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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Podcast. I'm Scott Coleman and I am joined

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Speaker 1: on this Sunday afternoon by the Great Stephen Tolbert. Because

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Speaker 1: our dear friend and co host Brad Rowland is getting

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Speaker 1: as far away from the Atlanta Braves as he can.

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Speaker 1: He is on an airplane flying to Vegas. So when

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Speaker 1: you hear about a man from the Atlanta area winning

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars in penny slots, we will all know

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Speaker 1: who it is. Stephen. How are we? Of course, the

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Speaker 1: Braves coming off of sweep, I don't think the vibes

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Speaker 1: are good at all. But how are we doing on

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Speaker 1: this Sunday afternoon?

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Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The Braves have the worst records batter record relative to

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Speaker 3: five hundred as they've had in nine years, eight years.

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Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen. They are eleven games under. They haven't been

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Speaker 3: eleven games under since the last day of the twenty

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Speaker 3: seventeen season, and so that's where we are right now. Alexandoppolos,

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Speaker 3: Ronald Kuna Junior, Austin Riley, none of them have ever

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Speaker 3: seen a team this bad since they've been in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And so that's where we are. And I don't listen.

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Speaker 3: I think we've all pretty much set it at this point.

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Speaker 3: When Sale and Schwallabach went down, the hope kind of.

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Speaker 2: Faded and the bad.

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Speaker 3: The way the Braids have played since then has only

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Speaker 3: hammered home the fact that this season is effectively over.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they they had this home stand against a

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Speaker 3: couple of teams that they could get right against, and

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Speaker 3: it was just an absolute does that I mean what

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Speaker 3: they go too? And yeah, and then two and seven

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Speaker 3: in the whole homestand if you had in the Phillies series,

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Speaker 3: just a brutal I mean just a brutal homestand and

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Speaker 3: you know, the conversations around this team are about to

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Speaker 3: drastically change from what we ever thought we were going

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Speaker 3: to be talking about in March. You know, at the

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Speaker 3: All Star break, the conversations are now about to be

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Speaker 1: So with the loss today, the Atlanta Braves are thirty

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Speaker 1: nine and fifty. And let me ask you this, Steven,

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Speaker 1: just let's transport back to opening day and I told

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Speaker 1: you on fourth of July weekend the Atlanta Braves would

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Speaker 1: have a better odds percentage of getting the number one

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Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft lottery for next summer's draft

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Speaker 1: than they would have making the postseason. That feels impossible.

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Speaker 1: There was so much hope and optimism coming into the year.

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Speaker 1: The team was healthier. Maybe they had a quiet offseason,

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Speaker 1: but on paper, this was still a really strong roster.

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Speaker 1: The computers like the Braves. Vegas liked the Brave. We

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Speaker 1: like the Braves. And they're legitimately one of the five

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Speaker 1: or six worst teams in baseball. And they are another

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Speaker 1: bad week away from having a better record than the

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Speaker 1: Rockies and the White Sox. And that's it. That is shocking,

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Speaker 1: even in your most pessimistic dreams. That is a shocking

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Speaker 1: thing to come out of my mouth in the first

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Speaker 3: And listen before before the revisionists get ahold of it,

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure we're abundantly clear about something.

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Speaker 1: This team was bad.

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Speaker 3: Before Sale and Schwollenbach got hurt, Like there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: people to tell you, well, they lost their rotation, so

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Speaker 3: of course they're bad. They were bad when they had Sale,

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Speaker 3: Schwellenbach and Strider pitching every fifth day. They were bad

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Speaker 3: with a Cunya. They were bad without a Cunya. They

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Speaker 3: were bad with Profar, they're bad without pro I tweeted

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Speaker 3: this the other day, like their consistency in being bad

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Speaker 3: is actually stunning. Like it doesn't actually matter what star

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Speaker 2: They're just bad.

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Speaker 3: And that's the part like a Kuny and Stryder came

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Speaker 3: like it's actually stunning, And no, I never in a

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Speaker 3: I mean to be to the point now where you're out,

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Speaker 3: you're one hundre percent Ryde. They have a much better

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Speaker 3: chance of being the number one pick in the draft

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Speaker 3: next summer. People get it confused. I want to make

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Speaker 3: sure we're clear. It's next summer, right, there's another there's

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Speaker 3: a draft happening in like a week. But if the

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Speaker 3: they'll have a high pick in next year's draft. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean the fact that they're closer to the number

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Speaker 3: a format where forty percent.

