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Speaker 3: I'm saying this from my heart.

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Speaker 2: I missed you. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am good. I'm glad to be back. We are

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Speaker 1: back from Hawaii. It was a little bit of an adventure. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just to the Red Eye. We got back. Last night

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Speaker 1: was our first night, sort of day and day night back.

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Speaker 1: Had some struggle sleeping, but glad to be here. Glad

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Speaker 1: it's football season. Man, it is like we're here. Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game is Thursday night. It's time we're playing football.

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Speaker 1: It's great. It really is.

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Speaker 3: But I got to ask you how hot wasn't in Hawaii?

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Speaker 1: It was fine. It was much harder in Charlotte than

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Speaker 1: I think there were times when I got out of

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Speaker 1: for me. I was like a man, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: are much appreciated for me. But it was a good trip.

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Speaker 1: It was my We saw my college roommate and his wife.

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Speaker 1: There were three kids. We hadn't seen him in like

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Speaker 1: eight years. They live in the eastern part of Oregon,

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Speaker 3: Great did you get burnt? A little sunburned?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 2: No, no good Okay, he has to big question I

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Speaker 2: have you know, you're a big guy, you're a celebrity

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Speaker 2: playing in the NFL for eight years. You go to

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Speaker 2: the restaurants in Honolulu, Hawaii, on the island, does anybody

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Speaker 1: Say, Hey, you're Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: You wrote the book, e My Schwartz, have your autograph,

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Speaker 2: can take a picture with you.

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Speaker 3: How many people recognize you in Hawaii?

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Speaker 1: Nobody. The thing that I like about, you know, places

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Speaker 3: All right, Okay, I'll never ignore you.

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Speaker 1: You know that I will leave you. I appreciate it. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I got a story here which I thought was humorous, interesting,

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Speaker 2: and really ingenious all in one. Earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, you know, in all the

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Speaker 2: And he came out and said that Hackett quote was

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Speaker 3: That's that's a pretty big indictment.

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Speaker 2: It really is. Even if you want to come back

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Speaker 1: We absolutely meant it. I think he is apologizing more

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Speaker 1: Stop worrying about Nate Hackett what happened last season? And

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Speaker 2: And this is what makes the NFL great, the storylines,

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Speaker 1: But I have no high helps for Russell Wilson this year.

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Speaker 2: New York just now on Hard Knocks. We'll see if

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Speaker 2: what you mentioned Hard Knocks, I think that's way way

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Speaker 2: beneath that Netflix series Quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: That was great.

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Speaker 3: I watched them all Onners.

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Speaker 1: is numbers. The Pack Toeal presidents are risk adverse. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the best example of this was COVID. Right during COVID

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Speaker 1: they were one of the really the two main conferences

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Speaker 1: them in the Big ten to not want to play

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Speaker 1: football early in that fall, right was in the SEC,

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Speaker 1: the ACC, the Big twelve all started head in full seasons.

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Speaker 1: The Pack twelven and Big ten did not. They're risk adverse, man,

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Speaker 1: they they liked the status quo. The pat Towel presidents

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Speaker 1: have these large research universities. The school budget for the

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Speaker 1: athletic department is relatively small for them. The care about

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Speaker 1: athletics is relatively small for them. Now they probably get

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Speaker 1: the most pushback from boosters and alumni about sports. Then

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Speaker 1: I can push back about what happens you know at

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Speaker 1: the at the social science you know a building, right,

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Speaker 1: But like you know, they again, like in the grand

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Speaker 1: scheme of things, the sports part of their life and

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Speaker 1: budget is small, So changing a conference. If your Arizona

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Speaker 1: has been in the Pac ten since the nineteen seventies,

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Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies, going to the Big twelve is not

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Speaker 1: something you really want to do. You'll do it if

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Speaker 1: there's no TV deal, if there's not even a whiff

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Speaker 1: of any of anything where you can say to any

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Speaker 1: of your boosters, any of your supports, hey guys, we

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Speaker 1: have something in the future, and staying with the conference,

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Speaker 1: like like the PAC twelve is going to benefit us.

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Speaker 1: Colorado again, never felt part of the PAC twelve. They've

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Speaker 1: been there since since twenty they have they have no rival.

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Speaker 1: They try like this, you talk aling arrivalry. They have

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Speaker 1: no rival. They've been the worst football program since they

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Speaker 1: came to the PAC twelve. They never felt integrated into

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Speaker 1: what the PAC twelve does. So them leaving again on

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Speaker 1: the face is not a problem. It's anything stating and

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Speaker 1: get a television contract, Andy, we won't even we won't

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Speaker 1: even notice.

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Speaker 2: But here's my question to you. Though the Big twelve

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Speaker 2: has a TV contract with both Fox and ESPN. They

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Speaker 2: claim that's worth about two point two eight billion over

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Speaker 2: six years.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to play. We know what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So the fact that you're going to have

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Speaker 2: an additional thirteenth member, is that going to change the

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Speaker 2: value of the deal that no facts, Hispian going to

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Speaker 2: go up money, I don't think they would.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, So here's so it's interesting. So the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve negotiated with with their deal, it's with Fox

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Speaker 1: and ESPN. The negotiated uh basically a pro rat number,

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Speaker 1: which is what everyone else is getting, that when a

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Speaker 1: team is added, they get added at the full price,

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Speaker 1: so thirty one point six million dollars a year when

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Speaker 1: they get added to the conference. The really ESPN agree

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Speaker 1: is Fox said they would, and Fox is giving less

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Speaker 1: than ESPN is for this thirty million dollars they're giving

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Speaker 1: I think like eleven million. It's been giving twenty. But

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Speaker 1: Fox agreed. So they they've agreed on paper and in

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Speaker 1: practicality that if a team joins the conference they get

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Speaker 1: a full share right away. We're in the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: for example, that's not the case if Oregon and Washington,

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Speaker 1: which are the two schools rumors to go to the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten at some point, they would get a half

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Speaker 1: share maybe, which is still you know, half of one

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Speaker 1: hundred million is fifty that's more than they would get

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Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve and obviously the Big twelve. So

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve negotiated the ability to add these teams

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Speaker 1: right now with as much money as everyone else. So

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Speaker 1: it is pretty curious to see what Arizona. If Arizona,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. The PAC twelve right now is technically

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Speaker 1: quote fine, they're fine, Like there's no no one is.

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Speaker 1: They add saying state they'll get somewhere on some TV deal.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's gonna be, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be great, okay, but they're gonna be fine for now.

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Speaker 1: People when U c LA and you leave, if well

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Speaker 1: there already no, I'm talking about if they sat State

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Speaker 1: make a ten team conference and get a TV deal

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four and beyond, they're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: They will, they will be a Power five conference. Orgon

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Speaker 1: to Washington. Are better rands and better programs right now

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Speaker 1: historically then the remaining Big twelve programs right there's no

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Speaker 1: there's not a question about that at the moment. But

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Speaker 1: they they like, they'll be okay. If Arizona leaves, that's it.

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Speaker 1: If Arizona leaves, a conference is done. Because what it's

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Speaker 1: interesting everyone says that o're gonna wash. It will end

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Speaker 1: up in the Big ten. That's that's people assume. Any

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Speaker 1: people in the know, they're like, yeah, they'll end up

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Speaker 1: there eventually. The question is when is it now to

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Speaker 1: twenty six, is the twenty nine, is it thirty? The

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Speaker 1: the the the reasoning behind it is the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to seem like they destroyed the PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: conference for legal liability, even though let's be real, they had.

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Speaker 1: They took UC and USC. But if Arizona leaves now

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Speaker 1: you're down to eight schools in the PAC twelve. Four

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Speaker 1: have left in the last year. The Big ten might

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Speaker 1: feel more in clientate Oregon and Washington and then that's it,

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Speaker 1: right and then you're just adding you know, four four

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Speaker 1: to six Mound West teams to form a new PAC twelve.

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Speaker 1: So if Arizona leaves, which there's rumors that they're going

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Speaker 1: to leave soon, that's it. The Conference of Champions, the

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Speaker 1: conference I grew up in watching is done. And I

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Speaker 1: want to be very clear, I hate all of this,

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Speaker 1: not just because it affects the conference that I watch,

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Speaker 1: but you know, part of the reason we like college

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Speaker 1: football is we like the regionality of it, right right.

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Speaker 1: We like the scar tissue of the rivalries between all

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Speaker 1: these schools that play each other each year. Even if

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Speaker 1: you know Oregon and Washington State don't have a great

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Speaker 1: rivalry per se. There's so many years they've played, right,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know USC and cal or UCLA and Stanford,

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Speaker 1: they play each season that you feel that there's a

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Speaker 1: bond between fan bases that play each year like that, Right,

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Speaker 1: they could list of any other conference, right. And the

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Speaker 1: regionality of the sport in the West Coast has not

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Speaker 1: been very good at football. I get that, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not arguing against that, but there's still a fabric and

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Speaker 1: there's a scar tissue of playing these teams each season

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Speaker 1: and you lose the regionality of the sport. If the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve dies now nationally, yeah, you get better games, UCO, Michigan, USC,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, you know, the Oklahoma State now in Colorado,

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Speaker 1: and you get better games. I'm not arguing that nationally,

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Speaker 1: you get better games, but the regionality of the sport

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Speaker 1: is gone. And we actually like that, you know, as

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Speaker 1: much as we don't pick for Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Wyrett has all your sports on the ti raq

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Speaker 2: dot com studios and we'll pick this right up, keV O.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, little Lake go right out, worries. We got the

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Speaker 6: game going on right now. They've actually reached halftime in

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Speaker 6: the Women's World Cup match between Germany and Columbia, and

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Speaker 6: this game is still scoreless. Switzerland New Zealand also played

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Speaker 6: to a scoreless draw. That game has concluded. One goal

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Speaker 6: scored to the Norway Philippines, but it was all one

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Speaker 6: sided in Norwegian's dominating from start to finish. They blank

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Speaker 6: him six nil and Morocco holds off South Korea one nil.

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Speaker 6: Big boxing matchup in Las Vegas on Saturday night, Terrence

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Speaker 6: Crawford now is forty to zero for his career and

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Speaker 6: he owns all four welterweight title belts. He beat erro

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Speaker 6: Spence in a ninth round technical knockout. Crawford becomes the

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Speaker 6: first undisputed one hundred and forty seven pound champion in

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Speaker 6: the four belt era. Major League Baseball the Mets trading

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Speaker 6: Max Scherzer to the Rangers in exchange for double a

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Speaker 6: short step Luis Angel Acunya, and if he sounds familiar,

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Speaker 6: it's because he's the brother of Braves player Ronald Acunya.

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Speaker 6: Acunya is rated as the number forty four prospect according

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Speaker 6: to MLB dot Com. Schuzer, waving his no trade clause,

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Speaker 6: he opted in for next season with the Rangers, the

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Speaker 6: Mets sending over thirty five million dollars to Texas to

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Speaker 6: help offset Schurzer's salary. The Braves beat the Brewers eleven

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Speaker 6: to five. Ronald Acunya with his twenty fourth homer. He

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Speaker 6: stole his fiftieth base of the season. The Cubs making

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Speaker 6: eight wins in a row. They beat the Cardinals five

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Speaker 6: to one, the Cardinals saying they're not trading Nolan Arenado.

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Speaker 6: Battle of the worst teams in the American and National Leagues,

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Speaker 6: the Athletics take down the Rockies eleven to three. Kansas

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Speaker 6: City Royals, They've had a difficult year, but they beat

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Speaker 6: the first place Twins ten to seven in the Al Central.

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Speaker 6: It's Minnesota game and a half ahead of the Cleveland

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Speaker 6: Guardians because they also lost to the Chicago White Sox

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Speaker 6: seven to two. The Yankees get home runs from both

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Speaker 6: gian Carlo Stanton and Aaron Judge. They beat the Orioles

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Speaker 6: eight three, the Yankees thirty and three when both Stanton

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Speaker 6: and Judge hit a home run in the same game.

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Speaker 6: The Giants over the Red Sox three to two as JD.

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Speaker 6: Davis hits a walk off solo home run. The Diamonback's

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Speaker 6: got to run in the eighth inning. They beat the

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Speaker 6: Mariners four to three. The Angels lose again to the

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Speaker 6: Blue Jays six to one. The Astros with the absolute

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Speaker 6: dismantling of the Ray seventeen to four. They hit five

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Speaker 6: home runs, and the Dodgers over the Reds three too,

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Speaker 6: despite the fact they only got two hits. Max Months

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Speaker 6: he got both of them. They were both home runs

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Speaker 6: and that was the difference in that game.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Thank you. keV.

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Speaker 3: All right, we go rolling on right now.

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Speaker 2: Talk about college expansion and there's another college conference looks

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Speaker 2: to expand this, well, we gotta eat my Schwartz come

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Speaker 2: up with a couple of minutes. But we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the ACC. But the question I have for Jeff Schwartz

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Speaker 2: is that this PAC twelve situation, which is close to

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Speaker 2: home to you. They got some top coaches here, no

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Speaker 2: doubt about that, but football and that conference really falls

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Speaker 2: way below the Big twelve in the SEC. Why is

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Speaker 2: that they have some top athletes, but the football competition

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Speaker 2: is not on par.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the ironic part about usc in moving to

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Speaker 1: the Big ten as they claim that the Pack twelve

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Speaker 1: at the conference did, didn't placate them, did didn't do

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Speaker 1: enough for them, didn't didn't go in and say, hey, USC,

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Speaker 1: please stay, We'll give you more money. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: hey Trojans, can you win some football games please? Because

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to be the leader of the conference and

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Speaker 1: y'all were largely irrelevant since Pete Carrol left, like USC

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Speaker 1: football has not held up their end of the bargain. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Oregon's tried. We've been the two championship games at twenty

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Speaker 1: ten and twenty fourteen. Washington where are you at? You

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Speaker 1: won your half championship in ninety one, been a one

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Speaker 1: playoff game since then, Washington hasn't won a game after

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Speaker 1: January for really after December thirty first since two thousand

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Speaker 1: to two thousand. So the schools that are supposed to

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Speaker 1: be these kind of Bell Kyle schools in our conference

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Speaker 1: haven't done that. They haven't done that. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where you begin. Now. The worst part about all

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Speaker 1: of this, Andy is that this season the PACKED is

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Speaker 1: gonna be the seconds conference after the SEC. Have you

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Speaker 1: seen the quarterbacks in our conference right now? Yeah? You

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Speaker 1: have Caleb Williams, Who's who's gonna be the number one

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Speaker 1: pick on the draft. He's he is and I saw

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Speaker 1: them packed on me to day. I was, I was there.

