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Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. I'm Kyle Yeoman's John. We haven't
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Speaker 1: How does what were your overall thoughts on Sunday's loss?
Speaker 3: Pretty stunned? Yeah, pretty stunned. I guess that all has
Speaker 3: to do with what your perspective is on the team
Speaker 3: and what you think this team's and I did not
Speaker 3: think they were capable of playing that poorly, particularly on defense.
Speaker 3: You know, you lose the three starting offensive lineman. I
Speaker 3: can understand some issues on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3: But just watching that game over again yesterday, I just
Speaker 3: can't believe. Like I don't want to say lack of effort,
Speaker 3: but I just there wasn't that, you know, that edge
Speaker 3: that I'm used to seeing this team play with. And
Speaker 3: there's just too much talent on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3: And if we're just being completely completely honest, where Seed
Speaker 3: is in the press box, we are directly right behind
Speaker 3: where the Cardinals run out of their their thing for
Speaker 3: pregame warm ups. I'm like, man, this is such a
Speaker 3: cool angle, but there's nobody on their team that like,
Speaker 3: is really I want to like take a video of.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's literally the level that that I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm being honest. If anybody disagrees with me,
Speaker 3: tell me an NFL team from top to bottom in
Speaker 3: terms of just a star power, standout star that like
Speaker 3: is worse than that Cardinals team. Like I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that Da and Connor and all these guys didn't you know,
Speaker 3: Rondell Moore, they didn't play well and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying that roster to do that to your defense,
Speaker 3: particularly in the first half, I'm stunned. I really am.
Speaker 3: Like it brought me back a little bit to Washington
Speaker 3: last year at the end of the season, a little
Speaker 3: bit to the Denver game the year before that. Now,
Speaker 3: they did have big responses to both those games, but
Speaker 3: I did not think that this team was capable of
Speaker 3: playing that poorly, And to be honest with you, knocks
Speaker 3: me down a little bit on the whole, Like, I
Speaker 3: don't think they're on the same category right now with
Speaker 3: the Eagles and Niners. I think they're a step down.
Speaker 3: And I didn't think that was the case going into
Speaker 3: that game. Even knowing, hey, this could be a trap game,
Speaker 3: you know, twelve point favorite whatever, you know, you can't
Speaker 3: sleep on anybody. I still thought, like I mean up
Speaker 3: into the point where even like late in the fourth,
Speaker 3: I'm like, they'll get a touchdown here, They'll be right
Speaker 3: back in this game. The momentums all on their side.
Speaker 3: And to me, the most alarming play was that sixty
Speaker 3: nine yard pass to just have somebody that wide open.
Speaker 3: I see that stuff on Saturdays, but on Sundays with
Speaker 3: a dan Quinn defense that was that was just odd
Speaker 3: to me. I couldn't believe it. Like again, where you're
Speaker 3: sitting in the prospect. You just like, well, there's a
Speaker 3: guy there. I'm pretty sure that they have eleven on
Speaker 3: the field. He seems like he's an eligible receiver. I
Speaker 3: don't know why he's twenty yards on the field. No
Speaker 3: one's near him. Again, like Saturdays, you see that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but from a defense that you think could be the
Speaker 3: best in the league, that was inexcusable.
Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about Legion of Boom. We're
Speaker 1: talking about seventy Steelers, eighty five Bears. I mean that
Speaker 1: was the trajectory through two weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just two weeks.
Speaker 1: But none of those things happened to that those defenses,
Speaker 1: right like that, none of the what Arizona did in
Speaker 1: Week three happened to the eighty five Bears. In the
Speaker 1: seventies steel Now in the Legion of Boom, like that
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. Now, they were certainly missing Trayvon Diggs,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't all Trayvon Digs that that was missing.
Speaker 3: Oh if they threw the ball all over the yard
Speaker 3: and you're just like, man, this secondary has got some
Speaker 3: work to do, which I couldn't see happening. But I
Speaker 3: guess after Sunday, I shouldn't say that there's anything I
Speaker 3: can't see happening because because that opened up a new
Speaker 3: chapter for me where I just I did not think
Speaker 3: but from where this defense is built. I thought that
Speaker 3: Washington game last year, the Denver game two years ago
Speaker 3: were gone. I didn't think that they could fall back
Speaker 3: down to that type of a level. And so that
Speaker 3: was that was an eye opener there that, to be honest, well,
Speaker 3: probably won't sit right with me unless they were to
Speaker 3: come out of these first five at four and one
Speaker 3: and you go to San Francisco you won that game.
Speaker 3: I could change a little bit on that. But as
Speaker 3: I sit right now, I see them going three and
Speaker 3: two through those first five and and who knows, this
Speaker 3: could be a game they look back on and they're like, man,
Speaker 3: I mean that ends up costing them a division, it
Speaker 3: caused you know, playoffs, are you know, seating or whatever
Speaker 3: like that. I don't know, but that's that one that
Speaker 3: there's no And then the whole talking about wake up
Speaker 3: collect for played two games? Who needs a wake up
Speaker 3: collect for two games? Like that's not needed. I know
Speaker 3: you got to say something because you know they were stunned,
Speaker 3: but still, I mean, I don't know why you would
Speaker 3: need a wake up collect for only two weeks of
Speaker 3: beating the Giants and Jets.
Speaker 4: No, it is.
Speaker 1: True, and I'm well said on all occasions. I want
Speaker 1: to get more into that here in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But we are going to do some news and notes.
Speaker 1: We're bringing it back. I mean, we had news and
Speaker 1: notes with Rob Phillip, we had news and notes with
Speaker 1: Patrick no C.
Speaker 2: Walker. Now we're gonna start it with Nick Harris. Nick
Speaker 2: Harris every day is going to give us our news.
Speaker 1: What you need to write down, what you need to
Speaker 1: keep aware of for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Anything stick out from yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So today we're gonna highlight the availabilities from yesterday
Speaker 5: with Mike McCarthy and all three coordinators. I thought I
Speaker 5: pressed some mute button for a little bit, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 6: It was kind of a strike half.
Speaker 5: It was a checkout check Okay, held up Mike McCarthy
Speaker 5: and all three coordinators. They took time with the with
Speaker 5: the media yesterday. We'll start with McCarthy asking about him
Speaker 5: about red zone problems. He said that they will spend
Speaker 5: more time on red zone this week, but they're not
Speaker 5: going to over react just yet.
Speaker 7: Hmm.
Speaker 2: So more time in the red zone. I mean, when
Speaker 2: you're working on more time in the red zone, what
Speaker 2: is that really? What are you trying to accomplish there?
Speaker 4: It's a point of emphasis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just putting more on it, that is all.
Speaker 4: That is always bringing attention to how important it is
Speaker 4: to your team that you can't take advantage of the
Speaker 4: fact that you're that you're getting down there to get
Speaker 4: down and you got to capitalize on it. So you
Speaker 4: just got to bring that back to the forefronts of
Speaker 4: guys and just say, hey, this is not our average
Speaker 4: portion of the field. Once we work to get down here,
Speaker 4: we have to end this drive with six points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also that was another part of the game
Speaker 3: that there's levels of this. The defensive performance to me
Speaker 3: is on the top level. But next down, I am
Speaker 3: surprised that they've gotten through three games not throwing a
Speaker 3: touchdown pass to a wide receiver. I mean that's pretty wild.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5: Talking to Dan Quinn yesterday, he was talking about the
Speaker 5: run defense. Obviously he was asked about it quite a bit.