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Speaker 2: Of baseball makes the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They're like thirteenth in National League, got a fifteen team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy. They're the Marlins are like two

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Speaker 1: Right now, which is I mean, yeah, yeah, that's insane,

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Speaker 1: it is. And we think about where this team was

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Speaker 1: I think they have three wins, four wins since then,

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Speaker 1: five wins, whatever it is. They've been maybe the worst

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Speaker 1: They beat the Red Sox two out of three. They

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Speaker 1: all year, which was the best mark they had. Think

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Speaker 1: about everything that's happened since that Boston series month and

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Speaker 1: were a week away they win that Sunday game in Fenway,

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Speaker 1: the next week they would get Strider back, and then

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Speaker 1: oh to seven hole, Kunya Strider, two of the most

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Speaker 1: talented human beings on the Earth. And since then, I believe,

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Speaker 1: other than the Rockies and the Pirates, they have the

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Speaker 3: And Acunya looking incredible for ninety percent of the time

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Speaker 3: it's not like those dudes came back and were just

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Speaker 3: you know, terrible. But what happened is the rest of

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Speaker 3: the offense, you go back to like June first, it's

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Speaker 3: I want to give bald On his credit, and everybody

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Speaker 3: I mean, how bad some of these Ozzie Albis Oh,

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Speaker 1: It hurts my heart. He his career is on life

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Speaker 3: You can't hit lefties anymore, I mean that was I mean,

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Speaker 3: It's smashing lefties. He can't even He's got like a

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Speaker 3: Austin Riley's had this really weird year. I cannot figure

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Speaker 3: so yeah, the offense just collapsed. And even with strong pitching,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Grant Holmes, We're gonna talk about Grant Holmes

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Speaker 3: another great start today. Like I said, Strider's pitched better

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Speaker 3: before Sale and Schwallenbach went down. They were both pitching

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Speaker 3: And it just that's hard to that's hard to reconcile,

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Speaker 1: It feels like this organization and franchise as a whole,

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Speaker 1: is it a crossroads? Yeah, because sure last year was

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Speaker 1: last year, eighty nine wins in a postseason appearance for

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Speaker 1: a totally fine outcome. There are teams that would kill

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Speaker 1: everything that was wrong a year ago with the offense

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Speaker 1: there's just there's no out. There's no way to overcome

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Speaker 1: It feels like this offseason. I don't think it's an

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Speaker 3: Well, the problem is they built this core to hit,

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Speaker 3: Like they signed all of their position players to long

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Speaker 3: just a one season Like it'd be different if the

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Speaker 3: What the critical part of what's happening right now is

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Speaker 3: And that's where you have to ask some real tough questions,

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Speaker 3: Like you just said, they've had a I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: and the offense is the thing that's failing night after night,

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Speaker 3: day after day. Again today they lost a two to

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Speaker 2: So that's where you really have to be.

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Speaker 3: Honest with yourself if you're Alex, like, the thing we

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Speaker 3: way too much.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I think that, I mean, I think it

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Speaker 3: is a I think it is a crossroads. I think

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Speaker 3: it is a reckoning type of offseason. Listen, it's not

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Speaker 3: gonna be easy. These long term contracts offer very little flexibility,

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Speaker 3: the Hawks, you know, term, but very little optionality, like

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Speaker 3: they just don't. It's gonna be tough and they could

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Speaker 3: probably have to eat some money if they want to

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Speaker 3: get off some of these and Alex has steadfastly said

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Speaker 3: with the picks, which is crucial the way the MLB

433
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Speaker 3: draft is set up. This is a no brainer. It

434
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Speaker 3: was already a no brainer. Now it's even more of

435
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Speaker 3: a no braner. You have to play Drake Baldwin eighty

436
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 3: five ninety percent of the time. And if it's that

437
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: means sitting Ozuna, if that means trading Ozuna, if that

438
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Speaker 3: means I ling Ozuna, whatever, we got to start looking

439
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: past twenty twenty five, and you know, Drake Baldwin is

440
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Speaker 3: a much bigger part of twenty twenty six and beyond

441
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Speaker 3: than Marcelo Zuna is. So we got to start looking

442
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Speaker 3: that direction and adding the draft pick.

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Speaker 2: This is a no brainer.

444
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Speaker 1: And not only that, but getting Sean Murphy and this

445
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Speaker 1: home run heater that he's on into the lineup is

446
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Speaker 1: also like a win now thing. Yeah, Like the Braves'

447
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: best chance to win on any given night is to

448
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: run into a three or or a Grand Slam. Yeah,

449
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: that is their only chance. God knows.

450
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Speaker 2: Still they still can't hit with runners in scoring positions.

451
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Speaker 1: Yes, God knows. This team is not stringing together four

452
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Speaker 1: or five hits inside the park in an inning. I

453
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Speaker 1: mean you probably count on two hands the number of

454
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Speaker 1: times that has happened through eighty five games this season.

