1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our podcast. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you for joining us today. Hope 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: Hope it gives your perspective to see God is moving. 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: In your life. Enjoy the message. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: I think when you said to me, if you remove 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: the element of time, it takes away disappointment. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: It took me five minutes to. 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Realize how powerful it was what you said, because think 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: about it, we're going well, I thought God was going 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: to make a way, but he didn't. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: How do you know yet? Right? How do you know 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't the way? Right? You know? 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: We won't stay on the path. We just want to 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: get off on the next exit. And what does that mean? 17 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Because again a metaphor, a metaphor, Well, when I say 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: pat and ecton, I'm talking about moving forward in the 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: last thing that God spoke to you to do, or 20 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: continuing to sow seeds in the place God has planted you. 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Whether that means your prayers, your kindness, you're showing up, 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: your discipline, your diligence, whatever that means for you. The 23 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: mindset to get out of this mentality that says, if 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't see the way right away, then I'm going 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: to turn around and try something else. It's the enemy 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: of your faith. And I'm not coming to you on 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: this saying that I've never done it before. 28 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: I have. I felt so frustrated. 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: It's a temptation for me to want to judge the 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: success of something based on the immediate impact that it makes, 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: based on the immediate feeling that it gives me, or 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: whether I can quantify it. That's why I loved my 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: little corny wordplay about suck seeds. It's like the seed 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: goes down into the ground, breaks apart, goes through trauma, 35 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: and comes back up after water and light and fertilizer. 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: And so so our faith is like that. That's the 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: way God germinates the things that he puts in our life. 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then what we do is we get in 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: trouble because we start saying, well, what if this turns 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: out and it's negative? And I want to jump back 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: in that because I think we usually add three things 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: that really ruin it for everybody, which is the first 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: one is associated with our fear of loss pain. Well, 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: what if I do this and I lose prestige, I 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: lose status, I lose their respect, I lose money, I 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: lose time. And so we start saying, well, what if 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 3: I do this and I lose this and I lose 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: it now? And it's just and it's black or white thinking. 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: I'm what if I do it and it's loss, and 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: they're not thinking, well, what if I do it and 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: it's a gain. What if I do it and it 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: is planting that seed? What if I do it and 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: it has a positive impact. What if I do it 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: and I gain money? Well all the other external things 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: people think that they want. It really does change the brain. 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: So if you hear yourself saying what if negative and 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: it's lack, challenge yourself to balance your thinking. 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: This is a lot of part of maturities. You learn 59 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: to balance thinking. 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: And when you're younger it's black or white, and when 61 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: you get older you can apply nuance and you can say, oh, 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: what if. 63 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: What if this turns out terrible? It might okay? Could 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: I handle it? Well? 65 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: What if it turns out well, well, I'd like it. 66 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: And so the first thing is we say what if loss. 67 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: The second thing is, wait, what if hardship? What if 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: I can't handle this. What if it's years of difficulty. 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: What if you know, I don't survive this. 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: What if I go through this and it's so painful 71 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: and instead say well, what if I grow through this? 72 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: What if it's not just hardship. What if it's challenge 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: and character building. What if it's strengthening me. What if 74 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: it's making me sharp? What if it's difficult but that's 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: the thing that makes me stand out later again with time. 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: And the last one is what if the outcome is bad? 77 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: Like you know you said to Graham, well, what if 78 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: there's what if we drive all this way and it's 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: a long line and you have to say what if 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: we drive all this way and it's a short line 81 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: and you have to change it? And flip is said earlier, 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: But also what if the outcome is good, but it's 83 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: good in five years? What if it's what I'm trying 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: to encourage people is a lot of the mindset is 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: the decision to start the journey, hoping and trusting and 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: having faith that things turn out well later, not on Monday. 87 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: Like you start lifting. If I start lifting tomorrow, I 88 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: don't look like him tomorrow. 89 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's like you have to 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: give yourself this time. And I think that's where a 91 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: lot of our pain and all of our mindset destroys 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: us is we want it so fast that we won't 93 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: begin the longer journeys that have the bigger payoffs. 