Speaker 5: He called it a tail of two halves where in
Speaker 5: the first half they gave up one hundred and eighty
Speaker 5: one yards on the ground, it's the most for the
Speaker 5: franchise in thirty two years, and then overall giving up
Speaker 5: seven and a half yards per play throughout the entire game,
Speaker 5: the most in seven years. He said, sometimes you just
Speaker 5: have a performance that you're not pleased with at all.
Speaker 5: When you walk around our locker room, you had a
Speaker 5: lot of pissed off people, and they should be. We
Speaker 5: were not up to the center that we had set
Speaker 5: for ourselves. When you're going through a difficult performance, you
Speaker 5: do grow from them. I would love to say you
Speaker 5: learn from forty to nothing, but that ain't the truth.
Speaker 5: You got to have some adversity and come out the
Speaker 5: other end to show what you're capable of. These guys
Speaker 5: are a war your crew, and they will responded like crazy.
Speaker 2: It felt like he was a little uh.
Speaker 1: It was almost like he was offended in the way
Speaker 1: that people were talking about the defense and how it
Speaker 1: didn't look like a dan Quinn defense.
Speaker 2: Not offended by the.
Speaker 1: At least by the headlines, because the headlines were what
Speaker 1: they were and then were the truth. It was more
Speaker 1: offended because of kind of like what John was talking
Speaker 1: about initially of a dan Quinn defense doesn't look like
Speaker 1: that especially a dominant dan Quinn defense doesn't look like
Speaker 1: what they had against Arizona. But they did look like that.
Speaker 1: It didn't look like a dan Quinn defense. He said
Speaker 1: that was one of the things that hurt him the most.
Speaker 3: I think, so I didn't Maybe I'm reading too much
Speaker 3: in between the lines there.
Speaker 8: I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't really get a read on if he was
Speaker 3: talking about media saying that or people that text him,
Speaker 3: because he because you know how he mentioned later about
Speaker 3: like people like about the tray Von Diggs thing, you know,
Speaker 3: other people in the league reaching out to him. So
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, I wonder if that he's
Speaker 3: also talking about like other people in the league that
Speaker 3: were like, damn, you know, that didn't look like your
Speaker 3: your normal defense or something like that. And the thing
Speaker 3: they said he was so upset about is the fact
Speaker 3: that or he called it. He didn't call it a
Speaker 3: slap to the face. He said, like I think he
Speaker 3: said like five five fingers he had to the face.
Speaker 3: Was the fact that when he looks back and he's like,
Speaker 3: they were right, it doesn't it didn't look like our defense,
Speaker 3: you know. So I don't know, maybe I was reading
Speaker 3: too much into that, but I didn't. I don't think
Speaker 3: he was talking media, but maybe it was.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to the point that I was just
Speaker 5: about to highlight on that he had come. Dan Quinn
Speaker 5: always comes out with like an opening statement in his
Speaker 5: compress conferences. He's he only wanted the four to do it,
Speaker 5: and he had said in that opening statement he said,
Speaker 5: our performance felt like five fingers to the face. And
Speaker 5: whenever everyone was saying, you know that this defense didn't
Speaker 5: look like itself, it was five fingers to the face,
Speaker 5: and he said, you know, that was tough because it
Speaker 5: was true.
Speaker 6: So I think it's.
Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit of self reflection in that moment
Speaker 5: as well, and also just being disappointed.
Speaker 6: In the overall effort.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe it could be just you know, people getting
Speaker 5: on it a little too much, who knows. But nevertheless,
Speaker 5: you know he's gonna have an opportunity to bounce back
Speaker 5: from it, this defense overall against a really good New
Speaker 5: England team coming up next. Thing this is really interesting
Speaker 5: that we dove into with offense coordinator Brian Schottenheimer yesterday.
Speaker 5: Will Greer was signed by the Patriots last week onto
Speaker 5: their active squad, and.
Speaker 6: He said that he's probably a guy.
Speaker 5: He's probably being interrogated by Bill Belichick at the moment
Speaker 5: for hand signals and anything else that could help them
Speaker 5: give a little bit of an advantage going into this game.
Speaker 5: On Sunday, and Schottenheimer had a funny quote. He said,
Speaker 5: Will and Will and Zeke Ezechiel Elliott being there as well.
Speaker 5: Will and Zeke know where the bones are buried. Those
Speaker 5: are things you talk about. We certainly have more than
Speaker 5: one hand signal for most of our core concepts, and
Speaker 5: sometimes you can use it to your advantage.
Speaker 6: Everybody does it.
Speaker 5: You get a player that's played somewhere, you bring them
Speaker 5: in to talk about different things, and you're very selective
Speaker 5: about how much you put into it. I'm excited to
Speaker 5: see Will, but I'm sure he's being interrogated. It'll be
Speaker 5: a lot of late nights with the defensive coaching staff.
Speaker 1: If only we had somebody somebody on this panel, I
Speaker 1: don't know who.
Speaker 6: I call it Belichick spy mission.
Speaker 2: That would be the article played for Bill ella Check
Speaker 2: at some point in his career. I wonder if we
Speaker 2: had somebody like that, where what would they say? In
Speaker 2: this moment it was called Jesse Holly Jesse.
Speaker 1: No, he's on hanging with the boys.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, like like Shotty said, this is
Speaker 4: a part of the game. You get somebody your roster.
Speaker 4: They have information, they have insight. I mean, is Will
Speaker 4: Greer showing up isn't going to change the world. You
Speaker 4: already had Zeke on your team, So any information that
Speaker 4: you wanted to attain, it's already attainable if anybody knows it.
Speaker 4: I think Zeke would understand what was going on. Bringing
Speaker 4: Will Grear just adds another level to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but maybe like new offense, you know, new hand signals,
Speaker 5: new concepts. He's only a month off of it, not
Speaker 5: eight months off of it. You know, he did just
Speaker 5: throw thirty for thirty four in that offense or twenty
Speaker 5: nine thirty.
Speaker 4: I hear you.
Speaker 1: Jack Prescott was a play caller, and Jack Prescott was
Speaker 1: a play call.
Speaker 4: I mean when I was playing with the Giants, I
Speaker 4: mean I knew all the hand signals for New England.
Speaker 4: Of course you pass that information along, you know when
Speaker 4: you go and help you win a ring. So I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that's a part of the game.
Speaker 5: I think the key sentence was we're very selective aout
Speaker 5: how much we put into it, so I'm sure it'll
Speaker 5: be maybe once or twice it'll be like, hey, that
Speaker 5: looks familiar. Maybe look for this, but don't marry yourself
Speaker 5: to it.
Speaker 4: It really comes in play in the two minute because
Speaker 4: you know, from Shoddy's perspective, you could change things up
Speaker 4: scheme wise during the game. I could change up some signals.
