1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways. I don't know stories of things we simply 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: don't know the answer too. Well, Hi there, thanks for 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: joining us. This is Thinking Sideways and I'm Steve as 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: always enjoying my my co host, and this week we're 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: going to talk about something a little different, which, by 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: the way, seems to now be my m O. That's 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: something you're talking about the weird crap. I'm pulling out 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: some kind of strange things and I don't know why 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: I've been on that, but I think you're tired of 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: talking about murders. But this isn't uns which we are 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: going to solve. Well, yeah, we're going to definitively solve 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: this one. As Joe would say, well, what should open 13 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: like a walnut? What mysteries that say? We're going to 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: solve fairies? Though? Really, this no, no, this is this 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: is not an April Fool's joke, because well April was 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago and you realized that the 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: fairies do exist and they hear this podcast. I am 18 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: on the list. We're gonna wake up with horses heads 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: in our beds like that, a little tiny unicorn heads 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: like the unicorn may be kind of ironic as they 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: said that said that that's threatening signal to us, and 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: we woke up in the morning sort of just brushed 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: off on the floor. Oh we're gonna die with tiny death. 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: Al Right, well, let's let's get into the story. The 25 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: story is. And I don't know if either of you 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: saw wouldn't happen, or any of our listeners, But in April, 27 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: a series of photos started going around that we're claiming 28 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: to have captured images of fairies on film. Yeah. Yeah, 29 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: it was a set of photographs. It was taken by 30 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: a guy named John Hyatt something. It is a professor 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: that is correct like that, you know, I knew it 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: And as soon as you asked me, I can't remember 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: what he's a professor of, but he's uh, he was 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: at the Rossendale Valley which is in Lancashire, which is 35 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: in England. And I did I say that la Lancashure, 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. I knew I said it wrong as soon 37 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: as I did it. I know according to Mr Hyatt, 38 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: the photographs, he didn't fake them, he didn't photoshop him. 39 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: They're completely real and it's it's funny. But as I 40 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: as I looked at these images, it kind of made 41 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: me think back to all of the stories that I 42 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: think we've all heard when we were kids about fairies, 43 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: and I thought, well, let's take a look at the 44 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: images and at the same time, let's kind of look 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: into fairies and see what the deal is, because they're 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: they're a little weird, because they're these itsy bitsy things 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: that fly around and do good deeds with wands. It's 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: kind of strange. And they're come in all sizes. Apparently 49 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: they're up to a foot tall the size of gnats 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: like in this picture. That is very true. They're not 51 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: all good either. No, no, I'm afraid they're not. Uh So, here, 52 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: let me just give a brief description of the photos 53 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: that we're talking about, because that will kind of give 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: everybody a little context pictures of course, on the website. 55 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: On the website, yes, and these are Hyatt's photos, and 56 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: they show about a dozen or so little quote unquote creatures, 57 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: winged creatures flying about. They seem to have two little 58 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: human arms, two little human legs, and a little human 59 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: ish head and some insect wings and they are it's 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: the light is kind of shining towards the camera, so 61 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: they're a little, very little bit their backwards started and 62 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: their emotions, so they're little blurry. Yeah, so it is. 63 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of hard to tell exactly what you're 64 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: looking at. The city is like buy out, by the way, 65 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: just so or so answropomorphizing fairies because they exist. They 66 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: could just as easily look like jellyfish, jellyfish butterfly wings. 67 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: We've missed, they've been misunderstood for just this kind of 68 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: gross flying creatures. It's a buzz along and that's sting you. 69 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: Maybe you know mosquitoes are fairies really well, you know 70 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: they are jerks, So at least in my opinion, that 71 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: the mosquitoes are and they're just trying to be friends 72 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: with you? Is that what it is? By sucking the 73 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: blood out of me and maybe occasionally leave a parasite behind, jerks, 74 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: a little little flying jerks. Well that description, I mean, 75 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: there's a number of photos, but that's kind of a 76 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: good basic description of the photos. And that's all we know, 77 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: that's all we see of. But the internet is on 78 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: fire over there. The Internet is twitter about these fairies. 79 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: So before we get too much into the photos, let's 80 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: let's kind of break down the fairies a little bit 81 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: and some theories about what fairies are and where they 82 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: come from. Let's break down fairies. Let's break down fairies 83 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: underneath our shoe. Um, there's there, there's Basically this is easy. 84 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: There's two theories. They're real or they're not makes sense, 85 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: that's really really easy, straightforward. It could be that fairies 86 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: are real but just not on this planet, or they 87 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: don't have magical powers. And Joe, Joe, You're you're getting weird, 88 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: and there's a thousand little series. I'm I'm I'm putting 89 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: these under this? Can we just go with the big 90 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: headings of real or not real? And then that's followed 91 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: by well, if they're real, what the heck are they? 92 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: Where are those little boggers? Really? Maybe bugs? But oh no, 93 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. So, as I 94 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: was doing the research, evidently there's a lot of information 95 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: on the Internet about how to find fairies, which I 96 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: didn't realize there was so much out there for this 97 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: particular mythical creature. Google Maps obviously, yelp, Google maps. Is 98 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: this one of their new side projects? Probably? Just going 99 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: there and type in pack of fairies comes up, all right, Well, 100 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: what I've read says first off to find fairies, you 101 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: have to actually believe in them. So if you don't 102 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: believe in them, you're you're out of luck, which might 103 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: explain why I've never seen a fairy before, because they 104 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: won't show themselves to nonbelievers. I know, it's not right 105 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: and like non inclusive on their parts. Yeah, really really 106 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: single minded. But no, and then only if you're at 107 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the right place at the right time will they show themselves. 