1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are going to break 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: down the Ravens. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Big and I need big. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Forty one to seventeen win over the Cleveland Browns, as 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: John Harball said, was a bounce back win. The Ravens 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: coming off a really tough loss in Buffalo. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: They needed this one. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, you come back home against the division rival 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: that you should beat, that your widely favorite too beat. 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: You need to beat them. And the Ravens not only. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: Beat them, but pulled away down the stretch, which you 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: especially love to see considering how they coughed up that 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: lead in Buffalo. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few things I like about it. I 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: really like the way the Ravens closed the game. That 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: to me stands out really on both sides of the ball. 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 3: They came up with big plays Offensively, they came up 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: with turnovers on defense. I turned those turnovers into big plays, 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: put the offense in position to capitalize, or just took 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: it all the way to the house themselves on the 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: Roqueuants with scoop and score. So they closed the game 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: the way you want to see a team close things out, 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: especially when they're playing somebody who they're better than. They're 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: playing at home and they're the better team, and you 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: want to see him close it out. You don't want 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: to see him hang on for dear life. You want 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: to see him put the exclamation point on things. And 29 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: the Ravens were able to do that today. And the 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: other piece that I like about it is like they 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: did not allow last week's game to beat them twice. 32 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: That was the thing that everyone was talking about all 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: throughout the week, and they didn't do it. They came 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: out and they played a team. You know, all we 35 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: all talked about last season how the Ravens lost the 36 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: openers to Kansas City and then came home in a 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: game that they were heavily favored to win against the 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: Raiders and dropped it. Yep, And so that was fresh 39 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: on the minds of fans and players and coaches at 40 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: everybody this week, and the Ravens did not have a 41 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: repeat performance of that, and so I thought it was 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: just it was a good day across the board for. 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: This team I think overall. And Marlon Humphrey spoke this 44 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: week about it. He said, we weren't a mature team 45 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. That was the that he used was maturity 46 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: and this this win required maturity a because the Browns 47 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: did not make it easy early in this game. I mean, 48 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: it was like kind of a slog of a first half. 49 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: And that's often how it just is with Cleveland. You know, 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: you get a tough defense division rival like that can happen, 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: but you can also it can also get frustrating and 52 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: lead to the unraveling of a team. You know, if 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: you don't have that maturity, you come home, you're expected 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: to win. Things are tougher earlier on, Like you could 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: see a team kind of just coming apart. The Ravens 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: offense was back down, you know in the shadow They're 57 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: own end zone multiple times early in this game. And 58 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: John Harvell actually said that was the most impressive thing 59 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: for him offensively, was just that they didn't break in 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: those situations. And that was important early in this game 61 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: until they kind of got a little bit of a 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: breathing room and then pulled away. But like and then 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: the maturity that they showed, like we said to two 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: pool away late in the game. Look, with with five 65 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: minutes left in the third quarter, they kind of had 66 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: a oh here we go again or please no again. 67 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Moment in the third quarter, five minutes left, fourth down, 68 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey tries to intercept a fourth down pass uh 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: and instead it goes through his hands straight to Cedric Tillman, 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: the Browns wide receiver, for a touchdown. Now it's a 71 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: ten point game again with five minutes left in the 72 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: third and you're like, oh my god, you know, like 73 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: we did that, that would. 74 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: Have been hit. It would have been twenty to three 75 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: and you would have the ball, like, that's that's probably it. 76 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: If he just that pass down instead it tries to 77 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: intercept it, right, that's probably probably ballgame, right, And you're 78 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: just thinking, like the Ravens have the worst luck in 79 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the world, and like, here we go again with just 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: like fluky plays, you know, just like they had some 81 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: of in Buffalo. But then to score twenty one straight 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: points after that in the fourth quarter Devonte's Walker touchdown, 83 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: rokwand Smith sixty three yard fund recover for a touchdown, 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins touchdown. 