Speaker 4: But when it gets hot and heavy and you're blown
Speaker 4: and going, the last thing you're thinking about is what's
Speaker 4: the new hand signal that we installed this week. No,
Speaker 4: you're going back to the same old foundational pillars that
Speaker 4: you have, and I'm going in them, and Dak's doing
Speaker 4: his thing, and I'm giving my signals, and that's when
Speaker 4: it comes to play, those those high intensity two minute
Speaker 4: drill type settings. That's when Dak's gonna call what will knows?
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, for the most part, you can't
Speaker 1: upend that in a week. No, there's no way that
Speaker 1: you could upend that in a week. You could change
Speaker 1: certain things, like you said, just to throw them off,
Speaker 1: But outside of that, I mean, that's just a minuscule
Speaker 1: amount of what the entire playbook could open up correct.
Speaker 4: Well, only be a small portion of the game possibly,
Speaker 4: you know, depending on the situation going into the half
Speaker 4: or any of the game. But it can come into
Speaker 4: play for sure.
Speaker 1: Does it happen often where you purposefully will put out
Speaker 1: a sign out there that Will Greer would know, But
Speaker 1: it's completely opposite from what it was in this show.
Speaker 4: So I'm saying it would have to be in a
Speaker 4: two minute situation, like you're not really doing that during
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, I mean, they're not running no huddle.
Speaker 4: You know, Dallas is getting to the ball. They're getting
Speaker 4: out huddle quickly getting to the ball, but they're not
Speaker 4: running no huddle. So it's not really going to come
Speaker 4: into too much play. Check with me's type of deal.
Speaker 4: Most of the check with me is that Dallas is running.
Speaker 4: You don't see Dak out there playing Peyton Manning where
Speaker 4: he's up there changing the entire play. You know, with
Speaker 4: this West Coast offense is usually just come up. You know,
Speaker 4: you choose the side that you want to go to.
Speaker 4: If you need to flip something over, you know, you
Speaker 4: over over. You give an over overcall because a lot
Speaker 4: of times the tight ends are on opposite ends or
Speaker 4: you're flipping things around, so it's not a lot of
Speaker 4: hand signals in this offense, so there's not a lot
Speaker 4: for a will to give away. But if they do
Speaker 4: find themselves in a two minute situation, that's when you
Speaker 4: can have your intendas up to see, hey, this can
Speaker 4: possibly hurt you.
Speaker 3: See this is what you do for this game? Is
Speaker 3: that for this one particular one, because of this, you
Speaker 3: just do the college thing and you just come out
Speaker 3: there and you have somebody on the sideline that as
Speaker 3: one of those signs as like for different it's like
Speaker 3: a Waterburger symbol, Tupac, Taylor Swift, Kyle and you know
Speaker 3: Kyle's face and you know, and it's.
Speaker 2: That that place the camera.
Speaker 3: I do love how that is used, well not maybe
Speaker 3: not as much in college it.
Speaker 1: Used to be, but that always just random stuff like
Speaker 1: how is that not trickled up to the NFL. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right, that's true because it started high school and
Speaker 1: then you got some colleges.
Speaker 2: Of course the colleges do you.
Speaker 3: Guys ever do that you're in college, but you were
Speaker 3: in you were in a conference that because to me,
Speaker 3: when I think of it, I think of Oregon.
Speaker 4: No right here, and I was like that looks silly.
Speaker 4: Couldn't stop them either.
Speaker 2: So that was about to say, wait a second, the.
Speaker 5: Pride of my career was that there's a school down
Speaker 5: in South Texas.
Speaker 6: How It'sville. They had used a picture of my dog
Speaker 6: just because no way.
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, I'd spent a lot of
Speaker 5: time around that program, and They're like, we want to
Speaker 5: use your face, and I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 5: use my face, you can use my dog, and so
Speaker 5: I gave them my dog's face. Yeah, it's the pride
Speaker 5: of my career. I have a picture of somewhere. I
Speaker 5: gonna find it, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, you're gonna have to tweet it out later
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 5: That last news and note from from yesterday, we had
Speaker 5: asked Mike McCarthy just about injuries, especially all three up
Speaker 5: from the offensive line. He said he hadn't really had
Speaker 5: a chance at that point yesterday to see how those
Speaker 5: guys were doing. No more on Wednesday, but while they
Speaker 5: were banged up going into the game, not a ton
Speaker 5: of injuries coming out of the game. Damon Clark had
Speaker 5: kind of banged up his shoulder a little bit, but
Speaker 5: it looks like he'll.
Speaker 4: Be all right going forward.
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones was asked on the one O five three,
Speaker 3: his radio hit on Monday about the same thing about Beattish,
Speaker 3: Zach Martin, and Tyler all being Tyron, Tyler, and zach
Speaker 3: Man's computer tools all being back for Sunday. He said,
Speaker 3: it's possible. We'll just have to see how the week goes.
Speaker 3: You got to take each guy week to week. Is
Speaker 3: it possible, yes, Do we know for sure? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what to think in terms of
Speaker 1: injuries right now, because, like we talked about yesterday, we
Speaker 1: came into the week.
Speaker 2: We were at least we finished our show on Friday.
Speaker 1: We were doing the doing the Bushwhacker, and we were
Speaker 1: getting out of there and we were saying, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have some offensive lineman back, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you don't. So they're all back.
Speaker 3: And Mike McCarthy sounded genuinely surprised by what they had
Speaker 3: to go through because and felt like it was on
Speaker 3: him that he didn't get more reps with some of
Speaker 3: those guys during the week, like a TJ. Bass, you know,
Speaker 3: like Chumah, thinking that hey, we might have to go
Speaker 3: with all these guys. I think he was pretty confident
Speaker 3: from what he was hearing that, Hey, I'm going to
Speaker 3: have at least two of these guys for that game.
Speaker 3: And so it sounds like there was a lot of
Speaker 3: scrambling going on right before that game to figure out
Speaker 3: I mean Zach Martin, I mean Tyron Smith was out
Speaker 3: there warming up like he normally does. I thought for
Speaker 3: sure Tyron Smith was playing, and then he came out,
Speaker 3: you know, fully dressed. I will say when he ran
Speaker 3: out of the tunnel, he did not look like himself.
Speaker 3: It did look like it was like a they want
Speaker 3: me to win in a uniform, I'll come out here,
Speaker 3: but there's no chance I'm going today. Like even in
Speaker 3: the like warm up lines and the stretching lines that
Speaker 3: I was like, that does not look like Tyron Smith
Speaker 3: is going to play. But but yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: that they got the prep time that they were hoping
Speaker 3: or probably should have gotten with those young offensive linemen.
Speaker 3: But still, even with that being said, I still think
Speaker 3: that game was there for them in the second half.
Speaker 2: I really no doubt. Yeah, they still should have been
Speaker 2: good enough to win that game.
Speaker 1: And I think most Cowboys fans out there that are
Speaker 1: frustrated with the performance probably thought the same thing.
Speaker 2: Probably thought something very similar.
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Speaker 2: Gary, what's up? You're on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 14: Hey, you go tell y'all doing it?
Speaker 15: Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you.
Speaker 14: A couple of positive things.
Speaker 15: And then I got a question for Isaiah that I
Speaker 15: hope he doesn't take the wrong way, But they really
Speaker 15: did clamp down on the run in the second half,
Speaker 15: so it seems like they adjusted and played much better
Speaker 15: run defense in the second half. The offense, I don't
Speaker 15: really have a problem with it, except for the red zone.
