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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to another edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you on a drizzly Wednesday

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Speaker 2: here in Western New York, and the Bills are out

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Speaker 2: on the practice field working their way in between the

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Speaker 2: rain drops. And we heard from offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey

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Speaker 2: prior to practice today. We'll get you some details on

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Speaker 2: that as well as the develop elements at practice. I

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Speaker 2: would say, Steve, as we get closer and closer to Saturday,

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Speaker 2: we've got an interesting development at the quarterback position because

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Speaker 2: Matt Barkley, as we know, is day to day with

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Speaker 2: an elbow injury, not practicing again today going into this

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Speaker 2: final preseason game, Steve, I don't think any of us

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Speaker 2: are expecting to see Josh Allen in any way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form, like maybe a series. I mean, he didn't

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Speaker 2: have a problem playing last week. I thought he performed fine,

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Speaker 2: looked to be in rhythm with his receivers. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that he needs more action. So are you gonna

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Speaker 2: put it on Kyle Allen to go wire to wire?

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Speaker 2: What if he's your backup quarterback? What are you doing there?

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Speaker 3: Once again today we're talking about quarterbacks. I'm stifling a yawn.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna play the whole game. Wow, that big deal.

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Speaker 3: Let him play the whole game. That's what football players do,

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Speaker 3: is what Josh is gonna do in three weeks, I know,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just let him play the whole game. In

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Speaker 3: an ideal world, okay, and something happens, he's knock on wood,

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Speaker 3: gets some hangnail and can't go okay, then you got

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Speaker 3: a problem. But it comes the worst and they hand

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Speaker 3: it off. It's all right, and it's no big deal.

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Speaker 3: Preseason is let him go. I was lose kind of curious,

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Speaker 3: but you're right, Josh ain't seeing the field under any circumstances.

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Speaker 2: I would be very I'd be surprised.

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Speaker 3: Mitch Morris is gonna be taking snaps before before Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen takes snaps in this game.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like the thought of that.

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Speaker 3: That's a nice right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I want to see Mitch drop back.

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Speaker 3: Listen. That's what's gonna happen. It's gonna be hand off, right,

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Speaker 3: hand off left, kneel down. If Josh takes a snap,

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Speaker 3: he's kneeling. At two minutes left in the first quarter,

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Speaker 3: he's kneeling down.

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Speaker 2: So knowing that, that's why I was curious for your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on the fact that you know, Matt Barkley is

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Speaker 2: still dealing with an elbow injury, Kyle Allen is the

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Speaker 2: only option left at quarterback, and seeing one quarterback go

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Speaker 2: wire to wire in a final preseason game is a

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Speaker 2: rarity these days.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I but it's, you know, extenuating circumstances. You've

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Speaker 3: got three guys. You're going into the season with three guys.

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Speaker 3: You've had three guys since the beginning of training camp.

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Speaker 3: It's been the same three guys. You got to be

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Speaker 3: ready for stuff like this. And there's nothing that says

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Speaker 3: Barkley can't go in and just hand off. He's not

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Speaker 3: gonna have to throw it. So yeah, yeah, just get

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Speaker 3: through the game. Get that game really is what this is?

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at this.

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Speaker 3: Point, it just get And I'll say this too. I'll

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Speaker 3: bet you no, I'll bet you. I'm I just think

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Speaker 3: that even the quarterback race for the number two is

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Speaker 3: probably largely decided, and for whichever guy it is Barkley

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Speaker 3: as to which one it is, because I don't want

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Speaker 3: to start that conversation. I'm just saying this is this

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Speaker 3: game has nothing to do with certain positions. It has

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Speaker 3: onto the roster. This is not about the starting eleven

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Speaker 3: on offense, the starting eleven on defense, not even the

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Speaker 3: starting eleven on offense. It's like the starting what fifteen

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Speaker 3: extra receiver, the third receiver, the fourth receiver, the second

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Speaker 3: about them, it's and it's not about the starting eleven.

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Speaker 3: And believe me, it's eleven. Well, it'd be the fifteen

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Speaker 3: not about those guys. It's about the others. So you know,

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Speaker 3: this every year. The preseason gets to a point we

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Speaker 3: now we're like puking because we just want to get

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Speaker 3: The sky's falling. We had Trevor Sickhama on yesterday. We

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Speaker 3: asked him about the offensive line struggles. We've heard about

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Speaker 3: it with the Miami Dolphins, heard about with the Jets,

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Speaker 3: and he goes and you know what he said about

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Speaker 3: the Bills. You remember, he goes, Eh, they'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 3: He was like, unconcerned Bills fans are running around like

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Speaker 3: their hairs on fire. Yeah, he goes, Nah, they'll figure

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Speaker 3: it out. I'm like, what what did you just say?

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at you. What do you just say? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now they'll figure it out, They'll be all right.

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Speaker 2: Among the highlights in terms of the comments that coach

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Speaker 2: he said, as far as the final preseason game is concerned.

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Speaker 2: They're just looking for execution and good decision making from

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Speaker 2: asked specifically about Kyle Allen, who's looking more and more

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Speaker 2: into it, and Dorsey said, I think it's a progressive process.

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Speaker 2: The more time he has to run this offense, the

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Speaker 2: better he'll have a feel for all of it. Makes sense,

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Speaker 2: no surprise there. As for addressing some of the mental errors,

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Speaker 2: pre snap penalties and issues we saw in last week's game,

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Speaker 2: coach Dorsey said, we're putting a premium on practice to

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Speaker 2: push our players to be the best we can be.

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Speaker 2: To do that, we have to be great pre snap

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Speaker 2: and we're working on that. You know, we heard that

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Speaker 2: actions a practice yesterday were running laps. Yeah. I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen that here in about twenty years. Greg Williams is

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Speaker 2: the last guy to do that. Called them opportunity lapse.

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Speaker 3: That is old school man. He also said, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: wait for these guys to come in, these coaches, and

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Speaker 3: you know how it is, sometimes you get the coach speak.

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Speaker 3: He said something really profound. They said said, hey, what

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Speaker 3: game one was actually pretty good. Game two wasn't. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: thanks for that insight.

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Speaker 2: For seeing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least we're not in some alternate form of reality.

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Speaker 3: But that's you know, they are not getting up in

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Speaker 3: And they think because and I here's the thing, and

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Speaker 3: I remember this from being a player. You rarely see

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Speaker 3: like like the Pittsburgh game. That first half of the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh game. I mean we all saw the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Twelve penalty. I mean it was like, seriously, twelve penalties,

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Speaker 2: It was horrible.

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Speaker 3: But as a player and a coach, you're going, huhkay.

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Speaker 3: You come back to work next and you start you're

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Speaker 3: working on it. He's say, all right, here's what we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do this. We're gonna do this. We're not doing

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Speaker 3: As a player. They're Kenny Dorsey and those guys. They're

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Speaker 3: So that's why players and coaches feel better about themselves

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Speaker 3: going forward, because they've got a plan and they're implementing

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Speaker 3: Trevor sickmy the guy on yesterday. He was right. These

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Speaker 2: Well. They can't spend time worrying about things. They have

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Speaker 2: to spend time finding solutions.

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Speaker 3: They can only do they can only go with who

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Speaker 3: we're deep here, so let's give up a little depth

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Speaker 3: how good they're gonna be. They got a tough schedule,

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Speaker 3: no question, but man ohman, everybody else's schedule. One reason

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Speaker 3: They're they're gonna rev I think, and you know, of

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Speaker 3: oh man, I'm excited for the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Coach Dorsey was asked about Spencer Brown, who obviously has

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Speaker 2: faced some criticism from the fan base, who wasn't thrilled

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Speaker 2: with his performance in last week's game, so Ken Dorsey

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Speaker 2: offered this on the Bills starting right tackle. He said,

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Speaker 2: he's progressing in a direction we want him to go.

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Speaker 2: We're coaching up the details and making sure we're hitting

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Speaker 2: on certain things with him. The consistency of those things

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Speaker 2: locks in on those details, he'll be good to go.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a very interesting comment from coach Dorsey.

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Speaker 2: It almost provided an indication of he's got to sweat

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Speaker 2: the details.

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Speaker 3: More, almost like like he's been nonchalanting some stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, I wonder you know, when you've been

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Speaker 2: six seven years of year life and you're athletic to boot,

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Speaker 2: do you get lured into a false sense of security like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm the biggest, longest guy out here. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: have a problem. I'm not saying. In no way am

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Speaker 2: I saying he's shirking responsibilities. But I thought that comment

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Speaker 2: stay on him to sweat the details. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it might be to put myself

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Speaker 3: in a player's position. If you're Spencer Brown and you're

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Speaker 3: better despite what happened in this preseason, he's sitting there

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Speaker 3: He's his average salary has been twenty million on a

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Speaker 3: I would think here's the thing to be in that

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Speaker 3: They did sign Chris Jones do an eighty million dollars deal.

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Speaker 2: But here's the news concerning Chris Jones. We knew all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows exactly because that's tell him why.

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Speaker 2: Because to get an accrude season you need to play,

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Speaker 2: Which includes the Bills.

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Speaker 2: So do you believe him because he's getting fired. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the here's the thing with that. It's like

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's fifty grand a day, is it not?

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Speaker 3: It's fifty grand a day. How much is that? What

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Speaker 3: Man, oh man, I just feel like he the move

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Speaker 3: and so do the Chiefs. Hence the world or championship

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Speaker 3: they just won.

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Speaker 2: From one holdout to another. We mentioned Josh Jacobs. As

436
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Speaker 2: of right now, he is still holding out. We have

437
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Speaker 2: seen some reports floating around out West that he is

438
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Speaker 2: considering a return. It's probably going to be without a

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Speaker 2: new contract. The Raiders have said in no uncertain terms

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Speaker 2: they have no plans to trade Josh Jacobs. So for

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Speaker 2: right now, now the holdout continues. I ultimately expect Jacobs

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Speaker 2: to come back. What you have no other card to

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Speaker 2: play here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sign the deal, come back.

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Speaker 2: Well no, I mean he's under.