108 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: And there's there's very specific places that you have to 109 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: be in order to see the fairies, Okay, like like where, well, 110 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: there's a ring of toadstools. This, this is gonna be 111 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: a lot of rings, by the way, A ring of toadstools, 112 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: a ring of trees, a ring of dark grass. You know, 113 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: sometimes in your lawn you'll see that weird darker ring 114 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: and then the grass will grow taller. And I think 115 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Joe once commented that that's always where you find how 116 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: did you put that a little depositive, Yeah, which I 117 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't know it's from the fairies necessarily, probably not, 118 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe they do, you know, maybe they 119 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: just like their sewage system. Yeah, anyway, a ring of stones, uh, 120 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: And and one of the things about the rings, is 121 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: what I was doing all this reading. Is people really 122 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: warn you not to go into the rings. Yeah, it's 123 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: kind of like the light evidently, and Poulter, guys don't 124 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: go into the light because you go into the light, 125 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean in the ring, and the fairies meet you, 126 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: and you dance with the fairies and I guess they 127 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: take your mind to fairyland and then your body will 128 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: just stay there and rotten, die cool. I don't know. 129 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I guess if you're off in fairyland, then what the hell? Yeah, 130 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of it really makes me think of 131 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Grim's Tails kind of fairy tale, you know, creatures and 132 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: all by the way, those lovely creatures kill you and 133 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: they neat you. Yeah, back of the days when fairy 134 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: tales were a lot more edgy and yeah yeah really 135 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: really just but yeah so but but anyway, you're safe 136 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: to go into these rings if you don't believe in fairies, 137 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: because they won't show themselves to them. Over with your hownmower, Yeah, 138 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: hard to mow over rocks. Oh yeah, there's the rocks. Yeah, 139 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: but there are apparently other places to find fairies. There are, 140 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: so you know, when I was a kid, it was 141 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: fairy houses, which are like big trees in the forest 142 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: with like really big roots kind of like more decrepit ones. Oh, 143 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: you mean like like the big exposed roots of sums 144 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: kind of on a knob or a knoll or something. 145 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: For the ones that had fallen over or been cut 146 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: over and the like stumps were still there and they 147 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: were like really degraded with like lots of little holes 148 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: that looked like doorways. That's the place to find fairies, right, 149 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: that is that's totally one of the places. Yeah, it's 150 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: it's in old trees with big roots or these these 151 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: mounds or knobs, and it's great. They even say, oh 152 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: and if there's toadstools around it, you definitely know you 153 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: found a fairy compound. So Portland, Oregon, Yeah, because we 154 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: have mushrooms all over. The best answer ever that I 155 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: found when I was looking for how to find fairies 156 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: the astral plane. That makes sense because it's totally that's right. 157 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: They live on another plane of existence, which is why 158 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: they're so hard to find because we don't live there. 159 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: Evidently it's because they live there and we live here 160 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: and they can cross over and so they can show 161 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: themselves when they wants. I didn't quite get what the 162 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: astral how the astral plane works. Well, nobody says how 163 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: it works well because you clearly are just a simpleton 164 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't understand the ways of higher thinking on the 165 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: astral planes. Well about for you that that could be 166 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: accept that. When I did some of the reading, it 167 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: was saying that it might not be a bad thing 168 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: that they live on the astral plane, because not all 169 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: fairies are really nice. Yeah. As a matter of fact, 170 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: fairy supposedly steal children. Yeah, that makes sense, It's totally believable. 171 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Have you ever done a kid that was stolen by 172 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: a ferry? Well, well yeah, that's because they're changeling. You 173 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: never know get replaced. What are the placing what somebody 174 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: else's kid? Or this is this is where I kind 175 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: of call hinky. I would say this, this theory is hinky. 176 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: This is where Okay, yeah, all the other stuff we 177 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: said for the last ten minutes, that's totally normal, but 178 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: this is hinky. Uh. There's there's a lot of legends 179 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: saying that fairy steel old children. And what it is 180 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: is that evidently they come into a humans home and 181 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: they steal the child and they replace the baby with 182 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: another fairy, like a changeling fairy. Yeah, who they might 183 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: be a sick fairy who need somebody to take care 184 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: of it, or just you know, I just want to 185 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: take a couple of weeks off the job, so I'm 186 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: just gonna stay here. So does that mean fairies look 187 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: like babies or they can just sort of their shape 188 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: shifters shape shifters, And it never says what they do 189 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: with the baby. And they saw that, yeah, they probably 190 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: just feed him to the pigs or something. But now 191 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: you saw that, you saw that photograph that the good 192 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: professor took, and look, the fairies look like they're about 193 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: the size of gnats. So do you know how many 194 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: thousands of fairies it would take to lift that baby 195 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: out of his crib and cart him off? That's where 196 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: magic I mean. Okay, so here's just a very easy 197 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: accessible example. Is Peter Pan's kind of a fairy, but 198 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: not really, but tinker Ball was a fairy. And the 199 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: whole lore behind Pure Pan, right, is that tinker Bell 200 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: came and found him as an abandoned child and shipped 201 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: him off to Neverland with her, and he stopped growing up, 202 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: just like the Lost Boys, stopped growing up because they 203 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: always come and take them. Right, So you just add 204 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: a little fairy dust and you make that baby think 205 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: happy thoughts, and they're gonna fly away fairy dust. Why 206 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: didn't I think of that? I don't know, Well, I think, 207 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: let's let's they're different. Yeah, and and you know what 208 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: ties directly into that, Joe, when you're talking about you 209 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: know they're too small to do anything. Is the next 210 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: thing that I looked into is what a fairies look like. 211 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: All right, well, we've we've all we all see when 212 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: you look around art of fairies, they're all very diminutive, 213 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: diminutive with a little gossamer dragonfly wings and bitsy girls, 214 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,479 Speaker 1: really beautiful long hair and weird colors. Yeah, that's exactly right. Well, 215 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: the thing is, fairies really weren't shown to have wings 216 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: in any kind of illustration or stories until about the 217 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: last hundred years. Prior to that, going back to the 218 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: Peter Pan thing, they just flew around on their own. 219 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: They could just do it about years ago by whom, 220 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't find out who first started showing 221 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: fairies with wings and why that took off. It's got 222 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: to be some turn of the century illustrator who did 223 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: it in the printed book? You know everybody. He had 224 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: more and more access to books, and so it took off. 225 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: But I couldn't ever pin down who started that. But 226 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe it has to do with the 227 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: invention of the airplane. Think, oh, you know when was 228 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: the airplane invented? Early twentieth century? Okay, well, I guess 229 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: that could kind of be right in the right time frame, 230 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: that would make sense. But you know, the other thing 231 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: is if we think about that typical faery drawing, uh, 232 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: it always says that, like I said before, they're a 233 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: little diminutive things. So tinker mount, we'll say, tinker itty 234 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: bitsy little little flying person. Yeah, this is again according 235 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: to historical legends or lore, the fairy people are of 236 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: the lot that is called the little people. So they're 237 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: actually not an inch or too high. They were more 238 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: between one to three feet tall, which could explain how 239 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: they could easily steal a baby. It's it's like, do 240 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: you remember the movie Labyrinth, and and there was the baby, 241 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: the baby the baby power? Yes, do what find me 242 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: of the babe? That one? Okay, well, if you remember 243 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: all of the little creatures that were in the movie, 244 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: and they were you know, little Jim. Yeah, they were 245 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: all kind of ugly looking, but they were, you know, 246 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger than the baby, maybe a lot 247 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: bigger than the baby, but they were in that range 248 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: according to legend and Lord, that's more of what the 249 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: little people were like, nasty little they're they're on the 250 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: order of elves and goblins and all of those. And 251 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: there's a name for those. It's the elementaries. Yeah, they're 252 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: not elementals, but they are like they are of the 253 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: cast of elementaries. Yeah, elementaries are like what spirits leftover 254 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: from the ancient world. No, elementaries are more of critters 255 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: that do things on earth. So fairies are kind of 256 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: for the earth, and then lepri cons had something different. 257 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: Elves did something for the forests. And there's like nine 258 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: or twelve casts of elementaries and they're mostly kind of 259 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: little are Yeah, they're all the little people. They're all 260 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: these little, diminutive critters that look like people but heightened 261 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: in nature, and so we don't see them unless they 262 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: good or bad reason decided to show themselves to That's why. 263 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, when you go camping, sometimes you get up 264 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: in the warning and your food has been rated yeah, 265 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: those things, because you know, I thought that was raccoons 266 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: or ball They always say it's rac raccoons might be 267 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: elementary elementaries, yea, elementaries. Yeah, yeah, good, all we know 268 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: they're a little human like, uh yeah, well, and I 269 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: think you know, we just hit on the other thing, 270 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: which is again we were talking about in that typical illustration, 271 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: the fairies are beautiful and you know, have perfect skin 272 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: and glowing but really, according to this, they're kind of 273 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: ugly critters and sour pus. The sour pus face is 274 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: what I always think of when I think of of 275 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: the ones from labor At where they're headed. You know, 276 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: it's it's like the evolution of so many things towards 277 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: these Like if you look at angels in the Old Testament, 278 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: they were scary creatures. Now angels are so yeah, and 279 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: now they're wonderful creatures who just want to spread love 280 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: and ferry us throughout the world. Yeah, like the you 281 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: know cherubs versus wait wait hunt, wait wait you lost 282 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I know what a cherub is, right, but they didn't 283 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: really exist until the kind of the Middle Ages. The 284 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: idea of a cherub, okay, and the like really cute 285 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: baby with wings at like the angel cherub archetype r. 286 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Was that somebody? That's just some medieval artists who first 287 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: invented the whole thing? Probably propaganda. Yeah, the next kind 288 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: of vein that I came across when I was doing 289 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: the research on fairies. Yeah, it turns out the fairies 290 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: really love the British. The British love the fairies. Stuff 291 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: in England there is and the food is not very 292 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: good and older. You know, they've got a lot of 293 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: abandon areas, a lot of history for a really long time. Yeah, 294 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of places that you know, like like 295 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: say the Middle East, if you were a fairy, would 296 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: you gotta want to go take out residents and say 297 00:17:53,560 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia forests of England where it's like any all 298 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: the time and nobody's gonna like tromp over you because 299 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: who goes outside there? Yeah, yeah, it's wet outside. Why 300 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: would I go outside? I just to stay in the 301 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: house all day. I'm actually kind of suspised. We don't 302 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: we don't see them around here because we're fairly moisten 303 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: foresty around here. Well it's because you don't believe Joe. Oh, 304 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: well there's that, but nobody you don't know, Yeah, yeah, 305 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: they could be all around. Yeah. Usually when I see 306 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: like rings of rings of mushrooms in the forest, I 307 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: picked them right, Yeah, because that's what most people do. 308 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: That's why it's because we do things like that here, 309 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: so the fairies are like, oh, we can't be here anymore. 310 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I can discover the next environmental causes. We're destroying fairy habitat. 311 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: If that was gonna fly anywhere, it would fly in 312 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: Portland's Yeah, you're absolutely right. I think we're gonna have 313 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: to work on a website and start getting sim publicity. Yeah. 314 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that we want that publicity, but no. 315 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: So evidently the British Isles are overrun with fairies. And 316 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: by that I mean written in Ireland and Scotland, all 317 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: of that area, the entire United Kingdom area, not Ireland. 