94 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: We won't begin the longer journeys that have the bigger payoffs. Yeah, 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: because I'm so focused on what's right in front of me, 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: or I'm holding on to something that was And don't 97 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: you think a lot of times what keeps us from 98 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: seeing the way God is making is the way He 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: did it last time, right, And so we're holding on 100 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: to the way God used to do it. And I'll 101 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: give an example of this. 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: Or we thought he did it. Oh yeah, we can 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: go there too. Which one should I go with? Let's see, I. 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: Like yours better the way that we thought he did it. 105 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: We have so many misconceptions about what God needs to 106 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: use to bless us or what we need to move forward, right, Like, Okay, 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: I need a team, someone might say, and then I'll 108 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: start this thing. Or I need somebody to come along 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: and support me or back me or finance me, or 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: I need this perfect church, or we get all this 111 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: list of what we think we need for God to 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: do it right, and so we're holding on to that. 113 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Don't you think that a lot of what. 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: Keeps us from moving forward is what we won't let 115 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: go of, our idea of how it should be, our 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: idea of the way we thought God was going to make. 117 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: I thought i'd be married. 118 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: And I'm twenty five and I was planning to get 119 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: married at twenty two. 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's the way I thought God was going to make. 121 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: So I love what you said, like, not only what 122 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: God did in the past, but what I thought he 123 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: was supposed to do. And now I can't go forward. 124 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: So let's have a little therapeutic coaching. I know you're 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: not an ist, a psychologist, or a nutritionist. 126 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: You know, I know that you're a coach. 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: So let's coach somebody in faith who won't let go 128 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: of something that they thought was supposed to happen in 129 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: order to go forward into the way God is making. 130 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: They can't even see right now. 131 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think too often our vision becomes myopic on 132 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: what was, and we're operating from here. What we should 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: be operating from is our potential and into our future 134 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: and the best of who we are and so I 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: always tell people never limit your vision for who you 136 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: can be based on your past stories or your current circumstances. 137 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: Because every great successful person there was that part of 138 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: their story where they were broke down and out struggling, and. 139 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: They just didn't choose to live there. 140 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: They choose to work through it because they believe something 141 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: good would happen. And so I think the first part 142 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: is going where is your vision and where are you 143 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: operating from? Are you operating from the past time zone 144 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: or the current struggle time zone or are you living 145 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: into and being the best of who you can be 146 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: for the future you, which is what your book is about. Yeah, 147 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: I mean that's really powerful. Where you operating and where's 148 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: your vision? And then we also have to set up 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: these rhythms in our life where we choose to release 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: the tension and the disappointment. 151 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: I love that rhythms where we choose to release our 152 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: tension and disappointment. 153 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: So what are your rhythms of release? Write that down 154 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: in the comments. Rhythms of release? 155 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because what happens is, you know, inevitably stuff builds 156 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: up and we get disappointed, we get angry, we get hurt, 157 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: and if we never release that. It's like a pressure cooker, 158 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: and one day it will release, and it will release 159 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: in a pipe burst. It will release in an inappropriate 160 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: way for people. That's why therapy is so powerful. You 161 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: go every week, or you talk to a coach, you 162 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: talk to them every week. It's a place that you 163 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: go to release your thoughts and your concepts and your 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: frustrations and your plans. But it can't just be releasing. 165 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: It has to be what I always call you release 166 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: the tension of that, and you set the intention for 167 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: what's next. So I'm somebody I have to do this 168 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: every hour. I'm easily distracted. I'm so enthusiastic. 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I want to do this. I want to do this. 170 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: I want to do this, and I know this about myself. 171 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: So every hour, no matter what's happening, when I'm working 172 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: at my desk, every hour a little timer goes off. 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: I have a next to my computer, press it start. 174 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: Fifty five minutes, it stops, and I push back, close 175 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: my eyes and I just start breathing, and I release 176 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: the tension in my body and I just repeat this 177 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: little mantra to myself. 178 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Release Release, Release, Release. 