446
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Speaker 3: Franchise, so we don't have to sign the franchise, right

447
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Speaker 3: he can sign it whenever he wants to step in,

448
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Speaker 3: like on opening day, so he didn't have to go

449
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Speaker 3: through training camp or all of that stuff. Certainly, you

450
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Speaker 3: need to show up ready to play as ready as

451
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Speaker 3: you can be, same offense as last year, So he's

452
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Speaker 3: got that going for him. But nevertheless, yeah, that's that's

453
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Speaker 3: a bet to me. That's a better situation, Josh Jacobs,

454
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Speaker 3: because at least you're getting top dollar money for the year,

455
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Yeah, you're getting the tag.

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Speaker 3: You're getting paid as much as everybody else at your position.

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Speaker 2: So he'll probably be there for Week one.

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Speaker 3: I mean we are seen the last I mean this

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Speaker 3: is the running backs, the first devalued position finger quotes.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what the next one's going to be, because

461
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Speaker 3: there will be another one because the stars get paid

462
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Speaker 3: and everybody else got to.

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Speaker 2: Make de middle linebacker. I'm kind of thinking that might

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Speaker 2: go that way. Yeah, Eagles and Colts, they had one

465
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Speaker 2: joint practice. They were scheduled for a few but after

466
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Speaker 2: it ended in a brawl that was started by Jason

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Speaker 2: Kelsey who blindsided linebacker Zay R. Franklin. They're leading tackler

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Speaker 2: from a year ago. Both sidelines spilled onto the field

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Speaker 2: and there was a melee, and the Eagles and Colts said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's forget the last two practices we were gonna have together.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna all practice on our own. This is

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Speaker 2: not the first time this has happened this summer. There

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Speaker 2: have been some other severe skirmishes during joint practices. There

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Speaker 2: have also been some severe injuries during joint practices, and

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Speaker 2: there are reports out there that have indicated that a

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Speaker 2: lot of these clubs now are rethinking the joint practice idea. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you like going against another team and replicating something closer

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Speaker 2: to real football. But the cost this summer anyway for

479
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Speaker 2: some teams has been pretty high, and there have been

480
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Speaker 2: some idiots out there that get too ratcheted up and

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Speaker 2: can't keep a cool head and go off the deep

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Speaker 2: end and start a major issue.

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Speaker 3: What what happens in the mindset of these players is

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Speaker 3: that these joint practices take a big leap in their importance.

485
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Speaker 3: They think, Wow, they're really gonna this. These reps are

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Speaker 3: going to count more than the two hundred reps I've

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Speaker 3: already done. This is like a preseason game, right, I

488
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Speaker 3: gotta I gotta play. And then what happens is somebody

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Speaker 3: has a good rep against them and they look bad

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Speaker 3: and they get frustrated and they they start fighting, or

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Speaker 3: they you know, start accusing the other guy cheating, or

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Speaker 3: they make it look like he's trying to you know, all

493
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Speaker 3: that stuff, and they.

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Speaker 2: Are they blindside, they blindside.

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Speaker 3: Right, or somebody hit gets hit. Is what happened in

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Speaker 3: the Colts Philly game. One of the players dinged one

497
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Speaker 3: of the guys a little bit late at the whistle,

498
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Speaker 3: and then an offensive linement comes in cleans up, you know,

499
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman Kelsey comes in and cleans the guy up

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Speaker 3: way after the play and then you know everything everything

501
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Speaker 3: breaks down from there. But that's what happens. These guys

502
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Speaker 3: get frustrated or they get embarrassed on a rep and

503
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Speaker 3: they think their whole career is going to go down

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Speaker 3: the tubes after that one rep, so they start fighting,

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Speaker 3: and man, oh man, as it goes south in a hurry.

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Speaker 2: It does. So that is around the NFL, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the

508
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Let's get to our topic of discussion today,

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Speaker 2: which deals with the Bills Wide Receiving Corps and the

510
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Speaker 2: new additions to it. As we've mentioned before, the only

511
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Speaker 2: holdovers from last year's roster are Digs Davis and Khalil Shakir.

512
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Speaker 2: Everybody else is new in that room as far as

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Speaker 2: making the roster is concerned. So which new wide receiver

514
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Speaker 2: has impressed you the most through the course of training

515
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Speaker 2: camp and the preseason. You let us know at aightoh

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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty then number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: There's a There are plenty to choose from. Some have

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Speaker 2: impressed more than others. But who is your new wide

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Speaker 2: receiver that is firmly on your radar and impressed you

521
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Speaker 2: a ton through the course of training camp in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: Got open lines for you at ADO three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty or you can hit us up on the tweet

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Speaker 2: sheet at one Bill's Live. We mentioned him already once.

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Speaker 2: Surefield's been pretty damn impressive as a new addition through

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Speaker 2: the course of the spring and training camp and the preseason.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's an odds on favorite in this debate.

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Speaker 2: I mean with what he's been able to do. My gosh,

529
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Speaker 2: like talk about an upgrade, Yeah, I mean, I realized

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Speaker 2: we got to get to real games. But the upgrade

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Speaker 2: looks for real.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you and I have noticed it since the beginning.

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Speaker 3: This is a tough room, this wide receiver room. It's

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Speaker 3: a tough room. And I'm gonna be really interested to

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Speaker 3: see what happens with all of these guys down the list.

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Speaker 2: When you say tough room, you mean in terms of

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Speaker 2: choosing who's gonna make the fifty three.

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Speaker 3: Tough room to stand out in. I think there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a good bunch of these thirteen wide receivers. They've

540
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Speaker 3: had in training camp. There's a good bunch of chance

541
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Speaker 3: that a bunch of them can play in this league.

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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm interested to see how it shakes out.

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Speaker 2: We will take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: your phone calls at eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty some open

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Speaker 2: lines for you. Which new wide receiver on the Bills

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Speaker 2: roster has impressed you the most through camp and the preseason.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls when we return here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Coalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

551
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Speaker 2: with you, and we're discussing the wide receivers on the

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Speaker 2: roster who are new to the team. We want to

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Speaker 2: know which one has impressed you the most through the

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Speaker 2: course of the summer and the preseason. Got open phone

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Speaker 2: lines for you at eight oh three five point fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the

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Speaker 2: number to get on board or hit us up on

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet at One Bill's Live. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: the phones, though, and waiting for us, there is Cassidy

560
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Speaker 2: in Batavia. What do you got for his Cassidy.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Chris A Steve, I'm gonna say Trent Shirfield, I

562
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Speaker 6: mean that CATCHI had last week where he went up

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Speaker 6: and I was able to come down with it with contacts,

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Speaker 6: and then I know he brings to the table blocking

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Speaker 6: and that was something we messed last year after Jake

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Speaker 6: Kumeroll got hurt. And I think he's going to be

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Speaker 6: a pretty solid wide receiver three at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like those thoughts. I would say that the

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Speaker 2: size that he brings to this lot is going to

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Speaker 2: be an interesting dimension because between him and presumably Dalton

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Speaker 2: Kincaid on the inside, those are two pretty big targets

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Speaker 2: for Josh to take advantage of it. I'm not indicating

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Speaker 2: that Sherfield is going to line up in there all

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Speaker 2: the time, because they've moved him around an awful lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even Dorsey said today, no matter where we've

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Speaker 2: moved him on the field, he has not disappointed. He

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Speaker 2: has come through in every opportunity he's been afforded.

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Speaker 1: The aspect of Surefield that I've been most you know,

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Speaker 1: grabbed by, is the fact that he has played every

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Speaker 1: single spot in the offense, all of it.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be able to be plugged in anywhere

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Speaker 3: and everywhere, X, y z H, all of it. He's

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Speaker 3: so that to me means that guy's going to see

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Speaker 3: a lot of snaps because they'll plug him in in

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Speaker 3: order to get a matchup they want with another guy

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Speaker 3: or himself. So his presence on the team on the

587
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: field is gonna and his ability to be moved from

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Speaker 3: one spot to the other gives the offense a flexibility

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Speaker 3: to put Steph Diggs or Kinkaid or James Cook or

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Speaker 3: whoever in a spot where they know the defense is

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Speaker 3: gonna match up with him because and you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, So Surefield and his ability to play everywhere

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Speaker 3: lets the Bills dictate where the defense is going to

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Speaker 3: match up with their offense, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So it's a chess kind of match there.

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Speaker 2: But his versatility favorable match.

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Speaker 3: It turns him into the piece that can I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying he's target one, but his presence and be able

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Speaker 3: to move can give you a target one wherever you want,

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Speaker 3: Like if you want King Kid against a certain guy,

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Speaker 3: a guy like Sherfield can be plugged into different spots

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Speaker 3: to make sure you get that guy on Kinkaid or

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Speaker 3: get that other guy over here on cook guys like

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Speaker 3: that or that's why he's there. And that's what has

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Speaker 3: grabbed me about the rhetoric surrounding Sherfield. Their willingness and

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Speaker 3: their desire to put him everywhere in the offense says

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Speaker 3: a lot about his his intellect, but also about his

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Speaker 3: skill sets. So yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Barb in Holland. Next. What do you

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Speaker 2: got for us, Barb? You're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 7: Hey, how you guys doing today?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 8: You're looking good.

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to say since day one when I

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Speaker 7: heard Trent.

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Speaker 5: Sherfield got picked up.

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Speaker 7: I heard him on TV. What a grace about him,

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Speaker 7: just a great personality. But I kept telling everybody I

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Speaker 7: heard Miami really rebottling because their staff let him go

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Speaker 7: because they loved what he was doing and how good

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Speaker 7: he was. And just seeing that now he is a

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Speaker 7: great player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point, Barb. Some might forget that.

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Speaker 2: When the Bills first signed him, Tyreek Hill was tweeting

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Speaker 2: his frustration out to the public and general cyberspace. He

627
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Speaker 2: was really disappointed that the Dolphins lost him number one

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Speaker 2: and then made a division rival better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. You get better, they get worse.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a win win.

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Speaker 2: That's not nothing.

