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Speaker 1: Welcome back, guys. It's good mom's bad choices. I'm Erica

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Speaker 1: and I'm Nila and happy friends, give me Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: We us late wes late posting. We're recording at six

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Speaker 1: forty nine pm. We're supposed to be out of friends

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Speaker 1: giving in thirty minutes, so we're gonna keep this episode

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Speaker 1: real brief.

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Speaker 2: Real brief because low Ki, we forgot it was Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and also we just cooked three dishes and were late

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Speaker 2: as hell.

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Speaker 1: Latest fuck. And you know, if you're a mom, you

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Speaker 1: know she just time just passes. Even if you're not

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Speaker 1: a mom, you don't, you know, shit just happens.

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Speaker 2: The government is fucking with the cock. I feel like

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Speaker 2: there's not twenty four hours in a day anymore. And

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Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out how they give it

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Speaker 2: a takeaway an how or whenever the fuck they feel

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Speaker 2: like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, didn't you know there was that thing passed where

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Speaker 1: like now, Daylight Savings is not no longer like a

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Speaker 1: thing here in California. It was like a vote that

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Speaker 1: you voted on. I saw that.

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Speaker 2: But my question is where are they putting and taking

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Speaker 2: the hour if there's twenty four of those motherfuckers in

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Speaker 2: a day. What like why I think it's another conspiracy

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Speaker 2: to be like it is, clearly because no one asks

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Speaker 2: enough question.

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Speaker 1: There's story time, where are they the box?

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Speaker 2: Why are they for the old white people?

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Speaker 1: It's the fountain of the damazons of you?

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Speaker 2: But literally we're like, how do you just like take

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Speaker 2: away and give an hour?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I can't think right now, how far do I care?

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Speaker 1: All I know is that there's not enough, and I'm

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Speaker 1: hungry and I want to go and eat.

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Speaker 2: So I was just munching on those I've made yams

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Speaker 2: and grains and stuffing is kind of bomb.

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Speaker 1: And I made mac and cheese. I have my own recipe,

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Speaker 1: but I was like, let me try something new that's

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Speaker 1: faster because usually I use like a bunch of different cheeses.

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Speaker 1: I could have just used the same cheese I did

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Speaker 1: your own way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't gonna saything because I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: your flow.

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Speaker 1: My mac and cheese I think might be bland. And

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Speaker 1: I know you'd like to do it your own life.

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Speaker 1: And I'm embarrassed, and I'm going to go to the

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Speaker 1: party and people are talking about my mac and cheese.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a black woman, you know, like mac

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Speaker 1: and cheese kind of like decides if you're a black or.

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Speaker 2: And right now, Erica, it is not my white as cheese.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is. I made greens.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mad kale greens like colored style, and Erica said,

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Speaker 2: I'm white for that. But my dad has been making

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Speaker 2: kale like that before. Kale was a big thing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: because I've never seen kale greens in my life.

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Speaker 1: It tastes that greens orry, No tastes the same. I guess,

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Speaker 1: I don't know find out in about thirty minutes I've

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Speaker 1: made it before. Okay, Well on, you know you ate

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Speaker 1: it when we made it with a quinwa. You made

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Speaker 1: it like that. Yes, but so greens usually has like

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Speaker 1: a turkey leg in it bit, you know turkey I

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Speaker 1: mean now, not always, not in my whole life. No,

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Speaker 1: greens don't have to have a turkey. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: what gives it all the flavor. That's not true. It does.

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Speaker 1: Mine are delicious, all right, whatever, anyway, fucking fight over

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Speaker 1: a green. We're gonna skip current events because I don't

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Speaker 1: I can't think of any No, there are there are like.

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Speaker 2: What like the dark story about that crazy man who

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Speaker 1: That's not new though, That's not okay.

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Speaker 2: What about that black judge who was like abusing his

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Speaker 2: wife and then he like knocked her head in to

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Speaker 2: He went to jail for nine months. He came home,

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Speaker 2: someone recommended to get a job. He got a job,

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, I know people, not in a racist way, but

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, we get enough ship we need

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Speaker 2: to like we need to do We're trying to clean

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Speaker 2: up herbage and love and hip hop is not helping.

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Speaker 1: God. I don't watch that anymore. It's sick. Do you

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Speaker 2: I watched the reunion and I don't really know what's

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Speaker 1: My tit is all the way out. Yeah. I stopped

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Speaker 1: and like I just stopped caring about who these people were.