455
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Speaker 1: So get Murphy in the lineup, especially the way he's

456
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Speaker 1: been launching the ball. And also if and I don't

457
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Speaker 1: think ultimately they're going to but if the Braves decide

458
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Speaker 1: to address the rest of the roster that they're gonna

459
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Speaker 1: trade Sean Murphy this offseason, doesn't it Behooview to have

460
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Speaker 1: the best season imaginable for Murphy to put up a

461
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Speaker 1: thirty home run season to show the power that teams

462
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Speaker 1: would covet to showcase him behind the plate where he's

463
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: so good. It just it feels like the obvious both

464
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Speaker 1: win now and also big picture. And I'm not saying

465
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Speaker 1: they're necessarily going to trade Murphy because that would be,

466
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Speaker 1: as we've talked about endlessly on the show, a very

467
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Speaker 1: drastic change for the organization. But it just played. The

468
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Speaker 1: catchers have to play Baldwin for all those reasons, need

469
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Speaker 1: to play Murphy. It's hard to basically play Ozuna. And

470
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Speaker 1: if that means you have to do whatever you have

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Speaker 1: to do, then it seems worthwhile at this point in

472
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Speaker 1: a lost season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I'm curious to see, is, like

474
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Speaker 3: we've called it on this show, most people who watch

475
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Speaker 3: the team, cover the team have pretty much resigned themselves

476
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Speaker 3: to this season is over. How close is the organization

477
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Speaker 3: to like really looking you start looking at twenty twenty

478
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Speaker 3: six because Alex, you know, Alex famously did that radio

479
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 3: interview like three weeks ago go and said we're not selling.

480
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: He was very defiant about it, but that was before

481
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Speaker 3: sale got hurt, and that was before Schwellenbach got hurt

482
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Speaker 3: and that was before the offense continue to play like

483
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Speaker 3: crap even with Profar back.

484
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they wanted to see what the offense would

485
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Speaker 2: look like when.

486
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Speaker 3: Profar got back. Still exact same, Like, at what point

487
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Speaker 3: do they call it? Because you know, if you know

488
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Speaker 3: you're not going to get much for Marsale at the

489
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Speaker 3: trade deadline anyways, put him on the al like I,

490
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Speaker 3: or go ahead and let him have the surgery and

491
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Speaker 3: he's out for the year and then you can just

492
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Speaker 3: play Baldwin and Murphy call up a third catcher, so

493
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Speaker 3: you're not worried about that, And like you said, I'm

494
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Speaker 3: not so sure it's not just better for now anyways,

495
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Speaker 3: with Murphy and Baldwin both in the lineup, it's it's

496
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Speaker 3: probably just the best case scenario all the way around.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's going to be interesting to me over

498
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Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks. It's like, how close is

499
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Speaker 3: this organization to just understanding that this is probably over.

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Speaker 1: To be a fly on the wall. Yeah, in those

501
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Speaker 1: offices during the All Star break and kind of five

502
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Speaker 1: days for front offices to reset and have some discussions,

503
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Speaker 1: and of course the trade deadline is less than four

504
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Speaker 1: weeks away at this point, So it would be I

505
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Speaker 1: would love like if.

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Speaker 3: You were Marcel's representation, when you tell him to have

507
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Speaker 3: the surgery now, Yes, when you.

508
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Speaker 1: Have your surgery, now, you could sell it. Hey, he

509
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: was an incredible hitter for two and a half years.

510
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Speaker 1: He hurt his hip, has the surgery, he can work

511
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Speaker 1: out for teams, He's gonna sign he'll be back to normal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you haven't them, if you haven't the

513
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Speaker 3: off season, the teams aren't even going to be able

514
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Speaker 3: to see you, like hitting the cage or you know,

515
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Speaker 3: do workouts like I would have it. There's not a

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Speaker 3: chance in hell if I was in charge of Marcello's

517
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Speaker 3: in his future, I would let him play another day

518
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Speaker 3: of this season.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, no, you're you're right for Marcel's benefit,

520
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: not just the Braves. But yes, indeed, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if it comes down that marcell is hitting the

522
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Speaker 1: iel one of these days, I don't think a soul

523
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Speaker 1: All right, Stephen, we are back and let's just kind

552
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Speaker 1: of breeze through a couple of these here. Let's again.

553
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: I think you and I did the same thing on

554
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Speaker 1: our last show. We don't have to do twenty minutes here.

555
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Speaker 1: But Grant Holmes terrific start on Sunday as he has

556
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Speaker 1: given the Braves for two months now. Now eleven starts

557
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Speaker 1: in a row where Grant Holmes has given up three

558
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Speaker 1: runs or less and the Braves are three and eight

559
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Speaker 1: in those games. Just my numbing. I don't know what

560
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: else to say. Good on Grand Holmes. Just maybe the

561
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: best positive, I guess healthy story of this season so

562
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Speaker 1: far is Grant Holmes.

563
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Holmes has been the Schwellobach story from

564
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Speaker 3: last year. Right, It's like this guy kind of came

565
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Speaker 3: out of nowhere. And I've said it before. I certainly

566
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: had my doubts about Grand Holmes.

567
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Speaker 2: I thought he was a reliever.

568
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Speaker 3: The swing and miss stuff is probably the biggest surprise.