Speaker 15: But we are running the ball well, We're doing well
Speaker 15: in between the twenties. We just got to get the
Speaker 15: red zone stuff fixed. But this brings me to my concern.
Speaker 15: And I'm not questioning the toughness of the players, don't
Speaker 15: get me wrong, but Isaiah, do you think we're being
Speaker 15: a little overcautious with some of our players? I mean,
Speaker 15: because we heard all we you know, Zach's gonna be
Speaker 15: able to go, the autists will probably be able to go,
Speaker 15: and then all of a sudden at the last second,
Speaker 15: we're sitting free offensive linemen. I mean, at some point,
Speaker 15: don't you just have to you know, I'm an old guy.
Speaker 15: Don't you just have to rub some dirt on it
Speaker 15: and go.
Speaker 14: Out there and play.
Speaker 4: You know, I respect your question, I appreciate your question.
Speaker 4: I do believe that there's always that element to and
Speaker 4: I think a lot of these guys that play the
Speaker 4: game of football, regardless of what team, have to do
Speaker 4: that because everybody plays hurt you. The injuries and hurt
Speaker 4: are two different things. Explain that to my kids all
Speaker 4: the time. I do believe that I have wholehearted trust
Speaker 4: in this training staff. So if they were in a
Speaker 4: position to play without causing any further damage to something
Speaker 4: that was going to put you in a bad predicament
Speaker 4: going forward, then I think that they made the right
Speaker 4: decision in regards to Tyrone Tyler Biadis. As soon as
Speaker 4: I heard that he had a hamstring, I knew he
Speaker 4: wasn't going to play. I mean, I can't sit up
Speaker 4: here and say that on the air because it's I
Speaker 4: don't know, no, right, I didn't hear it's not official
Speaker 4: word from the training staff. But anytime my office a
Speaker 4: linement hurts his hamstring, he's going to be out. It's
Speaker 4: just is what it is. Zach Martin. That was the
Speaker 4: surprise to me in terms of the whole ankle. We
Speaker 4: understood that he had a couple of plays in the
Speaker 4: previous game that kind of almost really put him out,
Speaker 4: and that's why they got him out of there, like, hey, okay,
Speaker 4: we've kind of we've had our look. Our look almost
Speaker 4: ran out on Zach. So taking care of him. But
Speaker 4: I understand you're concerned in terms of putting your you know,
Speaker 4: the team, not having their guys when they possibly could
Speaker 4: have still played. There's a there's a give and take
Speaker 4: to that. You know, you go out there, you play
Speaker 4: Zach Martin, you played Tyron Smith, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: those guys go out there and they make their injuries
Speaker 4: worse that they if you keep them out, they could
Speaker 4: be healthy within a week, but if you play them,
Speaker 4: they could be out for possibly three weeks if they
Speaker 4: make it worse. Right, So there's there's give and take
Speaker 4: on that. So you have to be smart about how
Speaker 4: you're how you're managing those guys, especially early on in
Speaker 4: the season.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that this is the case. I'm
Speaker 3: just throwing out a hypothetical here. I'm sure there are
Speaker 3: plenty of people that think, going to that game when
Speaker 3: it starts and you find out, oh, all three of
Speaker 3: those aren't playing, is that because it's Arizona. Would it
Speaker 3: be the same if they were playing San Francisco. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying that there's a lot of people. I guarantee
Speaker 3: that it wouldn't be the same if it was the playoffs.
Speaker 3: There has to be people that think that. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that they would, but I just want to know
Speaker 3: your thoughts.
Speaker 4: People are going to ask that question. I mean, but
Speaker 4: the reality is you're in the first quarter of your
Speaker 4: season and you're you're you're talking about guys that you
Speaker 4: have to have. These aren't skill position players that you
Speaker 4: just the next man up, like these guys like you
Speaker 4: have to you have to protect these guys, you know,
Speaker 4: and these guys are going to get beat up. It's
Speaker 4: not like they're they may or may not get hit
Speaker 4: some point this season, you know, Okay, is it a concussion? Okay?
Speaker 4: Can we could probably run them some routes that and
Speaker 4: you know, keep them away from getting hit by safety.
Speaker 4: He's like, no, these guys are going to get hit
Speaker 4: every single play. These guys are gonna be, you know,
Speaker 4: putting their foot in the ground and talking about ankles
Speaker 4: and knees. These guys are gonna have to bear this
Speaker 4: weight of other guys for sixty Dallas's standpoint, they're running
Speaker 4: eighty plays a game, you know, for for seventeen games,
Speaker 4: so there is a management aspect to it, especially when
Speaker 4: when you have older players.
Speaker 3: And then to the colors point, like, you know, talking
Speaker 3: about how being an old school rub some dirt on
Speaker 3: it and things like that. I will say that the
Speaker 3: we have more information now than ever before. I think
Speaker 3: that's why you see so much of the you know,
Speaker 3: load management in the NBA, because of the fact that
Speaker 3: there's just is a lot more data that you know,
Speaker 3: and that's why all these guys are all wearing all
Speaker 3: the I don't won't say the brand because I don't
Speaker 3: know which one the Cowboys used, yeah, either, but I
Speaker 3: think it's I think it's Catapult, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: But anyway, like they're all wearing them. Yeah, that we're
Speaker 3: in the GPS monitors on them like practice you know games.
Speaker 3: I mean all the colleges are like that now too.
Speaker 3: So it's like there is a lot more information than
Speaker 3: there used to be, so you you have to account
Speaker 3: for that as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was talking with Patrick Walker on the sideline before
Speaker 5: the game, whenefore we found out that Tyrone was probably
Speaker 5: not going to be able to go, and he asked me,
Speaker 5: and it was an interesting question. He was like, if
Speaker 5: this was Week sixteen and they were fighting for playoff positioning,
Speaker 5: do all three of these guys play? And I was
Speaker 5: like probably probably, Yeah, definitely if it's playing.
Speaker 4: But at that point, again, it goes back to the
Speaker 4: point I just made in terms of this is load management. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is like risk risk, risk versus reward. Like if
Speaker 4: you drop a game, which they did, they drop a game. Okay,
Speaker 4: it sucks, absolutely, it sucks regardless of who the op
Speaker 4: point it is. But guess what. You know that these
Speaker 4: guys are going to be healthy most likely this coming week.
Speaker 4: You know, you rather have that going forward than than
Speaker 4: risking them and re injuring or making it worse. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know that Cincinnati was holding your breath yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other issue with a lot of this is is
Speaker 3: that not only do they have more information, we have
Speaker 3: more information we know about all these teams, all these
Speaker 3: other injuries that if it wasn't for social media and
Speaker 3: the internet, you probably wouldn't know about a lot of
Speaker 3: this stuff, let's say twenty years ago, about each individual team.
Speaker 3: And so I think a lot of people will see
Speaker 3: these certain things and it's almost like it becomes, oh,
Speaker 3: this is the injury three to four weeks, this is it.