179 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: And I might only do this for two four or 180 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: five minutes, just release, release, trying to release all thoughts, 181 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: all feelings, all emotions and tension of my bad Once 182 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a good place, open my 183 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: eyes and ask, Okay, what's my intention for this next hour? 184 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: And I learned that in helping a lot of people 185 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: through grief and trauma. You know, sometimes we think our 186 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 3: vision has to be this huge new thing, But when 187 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: you're really struggling, what's the intention of the next hour? 188 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going to go pick up the 189 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: kids and I'm going to share some love with them. 190 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: That's the intention for the next hour. 191 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't want to go pick up the 192 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: kids carrying all that stuff. So I always say, before 193 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: every significant interaction with somebody, if you can just release 194 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: the tension. 195 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: I teach people all the time. 196 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: If you're the one who goes to work and you 197 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 3: come home to your partner, your spouse with the kids, 198 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: when you pull up that house, tell you what, put 199 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: the chair back, close your eyes, do release meditation for 200 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: about five minutes, and say, what's my intention? Well, my 201 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: intention is go be a good dad, Go be a 202 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: good mom, Go be a good provider, Go be a 203 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: good servant, whatever it is, and these little moments that 204 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: you're just released all this frustration and this tension, because 205 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: people carry a lot of tension and they get lost 206 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: in the tension unless you release that. You know, you 207 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: can use the metaphor releasing baggage, but I don't like 208 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: that metaphors much, But just releasing the tension and setting 209 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: an intention. It's a constant recalibration into the future and 210 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: into your faith. And when you can recalibrate into my future, 211 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: into my faith, then I can survive this moment. 212 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: Now. 213 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: What I love about this is how you broke it 214 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: down and shrunk it because sometimes when we talk about 215 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: letting go of the past moving forward into the future, 216 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: which is a lot of what this mindset is about 217 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: with God, there's always a way by faith I will 218 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: find it. We set that finder so far out in 219 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: the future five years from now, I want to be here, 220 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: and sometimes what we really need to release happen five 221 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: minutes ago, not five years ago. 222 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: And I love that you use the word rhythm. 223 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: Because I like music so much that I thought, well, 224 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: that's brilliant, because I've thought of letting go of what 225 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: was as something I do maybe once like, I let 226 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: it go, God, how they hurt me? I let it 227 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: go God. But when you put it in the term 228 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: of a rhythm, that's not a rhythm unless. 229 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: I do that that right that that so letting it 230 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: go isn't letting it go unless I let it go. 231 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: Every time it comes back up, Yeah, the stuff that 232 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: your parents did or something that frustrates you, it's going 233 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: to come up over and over and you let it 234 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: go over and you got to let go over and over. 235 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: So this belief that one day you're, you know, completely 236 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: spiritually free of all pain and problems in the past. 237 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 3: Maybe some people have that, but for most people, the 238 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: difficulties of life happen on a recurring basis. There's a 239 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: rhythm to that too, And so when it comes up again, 240 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: Oh you know what, that's my old demons. They're fighting 241 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: me again. Oh you know what, that's that old behavior. 242 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 3: I used to do that because he taught me to 243 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: do that or she said that. And so as it 244 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: comes up again, it's an active release process. You're actively releasing. 245 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. If you just release it and 246 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 3: you don't set intention for what's next, you'll keep falling prey. 247 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: It'll keep pulling you back in. You have to set 248 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: an intention that is higher or part of something that 249 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: is higher, and that is where I met by. You 250 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: have to set intention to your future and your faith 251 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: over and over and over. It's like recalibrating back into Him, 252 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: back into spirit because these things often they're dispiriting, and 253 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: you got to connect to the spirit again and so 254 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: release the dispiriting things, tap back in to the spirited things. 255 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: And when you teach yourself to this over and over 256 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: and over again, you suddenly es I. 257 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: Got a pretty good mindset. 258 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because if our brain is operating off of the 259 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: neuropathways that have created our thought pattern, and our mindset 260 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: is to think a different way, then we can basically 261 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: say that seeing the way that God is making is 262 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: a product of thinking the way God thinks. 263 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: So we're possibly. 