Speaker 1: I Suck at Dating with Dean Angler. Can I heart
Speaker 1: radio podcast? Okay? Joining us now? It's probably the most
Speaker 1: questionable person we can have on this podcast. Christina Shulman
Speaker 1: from Bachelor in Paradise. Hey, Chris, Hi, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good? Sorry, slightly caught off guard. Uh yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so thanks for taking the call from us. I know
Speaker 1: we've talked about this briefly. Um. The name of this
Speaker 1: podcast is help I Suck at Dating? And since you
Speaker 1: and I have dated each other, I would love to
Speaker 1: tell you. I would love for you to tell me
Speaker 1: why and what I do that's so sucky at dating? Oh,
Speaker 1: this is a bad question. The let's just endless? Um okay, Well,
Speaker 1: well can we start with communication? Are we serious about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It gets get serious. Let's I mean, we gotta get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of it. Well yeah, okay. So what
Speaker 1: I've noticed with you is, I'm sure the rest of
Speaker 1: America has too, that you have the swall up and
Speaker 1: you're always joking and you're smiling. But as soon as
Speaker 1: sell and get past our walls, like you have a
Speaker 1: lot to say, you have a lot going on, and
Speaker 1: between you and me, I think I've noticed that early
Speaker 1: on fairly early on, especially in Paradise, when you're like
Speaker 1: constantly talking feeling. I think you didn't have any other
Speaker 1: choice except to talk them. And I mean you're better
Speaker 1: communication now because I think you're a little bit open,
Speaker 1: more open to me and to everyone else. But I
Speaker 1: think that was a huge thing. But don't you think
Speaker 1: it's more fun to have a dating relationship where all
Speaker 1: you do is laugh and smile the whole time instead
Speaker 1: of talking about feelings? Well, of course, but I mean
Speaker 1: you can have all all of those things, but how
Speaker 1: does the relationship get stronger deeper without talking feeling. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be all fine and uh, flirting and
Speaker 1: lasting in the beginning, but eventually I think it has
Speaker 1: to move into some kind of Yeah, I agree, I
Speaker 1: think that makes sense. Okay, so what else you said?
Speaker 1: That was just the first thing. And also, I mean
Speaker 1: we weren't Paradise, and I think there wasn't really much
Speaker 1: time for all exploitation and last year. But maybe it's
Speaker 1: just me putting pressure on. No, I mean, don't the
Speaker 1: podcast doesn't help Christina sucks at dating. It's help I
Speaker 1: suck at dating. Okay, that's fry. I gotta shift my faults. Yes,
Speaker 1: don't don't put the blame on yourself here. Let's okay.
Speaker 1: So what about besides communication? What else is there why
Speaker 1: you started dating? Yeah? From your experience, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about this and it's hard because
Speaker 1: obviously we've had a lot of private conversations and we've
Speaker 1: talked quite a bit. So, UM, it's like this, this
Speaker 1: is really weird for me to just completely tell, like
Speaker 1: constantly tell you how terrible you're out dating, because like
Speaker 1: I was that person interested in dating you and now
Speaker 1: telling you how bad you are. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: But another thing I guess, um, do you tend to
Speaker 1: like sugarcoat things and I say exactly how you feel?
Speaker 1: You try to find a run about way, but sometimes
Speaker 1: it's best to just say it right. They might hurt.
Speaker 1: And I've told you this multiple times, but it's going
Speaker 1: to stay in a moment. It's better than finding out later.
Speaker 1: Um No, I agree. I think that that's definitely the
Speaker 1: thing that I struggle the most with, um, well, maybe
Speaker 1: not the most with, but the communication. And honestly that
Speaker 1: that hurts someone, right, It's just it's important to be honest.
Speaker 1: But when the honesty hurts someone. That makes it a a
Speaker 1: little bit harder. I would say, I mean, I agree,
Speaker 1: but I just still I think better because at least
Speaker 1: you're being honest. All right, Christina? Next question for you?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, am I a good kisser? Uh? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all. Well, well what I thought we were talking
Speaker 1: about all this? But no, you're a good kiss there.