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Speaker 3: That's a win win. It used to back in the

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Speaker 3: day when teams used to think like this. I remember

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Speaker 3: Tom Cofflin when he was in Jacksonville said his philosophy

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Speaker 3: and one of the things that got him hired as

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Speaker 3: the head coach was his philosophy of listen, all as

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Speaker 3: many free agent acquisitions as we can afford and get,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna go out and get. Let's get them

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Speaker 3: from our division rivals because it'll make us better and

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Speaker 3: it'll make them worse. So don't let them sign back

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Speaker 3: with their other team. And I don't think you can

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Speaker 3: take it too far down that road before it goes crazy.

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Speaker 3: But Trent Sherfield is exactly in that ilk. There's no

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Speaker 3: question he was a good player for the Dolphins, and

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Speaker 3: we've said it when we signed him. Hard to believe

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Speaker 3: a guy could carve out a niche for himself in

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Speaker 3: that often, as good as it was for a stretch

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Speaker 3: of five or six games last year, as good as

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Speaker 3: they were with Waddle and Tyreek Hill, in Sherfield etched

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Speaker 3: out some touches where you would think it would be

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Speaker 3: hard pressed to find room for him. He's carved out

652
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: a niche for himself on a really good offense. So

653
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: doing that here in Buffalo seems even better and make

654
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: you better in here in Buffalo having a guy like that,

655
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Speaker 3: and then of course Miami, now they got to find

656
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: somebody else to do that. That's yeah, and it's a

657
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: good call.

658
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Barb said, you know, she heard him talk

659
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Speaker 2: on TV. We had him on this show right after

660
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: he signed in the spring, so that might be very

661
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: well where Barb saw him, because I don't think he's

662
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: doing regular TV appearances, so you probably saw him right

663
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: on this show, Barb. And yes, he was very self effacing,

664
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: god fearing man and really looking forward to this opportunity,

665
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: and to this point he's maybe the most of it.

666
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: So onward and upward with Trent Sherfield, let's go to

667
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: Brian in Wars next. What do you got for us? Brian?

668
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 9: Hey, we we got a up of the lineman named

669
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 9: Connor McGovern from Free Agency, and I was just wondering

670
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 9: what you guys think his role will be, and do

671
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 9: you guys think they'll he'll start this year.

672
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: I think he will start. He's been at left guard

673
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: and a fixture there since he got here. And if

674
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: you roll in the fact that he signed the biggest

675
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: free agent contract for the Bills this offseason in terms

676
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: of total dollar amount three years, twenty two million, you're

677
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: not bringing a guy in for that money to not start,

678
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: so fully expect him to be your starting left guard.

679
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: And he's haid he's done well here in the summer

680
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: in my estimation, so I think he will be an

681
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: upgrade for that position, which really didn't get what they

682
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: hoped they could get from an older veteran in Roger

683
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: Staffold last year. I think he kind of he was

684
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: on the decline to be frank. And now you've got

685
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: a young player in his fourth season who's on the

686
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: ascent and has played well in the three years that

687
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: he's lined up and played for the Cowboys. So to me,

688
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: you're better at that spot with him in the lineup.

689
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, Brian, I don't know if you

690
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: have been listening to show. Connor McGovern's is absolutely gonna start.

691
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: He's absolutely an upgrade over Roger Saffle. Where Roger Saffle

692
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: was in his career a year ago and he's been

693
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: a fixture at left guard since they signed him. And

694
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: like Brownie said, he signed the biggest contract the Bills

695
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: gave out this year in free agency, so they had

696
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: a plan for him right from the jump, and he's

697
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: lived up to it so far.

698
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, though, getting back to the receiver conversation,

699
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: the one guy that impressed me and I thought took

700
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: a noticeable step forward then from what we saw from

701
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: him on the practice squad last year is Keshawn Johnson

702
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: six one two one pound receiver. Didn't get a lot

703
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: of run last week against Pittsburgh, but through the last

704
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: week of training camp and into the first preseason game,

705
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: I thought he performed really, really well and I thought

706
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: he took his game a notch or two up from

707
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: where it was last year. And I think he also

708
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: has been utilized on special teams, which I think is important,

709
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: especially for a guy who's, you know, going to be

710
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: number five or six on the receiver roster. So he's

711
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: a guy that has impressed me. And then we had

712
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: the flavor of the week last week who's been impressive

713
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: at times. And Andy Isabella, do you have anybody else.

714
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: I know you've mentioned Shavers a couple of times you

715
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: kind of like him.

716
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: I like Shavers mostly. I like Shavers because he's six

717
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: four to two eleven. He's a he's an old rookie,

718
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 3: if you want to put it that way. He's twenty

719
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: four years old, but he's a rookie out of San

720
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: Diego State. I I like the way he's put together.

721
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: I like his attitude when I watch him on the field.

722
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: He's got a little grit and he's you know, he's

723
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: not nothing's too big for him, it seems to me.

724
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: But like I said, you go down this list and

725
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: you've got Keyshawn Johnson and Tyrell Shavers, You've got all

726
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: he these guys that are really good players, and they're big,

727
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 3: you know. Even Brian Thompson sixt' to one buck ninety

728
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: five is another twenty four year old rookie. These guys,

729
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: these twenty four year old rookies I'm talking about, are

730
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: guys who've been out of college for a year or

731
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: so but haven't been on a roster yet, so they're

732
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: still considered rookies. But they've got some you know, lap

733
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: around the NFL once they've been in some camps and

734
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: some practice squads, so it's not foreign territory to them.

735
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: And you can tell when you see him. It's just

736
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: they're just grinders, you know what I mean. They're they're

737
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: they're making they're trying to make it, and it's it

738
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: gives them a little edge that I love seeing in

739
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: these young players and you don't see it all the time,

740
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: and guys that are fresh out of college in the draft,

741
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of cool

742
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: to see these guys like that.

743
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob in Lockport next.

744
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

745
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Bob? Hold on, let me pull you up here. What

746
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: do you got for his? Bob? You're all one Bill's life?

747
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 8: Sure?

748
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: Well, my corker and I were wondering if you guys

749
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 5: knew the feasibility.

750
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Speaker 2: Uh oh, Bob, did we lose you?

751
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 5: You look at as ah as an Opuwoa hold on?

752
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: You gotta say it again?

753
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: Broke up halfway through your sins.

754
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, my co worker and I were just wondering if

755
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 5: if you guys knew the feasibility of getting Chad Kelly

756
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 5: and for a look, I know he's playing in the CFL.

757
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 5: Uh would that be something that we could look at.

758
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: Maybe here for QB two.

759
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: Uh, Chad is under no, as long as you're in

760
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: a contract in the CFL.

761
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: You can't jump.

762
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 3: You can't jump.

763
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a rule that's in place between the two leagues.

764
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: It's like a gentleman's agreement, but it is on paper.

765
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: You know, if you're playing up there, you can't jump

766
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: down here. Because if that happened.

767
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: And he's on the road to a second grade Cup

768
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: maybe yeah, yeah, he's on a collision course with another

769
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: great Cup final. So uh. I also, I don't know

770
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: if you want to pull a plug on that.

771
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think if there was a real concern

772
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: about playing Kyle Allen wired a wire on Saturday, they

773
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: would have already added a quarterback because you're pretty late

774
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: in the game now, right to do that just to

775
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: have somebody help get you through a game. Not that

776
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: the Bills haven't done that in the past. Remember Matt

777
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: Lionard flew in here on a red eye, got like

778
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: a day of practice, and then had to play in

779
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: a preseason game. There have been other guys that have

780
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: had to do that. Jordan Palmer sim came in here. Yeah,

781
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: Matt Sims. Matt Sims came in here on a flyer

782
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: and handed off and through three kinds of passes to

783
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: get through a preseason game. So it's not like it

784
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: hasn't been done before. But I think it would have

785
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: already been done, you know now that we're already at Wednesday,

786
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know how stranger things have happened.

787
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: I don't think, Yeah, they're not worried about getting through

788
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 3: a preseason game with Kyle Allen, Matt Barkley and Josh Allen.

789
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: They can They'll get those guys through the game. Yeah, So,

790
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: and I get it you want to upgrade that spot.

791
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: And certainly Chad Chad's got a live arm. I know that,

792
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: and he works hard at it. But right now, if

793
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: he would have been I don't know what his contract

794
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: is like in the CFL, they would have probably inquired

795
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: way before this if they were interested in grabbing him.

796
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: I think that's a and I get it. It's a

797
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: tough ask for a kid like Chad to come in

798
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: play in Buffalo, having grown up here and stuff, and

799
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: he might be It sounds all fun and games, but man,

800
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: oh man, that's a that's a lot of fire under

801
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: your feet.

802
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 2: You know absolutely, you know what I mean. That's yeah.

803
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Let's take a break here. When we come back, more

804
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: of your phone calls Stephen West, Seneca, Dennis, and Buffalo.

805
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Hang tight. We'll get to you when we return. Which

806
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: new receiver to the roster has impressed you the most

807
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: this summer and in the preseason? Eight oh three, oh five,

808
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: fifty your phone calls next year on one bill, It's live,

809
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: Stay tuned. The Buffalo Sabers will honor the life and

810
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: career a former play by play announcer Rick Jennerator on Sunday,

811
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812
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813
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815
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816
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817
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: as well as the team's official social platforms. As part

818
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: of the special programming, alumni in attendance will share stories

819
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: of the Sabers legendary broadcaster who passed away August seventeenth

820
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: at the age of eighty one. Pretty Cool deal going

821
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: on at Key Bank Center on Sunday. So if you

822
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: can make it out there and you want to be

823
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: a part of it, by all means, show up. Maybe

824
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: hear some cool stories about Rick that you hadn't heard before.

825
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: We do have to get back to the phone calls

826
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: where we are checking in with you to find out

827
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: which new receiver to the Bills roster has impressed you

828
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: the most. And we go to Dennis in Buffalo next.

829
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 2: What do you have for ust? Dennis?

830
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 10: Well, the untalked about scenario, what happens if Knox gets

831
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 10: hurt for it from Kintay gets hurt, Who's going to

832
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 10: step up to be his third tight end? I know

833
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 10: we have an incumbent tight end, but I think there's

834
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 10: a player on the roster. His name is Seinfelder Seinberg, Yeah, Surnberger.

835
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 10: Seven touchdowns, he's fast, he's big, and you know he's

836
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 10: played good. The last game after catch he got yards.