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Speaker 1: It was that week. Go now on Friday, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even know that he is a Heisman Trophy winner and

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Speaker 1: the number one pick on the draft. He's like the

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Speaker 1: coolest cat man. He was playing pick up ball with

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Speaker 1: Rollstone Junior, was watching defense like they're having the best time.

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Speaker 1: He's super I like Killer one was a lot. Michael

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Speaker 1: Pennox Washington's quarterback Jamian Heisman discussion bow knicks. Oregon's quarterback

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Speaker 1: is getting is getting first round grades after one good season. Oregon. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you have Sirdear Sanders. Obviously Colorado he's there only one

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Speaker 1: more year. But you know, obviously in the conference, let's

646
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Speaker 1: say you have Sare Sanders, you have you have you

647
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Speaker 1: have dju at Oregon State. Organ State is gonna win, uh,

648
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: you know in nine or ten games again this season.

649
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: You have a five star quarterback at UCLA's a true

650
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: freshman named Dante Moore. You have cam Ward at Washington

651
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: in year two of that program, Jane Dolor. Like you

652
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: have all these quarterbacks, We're gonna have a great conference. Season.

653
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Speaker 2: This is right, and not to burst your bubb but

654
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: one of the major problems I've always felt about the

655
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Speaker 2: Pact twelve is at the time factor. I mean, the

656
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: game starts so late at least I live.

657
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I live on these coasts. I get this, Okay, I do.

658
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Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do about it? There's nothing

659
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: to do. You can't play. You're not gonna pay your

660
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: games at nine am. I'm sorry, you're just not. Now

661
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: they're doing some big newon Kickoff, right, Colorado, the first

662
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: two weeks the year is playing on Big newon Kickoff,

663
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Speaker 1: and those will be earlier games for Colorado ten am,

664
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Speaker 1: Central mount of time. I should say kickoffs, like, but

665
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Speaker 1: you can't do it any earlier, and just something that,

666
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Speaker 1: like you have to deal with it. Just it, just

667
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: it's part of it. It sucks. I again, I do

668
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: radio for the conference, and I don't get up, so

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00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't stay up to watch past midnight. Essentially, I

670
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: just wake up in the morning and watch the rest

671
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Speaker 1: of the game. I get it.

672
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Speaker 2: It stinks, but it's better than of what it used

673
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: to be because now, with the advent of the Internet,

674
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: you could get the information immediately. Because way back when

675
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: in twenty thirty years ago. You know they waited for

676
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: the East Coast papers to get the score. You couldn't

677
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 2: get it till Monday, couldn't get the score till monthy correct.

678
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: But to be fair, this season, Utah Florida is on

679
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: national television APM Eastern week one, right TISU, Colorado Boys State, Washington,

680
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Washington be a top ten team. They're on ABC at

681
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: three point thirty Eastern in week one. Oregon State's on

682
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Speaker 1: national TV. Actually, weirdly enough, on Sunday in week one.

683
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Speaker 1: The next week Oregon and Texas Tech national television during

684
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Speaker 1: the daytime. Colorado, Nebraska, Utah, Baylor. There's a ton of

685
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: these games early season. They're on national TV. So we

686
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: can't complain in the first couple of weekends or I

687
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: don't want to hear pose. I can't watch the pack up.

688
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: It's all on it's all national television. You can choose

689
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: to watch it. It's there to watch. There we go.

690
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Speaker 2: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports

691
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Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He knows all and he

692
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: tells it on Eat My Schwartz next, Eat My Schwartz,

693
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: coming right up, it's about eleven minutes now before the

694
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Speaker 2: top of the hour. This is Fox Sports son that

695
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Speaker 2: he is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman, and we are

696
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Speaker 2: live from the tiraq dot com studios. Mister Schwartz, are

697
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: you ready? If so, let's do it all right, Okay,

698
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Speaker 2: here we go. Now, you played in the NFL eight years.

699
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Speaker 1: Yes.

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00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: I want to know if you've ever seen a coach

701
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Speaker 2: repeat his practice regiments exactly from year to year, day

702
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: to day in preseedon takes out the index cards say oh,

703
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 2: we did this the first day last year, We're gonna

704
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Speaker 2: do it again this year.

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Speaker 1: Does that happen often in the coach I feel every

706
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: coach does that? Really? They just like yeah, they just

707
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: they just the insult schedule pretty much remains the same

708
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Speaker 1: and the practice. Yeah, I don't it doesn't change very much. No,

709
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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: I think because of the personnel, possibly it might change,

711
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: but I just the drills stay the same, so you

712
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: just keep on.

713
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean, especially if you're winning. Yeah, for the most part,

714
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: everything's the same. Why is there.

715
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Someone who fixed if it ain't broke?

716
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: There so one who who? Uh? Who does who? Admitted

717
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: that it's basically what they do.

718
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: No, no, but but I've seen that when I watch

719
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: practice as that looks familiar, you know, and they just

720
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: do the same stuff every day.

721
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because you basically install in the same

722
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: schedule every year. I mean, there's no reason to change

723
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: the install schedule for And.

724
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Now we talked about Sean Payton and his new team,

725
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: the Broncos. Can a coach really make a difference?

726
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, it's oh yeah. I mean you can

727
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: tell right away a lot of times if a coach

728
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: like has the competence to be good. It's the way

729
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: they teach, right It's the way they adapt, It's the

730
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: way they're able to really teach all different types of players,

731
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Speaker 1: the way to play the game. It's how do you communicate,

732
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: how do your problem solve? I mean, there's all these

733
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Speaker 1: things that the great coaches do better than kind of

734
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Speaker 1: the ones that really honestly don't interesting.

735
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Speaker 2: Okay, now, speaking of coaches in your mind, Jeff Schwartz,

736
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Speaker 2: who might be on the hot seat this season?

737
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Speaker 1: Oh good question. So people have mentioned, you know, Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I

739
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: don't know on the hot seats, who's on the hot

740
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: seat this year. Josh McDaniels is on the hot seat

741
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: if they don't win. I think in Vegas, I think

742
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: he's out pretty quickly. Dallas, Dallas, Yeah, I think Dallas

743
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: is gonna win, though I'm not really concerned about maybe

744
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: not win a championship, but they're gonna win where Jerry's

745
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: not gonna get rid of of Miche McCarthy. Just remember,

746
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: when you fire a coach, you have to you have

747
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: to hire someone who is better, like in the in theory, right,

748
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: who's better is is you know, is someone who's better

749
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: than who the're gonna hire that's better? Champagne's off off

750
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: the table now right, no longer there, So I just

751
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: don't know who they're gonna hire who's better than McCarthy.

752
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Speaker 3: All right, let's listen a hot seat. Let's go with

753
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: the Jets.

754
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: A lot of pressure over there to win New Culture

755
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers. Oh yeah, it could be on the

756
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: hot seat.

757
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: I think Robert Sola. If they don't. The question is

758
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: to me, like, I think they have to make the

759
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: playoffs this season, like that's the floor. If that's not

760
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: the case, then he can survive sort of a quote

761
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: quote bad season. But to me, like they gotta win

762
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: a SAP like they gotta win, they gotta win now.

763
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: So I think he's on the hot seat too.

764
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Speaker 2: Okay, we've heard about the Stefan Diggs, Josh Allen spat

765
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Speaker 2: and I've heard some rumors. I don't even know if

766
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: we should go public with it.

767
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: No, we've heard. I think we will. Everyone by now,

768
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I think has heard sort of the same rumors about

769
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: about maybe what happened in Buffalo. I've not mentioned them,

770
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Speaker 1: and I'm not going to do that because I think

771
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: it's their unfounded rumors and I don't think we should

772
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: go that direction. But I think most of the media

773
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: have heard the same things by now about about what

774
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: happened in Buffalo. Right.

775
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: However, I got to ask, is that going to create

776
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: a problem with the Buffalo Bills moving forward?

777
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 6: Uh?

778
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: No, if if they start losing again, yes, but I

779
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: you know they I don't know if they're gonna lose that.

780
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: I think there is some Look, Buffalo has gone backwards

781
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: now for three years, right from where they were, you

782
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: know they were. They need a running game, they need

783
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: their offensive line to play better. There's if they don't

784
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: win early in this season, maybe, but I think they're

785
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna be good again, So I think a lot of

786
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: the concerns aren't going to be there.

787
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: And last, but not least, do you see Jordan Love

788
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: now as the long term quarterback starter for the Green

789
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: Bay Packers?

790
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, man, I don't. I mean, I think the

791
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: Packers hope. I mean there's a lot of questions about

792
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna end up being that guy.

793
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, any major changes anything that we're gonna say, Well,

794
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: I didn't expect that this year in the NFL early on, Like, wow,

795
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: look at that team where they come from.

796
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins are the surprise team. Everyone thinks

797
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: they're a surprise team. I think the Panthers are gonna

798
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: be If Bryce Young can play a little bit, they're

799
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. Here we go, all right, he's

800
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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz. I maybe for it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, less turns out to be more for

802
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 2: one NFL quarterback and more. We're right here on Fox

803
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday next. What a deal that's coming right up?

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Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

805
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Speaker 2: be Jeff Schwartz, you know you got me crazy with

811
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Speaker 2: this college conference expansion. I want to continue if I may,

812
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: If you don't mind, because you're on top of it.

813
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: You're a packed one kind of guy. You do PAC

814
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: twelve radio during the week. I want to go to

815
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Speaker 2: the ACC for a segment. Was that Commissioner Jim Phillips

816
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Speaker 2: says he's looking to air teams and now they're saying

817
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Speaker 2: the potential targets for the ACC Oregon, Washington, SMU in

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Speaker 2: West Virginia.

819
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, okay, So the ACC. Really the problem

820
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Speaker 1: with the ACC right now is there in this locked

821
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Speaker 1: grant of rights. So what's making some of these, you know,

822
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: some of these decisions for conference realignment difficult. Is that

823
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: the grant of rights, the contract you have with basically

824
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: the conference and its TV partner, You're you're locked in.

825
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: The agency right now is locked in now. Of course,

826
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Speaker 1: there's ways to get out of it. That's gonna be

827
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Speaker 1: very expensive and cost and costs a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: But you can get out of a grant of rights.

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Speaker 1: And right now, the PAC twelve granted rights is up

830
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Speaker 1: after this year because they don't have a new TV deal.

831
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Speaker 1: So Oregon and Washington are free agents. Essentially if they

832
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Speaker 1: would like to leave, they can leave without penalty. For example,

833
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: San Diego State, which was rumored to go to PAC twelve,

834
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Speaker 1: they can't leave the Mound West without paying a fee

835
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Speaker 1: of thirty four million dollars because they have a grand

836
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Speaker 1: rights deal. So it's like it's it's difficult to see

837
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Speaker 1: them leaving right now because the PAC twelve ain't paying

838
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: that either for them. So Oregon and Washington as free

839
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Speaker 1: agents are very you know, are like top of the line,

840
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: right Like if you look at around, who oh you're

841
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: a free agent or going to Washington, great, let me

842
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: snack you up. They're not called the ACC conference, all right.

843
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't see the advantage of leaving the PAC twelve

844
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: to go to the ACC.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it the advantage for all this if

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Speaker 1: you are organ or Washington or Colorado, Arizona. Some of

847
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: the school's rumored to leave the pactoral conference. Is stability? Right?

848
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Is stability? You know again, these conference presidents do not

849
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: like instability. They want stability and going to an ACC

850
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: a big twelve, a big ten, to have TV contracts

851
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: with firm numbers, with an ability to be on national television,

852
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: already slotted, already agreed upon. It fits. You know, a

853
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: president who's risk averse, who is who wants to be

854
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: able to make budgets and and ensure they're boosters. And

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00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: the people that are kind of there, not theirs per se,

856
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: but the ones that hear from the most are satisfied.

857
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: Is finding a conference home that has these things already

858
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: in place already.

859
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: But the key here's my question to you, and you

860
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: know because you're on top of this stuff. Is the

861
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: key to conference alignment or moving from one conference to another?

862
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: Is the key money? Or is the key? Can we compete?

863
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: Because I can't see Alcohoma can't compete. I don't think

864
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: on a yearly basis, they will not dominate the SEC

865
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: like they did.

866
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: To me. It's not about competing, because it's about it's

867
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: ideally it's both right, you would like to be able

868
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: to compete and win, but that that that that doesn't

869
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: happen very often. It's about money. It's about money, it's

870
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: about access, it's about being feeling like you're in you're

871
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: one of the big dog conferences, and visibility, invisibility, all

872
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: those things are important. And again the ACC right now

873
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: is looking to a grand Rail twenty thirty six. They

874
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: can try, you know, florest State, they're smoke, they're trying

875
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: to get out of Miami. I mean yet you can try,

876
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, figuring to actually pull that off to

877
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: the end. You try to do it all you want,

878
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: But again, making it actually happen, you know, is again

879
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: these things move much slower than we think. You know,

880
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: Colorado has been talking the Big twelve for nearly a

881
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: year now. It just takes time, right, It takes time

882
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: to for these for these negotiations, and and and time

883
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: for these processes to happen. It doesn't happen as quickly

884
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: as you think it as you think it's going to happen.