Speaker 3: This is because of all these other players, And that's
Speaker 3: not the case. Human beings everyone's differently. I mean, I'll
Speaker 3: give you a great example on the positive side for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys is Terren Steele. Most people, if you look
Speaker 3: at the injury had, you would not think that he'd
Speaker 3: be back to where he is this quickly. And then
Speaker 3: other players might have the same injury and it might
Speaker 3: take them a little bit longer. You don't know from
Speaker 3: player to player what's it going to be. I mean,
Speaker 3: Steven Yes said yesterday on the radio. No, he said Tyler,
Speaker 3: so that could be Smith could be hottish. I took
Speaker 3: it as he was talking about Tyler Smith and he
Speaker 3: said that they thought that was going to be three
Speaker 3: to four weeks. And so you know he's back after
Speaker 3: he's in. Tyler Smith is back, you know, in the
Speaker 3: third game, so it will only be in two weeks.
Speaker 3: But you know, you don't know for sure. But there
Speaker 3: is so much information out there now where you're like, oh, Burrow, Calf,
Speaker 3: dak Head Calf, let's see how many wigs and he
Speaker 3: will be back week seven, and if he's not, then
Speaker 3: there's something wrong. It's like everybody's different. You don't know
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean they're projections, yeah, and not even to talk
Speaker 1: specifically about that. But to look ahead and to make
Speaker 1: those armchair trainer I mean, you've always had armchair quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Now you've got these armchair trainers that are out there
Speaker 1: as well. Let's not put these guys in harm way
Speaker 1: harm's way. We're gonna get that information this week too,
Speaker 1: whether or not they're in practice, whether they're ready for
Speaker 1: the game. That's when we're gonna see whether or not
Speaker 1: they could have gone on Sunday, because if they're both
Speaker 1: in practice in pads tomorrow, then it's like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: this was a load management.
Speaker 2: Maybe this's always a question.
Speaker 4: Also to the point, I mean, yes, you're playing Arizona.
Speaker 4: Plays that plays a role in Indusrael, right, So not
Speaker 4: because Arizona is a lesser opponent, but because if your
Speaker 4: guys are not prepared to go over the next few weeks,
Speaker 4: because you made the decision to play them in week three, right,
Speaker 4: versus holding them out for a week. Now you don't
Speaker 4: have your starters against New England's D line. Now you
Speaker 4: don't have your starters against forty nine ers D line,
Speaker 4: and good luck with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's where a lot of the focus has
Speaker 1: been as week five.
Speaker 2: I mean, we even talked about it last week. Let's
Speaker 2: gohead and fast forward. Let's go and be four and
Speaker 2: oh and both of.
Speaker 4: These guys don't work out. New England d line is
Speaker 4: nasty too.
Speaker 2: Now they are.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that a little bit more tomorrow, right
Speaker 1: or what was that Thursday?
Speaker 6: Thursday?
Speaker 4: Is that preview?
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Bob in Rio Grand Valley.
Speaker 1: You're on Talking Cowboys, Bob, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16: Borning guys, appreciate you taking my call, and let me
Speaker 16: tell you I love your program.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 16: I've got something for the guy who's one of the
Speaker 16: two guys on the podcast that I consider to be
Speaker 16: the voice of reasoning at This is for Isaiah. But
Speaker 16: tell me if I'm missing this, Isaiah. I think that
Speaker 16: we have the short yardage solution already on our team.
Speaker 16: I think we have the red zone the solution already
Speaker 16: on our team. And I realize that the guy comes
Speaker 16: from a small school, but so does Tony followed. I'm very,
Speaker 16: very impressed with Hunter Lupki and every opportunity that he's
Speaker 16: been given so far in the preseason and in the
Speaker 16: regular season, he has excelled. He's he runs like a
Speaker 16: half back, even though he's a fullback. He catches like
Speaker 16: a slot receiver. He gets yacked after he catches the ball.
Speaker 16: He's a lucy and he's powerful. I think that he
Speaker 16: would be utilizing him more in offense, particularly in the
Speaker 16: short yardage situations, would be a benefit.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Yeah, thank you for the question.
Speaker 4: I do agree with you that he is a threat
Speaker 4: and he's a weapon. I think they have been working
Speaker 4: him in a good amount over the last few weeks.
Speaker 4: He's earning more trust with his staff the more he
Speaker 4: goes out there and continues to execute. I don't think
Speaker 4: it's in it's a personnel issue to your point, I
Speaker 4: don't think it's a personal issue at all. The more
Speaker 4: film I watch, the more I believe that these guys
Speaker 4: are offensively, at least playing kind of robotic. They're there.
Speaker 4: When you're in a new system, you're trying to do
Speaker 4: it exactly like you see it on paper. When you're
Speaker 4: confident in the system, you start feeling like I can
Speaker 4: start making tweaks to how I run this route. Right
Speaker 4: when I start feeling comfortable, Okay, Jack can understand versus
Speaker 4: man coverage and they're playing off or cover zero now
Speaker 4: instead of running up five yards, putting my foot in
Speaker 4: the grunt and coming in like it shows on paper.
Speaker 4: Now I can just take one step and go across
Speaker 4: because I'm open right now. They're not making those alterations
Speaker 4: right now. Also, I think that you know, some of
Speaker 4: the better players on this team are not being utilized
Speaker 4: correctly in that part of the field. So I think
Speaker 4: a lot of those things are going to improve, especially
Speaker 4: when you get your starting offensive lineback, because they will
Speaker 4: run the ball more, so you might see more Liftkey.
Speaker 4: I think you'll see a good actually a good share
Speaker 4: of him, but I'm not sure if he'll be the
Speaker 4: one carrying them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is that right now they are
Speaker 3: relatively healthy at their skill positions, at least having the
Speaker 3: guys available, and when you look at it, there's just
Speaker 3: not that many spots available for Lipke to get more
Speaker 3: touches because are you giving more touches and you're taking
Speaker 3: Michael Gallup off the field or Brandon Cooks or Ceedee
Speaker 3: Lamb or Tony Pollard. So then it comes down to
Speaker 3: is he getting more than Jake Ferguson. And then in
Speaker 3: with that tight end group, because they're not going to
Speaker 3: give it more. I mean, there's only eleven players on
Speaker 3: the field you can when the Cowboys are completely healthy,
Speaker 3: it's pretty cut and dry. Who are going to get
Speaker 3: the most touches, you know? So maybe if Lipkey was
Speaker 3: going to get more, it would probably have to cut
Speaker 3: into you know, like a Peyton hendershots role. But that's
Speaker 3: about the only person I can see. Maybe you give
Speaker 3: him some more work there with with the bigger packages
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Just it's tough when they're not
Speaker 3: going to take a lout those skill guys off the
Speaker 3: field to bring in, you know, a tight end slash,
Speaker 3: running back, slash full back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, first off, I was really scared to ask who
Speaker 5: the other voice of reason was.
Speaker 6: Now I'm curious, Yeah, I want to know who.
Speaker 2: It's probably you because if the Hunter, it had to
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 6: But my ego couldn't handle it not being.
Speaker 2: The captain of the Hunter. Lipkey fan base over here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, now that's my favorite topics we talked about
Speaker 5: on the show. Yeah, he got his first two touches
Speaker 5: on Sunday. He did really well with him specifically the handoff.