837
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 10: So I'm wondering if the Bills are considering keeping him. He's,

838
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 10: you know, not really known, but he had a career

839
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 10: showing at the UFSL and he catches the ball after

840
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 10: pass he runs, So I'm just saying, oh, I think

841
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 10: they U should pet the Bill Brass to consider keep

842
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 10: him on the roster.

843
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, fair enough, Dennis, thanks for the phone call.

844
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: I will tell you with respect to Jay Sternberger, Yeah,

845
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: you're right. He did have that nice catch and run

846
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: after against the Steelers late in the game last Saturday.

847
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: You're right. He does come from the Spring League, had

848
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: seven touchdown receptions which earned him the opportunity to be

849
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: here in the first place. But he has competition at

850
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: that spot. Quentin Morris, I would say right now, is

851
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: the third tight end on this roster behind Knox and Kincaid.

852
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: And this is his third season on this roster. He

853
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: knows the offense and he plays on special teams. So

854
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: this is a guy that I think is in pretty

855
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: good shape to be the third tight end on this roster.

856
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: And then there's even another guy, Joel Wilson, an undrafted

857
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: rookie out of Western Michigan, who I think some might

858
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: see as being even ahead of Sternberger. So Irberger's got

859
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: an uphill climb here. Not to say it can't happen,

860
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: but I think it's going to be tough for him

861
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: to make the fifty three. Now, could he be here

862
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. Sure, I think that's a possible

863
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 2: opportunity for him going forward, but it's a tough roster

864
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: to crack at that spot with a top draft choice

865
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Speaker 2: and two guys that have each been here three years

866
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: or more.

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Speaker 3: I think Sternberger's best hope is to make sure they

868
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: have keep four tight ends instead of three. That gives

869
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: him a chance. I'm not saying he can't be the

870
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: third tight end, but if they're going to go some

871
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: twelve personnel, which is you know, significant, it seems like

872
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: they will. They're gonna need four guys because if somebody

873
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: goes down you only got three, then you have no bat,

874
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: you have no plan after that. You got to have

875
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: a backup to both spots. That's what I would see

876
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: as his greatest chance. Yeah, and I think it's pretty likely,

877
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: well I think it's pretty likely they go four tight ends,

878
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: and just because the way the league is going, you

879
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I think that's where they're gonna head.

880
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: And I think they'll go six wides, four tight ends,

881
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 3: ten oh linemen, three backs. You know, we'll see. I

882
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: don't know that it's a lot, it's a lot. You're

883
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: starting to get into some really crunching some numbers. But

884
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 3: that's where you're gonna be. Yeah, it's gonna be tricky,

885
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: but that's seven guys at tight end, running back, nine

886
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: offensive linemen. That's sixteen.

887
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: On games. Yeah, and then I don't know why, but

888
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 2: I think the Bills are going heavy on both lines,

889
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 2: which can compromise a position like tight end from carrying

890
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: four to just three.

891
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 3: Well, the running backs will take three.

892
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 2: You have Regigillium White kind of a wild card in there.

893
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, out wide out six.

894
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: I mean Regigillium just side a contract extension last offense

895
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: last year at this time.

896
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: See, it's it's you're getting down to you know, you're

897
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: getting down to the to the nitty gritties of one

898
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 3: or two roster spots can make a difference for guys.

899
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: And that's that's where Sternberger is though there's no doubt

900
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: he's he's on the bubble. But I think he's got

901
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: a chance. He had to catch and then the second

902
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: guy that hit him in against the Colts cough the

903
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: ball up. So he's made some nice catches he got

904
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: he got a good shot that coughed the ball up,

905
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: and he thinks, ah, that's too bad. But he did

906
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 3: guy's open and he's making catches when he gets the chance, so.

907
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: And had some production.

908
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: He's got some production. So even in this training camp,

909
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: he's been pretty good and consistent. So I you're right.

910
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: I think it's a It's an interesting question because if

911
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 3: they do have a lot of offensive sets where they've

912
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: got two tight ends on the field, you got to

913
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: have two guys on the bench that are ready to

914
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: win for both those guys, one for each of those guys.

915
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: That means four guys on game day.

916
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you, uh, unless you carry a couple on

917
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: the practice squad to kind of head your bets. That's

918
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: the other option, and then you elevate somebody in the

919
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: event of an injury. We have to take a break

920
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Speaker 2: here and when we return, we're going to be joined

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Speaker 2: by one Will Brinson. The man has been putting together

922
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Speaker 2: some season predictions and he's also put together his NFL

923
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks by Tier CBS Sports senior writer Will Brinson. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next here on One Bill's Live presented by Coil

925
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Speaker 2: Out of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Our number two here on a Wednesday Chris Brown, Steve

928
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: Tasker with you and pleased to be joined now by

929
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: the senior writer from CBS Sports, Will Princeton joining us

930
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: here on the show. Got a lot of season predictions

931
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Speaker 2: coming your way on cbssports dot com, so we figured

932
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: we'd highlight some of those with Will, who's kind enough

933
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Speaker 2: to join us? Will?

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Speaker 4: How you doing doing awesome?

935
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Speaker 3: Guys?

936
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 11: We're uh when I mean we put two weeks in

937
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 11: a day away from actual NFL football feels feels pretty

938
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 11: good about a week and a day away from NC State,

939
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 11: going up to Yukon and ruining my year on a Thursday.

940
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 4: Night, But sure, why not otherwise? Do it? Awesome?

941
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 8: Though?

942
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: Football Football's apot.

943
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: Us, and it's the time of season now where we

944
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: start to get a look at these teams. They are

945
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 3: starting to come together, dual practices, preseason games, you come out,

946
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 3: and of course with your preseason quarterback rankings, and I

947
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: see it too. Pat Mahomes is the guy that everybody

948
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: you know, you got to give him the number one

949
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: spot because he's been there and he's done it. He

950
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 3: won the World Championship six months or eight months ago,

951
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: whatever it was, and then he put Joe Burrow and

952
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: Josh Allen right there with him in that top tier

953
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: quarterbacks give us a little rundown as to obviously what

954
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 3: they mean to their teams kind of and everybody's kind

955
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: of total consciousness goes into this. But what's your analysis

956
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: put you in? And why are these guys separate from

957
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: the guys who were just below them?

958
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 11: Yeah, and so I think like for these quarterbacks heres

959
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 11: when I did these, they they caused it a little

960
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 11: bit of a stir, mostly because Kyler Murray apparently read

961
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 11: them and got really mad that he was in Tier six,

962
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 11: which in a vacuum sure I would get. But Tier

963
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 11: six was I have no clue, man, And it was

964
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 11: one of those where we don't know if Kyler's gonna

965
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 11: play or not. Right, So these are not necessarily like

966
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 11: Tier one, you know, Tier one. Tier one is the

967
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 11: big three and it's Alan, Mahomes, and Burrow. And one

968
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 11: of the biggest things people got mad about was why

969
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 11: didn't Mahomes have his own tier?

970
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 4: I think Alan and Burrow are there with him. I

971
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: think you know you uh.

972
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 11: There's a great piece from Kevin Clark, my pal over

973
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Speaker 11: at the Ringer dot Com about Burrow's maturation and sort

974
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 11: of how and you see it with Alan, with Josh

975
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 11: and and with Patrick Mahomes, who is like, you know,

976
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 11: these these two high safeties these guys are taking underneath,

977
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 11: they're sort of learning to be to play quarterback more

978
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 11: than to play gunslinger for the For these three guys

979
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 11: specifically though in that first tier. To me, it's like

980
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 11: if I mean, everybody goes in the season saying we

981
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 11: can win the super Bowl.

982
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: But like I think with Burrow, Allan and Mahomes, anything.

983
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 11: Shy of winning the super Bowl would qualify as a disappointment.

984
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 11: Like if the Bills go to the super Bowl, great,

985
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 11: but if they don't win the super Bowl with with

986
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 11: this quarterback, this guy and this roster, it's a disappointment.

987
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 11: Now that's a good thing, right, Like, I mean, you

988
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 11: guys are up there. There was a big stretch where

989
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 11: the idea of the playoffs would have been a successful season.

990
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 11: I think that's what not to go off on a

991
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 11: tangent here, But like the idea that people are all

992
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 11: hot and bothered about Sean.

993
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: McDermot and Brandon Bean, it's so stupid to me, Like if.

994
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 11: You look at these guys, the record that they put

995
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 11: together last five years.

996
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 4: What are these people looking at? What do they expect?

997
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 4: The Bills have been awesome over an extended period of time.

998
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 11: They have a massive super Bowl window, and I get

999
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 11: that everybody get a little flustered when they don't win it,

1000
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 11: but that's sort it goes back to the sort of

1001
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 11: the crux of this tier is if you don't win

1002
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 11: the super Bowl, the seasons of disappointment, that's a good thing,

1003
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 11: not a bad thing.

1004
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: And the Bills one of only two teams with at

1005
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: least ten victories each of the last three seasons. The

1006
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: other teams the Chiefs. And speaking of that, you just recently,

1007
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: just hours ago, put out your projected win totals for

1008
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 2: the AFC East, So let's dive into that.

1009
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 11: Wrote it just for you, guys, just for you.

1010
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: You want to help the guest appearance. I'm all for it,

1011
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: So I mean, look absolutely, and and you know you're

1012
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 2: bullish on the Bills for partly for reasons you've already stated,

1013
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: but getting I mean for the people that love to,

1014
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: you know, put a little money down, they're not getting

1015
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: good return here to bet on the Bills. So I

1016
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: don't know what the answer is there. If you like

1017
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: the Bills because you're gonna have to put a lot

1018
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: down to get anything back.

1019
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 11: Yeah, so the Bills are now and I was trying

1020
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 11: to think of that this morning when I was actually

1021
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 11: I was, it really was.

1022
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 4: It's just a nice coincidence.

1023
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 11: And I popping all with tell that it was on

1024
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 11: the calendar, but the AFC North and South will be

1025
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 11: up tomorrow. But I was sort of I was thinking

1026
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 11: about it. I swear it must have been an eleven

1027
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 11: and a half maybe, and it was like normal juice,

1028
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 11: and then it came back down sort of throughout this offseason,

1029
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 11: which is again like you guys are up there, you

1030
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 11: know better.