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Speaker 1: There were just so many people that I'm like, who

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Speaker 1: Like Little Fizz is not even on the randoms from

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Speaker 1: like Instagram.

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Speaker 2: But rock Star is our rock stars, our friend. We

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Speaker 2: grew up with Leon, so I have been watching and

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Speaker 2: watch him, but that's his real personality. He's been acting

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Speaker 2: like he's a love of hip hop? So is he?

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Speaker 1: So? Is he like a star on Love and Hiphop?

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Speaker 1: Is he like I means he liked lowing? Is he

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Speaker 1: like can you define star? Like he like? Is he

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Speaker 1: like you know, like is he one of the main thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Now yeah, well you know him. He's drama. He's perfect

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Speaker 1: for love and hip hop.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Leon aka rock star personality is a

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Speaker 2: perfect fit for love and hip hop ever.

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Speaker 1: Since he was ten. Yeah, he's like Steve j. I

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Speaker 1: got asked hip hop you did oh with baby Daddy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you imagine me on Love and hip Hop?

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Speaker 2: I would have come on just to hang out.

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Speaker 1: Hi, we loove mable spot. I don't know what she's saying.

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Speaker 1: I know she was like, you're like all your like

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Speaker 1: advertising all your shirts.

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Speaker 2: I used to like aspire to be on a ghetto

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Speaker 2: like just to maintain that, like all of us are

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Speaker 1: You know what I wanted to be on growing up.

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Speaker 1: I had my whole storyline ready to real real world,

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Speaker 1: real world me too. I was gonna throw my dad

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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I'm about to use a celebrity and

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, my dad didn't do anything for me,

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Speaker 1: But here I am. I'm a singer and I'm really cute,

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Speaker 1: and send me to the real world.

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Speaker 2: At least real world was equal fuckery. Like all people,

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Speaker 2: there's usually only two black people in real world. Oh,

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Speaker 2: there's usually like there was only one episode and I

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Speaker 1: It was like Elton Choral, Wait which one was it?

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Speaker 2: Was it in New Orleans or was it in say

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Speaker 2: it was like Boston and Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: There was like it was like one year, I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing no damn real world in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: No, maybe it was Boston, but there was one year

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Speaker 2: there's three black people, two black guys and maybe two

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Speaker 1: But it was just like insanely.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, there's three black people. But now

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Speaker 2: eleven pop is just real world, more liquor, more black people,

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Speaker 1: Broad was still going on. I know, that's what's crazy. No,

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Speaker 1: it's a challenge, right. My friend just got accepted or something,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, should I do it? He's like, I

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Speaker 1: I thought he was kidding. He was a kidding. I

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Speaker 1: think should I do it? Yes? He was like I

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Speaker 1: my childhood dams are coming true.

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Speaker 2: When it came to Clark, when I came to my college,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, your your whole life, this is

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Speaker 2: what she waited for. And I didn't go because at

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Speaker 2: that point, thankfully, my my my goal, and.

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Speaker 1: No one ever wanted to do road rules No, because

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Speaker 1: time for that shit. Oh the challenge? No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: your lashes look really good, look very natural.

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Speaker 2: I told Admill, like, did you see Erica slashes?

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Speaker 1: She's like, no, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It was because they're natural, not like yours, those scripper ones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I haven't even noticed them on her because

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Speaker 1: has such a dark feature. Yeah, and she's been worrying

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Speaker 1: I couldn't had him with them. Actually she couldn't either.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's an addiction, like crap. I mean, in

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Speaker 1: other news, I saw that Donald I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he saw Donald Trump is praising Saudi Arabia. He was gonna, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, put sanctions on them for the killing

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Speaker 2: The journalist was American, right, No, he was Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 2: So why did he Why were we getting involved in that?

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Speaker 2: Because they killed him in Saudi Arabia. They killed him

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Speaker 2: in the end, not the US embassy, but the Saudi embassy.

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Speaker 1: He I think because he, like I can't remember, he

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Speaker 1: little pieces. It was just like some brutal ship that

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Speaker 1: was like totally like not legal, and so Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabia bailed Donald Trump out once, like at

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Speaker 1: a bankruptcy one. So I think they were like, motherfucker,

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Speaker 1: remember that time. We didn't forget No, don't call me

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Speaker 1: it's one in here.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, speaking of America involving themselves in foreign business or

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Speaker 2: in foreign things in general. H First of all, I

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Speaker 2: feel like whatever involvement we would have had in that situation,

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Speaker 2: there was some perks for us. The letter, there was

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Speaker 2: some perks for us, because we never get involved in

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Speaker 2: an inhumane shit in the first place unless it benefits us.