569
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Speaker 3: It's not just like success, but it's like the type

570
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Speaker 3: of success that is sustainable and repeatable. It's not just

571
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Speaker 3: built on bat at ball loock. It's not just built

572
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Speaker 3: on you know, the opponents are running a one to

573
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Speaker 3: fifty babbit against him this year, and so everything looks

574
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Speaker 3: better like it's strikeouts, Like the stuff is just swing

575
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: and miss stuff. And that's that's the most exciting part

576
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Speaker 3: because it's now you can kind of believe in it

577
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Speaker 3: in the future. It's not just this year thing. And

578
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Speaker 3: that's that's what is That's what was exciting about Schwalla

579
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Speaker 3: Bach too, is he was getting the strikeouts that you

580
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Speaker 3: need to be a sustainably really good starting pitcher. And yeah,

581
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: just another example today of just you know, gave the

582
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: Braves every chance in the world to win that game.

583
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Speaker 3: Brave should have won that game if the offense is decent.

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Speaker 3: And that's you know, that's the fiftieth time we've said

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Speaker 3: that this year.

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Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, stop me if you have

587
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Speaker 1: said these words before. But yeah, Saturday's game was a

588
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Speaker 1: week one because there was actually some offense. I didn't

589
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Speaker 1: know what to make of it. I admittedly did not

590
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Speaker 1: catch a pitch of Saturday's game, but I saw they

591
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Speaker 1: scored six runs and it was like, Wow, what's gotten

592
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: into the water down in Atlanta. Maybe you always say

593
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Speaker 1: the space jam the magic water. Maybe they got some

594
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Speaker 1: of that in the cooler on Saturday afternoon. So Braves

595
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Speaker 1: did score six runs, they gave up nine runs, which

596
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Speaker 1: is part of the course these days. And the one

597
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Speaker 1: interesting note that I think we both kind of caught

598
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Speaker 1: was Aaron Bummer served as the opener and it was

599
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Speaker 1: a bullpen game for the Braves, and afterwards Brian Snicker

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Speaker 1: said pretty candidly with the media that they could not

601
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Speaker 1: do another bullpen game, or he didn't think they could

602
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Speaker 1: do another bullpen game. Those were I'm sure Snit is frustrated.

603
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Speaker 1: I'm sure every single person who is employed by the

604
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Speaker 1: Braves is frustrated. But just kind of interesting comments. I

605
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Speaker 1: don't know if there was anything more to it, or

606
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Speaker 1: if he was just pissed after losing again, but it

607
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Speaker 1: kind of felt like a little bit of a plea

608
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Speaker 1: or a jab at the front office to get him

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Speaker 1: somebody who can start games so he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: burn his bullpen for ten innings. I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm reading too much into this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you missed the game, and I don't

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Speaker 3: blame anybody for not watching the games. But Aaron Bummer

614
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Speaker 3: was the opener, and he looked good for two innings,

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Speaker 3: and Aaron Bummer has not pitched more than two innings

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Speaker 3: at any point this year. And he was at like

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Speaker 3: forty thirty five forty pitches something like that, but he

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Speaker 3: looked good.

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Speaker 2: He'd struck out.

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Speaker 3: I think four in a row at one point in

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Speaker 3: those two innings, and so everybody just kind of assumed

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Speaker 3: he was done. And then he came back out for

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Speaker 3: a third inning and he got lit up, and the

624
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Speaker 3: Braves were already ahead two nothing or three nothing at

625
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Speaker 3: that point, I can't remember. And the Orioles immediately scored

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Speaker 3: three runs off Aaron Bummer and then he got taken out.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, the joke online was, yeah, of

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Speaker 3: course it doesn't want to do bullpen games. He sucks

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Speaker 3: it managing them. And listen, I think Brian Snicker overall

630
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Speaker 3: catches too much blame for a lot of stuff. He

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Speaker 3: is a He is not good at managing a bullpen game.

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Speaker 3: That is one hundred percent fair. I think his biggest

633
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Speaker 3: blind spot ever since he's been the manager in any

634
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Speaker 3: situation is he is usually three four five batters too

635
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Speaker 3: slow in taking a picture out. And this is not

636
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Speaker 3: just in bullpen games. It's his starters. This is Bryce

637
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Speaker 3: Elder in a playoff game. Pick your pick your spot, Brian,

638
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: Brian Snicker is too conservative with leaving his starters or

639
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Speaker 3: leaving any pitcher in a game. And when you're running

640
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Speaker 3: a bullpen game, that's especially a problem because the whole

641
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: you know, you're it's a numbers game. You're trying to

642
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Speaker 3: make sure that every hitter you know doesn't see a

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Speaker 3: pitcher more than once. And when he let Bummer face

644
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Speaker 3: the top of the order a second time, that's where

645
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: he got burned. And so yeah, after the game when

646
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Speaker 3: he said that, it was funny one because he's like,

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Speaker 3: we can't do bullpen games, and everybody's like, well, no,

648
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Speaker 3: you can't do bullpen games. Like the rest of the

649
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: league can do a bullpen game just fine. Brian Snicker struggles.

