular mythical creature. Google Maps obviously, yelp, Google maps. Is
Speaker 1: this one of their new side projects? Probably? Just going
Speaker 1: there and type in pack of fairies comes up, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: what I've read says first off to find fairies, you
Speaker 1: have to actually believe in them. So if you don't
Speaker 1: believe in them, you're you're out of luck, which might
Speaker 1: explain why I've never seen a fairy before, because they
Speaker 1: won't show themselves to nonbelievers. I know, it's not right
Speaker 1: and like non inclusive on their parts. Yeah, really really
Speaker 1: single minded. But no, and then only if you're at
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time will they show themselves.
Speaker 1: And there's there's very specific places that you have to
Speaker 1: be in order to see the fairies, Okay, like like where, well,
Speaker 1: there's a ring of toadstools. This, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of rings, by the way, A ring of toadstools,
Speaker 1: a ring of trees, a ring of dark grass. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes in your lawn you'll see that weird darker ring
Speaker 1: and then the grass will grow taller. And I think
Speaker 1: Joe once commented that that's always where you find how
Speaker 1: did you put that a little depositive, Yeah, which I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know it's from the fairies necessarily, probably not,
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe they do, you know, maybe they
Speaker 1: just like their sewage system. Yeah, anyway, a ring of stones, uh,
Speaker 1: And and one of the things about the rings, is
Speaker 1: what I was doing all this reading. Is people really
Speaker 1: warn you not to go into the rings. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the light evidently, and Poulter, guys don't
Speaker 1: go into the light because you go into the light,
Speaker 1: I mean in the ring, and the fairies meet you,
Speaker 1: and you dance with the fairies and I guess they
Speaker 1: take your mind to fairyland and then your body will
Speaker 1: just stay there and rotten, die cool. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess if you're off in fairyland, then what the hell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of it really makes me think of
Speaker 1: Grim's Tails kind of fairy tale, you know, creatures and
Speaker 1: all by the way, those lovely creatures kill you and
Speaker 1: they neat you. Yeah, back of the days when fairy
Speaker 1: tales were a lot more edgy and yeah yeah really
Speaker 1: really just but yeah so but but anyway, you're safe
Speaker 1: to go into these rings if you don't believe in fairies,
Speaker 1: because they won't show themselves to them. Over with your hownmower, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hard to mow over rocks. Oh yeah, there's the rocks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there are apparently other places to find fairies. There are,
Speaker 1: so you know, when I was a kid, it was
Speaker 1: fairy houses, which are like big trees in the forest
Speaker 1: with like really big roots kind of like more decrepit ones. Oh,
Speaker 1: you mean like like the big exposed roots of sums
Speaker 1: kind of on a knob or a knoll or something.
Speaker 1: For the ones that had fallen over or been cut
Speaker 1: over and the like stumps were still there and they
Speaker 1: were like really degraded with like lots of little holes
Speaker 1: that looked like doorways. That's the place to find fairies, right,
Speaker 1: that is that's totally one of the places. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's in old trees with big roots or these these
Speaker 1: mounds or knobs, and it's great. They even say, oh
Speaker 1: and if there's toadstools around it, you definitely know you
Speaker 1: found a fairy compound. So Portland, Oregon, Yeah, because we
Speaker 1: have mushrooms all over. The best answer ever that I
Speaker 1: found when I was looking for how to find fairies
Speaker 1: the astral plane. That makes sense because it's totally that's right.
Speaker 1: They live on another plane of existence, which is why
Speaker 1: they're so hard to find because we don't live there.
Speaker 1: Evidently it's because they live there and we live here
Speaker 1: and they can cross over and so they can show
Speaker 1: themselves when they wants. I didn't quite get what the
Speaker 1: astral how the astral plane works. Well, nobody says how
Speaker 1: it works well because you clearly are just a simpleton
Speaker 1: who doesn't understand the ways of higher thinking on the
Speaker 1: astral planes. Well about for you that that could be
Speaker 1: accept that. When I did some of the reading, it
Speaker 1: was saying that it might not be a bad thing
Speaker 1: that they live on the astral plane, because not all
Speaker 1: fairies are really nice. Yeah. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: fairy supposedly steal children. Yeah, that makes sense, It's totally believable.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done a kid that was stolen by
Speaker 1: a ferry? Well, well yeah, that's because they're changeling. You
Speaker 1: never know get replaced. What are the placing what somebody
Speaker 1: else's kid? Or this is this is where I kind
Speaker 1: of call hinky. I would say this, this theory is hinky.