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Speaker 2: We only care about like foreign countries if there's something

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Speaker 2: they have that we want, resources, you know, oil gold. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: this brings us to tonight's topic.

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Speaker 1: Oh, very true, Thanksgiving and the fuckery we were taught

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Speaker 1: as children.

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Speaker 2: Yes, is this okay? Should we continue this fucked up

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Speaker 2: tradition or should we tell our kids to the fucking truth?

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Speaker 2: And what age are you gonna tell them the truth.

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Speaker 1: Right, So if this topic really, I mean obviously is

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Speaker 1: inspired because Thanksgiving is tomorrow, but also yesterday I picked

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Speaker 1: up my beautiful, beautiful black child from school.

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Speaker 2: No, look, do not study from the beginning. I was

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Speaker 2: over here, I did. I picked up some shit she's putting.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I'm gonna say, I really want me to

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Speaker 2: take her to school for two hours.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, she doesn't have she doesn't have school.

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Speaker 1: She didn't actually have school yesterday, be like, please bring her.

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Speaker 1: do they tell you today at school, babe? And she

435
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know. Luckily, they're like young and

436
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: they're like, god, I know, I feel lucky. I feel

437
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: like I caught it early. I feel like I caught

438
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: it early. I actually felt that way. I was like, Okay,

439
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: you know what, there's probably not much damage done yet.

440
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: But now you know that you have to actually like

441
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: look into the curriculum of the school.

442
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: And I can't even say damage. I say damage in

443
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: the way of just like not knowing your history of

444
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: like and why you're here. You know what I mean?

445
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, because I mean, guess it is damaging in

446
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 1: a way. I guess it is damaging.

447
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 2: It's I feel like it's I felt when I when

448
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: I got older and realized.

449
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: That the system was so so many.

450
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: Lies and so corrupt, I felt I felt like I

451
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: got cheated, Like I'm you're making me go to school.

452
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: It's so important. But in the and then when you're

453
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: coming home and telling me they're teaching me some shit

454
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: that's completely opposite of what they're saying, I'm like, why

455
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: am I going? They're stupid? So I think, yeah, I

456
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: think I think it sucks up the trust because you're

457
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: insisting I go in this system and I finish, and

458
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: I do this, and I do and I get good

459
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: grades and I go to college.

460
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: But on the contracts. My dad is probably.

461
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Equally not as equally as crazy as me, but he's

462
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 2: not religious. I think as he gotten older, he's been

463
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: less crazy. But he used to tell me like Jesus

464
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: is some white man somebody made up and everybody believed,

465
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: Like we didn't really do like a lot of holidays.

466
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: But it's just like there's a trust there, like in

467
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: the school system and your parents and people in general,

468
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: you know that they be honest and even as like

469
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 2: a black woman, and I look back at like what

470
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: I've been taught and the curriculum, even like slavery, like

471
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: I feel like it's always like a month out of

472
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: every like if that's the period we touched on, it's

473
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: like a month.

474
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: I've never had a month along slavery lesson.

475
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm two weeks and Black history always starts with slavery?

476
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: What does black like? Black history?

477
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: You and you African, if you're African American, you began

478
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: act slavery in as far as the curriculum tells you.

479
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: So we that's what we are introduced to in history.

480
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 2: And I think that is deeply that could be deeply

481
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: fuck some shut up subconsciously if that's where you start.

482
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: You know, I mean should I think of the Native

483
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: Americans too, and how badly they've been treated, you know,

484
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: like they are terribly just given these pieces of land

485
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: and there's like nothing on them, there's nothing like no,

486
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: it's just there's nothing on them. But there's casinos on them,

487
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: which you know, it's just like it just breeds bad shit, alcoholism.

488
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: There's someone someone needs so much drug use in the

489
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: in the reservations, in the Indian Native American community, they're

490
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: so poor. My cousin, she works with a reservation and

491
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: she's constantly needing like baby like baby onesies anything formula

492
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: like these people are were thrown away and I just don't.