318 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Ireland also, yes, I'm looping that entire 319 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: area outlying islands also, all of it because according to 320 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: some reports, and these were I believe the report of 321 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: the BBC did this, and good on them for taking 322 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: the time to look into this, but evidently that area 323 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: is covered in what they refer to as good paranormal areas, 324 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: which are run by fairies and ghosts, and I guess 325 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: a good paranormal area is where there's a helpful creature 326 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: that you can't see some one of the one of 327 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: the stories that I read was there was some house 328 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: and there was some road that was really confusing, and 329 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: people would always get lost and they would stop at 330 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: this house and they would knock on the door and 331 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: a friendly old butler would answer the door and they say, Hi, 332 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm lost. I'm trying to get to wherever, and he 333 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: would say, no problem, take this and that and this 334 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: and that and be on your way, and they would go. Well, 335 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: the house was deserted, nobody lived in the house, So 336 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: that was a good paranormal area because it was the 337 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: good entities that were being the butler for these people 338 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: to find their way. Don't Devin's giving me a really 339 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: kind of dirty look. I don't think she believes this story. 340 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah. Sorry. I believe in fairies and I 341 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: believe in ghosts, but that story, for some reason, I 342 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: just don't believe. I have heard stories like that too. 343 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we all know. So the reporter did the 344 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: research here though, They went through twenty five years of 345 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: police reports, so these were things that were filed with 346 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: the police. Yeah, these are all supernatural. Uh, there's a 347 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: huge number of supernatural events. And by huge I mean 348 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty five reports to the police. I'll 349 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: only forty four of which were related to fairies. I 350 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: mean the rest we're all ghosts and which is and 351 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Casper somebody I don't know, but forty four of them 352 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: were fairies. So obviously they like that area that or 353 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: people in that area are prone to reporting quote paranormal activities. So, 354 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens when you wander 355 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: the forest and you start randomly eating mushrooms, you start 356 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: reporting stuff. I mean like everybody, you know, like everybody 357 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: at some point in their life has something happened to 358 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: them and they're like, WHOA, that was super weird. Right, 359 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: Not very many people have that WHOA, that was super 360 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: weird moment and then go, I better call the police 361 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: and follow report. Yeah, maybe it's just that this area, 362 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, But I think the thing is maybe is 363 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: that here we're much more prone to getting in trouble 364 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: for calling the cops. What are considered a name report 365 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't even file. They'd be like Okay, ma'am, okay, 366 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: there a Bobby is like, okay, all report says saw 367 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: fairy that gave him a beer. I think that. I 368 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: think actually, if you called nine one one report the 369 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: fair they send a swat team and maybe, well, let's 370 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: go on to this. This gets more into the what 371 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: are fairies? This next bit that I've come across, which 372 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: is freaking awesome, they're aliens. I think that's freaking awesome, amazing. 373 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: I know, go ahead and say it. I know what 374 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: is the people who look into aliens? Who followed yep, 375 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: I knew, I knew you'd want to talk about you. 376 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: Those aren't people who look into aliens. Those are people 377 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: who look into UFOs but are ancient ancient alien ologists. 378 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, I'm trying to come up with 379 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: a good term that we can use. It's okay, sorry, 380 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: but it would explain a lot, it would. But but 381 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: here's here's how the folks propose that fairies are actually aliens. 382 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: And this is a it's a fuzzy line that they run. 383 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: We've all heard the phrase extraterrestrial, which means that it's 384 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: something not from Earth coming here or not from Earth. 385 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: And then but of this universe. Well, according to this theory, 386 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: the fairies are ultra terrestrials. What is an ultra terrestrial? Yeah, 387 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: that took me a while to kind of wrap my 388 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: head arrectally. I think I'm kind of an ultra terrestrial 389 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: ultrast Okay, here's here's how this runs. As humans, we 390 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: have all done this planet. We've always considered ourselves to 391 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: be the most intelligent and the only intelligent species on 392 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: the planet. Self aware. Yeah, but according to this there's 393 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: another species that evolved here, either before us or alongside us, 394 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: and that species is the ultra terrestrial the lizard people know, 395 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: not the lizard people. Are you sure, because that's no, 396 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. You know, they could 397 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: actually have like evolved before us and actually nudged humanity 398 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: along on its course towards evolution. You sound like an 399 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: ancient alien theorist nation alien upologist. Yeah. Can we not 400 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: have that argument again? Come on, let me, let me, 401 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: let me keep going here. You guys are going to 402 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: just spiral down. The rabbit wasn't really, But um so, 403 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: the ultra terrestrials, this other species, they're more intelligent than 404 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: we are, and they've evidently mastered ability to hide themselves 405 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: from us, at least for the most part. Maybe it's 406 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: accident when we see them, or made they intentionally show themselves. 407 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh. And there is a lot of 408 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: historical writing that references supernatural beings that and I'm quoting here. 409 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Supernatural beings seemingly superior to humans have been reported throughout 410 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: history and in previous eras they were called God's angels, ogres, fairies, brownies, 411 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: little people's demons, and more. Yeah. That, I mean, we 412 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: talked about this every once in a while, particularly with 413 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: our out of place and out of time artifact that 414 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, proof is fairly strong that there was something 415 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: here that was you know, whether it was us just 416 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, forgetting about our history or whatever. It's always 417 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Maybe they made goldback to Tempe. Maybe. 418 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: But here's here's where the fairies specifically come in this 419 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: with this theory is uh. We won't say they're upologists, 420 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: but the people who follow this point out similarities between 421 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: aliens and fairies in kind of all of the general 422 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: lore that we know. Okay, aliens have a little butterfly wings. No, 423 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: not exactly, not exactly, Okay, aliens tend to be the 424 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: cause of lost time, and so the fairies, which again 425 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: this is this is that thing where you go into 426 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: the fairy ring, or people will chase fairies or willow 427 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: of the whisp, willow whisp? Is that the correct phrase? 