Speaker 1: This is where Okay, yeah, all the other stuff we
Speaker 1: said for the last ten minutes, that's totally normal, but
Speaker 1: this is hinky. Uh. There's there's a lot of legends
Speaker 1: saying that fairy steel old children. And what it is
Speaker 1: is that evidently they come into a humans home and
Speaker 1: they steal the child and they replace the baby with
Speaker 1: another fairy, like a changeling fairy. Yeah, who they might
Speaker 1: be a sick fairy who need somebody to take care
Speaker 1: of it, or just you know, I just want to
Speaker 1: take a couple of weeks off the job, so I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna stay here. So does that mean fairies look
Speaker 1: like babies or they can just sort of their shape
Speaker 1: shifters shape shifters, And it never says what they do
Speaker 1: with the baby. And they saw that, yeah, they probably
Speaker 1: just feed him to the pigs or something. But now
Speaker 1: you saw that, you saw that photograph that the good
Speaker 1: professor took, and look, the fairies look like they're about
Speaker 1: the size of gnats. So do you know how many
Speaker 1: thousands of fairies it would take to lift that baby
Speaker 1: out of his crib and cart him off? That's where
Speaker 1: magic I mean. Okay, so here's just a very easy
Speaker 1: accessible example. Is Peter Pan's kind of a fairy, but
Speaker 1: not really, but tinker Ball was a fairy. And the
Speaker 1: whole lore behind Pure Pan, right, is that tinker Bell
Speaker 1: came and found him as an abandoned child and shipped
Speaker 1: him off to Neverland with her, and he stopped growing up,
Speaker 1: just like the Lost Boys, stopped growing up because they
Speaker 1: always come and take them. Right, So you just add
Speaker 1: a little fairy dust and you make that baby think
Speaker 1: happy thoughts, and they're gonna fly away fairy dust. Why
Speaker 1: didn't I think of that? I don't know, Well, I think,
Speaker 1: let's let's they're different. Yeah, and and you know what
Speaker 1: ties directly into that, Joe, when you're talking about you
Speaker 1: know they're too small to do anything. Is the next
Speaker 1: thing that I looked into is what a fairies look like.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we've we've all we all see when
Speaker 1: you look around art of fairies, they're all very diminutive,
Speaker 1: diminutive with a little gossamer dragonfly wings and bitsy girls,
Speaker 1: really beautiful long hair and weird colors. Yeah, that's exactly right. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, fairies really weren't shown to have wings
Speaker 1: in any kind of illustration or stories until about the
Speaker 1: last hundred years. Prior to that, going back to the
Speaker 1: Peter Pan thing, they just flew around on their own.
Speaker 1: They could just do it about years ago by whom,
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't find out who first started showing
Speaker 1: fairies with wings and why that took off. It's got
Speaker 1: to be some turn of the century illustrator who did
Speaker 1: it in the printed book? You know everybody. He had
Speaker 1: more and more access to books, and so it took off.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't ever pin down who started that. But
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe it has to do with the
Speaker 1: invention of the airplane. Think, oh, you know when was
Speaker 1: the airplane invented? Early twentieth century? Okay, well, I guess
Speaker 1: that could kind of be right in the right time frame,
Speaker 1: that would make sense. But you know, the other thing
Speaker 1: is if we think about that typical faery drawing, uh,
Speaker 1: it always says that, like I said before, they're a
Speaker 1: little diminutive things. So tinker mount, we'll say, tinker itty
Speaker 1: bitsy little little flying person. Yeah, this is again according
Speaker 1: to historical legends or lore, the fairy people are of
Speaker 1: the lot that is called the little people. So they're
Speaker 1: actually not an inch or too high. They were more
Speaker 1: between one to three feet tall, which could explain how
Speaker 1: they could easily steal a baby. It's it's like, do
Speaker 1: you remember the movie Labyrinth, and and there was the baby,
Speaker 1: the baby the baby power? Yes, do what find me
Speaker 1: of the babe? That one? Okay, well, if you remember
Speaker 1: all of the little creatures that were in the movie,
Speaker 1: and they were you know, little Jim. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: all kind of ugly looking, but they were, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger than the baby, maybe a lot
Speaker 1: bigger than the baby, but they were in that range
Speaker 1: according to legend and Lord, that's more of what the
Speaker 1: little people were like, nasty little they're they're on the
Speaker 1: order of elves and goblins and all of those. And
Speaker 1: there's a name for those. It's the elementaries. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not elementals, but they are like they are of the
Speaker 1: cast of elementaries. Yeah, elementaries are like what spirits leftover
Speaker 1: from the ancient world. No, elementaries are more of critters
Speaker 1: that do things on earth. So fairies are kind of
Speaker 1: for the earth, and then lepri cons had something different.
Speaker 1: Elves did something for the forests. And there's like nine
Speaker 1: or twelve casts of elementaries and they're mostly kind of
Speaker 1: little are Yeah, they're all the little people. They're all
Speaker 1: these little, diminutive critters that look like people but heightened
Speaker 1: in nature, and so we don't see them unless they
Speaker 1: good or bad reason decided to show themselves to That's why.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go camping, sometimes you get up
Speaker 1: in the warning and your food has been rated yeah,
Speaker 1: those things, because you know, I thought that was raccoons
Speaker 1: or ball They always say it's rac raccoons might be
Speaker 1: elementary elementaries, yea, elementaries. Yeah, yeah, good, all we know
Speaker 1: they're a little human like, uh yeah, well, and I
Speaker 1: think you know, we just hit on the other thing,
Speaker 1: which is again we were talking about in that typical illustration,
Speaker 1: the fairies are beautiful and you know, have perfect skin
Speaker 1: and glowing but really, according to this, they're kind of
Speaker 1: ugly critters and sour pus. The sour pus face is
Speaker 1: what I always think of when I think of of
Speaker 1: the ones from labor At where they're headed. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's like the evolution of so many things towards
Speaker 1: these Like if you look at angels in the Old Testament,
Speaker 1: they were scary creatures. Now angels are so yeah, and
Speaker 1: now they're wonderful creatures who just want to spread love
Speaker 1: and ferry us throughout the world. Yeah, like the you
Speaker 1: know cherubs versus wait wait hunt, wait wait you lost
Speaker 1: I know what a cherub is, right, but they didn't
Speaker 1: really exist until the kind of the Middle Ages. The
Speaker 1: idea of a cherub, okay, and the like really cute
Speaker 1: baby with wings at like the angel cherub archetype r.