1031
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 4: Than I do. But like the whole off season where

1032
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 4: it's like.

1033
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 11: Oh, whoa is Buffalo, it has felt like a bit

1034
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 11: too much of me, And honestly, like this is why

1035
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 11: I like the Bills, not just to go over the

1036
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 11: winter of ten and a half. I think, if if

1037
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 11: anybod but he was out there wanting to make a

1038
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 11: specific move on that, what I would do is go

1039
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 11: look at the Bills to win the division, their plus

1040
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 11: money to win the division. They're the best team of

1041
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 11: the division. I get that Aaron Rodgers is in town.

1042
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 11: I think It's a great thing for the Bills that

1043
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers came to the Jets, not because they have

1044
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 11: to play him twice, but there has been a significant

1045
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 11: focus on Aaron Rodgers this offseason and the Jets. And like,

1046
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 11: I mean, look, Aaron Rodgers Hall of Famer, no doubt

1047
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 11: about it. A little bit too, a little bit of

1048
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 11: val doth protest a bit too much on hard knocks

1049
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 11: with his team friendly attitude and leadership ways. And I'm

1050
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 11: you know, great guy, great player. I just it just

1051
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 11: feels like the Jets are soaking up every ounce of

1052
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 11: this offseason championship and it is the perfect time to

1053
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 11: buy low on the Bills metaphorically or literally, depending on

1054
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 11: how you want to operate.

1055
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Speaker 4: And I guess which state you're operating in.

1056
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Speaker 3: Dany Interesting too, because you bring up the fact that

1057
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: New York Jets have gotten a lot of attention they

1058
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: signed it, but even before and after the Aaron Rodgers acquisition,

1059
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: that didn't change their win total, right, I mean was

1060
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: that because people anticipated Aaron Rodgers was going to be

1061
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 3: a Jet anyway, so they set the line as if

1062
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: he was going to be a part of the team. Uh,

1063
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of that going on, but still

1064
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: at nine and a half wins, that does not that

1065
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: does not shout, you know, hype train to me.

1066
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Speaker 11: Yeah, Stee, So I think like the really interesting and

1067
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 11: you're right, So what happened was when the and it

1068
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 11: sort of got to the point where in terms of

1069
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 11: musical chairs, where the it was like if you're the.

1070
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 4: Jets, you got the draft.

1071
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 11: It was like, uh, if we don't get Aaron Rodgers,

1072
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 11: we are completely host here because there's no one left

1073
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 11: out there that we can bring in to be to

1074
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 11: be our quarterback to replace Zack Wilson. So you knew

1075
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 11: that was gonna end up happening, and the books really

1076
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 11: shifted those things that way. We saw the Packers, uh,

1077
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 11: you know, got down to eight eight and a half

1078
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 11: and then eventually down to seven and a half, which

1079
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 11: I think that maybe they're back up to eight and

1080
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 11: a half. It's it's a whole different wild West out

1081
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 11: there now with these wind totals being released in March

1082
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 11: versus like one sports book in Vegas.

1083
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: Drops him in May.

1084
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 11: But to me, the curious thing is throughout all this

1085
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 11: height being built up for Aaron Rodgers and everyone talking

1086
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 11: about it, hard knocks being on there and like it's

1087
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 11: just everything is Rogers and the Jets, Rogers and the Jets,

1088
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 11: over and over and over again. This win total hasn't

1089
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 11: budged one bit. And so I mean to me, the look,

1090
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 11: there's an obvious achillities heel here and it's the offensive line. Now,

1091
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 11: they have plenty of talent on the offensive line, and

1092
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 11: they have great athletes on the offensive line, but you've

1093
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 11: been seeing obviously and play mckaiy Beckton in this preseason

1094
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 11: like they are trying to whether whether they're trying to

1095
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 11: showcase him and they're trying to get him where he's confident.

1096
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: Going to the season. Whatever it is.

1097
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 11: You know, this is you know, Dwayne Brown, you have

1098
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 11: a lot of pieces there right, a lot of like

1099
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 11: you know, Elijah Veratucker a great player, but like there

1100
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 11: is a definite jinga piece situation shout out to Dave

1101
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 11: Damashek where if something happens on the offensive line all

1102
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 11: of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers doesn't have protection and then

1103
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 11: like maybe the defense takes a.

1104
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 4: Small step back.

1105
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 11: I know that you're watching hard knocks and you know

1106
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 11: it's like he's like, oh, that's our that's our fin quarterback.

1107
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: Nobody else has him.

1108
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, you know, the Bills have Josh Allen,

1109
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 11: Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes. So lots of good quarterbacks in

1110
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 11: the NFL. Most of them are in the AFC, which

1111
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 11: is also a problem. I just think there is a

1112
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 11: little more concern, Like the concerns for the Jets is

1113
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 11: being drastically understated to me because of the hype surrounding

1114
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers and his uh you know, joining New York

1115
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 11: and the and the way that they've been showcased this offseason.

1116
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: Right and from one team with offensive line problems to another,

1117
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, who really shocked me. Will I'm not gonna

1118
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: lie I. I really thought the offseason priority number one

1119
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: had to be offensive line reinforcements. And they basically signed

1120
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: three backups in free agency along with first round wash

1121
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: out of New England Isaiah Win. That's all that. That's it.

1122
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: And to me, I'm looking at this offensive line going

1123
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: into camp Toronto, Armstead's essentially playing on one leg and

1124
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: he's their best guy. And I mean, we heard Tua

1125
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: early in the offseason talk about how he sat down

1126
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: with his family and contemplated his future playing career and

1127
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: ultimately decides to come back. It's like, whoa, he was

1128
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: talking about hanging it up after three concussions last year.

1129
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: He has won in the first month and a half

1130
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: of the season. He might be done for good. Like

1131
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: that's what happened to Kevin Cobb. Like for those that

1132
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: remember Kevin Chobb. So how you don't invest in your

1133
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: offensive line when your potential franchise quarterback is like walking

1134
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: a tight rope of brain history. I'm dumbfounded by it.

1135
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: I really am.

1136
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty wild.

1137
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 11: And look, I think that coaching staff is really good,

1138
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 11: and I think Addick vic Fangio on the defensive side

1139
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 11: of the ball is a fantastic ad.

1140
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm with you.

1141
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 11: I think that that offensive line and we heard I

1142
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 11: think it was a little lass somebody was talking about

1143
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 11: it is Ryan Clark and Scott Van Pelad. I think

1144
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 11: I mentioned that. I don't I really don't remember who

1145
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 11: it was. I apologize for that, but it was like

1146
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 11: Tuas did nijitsu this offseason, and that's how he's like

1147
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 11: keeping his head from hitting the ground.

1148
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 4: It's like, well, I.

1149
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 11: Mean that's nice, but I mean I'm not sure that

1150
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 11: that's actually gonna work the way that you wanted to.

1151
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 11: And then two, it's like, I think one thing to

1152
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 11: really keep an eye on. When the Tua concussion things happened,

1153
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 11: the NFL overhauled without telling anybody, by the way, and

1154
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 11: basically on the fly, it's in game concussion protocol. Like

1155
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 11: if you were had concussion symptoms during a regular season game,

1156
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 11: you were done. You were done for the game. Like

1157
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 11: after the Tua thing happened, because it was it became

1158
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 11: one of those CNN deals right where the National News

1159
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 11: de sinds.

1160
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: On Miami, they want to talk about it.

1161
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 11: They want to talk about how the NFL is handling,

1162
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 11: you know, brain injuries, et cetera, et cetera. And the

1163
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 11: NFL reacted as they as they do oftentimes by being

1164
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 11: a little over the top with it and saying anyone

1165
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 11: who's got these concussion issues is going to be out

1166
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 11: of the game.

1167
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,479
Speaker 4: Well, it was notable, I thought.

1168
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 11: In the Monday Night football game preseason game between the

1169
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 11: Ravens and the Commanders, Gammy Brown, their wide receiver out

1170
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 11: of North Carolina, had concussion like symptoms. It was back

1171
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 11: on the field or back in the game, they announced

1172
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 11: pretty quickly. So I'm really curious one how the NFL

1173
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 11: is going to handle that policy, that loose policy this

1174
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 11: year in regular season games. And then two d bois like,

1175
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 11: if Tuaus suffers a concussion in week two, how on

1176
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 11: earth can you send him back out and put him

1177
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 11: under center.

1178
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 4: The rest of the year six weeks? You certainly can't

1179
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 4: do it.

1180
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 11: After one week they will just be again the CNN

1181
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 11: factor will will descend on Miami there and I just

1182
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 11: think that the NFL will probably pressure the Dolphins in

1183
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 11: the situation like that, So I'm with it. The offensive

1184
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 11: line should have been upgraded, they didn't do it. Might

1185
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 11: be Daniel great coach, but man, that is it is

1186
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 11: a tightrope.

1187
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: Well what does this Let's say this and spin it positive.

1188
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: What happens if Toa does stay completely healthy? The schedule

1189
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: for the AFC East is gonna be rough because they

1190
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 3: play each other and the AFC West. And we did

1191
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 3: see a stretch last year where that offense with TWOA

1192
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 3: behind under center looked elite, although you know the four

1193
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 3: or five defensive stretch that they played during that stretch

1194
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: were you know, they weren't the eighty five Bears. But nevertheless,

1195
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 3: if everything spins positive, to a stays on the field,

1196
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: takes every snaps. What's the upside for the Dolphins?

1197
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 4: I mean super Bowl.

1198
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 11: I know that's kind of crazy, but like we've seen

1199
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 11: Tua come in and play pretty well in a championship game, right,

1200
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 11: like on short notice. I think that this offense, this

1201
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 11: might mc daniel offense, which is a Kyle Shanahan style offense,

1202
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 11: which we've seen with the forty nine ers. Right, this

1203
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 11: is not asking your quarterback to take over and dominate.