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: Ballgame done, just so. 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: To me, it was the maturity even in a tough 87 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: first half, and then in the second half to close 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: the game out. 89 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: Well. John Harbaugh made the point like you look at 90 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: the final score forty one to seventeen, said basically, to 91 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: be honest is the final score doesn't really indicate it. 92 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: But this game was a grind. Yeah, And to me, 93 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: a lot of times when you're the team that wins 94 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: forty one to seventeen, you're not off the sad Like, hey, 95 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: it was closer than you think exactly, but it was. 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: It was a close game for really three quarters and 97 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: then the Ravens pulled away in the fourth quarter, and like, 98 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing. Like, I mean, everyone, 99 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: everyone on Twitter, even the announcers during the game, when 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: it's a fourth quarter and it's a two score lead, 101 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: it's a ten point game, everyone's pulling up the stats 102 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: about fourth quarter losses at the Ravens where they've had 103 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: two score leads and how many have they've blown and 104 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: all this stuff. Like everyone's pulling up the stats and saying, 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: is this going to be a similar situation? And it wasn't. 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: And so I think that the Ravens deserve a lot 107 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: of c it for that. And I was really like, 108 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: to me, like I was encouraged by the defense today. 109 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 3: I thought the defense played at a really high level 110 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: Roquan Smith was the guy who had the big scoop 111 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: and score touchdown. He was all over the field, had 112 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: fifteen tackles, multiple tackles for loss, Like he was God, 113 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: he was awesome, he was ridiculous. He was awesome. 114 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: And with ray Lewis in the house, that was like 115 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: a ray Lewis esque performance, just like he was everywhere. 116 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool note on that too, by the way, when 117 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: he took the touchdown, when he scored the touchdown and 118 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: ran that back, we have those new suites there from 119 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: Troe Price. His family was sitting in the one right 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: where he ran into and so he runs into the 121 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: end zone and gave the ball to a family member 122 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: and celebrated with his friends and family. That's a pretty 123 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: cool moment for him. Just perfect timing and perfect placement. 124 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: So that was pretty sweet. 125 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: And gosh, fifteen tackles, eight solo, three tackles for lost, 126 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: two quarterback hits in a touchdown. 127 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: And I know there's been some talk about Rokwan and 128 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: is he not playing up to the standard that he 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: has earlier in his career. And I actually thought in 130 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: Buffalo last week, like I thought he was pretty good 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: in Buffalo. I thought the defense as a whole didn't 132 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: have there, did not have a very good game. But 133 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: I don't put much of that on Roquan. He had 134 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: a bad mistackle, one bad miss tackle against Buffalo, but 135 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: I thought he was all over the field in that game, 136 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: and he's all over the field in this game. Like 137 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: I thought, Rokuan was awesome today, and I think that, 138 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: like the talk around him, in my opinion, has been 139 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: a little bit overstated in terms of is he playing 140 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: up to the standard. I think Rokwan Smith is still 141 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: a great player and he showed that today. 142 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean overall, it was just a really strong 143 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: defensive effort. I mean, in Joe Flacco's return to M 144 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: ANDT Banks Stadium, he was twenty five of forty five 145 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: for a buck ninety nine, a touchdown and interception, got 146 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: sacked twice. He had a sixty five quarterback rating. I mean, 147 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: they put the clamps on him. And also it was 148 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: really good to see defensively the takeaways. That was one 149 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: of the takeaways. Sorry, couldn't help myself from Buffalo from 150 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: both the past two games in Buffalo was zero takeaways, 151 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, and really those are what made the difference 152 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: in this game. You had the Nate Wiggins interception on 153 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Flacco as he was rolling out being chased by Roquan Smith, 154 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and Nate Wiggins to get that interception early this game 155 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: set up a touchdown, huge play and then really the 156 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: one that I sit the Tavious Robinson sack on Joe 157 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Flacco coughs up the ball and Roquan takes the house. 