Speaker 1: Was that somebody? That's just some medieval artists who first
Speaker 1: invented the whole thing? Probably propaganda. Yeah, the next kind
Speaker 1: of vein that I came across when I was doing
Speaker 1: the research on fairies. Yeah, it turns out the fairies
Speaker 1: really love the British. The British love the fairies. Stuff
Speaker 1: in England there is and the food is not very
Speaker 1: good and older. You know, they've got a lot of
Speaker 1: abandon areas, a lot of history for a really long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of places that you know, like like
Speaker 1: say the Middle East, if you were a fairy, would
Speaker 1: you gotta want to go take out residents and say
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia forests of England where it's like any all
Speaker 1: the time and nobody's gonna like tromp over you because
Speaker 1: who goes outside there? Yeah, yeah, it's wet outside. Why
Speaker 1: would I go outside? I just to stay in the
Speaker 1: house all day. I'm actually kind of suspised. We don't
Speaker 1: we don't see them around here because we're fairly moisten
Speaker 1: foresty around here. Well it's because you don't believe Joe. Oh,
Speaker 1: well there's that, but nobody you don't know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they could be all around. Yeah. Usually when I see
Speaker 1: like rings of rings of mushrooms in the forest, I
Speaker 1: picked them right, Yeah, because that's what most people do.
Speaker 1: That's why it's because we do things like that here,
Speaker 1: so the fairies are like, oh, we can't be here anymore.
Speaker 1: I can discover the next environmental causes. We're destroying fairy habitat.
Speaker 1: If that was gonna fly anywhere, it would fly in
Speaker 1: Portland's Yeah, you're absolutely right. I think we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to work on a website and start getting sim publicity. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we want that publicity, but no.
Speaker 1: So evidently the British Isles are overrun with fairies. And
Speaker 1: by that I mean written in Ireland and Scotland, all
Speaker 1: of that area, the entire United Kingdom area, not Ireland.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Ireland also, yes, I'm looping that entire
Speaker 1: area outlying islands also, all of it because according to
Speaker 1: some reports, and these were I believe the report of
Speaker 1: the BBC did this, and good on them for taking
Speaker 1: the time to look into this, but evidently that area
Speaker 1: is covered in what they refer to as good paranormal areas,
Speaker 1: which are run by fairies and ghosts, and I guess
Speaker 1: a good paranormal area is where there's a helpful creature
Speaker 1: that you can't see some one of the one of
Speaker 1: the stories that I read was there was some house
Speaker 1: and there was some road that was really confusing, and
Speaker 1: people would always get lost and they would stop at
Speaker 1: this house and they would knock on the door and
Speaker 1: a friendly old butler would answer the door and they say, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm lost. I'm trying to get to wherever, and he
Speaker 1: would say, no problem, take this and that and this
Speaker 1: and that and be on your way, and they would go. Well,
Speaker 1: the house was deserted, nobody lived in the house, So
Speaker 1: that was a good paranormal area because it was the
Speaker 1: good entities that were being the butler for these people
Speaker 1: to find their way. Don't Devin's giving me a really
Speaker 1: kind of dirty look. I don't think she believes this story.
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah. Sorry. I believe in fairies and I
Speaker 1: believe in ghosts, but that story, for some reason, I
Speaker 1: just don't believe. I have heard stories like that too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we all know. So the reporter did the
Speaker 1: research here though, They went through twenty five years of
Speaker 1: police reports, so these were things that were filed with
Speaker 1: the police. Yeah, these are all supernatural. Uh, there's a
Speaker 1: huge number of supernatural events. And by huge I mean
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty five reports to the police. I'll
Speaker 1: only forty four of which were related to fairies. I
Speaker 1: mean the rest we're all ghosts and which is and
Speaker 1: Casper somebody I don't know, but forty four of them
Speaker 1: were fairies. So obviously they like that area that or
Speaker 1: people in that area are prone to reporting quote paranormal activities. So,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens when you wander
Speaker 1: the forest and you start randomly eating mushrooms, you start
Speaker 1: reporting stuff. I mean like everybody, you know, like everybody
Speaker 1: at some point in their life has something happened to
Speaker 1: them and they're like, WHOA, that was super weird. Right,
Speaker 1: Not very many people have that WHOA, that was super
Speaker 1: weird moment and then go, I better call the police
Speaker 1: and follow report. Yeah, maybe it's just that this area,
Speaker 1: you know, But I think the thing is maybe is
Speaker 1: that here we're much more prone to getting in trouble
Speaker 1: for calling the cops. What are considered a name report
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't even file. They'd be like Okay, ma'am, okay,
Speaker 1: there a Bobby is like, okay, all report says saw
Speaker 1: fairy that gave him a beer. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think actually, if you called nine one one report the
Speaker 1: fair they send a swat team and maybe, well, let's
Speaker 1: go on to this. This gets more into the what
Speaker 1: are fairies? This next bit that I've come across, which
Speaker 1: is freaking awesome, they're aliens. I think that's freaking awesome, amazing.