1204
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 11: It's not like at times Josh Allen right or Patrick

1205
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 11: Mahomes are just have to take over and do everything,

1206
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 11: whether it's you know, make a behind the back throw,

1207
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 11: whether it's be one of the five greatest red zone

1208
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 11: weapons of the last ten years or fifteen years or

1209
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 11: whatever you want to call it, and just dominate with

1210
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 11: your legs, Like this offense asked.

1211
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 4: You ask the quarterback to be a point guard, to

1212
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 4: be a distributor.

1213
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 11: And when you have weapons like Jaalen Wattle and Tyreek

1214
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 11: Hill who get in space because of the schematic opportunities

1215
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 11: they're given and then they produce yards after the catch,

1216
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 11: Tua doesn't.

1217
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 4: And we're seeing a great deal of decent deball through.

1218
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: He kind of short armed it, but.

1219
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 11: You get the point, like he doesn't have to take

1220
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 11: over the games because this schematic approach for Mike McDaniel,

1221
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 11: just will is going to be difficult for teams to

1222
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 11: defend because Tyreek Kill and Jalen Wattle are just that good.

1223
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: Well, where do we think this Jonathan Taylor thing is headed?

1224
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: Because you know, he's been given permission to seek a trade.

1225
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: We now see Cleveland clearing up like thirty plus million

1226
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: in cap space, so people think they're going to be

1227
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: in on him. Steve and I were kind of batting

1228
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: it back and forth. There's probably maybe three or four

1229
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: teams that could use him that maybe don't have a

1230
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: quarterback answer and could use him to carry the offense.

1231
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: How do you see this thing shaken out? Does it

1232
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: happen before Week one? You think?

1233
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 11: I mean, ultimately, I think he ends up going back

1234
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 11: to Indianapolis and I are staying in Indianapolis, and I

1235
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 11: think it's a real shame that I read about this

1236
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 11: for cbsports dot Com. You can check out the article

1237
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 11: over there, But you know, it feels very much like

1238
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 11: another situation where and I know that like Stephen Holder

1239
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 11: with ESPN, who's great at his job and a great reporter,

1240
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 11: has said that this is a Chris Ballard thing, and

1241
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 11: that's fine. I just think there are so many signs

1242
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 11: from Indianapolis that Jim Ersay has not not just has

1243
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 11: his hands like he's not just in the kitchen, he's

1244
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 11: got his hands in the cookie dough, right, I mean

1245
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 11: like he is. He is heavily involved in basically everything

1246
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 11: going on with this franchise.

1247
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 4: We heard him say I could.

1248
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 11: Die tomorrow and Jonathan Taylor's out of the league and

1249
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 11: no one will carey.

1250
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 4: You just don't say that.

1251
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 11: About the face of or like one of the faces

1252
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 11: of your franchise. Additionally, you have a.

1253
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 4: Ton of cap space. You have a rookie.

1254
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 11: Quarterback who is one of the like a one of

1255
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 11: the most explosive athletes we've ever seen in the position

1256
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 11: in terms of combine performance and athleticism. Who's gonna come

1257
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 11: in and be very He's going to need to use

1258
01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 11: his legs.

1259
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 4: He's in a Shanstike offense.

1260
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 11: We saw what Jalen Hurst did, We know what Anthony

1261
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 11: Richardson's gonna be. Why would you not sign Jonathan Taylor

1262
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 11: to one of those air quotes five year deals. That's

1263
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 11: basically a three year deal that you can then cut

1264
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 11: him after Anthony Richardson's rookie contractor when he's due for

1265
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 11: an extension. Like Jonathan Taylor is a great compliment to

1266
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 11: Anthony Richardson. It makes no sense to me, and I

1267
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 11: feel like maybe they're playing try to play hardball by saying,

1268
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 11: go get a trade, but we need a first rounder

1269
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 11: back because I just don't see any team being willing

1270
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 11: to give up a first round pick for a running back.

1271
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 11: You know, Cleveland, I get it, but like they have

1272
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 11: Nick Chubb right, It's like, is the team really gonna

1273
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 11: give a first round pick and then signed Taylor to

1274
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 11: this huge contracts when really the Colt should just pay him,

1275
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 11: keep him for three years, pair him with Richardson, and

1276
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:43,959
Speaker 11: then move on from him after that deal.

1277
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 3: How many guys available and what do you think the

1278
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: gap is between a guy like Jonathan Taylor and the

1279
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: next guy up, whoever that might be.

1280
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 11: Like the next guy on the Colts chart of the

1281
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 11: next guy available anyway, And.

1282
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 3: How big the drop off gonna be? I mean, certainly

1283
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: the Colts aren't gonna go in there with nobody. They've

1284
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: got guys on their roster and the plus whoever is

1285
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: available in free agency.

1286
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 11: Epizide Zach malsin Evan Hall are their next guys and

1287
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 11: full disclosure, I definitely fired up our lads to check

1288
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 11: their depth charge to picture. I knew it was so yeah, Like,

1289
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 11: I mean, it's a pretty big drop off.

1290
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: That's what's That's what's so wild to me, is you

1291
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 4: know you want to like share.

1292
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 11: I mean, the Eagles ran the ball a bunch last year, right,

1293
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Speaker 11: Miles Sanders had this great running season with Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 11: in the Shane Steiken offense. Why, Like, it's just not

1295
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Speaker 11: gonna work the same way without Zach. There's a big,

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Speaker 11: big drop off to me from Jonathan Taylor. Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 11: for for NFL Media always points out I think it

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Speaker 11: does a great job noting this, Like we can say

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Speaker 11: the running back position is devalued, and it is right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the guys go later in the draft.

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Speaker 11: You're not getting these huge contracts, but at the end

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Speaker 11: of the day, you need to like, a dynamic running

1303
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Speaker 11: back is a game changing player, and it is worth

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Speaker 11: keeping a guy like Jonathan Taylor on the roster if

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Speaker 11: you can do it.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's it's a very earths a type

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Speaker 4: of situation.

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Speaker 11: I just go back to the hiring of Jeff Saturday

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 11: and think, man, this guy cannot cut his hands off

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Speaker 11: this roster.

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Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you will concerns teams in

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Speaker 2: the AFC that could find their way into the playoffs

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Speaker 2: after missing last year. Who do you think kind of

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Speaker 2: really had a nice offseason and could probably be team

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Speaker 2: six or seven in the AFC picture, which as we

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Speaker 2: know is jam packed with a lot of really good teams.

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Speaker 11: So have we gotten to and you're right, like if

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Speaker 11: you rip off the quarterbacks right, like take so we

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Speaker 11: say Mahomes, Josh Burrow, Lamar, We'll throw Trevor Lawrence in there,

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Speaker 11: because if they win the AFC south right, and then like.

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Speaker 4: You can just you can fill up this list really quickly.

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Speaker 11: And so there's gonna be there's it's just not gonna

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Speaker 11: be Herbert right, and it's just not gonna be this easy.

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Speaker 11: I would say the team that I think is the

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Speaker 11: most interesting that missed the playoffs last year is the

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Speaker 11: Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike tom One is as good as it

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Speaker 11: comes in terms of a coach in the NFL. Can't

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Speaker 11: it Picket because I'd like to imagine him being a

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Speaker 11: NASCAR driver. It just is just more fun to say

1330
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Speaker 11: it that way, can't it? Picket actually flash in the preseason.

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 11: George Pickens is a monster. They have Deontay Johnson still there.

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Speaker 11: Of course, the offensive live has been a retooled and

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Speaker 11: it might be better than people think. And then that defense,

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Speaker 11: it could be really stout, so you know, future Hall

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Speaker 11: of Famer. I think a Cameron Heyward make if Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 11: of course, like Patrick Peterson comes into play. By the way,

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Speaker 11: check out All Things Covered with Pat p and Brian

1338
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 11: mcfadne on the CBS Sports podcast network. I think Pittsburgh

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01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 11: is a sneaky high floor team that if there's enough

1340
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Speaker 11: variance with like Joe Burr and Lamar Jackson injury wise,

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Speaker 11: where Pittsburgh could absolutely steal that division to sneak into

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Speaker 11: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And I know this too. That and last one for me,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna ask you about the AFC West. Certainly

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs are sitting there along with Joe Burr,

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01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 3: I mean Justin Herbert and the Chargers. But Sean Payton

1347
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 3: comes into Denver with an established quarterback and then too

1348
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 3: many question marks about that side, about who's gonna take snaps?

1349
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 3: How how if you're talking about digging out of a hole,

1350
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: the AFC West is the last place you want to

1351
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: start digging because you haven't got to shovel big enough.

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01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 4: I know.

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 11: It's like, it's why Sean Payton, Like the only two

1354
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 11: jobs he wanted were in the AFC West. It's like, dude,

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 11: Andy Reid and Patrick Holmes aren't go anywhere for a while.

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,879
Speaker 11: Like there's you should check out the AFC South. It's

1357
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 11: it's got some it's got some room to wiggle. I

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 11: am blindly trusting Sean Payton. I think he's one of

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 11: the two best offensive play callers and offensive minds the

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Speaker 11: last twenty years, behind only Andy Reid.

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Speaker 4: I think he is a tremendous coach. To me, that

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 4: is not being talked about enough.

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Speaker 11: One last year with the seven wins season and then

1364
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 11: too like if everyone Derek carrs in town, the Sames

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01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 11: will be great. Like Sean Payton is a really, really

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 11: good coach, and I think they'll miss him again in

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 11: New Orleans this year. I'm going to blindly trust that

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Speaker 11: Sean Payton doesn't take that job. In Denver unless he

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01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 11: believes he can fix Russell Wilson and the way he's

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01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 11: been talking about the Jets and talking everything up. I

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Speaker 11: I know this is this is not like a great

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Speaker 11: analytical or even like football analysis take. I'm blindly trusting

1373
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 11: Sean Payton because I think he's that good a coach.

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Speaker 11: I've got Denver as the second best team in the division.

1375
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 11: I believe Chargers can be great, but I feel like

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01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 11: they might be the team that disappoints.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, appreciate the time as always. We'll catch

1378
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: up with you down the line and enjoy the kickoff

1379
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 4: Man, Hey, anytime you guys, you soon.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a senior writer from CBS Sports, Will

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 2: Brinson joining us.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. I could see Denver leap

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: frogging the Chargers. I could see it happening. There's talent

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: on that roster.