158 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: So you know, when you when you have the defense, 159 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: like as as good as this offense is and the 160 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: firepower that it has, if you give it extra possessions, 161 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: it's leaked out. 162 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and like I'm like the Browns offense it's 163 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: not as good as Buffalo's offense. Like I'm not gonna 164 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to try to make that comparison, but 165 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: like the takeaways thing is real and the Ravens have 166 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: made that a focal point and to get that today 167 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: and then like on those takeaways, I mean, Wiggins almost 168 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: takes it to the house. He puts the offensive position 169 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: that they turned that into a touchdown and Roque does 170 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: take it to the house. And so like like it's 171 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: not just getting the ball away. They're doing something when 172 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: they get when they get their hands on it too, 173 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: especially the Wiggans one that was that was really impressive 174 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: for him. 175 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: This is, by the way, you know, I always should 176 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: have had another pick with Marlin too. 177 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: Should have had three. By the way, just as a reminder, 178 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: I took Wigas to lead the team in interceptions this year, 179 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: and he's got one and. 180 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: Named to lead the team SAX. 181 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: So I'm feeling real good about my season predictions. I'm 182 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: gonna remind you of that all throughout. 183 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: The oh I would have had one who got hell 184 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: late in the game. I should have had a sack there. 185 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I would have had one. I'm just gonna 186 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: keep reminding you of of my small success. 187 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: You're looking good. You're looking good so far. I'm not 188 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: gonna lie. Uh So. 189 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, a great defensive performance for the Ravens defense. And 190 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: this is honestly what I expected when I said that 191 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: they would be the number one defense in the league. 192 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't looking great on that prediction after Week one, 193 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: but you know, last year it took a little while 194 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: for the defense to get things turned around, and the Ravens. 195 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: Said it this week. 196 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: The players that make plays are gonna play, and if 197 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: you're not making plays, you ain't gonna play. And and 198 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: we saw it today. I mean, JayR Alexander was a 199 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: healthy scratch. Now you know, part of that is really 200 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: health related, uh, which of course plays into performance. 201 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: Also, healthy scratch is kind of in air quotes a 202 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: little bit. 203 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, like it's not exactly a healthy scratch. He 204 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: missed a month of training camp. John Harwall feels like 205 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: that certainly has impact impacted the way he played in 206 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Week one. It's a it's a practice position. He feels 207 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: like he wants to let Jayir get physically right, let 208 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: him get stronger in practice for a little while, and 209 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: then come out and here in practice. He said clearly 210 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: in his postgame press conference, he expects jay R Alexander 211 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: play great football for the Ravens this season. You know, 212 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: don't read too much into a scratch, but you know JayR, 213 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: John Harvill said, JayR was pushing me. He wants to play, yeah, 214 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, and so like not an easy decision. 215 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: TJ. 216 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Tampa stepped into JayR Alexander's kind of spot and had 217 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: a fourth down pass breakup played well here. Today we 218 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: also saw Teddy Buchanan, the rookie fourth round pick, is 219 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: now a starter. I mean to play the vast majority 220 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: of the snaps was the whole game next to Rokwan 221 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: Smith and so another you know, and again John Harball 222 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: set off the game. Hey, it's not an indictment on 223 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: Trenton Simpson. Trenton's played well in week one two, Just 224 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Teddy's playing better. Like that's who they're rolling with right now. 225 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: Teddy had six tackles, two solo, So Trenton had four tackles. 226 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: So you know how we'll see those snaps divvied up. 227 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: We'll see John Harball kind of said it would be 228 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: a fairly even split after week one, it looked like 229 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: it was more heavily Teddy Buchanan here today. 230 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that speaks to those adjustments, speak 231 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: to what Marlon Humphrey was talking about this week that 232 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: the Ravens they are they're not waiting around on anything, 233 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: Like they feel like this is a team and a 234 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: defense that has all the pieces and all the players 235 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: and they're not messing around. And so if they feel 236 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: like they need to make any kind of changes, scheme adjustments, 237 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: personnel changes, like they're going to do that. This is 238 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: a team that's ready to win right now and they 239 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: are doing everything they can to make that happen, and 240 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: so well, today was a good sign in that regard. 