Speaker 1: I know, go ahead and say it. I know what
Speaker 1: is the people who look into aliens? Who followed yep,
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew you'd want to talk about you.
Speaker 1: Those aren't people who look into aliens. Those are people
Speaker 1: who look into UFOs but are ancient ancient alien ologists.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, I'm trying to come up with
Speaker 1: a good term that we can use. It's okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: but it would explain a lot, it would. But but
Speaker 1: here's here's how the folks propose that fairies are actually aliens.
Speaker 1: And this is a it's a fuzzy line that they run.
Speaker 1: We've all heard the phrase extraterrestrial, which means that it's
Speaker 1: something not from Earth coming here or not from Earth.
Speaker 1: And then but of this universe. Well, according to this theory,
Speaker 1: the fairies are ultra terrestrials. What is an ultra terrestrial? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that took me a while to kind of wrap my
Speaker 1: head arrectally. I think I'm kind of an ultra terrestrial
Speaker 1: ultrast Okay, here's here's how this runs. As humans, we
Speaker 1: have all done this planet. We've always considered ourselves to
Speaker 1: be the most intelligent and the only intelligent species on
Speaker 1: the planet. Self aware. Yeah, but according to this there's
Speaker 1: another species that evolved here, either before us or alongside us,
Speaker 1: and that species is the ultra terrestrial the lizard people know,
Speaker 1: not the lizard people. Are you sure, because that's no,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. You know, they could
Speaker 1: actually have like evolved before us and actually nudged humanity
Speaker 1: along on its course towards evolution. You sound like an
Speaker 1: ancient alien theorist nation alien upologist. Yeah. Can we not
Speaker 1: have that argument again? Come on, let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me keep going here. You guys are going to
Speaker 1: just spiral down. The rabbit wasn't really, But um so,
Speaker 1: the ultra terrestrials, this other species, they're more intelligent than
Speaker 1: we are, and they've evidently mastered ability to hide themselves
Speaker 1: from us, at least for the most part. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: accident when we see them, or made they intentionally show themselves.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh. And there is a lot of
Speaker 1: historical writing that references supernatural beings that and I'm quoting here.
Speaker 1: Supernatural beings seemingly superior to humans have been reported throughout
Speaker 1: history and in previous eras they were called God's angels, ogres, fairies, brownies,
Speaker 1: little people's demons, and more. Yeah. That, I mean, we
Speaker 1: talked about this every once in a while, particularly with
Speaker 1: our out of place and out of time artifact that
Speaker 1: you know, proof is fairly strong that there was something
Speaker 1: here that was you know, whether it was us just
Speaker 1: you know, forgetting about our history or whatever. It's always
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Maybe they made goldback to Tempe. Maybe.
Speaker 1: But here's here's where the fairies specifically come in this
Speaker 1: with this theory is uh. We won't say they're upologists,
Speaker 1: but the people who follow this point out similarities between
Speaker 1: aliens and fairies in kind of all of the general
Speaker 1: lore that we know. Okay, aliens have a little butterfly wings. No,
Speaker 1: not exactly, not exactly, Okay, aliens tend to be the
Speaker 1: cause of lost time, and so the fairies, which again
Speaker 1: this is this is that thing where you go into
Speaker 1: the fairy ring, or people will chase fairies or willow
Speaker 1: of the whisp, willow whisp? Is that the correct phrase?
Speaker 1: I believe the little glowing guys in the forest that
Speaker 1: people will chase that run them to their demise. We're okay, yeah, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so there's the lost time bit. Aliens are usually described
Speaker 1: as being shorter than us with big, large eyes, and
Speaker 1: fairies tend to be described that way to uh. And
Speaker 1: evidently some aliens use quote unquote power rods. They used
Speaker 1: tasers to incapacitate people, which fairies use their magic ones,
Speaker 1: so that could be the same thing. So according to
Speaker 1: these people, there's all these similarities of why aliens are
Speaker 1: actually fairies and fairies are actually ultraterrestrials and we just
Speaker 1: haven't figured it out. Hoaxes hoaxes exactly right, because hoaxes
Speaker 1: are where we're going next. Alright, So we've talked about
Speaker 1: all the fairies real theories, and I realized I almost
Speaker 1: said that in a dimissive, dismissive tone, which was not
Speaker 1: my intention. I admit that I don't. Please, don't take
Speaker 1: it to me. No, no, your horse heads in my bed. No,
Speaker 1: but no. There have been a slew of hoaxes through
Speaker 1: the years involving fairies, which which really makes me question
Speaker 1: these particular photos by Mr Hyatt. And there's there's two
Speaker 1: hoaxes that I want to bring to the front specifically.
Speaker 1: That was one very famous one there was, and that's
Speaker 1: the first one that we're going to talk about the
Speaker 1: first one I want to talk about is the Coventry fairies,
Speaker 1: which Coventry fairies are Cottingly fairies. Thank you, Joe. I
Speaker 1: don't know where Coventry came from, but it's cotting you
Speaker 1: you're just thinking about England. It's it's yeah, biggy pudding.