650
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I agree with you. I think that

651
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: was I think he was talking to Alex there and listen,

652
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: I've been surprised that the brace of last Sale and

653
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: Schwalenbach and have not added like a just a like

654
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: any sort of starting pitcher, like they called up a

655
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: twenty year old kid.

656
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: That's it. Great, that's the only somebody there's veterans out there,

657
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: somebody who's pitching for a Triple A team and hasn't

658
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: opt out in their minor league deal.

659
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't done anything, which is like, I mean,

660
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: maybe they're done, Like maybe they are done. Maybe that's

661
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: the indication they're done. But like just a body to

662
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: get through innings, like yep, or give you know, allow

663
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: Flintest to go back to Triple A, which is where

664
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: he should have been a while ago. Like, I'm stunned

665
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: they haven't done anything. And I think I think Snit

666
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: is a little I think he's probably a little peeved

667
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: that they haven't, like they haven't given him anything to

668
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: you know, start a game with. And he is not

669
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: a listen, he doesn't like bullpen games. He is a

670
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: very much a traditional manager. He wants the starter to

671
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: go six seven innings, two guys out of the bullpen

672
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: each night, and that's it. Like he's a set it

673
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: and forget it manager, not and outside the box kind

674
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: of manager. So I get it, but I did think

675
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: it was a little bit of a veiled shot at

676
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Speaker 3: the front office.

677
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is almost certainly Brian Snicker's final year

678
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: managing the team before he retires. And I'm sure, I mean,

679
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: obviously every manager wants to go out on top. Yeah,

680
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: no one wants to deal with this. I mean, at

681
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: least you and I and the fans and people listening

682
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: can can click the button on the TV remote and

683
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: stop watching or stop listening on the radio or doing

684
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: whatever it is you do. Snid's sitting there and he's

685
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: watching this team lose basically the same game every night,

686
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: and on the rare chance they do score, it feels

687
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: like that is the night the bullpen randomly implodes and

688
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: they lose like they did on Saturday and lost nine

689
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: to six and ten inox. It's just it has been

690
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: a trying year and we'll see I do. I agree wholeheartedly.

691
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Kyle Gibson or pick a again. Man. There

692
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: are always veterans in their thirties pitching for a Triple

693
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: A team, similar to like what James McCann was doing

694
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: as a catcher. All of a sudden, the Diamondbacks lost

695
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: both of their catcher's injury. McCann leaves any signs that

696
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: is not an uncommon thing, and I mean, they have

697
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: to find somebody to eat innings. And at some point

698
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: we kind of talked around this, but Strider's not going

699
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: to go balls to the wall until September thirtieth. Grant

700
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Holmes is gonna fly past his career high in innings

701
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: in about another month. They're not going to push Holmes

702
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: for two hundred innings or they they better freaking not.

703
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: You know it, but you have to have somebody start,

704
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: and you have to have somebody cover nine innings six

705
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: or seven days a week. And I don't know, it's

706
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: it's weird, isn't this aren't the feelings around the organization

707
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: just weird right now on the whole well, and it started.

708
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: It started in the off season.

709
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Speaker 3: We're like nobody could figure it out, Like why aren't

710
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: they addressing the bullpen? Like you know, we were all

711
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: like just scratching our like I don't know if it's

712
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: a money thing, Like we've all just kind of given

713
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: out these theories like Alex just like randomly had his

714
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: budget cut, because that's the only way we can explain it.

715
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: And maybe that has something to do one that haven't

716
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: made a move, like maybe Alex literally doesn't have another

717
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: dime to spend on this roster and so like he

718
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: can't go trade or sign a straw. I don't know,

719
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: but it has been weird.

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Speaker 2: I mean it has.

721
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Speaker 3: Been like for a guy for a front office that

722
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: has consistently like preached about having depth, like they did

723
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: nothing to address depth in their rotation or in their bullpen.

724
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: They have not done anything to address the depth since

725
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: the injuries.

726
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: Like it is weird. It is so weird and I

727
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: can't explain it.

728
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: And just other weird stuff too, like the kimberl Yeah debacle. Yeah,

729
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: what are they doing? What we talked about Ozuna?

730
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: What are the Azuna stuff?

731
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly an injured player who is killing your team.

732
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: He's killing his chance at getting a contrary and they're

733
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: running him out there every single day for a month

734
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: and a half before he finally got it. I don't know.