241 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: And like Hardball said, which I hear, part of it's 242 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: getting him in football shape. Like he missed a month 243 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: of training camp. This is also a guy who missed 244 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: a lot of football last year, wasn't on a team 245 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: the entire off season for the most part, signed on 246 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: the last day of mini camp and then comes in 247 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: in training camp practices for a week and that is 248 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: on the shelf for a month. So like not much 249 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: football for him over the last eleven months. 250 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: And so well, obviously you know, he had knee surgery 251 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year calendar year, at the 252 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: very end of last year basically, and so I think 253 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: also then he had his knee drained during training camp, 254 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, like he's kind of managing that knee as well. 255 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: So there's also kind of a health element I think 256 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: in play. 257 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I I still think that, like looks as 258 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: Harball said, he's going to play a lot of important 259 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 3: football for this team. And so I'm not closing the 260 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: book at all on that story. I just think that 261 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: as it stands right now, putting TJ. Tampa out there 262 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: and giving him an opportunity and allowing Ji Year to 263 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: get healthier and more ready is the best thing for 264 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: the team of the defense. 265 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: Well, he could be out there Monday night against the 266 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions in the next game, because the Ravens do 267 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: have some injury concerns coming out of this game. Marlon 268 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: Humphrey left the game late with what was reported as 269 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: a groin injury and so he did not finish the game. Also, 270 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy left the game with a hamstring injury 271 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: in the first half and was ruled out at the 272 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: start of the second half. And so John Harball after 273 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: the game said that neither are season ending injuries by 274 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: any stretch, but they'll re evaluate on Monday and see 275 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: get more insight on those but two obviously very very 276 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: key players, and now you know their status is going 277 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more in question for Monday 278 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: night in the Detroit Lions, and we'll see if they're 279 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: going to miss time. You know, hamstrings usually can be tough, 280 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Groins can be kind of tough. Sometimes those things can 281 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: linger a little bit. So hopefully they returned to practice 282 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: this week, but we'll see if they don't. 283 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: You know, TJ. 284 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Tampa's certainly going to get more playing time. Kean Martin 285 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: came in and took the slot snaps after Marlon Humphrey left, 286 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: but who knows, they might need Jay R Alexander active 287 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: to have enough players. 288 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, also Marlin when he was on the sidelines, 289 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: he was still trying to test it out and kind 290 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: of stretch and do a little bit of running on 291 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: the sidelines before ultimately being ruled out to the lockerom 292 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, and didn't return. So yeah, we'll see what 293 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: the status is there. But yeah, you're playing on Monday 294 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: night against the Detroit Lions. So I'm looking up here 295 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: and they put up fifty two points and I'm on 296 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: Ross and Brown had night catches for one fifteen to 297 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: three touchdowns. So you want your secondary at full strength 298 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: going up against that passing attack and that receiver. But 299 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: we'll stay that conversation for another day. That's something that 300 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: will kick down the road. 301 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: Well, the Kyle van Noy one I think is interesting too. 302 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: You know, now Mike Green, the rookie step right up. 303 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's the backup to Kyle van Noy, So 304 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: it might be the second round picks time to kind 305 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: of shine. 306 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So let's take a quick break. When we come back, 307 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: we'll dive into the offensive side of the football. Barely 308 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: even mention Lamar Jackson through four touchdown passes today, so 309 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: we'll get into that. We'll get into that when we 310 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: come back from this break. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. 311 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: We are coming to you from the Sea Keek Studio. 