264 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: Looking at something right now that would be an opportunity, 265 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: or you could reconcile, or you could actually have love 266 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: in your life or supporting your life right and you're. 267 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Telling yourself you can't. 268 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: And the reason you're telling yourself that you can't right 269 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: now is because the way that you are thinking. I 270 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 2: like how we call God a waymaker, but there are 271 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: also God blockers in our life. I think about if 272 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: God is the waymaker, there are God blockers. Those are 273 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: the thoughts, the thoughts that cause us to say, well, 274 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: if it would have happened five years ago, I believe it, 275 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: but it would have happened by now if it was 276 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: going to happen, or things like that don't happen to me. 277 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: They don't happen for me, they happen for others. Or 278 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: maybe somebody told you, like I remember. 279 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: My dad was. 280 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: We both shared about our dads today and I learned 281 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: a little bit more about your dad, and I didn't 282 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: tell you much about my dad. We just realized our 283 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: dads both went to heaven when we were about the 284 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: same age, about thirty two or thirty three years old. 285 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: And you know my dad was. He was a passionate guy. 286 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: One time, somebody was telling me, you'll never be able 287 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: to go to college, you won't be able to afford it. 288 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: And they were saying, I didn't go to college, and 289 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: so you're not going to go to college, and you need. 290 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: To make peace with that. 291 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: It sounds like a weird thing for somebody to tell 292 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: a kid, right, and it kind of was. I was 293 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: only like ten or eleven whole, and I don't even 294 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: know why they were saying that, But my dad goes, 295 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,479 Speaker 2: shut your stupid mouth. 296 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: To this other person. And this is not probably recommended 297 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: for an advice. 298 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: He said, if I have to kill somebody to get 299 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: the money to send that boy to college, if he 300 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: makes good grades and wants to go to college, he'll 301 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: go to college. 302 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: And I got scholarship instead, so I went to college. 303 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: He didn't have to kill anybody. 304 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: The story doesn't have a weird ending, where then that's 305 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: the day my dad died. The point of it was 306 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: that he wasn't going to have me limited. We've talked 307 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: in the previous mindsets, and I want you to go 308 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: back and watch all of them, because we talked about it. 309 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm not stuck unless I stop. We talk about coming 310 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: from abundance in the mindset Christ is in me. 311 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm enough. But now we're moving deeper into this to say. 312 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: Are your thoughts the result of seeds that someone planted 313 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: and that someone wasn't God? And if they were, can 314 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: you go back by faith and uproot those through the process? Well, 315 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: what does that look like? I love Brendan's handles released 316 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: Attention set the intention, the intention of what, the intention 317 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: of your future, and your faith with God. There's always 318 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: a way by faith, I will find it. And maybe 319 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: that's why you haven't found it yet, right, because you're 320 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: not looking by faith, right, you're looking by sight. And 321 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: so I don't see it and I've never seen it, 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: and I've never been it and I've never done it. 323 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: But this mindset is by faith, I will find it. 324 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: So how does faith open up your eyes to possibilities. 325 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: That were there all along? And how do you tap 326 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: into it practically? 327 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: Because a lot of people will say, so, I'm just 328 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: supposed to what, lift my hands, I'm just supposed to 329 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: quote a Bible verse. 330 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: Well yeah, oh that's good. 331 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, But there's an actual way to activate faith too, 332 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: that's practical. 333 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you begin if you are looking backwards. 334 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: Look backwards and notice that all the big moves in 335 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: your life, and all the big random things that look 336 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: so random, they happened when you were in motion. You 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: were in motion, and serendipity happened, and you met this 338 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: person who gave you this lesson that helped open this 339 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: door later. It's like Steve Job said, you never connect 340 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: the dots until you look backwards. And I think that 341 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: when you do look backwards, you start to realizing, oh wait, wow, 342 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: God's grace is right there. 343 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: I never thought about that. Huh, God opened the door 344 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: right there. I didn't know that. 345 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: And what happens is you start to realize that all 346 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: these things have already opened for you. 347 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: But they always happened when you were in motion. 348 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: You made a decision, you went for it, you tried something, 349 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: and some big lesson or a failure or a pivotal 350 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: point happened. But they always happened when you're in motion. 351 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: And so when you trust in that, you say, interesting, 352 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: doors looking backwards, I can see doors open when I 353 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: was in motion. Let me get in motion now because 354 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: I want new doors to open. I want new doors 355 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: to open for me. So I have to be in motion. 