Speaker 1: And what's the blood pudding? Blood porridge? Yeah, that one
Speaker 1: which I've never eaten, by the way, it really looks gross.
Speaker 1: Actually made of blood? What's it? Made it a food?
Speaker 1: All right? The Coddingly fairies were this is a hoax. Okay,
Speaker 1: we know this is a hoax now, but it was
Speaker 1: a series of five photographs that we were put out
Speaker 1: by two young women is and they started in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventeen and they were cousins and I think the they
Speaker 1: were nine in sixteen when they did their first photos
Speaker 1: and they supposedly using their their parents camera, photographed themselves
Speaker 1: with fairies, and these photos started go making the rounds.
Speaker 1: Eventually none other were found by none other than Sir
Speaker 1: Arthur Conan Doyle. It was it was kind of into
Speaker 1: that whole level spiritualism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, he
Speaker 1: kind of embarrassed himself with that whole things he did.
Speaker 1: And you know what the said part is is that
Speaker 1: he believed him. He wanted to believe him. He sent
Speaker 1: somebody out, they took a look at the fairy photos.
Speaker 1: They went out with the girls in the woods. They
Speaker 1: reported back, yes, Sir, I think these are real. He
Speaker 1: then turns around and he publishes an article that was
Speaker 1: in It was a publication which I can't I can't
Speaker 1: tell if it was a magazine or newspaper, but it
Speaker 1: was called The Strand. And then he followed that with
Speaker 1: a book which he titled The Coming of the Fairies.
Speaker 1: Send a good or a bad thing coming coming to
Speaker 1: kick our ask and take our world away. We don't know,
Speaker 1: but uh, unfortunately, the images were eventually admitted to be fakes.
Speaker 1: That was a long time though. Yeah, no, because I
Speaker 1: don't know how anybody thought they were real. Let me
Speaker 1: let me kind of walking through what's going on here
Speaker 1: before we just let the cat out of the bag.
Speaker 1: So they were paper cut outs from a book called
Speaker 1: the Princess Mary's Gift Book. And these little cutouts were
Speaker 1: about six inches high. And these girls literally just with
Speaker 1: a pair of scissors caught him out of the book
Speaker 1: and then posed with them. And they put them on
Speaker 1: hat pins, like against a tree or in a plant,
Speaker 1: or maybe holding them in their hand. And I guess
Speaker 1: maybe if you're in nineties England it's easier to believe.
Speaker 1: I guess you know. Part of that is the like
Speaker 1: photoshop stuff, right like or if you watch like a
Speaker 1: movie from the seventies, right an action movie, but there's
Speaker 1: all this like special effects stuff, and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's awful. And you talked to somebody maybe Joe will
Speaker 1: remember this, who saw that at the time, and was like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: special effects are awesome because you just that's what you think.
Speaker 1: I think. You don't, you don't know what a fake
Speaker 1: look you And I look at these, of course, and
Speaker 1: I'm an I just say, wow, those are so fake.
Speaker 1: They look so fake. But I can also understand that,
Speaker 1: like you know, faking photos wasn't really a thing at
Speaker 1: the time. People would just kind of and who would
Speaker 1: think that a nine year old and an eleven year
Speaker 1: old girl would fake pictures like this or take something
Speaker 1: that way. And here's the thing, you know, when they
Speaker 1: finally admitted that they faked him, it wasn't ntil the eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was three when they finally fast up and said
Speaker 1: that they had faked those images. So this whole time
Speaker 1: they were saying, oh, yeah, they were real, but to
Speaker 1: the girl's credit, which I guess, actually it's these ladies
Speaker 1: at this point when they finally admitted that they had
Speaker 1: faked the whole thing, they faked him because they were
Speaker 1: embarrassed because they were doing it for a laugh. They
Speaker 1: were goofing around and suddenly famous Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Speaker 1: and his people show up and my gosh, you've got
Speaker 1: to show us these fairies, and um, yeah, it was embarrassing.
Speaker 1: We just totally fake that, dude. It just doesn't People
Speaker 1: have really fallen into some really bad situations because you're
Speaker 1: embarrassed to admit I was totally totally fake. That, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess. The other thing for me is that, like
Speaker 1: the little fairies are so stylized. You look at them
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, they look like they're exactly fashionable
Speaker 1: for the night. The fairies too, you know, they're wearing
Speaker 1: flapper dresses with bobs and like literally look like flappers
Speaker 1: who just happened to have wings and and kind of
Speaker 1: like and there's a there's a white outline around them
Speaker 1: the glow. You know. The other thing is that Princess
Speaker 1: Mary's gift book. I mean maybe maybe it was kind
Speaker 1: of a bomb and not very many people saw it,
Speaker 1: but you would think somebody that would recognize, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: this is the thing of the twenties, right versus now,
Speaker 1: Like now somebody would have been like reverse google searching
Speaker 1: that immediately, right, whereas like in the twenties, you'd be
Speaker 1: like wow, maybe you know, like one person might say, oh,
Speaker 1: I think I saw those well, you know, and here's
Speaker 1: the other thing, and this is to maybe give credit
Speaker 1: to these folks for buying into it, is a lot
Speaker 1: of the lore of fairies said that fairies dressed the
Speaker 1: way everybody else in that contemporary time dressed. That's how
Speaker 1: they blend in. That's how they So in the sixteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: they were wearing the green Robin hood hat or whatever
Speaker 1: might be, you know, the big seventeen hundred style dresses
Speaker 1: with the bell shapes. We need to have a serious
Speaker 1: conversation about historical fashion. Yeah, do I look like I
Speaker 1: know fashion? I'm wearing shorts and a T shirt and
Speaker 1: fashion sense also wearing shorts and a T shirt. But
Speaker 1: the point is they would wear clothes of the era
Speaker 1: that they were in. So the fight of help people
Speaker 1: buy into the fashion of the era? Is that matter?