493
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: I just it's just insane. How it's something that's not

494
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: talked about a lot a lot, and their land is

495
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: taking taken away now with pipelines and stuff. Yeah, the

496
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: lands we gave them were like never mind, actually mean,

497
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: we don't need that because it's actually on top of

498
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: some ship we actually need. So you know, it's just

499
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: it's just horrible, and I think that's what enrages me,

500
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: Like they've gotten away with it for well, then they

501
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: got and then I was just like Okay. After I left,

502
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I didn't even because it was

503
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: nap time and everyone was like quieting and laying down.

504
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: I didn't even see if any kids were wearing like

505
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: Native American outfits. I'm like, you know, like that probably

506
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: if I don't know, if I was in the Native

507
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: American outfit, I probably would have been like, are you

508
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: finding serious? H what have? What?

509
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: Have I cared more or less in either outfit? I

510
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: think I'm more. I don't even know.

511
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt, I don't know who knows.

512
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: I just think that the whole story is wrong. So

513
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: unless you're back there telling them the absolutely true, I mean,

514
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's odd, but yeah, the

515
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: Pilgrim thinks particularly is odd because in hindsight, you later

516
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: in history became our slave drivers. So yeah, no, it's

517
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: still rather racist.

518
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: There's also no evidence that Native Americans were invited to

519
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: this to this meal. Yeah, there's like a lot of

520
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: speculation about what this whole thing, how it all happened,

521
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: you know, what the day actually represents. You know, some

522
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: people say that, you know, it was basically in celebration

523
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: of a mass genocide of a tribe. So it's called

524
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: the Pequod tribe, and they were just they killed women, children, babies,

525
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: And that's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact

526
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: that they did that. It's just not it's not a

527
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: fact that that's that they.

528
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: Killed all the buffalo so that they would kill their

529
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: food supply.

530
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: They killed like thousands of buffalo. There's photographs.

531
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: It's just like buffalo stacked just dead because they're like

532
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: natural to the United States, we don't see a fucking

533
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: buffalo because they extinct them like they do.

534
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: And it's you, it's.

535
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: Just we have some dark history man's bloodland.

536
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: How do you how do you think you'll talk to

537
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Luna about stuff like this? Do you start? Are you

538
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna start now? And if you do out, what are

539
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: you gonna tell her? Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real.

540
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: Her span of shit is way more than I've ever

541
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: I didn't realize even if death, Like when she says

542
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: like it's gonna die, what does that mean.

543
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: I doesn't like to say the word death. I don't

544
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: even know where she learns that that's a bad word. Well,

545
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, I noticed too, which is this is odd.

546
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: But I realized that because we say Luna says all

547
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: the time, your phone's gonna die, your phone's gonna die.

548
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: And then in life, I mean, since we've discussed oh,

549
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson, she knows who Michael Jackson is, or

550
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: Bob Marley, like, oh, he died.

551
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: So I wonder how like the word relates.

552
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we say our prayer, she says a prayer night,

553
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: and she says, you know, and if I die before

554
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: I wake, she doesn't want to say that. She said,

555
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't want.

556
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: To say that.

557
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it either. I feel it's

558
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: kind of dark.

559
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: A lot of shit we do is dark, and we

560
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: don't realize it.

561
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: Until we change it. We say fly to my fly

562
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: before I wait. And even but if I'm like the

563
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: last part, I pray the Lord my soul to take

564
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: like low key, that's creepy.

565
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: It's creepy as fun we do some ship we're like,

566
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: we don't even realize, like even a funeral, it's so creepy.

567
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: That's all. We're black and look at a body. Well, yeah,

568
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: it's all ceremonial. When I when you watch those old

569
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: like those old movies in the back of the day,

570
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: a lot of those like well no, I mean, I

571
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: don't know if they come from you know, native stuff, right,

572
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, or some some people make their own weird,

573
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: fucked depth traditions too, and ceremonies.

574
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: But this is why it's important to go back and

575
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: listen to our episode that are Halloween episodes. Yes you

576
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: sacrificed what because we touch on these things and now

577
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: we're seeing how much it really relates.

578
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will be. I am celebrating I say, Thanksgiving,

579
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: Indigenous People's say, oh yeah, Indigenous People's Day, and this

580
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: year I'm looking at it and in the light of that,

581
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: it's a celebration of bringing people together but also acknowledging,

582
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, and warning the people that lost. I don't.