312 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: We want to mention our partners with Draft Kings sports Book. 313 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: They are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore 314 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: Ravens Draftking Sportsbook. The Crown is yours. So the offense 315 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: a little slow out of the gate here, you know, 316 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: the first half was like just not that exciting a football, 317 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: to be honest with you. There wasn't much offense, a 318 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: number of punts. The Ravens are backed up in their 319 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: own end zone for a lot of the first half, 320 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: and as you mentioned, the fact that they didn't allow 321 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: that to really hurt them, like no disaster place, no 322 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: strip sacked, no interception, like nothing that was catastrophic in 323 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: those situations. That was really important for this team and 324 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: something that was a big reason why they were able 325 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: to win this game. Brown's defense is excellent. Miles Garrett 326 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: might be the best defensive player in football. He looked 327 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: like it today. Jim Schwartz is an aggressive, veteran defensive 328 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: play caller and builds a really good scheme. So like 329 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: that's a good defense. 330 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: He can cause you problems. And the biggest surprise of 331 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: the game, I think for the Ravens was the inability 332 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: to run the ball. I mean they ran a twenty 333 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: one times for forty five yards. Dereck Henry, after a 334 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: monster game against the Bills, had eleven carries for twenty 335 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: three yards along of eight you know, I mean, Derek 336 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: Henry average two point one to carry. 337 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 338 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: I mean that's the low compared to what he had 339 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: last year. You know, just that's his lowest in the 340 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: Ravens uniform. So that's not really what any of us expected. 341 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: And surprising to see he didn't have any room to run. 342 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: The Browns were kind of winning the line of scrimmage 343 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: in that rushing attack and made life really hard on 344 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: him when the Ravens were trying to get that ground 345 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: game going early. 346 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, goodness, gracious, you look up at 347 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: the scoreboard and forty one points and you couldn't run 348 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: the ball, which is really the Ravens bread and butter 349 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: and where the all offense is often predicated on the run. 350 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: It's quite a day. You know. 351 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: The Ravens really kind of had to pivot. The Browns 352 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: defense was so suffocating against the run that the Ravens 353 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: pivoted in the second half of this game and they 354 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: went a little had a little bit more success with 355 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: outside runs. But honestly, like they had to throw the ball, 356 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson stepped up to the plate nineteen to 357 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: twenty nine for two to twenty five and four touchdowns. 358 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: It was you know, I didn't think he. 359 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: Had his sharpest first half, but goodness gracious, they got 360 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: it done in the second. 361 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they poured it on. And what I 362 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: liked is like he got everybody involved in the action. 363 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: This was from a passing game standpoint. It was the 364 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: entire receiving corps who was getting involved in the things. 365 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: Flowers Zey stout line seven catches seventy five yards, did 366 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: not get in the end zone. It's not like gaudy stats, 367 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: but when this offense needed a spark, Zay was the 368 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: guy to kind of provide it. And he talked about 369 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: that after the game. A little bit. I asked him 370 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: about that, and he said, like, first of all, his 371 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: personality just lends himself to being a guy that can 372 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: provide a spark. And he even made that point like 373 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: I try to be positive, I try to be upbeat, 374 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: and so a spark can come anywhere, and so I 375 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: try to bring that energy with me whenever I'm on 376 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: the field. And I thought he did that. 377 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: Today the eleven targets. 378 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you round it out, Tyland Wallace gets 379 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: in the end zone, two catches, twenty five yards a touchdown. 380 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: Davontees Walker. All this guy does is catch touchdowns. Is 381 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: Chris Carter two catches, two touchdowns that going back to 382 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 3: last year, he's got three career catches, three touchdowns. Yeah, 383 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: all he does is catch touchdowns. And then DeAndre Hopkins 384 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: nearly all he does is catch touchdowns. Had two catches 385 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: for one touchdown, one that was initially ruled a touchdown 386 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 3: that came off the board that I'm still like, are 387 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: we sure he wasn't in right? And of course last 388 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: week he had that ridiculous catch in Buffalo, But yeah, 389 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: his catches today we're ridiculous. Like his degree of difficulty 390 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 3: on these catches. It's the highest degree of difficulty overall 391 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: in the league when you look at the three catches 392 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: that he has, all on the end zone, all tightly contested, ridiculous. 