428 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: I believe the little glowing guys in the forest that 429 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: people will chase that run them to their demise. We're okay, yeah, yeah, um, 430 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: so there's the lost time bit. Aliens are usually described 431 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: as being shorter than us with big, large eyes, and 432 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: fairies tend to be described that way to uh. And 433 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: evidently some aliens use quote unquote power rods. They used 434 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: tasers to incapacitate people, which fairies use their magic ones, 435 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: so that could be the same thing. So according to 436 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: these people, there's all these similarities of why aliens are 437 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: actually fairies and fairies are actually ultraterrestrials and we just 438 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: haven't figured it out. Hoaxes hoaxes exactly right, because hoaxes 439 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: are where we're going next. Alright, So we've talked about 440 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: all the fairies real theories, and I realized I almost 441 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: said that in a dimissive, dismissive tone, which was not 442 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: my intention. I admit that I don't. Please, don't take 443 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: it to me. No, no, your horse heads in my bed. No, 444 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: but no. There have been a slew of hoaxes through 445 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: the years involving fairies, which which really makes me question 446 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: these particular photos by Mr Hyatt. And there's there's two 447 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: hoaxes that I want to bring to the front specifically. 448 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: That was one very famous one there was, and that's 449 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: the first one that we're going to talk about the 450 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: first one I want to talk about is the Coventry fairies, 451 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: which Coventry fairies are Cottingly fairies. Thank you, Joe. I 452 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: don't know where Coventry came from, but it's cotting you 453 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: you're just thinking about England. It's it's yeah, biggy pudding. 454 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: And what's the blood pudding? Blood porridge? Yeah, that one 455 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: which I've never eaten, by the way, it really looks gross. 456 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Actually made of blood? What's it? Made it a food? 457 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: All right? The Coddingly fairies were this is a hoax. Okay, 458 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: we know this is a hoax now, but it was 459 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: a series of five photographs that we were put out 460 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: by two young women is and they started in nineteen 461 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: seventeen and they were cousins and I think the they 462 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: were nine in sixteen when they did their first photos 463 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: and they supposedly using their their parents camera, photographed themselves 464 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: with fairies, and these photos started go making the rounds. 465 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: Eventually none other were found by none other than Sir 466 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: Arthur Conan Doyle. It was it was kind of into 467 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: that whole level spiritualism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, he 468 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of embarrassed himself with that whole things he did. 469 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: And you know what the said part is is that 470 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: he believed him. He wanted to believe him. He sent 471 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: somebody out, they took a look at the fairy photos. 472 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: They went out with the girls in the woods. They 473 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: reported back, yes, Sir, I think these are real. He 474 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: then turns around and he publishes an article that was 475 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: in It was a publication which I can't I can't 476 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: tell if it was a magazine or newspaper, but it 477 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: was called The Strand. And then he followed that with 478 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: a book which he titled The Coming of the Fairies. 479 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: Send a good or a bad thing coming coming to 480 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: kick our ask and take our world away. We don't know, 481 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: but uh, unfortunately, the images were eventually admitted to be fakes. 482 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: That was a long time though. Yeah, no, because I 483 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: don't know how anybody thought they were real. Let me 484 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: let me kind of walking through what's going on here 485 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: before we just let the cat out of the bag. 486 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: So they were paper cut outs from a book called 487 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: the Princess Mary's Gift Book. And these little cutouts were 488 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: about six inches high. And these girls literally just with 489 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: a pair of scissors caught him out of the book 490 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: and then posed with them. And they put them on 491 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: hat pins, like against a tree or in a plant, 492 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: or maybe holding them in their hand. And I guess 493 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: maybe if you're in nineties England it's easier to believe. 494 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: I guess you know. Part of that is the like 495 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: photoshop stuff, right like or if you watch like a 496 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: movie from the seventies, right an action movie, but there's 497 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: all this like special effects stuff, and you're like, wow, 498 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: that's awful. And you talked to somebody maybe Joe will 499 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: remember this, who saw that at the time, and was like, WHOA, 500 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: special effects are awesome because you just that's what you think. 501 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: I think. You don't, you don't know what a fake 502 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: look you And I look at these, of course, and 503 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm an I just say, wow, those are so fake. 504 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: They look so fake. But I can also understand that, 505 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: like you know, faking photos wasn't really a thing at 506 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: the time. People would just kind of and who would 507 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: think that a nine year old and an eleven year 508 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: old girl would fake pictures like this or take something 509 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: that way. And here's the thing, you know, when they 510 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: finally admitted that they faked him, it wasn't ntil the eighties. Yeah, 511 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: it was three when they finally fast up and said 512 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: that they had faked those images. So this whole time 513 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: they were saying, oh, yeah, they were real, but to 514 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: the girl's credit, which I guess, actually it's these ladies 515 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: at this point when they finally admitted that they had 516 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: faked the whole thing, they faked him because they were 517 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: embarrassed because they were doing it for a laugh. They 518 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: were goofing around and suddenly famous Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 519 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: and his people show up and my gosh, you've got 520 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: to show us these fairies, and um, yeah, it was embarrassing. 521 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: We just totally fake that, dude. It just doesn't People 522 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: have really fallen into some really bad situations because you're 523 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: embarrassed to admit I was totally totally fake. That, Yeah, 524 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: I guess. The other thing for me is that, like 525 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: the little fairies are so stylized. You look at them 526 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, they look like they're exactly fashionable 527 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: for the night. The fairies too, you know, they're wearing 528 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: flapper dresses with bobs and like literally look like flappers 529 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: who just happened to have wings and and kind of 530 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: like and there's a there's a white outline around them 531 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: the glow. You know. The other thing is that Princess 532 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: Mary's gift book. I mean maybe maybe it was kind 533 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: of a bomb and not very many people saw it, 534 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: but you would think somebody that would recognize, yeah, exactly, 535 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: this is the thing of the twenties, right versus now, 536 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: Like now somebody would have been like reverse google searching 537 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: that immediately, right, whereas like in the twenties, you'd be 538 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: like wow, maybe you know, like one person might say, oh, 539 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: I think I saw those well, you know, and here's 540 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: the other thing, and this is to maybe give credit 541 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: to these folks for buying into it, is a lot 542 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: of the lore of fairies said that fairies dressed the 543 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: way everybody else in that contemporary time dressed. That's how 544 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: they blend in. That's how they So in the sixteen hundreds, 545 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: they were wearing the green Robin hood hat or whatever 546 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: might be, you know, the big seventeen hundred style dresses 547 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: with the bell shapes. We need to have a serious 548 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: conversation about historical fashion. Yeah, do I look like I 549 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: know fashion? I'm wearing shorts and a T shirt and 550 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: fashion sense also wearing shorts and a T shirt. But 551 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: the point is they would wear clothes of the era 552 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: that they were in. So the fight of help people 553 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: buy into the fashion of the era? Is that matter? 