Speaker 1: Give me on a scale one to ten, one to ten, okay, three, two,
Speaker 1: that's pretty generous. Thank you. I'm doing mine. Um okay,
Speaker 1: So say, say I was at a bar animily in Lexington, right,
Speaker 1: and we hadn't known each other, we never met each other.
Speaker 1: Do you think that we still would have um met
Speaker 1: and hit it off like we did? Um? I? From
Speaker 1: my perspective, I don't usually meet people out of bar,
Speaker 1: so I probably wouldn't have giving you a chance. How
Speaker 1: do you normally meet people? I mean, when I go
Speaker 1: out to your bars just to have fun with my friends?
Speaker 1: How do I meet people friends of friends? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: sure eventually we were may have met somehow. I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, you're it's Lexington. It's fairly small, so
Speaker 1: people are running to each other. From next question, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is re cently awkward, So I think we're out
Speaker 1: too a good start. Um, all right, Christina, twenty years
Speaker 1: from now, if someone mentioned my name, would you think
Speaker 1: what a jerk? Or do you think he's a nice guy?
Speaker 1: Those were good times? I will I mean, okay, so
Speaker 1: I will. I think I will always thank you a
Speaker 1: nice guy, because, um, I think you do have a
Speaker 1: great heart and you are kind, maybe not in dating,
Speaker 1: but I think that also comes with maybe like age
Speaker 1: and maturing and still learning about what is it that
Speaker 1: you want? But what is it? I'm older than you,
Speaker 1: and I'm considerably more mature than you are. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: no that is anyway, twenty years from now, I will
Speaker 1: look back and I'll be like, that was a good guy.
Speaker 1: That was a good lesson. Oh good lesson. I mean
Speaker 1: I've learned a lost from trying to date you. What's what?
Speaker 1: What was the lesson? I'm asking because I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: like I've I've learned a lot of lessons personally, Um,
Speaker 1: just watching everything back, right, And I know that it's
Speaker 1: not easy for us to like watch ourselves back on
Speaker 1: TV or anything like that, but we're like obviously doing
Speaker 1: it very publicly, and like everyone is able to watch
Speaker 1: us and have their own opinion about it. Um, So
Speaker 1: I know what I've learned, and I'm continuing to work
Speaker 1: on that, and I obviously appreciate you being there to
Speaker 1: help me work on it with me. But like, what, like,
Speaker 1: what do you think you learned? Do you think, well,
Speaker 1: this is your podcast, but what did you learn? Now
Speaker 1: we've talked about that enough staff, No, come on, I'm curious.
Speaker 1: We haven't actually really talked about that. Why did I
Speaker 1: learn what the conversations we've had. I know I probably
Speaker 1: came off aggressive a few times, but I'm learning to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more sensitive, more sensitive. I think
Speaker 1: you are? You are sensitive? You thought though, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: more fun prove mentally. Um, And I also think I
Speaker 1: need to, like, well, what did I learn to let
Speaker 1: the other person speak a little bit more? How's that
Speaker 1: you think? You think that I get away with trying
Speaker 1: to get my point across when in fact I need
Speaker 1: to hear these two all right? Christina, Well, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: for um kind of blindsiding you with this phone call,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you taking the time to awkwardly talk
Speaker 1: about our dating foibles. Um, it's only awkward if you
Speaker 1: make well we're I'm making it awkward, so it's sufficiently
Speaker 1: awkward right now, Um, are you what? I'm getting some
Speaker 1: pleasure out of this chalkward? Now, well, I'm glad you're
Speaker 1: enjoying it. That makes one of us. Um all right, well,
Speaker 1: thanks again. Um, I wish you the best and well
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon. I mean, obviously good. This
Speaker 1: is going to do great. You're the best, Okay, bye
Speaker 1: bye