735
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Weird times. Uh, let's let's move on before we turn

736
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Speaker 1: this into a three hour just you and me firing

737
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: back and forth, because I think we would maybe be therapeutic,

738
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Speaker 1: you know, unless there was something from the weekend. Oh

739
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: one item rice selling glacias looks really good right now? Yeah,

740
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: we talked about Aaron Bummer looked really good for two

741
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: innings on Saturday. Those are not small things. I think

742
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Speaker 1: if I had to bet money on one player to

743
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: be traded in the next month, I would almost certainly

744
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: say it's going to be i Gglacias. He looks like

745
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: his normal self basically since the start of June stopped

746
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: during that slider that was getting crushed. Iglcius looks good

747
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: and that's you know, yeah, they're not getting Mike Trout

748
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: as a prospect in exchange for him in a trade,

749
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: but hey, we'll take it even if it's a B tier,

750
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, top two hundred type infield prospect. Why not

751
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: you know, why not get some asssets if you can

752
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: in a lost season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this will be a longer discussion as we

754
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: get closer, but I think the Braves need to aggressively

755
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: shop some of these relievers that are having good gears.

756
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: And for a couple of reasons.

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00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: One, you know, you take Aaron Bummer erin brum is

758
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: gonna make ten million dollars next year, and Aaron Bummer

759
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: they don't even use Aaron Bummer high leverage. Are you

760
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: really going to have a non high leverage reliever make

761
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: ten million dollars next year when you already clearly have

762
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: budgetary issues. That doesn't sound like a great idea to me.

763
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: But even like Pierce Johnson, Rossio Gleasias, if you have

764
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: a reliever who is both good and healthy, the odds

765
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: of him being both good and healthy again next year

766
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 3: are very low. That's just relievers, and the Braves learned

767
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 3: that first hand with a Glacias and Jamenez this year.

768
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: You know, last year to this year. And if you

769
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: can get something for Pierce Johnson and listen, there's not

770
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of sellers. It's that's one good

771
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: thing about being a bad team right now is that

772
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: there's like twenty four buyers and there's like six sellers,

773
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: and so you can probably get something decent. And everybody's

774
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: looking for more bullpen help. Everybody's looking for more pitching,

775
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: especially as you move into the playoffs. Playoffs are where

776
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: bullpen's become a thousand times more important. And so I

777
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: think you can get something legitimate for Pierce Johnson, and

778
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: I think you can get something legitimate for Aaron Bummer.

779
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: I think you can get something at least decent for

780
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: Rossio Iglesias. It would also save you some money, which

781
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: apparently is a critical factor here because the Braves clearly

782
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: have no money because you don't have to pay those

783
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: guys salaries for the last two months of the season.

784
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Speaker 2: So that's what I would be doing. And I listen.

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: I know Alex said they're not selling anybody that's got

786
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: multiple years of control, and both Bummer and Pierce Johnson

787
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: have multiple years of control, So you would have to

788
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: go back on what he said. But you know, you

789
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: got to be honest about where you are and the

790
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: reality of it, and the reality of this team stinks,

791
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: and they but they've got good relievers, and good relievers

792
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: are valuable this time of year, and I would trade them.

793
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: And and you know, on top of the fact that

794
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: the farm system sucks like it just does. Farm system sucks,

795
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: and it sucked for a long time. And they have

796
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: not drafted well. That's a whole separate conversation that they

797
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: go back and look like their first round pick since

798
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: Alex has been in charge. It is a it is

799
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: a rough list, and they have not drafted well. The

800
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: international free agents are still too far away to mean anything.

801
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: They need prospects, they need a better farm system. So

802
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: I would one hundred percent look into trading some of

803
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: these relievers.

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00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Do whatever you can. I mean, it's more on the margins.

805
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: You're not going to change the trajectory of this franchise

806
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: by getting a prospect for two months of ryceele Iglacias

807
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: or Aaron Bummer or Marcelo Zuna. But it can't hurt

808
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: especially weird and.

809
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Listen, I know I can hear I can already hear

810
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: people replying, but they want to win next year. Okay,

811
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: so just build up a new bullpen.

812
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't.

813
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: Your bullpen changes year over year, and who good relievers

814
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: are changes year. I go look at the best relievers

815
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: in baseball last year and then this year. Like you

816
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: can build a bullpen in an offseason. It's not like

817
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: building a rotation or building a lineup.

818
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Ajminter. Yeah, was a core bullpen

819
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: piece for five years and now for back to back

820
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: seasons he's been hurt and ineffective. And yeah, I mean

821
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a cruel game. It's a difficult game. But

822
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: I tend to agree use your bullpen to add talent

823
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: when you don't really have much of it in your organization,

824
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: because frankly, the little bit of talent the Braves have

825
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: in their farm system. Now they're not gonna want a trade.

826
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna need to use that in the years to

827
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: come to supplement the big league roster. All right, Stephen,

828
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: two items and then we'll get out of here. It

829
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: is a week and well, I guess a week from

830
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: right now will be at the All Star Break. Of course,

831
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: the festivities this year are in Atlanta. The circumstances around

832
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: it are maybe not the most joyful, but nonetheless always

833
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: a great experience. The All Star Game was out here

834
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: in Arizona many years ago when I went shoot, I

835
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: was a kid, and not a kid, but younger than

836
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: I am now, and it's awesome. You have fans from

837
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: all over the country and on Sunday night. So maybe

838
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: when folks who are already listening to this the All

839
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: Star Game rosters will be announced. We already know Acunya

840
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: is going to be there in a starting capacity in

841
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: the outfield. That's pretty much it. In terms of guarantees

842
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: for this team, maybe a player or two who have

843
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: a chance, But just I guess anything you're looking for.