554 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: Devn No, it's And I'm still laughing about these this 555 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Peter pan robe hood hat thing that you're I literally 556 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: have no frame of reference, right, I don't. I don't 557 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: have a favorite. I don't have to. We're talking about fairies. Yeah, 558 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: so anyway, so if we found them around here, they 559 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: could rest like hipsters, tbrs and beards, a little fairy mustache. 560 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: That sounds right. I think I see a good movie. Yeah, 561 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: that's right up there with Shark Nato. Yeah, I'm gonna 562 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: like call Arnold Tomorrow Schorseninger. Yeah, Arnold, I have a 563 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: good movie for you. I scrolled it on the back 564 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: of a napkin, you flush it out and send me 565 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: a million dollars. Yeah, okay, here's the other fake that 566 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: I want to bring up, And this one's actually pretty 567 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: modern and it's pretty bad. Did either of you look 568 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: at the images of this this this particular fake, This 569 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: fake is from Guada, Guadalajara in two thousand even Yes, yes, yes, 570 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: it's okay. So here's here's the story. This is a 571 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: blatant fake, ladies and gentlemen, So I'm just gonna preface 572 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: it right off the bat. But it's a bricklayer who 573 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: claims that he was out picking fruit one day and 574 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: he found a fairy and he caught it, and being 575 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 1: a nice guy, what did he do? He instantly threw 576 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: it into a jar for Malda Hide to preserve its idea. Yeah, yeah, no, 577 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: there's there's that's questionable behavior. But we're gonna leave that alone. 578 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: But here's the whole thing. I mean, most of us, 579 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean obviously don't go out to pick fruit and 580 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: carrying a jar from alde Hyde. You know, I don't 581 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: normally have that with me. No, even if I grabbed 582 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: the ferry and took it home, I don't have any 583 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: formalde Hide at home either. Yeah, okay, So but here's 584 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: the thing. There's a video, there's news footage of this, 585 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: and they show the jar with the fairy in it. 586 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that fairy. He's obviously a toy. It's very 587 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: obviously like a superhero kind of cheap cast toy. I 588 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: don't mean like the flexible arm kind of toy. I 589 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: mean cast solid red and yellow, but really cheap and translucent. 590 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: And it is sitting on the bottom and you can 591 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: tell the wings are just pinned to the back of it, 592 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: and their plastic as well. And people went nuts for it. 593 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: Don't have a sense of here. But the thing about it, 594 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: for all that stuff, like somebody finds a you know, 595 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: finds the version Mary's likeness on a piece of toast, 596 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: and then somebody pays five thousand dollars for it. Yeah, 597 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: and then this stuff really really bad. Yeah, you know. 598 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: I actually, and this is the funny thing. I wanted 599 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: to prove definitively what toy that was, and I spent 600 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: hours on the internet scrolling through toys that would have 601 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: come out at that time. I couldn't find it. Really 602 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: frustrated me. It looked like it would be something from 603 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: the Credibles or the super Friends, not super Friends, but 604 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: the Justice Leagues or something like that. But I couldn't 605 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: find who it was. But it looks oh it looked 606 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: like something from Ben Ten. That's where I bet it was. 607 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: I think it's X Men. Is it an X Men? 608 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Well they'll see. But the body was yellow in the 609 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: arms and were red, which makes me ten. But there's 610 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot of Okay, first of all, let's talk about 611 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, Ben Ten, that we have 612 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: a little a little weird um. But I guess, you know, 613 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: like knockoff X Men toys often have the like weird 614 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: different colors or yeah, they're not right on purpose. Yeah, 615 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: but look literally millions of photographs of toys and couldn't 616 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: find it. Maybe that means it really was a fairy 617 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: plastic fairies actually look like fairies hit from melode Hyde 618 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: and instantly turned to plastic. That's what the toy industry 619 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: is based on. Yeah, but it wasn't necessarily plastic. It 620 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: would probably just Rigor Mortises said in that stuff that 621 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: from out of Haid and killed by that guy. Yeah, man, yeah, 622 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: she was just okay, you know what, I'm willing to 623 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: run with that We're just gonna go with that. It's 624 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: a dead fairy. It's a dead fairy. Everybody, everybody believe. 625 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: Clap your hands if you believe, Clap harder, Clap harder. 626 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: She's dying. She's dead. Do you believe in fairies? I do? 627 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: I do. Somebody will get my references. That's that's a 628 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: that's a Peter Pan. Okay, yeah, I know where are 629 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: we going now? Yeah, so let's uh, let's conclude this. 630 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: Let's get yeah, let's conclude. Let's get back to Hi. 631 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: It's photos. Okay, so we've talked. Are you saying that 632 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: all those bugs, those fairies you photographed were just tiny 633 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: little cardboard cutouts, that's what you're saying. Oh, well, no, 634 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm not actually, uh so here's here's what I did, 635 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: is is I started looking at what Hyatt said, and 636 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: then I started looking at the photos, and then I 637 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: started doing my research because and I'm not the only 638 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: one who's done this research. So I'm not the one 639 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: who came that the only one that's come to this conclusion. 