885
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: So it just takes time. Man, Orgon's not go to

886
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: ACC all.

887
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: Right, and at Florida State looking to lead the ACC.

888
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: Right because they want to go to again a conference

889
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: with more TV money. But let's be let's be frank.

890
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: This is these decisions are not being driven by school

891
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: presidents and chancellors and border regions and whatnot. They're being

892
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: driven by the by the by the TV networks, by Foxing,

893
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: and I work for Fox, by Foxing and for ESPN.

894
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: So it's hard because obviously I really enjoy my time

895
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: working at Fox, but the kind of low key ruined

896
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: my favorite football conference. It's tough to scare those two

897
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: things away. These these is are being done, are being

898
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: made by those schools, right ESPN is saying, okay, you

899
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: know the Big twelve, we can add four schools right now,

900
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Okay, well we didn't, you know, initially

901
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: didn't want Orgon to wash it, and there was actually

902
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: there was. Oregon was one of the schools that was

903
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: considered to go with USC. They they chose U c A

904
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: and the end, I think because they wanted all California,

905
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean all southern California, but Oregon, Oregon can be

906
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: the in the Big Ten. If Fox says tomorrow today,

907
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: Waves of Wan goes Okay, They're in. It's that simple.

908
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: That's the way this process works. Unfortunately, and I.

909
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: Understand that the competition level you know for football, they

910
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: want to say there or whatever it may be. What

911
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't understand is how they can justify women's softball traveling,

912
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: golf team traveling, you know, the the so called minus

913
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: spots and non revenue sports. How did that? How does

914
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: Rutgers in New Jersey go to the Big Ten and

915
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: travel with their women basketball?

916
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: I mean it so the money, the money has to

917
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 3: be draining, so.

918
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: It's not unfortunately, you know, it's it's not really about

919
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: those programs, right, I mean, thesecisis are being made about

920
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: football and really it's a little bit of basketball. But

921
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: or you know, they're made they're made about football, and

922
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: so if you are, if you're one of those sports,

923
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: I do feel sorry for you. The travel is is

924
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: is tremendous. It's a lot of travel. It's like there's

925
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: a lot. It's it's a it's very taxing on.

926
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: Your maybe four or five trips a year, that's it.

927
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, thesecisis are not made about those Olympic sports. They're

928
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: made about everything else, and it's going to be And

929
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: I understand why it's difficult for those schools and and

930
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: and those programs to to make these moves and and

931
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: have these flights and be gone from campus for so long.

932
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: But unfortunately there's not much generation given to those those

933
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: non revenue sports, those Olympic sports, because again, they're not

934
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: the reason why your school is getting all one hundred.

935
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: But let's say Oklahoma is going to have a soccer

936
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: match against Vanderbilt one day, right, not on a Wednesday.

937
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: That's probably not the best example to use because Nashville

938
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: and and Norman aren't that far away from each other.

939
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: It's more like West Virginia is going to be playing,

940
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, a soccer match against Arizona in a conference

941
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, match up one day. It's a long way

942
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: from Tucson, right, I mean, USC is gonna have to

943
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: travel to Rutgers to you know, to to you know

944
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: for women's you know, for a women's college basketball game,

945
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: or for a volleyball game or those those are it's

946
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: a long it's a long way to go.

947
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be nice if someone had an edict saying

948
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: that there should be a law really maybe by the

949
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: government that no college conference could be in more than

950
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: two different time zones. That really it's crazy.

951
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean and that think about you know,

952
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: talk about time zones, you know, these TV networks, they

953
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: want to have a presence, you know, if you are

954
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: right now, if you are Fox or ESPN, you know,

955
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: if you have a presence, if you're a big you know,

956
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: in the big ten and four time zones, right yeah,

957
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: I actually I think it's three because I don't know

958
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: if you have the Mountain time zone right now. I

959
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: think Nebraska's a center time zone. It doesn't even matter.

960
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: You can you can air you know, you're gonna be

961
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: able to air you know, to air games just all

962
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: day right not you know, twelve twelve eastern to to

963
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: one am Eastern to You're gonna have That's that is

964
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: what is valuable to these pro to to these executives,

965
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: and it's it's the way, it's the way. It's the

966
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: new world of college sports. And now with n i

967
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: L and the focus on some of these you know,

968
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: these players getting all these you know how you how

969
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: that how they gonna work that out because there's a

970
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: discussion about should the players get a cut of the

971
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: TV revenue now, which will change the equation obviously heavily

972
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: for recruiting for n i L. For things like that.

973
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly possible. These things happen, so you know,

974
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to see where this all goes.

975
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen to Fast Man, It's happened to Fast

976
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: it really is.

977
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: And as somebody, these coaches can't adapt to it. And

978
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: that's why I think somebody these coaches have resigned them

979
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: and quick early. I think coach k at Duke cannot

980
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: handle the new nil and what it may be and

981
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: the transfer portal and things like that. Coaches like that left.

982
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: I really believe they can't adapt.

983
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you're absolutely correct. Coaches that have coached

984
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: for a long period of time do not like where

985
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: the sport is at right now, and you can either

986
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: adapt and look there. And to be fair, there are

987
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: coaches who say they don't like it, but they participate

988
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: in all aspects of this. But for the most part,

989
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, there are coaches that have left because the

990
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: sport has changed so much and they do not like

991
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: where the sport's at. And I commend them for leaving,

992
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: right if they don't like it, get out of here,

993
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: be done with it. I appreciate them admitting it. But

994
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: you adapt, you adapted, or that's it. And some coaches

995
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: have failed to adapt, and that's okay, it happens. Yeah,

996
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: but yeah.

997
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: I got some You just changed the page a little bit.

998
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: Going back to football, and we talked about that quarterback

999
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: series on Netflix, and all of a sudden, I started looking.

1000
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 2: I've changed my whole stance on Kirk Cousins. I thought

1001
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: he was a jerk. I didn't like the whole situation.

1002
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: He wanted to take COVID shot whatever. I watched him.

1003
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: I love the guy. He's a family guy, takes the

1004
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: Tuesdays off with his family, goes to the zoo with

1005
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: his kid. I have the utmost respect for Kirk Cousins.

1006
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: I hope he wins. So I go back. I'm checking

1007
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: stats now. I'm asking you a question. You're an NFL drafter,

1008
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: you're making a draft pick. You had a choice between

1009
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins or Dak Prescott. Who would you pick as

1010
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: a quarterback for your team?

1011
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: I know there are stats are strikingly similar.

1012
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 2: I know That's why I pring it. I'm shocked. I mean, look,

1013
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: they both have a completion rate. Cousins is sixty six

1014
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: point eight, Prescott sixty six point six, and the quarterback

1015
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 2: right is right identical ninety seven point eight. Who would

1016
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: have thunk it? Really?

1017
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: So Quarterback Series on Netflix was fabulous, Okay, And I'm

1018
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: glad you mentioned Cousins because I came out of it

1019
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Man, I kind of I'm kind of

1020
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: rooting for Cousins, like I don't don't I don't change,

1021
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: I don't change the way I feel about him as

1022
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I think he's he is what he is

1023
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, and you could certainly see why he's

1024
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: not Patrick Mahomes right in the just you can tell

1025
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: he's mob you know, no, but also just the mental makeup, right,

1026
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, Cousins is, you know, attaching electrical stems to

1027
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: his brain to like his brain wired, just like Mahomes

1028
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: ain't doing those things right.

1029
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 3: He's a little bit of a geek, really, he really is.

1030
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: He just built differently. Okay, But I think I just

1031
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: found myself rooting for Cousins, Like I just come out

1032
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: of that. But I'll tell you what, man, that was

1033
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: just it was a great look at the NFL quarterback

1034
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: Like it's a great look at the psyche of these

1035
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: guys about what makes these guys tick. You know, again

1036
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: for Mahomes, like very Mahomes offered too much on TV

1037
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: because everybody's watching that you think he did.

1038
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: No, Okay, because they had that play when they did

1039
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: dancing around, they say it looked like the Jewish hora

1040
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 2: over there.

1041
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: You know. No, I loved that. It was great. I

1042
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: mean I I loved dude. It's the best look I've

1043
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: seen into into kind of the industry at the quarterback play,

1044
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: into all those things. Loved it. It was fabulous. The

1045
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: family aspect of it was great. You heard the play

1046
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: calling for like half a show was just to hear

1047
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: what the quarterbacks go through. But I came away thinking myself,

1048
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: but I know, I let this Cousin's guy more. I

1049
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: don't not as a quarterbacks, as a person, family man.

1050
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: It's almost Mahomes by the way, he's a big family

1051
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: guy too. But there was a clear, a clear difference

1052
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: in kind of mentality. Now Mahomes is better player between

1053
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: him and Cousins. Uh. The other thing that I found

1054
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: so fasting about this is, and I mentioned on my podcast,

1055
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: Josh wich is smarting you. If you want to come,

1056
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: you can come, you know, go check it out on

1057
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: where your podcast is at. Did you notice, by any

1058
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: chance when Patrick Mahomes came off the field and was

1059
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: talking to coaches and preparing for the next series and

1060
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: really just practice. Who he was talking to and who

1061
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't talking to. Never talked to the enemy. Never

1062
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: talked to the enemy.

1063
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: One time I saw that, I scratched my head as

1064
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: a way in a minute, I thought he was the genius.

1065
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: I thought he's calling the plays. He never taught to

1066
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: the quarterband coach at the Andy Reid, He's never.

1067
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: By the way, air Bamy has never called the plays.

1068
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is a thing that we

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Speaker 1: talked at. The narrative is always Andy Reid, now be

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Speaker 1: enemy physic. Now bene me physically radio the plays to

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00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and his helmet. But Andy Reed calls the

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Speaker 1: place now as this for years. It's very true, Andy Reid.

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00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: It's a it's a collaborative process. Okay. So there are

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00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: parts of the offense that are that are you know,

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00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: a coach does right, like for example, the offensive line

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00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: coach does the run game, and so Andy Reid a

1077
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: radio in, Hey, what run play do you want here? Right?

1078
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: Bne me. Let's say he's in charge of a third down, Hey,

1079
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: eb what run play? Do you want here? Like it's

1080
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: a collaborative process, but it's Andy Reid's offense. I thought.

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00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: The one thing that I found most interesting, and I'm

1082
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan and just kind of obviously is an

1083
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: I root for K B Enemy. I hope he does

1084
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: well in Washington is that him and Mahomes did not talk.

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00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: I noticed that as well. I mean he sat next

1086
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: to him on the bench. He may have shown him

1087
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: his iPad a little bit, but never made a final decision.

1088
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: From Eric the Enemy to Patrick Mahomes, it was always

1089
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback coach and Andy Reed in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Very very fascinating, right, Like, I'm that dynamic was very glaring.

1091
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Speaker 1: It was like they went out of their way to

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00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: show that those guys did not talk at all.

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00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: Right, And Eric the Enemy almost looked like he's a

1094
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: big time subservient to Andy Reid, no doubt about that.

1095
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't an equal, he wasn't on par

1096
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: with Andy Reid. Like Andy Ree would never call him

1097
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: and say, eb, what do you think we ought to

1098
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: do now? No way, I never saw that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so very very very curious. I thought too, you know,

1100
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Speaker 1: the different coaches house between you know, Kevin O'Connell and

1101
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: Aye Reid. Now Kevin O'Collins in his first year. I thought,

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00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, you could tell throughout the season he was

1103
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: struggling with how to coach Kirk Cousins. I found that

1104
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: exchange at the end of Buffalo game very interesting because

1105
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: Cousin just went rogue right, he went a quarterback seeking

1106
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: was short and Kevin O'Connell kind of figuring out how

1107
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: to process that as a coach for the first time.

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00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: And then you know, he mentioned it at a point like, hey,

1109
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: you just have to let Cousin sulk by himself before

1110
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: I know it. Just the dynamic of figuring out how

1111
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: to coach a player and were watching that in real

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00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: time because they had never coached together before. It does

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Speaker 1: take half a season.

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Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, I mean, I think there

1115
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Speaker 2: are ways to motivate a team, you know, like if

1116
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: you're a player, and I watched Patrick Mahomes, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're not motivated by him and his language and

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Speaker 2: he's dropping a couple of f bombs on the field

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00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: in the locker room and Kirk Cousins, to me was

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Speaker 2: almost like a gentleman. I didn't hear him kurse one time.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't, because it's just that's just not who

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Speaker 1: personality is. Again, you could you can tell why Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Cousins are not outside of the talent. Okay, now

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be. I put Eli Manning eln

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Speaker 1: Mann's on a yeller and screamer. He leads by actions.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. When Eli wanted to make

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Speaker 1: a point, he made the point like you you understood,

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Speaker 1: Like when Eli Gotpin spoke to you, He's like he

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Speaker 1: spoke to you like you knew. There was an impactful,

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Speaker 1: you know moment when when Eli was speaking, I didn't

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00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: get that sense with when Cousins was talking. The player

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00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: sort of felt quite the same way. I'm hearing you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Jeff Schwartz. Get him on Twitter at Jeff

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Speaker 1: That's next.