393 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: Talk about a good addition this offseason. Yeah, yeah, it's 394 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: like it's been preposterous. I mean when Lamar Jackson just 395 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: hasn't had this receiver over his career. The guy where 396 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: like he's covered, but he's not covered. He's never covered, 397 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, And. 398 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: So I really think that there's the nice part is 399 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: like you have these explosive weapons in Zay Flowers and 400 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Rasha Bateman, like get the ball in their hands and 401 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: they can make anything happen. And then you have just 402 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: such reliable pass catches and Tyler Wallace and DeAndre Hopkins 403 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: who so like it's really difficult to defend this Ravens 404 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. And honestly, that's how the offense is 405 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: run through. The passing offense has run through the wide receivers. 406 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, Mark Andrews one catch for two yards today 407 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: did not have a big impact in Buffalo either, and 408 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: so you know, he had one punch out of his 409 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: hands in the end z in here today. But the 410 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Ravens passing game has run through that wide receiver corps 411 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: with Isaiah Lakelee out, and then we'll see maybe Isaiahlakelee 412 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: returned soon, he returned to practice on Friday. Maybe there's 413 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: a chance he comes back on Monday and that changes 414 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: the offense. But right now Ravens are leaning on those 415 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers and heck, you look at how many forty 416 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: points and then forty one this week. 417 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: Haven't been bad? 418 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: No, no, not at all, And like I just go 419 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: back to Hopkins. We said it all throughout training camp. 420 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: This is a guy that looks like he's giving the 421 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 3: Ravens a new element to the offense. And that's exactly 422 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: what it's been like on that on the first play, 423 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: the big the touchdown that was called back like he 424 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: was Lamar rolls out of the pocket and like Hopkins 425 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 3: wasn't open, he just threw it up. It was tightly 426 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: contested guy, he was kind of blanketed and that was 427 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: just a that was a fifty to fifty ball. Like 428 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna trust my guy to go up and 429 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: make a play and has been probably gonna he's probably 430 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: gonna get a gold jacket in his future by making 431 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: those plays throughout his career and now he's doing it 432 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: for the Ravens. And everyone was joking about it because 433 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: he said it when he came off the field in 434 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: Buffalo Wash. Everyone's saying on Washed, huh, doesn't look like it. 435 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: Lamar made that point, say Flowers made that point, and 436 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 3: and man, he's really added something to this offense. So 437 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: that's a good piece of the equation that I think 438 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: is really going to pay dividends for this team this year. 439 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 440 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: I think I think part of the storyline in this 441 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: game overall was just these kind of reserves that made 442 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: huge plays in this game. We talked about devontees Walker, 443 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Tylan Wallace early in this game. You know, special teams 444 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: really gave gave the team a spark. Jake Hummell with 445 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: the blocked punt right up the middle was a huge 446 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: play early on. Lejontay Western with a long return of 447 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: Shoelace tackle saved the touchdown return for him on a punt, 448 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: and so I thought it was Jordan Stout also, I 449 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: think overall had had a really good day and was 450 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: was key when the Ravens offense was backed up early on, 451 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: and so I thought special teams also, and just in 452 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: role players, really good day for them overall. 453 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: And when you have a game that's, as Harbaugh described 454 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: a grind, Like, when you have a game that's a grind, 455 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: you need those types of moments. You need a game 456 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: changing play from special teams, and you get it in 457 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: a block point, you need a big return. Like so 458 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: the Ravens were able to get some of those plays. 459 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 3: I think that's a great point from role players who 460 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: aren't like the who's who and and Tess Walker is 461 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: another one, like just credit to him is like he 462 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: was great all off season and in training camp. But 463 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: the question was kind of like where is where is 464 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: he fit? Because like I just don't know where the seams? 