844
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: I think I would say as a podcast whole, we

845
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: are not big All Star Game guys, but because it's

846
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, we at least wanted to talk about it

847
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: a bit more.

848
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's cool that Acunyon is gonna be there,

849
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: is gonna be in the Home Run Derby.

850
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: I've been kind of.

851
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: I care more about the Home Run Derby this year

852
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 3: than I do most years, and they've been very kind

853
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: of secret with who's going to be in this thing.

854
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: They I think they've only released you can correct me

855
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, Scott. I think they've released cal Raley

856
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: and James Woods in Acunyon.

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00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: I think that's it.

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00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: I don't think if we have anybody else. I don't

859
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: know if they're having time hard time filling spots or

860
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: they just haven't announced them. But I'm curious to see

861
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: who else is going to be in it, so that'll

862
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: be cool. I really hope matt Olsen gets in tonight again.

863
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: We're recording this before they release the stuff on Sunday night.

864
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: Matt Olsen deserves to be an All Star. It's been,

865
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: you know, by war the best first base in baseball.

866
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: He catches so much shit because his name is not

867
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: Freddie Freeman from Brace Fans. It pisses me off to

868
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: no end and you know, he deserves to be an

869
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: All Star. He's been one of the best players in

870
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 3: baseball this year. He's been one of the best players

871
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: on the team this year. You know, if you go

872
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: back to the very beginning of the year, you know,

873
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: obviously Acunya didn't come till mid May, you could argue

874
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: he's been the best position player on the team, so

875
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: she should be an All Star. I hope he gets

876
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: an All Star spot. It sucks for Swallenback and Sale

877
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: because they would have been All Stars. I don't know

878
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: if they're still gonna announce them as names.

879
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: I doubt.

880
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: I doubt meant, I don't know. Maybe maybe they I

881
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: don't actually know how that works. I think Sale got

882
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: hurt before the voting, but I think Swollenbock actually got

883
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: hurt after the voting, So I don't know. Maybe he

884
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: gets to announced and then just immediately replaced. But yeah,

885
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Akunya and then maybe medals and hopefully medals.

886
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hope Matt's in again. Most folks will

887
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: probably be listening and they'll have a definitive answer. But

888
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: even if Olsen has somehow left off tonight, there's still

889
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 1: there's always guys who set out, they you know, don't

890
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: want to go. Some of the veterans, honestly probably prefer

891
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: to go fishing or hunting, or spend a week with

892
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: their kids, then travel and do yet more baseball stuff

893
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: in the middle of the year, and there's always seemingly

894
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who drop out.

895
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: So cause I also wonder if Olsen would do the Derby.

896
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: That would be awesome. He would I feel like, did

897
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: he do? I think Matt might have done one when

898
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: he was with Oakland back in the day. Maybe not,

899
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: maybe it was Chatman when regardless, we'll see it would

900
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: be fun. I mean, the chop House would be.

901
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: I think he's got right. He would be a better Honestly,

902
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: he'd probably be a better Derby like candidate than Acunya.

903
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 3: Not only in the park. It's it's obviously more suited

904
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: to left handed hitting, but I feel like Matt's got

905
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: more of the kind of uppercut, consistent home run swing

906
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: that you need in the Derby. That'd be fun to

907
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: have a Kunya in Olsen. I mean, listen, there's nothing

908
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: else to cheer for. Having a Kunyan Olsen in the

909
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: Derby would be pretty damn cool.

910
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. We'll get Bryce Elder to throw BP.

911
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: There you go.

912
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: Now we're guarantee guarantee ourselves the finals of a Kunya

913
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: versus Olsen.

914
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: Get a Glaciers to throw some sliders in there.

915
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh baby, now we're talking. Yeah, they go Elder the

916
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: first two rounds, then Iglacias for the final round sliders.

917
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 1: There we go. Somebody let the Braves know this needs

918
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: to happen. And then lastly, now so if if the

919
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: feeling was not good enough for the Braves after getting

920
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: swept at home and going two and seven over the

921
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: last ten days at home, now they get to fly

922
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: across the whole country to Sacramento, where the Oakland A's

923
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: are playing. If people have not seen how bad this

924
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: ballpark is, where the Oakland Sacramento A's are playing. A

925
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: Giants fan posted a picture on the concourse they paid

926
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty dollars for tickets because the Giants

927
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: were playing the A's this past weekend. And I kid

928
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: you not. On the concourse there were two chairs that

929
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: look like the four eighty eight chairs that you buy

930
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: when you walk into Walmart. For like your kids descend

931
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: and when they get out of the pool and if

932
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: you were upwards with like two hundred pounds, you might

933
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: break the legs off these things. And they were one

934
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: hundred dollars seats at the stadium. The grass is terrible.