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Speaker 2: They can't be alone. We'll explain that in just about

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Speaker 2: a minute. He's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman. We have

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunny A Fox Sports Radio on Jeff. We

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Speaker 2: have to mention this man's name. We have to mention

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers at least for a second. Okay, he took

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00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: a thirty three point seven million dollars shave. According to reports,

1152
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: he was trying to get paid without receiving any cash.

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Speaker 1: How was you going to do that? He was trying to.

1154
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: Get ownership equity with the New York Jets, but the

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Speaker 2: NFL owners voted last week to put a ban on

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Speaker 2: giving ownership equity to players or team employees. So interesting

1157
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: right there what he tried to do. But you know

1158
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: the pressure is on him, and I guess he wants

1159
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Speaker 2: to play that second year right now rather than one

1160
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 2: year in New York.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is good because you know for the Jets

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Speaker 1: specific loves you saved money, but it locks him in

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Speaker 1: for an extra year. Right, there's always this cus about

1164
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: whether or not he was gonna play more than one season,

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, as your quarterback. Now that kind of tells

1166
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: you and look to you know, you have I guess

1167
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: more money. Now it's been other players, which is great.

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00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: You know, the equity stake thing was something that we

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00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: saw happen and I think in baseball didn Albert Pooles

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: get like a stake of Angels and and the ownership

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00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we're not doing that anymore. So it's

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Speaker 1: nothing that I sports franchises I think do much anymore

1173
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: is give ownership stakes to players. But nonetheless, you know,

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00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: imagine being a Packers fan right now and Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: just you know, he took less money to take the

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Speaker 1: Jets better. What for so many years he refused to

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Speaker 1: basically do anything like this to help the Packers. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of a slap in the face, you know, to

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Speaker 1: the package organization that that Rogers was so willing to

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: do this for the Jets, isn't it? Like that's the

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00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: the way I've.

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Speaker 2: Felt about this, right, And you know what to a man,

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00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: I would say, if you're a Green Bay package fan.

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Speaker 3: I think most of them are saying good riddance.

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00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: They glarse. No, they're very happy he's gone. There's there's

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: there's we know that. But I'm talking about just from

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00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: hey man, like, why do you do this when you

1188
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: were with us? Wow? Yeah, we could have used some

1189
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: of this restructuring to make sure that we had better players.

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00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: And maybe there was a thought that to Rogers that

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00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: the Packers were never going to get the players he wanted,

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00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: and so therefore he didn't make you know, he go

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00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: out of his way to help them save money. Fair fair,

1194
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying players that ever have to take

1195
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: less than Rogers did, because it helps teams build. Even

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00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: though we know that Mahomes has taken less and that's

1197
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: really helped the Chiefs build their roster around him. But

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00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: if you're a Packers fan, you probably feel a little

1199
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Speaker 1: bit pissed that he didn't do this when he was

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right, Dan, we'll see what happened. I mean,

1202
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: the pressure is on him and the Jets, Like you say,

1203
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: playoffs are bust. I would think that that's gonna be this,

1204
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: that's going to be the NA mantra this year. For

1205
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: that team. You talk about pressure, I'm talking about in college. Now,

1206
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: Northwestern University, they I fired the football coach Pat Fitzgerald

1207
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: on the tenth of July after announcing findings of a

1208
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: University commission hazing investigation. I'm sure it's not the only

1209
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: school in the country with hazing. But now there's not

1210
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Speaker 2: a coming out of the woodwork for a payday. Linebacker

1211
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Speaker 2: simber short because the fifth, the fifth ex football player

1212
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Speaker 2: for Northwestern to file the lawsuit against the school. He said,

1213
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: now he suffered emotional and psychological trauma after being hazed

1214
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: and bullied while in the program. You know what, So

1215
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: don't don't go along with the pack. You don't have

1216
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Speaker 2: to be hazed, right, I gotta tell me about this.

1217
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. Hazing can be the term sounds

1218
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: and most awful. We hear stories like in Northwestern, how

1219
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: terrible you know hazing can be, And it really can be.

1220
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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of us, for a lot

1221
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: of players, hazing was a team bonding experience, right, you know,

1222
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: and again for the kind of benign haze. Right, hey, rookie,

1223
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Speaker 1: go get me something.

1224
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Speaker 3: And carry my page, right.

1225
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: Like there's really some team bonding.

1226
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Speaker 2: Hazing because we see in the NFL on Hard Knocks

1227
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: they made the rookies go up and sing.

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01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: Right, well, it's a shared experience, right, like I've done it,

1229
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: you've done it, We've all done it together. It's a

1230
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: shared experience. There can be some benefits to hazing where

1231
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: it gets out of controls what we see in Northwestern.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I don't know, this is

1233
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: not even hazing. It's a weird sexual thing. Like I

1234
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: don't really understand, Like I don't really get it. To

1235
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I don't know why players Like

1236
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Speaker 1: why would you do it? I don't know why they

1237
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: would do this. It's it's very this this you can

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Speaker 1: look up the details of it. It's very sexual. And

1239
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Speaker 1: I don't I honestly don't understand why they went in

1240
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: this direction with the hazing. It's it's obviously some some

1241
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: group of players did it, and then the younger players

1242
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: who were Hayes just continued the tradition. The question with Northwestern,

1243
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Speaker 1: it's creepy hazing. It shouldn't happen, right, I'm very much

1244
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: against what happened with the type of hazing they did.

1245
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: Their is what do the coaches know and should they

1246
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: have stopped it? And when you're a head coach for

1247
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: seventeen years, you know what's happening in your building. And

1248
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Speaker 1: so I don't buy that the Patzer Joe did not

1249
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: know what was happening there.

1250
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Speaker 2: So could assume that Patrick Fitzgerald knew that hazing was

1251
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: going on, not just this year but for many years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, again, this is beyond the scope of what general

1253
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: hazing is, which tends to be very benign. It's team building,

1254
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, just you have a shared experience with

1255
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: with with younger players, and there's a lot of value

1256
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: I think in those shared experiences. This again, the sexual

1257
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: nature of what this was, that that's not a shared

1258
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: experience like that. That's just wrong. It's wrong. And again,

1259
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Speaker 1: if coach knew about it, is going to answer for it.

1260
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: We've heard players talk about the trauma, and I get it.

1261
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: If you're being you have ten twelve players dressed up

1262
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: in masks like it's it's it's just it's to me,

1263
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: it's it's odd. Man. I don't get why players would

1264
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: want to be involved in this type hazing like I

1265
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: would have if this happened to organ. Man. I promise

1266
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: you my class would have done it to the younger players,

1267
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: because I would be like at doing that. That's not

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 1: something that we're doing here. It's and if patha show

1269
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: knew about it and didn't stop it to me, to

1270
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Speaker 1: me that that's what the problem is at it's like me.

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Speaker 3: But but this is cool. They fired the baseball coach.

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Speaker 2: You have to fitzgerald them and the things these are

1273
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: going on in the baseball and now the athletic direct

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Speaker 2: I read this the other day in the USA today.

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Speaker 2: Derek Gragg, the athletic direct that has written a book,

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Speaker 2: Forty Days of Direction, and in the book has a

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Speaker 2: passage it says, quote, there is nothing worse than seeing

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Speaker 2: a beautiful, intelligent woman disrespect herself and those around that.

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Speaker 2: All you have to do is turn on a hip

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Speaker 2: hop music video or one of those several awful reality

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Speaker 2: television shows. You see women degrading themselves. I mean not great,

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Speaker 2: not great. And he's going to be gone next one

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Speaker 2: to go.

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Speaker 1: Well, so Northwestern as a new president. I was actually

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Speaker 1: the president formerly an organ. He's only been there a year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's he's got to deal with a message

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Speaker 1: here to clean up. Also, what I find interesting about

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Speaker 1: these stories. Is Northwestern like every kind of let's let's

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Speaker 1: call a major corporation. Okay, they pay a lot of

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Speaker 1: money to have PR firms right and to have people

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Speaker 1: help them with their public relations, and I find it

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Speaker 1: so fascinating how often they screw up the message.

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Speaker 3: Crisis management correct.

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Speaker 1: Like to suspend Patitzgerald two weeks during during really non

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Speaker 1: football like times right because there's no football right now.

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Speaker 1: Is was a mistake. Obviously, if you had suspended him

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Speaker 1: appropriately the first time, then maybe you're not here. If

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Speaker 1: you say, okay, patas Joe, you're suspended a month, I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're in this situation. You are now. But

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Speaker 1: instead you didn't You suspended him two weeks during non

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Speaker 1: football activities, and now the players have revolted. They could

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Speaker 1: have easily handled this differently and they wouldn't be in

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Speaker 1: the situation, but they just didn't punish patash like they

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Speaker 1: should have. They did not te players that there were

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01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: Now do I think there's a little bit of some

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Speaker 1: players probably using this opportunity make a quick book, Sure,

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Speaker 1: but I do think there's real emotional trauma here with

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Speaker 1: some of the hazing. If the reports are correct, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is beyond the typical hazing we see.

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Speaker 2: And remember the initial The initial story came out in

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Speaker 2: the school newspaper. I don't know how credible that is,

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Speaker 2: the Northwestern Daily newspaper, and that's where they thought it.

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Speaker 2: They're in president, I guess got their information from without

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Speaker 2: a true investigation.

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Speaker 1: Really well, the reason why the school newspaper played in

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Speaker 1: port role here is because the North Northwestern didnt appear

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Speaker 1: to be doing anything themselves, and so the school newspaper

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Speaker 1: ended up being the one who the who, the the

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Speaker 1: you know who the students got in contact with, who

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Speaker 1: shared the story right, And I.

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Speaker 2: Think to some extent that the administration wheted. They turn

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Speaker 2: their heads a little bit on Patrick Fitzgerald. Give him

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Speaker 2: a break because he's a favorite son. He played football

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Speaker 2: there and coached there sixteen seventeen years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, perhaps, yeah, well no, perhaps, I think that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're right, exactly right, and we'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens. But again, it'll be tough for him to

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Speaker 2: hook on with another school round. I think I think

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Speaker 2: eventually he will be an assistant coach somewhere, but time

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Speaker 2: will heal.

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Speaker 1: He will be he'll be analysts first somewhere. He'll be

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Speaker 1: fine eventually.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go, all right, Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Right now, Why is

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Speaker 2: this team becoming so hard to root for? That's coming

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Speaker 2: up next ride in a Fox Sports Sunday Live for

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Speaker 2: the Tiraq dot com studio. But first it's Kevin Wyatt

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Speaker 2: with the update.

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Speaker 6: Well the FIFA Women's World Cup in action, a thrilling

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Speaker 6: matchup between Germany and Columbia. Columbia took the lead in

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Speaker 6: the fifty third minute one nil. Germany would tie things up.

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Speaker 6: It would be in the eighty ninth minute on a

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Speaker 6: penalty kick to make it one to one. But in

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Speaker 6: the ninety seventh minute, in stoppage time, Columbia re seizing

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Speaker 6: the lead, and that's where they lead it now to one.

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Speaker 6: They are in stoppage time, so they're playing until the

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Speaker 6: whistle blows. And actually now the whistle has just blown

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Speaker 6: and Columbia finishes off Germany two to one. Everything else

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Speaker 6: on Sunday has gone final. Norway dismantling the Philippines six nil. Switzerland.

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01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 6: New Zealand played to a scoreless draw. Morocco hoods off

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Speaker 6: South Korea one nil. The US women's national team. They'll

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Speaker 6: be back in action next on Monday. They will play Portugal.

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Speaker 6: As for boxing big matchup in Las Vegas on Saturday.

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Speaker 6: Terrence Crawford is now forty to zero. He owns all

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Speaker 6: four welterweight title belts after he beat Nyl Spence in

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Speaker 6: a ninth round technical knockout. The fight ended after a

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Speaker 6: he knocked out his opponent both on the second round,

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Speaker 6: twice in the seventh, and then another knockdown on the

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Speaker 6: ninth ended it. There, Crawford the first undisputed one hundred

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Speaker 6: and forty seven pound champion in the four belt era.

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Speaker 6: In Major League Baseball, the Mets sending Max Serzer to

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Speaker 6: the Rangers in exchange FORAA short step Louis Angel Acunya,

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Speaker 6: who is the brother of Royal Lucunya Sirsar. Waving his

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Speaker 6: no trade clause, he did opt in for next season

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 6: with the Rangers. The Mets paying Texas over thirty five

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Speaker 6: million dollars to help offset Shuzer's salary. Major League Baseball

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Speaker 6: scores from Saturday, the Braves beat the Brewers eleven to five.

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Speaker 6: Acunya hitting his twenty fourth homer and stealing his fiftieth

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Speaker 6: base this season. The Cubs now make it eight straight wins.

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Speaker 6: They beat the Cardinals five to one. The Cardinals also

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Speaker 6: saying that they will not be trading Nolan Arenada. Battle

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Speaker 6: of the worst in the AL in the National League,

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Speaker 6: Oakland beats Colorado eleven to three. Kansas City they hold

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Speaker 6: on to beat the first place Twins ten to seven.

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01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 6: Minnesota is still a game and a half ahead of

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Speaker 6: the Cleveland Guardians, and that's because they lost seven to

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Speaker 6: two to the White Sox. Yankees beat the Baltimore Orioles

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Speaker 6: eight three. That's because they got home runs from gen

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Speaker 6: Carlos Stanton Aarren Judge the Yankees thirty and three. When

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Speaker 6: that happens when they both hit a home run in

1382
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 6: the same game. The Giants and Boston's five game winning

1383
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 6: streak as they get a walk off home run from JD. Davis,

1384
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 6: they win that one three to two. Diamondbacks get a

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01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 6: run in the eighth, they had to beat the Mariners

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 6: four to three. Angels lose to the Blue Jays again

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 6: six to one. The Astros with a destruction of the

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01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 6: race seventeen to four. They had five home runs and

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers edged the Reds three two. They only got

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Speaker 6: two hits in that game, but they were two Max

1391
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Speaker 6: Munsey home runs that proved to be the difference.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, thanks Kevin. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: a boxing guy, right, did you? Did you enjoy the

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: fight last night? Was it? That's in? Are you taught

1395
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: to capito me? I thought you're a boxing fan. No, no,

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01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: not really. I thought you were thought like, you know,

1397
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: no offense, but people of your of your age had

1398
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: to be boxing fans because so you kind of grew

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Speaker 1: up with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right about that, But there was a time

1401
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 3: when I really did enjoy it.