Speaker 5: They had a guy that came right through the a
Speaker 5: gap and he just kind of tiptoed around him and
Speaker 5: spun around him really quick. It should have been only
Speaker 5: about a one yard game, ended up turning it into
Speaker 5: like a stumble and grumble nine yards. I really loved
Speaker 5: what I saw there, and actually it was something I
Speaker 5: kind of thought about coming out of the game. You know,
Speaker 5: can he be used more in short yard situations? Can
Speaker 5: they use him more in red zone situations? I think
Speaker 5: there's definitely an opportunity there. But again, get that offensive
Speaker 5: line healthy and let's see.
Speaker 1: That's how you know Bob is a longtime listener of
Speaker 1: this show is that he one called Isaiah the Voice
Speaker 1: of Reason. We used to call Isaiah that like all
Speaker 1: the time right when we first started on this podcast.
Speaker 2: And then he also listens currently because he brought up
Speaker 2: Hunter Lipkey and that's Hunter Lipkey hype train over here.
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say I follow a lot of
Speaker 3: different people that cover this team and cover the NFL,
Speaker 3: and I don't know many people outside of Isaiah that
Speaker 3: were talking about how like, don't sleep on this Arizona
Speaker 3: Cardinals team. Don't sleep on the Arizona Cardinals team. And
Speaker 3: I definitely had my blanket I was sleeping. I'll say
Speaker 3: that right now, up until up until even kickoff. I
Speaker 3: was like, nah, I mean they'll give him a little
Speaker 3: bit of a run early on, but I'm like fourth
Speaker 3: I mean not even fourth quarter. I'm like, second half,
Speaker 3: they'll come out, They'll they'll straighten this out.
Speaker 5: I will say, seventy five yards from josh UMAs. We
Speaker 5: didn't get a chance to talk about it yesterday when
Speaker 5: he broke off that forty four yarder on the read option,
Speaker 5: I texted Kyle some exploitents.
Speaker 3: I thought about looking when it happened, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it because I know that
Speaker 3: he's already worried enough, so I'm not going to be.
Speaker 5: I definitely texted Kyle of a bad curse word, and
Speaker 5: you should.
Speaker 4: See I got you should. I stood up.
Speaker 2: I was in I was sitting down.
Speaker 1: I just settled into my chair and I was getting
Speaker 1: ready to get my notebook out and start taking notes.
Speaker 2: And I stood up and I was like no, no,
Speaker 2: like just yelling at the screen.
Speaker 1: Everybody in there outside of Isaiah were like, what is
Speaker 1: this dude talking about.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there literally like this. Yeah.
Speaker 5: He ended the game with two carries for what fifty
Speaker 5: one yards and he had had he'd had that at
Speaker 5: the end of the first quarter.
Speaker 6: They just gave him.
Speaker 4: They would have did more of that. He would he
Speaker 4: definitely would not.
Speaker 3: I'll and I'll say this, I'll give him a chance.
Speaker 3: Let's see a few more weeks. If this is a
Speaker 3: team that wins like three or four games, I'm sorry, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to think any differently than I did
Speaker 3: before the game. Yeah, they played great, had a great
Speaker 3: game plan, everything was great. Now is that all of
Speaker 3: a sudden they got they got lightning in a bottle
Speaker 3: and this team is about to roll. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying make the playoffs, Arizona, Arizona, but if they if
Speaker 3: they're gonna win like eight or nine games, I'll sit
Speaker 3: back and be like, man, I never saw that coming
Speaker 3: with that team. But and I'm talking even if Kyler
Speaker 3: comes back and he's great and whatever like that. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about like, when I look at that team right now,
Speaker 3: that looks like a team to me that that's drafting
Speaker 3: in the top ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, josh Ja Dobbs getting his first career win as
Speaker 2: a starter. He was zero and four. He was good
Speaker 2: before that.
Speaker 6: Happy for buddy. He played was actually really good dude,
Speaker 6: real quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. All right, let's go to Brian in
Speaker 2: Kansas City. When we will go come Brian.
Speaker 1: Hold on for one second, we do need to take
Speaker 1: a break, so we'll go to Brian in a second.
Speaker 2: I didn't look at the clock before, and that one's
Speaker 2: on me, guys.
Speaker 1: I will get to Brian and we'll hinswer some of
Speaker 1: your text messages when we come back here on Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 14: Good boarding, gentlemen.
Speaker 4: What's going on morning?
Speaker 14: Well, you know, I was wondering if you played basketball, Kyle,
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Speaker 2: You guess I like it.
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Speaker 4: In the group.
Speaker 14: Damn right, I'll tell you so. Uh you know at first,
Speaker 14: you know, Kyle, every time I call in, I try
Speaker 14: to remember this and I never do. I want to
Speaker 14: just tell you how much I love the Draft show
Speaker 14: and appreciate all the work you guys put into that.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 14: It is absolutely fantastic for people like me who don't
Speaker 14: have time to try to figure all that stuff out.
Speaker 14: A great way to just listen in and get some
Speaker 14: really good information from people who have studied those players.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, Brian, thanks for that.
Speaker 14: So my question is a lot of people talked about,
Speaker 14: you know, having three offensive linemen out, asking how much
Speaker 14: that changed your game plan? And I hate to do
Speaker 14: this because everybody's asked Isaiah specifically a question this morning,
Speaker 14: But being the quarterback in the room, I'm just curious
Speaker 14: how much of that how does that get into you know,
Speaker 14: you can't speak for another man, but when you're preparing
Speaker 14: and in the game and the heat of the moment,
Speaker 14: how much of your mentality does that affect? Not having
Speaker 14: your guys with you And I'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 14: Have a good one, guys.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Ed, thanks for a question. Uh So there's
Speaker 4: two parts of that. There's a professional side where it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: you know, next man up, doesn't matter, I'm gonna execute
Speaker 4: the game plan. And then you got the real version
Speaker 4: of you who's like, dang man, like all right, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit. I have a little bit
Speaker 4: less time, you know, with they do it go over
Speaker 4: I do than I do with Tyrant. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: just the reality. Man. We may not be able to
Speaker 4: run up the middle as much as we wanted to
Speaker 4: because we're missing our you know, Zach Martin. You know,
Speaker 4: so there's there's some actual truth to some of the
Speaker 4: things that go on in your head. You try to
Speaker 4: you still try to go out there and execute your
Speaker 4: game plan, but coaches are making changes, players are making changes.
Speaker 4: Players are making, you know, very educated decisions based upon
Speaker 4: the reality of the personnel that's out there. So you know,
Speaker 4: there's really two guys. You got, you gotta you got
Speaker 4: the you got the professional side sitting on one side,
Speaker 4: and you have the real version sitting on the other shoulder.
Speaker 4: And it's a it's real, it's a real balance. But
Speaker 4: you still have to go out there and execute. That's
Speaker 4: the professional side of you. You still got to go
Speaker 4: out there and make it happen. The offensive line honestly
Speaker 4: didn't play that bad. There were individuals who didn't have
Speaker 4: great showings, but holistically, I don't think that it was
Speaker 4: a bad performance by them.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of text messages that are kind of
Speaker 1: around that I don't have a name on this one specifically,
Speaker 1: but it's talking about Dak Prescott missing reads and you've
Speaker 1: talked about that a couple of times in the past
Speaker 1: couple of years.