Speaker 1: Devn No, it's And I'm still laughing about these this
Speaker 1: Peter pan robe hood hat thing that you're I literally
Speaker 1: have no frame of reference, right, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: have a favorite. I don't have to. We're talking about fairies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so anyway, so if we found them around here, they
Speaker 1: could rest like hipsters, tbrs and beards, a little fairy mustache.
Speaker 1: That sounds right. I think I see a good movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right up there with Shark Nato. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like call Arnold Tomorrow Schorseninger. Yeah, Arnold, I have a
Speaker 1: good movie for you. I scrolled it on the back
Speaker 1: of a napkin, you flush it out and send me
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Yeah, okay, here's the other fake that
Speaker 1: I want to bring up, And this one's actually pretty
Speaker 1: modern and it's pretty bad. Did either of you look
Speaker 1: at the images of this this this particular fake, This
Speaker 1: fake is from Guada, Guadalajara in two thousand even Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's okay. So here's here's the story. This is a
Speaker 1: blatant fake, ladies and gentlemen, So I'm just gonna preface
Speaker 1: it right off the bat. But it's a bricklayer who
Speaker 1: claims that he was out picking fruit one day and
Speaker 1: he found a fairy and he caught it, and being
Speaker 1: a nice guy, what did he do? He instantly threw
Speaker 1: it into a jar for Malda Hide to preserve its idea. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: there's there's that's questionable behavior. But we're gonna leave that alone.
Speaker 1: But here's the whole thing. I mean, most of us,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously don't go out to pick fruit and
Speaker 1: carrying a jar from alde Hyde. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: normally have that with me. No, even if I grabbed
Speaker 1: the ferry and took it home, I don't have any
Speaker 1: formalde Hide at home either. Yeah, okay, So but here's
Speaker 1: the thing. There's a video, there's news footage of this,
Speaker 1: and they show the jar with the fairy in it.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that fairy. He's obviously a toy. It's very
Speaker 1: obviously like a superhero kind of cheap cast toy. I
Speaker 1: don't mean like the flexible arm kind of toy. I
Speaker 1: mean cast solid red and yellow, but really cheap and translucent.
Speaker 1: And it is sitting on the bottom and you can
Speaker 1: tell the wings are just pinned to the back of it,
Speaker 1: and their plastic as well. And people went nuts for it.
Speaker 1: Don't have a sense of here. But the thing about it,
Speaker 1: for all that stuff, like somebody finds a you know,
Speaker 1: finds the version Mary's likeness on a piece of toast,
Speaker 1: and then somebody pays five thousand dollars for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then this stuff really really bad. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I actually, and this is the funny thing. I wanted
Speaker 1: to prove definitively what toy that was, and I spent
Speaker 1: hours on the internet scrolling through toys that would have
Speaker 1: come out at that time. I couldn't find it. Really
Speaker 1: frustrated me. It looked like it would be something from
Speaker 1: the Credibles or the super Friends, not super Friends, but
Speaker 1: the Justice Leagues or something like that. But I couldn't
Speaker 1: find who it was. But it looks oh it looked
Speaker 1: like something from Ben Ten. That's where I bet it was.
Speaker 1: I think it's X Men. Is it an X Men?
Speaker 1: Well they'll see. But the body was yellow in the
Speaker 1: arms and were red, which makes me ten. But there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Okay, first of all, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, Ben Ten, that we have
Speaker 1: a little a little weird um. But I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: like knockoff X Men toys often have the like weird
Speaker 1: different colors or yeah, they're not right on purpose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but look literally millions of photographs of toys and couldn't
Speaker 1: find it. Maybe that means it really was a fairy
Speaker 1: plastic fairies actually look like fairies hit from melode Hyde
Speaker 1: and instantly turned to plastic. That's what the toy industry
Speaker 1: is based on. Yeah, but it wasn't necessarily plastic. It
Speaker 1: would probably just Rigor Mortises said in that stuff that
Speaker 1: from out of Haid and killed by that guy. Yeah, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was just okay, you know what, I'm willing to
Speaker 1: run with that We're just gonna go with that. It's
Speaker 1: a dead fairy. It's a dead fairy. Everybody, everybody believe.
Speaker 1: Clap your hands if you believe, Clap harder, Clap harder.
Speaker 1: She's dying. She's dead. Do you believe in fairies? I do?
Speaker 1: I do. Somebody will get my references. That's that's a
Speaker 1: that's a Peter Pan. Okay, yeah, I know where are
Speaker 1: we going now? Yeah, so let's uh, let's conclude this.
Speaker 1: Let's get yeah, let's conclude. Let's get back to Hi.