1387
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Speaker 3: Charger. His charger is gonna charger.

1388
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,520
Speaker 2: Charger could charger again. They It's a distinct possibility.

1389
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I like, I'm kind of with him. I

1390
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 3: think Sean Payton is a very very good coach, an

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01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 3: elite coach, and he's gonna straighten the ship. In Denver

1392
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 3: very quickly, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know enough about their

1394
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,879
Speaker 3: roster to think he's got enough food in the cupboard

1395
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: to get him through a long season. But I do

1396
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 3: like his ability to and his faith in himself to

1397
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 3: fix Russell Wilson, give him what he needs. Get that

1398
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: offense on the move. And in that division, you got

1399
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: to score man. You got to put points on the board.

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: With the Chiefs and with the Chargers, you got to

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01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: ring up the scoreboard. And I think Peyton can do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm with him on the Pittsburgh pick, I really like.

1403
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Tomlin's a given and all that other stuff.

1404
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: But I like the draft that they had, and I

1405
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: also like the free agent period that they had. They

1406
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: brought in. They really worked hard to fortify the lines,

1407
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: which needed help because they were getting long in the

1408
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 2: tooth there on offense end defense, and they know they

1409
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: had to retool their secondary a bit, and that's probably

1410
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: the chief concern. But I really like some of the

1411
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: moves that they made with you know, Omar Khan now

1412
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: running the show there in the GM seat, So I

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01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: think they play in a black and Blue Division, don't

1414
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: get me wrong, and they're gonna beat each other up

1415
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: there in the AFC North, But more often than not,

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01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: I I find myself getting to like ten to eleven

1417
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: wins for the For the Steelers, a lot has to

1418
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: go right, but still somehow they always seem to find

1419
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: a way, and with the moves they made, I think

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01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: they got a shot at it. Yeah, let's get back

1421
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: to the phones at eight oh three oh five point fifty,

1422
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: where we've had people waiting patiently to weigh in on

1423
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 2: the receiver that's new to Buffalo's roster that has impressed

1424
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: you the most through the course of the summer. We

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: go to Steve in Amherst. Next, Steve, what do you

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: got for us here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 8: Okay, gentlemen, this is the deal. Buffalo is definitely going

1428
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 8: to the super Bowl. Surefield is a very very good receiver.

1429
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Speaker 8: He's gonna make us better thro Kincaid in there, and

1430
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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody can double up on any of

1431
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 8: our receivers. The result is they're gonna be able to

1432
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 8: blitz the offense less and I think the Bills will

1433
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 8: be very inspired this year. Now, I really think another

1434
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 8: player of Cyrus Torrance has got a massive potential and

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 8: that I'm looking to him to next year.

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Speaker 12: I'd love to see him stay in Buffalo and train

1437
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 12: here at Buffalo, get him into a good, solid aerobics class,

1438
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 12: and keep him working. I don't want him to be

1439
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 12: the fastest forty yard man. I just want him to

1440
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 12: be fast for his ten yard dash. If they cut

1441
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 12: the penalties or the turnovers done down, it's a done deal.

1442
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 12: We can win this Super Bowl.

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01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm out, all right, Steve, thanks very much. I think

1444
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: Osirus is just fine. You know, as far as the

1445
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: offensive line goes, and some of the criticism they faced

1446
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: from last week's game, he wasn't really a part of it.

1447
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 3: That's right.

1448
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: In terms of the negatives, I think I think he's

1449
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: been pretty steady.

1450
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 3: I think people are pointing towards Spencer Brown and Dion Dawkins,

1451
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: who you know, just didn't weren't that good in that game.

1452
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 3: There was penalties and all of that stuff. Although I

1453
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 3: don't really worry about Dion Dawkins. I think some of these,

1454
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: like I said, I think some of the veteran guys

1455
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: on this team were yawning what they just want to

1456
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 3: get through that game. They didn't care enough to look

1457
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: good in that game, and they and they got him.

1458
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: They got, you know, smoked by the Steelers team who

1459
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: was playing hard. The cleanup in the second half, I

1460
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 3: think is indicative of that. Uh Somewhile some the guys

1461
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: who came into the game in the second half were

1462
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: played most of the second half were clean as it was,

1463
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: had one penalty in the second half. The turnovers got

1464
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: cleaned up. Everything you can put you know, some of those,

1465
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, Matt Barklay got you know, one was tipped interception.

1466
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: Is a bad throw, but it got tipped interception. If

1467
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 3: that ball lands, the Bills come away with points. They

1468
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,879
Speaker 3: outscored the after spotting them two touchdowns. The Bills outscored

1469
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 3: them for the remainder of the game. It's there's a

1470
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 3: lot in that game, but I'm the offensive line is

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01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 3: gonna be it's gonna be good. Their mate. They're way

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 3: more talented than they were a year ago. They have

1473
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 3: better players than they did a year ago, and they're

1474
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: they'll figure it out. They got two new players playing guard,

1475
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 3: which means all five players are talking to somebody new

1476
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 3: this year than they weren't. That they weren't talking to

1477
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 3: last year. The guy's next to them, So that'll take

1478
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 3: some getting used to. But already you've seen signs where

1479
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 3: they've got good communication. They're getting to the right guy.

1480
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 3: Put a hat on a hat. So when the rest

1481
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 3: of this comes, when the when the games start counting,

1482
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 3: you can bet that the intensity is going to go

1483
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 3: up and so will their play. Now, I could be wrong,

1484
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I don't think I am

1485
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 3: with that.

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: We'll take a break here.

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01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 3: That surprised you, guys.

1488
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm wrong. That's the Charles Barkley line

1489
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: for sure.

1490
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take a break here, be back with more

1492
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: on that subject. And we may also hear from the

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: post practice podium from some players schedule to address the media.

1494
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that when we come back

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01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collidea Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Right back here, I want to live

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a Wednesday. Time

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Speaker 2: new receiver to Buffalo's roster has impressed you the most

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01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: what I've seen from Desmond Patman. I think he showed

1505
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: us a lot of what he can do, especially in

1506
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 2: that indie game. Still has a lot more to prove

1507
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: in the remaining preseason game to make even a practice

1508
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: squad spot, but he's definitely showing us why he's in

1509
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: the NFL. That is a dark horse pick for sure.

1510
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: From Andrew did have the touchdown catch in the Indie game.

1511
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: Really did not get a lot of snaps in the

1512
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh game.

1513
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be a function of rotating thirteen guys

1514
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 3: through the game. You're gonna get the first game and

1515
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: then some other guys are gonna get snaps in the

1516
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 3: second game. So if the guy plays well in the

1517
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: snaps he gets, I think that you got to think

1518
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: there's another reason why he didn't get more snaps, you know,

1519
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,839
Speaker 3: And I think that has to do with the thirteen

1520
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 3: guys on the roster.

1521
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: We saw something similar with with Keishawn Johnson on that

1522
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: he got a lot of run in the first preseason game,

1523
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: did not get much in the second preseason game. So

1524
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: it's he's not alone in that, I guess, is my

1525
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: point in mentioning that, because looking up and down here

1526
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: in terms of the snaps from the second preseason game,

1527
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: I am looking for him because I don't remember seeing

1528
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 2: him even get into the game. Yeah, I don't think

1529
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: he even played right last week Desmond Patman.

1530
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: So but and I'll say this too, he did not play.

1531
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 3: If you see the guy go into the game and

1532
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: play really well and he doesn't play in the next game,

1533
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: there's no right answer as to why that happened.

1534
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: Right, You can't don't write him off because he didn't

1535
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: get any run in the.

1536
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 3: Second Could be Bill's love him and they're hiding him now,

1537
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: right right, I mean, the guy's gonna come back on

1538
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 3: the practice squad and they don't want anybody to see

1539
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 3: any more of him. Or it could be that because

1540
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 3: of other stuff that we don't see, like in the

1541
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 3: meetings and the work out that that maybe he's late

1542
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 3: to meetings, maybe he doesn't show up for workouts. Maybe

1543
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys. Now it's like, you know, what.

1544
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 3: We don't have time for that. Even no matter how

1545
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: you play on Sunday, you gotta get ready to play.

1546
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 3: You're not gonna mess up our and you're gone for

1547
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: good anyway, You're not gonna play anymore and you're done.

1548
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 3: And they're just you're you're gonna play all every snap

1549
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: in this game, So we can you know that kind

1550
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 3: of thing? All there's it's both. It's both ends of

1551
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 3: that spectrum. Either they love him and they're hiding him,

1552
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 3: or they're loving him and they're giving him a chance

1553
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: to make the roster, or they're they hate him and

1554
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: they're playing him every snap, or they hate him and

1555
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: they're and they've already signed off on him. Either one

1556
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: of those things can can account for taking all the

1557
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 3: snaps or zero snaps. So they don't tell us this stuff.

1558
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: That's why we have to ask. And it's it's maddening

1559
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: right with because now we've got to there's thirteen guys

1560
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 3: playing wide receiver on this team.

1561
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and probably and we're pretty sure five of them.

1562
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know if for sure five of them

1563
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 2: right now? Right four maybe? Right Jack on the tweets

1564
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,919
Speaker 2: sheet says Tyrell Shavers, I love his size, speed, willingness

1565
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 2: to go up and get it or go over the middle.

1566
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: I doubt he makes the fifty three, but I hope

1567
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: he sticks on the practice squad for later on. Also,

1568
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: I think Sherfield is a steal and the Fins will

1569
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: rue the day they let him leave for the seven

1570
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: to one six. The man wants it and works for it.

1571
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: He does work for it, that's for sure. Shavers, though,

1572
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: is a guy Steve likes. He certainly flashed in the

1573
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: Colts game. You know, had the touchdown pass on the

1574
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 2: blown coverage from the Colts. Did have some drops in

1575
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 2: that game. As Steve has said on our show, he

1576
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: had the perfect roller coaster game that you'd expect from

1577
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie receiver.