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: But right now I thought you were a boxing fan.

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01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the highlights this morning,

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01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: look at Oh yeah, this morning I saw of highlights.

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01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I was. I went to bed. I legit.

1406
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: We went to the legit bed last night at seven

1407
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Wow, because it fact from Hawaii. Well, well,

1408
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: we flew the red We flew the Red Eye back

1409
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: from Hawaii Friday night, landing in Dallas at eight am,

1410
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 1: seven am Central time, landed back in Charlotte at one pm.

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01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: Ended being like a twelve hour trip and I slept

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: for two hours of the twelve, so we it's been

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: a struggle. We were up for like two hours in

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: the middle of the night last night with my son,

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01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: who didn't sleep very well. But nonetheless, I saw a

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01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: lot of the highlights look like fun. I thought, thought

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Speaker 1: you thought you were a boxing guy. My bad. I

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Speaker 1: thought you were. That's okay, enjoyed the box and matches.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a violent individual, really, that's you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you be a violent person to a

1422
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: good fight. I saw the knockout last night, a couple

1423
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: of those knockouts. I mean the Lewis guy knocked that

1424
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: guy on thirty seconds. It was awesome. He did.

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Speaker 2: It's very It's unbelievable, it really is. I just I

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: don't know how they do it. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: you would do it. I don't know how they do it,

1428
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: but they do it, and that's fine. But by the way,

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Speaker 2: it's not their plays their attitude into that. In a minute,

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Speaker 2: he's Jeff Schwartz, I mean, Dey Furman. We are Fox

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. We want to talk about the US

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Speaker 2: women's soccer team. And I didn't give it a second though,

1440
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 2: really until I read my buddy Phil Mushnick and Friday's

1441
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: New York Post. He wrote that it's very hard to

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Speaker 2: root for the girls. Okay, he's saying that they're conceded,

1443
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: they're vulgar, they're selfish, they call them the team team obnoxious,

1444
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: they're there a turnoff. They're all about me antics, Meghan Rappino.

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: I mean twenty nineteen when the US beat England, Alex

1446
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 2: Morgan scored, then she ran to the sidelines so everybody

1447
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: can see her mocked the opponents by momming English tea time.

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01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: It was classless. You know, I never thought of it

1449
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: in that regard. I watched the game as a game,

1450
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe they are vulgar, maybe they are selfish,

1451
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: but and conceded. But it didn't bother me. Until I

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Speaker 2: read that. What's your take on the women's team?

1453
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: Well, if the men did any of those things, would

1454
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: they be conceded in vulgar and would they be looked

1455
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: at any negative lights? No, asking if the men's team

1456
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: would be expecting.

1457
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 2: I would think what it would be expected out of

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Speaker 2: the men.

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Speaker 1: I think, right, So, why can't the women do that?

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01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: Because maybe they're women. Maybe that's why he's looking at

1461
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: in that manner he's running in that sense that women

1462
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 2: shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 3: But they're athletes. Their athletes said, I I'm with you.

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: I saw that girl Horan I think her name was,

1465
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: and she got into it with that with that girl

1466
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: from the from from the Netherlands the other night. I

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01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: loved it. Actually came right back and headed a goal

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Speaker 2: and I watched a game.

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Speaker 1: If it's affecting their play, then that's a problem. But

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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,520
Speaker 1: if they're just being brash and talking to their opponents

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: and cocky enjoying there, they're the one team in the world.

1472
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Speaker 1: Like again, if the men did this, it's the same

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01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: article being read in the answer is no, okay, So

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Speaker 1: I think that you need to let it go whoever

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: this writer is, and you need to just accept that

1476
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: the young women now don't act in a way that

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01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: maybe you thought they should, but that if the men

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: did this, you never ever in this article, And I

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 1: think it's an air of confidence.

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Speaker 2: You've won back to back World Cups going for the third,

1481
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: no one's ever done that. It's you should be fresh

1482
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 2: and confident, really, And because.

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Speaker 1: Of the time difference. I did not watch much of

1484
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: the match against the Netherlands. I know that I read

1485
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: about it and there were some reports. You know, the

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Speaker 1: US was a little cocky maybe and it kind of

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Speaker 1: didn't play as they should. Will find out obviously in

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 1: their next match. Whether they learn their lesson if you

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01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: want to write about that, be my guest. But to

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01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: say that they're they're too confident, they talk come on,

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01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: grow up, okay here. If the men did this, you

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01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: would have no problem with it. But because it's the women,

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01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: because you expect women to act a certain way on

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: the field, the pitch, it's those ways have changed.

1495
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 3: You know what a pitch it's any spot.

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01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: I've seen it when the women were playing the n

1497
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: Cuba Women's basketball tournament, same thing. I mean, that's the

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: way it is. When you're an athlete, you you you

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: beat to a different drum. Your cocky you are, you

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Speaker 2: are Urgan. I think that's what separates you from from

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Speaker 2: winning and losing sometimes.

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01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all four it me too. The women keep

1503
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: keep being your right, keep keep you know, show your personalities,

1504
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: play your butts off, and I and witness. I just

1505
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: think it's to me. I I this is not the

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: direction that I would have gone if I was talking

1507
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: about this US. Thank you, I'm with you, and I'm

1508
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: rooting for them. I am.

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01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: I am rooting for them. Joh I'm ruining for you too.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Sports Sunday, There we go. Now, he

1511
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Speaker 2: was an NFL star talking about you, but let's face it,

1512
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: he's far from that in this game.

1513
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Speaker 2: Bottom Beryl Betting coming right up. It's about ten minutes

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Speaker 2: before the top of the hour. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm

1529
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: Andy Fermerwell live from the tiraq dot com studios, and

1530
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: right now it's time to play.

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Speaker 1: So let's do it. It's Bottom Bottom mil put my

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: money to sleep, people, get my money.

1533
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Speaker 3: I'll put your brain to sleep, Betting.

1534
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it is it. There is only one man, one

1535
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,520
Speaker 2: man who could handle a game of this magnitude.

1536
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: His name is Ethan Miller.

1537
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 8: Here he is, Hey, guys, how you doing there?

1538
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? E?

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 4: You know, just you know, hanging here with you guys,

1540
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 4: getting my getting my document up.

1541
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 8: Of course. So last week you both went.

1542
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 3: Three and two, which is well he wasn't here.

1543
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 4: I mean sorry, you and your son went three he

1544
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 4: was who was here? I forget who was here?

1545
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 8: Was it plank?

1546
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: Last week? It was playing?

1547
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, well I have planking.

1548
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 4: You you both went three and two. That's really exciting.

1549
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 4: Here we go. Aren't to the World Cup Women's World Cup?

1550
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 4: Because why not? Nice little segment you guys had there. Yep,

1551
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 4: here we go. I got Costa Rica vers the You

1552
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 4: know what, let's do Japan versus Spain both to pick them.

1553
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: I'll take Japan to be really good.

1554
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think you know what, I don't

1555
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 3: think so, I don't think they are.

1556
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 2: I got Spain. I think Spain's the teeth to beat.

1557
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: And in this game, not not in the tournament, but

1558
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: in this game. I think I got Spain. When did

1559
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,480
Speaker 2: they play, by the way, played.

1560
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 4: To play tomorrow at twelve am?

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01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: They got it.

1562
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: They got every game on serious XM eight three. You

1563
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: know they do every single game.

1564
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 4: I actually have to get those, uh, get those games

1565
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 4: for the for the station.

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 8: Very exciting.

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01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to cricket. Could you guys love that

1568
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 4: the Ashes? The Ashes tournament, it's England versus Australia. Sounds

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: like a good one in cricket, you said, yeah, in cricket.

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01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: I think I think I'll tell Australia this one. Yeah,

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01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: Australia is a better, better cricket squad.

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01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: Do they really have? I mean, are you just saying

1573
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: that because I mean, I respect you cricket knowledge.

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01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 1: This is something I have not way Jon personally.

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm going with England then, because you

1576
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,879
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm going with England.

1577
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: Take a draw.

1578
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: They have a longer history in cricket. I think England

1579
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: does in Australia.

1580
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 8: Just saying the draw is there too if you want

1581
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 8: to take that.

1582
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: No, no, we don't. But it's pay draws country.

1583
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 8: Cool.

1584
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 3: I got England, all right?

1585
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 8: Next next, next onto the w n b A.

1586
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 4: We're going to go with the New York Liberty versus

1587
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 4: the LA Sparks today.

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01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: Let me just say one thing. This is bottom berrel

1589
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: betting to put the New York Liberty and bottom barrel.

1590
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: That's almost like a slap in the face. But that's okay.

1591
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 8: What is it like? Is that like a violation to

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01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 8: you or something?

1593
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just saying I think they deserve a

1594
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 2: little more respect with that, so I shove them in there?

1595
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 8: Are you shaming? Am I getting shamed right now?

1596
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: A little bit?

1597
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 3: You will ask I'm untrusting you.

1598
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 8: Hey, you know what, I'm sorry? Women playing again.

1599
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 4: It's the Liberties versus the sparks plus nine.

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01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 8: The sparks are plus nine.

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01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: I should take my hometown, my hometown sparks here as

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01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: an l A guy. However, the New York Liberty have

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01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: Sabrina a Nescu and so she's the goat of all

1604
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: time at Organ school. I'm taking I'm taking the Liberty here.

1605
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: And they also have Brianna Stewart.

1606
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're Ruth the heberd I believe it was. Also,

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Speaker 1: By the.

1608
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: Way, where's this game being where's this game being played at?

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 8: It's in l A.

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: There's a big home. Yeah. The sports taking the spots

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01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: with nine? I take the spots with nine?

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01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 8: All right, very exciting. Yes, On to lacrosse? Is that alright?

1613
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: Is lacrosse?

1614
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 8: Okay?

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01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: Sure?

1616
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 8: And they're men.

1617
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 4: So it's the water Dogs versus the Archers plus one

1618
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 4: and a half the water Dogs.

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: Good, got'll be the water Dogs. Okay, the Arches. That'll

1620
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Speaker 1: be it? All right? Okay.

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Speaker 2: One NFL star isn't happy. That's next. I'm Fox. Are

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Speaker 2: And I guess the big story in the NFL, which

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Speaker 2: hard to believe, it gets on the way this week,

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Speaker 2: Jeff NFL.

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Speaker 1: Fill full this week. Baby can wait? I can't wait?

1634
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess you a different mindset right now,

1635
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: and it's bad news for the sport of Major League

1636
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: Baseball because all of a sudden, they're pushed to the background.

1637
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: It's all football right now now till February.

1638
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: Which is crazy because right now baseball has like the

1639
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: best player of all time right now in Shoheo Tani

1640
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: who through a complete game that hit two home runs

1641
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: in the next game. It's crazy, right it really is.

1642
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I don't want to get involved too

1643
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: heavily in baseball right now, but they don't do much

1644
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: to help themselves. They have the Hall of Fame induction

1645
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: last week on a Sunday at one o'clock. Why can't

1646
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: they do it on a separate day when no one's playing,

1647
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: because everybody's playing baseball that day. I have it in

1648
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 2: the evening so National TV could see it in primetime.

1649
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they stubbed their own tow every time they

1650
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:47,839
Speaker 2: try to do something correct.

1651
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: It's not great. Baseball just doesn't market themselves as well

1652
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,520
Speaker 1: as they should, you know. Plus again, like having Otawni

1653
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: be as good as he is and the Angels basically

1654
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: fighting desperately for playoff birth is not great, but that's

1655
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: where they're at. I mean, it just it's hard. Yeah,

1656
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to care until the postseason a long that's

1657
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: a long it's a long season. Matter.

1658
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing because the pennant races in Major League

1659
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 2: Baseball and Otani, which is a great story in itself,

1660
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: is taking a second seat to running backs in the

1661
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: National Football which happens to be the big story right

1662
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 2: now because Titans running back Derek Henry he's not happy

1663
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: with the way his position is being treated, and look,

1664
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 2: it's not being treated fairly. The franchise tags are placed

1665
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: on Tony Pollad in Dallas. Josh Jacobs, the guy who

1666
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 2: led the league in rushing and Saquon Barkley who just

1667
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 2: signed the one year deal with the Giants, and the

1668
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: Giants didn't do him any favors because they can tag

1669
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: him again next year with the way he signed that deal.

1670
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, running backs right now are in a very tough spot.

1671
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: And I feel bad for them because you know, you

1672
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: would you would love for everything to be equal and

1673
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: all players to get paid exactly what there were, you know,

1674
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: not what they're worth, but exactly kind of what they want.

1675
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: And everyone makes a ton of money and everyone's happy

1676
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,839
Speaker 1: and and whatnot, and there's you know, never any issues

1677
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: with with contracts. But what's happening right now is NFL

1678
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: teams are looking around and saying, look, man, the numbers.

1679
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: And you can blame analytics all you want, but you

1680
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: just your eyeballs and the and the results each year

1681
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: tell us that paying these running backs it doesn't seem

1682
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: to be worth. You know, the squeeze is not worth

1683
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: It's not the Jews is not worth the squeeze, right.