Speaker 1: It's photos. Okay, so we've talked. Are you saying that
Speaker 1: all those bugs, those fairies you photographed were just tiny
Speaker 1: little cardboard cutouts, that's what you're saying. Oh, well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not actually, uh so here's here's what I did,
Speaker 1: is is I started looking at what Hyatt said, and
Speaker 1: then I started looking at the photos, and then I
Speaker 1: started doing my research because and I'm not the only
Speaker 1: one who's done this research. So I'm not the one
Speaker 1: who came that the only one that's come to this conclusion.
Speaker 1: But let's walk through this. Is that Hyatt claims that
Speaker 1: he has photo photographed many insects, and he says that
Speaker 1: the creatures that he shot. They're not bugs, so of
Speaker 1: course they must be fairies. That makes sense. I can
Speaker 1: see what do you mean. I can see what he's saying,
Speaker 1: but I don't believe in fairies. But I also think
Speaker 1: that he's saying the same thing Joe said at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this show, which is he's anthromorphizing these things. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm putting these human characteristics on them. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I don't totally agree with the assertion they're not bugs.
Speaker 1: You still think they're fairies? No, I don't agree with
Speaker 1: the assertion that they're not buggs. Oh, okay, okay, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I misunderstand what you're saying. I got it. We're on
Speaker 1: the same page. That good. Yeah. Yeah, So this guy
Speaker 1: is like, you know, like saying that you know, I've
Speaker 1: photographed the insects and these aren't insects because you're not
Speaker 1: an insect. I know what, I know what insects looks like.
Speaker 1: This is not insects. How many millions of different insects
Speaker 1: are there in the world? Gazillions gazillions, which is a
Speaker 1: real number in my head. So, okay, if you take
Speaker 1: a look at the photos from Hyatt and you look
Speaker 1: at the arms and the legs of the fairies as
Speaker 1: he calls them, and you look closely at them, you'll
Speaker 1: notice you'll see where the wings join the body, and
Speaker 1: then you'll see those arms and legs are pointed away
Speaker 1: as if they're in motion, so they're at a they're
Speaker 1: at an angle away from the body. Yeah, all right. Well,
Speaker 1: if you look at flying insects when they're in flight,
Speaker 1: they fly that way because they don't have any tension
Speaker 1: in their legs, so they just let the air current
Speaker 1: push them back, which from behind would make it kind
Speaker 1: of look like a little person. Counterpoint, Ferries would probably
Speaker 1: do the same thing because they're lazy and they don't
Speaker 1: want to hold their arms up. Why yeah, why hold
Speaker 1: your arms up? Why not just go? I would hold
Speaker 1: them out to the side like I was an airplane
Speaker 1: at the same time. I do that when I'm on
Speaker 1: a bicycle all the time. I'm the king of the world.
Speaker 1: I think you would just get tired after a while.
Speaker 1: You're putting a lot of like physical coersion. I will
Speaker 1: buy that point. Um. Now here's the thing though, and
Speaker 1: it looks specifically at mayflies. Do you know what may
Speaker 1: fly is? Yeah, they're little itty bitty guys that cluster
Speaker 1: up in swarms and they kind of annoy the crap
Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna start to see
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities with may flies. Uh. They have
Speaker 1: a head and they have wings that are proportionally correct
Speaker 1: when you apply them to the creatures that are in
Speaker 1: the image. Uh. They also have what are known as
Speaker 1: and I hope I'm saying this right searcy c e
Speaker 1: R C. I maybe right. I'm not gonna kind of
Speaker 1: like searchy better about it's a it's a Greek word.
Speaker 1: It's an ancient Greek word, but it's these are what
Speaker 1: are almost the easy way to say it is there
Speaker 1: too little antenna to come out of the back of
Speaker 1: their abdomen. So have you either of you seen silverfish? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they have those two little antennas that stick out
Speaker 1: the back of Yeah. But that's what that's what cearcy
Speaker 1: are there in silver fish? Did I ever tell you
Speaker 1: about the big silver fish they killed years and years ago? No?
Speaker 1: I feel like there is a story for another time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have been. Come and tell you. Um. So,
Speaker 1: when they're flying around, those things dangling behind could look
Speaker 1: like the legs so I'm I'm going strongly towards the
Speaker 1: fact that these are may fly I when I saw them,
Speaker 1: I immediately thought, oh, water skaters. Oh yeah, they do
Speaker 1: kind of look like water skeeters who have the forearms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but water skeeters don't fly around. Sometimes they do a
Speaker 1: little bit, I think when they're little little ones. Once
Speaker 1: they bolt into adults, I don't think they fly around.
Speaker 1: Do they they have wings? I don't know why they
Speaker 1: wouldn't because they can skip around in the water. Why
Speaker 1: would I fly? This is way cooler because there's stuff
Speaker 1: in the water. Yeah, that's okay. So here's the other
Speaker 1: thing is if I'm gonna I'm sticking with it. These
Speaker 1: are mayflies. May flies and all those kind of little gnats.
Speaker 1: They tend to swarm up because they actually mate in
Speaker 1: the air. These things have like a day or three lifespan.