1578
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a tipped ball for an inner exception

1579
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 3: pick six. He answered it with a touchdown, and then

1580
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: he drew a penalty down the field on a pass

1581
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: interference and then dropped a pass. I mean, that's it's

1582
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 3: two big ups and two big downs. Plus he has

1583
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 3: this nice catch. So there's three ups there, you go.

1584
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 3: I mean, so it's you're gonna ride the roller coaster, man.

1585
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 3: You got to get on that train and and hang on.

1586
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 2: But that speaks more to a guy, Hey, we like

1587
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 2: what he can do, needs some seasoning.

1588
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 3: And I'll say that's that's the hardest thing for a

1589
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 3: young player to do because everywhere you look, you're going

1590
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: against the best guy you've ever competed against, and so

1591
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a good rep and you're gonna have

1592
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 3: a bad rep. And until you can learn how to

1593
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 3: manage the ability of the guy you're playing against and

1594
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 3: how high that is at the NFL level, it's hard

1595
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 3: to play consistently because every time you do something that's good,

1596
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 3: he'll have a technique that you haven't seen before and

1597
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 3: not ready for that kind of thing, so plus the

1598
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: ability to execute it. So these guys are it's hard

1599
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 3: to play well every single snap. These young guys are

1600
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 3: the proof of that.

1601
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: ELI on the tweets sheet, says Andy is Abella went

1602
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: from just a body to I think will make the

1603
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: roster exclamation point, says Eli. Every time he's got an opportunity,

1604
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: he's done well with them, whether it's on punt returns

1605
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: or running routes on offense, he has shown up and

1606
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 2: he's been noticeable, and his separation is undeniable. I mean

1607
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: they the clip our MSG viewers are watching, they put

1608
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: a linebacker on him in the slot. I mean that's

1609
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 2: the biggest layup you could have on an offense. Well, yeah,

1610
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: with that guy.

1611
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 3: And you probably won't see that in the regular season,

1612
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 3: just like you're not gonna see a big linebacker on

1613
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid. You're gonna see a safety or corner on him,

1614
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 3: third corner. You got to able to win those matchups.

1615
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: And Isabella and the thing about it is Ken Dorsey

1616
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 3: said in his media availability today, the league is not

1617
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: getting slower, and Isabella gives you a level of speed

1618
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: the Bills don't have anyplace else.

1619
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1620
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: You put Isabelle out there with Hardy and all of

1621
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 3: a sudden, you are a fast offense. So that's something

1622
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 3: you got to think about.

1623
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: Finally, Mark on the tweet, she says Trent Sherfield because

1624
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: of his versatility, he could play slot boundary and is

1625
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 2: also a willing blocker. Yes, yes, and yes, I think

1626
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 2: we've talked plenty about Srfield today. Let's pivot now to

1627
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: the post practice podium, where one aj Epanessa is addressing

1628
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 2: the media as he gets ready for season four of

1629
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: his NFL career.

1630
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: SWAYJ Coming off a productive season, how do you feel

1631
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 3: where do you feel you are in your progression at

1632
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 3: this point in your career?

1633
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 13: To say, towards last year, I can competently say I

1634
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 13: was starting to take another step in my game. I'm

1635
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 13: starting to progress a little bit. And this year, this

1636
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 13: camp has all has all been taking more steps, playing

1637
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 13: with more confidence, playing with more swagger, and just try

1638
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 13: to get my level of productivity up. Just make some

1639
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 13: more plays in the backfield, make sure I'm ironing out

1640
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 13: my responsibilities, whatever it may be. Just to eliminate that

1641
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 13: thinking process. That's my biggest goal.

1642
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 14: The way they have addressed that, you know that the

1643
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 14: need for more consistent pressure on the quarterback kind of

1644
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 14: across the board and brought in Leonard that sort of

1645
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 14: a thing. I mean, does that competition kind of raise

1646
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 14: the level of what you're talking about.

1647
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 13: I'm a huge believer in competition, breeze excellence and the

1648
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 13: fact what I mean by that is, I mean the

1649
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 13: more competition you have around I mean it pushes you

1650
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 13: to be greater, or the iron sharpens iron mantra, the

1651
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 13: the having having good athletes around you that push you

1652
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 13: to be great or or can teach me a thing

1653
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 13: or two when I have questions. Because when I have

1654
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 13: a question and Vond's not out there or some of

1655
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 13: the other more experienced rushers, I'll go ahead and ask

1656
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 13: him because they've been around the block a couple of times.

1657
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 13: They've they've been there before. So it's always it's always

1658
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 13: nice to be able to learn things from some bets

1659
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 13: as well.

1660
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 14: What was it that kind of allows you to make

1661
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 14: the progress that you have? In other words, what was

1662
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 14: it that they be triggered that beyond just repetition and experience.

1663
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 14: Was there something you can point to to.

1664
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 12: Say where you were able to.

1665
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 13: Find you're maybe continue to Yeah, I would definitely say

1666
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 13: probably just confidence, confidence of myself, confidence of my rush

1667
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 13: confidence and my body weight and my strength, and just

1668
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 13: having that overwhelming amount of confidence to be able to

1669
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 13: push yourself through, propel your well your way through like

1670
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 13: a rush or a run game. I mean that is

1671
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 13: that mind game is majority part of the sport. I'd

1672
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 13: like to say, do you.

1673
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 15: Feel, obviously, who've well documented the physical change you went

1674
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 15: early in your career, you feel like that's really passed

1675
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 15: you and now you are fully without thinking now this

1676
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 15: type of pass rusher the different what.

1677
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 6: You world I want?

1678
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean there there was a huge change. I

1679
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 13: mean twenty pounds in weight. I mean that changes the

1680
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 13: style of play have to play at, or just the

1681
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 13: amount of push I have behind my punch and stuff

1682
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 13: like that. So that was definitely a huge change. I've

1683
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 13: kind of found that happy medium right now if I'm

1684
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 13: at a pretty good way to around two sixty five

1685
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 13: and in maintaining and I feel like it's maybe a

1686
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 13: little stronger to sixty five as well. My off season

1687
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 13: I went through this year was really good, and working

1688
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 13: with Ciano on the strength staff here, just trying to

1689
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 13: keep that muscle mass of two sixty five on instead

1690
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 13: of just kind of eating my way to to sixty

1691
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 13: five that makes any sense, So trying to be a

1692
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 13: little more active in that field and my nutrition and

1693
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 13: and keeping my body healthy so that I can have that,

1694
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 13: like I said, or that confidence to just go out

1695
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 13: and fly around and make plays.

1696
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 15: Mm hmm. Yeah.

1697
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 13: I was struggling the game these past couple of years,

1698
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 13: but I gotten that routine and now it's kind of

1699
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 13: sticking now. So now I gotta start being careful h.

1700
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 9: M.

1701
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 15: Incorporate that TechEd a yeah.

1702
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 13: Uh, there's all different kinds of rushers, different body types.

1703
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: Me.

1704
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 13: I'm I'm tall, long, I'm not the biggest guy in

1705
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 13: the world, but uh, I use my speed to power

1706
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 13: really well. And guys like Bond who also used that well,

1707
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 13: and there's guys across the league that do it well

1708
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 13: and something like his his pastor sum. It gives me

1709
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 13: the opportunity to to take bits and pieces from other guys,

1710
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 13: like the things they do well. I can take bits

1711
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 13: and pieces and kind of add it into my repertoire

1712
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 13: at my bag a little bit as well. Whether it's

1713
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 13: the approach with the steps, you know, eyes, whether I'm

1714
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 13: trying to bait them thinking I'm thinking something else just

1715
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 13: by my eyes, or hand placement, just stuff like that,

1716
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 13: things that I might have never even thought about. It

1717
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 13: just gives you a different perspective at a place like that.

1718
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 4: Mm hm.

1719
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 6: M hm.

1720
01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 15: Oh.

1721
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I've I've put enough rushes on tape

1722
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 13: to where guys have seen me throw. I have a

1723
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 13: couple of patented moves now with my swipe and my

1724
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 13: stab club and things like that. A couple guys are

1725
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 13: starting to notice and they'll ask me like, how do

1726
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 13: I approach it or how do I when I come

1727
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 13: with the swipe? Am I thinking like vertical, lacross, reaching

1728
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 13: for it? Like And it's just all different details that

1729
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 13: guys want to take, like I said, bits and pieces,

1730
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 13: because you don't want to completely take it because it

1731
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 13: works for them and not you, Like, we're not the

1732
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 13: same person, so you want to take things that work

1733
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 13: from them and kind of adam your game to help

1734
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 13: help just raise it another level.

1735
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: All right, that's aj Epanessa talking about working the finer

1736
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: details of his craft. We have to take a break here,

1737
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: but Steve and I back to close things up next

1738
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live Stay two. All right, back

1739
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live bit of a scary situation

1740
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 2: down at Giants practice today. Former Bills tight end Tommy Sweeney,

1741
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 2: who's now on the Giants roster, apparently had a medical

1742
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 2: event at practice today and according to the Giants, is

1743
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 2: under the care of medical professionals in the Giants Athletic

1744
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 2: training room. He is stable, alert and conversant. But as

1745
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: soon as I saw this report, the first thing I

1746
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 2: thought of, Steve. You remember, right when COVID hit Tommy

1747
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: was one of the players on the roster, that one

1748
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: of the first players on the roster to test positive

1749
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: and then suffered from myo carditis afterwards. And you know,

1750
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sound alarm bells, but we're still

1751
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: learning about after effects of having COVID at all age levels.

1752
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. Thoughts go out to him, and hopefully

1753
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 3: he was a good teammate here. People, We loved him.

1754
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 3: He didn't never really worked out for him here, but

1755
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 3: you never ate to see that. Yeah, you hate to

1756
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 3: see that.

1757
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: So hopefully all things are good with him, and he's

1758
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: all right down there. He's certainly in good hands now

1759
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: that the medical professionals are tending to him and he

1760
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 2: is listed as stable, so those are all good things.

1761
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: So all the best to Tommy Sweeney down there. I

1762
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: am off tomorrow, so Maddie will be in this chair

1763
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: with Steve and they will carry you through tomorrow's practice

1764
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: and all the goings on here at one Bill's Drive.

1765
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: They will see you.

1766
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: We'll have fun while you're gone.

1767
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've listen