356 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: I have this belief, I have this desire, I have 357 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: this stream move And you write so eloquently about this 358 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: in the book. It's like move because when you move, 359 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: the doors are open or you're gonna blast through them 360 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: and discover something. But for the most often, I think 361 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: that what people discover is Wow. When I get in motion, 362 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: amazing things start happening. These random people come into my life. Yeah, 363 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: that's when I met my wife, or that's when I 364 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: met this business partner, or that's when I got that 365 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: first sale that led to this sale, and they can 366 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: start connect that forward again with that trust and the 367 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: faith that will happen again. I think coming from that standpoint, 368 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: it's like it's evidence based. 369 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of. 370 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: Evidence that great things happen when you were in motion, 371 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of things when you were stopping yourself, 372 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: fearing yourself, you know, laying on the couch week after 373 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: a week and self pity. There wasn't none that happened. 374 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: Nothing was happening. You were in the seventeenth bag of Cheetos, 375 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: nothing happened. But when you got in motion, oh okay, 376 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: you got tired of sitting around and you tried something, 377 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: something open. So I think first stepping into that truly 378 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: the smallest motion. 379 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: Small motion. Get out the house today, Yeah, get the 380 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: shower today. 381 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: I didn't tell you this story, but I'll give it 382 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: to you now. And maybe I've shared it publicly, but 383 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: I don't think. 384 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: That I have. 385 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I should, though, when it was time 386 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 2: for me to write this book, and I felt like 387 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: you're either going to do this now and write this 388 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 2: because the message was coming alive in me. But I 389 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: had become pretty discouraged about the writing process, you know, 390 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: going from the spoken word, which I'm more comfortable with 391 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: and I have a lot of muscle memory with to 392 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: the written word and the way I would judge it, 393 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: and I would think this is not very literary. So 394 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: everything in me was telling me you're not an author. 395 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: You know, back to the identity Christ is in me. 396 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: I am enough arguing for your limitations. All of these 397 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: mindsets build on each other, right, which is really why 398 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: I want you to share every session and read the book. 399 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: But the book actually was completely stalled out in my mind. 400 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: I tried to write another book, and I remember the 401 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: day that I had a blank afternoon on my calendar 402 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: and something told me that today was the day to 403 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: set the book in motion. And when you said motion, 404 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: something jumped in me because I wanted to say this 405 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: for the person who is like I know that there's 406 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: something that God has put out in front of me 407 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: in my future, but I am completely paralyzed by what 408 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: I feel. And here's what I did that day. I 409 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: went in my closet, I put on a suit, I 410 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: never wear suits. But I put on a suit. 411 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: And I drove to my office, and I called my literary. 412 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Agent, and I stood there in a suit, not on 413 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: a zoom call, a phone call. So why am I 414 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: wearing a suit? To set it in motion? It was 415 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: my way of saying to myself, I mean business. And 416 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: this wasn't when I was twenty three, just starting out 417 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: in ministry. This is recently that I had to do 418 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: this for myself, yes, to let myself know we mean business. 419 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: And the series of meetings that were set up on 420 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: that day, standing there in a suit that was, by 421 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: the way, a little too tight because I hadn't put 422 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: it on in a couple of years, and as the 423 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: suit squeezed the blood out of. 424 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Me, the faith began to flow. 425 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: And one of the reasons that the book is here 426 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: today is because, like I said, instead of sitting and 427 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: waiting for God to deliver away or make it obvious, 428 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: I chose motion. And I think set it in motion 429 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: is a great thing to add to this mindset. It's 430 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: not just the mindset, but it's setting that mindset in 431 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: motion that even the smallest step of putting on a suit, 432 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: even the smallest step of setting up a call, even 433 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: the smallest step of flushing it and telling somebody to 434 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: ask you about that addiction and asking somebody to check 435 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: in on you. Did you set up the meeting with 436 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: the therapist that you've been saying you're going to do? 437 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: Whatever that move is a lot of times I think. 438 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: The paralysis of the entire path blocks us from the 439 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: next step. Yes, because if I'm looking that far out 440 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: to see, well, God's gonna make a way, and then 441 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna lead to this, and this and this, we 442 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: are essentially trying to calculate the next five ways that 443 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: God is gonna make when all we really need to 444 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: do is step through the door that's open right in 445 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: front of us. Thank you for joining us. 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