583
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like I just feel

584
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: weird about the Thanksgiving I'm trying to like rationalize it

585
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: in my mind, like I'm going to go to my parents' Thanksgiving,

586
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: but next year maybe I won't have Thanksgiving.

587
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I don't know. I go back

588
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: and forth. Like I said, I used to think I

589
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: was gonna fast and don't do that. But it's like

590
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: we're just eating dinner, and you know, it's just dinner.

591
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: I know, or at least I think at least it's

592
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: acknowledge it in the prayer tomorrow, you know, and let's

593
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: keep us remember while we enjoyed this dinner together that

594
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: people sacrificed and you know.

595
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: Were killed, Yeah, brutally. Yeah, so we can sit here

596
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: and have this meal. Were not really so we could

597
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: because we probably would have been sitting here and having

598
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: this meal anyway. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like

599
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: people were going to find the land. It's just how

600
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: it was done. All the diseases that were brought as well,

601
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: which is a whole other thing. It's just those colonizers.

602
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: They will do it. They'll kill you. They'll kill you,

603
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: they'll try and kill you.

604
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: I think the most beautiful part of it all though,

605
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: is like there's so many attempted genocides, and I'm sure

606
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: some successful, but like they're still Native Americans. There's still

607
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: people practicing their rituals. There's still black people like you

608
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: could are, there's still Jewish people like you can try

609
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: and take some people away, but then they multiply.

610
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: True. Well, I don't know, I don't feel like Native Americans,

611
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of Native people lost their lives and

612
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: there's not as many as there would be.

613
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: Oh hell no, there's not as many as there would be.

614
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: There should be more of them than they have everybody else. Right,

615
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: they're here first, unless you're brutally murdered by disgusting.

616
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: Settler Pilgrims separatists, separatist but anyway, Yeah, so I'm gonna wait,

617
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: it's thanks but thanksga. Thing is not religiously feeled, right,

618
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: Is this like a Christian thing? Kind of right? Because

619
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: the Pilgrims started, the Pilgrims were Christian. Well, I think

620
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: that it's not a No, it's not really a religious holiday.

621
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's more of a spiritual holiday. It's an

622
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: American holiday. Yeah, it's an American holiday. And it only

623
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: became a holiday because Abraham Lincoln was like, this is look,

624
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: we're making this a holiday Abraham link. It was like, look,

625
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: I got a few things, like I got to check

626
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: off checklist before I'm done. Being giving is important. I'm

627
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna tell people I freed the slaves Thanksgiving check No

628
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: knowing for all the wonderful things I've said, all the

629
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: proclamations I've written.

630
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: And.

631
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm so high, and I'm like, are we dumb? Did

632
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: we not learn anything? Did we not read all these

633
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: fucking googles? This is the last historical episode.

634
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: Just know it's bad. It's not good, it's not right now,

635
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: we're still recording. Bye, we'll be okay, we'll be back.

636
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: We'll be what's coming in one second. Okay, we don't

637
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: have any I hate it all. Go sit down the basket. Okay,

638
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: this is this is This is over. Okay, episode over.

639
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: Sorry for the boring ass episode. We'll do better next time.

640
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have ship to do too, so go

641
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. Okay.

642
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: Happy Indigenous People's Day.

643
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Happy Indigenous people.

644
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: Don't get to include those people in your prayers.

645
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe have a moment tomorrow, whether it's in the

646
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: morning or during your meal or just privately in a corner.

647
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, in the car on the way. Just acknowledge

648
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: and acknowledge the Native Americans and why this why this

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Speaker 1: holiday is even here, which is supposed to be at

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Speaker 1: the root of it about you know, fruitfulness and family

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Speaker 1: and gratitude. So I hope you guys enjoy that. If

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Speaker 1: you're celebrating friends, Indigenous Day Flash, friends Giving. Also tell

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Speaker 1: your kids the truth. The truth is important.

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Speaker 2: Bye okay, and they're gonna say bye. Thanks for tuning

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Speaker 2: into our podcast.

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Speaker 1: What's our podcast called? Guys? Good?

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Speaker 2: Could I love that way?

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Speaker 1: Wonderful? Perfect? Let me say, let me try again. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's stay.

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Speaker 2: Let's pretend I could add my way what you're gonna

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Speaker 2: say if I ever walk away?

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Speaker 1: Let's play lets betere you could treat me, say maybe

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Speaker 1: you won't scare me, maybe you would care, you know.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, let's stick, go out

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Speaker 2: And things are thought