465 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: The answer, well, time and he's he's he's played his 466 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: way into a role on this team, and like he's 467 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: not going to be a guy that is the number 468 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: one receiver, but he makes his opportunities. 469 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: No one's that was a fourth down. 470 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you know, we just got done having a 471 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: conversation all week long about where are. 472 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: The Ravens aggressive enough? 473 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: You know you have these late leads, are you gonna 474 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: be aggressive and kind of are you gonna maintain the lead? 475 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: Or are you gonna keep grabbing the lead right and 476 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: going for more? And John Harball, to his credit, the 477 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: Ravens were down there in the red zone and went 478 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: forward on fourth down when they could have easily settle 479 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: for a field goal, turns into a devontees Walker touchdown 480 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: at the back of the end zone. And so credit 481 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: to Harb's for having the guts to call that. One 482 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: credit to Lamar Jackson, devontees Walker and the rest of 483 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: the offense for getting it done. 484 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: So one last thought on the offense for me moving forward, 485 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: I do think again, this Browns defense is really good defense. 486 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: With the talented players on that front, they are gonna 487 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: need to have more success in terms of controlling line 488 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: of scrimmage in future games. And it's hard to criticize 489 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 3: the offense on a day where the team ends up 490 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: having forty one points. Of course, one of those was 491 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: a couple of those up on the defense, or the 492 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: defense scored it or set out by special teams. But 493 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 3: my point is like, you're gonna need to run the 494 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: ball better than they did today. 495 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, generally speaking, I'm not worried about the Ravens run game. 496 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and hit the panic button 497 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: after one game, Like we said, this is a this 498 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: is attacking downhill style Cleveland Browns defense, and like they're 499 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: run blitzing you. They were determined to take Derrick Henry 500 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: out of this game. Now, other teams might try the 501 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: same thing. They might see that formula. So like, you 502 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: got to have a way to still run the ball 503 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: even though everybody knows Derrick Henry is a monster and 504 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: that they are going to be aggressive to try to 505 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: stop him. 506 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: You gotta be able to do it anyway. 507 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I thought that the Ravens in the 508 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: first half, you know, the Browns defensive line made some 509 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: plays in the backfield, Mason Graham, the rookie fifth overall pick. 510 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: I thought that they were having some trouble up front. So, yeah, 511 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: they got to be better. I'm not I'm not gonna 512 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: sit here and say I'm like worried about the Ravens 513 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: ability to run the ball. 514 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: Yet, No, I'm not either. I Also, I just think 515 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: that you want to see you want to win that 516 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: battle in the trenches, even if it's a up against 517 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: really really good defensive front like Cleveland has Lamar sacked 518 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: three times today. Again, none of those things hurt the Ravens, 519 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: but it's just as you projected forward. You want to 520 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: be able to hold up, you know, up up front 521 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: quickly before we wrap here, A big storyline coming into 522 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: this game was a return to Joe Flaccom and it 523 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: certainly I think it was probably a kind of an 524 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: emotional day for Joe on the field, not the day 525 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: that he would have wanted, just and had the final 526 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: numbers and ends up Dylan Gabriel ends up entering the 527 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: game late when it was well in hand. But what 528 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: was what were your thoughts about seeing Flacco back here 529 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: in Baltimore but at the time we're in a Browns uniform. 530 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was. It was cool, you know, 531 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: as could be expected. A lot of pregame, you know, 532 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: him dapping people up and hugs and Dennis pitted down 533 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: there with the Flaco Elite T shirt and you know, 534 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: Tory Smith, just tons of it was like a it 535 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: was like a greeting line, you know, at like a 536 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: wedding or something. People are just lining up to say 537 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: hi to Joe and uh. 538 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: And so that was neat. 539 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: It was one of them. Oh yeah, I talked to 540 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: him before the game. Yeah, oh, Yeah, would you Joe 541 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: talk about I was in line. Uh. I. I just said, 542 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: it's weird seeing you in Round's uniform. Is this weird 543 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: for you? And he said he like, he just laughed 544 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: and basically said, yes, it's pretty weird. And uh. And 545 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: so anyway we talked to me, I was locked in. 546 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to you don't want to frightenize with 547 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 3: the end. 548 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: You go down there fratenized with the team of the opponent. 