640 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: But let's walk through this. Is that Hyatt claims that 641 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: he has photo photographed many insects, and he says that 642 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: the creatures that he shot. They're not bugs, so of 643 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: course they must be fairies. That makes sense. I can 644 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: see what do you mean. I can see what he's saying, 645 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: but I don't believe in fairies. But I also think 646 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: that he's saying the same thing Joe said at the 647 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: beginning of this show, which is he's anthromorphizing these things. Oh, 648 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm putting these human characteristics on them. Yeah, I just 649 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't totally agree with the assertion they're not bugs. 650 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: You still think they're fairies? No, I don't agree with 651 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: the assertion that they're not buggs. Oh, okay, okay, I'm sorry, 652 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: I misunderstand what you're saying. I got it. We're on 653 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: the same page. That good. Yeah. Yeah, So this guy 654 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: is like, you know, like saying that you know, I've 655 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: photographed the insects and these aren't insects because you're not 656 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: an insect. I know what, I know what insects looks like. 657 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 1: This is not insects. How many millions of different insects 658 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: are there in the world? Gazillions gazillions, which is a 659 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: real number in my head. So, okay, if you take 660 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: a look at the photos from Hyatt and you look 661 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: at the arms and the legs of the fairies as 662 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: he calls them, and you look closely at them, you'll 663 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: notice you'll see where the wings join the body, and 664 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: then you'll see those arms and legs are pointed away 665 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: as if they're in motion, so they're at a they're 666 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: at an angle away from the body. Yeah, all right. Well, 667 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: if you look at flying insects when they're in flight, 668 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: they fly that way because they don't have any tension 669 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: in their legs, so they just let the air current 670 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: push them back, which from behind would make it kind 671 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: of look like a little person. Counterpoint, Ferries would probably 672 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: do the same thing because they're lazy and they don't 673 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: want to hold their arms up. Why yeah, why hold 674 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: your arms up? Why not just go? I would hold 675 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: them out to the side like I was an airplane 676 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: at the same time. I do that when I'm on 677 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: a bicycle all the time. I'm the king of the world. 678 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: I think you would just get tired after a while. 679 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: You're putting a lot of like physical coersion. I will 680 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: buy that point. Um. Now here's the thing though, and 681 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: it looks specifically at mayflies. Do you know what may 682 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: fly is? Yeah, they're little itty bitty guys that cluster 683 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: up in swarms and they kind of annoy the crap 684 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna start to see 685 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities with may flies. Uh. They have 686 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: a head and they have wings that are proportionally correct 687 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: when you apply them to the creatures that are in 688 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: the image. Uh. They also have what are known as 689 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: and I hope I'm saying this right searcy c e 690 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: R C. I maybe right. I'm not gonna kind of 691 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 1: like searchy better about it's a it's a Greek word. 692 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: It's an ancient Greek word, but it's these are what 693 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: are almost the easy way to say it is there 694 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: too little antenna to come out of the back of 695 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: their abdomen. So have you either of you seen silverfish? Yeah, 696 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: and they have those two little antennas that stick out 697 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: the back of Yeah. But that's what that's what cearcy 698 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: are there in silver fish? Did I ever tell you 699 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: about the big silver fish they killed years and years ago? No? 700 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: I feel like there is a story for another time. Yeah, 701 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: it could have been. Come and tell you. Um. So, 702 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: when they're flying around, those things dangling behind could look 703 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: like the legs so I'm I'm going strongly towards the 704 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: fact that these are may fly I when I saw them, 705 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: I immediately thought, oh, water skaters. Oh yeah, they do 706 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 1: kind of look like water skeeters who have the forearms. Yeah, 707 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: but water skeeters don't fly around. Sometimes they do a 708 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: little bit, I think when they're little little ones. Once 709 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: they bolt into adults, I don't think they fly around. 710 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: Do they they have wings? I don't know why they 711 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't because they can skip around in the water. Why 712 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: would I fly? This is way cooler because there's stuff 713 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: in the water. Yeah, that's okay. So here's the other 714 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: thing is if I'm gonna I'm sticking with it. These 715 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: are mayflies. May flies and all those kind of little gnats. 716 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: They tend to swarm up because they actually mate in 717 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: the air. These things have like a day or three lifespan. 718 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: When they're adults, they are they like part of the 719 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: Yard the Art High Club. Wow, Joe, well done. Yes, 720 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: they are part of the Yard High Club. And so 721 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: that's when they they're all swarming around, Like at night 722 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: you'll see them all or in the evening you'll see 723 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: them all swarming around together in a big cloud. In 724 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: your yard. That's what they're They're mating. And I think 725 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: that that's what he got a photo of. Is he 726 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: got to swarm a may flies bunched up and he 727 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: just happened to catch a picture of it and zoomed in. 728 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: Did he did he come across this photo when he 729 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: was like reviewing at home? That's behind this. I have 730 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: not seen anywhere where he says exactly what he was 731 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: photographing when he caught these images, Nor have I seen 732 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: anything that shows the full image. We only get the 733 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: cropped versions that show these little creatures. Maybe he was 734 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: taking pictures of nearby flowers and he looked later a 735 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: little closer at the little small part of the image. Yeah, 736 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: it could be, But personally I assert that they're these 737 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: these clouds of midges or whatever they are, that are 738 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: flying around that we always see in our yard, which, 739 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 1: by the way, I personally find hilarious at my house 740 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: when those little clouds drift over to the chickens and 741 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: the chickens go insane or like picking them out of 742 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: the cloud. But then again, maybe my chickens are just 743 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: murdering fairies chi you know. Yeah, it explains the little 744 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: screams that. I hear my dog goes after a little 745 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: little bugs like that too, So could be, could be. 746 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: Here's here's my one other problem with with this story. 747 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 1: With these images, Hyatt has labeled them the Rossendale Fairies. Okay, 748 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: remember we said they're the Cuttingly Fairies. Were the ones 749 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: that were from the nineteen twenties. Yeah, so it's almost 750 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: as if it's a wink and a nod towards those 751 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: original photos. And he was. He's only like thirty miles 752 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: approximately away from where those photos, those twenties photos were taken, 753 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: So it could very easily be that they were just 754 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: looking at the pictures like, hey, it looks like a 755 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: fair vaguely looks like a fairy. Hey. You know, we 756 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 1: could just like make a joke towards them and call 757 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: it good. Yeah. Well, we'll just keep an eye on 758 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: the interwebs for other than that the near future and 759 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: see if he find it comes and fesss up that 760 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing was a fake. Yeah, you know, 761 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: might take sixty years again before he fesces up. Yeah, 762 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: I knew they were bugs. Hopefully, you know, nobody will 763 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: come and write a story about his fairies. Hopefully, Hopefully, 764 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: no famous author who's the spiritualist will come and Stephen 765 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: King will not go to his property, hopefully not. But 766 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: that's that's what we have on the fairies. Uh. Personally, 767 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: I I don't know about YouTube, but I think the 768 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: photos are bunk. I think they're fake. I don't know, 769 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: not necessarily fake in a sensitive photoshop to anything. Well, 770 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: I don't think they're fairies. Yeah, I think they're just insects. 