1684
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 1: And there's so many examples of this, whether it's Zeke Elliott,

1685
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: whether you know it's Dalvin Cook, whether it's you know,

1686
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: it's it's even you know, the extent of Derek Henry, Like, yeah,

1687
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: Derek Henry got paid a lot of money, but how

1688
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: much winning of the Titans done? How much winning have

1689
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: they done? Like has that been justified? In Super Bowl?

1690
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: Even Super Bowl appearances, even Super Bowl births? The last

1691
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: ten super Bowl champions. They're running back are making next

1692
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: to nothing right there, They're free agents, their seventh round

1693
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: draft picks. There's nothing that shows running backs are worth

1694
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: what they hope they're worth. And it sucks, it's not fun.

1695
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: It stings for them, right, I hope. But I thinks

1696
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: for the position.

1697
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: If I'm a high school football player, I tell my

1698
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 2: coach I don't want to be a running back. If

1699
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: I have any sort of talent. I'm an old state

1700
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 2: player and I have an opportunity maybe to go to

1701
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: the NFL, I don't want to be a running back,

1702
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,520
Speaker 2: to be a cornerback.

1703
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: But but Andy, the issue I think with that, as

1704
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: I know some of guys are natural gifted running back,

1705
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: is what is the solution? Right? Because I know that

1706
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: running backs are saying, hey, you know, we need to

1707
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: be a union, we need to do this, and that,

1708
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: like they need to pay us more. Well, I can

1709
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 1: make the argument very easily. They're like centers. Offensive centers

1710
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: don't get paid enough money. They don't look at how

1711
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: much centers make. It's actually less than running backs. There's

1712
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: all like you know, thirty two of them, and half

1713
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 1: of them are probably pretty good, should be paid a

1714
01:24:58,600 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: lot more.

1715
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 2: But I hate to dumb on that position. But there's

1716
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: not considered a quote skilled position. I mean, right, I

1717
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: mean running back, receiver, quarterback skill position.

1718
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: Look at the best offenses in the NFL. How many

1719
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: of them have have one of the top centers in

1720
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: the league.

1721
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 2: Well, right, the Chiefs. Yeah, No, you're right, I'm not

1722
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: the position tight end.

1723
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: By the way, tight ends are extremely underpaid. Okay, they

1724
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: get tagged and Titan gets tagged. Now, it's a tight end,

1725
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: not a wide receiver. And though most of those guys

1726
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: play wide receiver. I don't know what the solution is

1727
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: other than having a running back sort of be the

1728
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: reason why you win. Now, Christian McCaffrey is the closest

1729
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:43,799
Speaker 1: right now, right.

1730
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 3: But he's more than a running back. He's a receiver

1731
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 3: to the bothie.

1732
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: No, right, he's both. He's dual. He's dual. He's the

1733
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: guy that does both and most running backs now are

1734
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: kind of these dual.

1735
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: Threat guys, right, and you go back to the tight end.

1736
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 2: You just mentioned that tight end position is more from

1737
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 2: just a blocker to a receiver. Years ago was just

1738
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 2: a blocking position.

1739
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's not anymore obviously, So I feel awful

1740
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: for that. I played with Adrian Peterson, I played with

1741
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles, Jonathan Stewart, Dan Joe Williams, like great running backs,

1742
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: guys that really helped my career. They absolutely did. But

1743
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what the argument is for them to

1744
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: get more than what the market says they're worth.

1745
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, there's a lot of information coming

1746
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: out right now to dump on running backs because of

1747
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: the past six Super Bowl champions, none of them had

1748
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: a thousand yard runner. In fact, those teams leading rushes

1749
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,879
Speaker 2: have averaged eight hundred eight yards.

1750
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: Now.

1751
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 2: Of the past fifteen champions, three had a thousand yard

1752
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 2: russia only one of them, the Seahawks Marshawn Lynch in

1753
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, with as many as twelve hundred yards. So

1754
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: they're dumping on the position right now. Statistically, that's what

1755
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: they're doing right now.

1756
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,839
Speaker 1: So Jonathan, I woke up this morning to the news

1757
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Taylor, the cold trunning back, has requested a trade,

1758
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 1: and he says, I'm not letting him go. Right, he says,

1759
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm not letting him go. But I also find interesting

1760
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: is Ersam pulled up the quote down to make sure

1761
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: this is correct. Said. He also said, if I die

1762
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: to this er, I said right quote. If I die

1763
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: tonight and Jonathan Taylor is out of the league, no

1764
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: one's going to miss us. The league goes on. So

1765
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: obviously Jonathan Taylor asked for more money and he said

1766
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 1: no for that reason. And I don't know what happens

1767
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: next because I was I was hopeful Jonathan Taylor would

1768
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: be the player who reset this discussion. Oh okay, well

1769
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: they paid Jonathan Taylor. That must mean these other guys

1770
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: are gonna get paid. It doesn't sound that it's going

1771
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: to happen.

1772
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 2: Because you know why, they do deserve they get paid.

1773
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 2: But I think pay him. But nobody wants to blink.

1774
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to be the first one, because every owner

1775
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 2: is going to point the say you did it. You

1776
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: are the reason why we have to pay these guys

1777
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: more money.

1778
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: Here exactly right. You know, running backs, they're in a

1779
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: tough spot man, You could really a couple of things

1780
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: that the trace back to the issues that they're in.

1781
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: What is the rookie wage scale, which got implemented I

1782
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: believe after the twenty eleven CBA that really that really

1783
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: really hurt the entire sport, honestly because it gave fixed

1784
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: cost for rookies and guys outperform, their deals really are

1785
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: now stuck. If you're running back in the first round,

1786
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: you have a five year contract, then two franchise tag years,

1787
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: you're not a free agent n till year eight. Not great, right,

1788
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: And the fixed cost of first round draft picks essentially

1789
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: drives down the price of franchise tags, drives down the

1790
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: price of general fregency deals. It was not a good

1791
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: thing that that, you know, this rookie wage skiale kind

1792
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: of locked in the prices for these young players and

1793
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: they're at a difficult spot man. Is it is? The

1794
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: union is not doing about it because it's only affects

1795
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,480
Speaker 1: a handful of running backs well.

1796
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: And part of the situation, I think maybe I'm off

1797
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: based on this that they realize that the average running

1798
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 2: back is only good for me two to two and

1799
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: a half years, and that's it. Good look Arizona Connells.

1800
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: They signed David Johnson three years, thirty nine million, an

1801
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: extension of twenty eighteen. This guy hasn't rushed for one

1802
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: thousand US since and he's dumped by the.

1803
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 3: Car back in twenty twenty. I mean, he couldn't get

1804
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 3: it done.

1805
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: Now.

1806
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: Obviously, if you have a poor offensive line, you know

1807
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 2: that you are an offensive lineman. That that's a big

1808
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: fact with their running back. But other than that, it

1809
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 2: is okay.

1810
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Think about the average game a little bit. Is that

1811
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: the average length of you, that's the average length of

1812
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: NFL career is three years. Right? The running back is

1813
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: no different than any other position. The issue is that

1814
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: the high end player, right, the Tae Kwon Barclays, the

1815
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's, is that when you're that good Christian McCaffrey

1816
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 1: for that many years and other positions, you play to

1817
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: your thirty five to forty years old, right, Like we're

1818
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: seeing off of the tackles. Now, you know they're thirty

1819
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: five years old and they're prime, thirty four years old

1820
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: in their prime, still going to play for three to

1821
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 1: five more seasons. Quarterbacks obviously playing to their forty defensive

1822
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: end pass rushers playing into their into their mid to

1823
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: late thirties all over the field, right, these these these

1824
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: these these premium positions, and they're making money from the

1825
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: time they enter league at twenty one, twenty two, twenty

1826
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: three years old to their forty. The problem for running

1827
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: backs is that you get to like thirty men and

1828
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: your body is broken and you're not able to play

1829
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: that extra ten years. The rest of the NFL is

1830
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: able to play, So it's not really the average. You know,

1831
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: the counting with the four string running back, you know

1832
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,839
Speaker 1: how counting his his his time in the NFL against

1833
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: the average of a starting running back. Is that the

1834
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: length and the earning ability for so many years after

1835
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: you're thirty kind of stops if you're running back, because

1836
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: you know how, it's productive. The numbers show that, right

1837
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: the way.

1838
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: It reminds me when you're telling me this, it reminds

1839
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 2: me of going back to the Netflix series on Quarterbacks

1840
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 2: when Kirk Cousins keeps on getting hit and you hear

1841
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 2: him saying, oh, oh, I mean the pain that he

1842
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: was laying on the ground, and it amazed me, really,

1843
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, how much pain could one one person take?

1844
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's good for a body

1845
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: to be hit like that. And he was hit pretty

1846
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 2: good well, but said it hurt when he breathed.

1847
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: The rib injuries, by the way, are extremely painful, and

1848
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 1: so I'm glad he's he's doing fine. I mean, you'd

1849
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: be surprised even just like I would sometimes, you know,

1850
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: every couple of years, get a little cartilage, you know,

1851
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Carlage would be hitting the rib underneath the shoulder paths.

1852
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: It would just hurt like heck, man, oh it hurt

1853
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: a lot, way more than you think a little rib

1854
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: cartilage would would would would hurt you. But yeah, you

1855
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: play through pain. I mean it's part of the NFL.

1856
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, cousins, you know, yeah he was in pain,

1857
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: but he also didn't miss a practice or a game.

1858
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: So the pain, you know, you're able to manage. Obviously,

1859
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: you mentally kind of you're over and you manage it.

1860
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: So running backs obviously the pain they go through.

1861
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 2: And but the one thing I don't understand that there

1862
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: is no one at least in the media defending the

1863
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 2: running backs because the situation right now, whether you are

1864
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 2: getting done.

1865
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 1: What are you gonna what are you gonna say?

1866
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 2: Well, you would think that someone would come out and say, wait,

1867
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 2: it's not right, it's not fair.

1868
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: Well, plenty of said, plenty of said that on a

1869
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: personal level, right, on a personal level, get paid. But

1870
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: on a practical level, what argument do I have to

1871
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: make because you mentioned it? If you say, well, they're

1872
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: important to the run game, okay, well, I would argue

1873
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: offensive line is more import been running back in general, right, Like,

1874
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: if you have a poor offensive on your running back

1875
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: is not gonna do anything good. Offensive lines can make

1876
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: running backs look better than they are, right, And I

1877
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 1: guess and vice versa other's running backs at times, but

1878
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: for the most part, if he can't if he can't block,

1879
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: you won't have a good.

1880
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 2: No, I'm here with you saying, but what I'm reading

1881
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 2: and hearing and commentators and talk show hosts, they're basically

1882
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 2: giving me all the information why the running backs should

1883
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 2: not get paid, Like I read this of the day.

1884
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Any My point is that what is the argument for

1885
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 1: them getting paid?

1886
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 2: I have value the value of an offensive unit to

1887
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 2: run out the clock when you were ahead, to.

1888
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Sure, but that's but I could say the same. But

1889
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 1: I can say, well, look at the seven other examples

1890
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: of teams that didn't have those guys and ran the

1891
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: clock out right, you know you're right?

1892
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And only five running backs in the last forty

1893
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 2: years have been the best player on Super Bowl Day,

1894
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 2: mostly SI Terrell Davis super Bowl forty two, Yeah, nineteen

1895
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 2: ninety seven. But comparison, five receivers have been Super Bowl MVP.

1896
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: Here's the way to look at this too, is that

1897
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: so Adrian Peterson will be in the Hall of Fame, right,

1898
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he has yet. Derek Henry will be

1899
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. And then who's the next

1900
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: running back to be in the Hall of Fame? Christian McCaffrey. Maybe, maybe,

1901
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe, Like we're at a point now where that

1902
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: position is so devalued that we'ren't even to have like

1903
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: players on rosters who we think are going to be

1904
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:27,520
Speaker 1: Hall of famers.

1905
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: But another position that was deval was the fullback. I

1906
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 2: no one made a big whoop about that. I mean,

1907
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: what two teams have fullbacks right now? What the Rams

1908
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: and the and the Ravens, Right, that's about it?

1909
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: No, the Chiefs, the Chiefs Chiefs full back typically, but

1910
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: no one made a big to do about obviously. I

1911
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: think by Rams, you met Niners right because the rams.

1912
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:48,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I don't.

1913
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Speaker 2: Think anybody made a big to do about the fullback

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Speaker 2: position being illimini.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not as flashy. You'll get fantasy points

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Speaker 1: for having a fallback as your unless you have you know,

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Speaker 1: college juice deck music check. I should say so, I

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Speaker 1: understand again, it's hard to make any argument with facts

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Speaker 1: of what we see on Sunday and what we know

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Speaker 1: the analytics tell us, and I hate blame it. Do

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Speaker 1: not blame analytics for this, So don't don't be that

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Speaker 1: personal like analytics the reason why. Yeah maybe, but also

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Speaker 1: your our eyeballs and the results in the field tell

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Speaker 1: us that we don't need analytics to tell us that.

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Speaker 1: So there's a feelings argument. I feel like running backs

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Speaker 1: should get more money because I like the running back position.

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Speaker 1: I like the players that play that position. They put

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Speaker 1: a lot of time and effort and body, you know,

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Speaker 1: and their bodies in the law, you know, in the way,

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Speaker 1: in harm's way to be good. And there's no but

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Speaker 1: there's no fact argument. There's nothing you can say where

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Speaker 1: you're like, this is the reason why, then here here's

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Speaker 1: here's on the field reason why these guys should get paid,

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Speaker 1: there's not one to be made.