Speaker 2: In the past of.
Speaker 1: It happens for every quarterback, but it's happened significantly for Dak,
Speaker 1: especially these last two seasons.
Speaker 2: Did you see any more of that on Sunday? And
Speaker 2: is that something that you should probably keep an eye on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mentioned was a Gannon, the head coach, former
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator for Philadelphia. I mentioned that during my weekly
Speaker 4: review that he's I guess was on Thursday, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: my Scott and report that he has given Dak problems.
Speaker 4: Dak has struggled with that. He does a great job
Speaker 4: disguising his coverages. It showed up again. It did show
Speaker 4: up again. Dak got lucky. There was about three balls
Speaker 4: that should have been picked off that Dak should not
Speaker 4: have thrown. There was some old characteristics of Dak that
Speaker 4: crept back in this most recent week, and he just
Speaker 4: didn't It wasn't apparent to the general public because they
Speaker 4: weren't picked off. They were just kind of batted down
Speaker 4: or tip balls. They kind of went as incomplete. But
Speaker 4: the decision behind throwing them was like, bro, what what
Speaker 4: are you doing?
Speaker 1: You think that's a byproduct of having a makeshift offensive
Speaker 1: line and having that other side, that other shoulder or.
Speaker 4: Is that just Nope? I think that is bad. I
Speaker 4: think it was just bad performance. He did not have.
Speaker 4: He didn't have the greatest of his showings, and like
Speaker 4: I said, luckily, you know, I mentioned this last year.
Speaker 4: I think one time where I was like, hey, there
Speaker 4: was one a couple of games, was like he should
Speaker 4: have had a few picks. He's like, oh, no, it
Speaker 4: wasn't that bad. The next day, the next game it
Speaker 4: showed up and that time they got picked off. Right.
Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that he doesn't revert back to what
Speaker 4: it was. A lot of those decisions that I'm referring
Speaker 4: to really came when he came when he got out
Speaker 4: of the pocket. A lot of times when he's in
Speaker 4: the pocket, it is really one two three, get it
Speaker 4: out right or catch, you know, set your feet, throw,
Speaker 4: just because how this offense is kind of created. But
Speaker 4: when he got out of the pocket, he was still
Speaker 4: starting to start. He went back to trying to force
Speaker 4: things that weren't there.
Speaker 3: And those three that you're talking about were did you
Speaker 3: find them to be worse same level? How did they
Speaker 3: compare to the inner sception?
Speaker 4: Well, the interception was a very scripted I'll say that's
Speaker 4: not the worth best word to use it. That play
Speaker 4: was dialed up, like they knew what the coverage is
Speaker 4: going to be telegraphed. Yeah, I mean they knew what
Speaker 4: it was going to be. Right, So just because you
Speaker 4: know what it's going to be, and just because you
Speaker 4: see the coverage as you practiced, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: everything got executed the way it should have been. B
Speaker 4: Cooks didn't run the best of routes. Dak should not
Speaker 4: have thrown the ball the way he threw the ball.
Speaker 4: I think the read was right, but the timing on
Speaker 4: that particular play has to be so precise. The ball
Speaker 4: has to be absolutely perfect because if you go back
Speaker 4: and watch it, if that guy doesn't pick it off.
Speaker 4: Then there's literally the two safeties that were split safeties,
Speaker 4: which is why this play was ran right. He's faking
Speaker 4: as if he's running the over route. He runs it out,
Speaker 4: that middle linebacker puts his foot in the ground. He
Speaker 4: supposed to go over the top. I ran that route
Speaker 4: a thousand times in practice. It's just a great scheme,
Speaker 4: but it has to be done correct because if you don't,
Speaker 4: if you throw the ball with low trajectory, he gets
Speaker 4: picked off by a six four linebacker.
Speaker 5: I think what he tried to do instead was like
Speaker 5: zip it by his ear, and there.
Speaker 4: Was no there's no there's no there's no zipping. I
Speaker 4: mean there's there's no zipping on that the play. It
Speaker 4: has to be the perfect environment for that play, and
Speaker 4: it just wasn't the perfect environment. So you have to
Speaker 4: either throw a perfect ball with perfect timing or you
Speaker 4: got to come off of that read, and that decision
Speaker 4: obviously didn't happen. Uh.
Speaker 2: I want to hit some of the text messages that
Speaker 2: we've been getting. One of my favorites so far is
Speaker 2: a really good question from Patrick in Las Vegas. Was
Speaker 2: the problem on the.
Speaker 1: Run defense just a scheme issue or a lack of
Speaker 1: execution issue. Where where does it start from stopping the run? Nick,
Speaker 1: whenever you look back at.
Speaker 2: The film, is execution scheme? Where does it need to
Speaker 2: start first?
Speaker 5: I don't think it was necessarily a scheme issue. I
Speaker 5: think Arizona had the right scheme though. I mean it
Speaker 5: was a lot of poll action. Offensive linemen were designed
Speaker 5: to get into the second level. Everyone had a responsibility
Speaker 5: pre snap and it was getting a lot of those
Speaker 5: guys were getting into the second level with Mark east
Speaker 5: Bell or Donovan Wilson, guys that were, you know, trying
Speaker 5: to come down and defend the run. You could look
Speaker 5: at the Joshua Dobbs run Donovan Wilson, he just misses
Speaker 5: the hole. So that's that's just bad gap integrity. He
Speaker 5: was supposed to come around to the outside. He just never.
Speaker 5: Joshua Dobbs never even faked to go inside. He was
Speaker 5: coming around the whole time. Donovan Wilson just missed coming in.
Speaker 5: There was a big play that I believe it was
Speaker 5: on the Rondell More touchdown the forty five yarder where
Speaker 5: Mark east Bell got held up in the second level.
Speaker 5: I mean it was just a really good block coming
Speaker 5: in and Markus couldn't do anything about that. That's just
Speaker 5: a really good scheme by Arizona. And there was one
Speaker 5: where they had a receiver come into the hole and
Speaker 5: they were able to lead the way for James Connor.
Speaker 5: James Connor picked up about a fifty to twenty yard game.
Speaker 5: So there was a lot of poll action and we
Speaker 5: hadn't seen a lot of that in the first two weeks.
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, that second level it's still young.
Speaker 5: I think they were, you know, taking him back a
Speaker 5: little bit. I think that was a huge contributor to
Speaker 5: the run defense problems. But overall that the biggest problem.
Speaker 5: There was no push up front. Guys were getting flushed
Speaker 5: out completely. I mean, Michael Parsons was almost ineffective as
Speaker 5: he could be in the run game. DeMarcus Lawrence had
Speaker 5: a couple of big plays, but you know, I've always
Speaker 5: said on the show, I think he's the best run
Speaker 5: defender on that defensive line.
Speaker 6: He didn't have he was getting flushed out.
Speaker 5: I mean they were trying to take the edges completely
Speaker 5: out and just ram that interior, and they did a
Speaker 5: great job of it.