549 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: That's stuff for you to do. 550 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm locked in. 551 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: You're you in order to talk to him, pregame, you 552 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: have to get here a pregame. So locked in, locked 553 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 3: in your car, ninety four kickoff. But no, it was 554 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: fun to talk to him briefly and you could tell. 555 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 3: But like he said, he had a huge group of 556 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: family here. Around forty people that were here, Oh my god, 557 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: and so a big crew. 558 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: It takes up half of them. How many kids? 559 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: Hey, I know, I know, but yeah, it was definitely 560 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: kind of a It was a cool moment I think 561 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: for him, strange in a lot of ways, but as 562 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: you'd expect, very well received here, both by players, staff, fans, everybody. 563 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: Big hug from Lauren Jackson after the game is too. 564 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, you can tell that was not your normal 565 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: dap up kind of hug that was. 566 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: That was a hug hug. 567 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like two guys who have great admiration 568 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: and respect for one of which I think is like, like, 569 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 3: I know, we talked a lot about the Flacco thing 570 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 3: this week, but like, I don't think that we probably 571 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: spend enough time praising the fact that both these guys 572 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: have this good relationship and like the transition from one 573 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: to the other. The Ravens executed that as well as 574 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: it possibly could have, and that succession plan is so rare. 575 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: Not just the Ravens executed it, but the two players 576 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: involved executed it. 577 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: They did, and like in order for those guys that 578 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: have still have a good relationship and not be adversarial 579 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: and you know, finish the game and it's and it's 580 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: you know, high fives and hugs. I think that like 581 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: that speaks to both of them, two. 582 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: Very genuine beats, like extremely genuine guys. There's no fakeness 583 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: about either one of them, and they're both like one 584 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: of one. Nobody copies, they don't copy anybody. 585 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 3: Else, Yeah, you know what I mean. 586 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: And so I think they're as different as they are 587 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: is certainly in play style, they're alike in so many 588 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: ways and that's why they've also been both had tremendous 589 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: success here and so it was it was just cool 590 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: to see Joe play. 591 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: I hope he has a great season. 592 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want the Browns to get a 593 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: lot of wins, but I hope individually he plays well. 594 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: And but the Raven's defense got after him. 595 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but today, yeah, totally. And then lastly, this was 596 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: the Raven celebrated the thirtieth season. It was just in 597 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: addition to Joe, a lot of former players back in 598 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: the building, and so it was cool to see these guys, 599 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: ray Lewis, Jonathan walk out with OZI he knew something. 600 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: That was the coolest moment in celebration for me. 601 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ozzie is recognized as the legend of the game. 602 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: And behind him as he's introduced, it's Ray Lewis and 603 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 3: Jonathan Ogden both holding the Lombardi Troie. 604 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: The two trophies special movement. 605 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 3: That was special. And Ozzie is a guy that like 606 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: never wants to be in front of the camera. He's 607 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: always happy to being behind the scenes, but fit to 608 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 3: see him get that moment in that ovation, flanked by 609 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: the two players with the first two picks in franchise history, 610 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: that was a pretty powerful moment, and I think it 611 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: just was. 612 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: It was fun to see that well, and Joe Flack 613 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: was a pret during good pick and Lamar Jackson was 614 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: a pre durned good pick too, so it was kind 615 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: of fully an Azzie new some kind of day here, yes. 616 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: For sure, for sure. So again, it was great to 617 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: see the Ravens win this one in convincing fashion. They 618 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: improved to one on one on the season. As always, 619 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: you can email us give us your thoughts at the 620 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. We will enjoy 621 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: this one and then turn the page to the Detroit 622 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: Lions coming here to MCBAK Stadium on Monday Night football 623 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: next week. Thank you so much for listening. We'll talk 624 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: with you again this week.