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Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing is, I mean, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen with this, but Derek Henry,

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Speaker 2: who is going to have a zoom call to generate

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Speaker 2: some dialogue to get the message out that running backs

1939
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Speaker 2: aren't happy with the position and how the position is

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Speaker 2: being viewed. So what could he possibly do. You's got

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Speaker 2: to stick his handy, you gotta get you gotta stick

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Speaker 2: your hand and the owner's wallet.

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Speaker 3: That's how you change it. And it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, because if if the running backs all sit out,

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Speaker 1: let's just say they all sit out. Okay, let's just

1946
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Speaker 1: like use let's just the well, just find other guys.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs have some of the Chiefs have to the

1948
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Speaker 1: running back in the first round, clide Ord Hilaire, who

1949
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Speaker 1: has not been any good. They're playing with a seven

1950
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Speaker 1: running back who was who was, who's been? Who's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never gonna happen because they look at it

1952
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Speaker 2: this way. After two years, they didn't want to give

1953
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Speaker 2: the guy a second contract. They figured his legs and

1954
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 2: bodies worn, the treads and the tire are gone. Get

1955
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Speaker 2: a new kid for a lot less money out of college.

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Speaker 2: He could do the same thing. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I feel for the running backs. It just

1958
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Speaker 1: is not great. It's their livelihood. They want to get paid.

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Speaker 1: I'm with I get all these arguments, but it's hard

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Speaker 1: otherwise to make it our factual argument to why this

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Speaker 1: year paid more money.

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Speaker 2: We do have an argument coming up. We'll get that

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Speaker 2: in the next segment. Right now, he's Jeff Schwartz, I'm

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman. Get us on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz, GEO f F. Schwartz.

1965
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Speaker 2: I'll read them, retweet him whatever you want us to

1966
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Speaker 2: do at Andy Furman FSR bet. He had eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox. If you have a comment

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Speaker 2: eight if you're a running back, if you're a high

1969
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Speaker 2: school kid playing football, tell your coach I don't want

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Speaker 2: to play running back anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: This this hour, we have the blame game. Now a

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Speaker 2: general manager has all the answers about money. We'll do

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Speaker 2: that next. You don't have to be a mathematician to

1976
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Speaker 2: figure it out. That's right around the corner. He's Jeff Schwartz,

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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman and welcome, Welcome, welcome everybody to the

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Speaker 2: ti iraq dot com studios. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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1983
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Speaker 2: yourself at Discovered dot com. Forward's last March match, and

1984
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Speaker 2: of course, uh we talk about the running back situation.

1985
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Speaker 2: One guy, one general manager in the NFL had something

1986
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Speaker 2: to say about it. That was the Steelers general manager

1987
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Speaker 2: Omar Khan. He says, running backs are being devalued because

1988
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: of a massive new quarterback contract. Duh, we knew that,

1989
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Speaker 2: But why cut out the running back Jeff Schwartz? Why

1990
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Speaker 2: not some of the defensive side of the ball?

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Speaker 1: Well was he? I don't think he was there with

1992
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Speaker 1: Lady on Bell. I mean, you've had opportunities to pay

1993
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Speaker 1: running backs in Pittsburgh and haven't. Is he gonna pay?

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Speaker 1: Naji Harris Like, it's all great to talk about those things,

1995
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Speaker 1: but are you gonna Are you gonna quote unquote fix

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Speaker 1: the problem? Right? I just know they're could do any

1997
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Speaker 1: of that. So it's great to say that, but are

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Speaker 1: you going to pay the running back in Pittsburgh? Are

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Speaker 1: gonna pay Naujis after the season? Is that mething that

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Speaker 1: you're willing to know?

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Speaker 2: He said that I quoted the I've not talked to

2002
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Speaker 2: Nagi specifically about that.

2003
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Speaker 1: He says.

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Speaker 2: We talk the time. I don't think Nagi wants to

2005
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Speaker 2: talk to him about the weather. He wants to talk

2006
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Speaker 2: to you about his contract. I see him every day.

2007
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Speaker 2: This is what Con said. We just have enough conversation.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's no. I don't think that's the

2009
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Speaker 1: case where he's He's like not, they don't. They're not

2010
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Speaker 1: talking twenty four to seven about.

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Speaker 3: Well in his agent's gonna do talking not Nagy.

2012
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Speaker 1: But like they're definitely not talking about extending him right now.

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Speaker 1: Put it like that, and.

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Speaker 2: Why would they? All Right, But here's the thing, it

2015
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Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of sense. The Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo,

2016
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Speaker 2: he's the eighteenth highest paid quarterback. The Raiders gave their

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Speaker 2: leading rusher in the lead, Josh Jacobs, the franchise tag.

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Speaker 2: So basically what Con said, you know, it kind of

2019
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 2: sounds nice on the service. But it's not entirely true

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Speaker 2: because Garoppolo is not making a hell of a lot

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Speaker 2: of money and they got the leading rusher in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League with the franchise tag.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: No, it makes no sense. But again I keep bringing

2025
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Speaker 1: this up. Is it I need it? You have to

2026
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Speaker 1: show me if you're the Raiders, what's more important to

2027
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Speaker 1: your success this season? Is it? Is not? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, Josh Jacobs being really really good again or

2029
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo being good?

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Speaker 2: I would have to say Garoppolo. If I say, what

2031
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Speaker 2: did they do with Josh Jacobs? Think about it?

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Speaker 1: Right? So that's the point that that's the issue here,

2033
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Speaker 1: is that the position has really, unfortunately not been shown

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Speaker 1: to be the determining factor of whether or not. Like

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Speaker 1: if the Raiders offensive line is better, if the Raiders

2036
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Speaker 1: and you know, if Jimmy Garoppolo is better, then the

2037
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Speaker 1: Raiders will be better. But it's not Josh Jacobs. He's

2038
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Speaker 1: a fabulous football player. He's really good in Like, if

2039
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: you were you know, in you would think that a

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Speaker 1: player like that should be paid a lot of money

2041
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Speaker 1: because he helps his team win.

2042
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Speaker 3: And say, but true, he would have been ten years ago,

2043
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Speaker 3: eight years ago.

2044
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Speaker 1: Correct, but not eymore. It's unfortunate. It's the way it is, though.

2045
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and people tell me, they'll say, well,

2046
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 2: you know, it's a passing game. You know what, It

2047
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 2: was a passing game when Dan Marino started throwing passes.

2048
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Speaker 2: That's when it's that's when football changed. He he was

2049
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Speaker 2: the godfather of the forward pass, Dan Marino. So don't

2050
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Speaker 2: tell me all of a sudden now because of the

2051
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Speaker 2: passing game and quarterbacks, that's why running backs are being

2052
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Speaker 2: phased down.

2053
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Speaker 3: No, that's not the reason.

2054
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Speaker 2: The reason is the big salaries that the quarterbacks are

2055
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Speaker 2: getting and there's no money left. That's the problem.

2056
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Speaker 1: Look, there's it's not really the quarterbacks getting paid as much.

2057
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Speaker 1: It's do you have to pay a left tackle, a cornerback,

2058
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Speaker 1: a pass rusher. It's not the quarter it's not your receiver.

2059
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Speaker 1: It's that there's nine other positions that are the ones

2060
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Speaker 1: where you're trying to pay them more money because you

2061
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Speaker 1: because they're more important. Again, it's nothing to do with

2062
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Speaker 1: you hate running backs, you know. That's the reason why.

2063
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 1: That's the reason why. It's all the positions that are

2064
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: more important than running back. That you feel you have

2065
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Speaker 1: to pay. That is why running backs don't get the

2066
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Speaker 1: money that they deserve to get.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you this much money, as they say,

2068
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 2: is the root of all evil, and it's going to

2069
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 2: explode it. It's just the way it is. You know,

2070
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 2: everybody's got their hand out. Everybody's getting a lot of money.

2071
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Speaker 2: Nobody who play, no one who puts on a uniform

2072
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Speaker 2: in the National Football League is looking for their next meal.

2073
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Speaker 1: That we know.

2074
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Speaker 2: All right, there's plenty of money. I guess the quarterbacks

2075
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Speaker 2: are getting a good chunk of it. But still in

2076
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Speaker 2: all you know, you can't win without a quarterback. That's

2077
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Speaker 2: the key, you know. But again, I don't think a

2078
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Speaker 2: great running back should be slapped around like he's being

2079
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Speaker 2: slapped around right now.

2080
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Speaker 1: It's not right.

2081
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Speaker 2: You know what what they do with the Josh Jacobs

2082
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 2: is is a crime. You know what they did to

2083
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: Sakwon Barkley is a crime. You know he's gonna be

2084
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Speaker 2: tagged again to give them the franchise take again next year, Okay, said.

2085
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Speaker 1: Okay, Eddie. If if Sakuon Barkley was on the free

2086
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 1: market right now and just said, hey I am I'm

2087
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 1: a free agent who's paying him more than Timar's here?

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Speaker 1: No one.

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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook can't get a job. He's out there. Ezegiel Elliott,

2090
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Speaker 2: although he was at the Patriots yesterday, Patriots didn't sign him.

2091
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Speaker 1: I was surprised. Yes, that was it money, you think

2092
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 1: or just skill? What Elliott? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Probably probably money. I guess it is money.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. But we'll see. But that's that's

2095
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: the nature of the beast.

2096
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Speaker 2: So again, warning to those who are great running backs

2097
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Speaker 2: in high school, get out of that position now, really,

2098
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 2: because that's the way it is. That's you know, when

2099
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Speaker 2: I ask you this, Jeff Schwartz, what's the next position

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Speaker 2: that will be hit? That was somewhat phased out with money,

2101
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 2: Because it's gonna happen. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any I don't think right now

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Speaker 1: there's that's probably I don't think there's anymore right now?

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Speaker 1: All right, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: All right, he's Jeff Schwartz. Im Andy Furman. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Some major questions

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Speaker 2: that need to be answered.

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Speaker 1: That's next.

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Speaker 3: But first, Kevin Wyatt with all your sports.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the women's World Cup has actually concluded for the day,

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Speaker 6: but we had a really thrilling match to finish off

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Speaker 6: the slate of games, Colombia and Germany. There was no

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Speaker 6: score until the fifty second minute at Columbia took the

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Speaker 6: one nil lead, but then Germany in the eighty ninth

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Speaker 6: minute tied it up and we thought, okay, maybe that

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Speaker 6: game would end in a draw. But then Colombia in

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Speaker 6: stoppage time the ninety seventh minute takes the lead and

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Speaker 6: they'd end up winning it two to one. Norway had

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Speaker 6: a much easier time with the Philippines. They destroy them

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Speaker 6: six nil. Switzerland, New Zealand plays to a nil nil draw.

2121
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Speaker 6: Morocco holds off South Korea one nil. In boxing. A

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Speaker 6: big match in Las Vegas on Saturday night, Terrence Crawford,

2123
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Speaker 6: now forty to zero in his career, he beats Errol

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Speaker 6: Spence in a ninth round technical knockout, and he becomes

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Speaker 6: the first undisputed one hundred and forty seven pound champion

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01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 6: in the four bell era. Major League Baseball, the Mets

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01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,839
Speaker 6: sending Max Schurzer to the Rangers in exchange FORAA shortstop

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01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:09,560
Speaker 6: Lewis Engel. Louis Angel Acunya who's the brother of Ronald Acunya.

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01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 6: Sures are waving his no trade clause and he opted

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Speaker 6: in for next season with the Rangers. The Mets sending

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01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:19,560
Speaker 6: Texas thirty five million dollars to help off set Schurzer's salary.

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Speaker 6: And some scores from Saturday in Major League Baseball, the

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Speaker 6: Braves over the Brewers eleven to five. Acunya with his

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Speaker 6: twenty fourth homer and fiftieth stolen base to this season.

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Speaker 6: The Cubs making eight straight wins. They beat the Cardinals

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01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 6: five to one, the Cardinals saying on Saturday they're not

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Speaker 6: trading Nolan Arnado. In a battle of the worst in

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01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 6: the ALE and the worst in the NL, it's the

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Speaker 6: Athletics over the Rockies eleven to three. The Kansas City,

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Speaker 6: one of the worst teams in the American League, beats

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01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 6: the first place Twins ten to seven, and the Guardians

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Speaker 6: lose seven to two to the White Sox, so Minnesota

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Speaker 6: is still a game and a half up in the

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Speaker 6: AL Central. The Yankees beat the Orioles eight three behind

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Speaker 6: a home run each from gian Carlo Stanton Aarron judge

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01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 6: the Yankee he's thirty and three when that happens when

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01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 6: both judges. Stanton hit a home run in the same game,

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Speaker 6: and the Giants get a walk off home run from JD.

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01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 6: Davis three to two over the Boston Red Sox as

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Speaker 6: their five game winning streak comes to an end. Divingbacks

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01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 6: beat the Mariners four to three, Angels lose to the

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01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 6: Blue Jay six to one, the Astros with a blowout

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Speaker 6: win against the Race seventeen to four to five home

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Speaker 6: runs for Houston in that game, and the Dodgers beat

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Speaker 6: the Reds three two despite only getting two hits, but

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01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 6: they were two Max Mounsey home runs and that was

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Speaker 6: the difference.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: KeV have a great day. Now we need answers. There's

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Speaker 2: only one person who give them. That's Jeff Schwartz. We'll

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01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 2: get to that in just about a minute. This is

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01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Rader. Yes he is

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01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz on Andy Furman, and we're brought to you

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Speaker 2: use your your genius, Jeff Schwartz between your ears, because

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01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,759
Speaker 2: you played the game. Only you can answer these questions.

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01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 2: We've got the playing game coming up in about ten minutes.