Speaker 1: When they're adults, they are they like part of the
Speaker 1: Yard the Art High Club. Wow, Joe, well done. Yes,
Speaker 1: they are part of the Yard High Club. And so
Speaker 1: that's when they they're all swarming around, Like at night
Speaker 1: you'll see them all or in the evening you'll see
Speaker 1: them all swarming around together in a big cloud. In
Speaker 1: your yard. That's what they're They're mating. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's what he got a photo of. Is he
Speaker 1: got to swarm a may flies bunched up and he
Speaker 1: just happened to catch a picture of it and zoomed in.
Speaker 1: Did he did he come across this photo when he
Speaker 1: was like reviewing at home? That's behind this. I have
Speaker 1: not seen anywhere where he says exactly what he was
Speaker 1: photographing when he caught these images, Nor have I seen
Speaker 1: anything that shows the full image. We only get the
Speaker 1: cropped versions that show these little creatures. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: taking pictures of nearby flowers and he looked later a
Speaker 1: little closer at the little small part of the image. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be, But personally I assert that they're these
Speaker 1: these clouds of midges or whatever they are, that are
Speaker 1: flying around that we always see in our yard, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I personally find hilarious at my house
Speaker 1: when those little clouds drift over to the chickens and
Speaker 1: the chickens go insane or like picking them out of
Speaker 1: the cloud. But then again, maybe my chickens are just
Speaker 1: murdering fairies chi you know. Yeah, it explains the little
Speaker 1: screams that. I hear my dog goes after a little
Speaker 1: little bugs like that too, So could be, could be.
Speaker 1: Here's here's my one other problem with with this story.
Speaker 1: With these images, Hyatt has labeled them the Rossendale Fairies. Okay,
Speaker 1: remember we said they're the Cuttingly Fairies. Were the ones
Speaker 1: that were from the nineteen twenties. Yeah, so it's almost
Speaker 1: as if it's a wink and a nod towards those
Speaker 1: original photos. And he was. He's only like thirty miles
Speaker 1: approximately away from where those photos, those twenties photos were taken,
Speaker 1: So it could very easily be that they were just
Speaker 1: looking at the pictures like, hey, it looks like a
Speaker 1: fair vaguely looks like a fairy. Hey. You know, we
Speaker 1: could just like make a joke towards them and call
Speaker 1: it good. Yeah. Well, we'll just keep an eye on
Speaker 1: the interwebs for other than that the near future and
Speaker 1: see if he find it comes and fesss up that
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing was a fake. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: might take sixty years again before he fesces up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew they were bugs. Hopefully, you know, nobody will
Speaker 1: come and write a story about his fairies. Hopefully, Hopefully,
Speaker 1: no famous author who's the spiritualist will come and Stephen
Speaker 1: King will not go to his property, hopefully not. But
Speaker 1: that's that's what we have on the fairies. Uh. Personally,
Speaker 1: I I don't know about YouTube, but I think the
Speaker 1: photos are bunk. I think they're fake. I don't know,
Speaker 1: not necessarily fake in a sensitive photoshop to anything. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're fairies. Yeah, I think they're just insects.
Speaker 1: I would, I would agree with that. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: agree with you that fairies are not real, but I
Speaker 1: do agree that this picture definitely the bugs. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's good. They should look like bugs, all right. Well, oh,
Speaker 1: and before we before we move away from the story,
Speaker 1: I did just want to to throw out a big
Speaker 1: thanks to Mandy, one of our listeners. She she helped
Speaker 1: us with some of the research on this which was
Speaker 1: really great and it was really awesome. So thanks Mandy.
Speaker 1: We appreciate all help. Thanks. Uh. And that that having
Speaker 1: been said, with the end of the story, let's of
Speaker 1: course you can see the photos of the ross and fairies.
Speaker 1: We'll have a photo of it on the website and
Speaker 1: we'll also have some of the links for the story
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Speaker 1: And since I said email, I guess we should talk
Speaker 1: about some emails. Well, the first one I've got came
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Speaker 1: was just going to mention that, you know, the two
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Speaker 1: like Devon, they like my episode, they like make references
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Speaker 1: two are the cool kids. We are were not the
Speaker 1: excitable hipster Do we're back to that? Yeah, I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna live that tone. I think, Well, we've got another
Speaker 1: email that we that we picked out and Joe, you're
Speaker 1: going to read that one. Yeah, okay. Our next email
Speaker 1: is from Teresa, and I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.
Speaker 1: It's RAS or something else, you know. Feel free to
Speaker 1: send us an email and direct it. But anyway, she says,
Speaker 1: this is a funny. This is pretty funny email. You
Speaker 1: guys read it, not agree it's funny. So she says, no,
Speaker 1: I have three more episodes and that will be all
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Speaker 1: she's literally except for the chick and the dogs, and
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Speaker 1: um uh, you know go back and get my episodes
Speaker 1: another listeners. Anyway, I have sent us another email. Okay, anyway,
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Speaker 1: mention um, I have listened to UVB like obsessively every
Speaker 1: once in a while. It is great for drowning out
Speaker 1: in a conversations, just listening to our episode or just
Speaker 1: your brain just kind of tones everything out. So does
Speaker 1: somebody actually like replicated on the internet in real time recording? Right? No,
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Speaker 1: everybody for the email, and yeah, thanks sex, especially Teresa.
Speaker 1: It was a very funny email. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: good one. Well, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna
Speaker 1: flit her out of here. So we will talk to
Speaker 1: you next week. Yeah everybody, Hi, guys,