935
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: The ball flies, so maybe the Braves can hit a

936
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: couple of homers, although that feels like a mountain they're

937
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: going to have to climb. But Oakland is bad. The

938
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: Braves are bad. Two games at ten o'clock and then

939
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: Thursday's game is at nine o'clock. These might be the

940
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: three least watched Braves games of the last like eight years. Seriously,

941
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: I would I would love to know. Obviously, the Braves

942
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: and the TV folks track that. I don't know how

943
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: many people are staying up until one am to watch

944
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: Braves A's with the current state of things.

945
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I think it's Fintes on Tuesday

946
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: and Elder on Wednesday, so it's like, yep, good lord, Yeah,

947
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 3: those could be rough. And again, the ball absolutely flies

948
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: out of that ballpark, and it's I mean, it's a triple

949
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: A ballpark.

950
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: The A's are just the biggest joke.

951
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they just absolutely screwed over an entire fan

952
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 3: base in Oakland, they're and the owner there, what's his name, Fisher,

953
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 3: John Fisher, right or something?

954
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: I think just a just a giant.

955
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: You know, POS sucks what they did to that fan

956
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 3: base that was one of the best when that team

957
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: was good. Oakland's fans were incredible, and even after selling

958
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: off the team every other year, you know, they just

959
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: had really strong fans. So I hate what they've done.

960
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: I've been following a little bit on the perophery what's

961
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: going on in like the Las Vegas with their supposed

962
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: new ballpark in twenty twenty eight. Even that is not

963
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 3: like a certain they might be. I mean, they might

964
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: legitimately be like a franchise without a home for like

965
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: half a decade.

966
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 1: So it's sad.

967
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: It's really sad what's happened to them.

968
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: They've actually got a couple of really fun young hitters,

969
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: you know, Rookers still out there, Butler. They've caught up

970
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: a couple other prospects that are pretty good. So they've

971
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: actually got some young players that are interesting. But yeah,

972
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: they're terrible. But the Braves are terrible too, so you know,

973
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: anything can happen in a game like this. I have

974
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: one hundred percent to.

975
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 5: Agree with you.

976
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: There's going to be twelve people watching this game. I

977
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: will probably be one of them because you know, we're sickos.

978
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: But I don't blame fans for checking out.

979
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: At this point. It's gotten pretty ugly.

980
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it has, so three games in Sacramento, and then

981
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: the Braves wrap up the first half with a trip

982
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis actually to see a Cardinals team that's

983
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: turned it on quite a bit. You get to see

984
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: old friend Chip Carry and see how he's doing. And

985
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: then the All Star break four days away from this

986
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: baseball team probably a good mental reset for everybody involved. Steven,

987
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: I think that's going to do it for the show today. Please,

988
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: if you have anything, any final thoughts you'd like to share,

989
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: and if not, let the fine folks know where they

990
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: can find your writing and your tweeting and everything else.

991
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I being a score outliers, you know, Scott and

992
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: I pretty much live tweet these games at this point.

993
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how much we're gonna be doing that

994
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: going forward this year, but we are gonna be on

995
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: the podcast no matter what. You know, it's gonna get ugly,

996
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: but we're gonna you know, we're gonna have a show

997
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: every every other day basically is what we do.

998
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: At this point. We have the draft.

999
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna have a lot of draft stuff. Obviously, the

1000
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: MLB Draft just came a lot more important to the

1001
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: Braves franchise than it was maybe three months ago. So

1002
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 3: this podcast specifically is gonna get pretty big into the draft,

1003
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: and then obviously next year's draft will be even figure

1004
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: because they're gonna have a pretty high pick. You know,

1005
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: they all Star break and then the trade deadline and

1006
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, I we'll have more time to talk about it.

1007
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: But I do think the Braves need to be a

1008
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: little proactive here at the trade deadline and maybe start

1009
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 3: moving some relievers, maybe Ozuna. But it's gonna get interesting.

1010
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it no matter what, though, and

1011
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: we appreciate the support.

1012
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: That's right. We usually do the emergency pods in July

1013
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: because the Braves have acquired someone. Last year, you, Sean

1014
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: and I did a show at like one am because

1015
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: they traded for Jorges Solare. I don't know if I

1016
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: think the emergency pods, which we will do, we're probably

1017
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: going to be a little more seller focused unfortunately, but

1018
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: maybe they make a move to add somebody long term.

1019
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: All right, folks, thank you as always for tuning into

1020
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: the podcast. We really do mean that. I know this

1021
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: team just makes you want to bang your head against

1022
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: the wall, but win or lose, good or bad, we

1023
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: always do a show, so thank you again. We will

1024
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: be back with more content this upcoming week, probably some

1025
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: late night editions of the podcast as the Braves are

1026
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: out in Sacramento, so God knows what is going to

1027
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: be said in those shows. Until then, we will see

1028
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: everybody next time.