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01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,600
Speaker 2: No big news in Cincinnati this week, Joe Burrow, that

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01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 2: quarterback the franchise goes down and practice on a scramble,

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01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 2: no less a camp sprain.

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Speaker 3: Tell us how serious this might be?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to not achilles, which would have been

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01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: obviously much worse, which would have looked like I know,

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Speaker 1: he's wearing the the have a sleeve on, this sleeve on,

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Speaker 1: so there was an obvious issue there beforehand. It really

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Speaker 1: depends on, you know, is he able to have a

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Speaker 1: full rehab before coming back, because if you allow it

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Speaker 1: to fully heal, he should be fine. There should be

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Speaker 1: no problem. So that means you won't see him in

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Speaker 1: any preseason games. Oh no, no, absolutely not, which is a

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01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, but if if he comes back too

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01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: early and has a setback, that's where the problem comes, right, So, like,

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01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: do you do you basically let him even miss week

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01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: one or week two if it's not fully healthy, to

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01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 1: allow him to make sure that he is fully backed

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Speaker 1: one hundred, no setback whatsoever. That that's the question.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a question for you. He was scrambling

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01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 2: to his right, no one touched him, and he went

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01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 2: down holding it, not really in grimacing pain, but holding it.

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01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 2: What happens when he gets on the center in a

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Speaker 2: game and someone hits him?

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Speaker 1: That's the question, right, Yeah, But it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a it's not an impact injury. It's a it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a you know, a muscle, a soft tissue injury.

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Speaker 1: So the impact he would get in the pocket I

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Speaker 1: don't think matters very much to this injury. Now. The

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01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: being able to move and and the ability to to

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Speaker 1: to not get hit I think is the issue here.

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01:48:54,000 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 1: But again, if they allow him the full the full

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01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: time to recover, then I think he's gonna be just

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01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: absolutely fine. The problem is if they rush him back

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01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: at all and he plays before he's one hundred percent healthy,

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01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 1: he has a setback. If he doesn't, then he'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: It won't be a problem this year, good news, all right.

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01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 2: Next this will have season. The Miami Dolphins high vit

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Speaker 2: Fangio to be their defensive How valuable will this hire

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01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 2: be for the.

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01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 1: For the Dolphins.

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01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 3: It's huge, man, because he's changed defense is at various time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Vic Fangio is just an excellent defensive coordinator. Yeah.

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01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: And the unfortunate you know, Jayalen Ramsey unfortunately being hurt

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01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, early in this in this year is not great. Right,

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01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: that kind of hurts their ability to do I think

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Speaker 1: what Fangio wants to do. But it seems like a

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Speaker 1: very underrated hire man. He's such a good defensive coordinator.

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01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: If Tua can stay healthy, the Dolphins gonna be really good.

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Speaker 1: Upgrade offensive line. Second year in the offense, Vic Fangio

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01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 1: on defense will change the way they do things there.

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Speaker 1: It's a really really underrated higher it really is.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see what happened because I think everything is

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01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 2: about tool right now. But I think he will make

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01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 2: a difference, a big difference. Now on the other side

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01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 2: of the ball, the Patriots hired Bill O'Brien as the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Will he make a major difference on the

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Speaker 2: offensive start of the football.

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Speaker 1: Really Okay, he's a real offensive coach. I think we

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01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 1: looked at what happened in Houston with with Bill O'Brien

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01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: and think he's a He's a bum coach. There's two

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01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 1: different ways to evaluate coaches, right that become general managers,

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01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 1: which Bill O'Brien did, is the coach and the general manager,

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01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: because often the downfall of the coach when they become

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01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 1: general manager is their general managering. Right and right, he

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01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 1: was a bad general manager. He was a real good cook.

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Speaker 1: They made They made the playoffs. They want to vision

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01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 1: four of six years he was there. He coached offense

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Speaker 1: Alabama with Bryce Young. Dude can coach offense. He's going

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Speaker 1: back to New England to just coach offense. I think

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01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 1: England offensively is even much better now. Mac Jones is

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01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: maybe the fourth most talented quarterback in that division, but

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01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 1: doesn't change. I think that they can win nine or

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01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 1: ten or eleven games with a decent offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was hoping that somebody somewhere would get

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 2: a hold of Bill Belichick and ask him what was

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01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 2: on his mind when he hired Patricia as the offensive coordinator.

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01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Who this guy was a defensive guy his entire career.

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01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 2: Why would he do that? And it showed? It hurt,

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Speaker 2: It hurt their their offensive last yea. And I think

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01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 2: mac Jones basically was somewhat vocal about that as well.

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01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 1: I think it was Hubris, it was it was Ego.

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01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 1: I can make sure we do it correctly. I can

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01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 1: make sure it's right, and they made a mistake obviously. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Belichick will ever First, I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody will have the guts to ask him that.

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01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think.

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01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 2: I don't think Belichick will ever answer that question because

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01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 2: right now some of the media breathing heavily on him,

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01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 2: saying he's on the hot seat. So I don't think

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01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 2: he's gonna be too cordial to media people and questions

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01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 2: this year, especially if he starts this season like one

2264
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 2: in three, you know, zero to four. I mean, it'll

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01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,799
Speaker 2: it'll get real ugly fast.

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01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 1: It'll get ugly fast. But I don't think they're gonna

2267
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: start that slow. I hope not really.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last, but not least questions for Jeff Schwartz here,

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01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 2: Eric b Enemy may have been the higher, the entire

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01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 2: higher of the entire offseason. He's at a call place

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01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 2: for the Washington command. This last year, this Washington team

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01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 2: averaged eighteen point eight points a game, which is twenty

2273
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: fourth in the league on the O c Scott Turner.

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Speaker 1: Can he be changed things? Well, the problem for them

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01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: is just a talented quarterback. If they're going with Sam Howell, yikes,

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01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 1: Like that's the problem, right, It's not to me. It's

2277
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,679
Speaker 1: not really Eric b enemy. It's not the offensive line.

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01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,879
Speaker 1: They have running backs, they have wide receivers. It's quarterback.

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01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you just can't overcome quarterback that's not

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01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 1: talent enough to play the position. I don't know if

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01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: Sam How's that guy, I would say no, I don't

2282
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: think Somehow's that guy.

2283
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 2: And if he fails, or if the Washington commanders fail,

2284
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna be very very difficult for him

2285
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 2: to obtain a head coaching job.

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01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: Very difficult. Yeah, that's the problem. Ron Rivera's gonna be

2287
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 1: out of a job in.

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01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 2: Washington and then he fire. They're not gonna fire Rivera

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01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 2: a midseas. I don't think they would. Well, if they did,

2290
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 2: they may make the be enemy like interim coach.

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01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: Maybe here's the here's the thing about Washington right now,

2292
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 1: a new owner has no connection to Ron Rivera, and

2293
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: he's surely going to get rid of him as soon

2294
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 1: as he can.

2295
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 3: He's already changed in front office position.

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01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: It's not again, it's not Ron Rivera's fault that he

2297
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: was there with Daniel Snyder. Like, that's not that should

2298
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:52,679
Speaker 1: be held against him. But the new owner, Josh Harris

2299
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 1: is gonna get rid of every single person with any

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01:53:55,120 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 1: ties of Daniel Snyder, and unfortunately is Ron Rivera unless

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01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 1: they have it a ten one season but they don't

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01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Room, the broom comes out. It's everyone's gone, yeah, no,

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01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: you're right right, I'm here what you're saying.

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01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:16,480
Speaker 2: All right, We appreciate your input, of course, your intelligence

2305
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 2: and your football knowledge because some of those questions really

2306
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 2: and truly are big NFL questions. Maybe we'll continue more

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01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 2: so next week as we get closer and deeper into

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01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 2: the season. We'll do that, all right. He is Jeff

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01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 2: Schwarz and Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports Sunday, and

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01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sport's ready. It is time.

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Speaker 3: It is time to finger point. The blame game is

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01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 3: freaking next.

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01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 2: The blame game coming right up right here on Fox

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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,720
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Speaker 2: And by the way, at the top of the hour,

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 2: which would be nine am on the East Coast, Mike

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01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 2: Harmon and Damn Bayer want to do all that is

2322
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 2: Harmon and Bayer coming up at nine am on the

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01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 2: East coast.

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01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 1: But now it's time for the blame game. You ruined me.

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01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 3: It's all your fault, it's your fault. Is all your fault.

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01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who the liar?

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01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 5: That's there's the blame game, the blame game.

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01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 1: Let's figure out who to blame.

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01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 3: Let's blame the biggie.

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Speaker 2: Ethan Millers handling the blame game today.

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01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 1: It's the biggie.

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01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 4: All right, guys, here we go. A lot of guys

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01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 4: are getting injured in training camp. My god, Joey b

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01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 4: obviously we know is calf. I got a question? Can

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Speaker 4: we blame training camp for these injuries in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Like specifically, like it's the training camp the main reason

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Speaker 4: these guys are getting injured?

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Speaker 1: So, like long, Jevy, football is at one injury rate sports.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't get hurt. Would do this every year. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, training camp injuries. You're like, yeah, that's football, Like,

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Speaker 1: there's no one to blame. It's football. Football is to blame,

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Speaker 1: you know what the deal is.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like if you're a boxer, you gotta

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Speaker 2: you just can't go into the ring.

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Speaker 1: You gotta practice.

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Speaker 2: And I think that the bottom line is that there's

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Speaker 2: not enough practice time. I get it. Some people are

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Speaker 2: just injury prone. I get that, but I think you

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Speaker 2: have to practice to somewhat avoid injury or is that correct?

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Speaker 2: And I think the fact is that the football, the

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Speaker 2: Football Association, the players associated, the PA, they just deem

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01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 2: that they don't need you, they don't need pads, they

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Speaker 2: don't need to practice. That's fine, you don't want to practice,

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Speaker 2: you know, Fine, you're gonna get injured.

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Speaker 3: As the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's that you can make the case

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Speaker 1: that that happens that you know, the less practice time

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Speaker 1: you spend, the less opportunity you know, the less ready

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Speaker 1: you are right for to play your sports. You're exactly right,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 4: Next, So I always just thinking about how I spent

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Speaker 4: a quarter of my paycheck last night on the fight

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Speaker 4: and for pay per.

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Speaker 1: View, which which fight the boxer?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because there was the I blame you. You

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Speaker 1: need to see some professional hill.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, what a great night you've fighting. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I paid for the Crawford one. And I'm just curious,

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Speaker 4: why are we in twenty twenty three and we're still

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Speaker 4: paying pay per view and the networks haven't like paid

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Speaker 4: out to make it like a cable.

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Speaker 1: Got fools like you that'll do it. Because you're still

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Speaker 1: doing it. Man, you're trying for it but not doing it.

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Speaker 1: It's you.

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Speaker 8: I'm the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are you a fool? Blame on you.

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Speaker 8: All right, Good, that's the first time I'm happy for that.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: Uh, the PAC twelve, you know a lot of chatter

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Speaker 4: going on on the air way. It's about how they're

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Speaker 4: you know, taking a taking a beating right now. I

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Speaker 4: guess you could say, who's who's to blame for this?

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Speaker 3: Is it them?

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Speaker 1: Or is it jeez?

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We'll have like two minutes left on the show. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: it is the I would say that the presidents who

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Speaker 1: have hired commissioners, at least a particular commissioner who just

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Speaker 1: didn't get it Larry.

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Speaker 3: Scott, he was, he ruled them, the former commissioner.

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Speaker 1: But also seems like USC played a big role in

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Speaker 1: this by not wanting to expand at any point and

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Speaker 1: kind of held back expansion, which I think has really

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Speaker 1: hurt the conference. And then they just bounced, which is again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, feels very USC.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't Larry Scott the clown that said he wanted to

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Speaker 2: put up a big ad like on forty second Street

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Speaker 2: in New York City about the PAC twelve conference. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, I mean, yeah, he ruled them. He ruined

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. Uh, the PAC twelve is bigger than

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01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 2: Larry Scott though.

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Speaker 1: It is, but he seems to have not done a

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Speaker 1: good job of keeping us together. Right right there?

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Speaker 4: It goes next, all right, so I recently just got

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Speaker 4: Starbucks for the team here, and you treated you bought yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just for the you know, and you have money left

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Speaker 3: from your paycheck from the.

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Speaker 8: Well, actually, Shay bought today, so you can thank Shay. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I was Mark like Starbucks hot chocolate more than

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Speaker 4: Dunkin Donuts. So who's the blame in Mark's life for

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Speaker 4: that analysis?

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Speaker 1: And that.

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Speaker 4: He likes Starbucks coffee or Starbucks hot chocolate over Dunkin Donuts.

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Speaker 8: And I find that as a violation because I like

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Speaker 8: Dunkin Donuts.

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Speaker 1: I like better too.

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Speaker 2: There's none better than Duncan Donuts. And the price is

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Speaker 2: right too, That's right. Come on, Mark, really, he's get

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Speaker 2: with it. Get with the program, Mark Ramsey, please, I

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Speaker 2: don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 8: I'll be sipping on his hot chocolate.

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Speaker 3: You hope you burn your tongue on it, I really do.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a sin, it really, it's a sin

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Speaker 2: that you would like Starbucks, if anything, Starbucks coffee maybe

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Speaker 2: Maybecks coffee. I don't. I don't like Starbucks cofee to feel.

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Speaker 2: It tastes like it's burnt.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing d Donuts. I wish Duncle Donuts was a

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Speaker 2: sponsor of ours. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you there, Yeah, thank you?

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Speaker 2: All right with that, We're gonna go Mark, cool off

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Speaker 2: your tongue on that. We'll see you next week. Have

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Speaker 2: a great day.

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Speaker 1: We love you.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned for the Dynamic Duo.

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