Speaker 3: Those big plays in the first half, the four really
Speaker 3: big runs twenty plus runs all to the left, all
Speaker 3: the way from DeMarcus Lawrence. I think I felt like
Speaker 3: probably were on purpose, you know, even one of them
Speaker 3: on what I call it the Kyle play where you know,
Speaker 3: vander esh is the right edge and Micah's up over
Speaker 3: the center, one of them gave you know, that turned
Speaker 3: into one of those big plays like that as well.
Speaker 3: But I'm just always gonna think it was Kyle play
Speaker 3: now because question the Dan Quinn when you asked him
Speaker 3: about it and at training camp and Dan didn't want to.
Speaker 3: He asked Dan at training camp about the like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know in those plays where you know, how.
Speaker 6: Did it become a Kyle quay?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How was it a Kyle play?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: That's that's a big play.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. I'm sorry it was like wait
Speaker 2: a second talking about that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you were.
Speaker 2: Looking at him.
Speaker 6: I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2: No, it's funny.
Speaker 3: Yes, a Nick play.
Speaker 4: Turn to me.
Speaker 2: I was like, Nick was the one that that's the.
Speaker 6: Beam. I'm gonna what did he say? Get on me for.
Speaker 1: When whenever penalties come into fruition and that's when it's
Speaker 1: a Kiku.
Speaker 2: Whenever I ask about pen. That's when it happens like that,
Speaker 2: that's fun to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a ton of these text messages.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bunch a bunch of them together. This one,
Speaker 1: specifically from the five seven zero says watching Philadelphia run
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay last night provided some more of the
Speaker 1: concern with the run defense.
Speaker 2: Of course, you've seen what Philadelphia can do.
Speaker 1: New England can run the ball, run the ball to
Speaker 1: they can they can tote the rock as well.
Speaker 2: How concerned are.
Speaker 1: You going into these next three games, Isaiah whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to slowing down the run if those things aren't fixed.
Speaker 4: New England, I'm not too worried. I think that does
Speaker 4: a relatively good job against teams that just line up
Speaker 4: and come downhill. Like I mentioned last week, you know,
Speaker 4: Arizona proposes an issue because of their style of run, right,
Speaker 4: they run his zone raid scheme. They do a good
Speaker 4: job with a lot of movement, a lot of misdirection.
Speaker 4: Misdirection kills this defense and really puts their feet in
Speaker 4: quicksand they just stop their feet and they're like, okay,
Speaker 4: now what's happening. And then the second level vander Esch
Speaker 4: took terrible angles this week. I mean, he's not fast
Speaker 4: as it is, so you can't take a bad angle
Speaker 4: and be slow. It's just a bad combination. And then
Speaker 4: you know, defensive ends got taken out of the game
Speaker 4: because the reizone read holds defensive ends running quarterbacks whole
Speaker 4: defensive ends. So when you have a defensive end that's
Speaker 4: in a wide nine technique and all of a sudden
Speaker 4: he stays out there, well there's a gaping hole right
Speaker 4: on the inside. Especially when you're running stunts with your
Speaker 4: defensive line right you don't have gap discipline. So those
Speaker 4: type of schemes. San Francisco proposes those same issues. Obviously,
Speaker 4: because all the misdirection and motions and all the things
Speaker 4: that the snapp of the ball New England is not
Speaker 4: as much, not as much, I think that. I think
Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to be as much of
Speaker 4: a struggle. They're gonna be adamant about trying to come
Speaker 4: downhill and run the ball. Obviously that's just because that's
Speaker 4: coach Belichick. But Billy O'Brien wants to throw the ball,
Speaker 4: so that's going to be the struggle.
Speaker 3: How about when Dan was asked about making sure it
Speaker 3: was Dan. Now, all these names are messing, but when
Speaker 3: Dan was asked specifically about the linebackers how he did
Speaker 3: not want to call any of them out, so he
Speaker 3: turned it into let me just tell you about the
Speaker 3: three people that did play well, and it was like
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence, Malik Hooker and Ron Bland and like after
Speaker 3: I tweet that there's so many people they're throwing Hooker
Speaker 3: under the bus for that for that big play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really well, Os has been balling all year. Guy's
Speaker 4: been doing a great job of getting penetration. D Law
Speaker 4: obviously had a good job, did a good job of
Speaker 4: getting back there. Goldston when he got back there, he
Speaker 4: was doing a great job as well. Big Hankins is
Speaker 4: Big Hankins. It's just guys are just like you to
Speaker 4: your point. You know, I showed this on the film
Speaker 4: room last week. Guys just getting there getting washed, and
Speaker 4: Arizona does a good job of that. When you wash,
Speaker 4: When even if one man has bad gap discipline and
Speaker 4: you can get him boom turned and that defensive end
Speaker 4: stale staying out there, you have two gaps of openness,
Speaker 4: so big runs are going to happen, especially if your
Speaker 4: second level is taking Bad England.
Speaker 3: So who else are going to be major problems then?
Speaker 3: Going forward?
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean overg just over. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to look past the next couple of weeks. But I
Speaker 4: think New England run wise, I'm not threatened by them
Speaker 4: run wise. Will they be persistent, Yes, they are very
Speaker 4: persistent and bullheaded, and if they have a even an
Speaker 4: inch that they can take, they're going to take it.
Speaker 4: But I think they want to throw the ball the
Speaker 4: tight ends is where you need to have your attention
Speaker 4: at this week. And who's going to be guarding those guys?
Speaker 4: But San Francisco. Yeah, San Francisco is going to run
Speaker 4: the ball forty times at Dallas. They don't care. They
Speaker 4: do not care.
Speaker 5: Man, the way Philly ran the ball last night, they
Speaker 5: looked really good. The only thing that I think could
Speaker 5: get in Philly's way is they've forced the pass way
Speaker 5: too much, like when they don't even need to.
Speaker 4: They haven't got office coordinator, they haven't gotten sync yet.
Speaker 5: It's wild, but like there were times that they shouldn't
Speaker 5: have even been throwing in a situation and they were
Speaker 5: just forcing things down.
Speaker 1: Like they were trying to prove to themselves that they
Speaker 1: can't throw exactly.
Speaker 2: We've got it in the bag. It's happening.
Speaker 4: But it didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it looked strange at times. Put their running game
Speaker 5: really really good, DeAndre, so.
Speaker 2: They can run.
Speaker 6: He's their guy. He's their guy.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, great questions all the way across the
Speaker 1: job today. I thought all three callers were fantastic, Gary, Bob, Brian.
Speaker 2: Our text line was blowing up.
Speaker 1: We didn't even get close to all the text Thanks
Speaker 1: for the engagement.
Speaker 4: We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Every talking Tuesday. We're taking the phone calls, we're taking
Speaker 1: the text messages. May even sprinkle in a couple tomorrow,
Speaker 1: but we have got the defensive preview tomorrow. What is
Speaker 1: the defense gonna sprinkle some more into what does the
Speaker 1: defense look like in a rebound effort against Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: and the New England.
Speaker 2: Patriots Zeki's back.
Speaker 1: I asked Os Digizua last night on the Cowboys Hour.
Speaker 1: I was like, have you thought about hitting Zeke yet?
Speaker 2: And he goes, actually I have. So they're already starting
Speaker 2: to get into it. Really excited to talk about that
Speaker 2: defensive preview.
Speaker 1: Plus, we're gonna have John's National Storylines segment the debut
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