771 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: I would, I would agree with that. I don't necessarily 772 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: agree with you that fairies are not real, but I 773 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: do agree that this picture definitely the bugs. Okay, well 774 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: that's good. They should look like bugs, all right. Well, oh, 775 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: and before we before we move away from the story, 776 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: I did just want to to throw out a big 777 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: thanks to Mandy, one of our listeners. She she helped 778 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: us with some of the research on this which was 779 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: really great and it was really awesome. So thanks Mandy. 780 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: We appreciate all help. Thanks. Uh. And that that having 781 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: been said, with the end of the story, let's of 782 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: course you can see the photos of the ross and fairies. 783 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: We'll have a photo of it on the website and 784 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: we'll also have some of the links for the story 785 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: and we'll have the episode to listen to there. That website, 786 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: as always, is going to be Thinking Sideways podcast dot com. 787 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: You if you forget to download an episode and you're 788 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: on the go, you can always find us on stitcher. 789 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: Uh so listen to it from any internet connected mobile device. 790 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: Really easy stream right there. We're on Facebook, so you 791 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: can find us and friend us and join the group. 792 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: We've been having some a lot of fun stuff go 793 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: up on Facebook, which is is good now. Of course, 794 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: if you don't want to stream the episode and you 795 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: want to download it for whenever you want it, you 796 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: can go ahead and find us on iTunes. If you 797 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: are on iTunes and you take the time to download 798 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: the episode and you've got a chance, please leave a 799 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: comment and rating. We do appreciate that. And last, but 800 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: not least, we do have the email address. So if 801 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: you have you say I'm a liar and you think 802 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: fairies are real and you want to prove it for 803 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: you are fairy, go ahead and send us an email. 804 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: That email address is Thinking Sideways Podcast at gmail dot com. 805 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: And since I said email, I guess we should talk 806 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: about some emails. Well, the first one I've got came 807 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 1: in from Facebook. Actually and it's from Ash who's from England, 808 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: and he says, Hi, guys, I'm gonna put in end. Girl. 809 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: Just began listening to your podcast during my night shifts. 810 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: What a fantastic shows you guys do, incredibly entertaining and 811 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: some cases I know of and he says the Tom 812 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 1: and Shrewd two cases like the Loop that I found 813 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: completely enthralling. Love your murdering mystery episodes. I'll be on 814 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: the hunt for some cases for suggestions for your show. 815 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: Keep up the awesome work. And this is Ash from England. 816 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: Act By the way, you'll be happy to know that 817 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 1: we've planned lots more murdering mayhem in the future. I 818 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: was just going to mention that, you know, the two 819 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: that he mentioned were my episode. You know you you 820 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: are really popular like me. It's just me. I'm always like, 821 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: maybe they'll like my episode. Though they like Joe, they 822 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: like Devon, they like my episode, they like make references 823 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: to me. Episodes don't suck. It's it's just because you 824 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 1: two are the cool kids. We are were not the 825 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: excitable hipster Do we're back to that? Yeah, I'm never 826 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,439 Speaker 1: gonna live that tone. I think, Well, we've got another 827 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: email that we that we picked out and Joe, you're 828 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: going to read that one. Yeah, okay. Our next email 829 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 1: is from Teresa, and I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. 830 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: It's RAS or something else, you know. Feel free to 831 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: send us an email and direct it. But anyway, she says, 832 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: this is a funny. This is pretty funny email. You 833 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: guys read it, not agree it's funny. So she says, no, 834 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: I have three more episodes and that will be all 835 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: caught up. How will I drown out my coworkers and 836 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: in conversations I would rather listen to u v B seven. 837 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: I found you all researching UVB obsessed and Phil in 838 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: the Tom Tom and shutter is doll chicky step back 839 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: from that ledge, My dog and my favorite creepies, the 840 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: lead Mask homies. We should have called it that, the 841 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: lead Mask calling. Yeah, oh yeah, the old gangs here 842 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: new to me, Boy in the Box and Jane Doe 843 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: wigged me out and are my favorite so far. Okay, 844 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: she's literally except for the chick and the dogs, and 845 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 1: the dogs only mentioned myself. I'm winning on this podcast. Yeah, 846 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: head is getting so bigger. Hey. Yeah, by the way, Teresa, 847 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: um uh, you know go back and get my episodes 848 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: another listeners. Anyway, I have sent us another email. Okay, anyway, 849 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: so thank you, and don't stop. I have a few ideas. Okay, 850 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: we're not gonna we're not gonna give away your ideas. 851 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: Oh and if you ever need a crazy guy that 852 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: thinks JFK was an alien with proof of it, I 853 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: know a guy. I think we all know. I think 854 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: we all know a guy. Yeah. Thanks. Also, I'll just 855 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: mention um, I have listened to UVB like obsessively every 856 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: once in a while. It is great for drowning out 857 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: in a conversations, just listening to our episode or just 858 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: your brain just kind of tones everything out. So does 859 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: somebody actually like replicated on the internet in real time recording? Right? No, 860 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's actual, like the actual feed. Really, it's 861 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a nice background music for a party. Yeah, dude, dude, dude, dude, Yeah, yeah, 862 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: this this sounds awesome. All right. Well, anyway, thanks, thanks 863 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 1: everybody for the email, and yeah, thanks sex, especially Teresa. 864 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: It was a very funny email. Yeah, that was a 865 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: good one. Well, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna 866 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: flit her out of here. So we will talk to 867 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: you next week. Yeah everybody, Hi, guys,