Speaker 1: It's good to have you back here.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to be back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm going to wait and see if it's
Speaker 3: good to happen bout here. I And it's nothing personal. No,
Speaker 3: I don't like to assume look as a person, it's
Speaker 3: nice to see you for the show, which is a
Speaker 3: professional venture. I mean, I'm at work right now. You
Speaker 3: never need a job. I don't want to just say, oh,
Speaker 3: pressure's off, it's good just to have you here. You
Speaker 3: know you said okay.
Speaker 2: If I also don't make an assumption about whether I'm
Speaker 2: having a good time.
Speaker 1: I'm sharing how I feel right now. Yeah, like and
Speaker 1: that objectively. I can't do it myself and say it is.
Speaker 1: Part of that is like we are doing well on
Speaker 1: the show right now, so I'm in a position where
Speaker 1: I have a lot to show. I'm feeling positively where
Speaker 1: it shows at Lately, we try to be modest about this.
Speaker 1: I think, like we I don't talk about that much.
Speaker 1: I can feel myself wanting to like make it like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, like this is a podcast
Speaker 1: or whatever, to like make to not make other people
Speaker 1: feel small.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, humility is not always a virtue in this business.
Speaker 3: And you do kind of have to be your own
Speaker 3: PR team sometimes and.
Speaker 1: Maybe by telling our story, saying exactly where we're at,
Speaker 1: we can help people feel I would love to hear it.
Speaker 3: I would say, should we go some of the recent guests? Sure,
Speaker 3: So let's see. Let me look at the you.
Speaker 1: Don't remember there, literally our first time walking into the studio, Gili,
Speaker 1: literally our first time walking in the studio. Bill Macy's
Speaker 1: here waiting.
Speaker 3: Wow, No, Bill Macy, Rizamed was just here. Croll never
Speaker 3: heard of uh, check Strong in here. Uh. We got
Speaker 3: the men in black. We got these I don't know,
Speaker 3: but they seem to have a following, uh, Sir Sherman SNL.
Speaker 3: So wow, it's been kind of a murder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been wild.
Speaker 2: Are you guys enjoying yourselves? Aside from the money stuff.
Speaker 3: Some of the episodes have been pretty fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them.
Speaker 3: Some of them have been a good time. Yeah. And
Speaker 3: even when uh, it doesn't go well, I think that
Speaker 3: it's always nice to reflect on later and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: here's what I learned from that, Here's what I'm going
Speaker 3: to do differently next time, and even employing it to
Speaker 3: a certain extent with with you today, Gil where he said, hey,
Speaker 3: it's so great to have you back on the show,
Speaker 3: and I said, hang on a beat, because I think
Speaker 3: we have sometimes taken the air out of the balloon
Speaker 3: for people too quickly, right right, and they haven't necessarily
Speaker 3: felt like there's no antia he had to perform. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: the pressure like, yeah, are no I.
Speaker 2: Feel And that's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't know what your show is. I'd love to
Speaker 3: hear about it. I'm excited to hear about it. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's more of a hangout show. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of those, and there are shows where you
Speaker 3: actually have to show up and fucking deliver, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's room for all kinds of shows.
Speaker 3: On the show was really good.
Speaker 2: He's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're working with him, he's working with him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he stepped up. He was doing some voices.
Speaker 2: Oh he was, Yeah, I don't do voices, so that's
Speaker 2: already a strike again.
Speaker 1: There's like so many different kinds of I can't oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeaheah, Like even even within this shows shows
Speaker 1: he did did a little voice. Yeah, Michael didn't really
Speaker 1: do one. Church didn't do one. Riz Sarah didn't do one.
Speaker 1: Rizz didn't do one m but there's so many different
Speaker 1: they did different stuff. I'm not saying they did nothing.
Speaker 3: No, I hope I do something.
Speaker 1: Sarah did nothing. Sarah did functionally did nothing.
Speaker 3: Being fair to the guests that we've had, Uh, it's
Speaker 3: a tough show to do. You don't always know how
Speaker 3: to find your way in. Sarah did not right never,
Speaker 3: you can't feed under There was no access point seemingly
Speaker 3: through which she was able to understand or participate in
Speaker 3: the show at all. In my opinion, No, it would
Speaker 3: have probably been the same show had she not arrived
Speaker 3: at the studio at all.
Speaker 1: Tried nothing. But if she had, there was sort of
Speaker 1: an agreed upon it would have been.
Speaker 3: Better because we would have been able to just the
Speaker 3: two of us, would have had an interplay where she
Speaker 3: checking in constantly of like if.
Speaker 2: You were here with the potato, it would have been
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: Potato would be amazing, Potato would be amazing for this show.
Speaker 1: We can do with just a like a potato, like
Speaker 1: make it a diver style of comedy, like we can
Speaker 1: we can.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, mister Spud or whatever we call a funny name,
Speaker 3: and then like I mean, it's already mister spud, mister spud,
Speaker 3: that was the first thought. You know, sometimes that is
Speaker 3: the best though.
Speaker 1: But you you have a show I do. Let's get
Speaker 1: let's get into that. Like I want to hear about
Speaker 1: your show. I talk about my show literally all the time.
Speaker 3: We talked about our show to start, and now it's
Speaker 3: your turn to talk about your show.
Speaker 1: And you have a show. The show is if you
Speaker 1: can make it funny, make you say it.
Speaker 2: This show is called Kevin.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's on Amazon Prime. It's about a rescue shelter and
Speaker 2: I play the manager of the rescue shelter. So it's
Speaker 2: cats and dogs. And I think what I.
Speaker 3: Thought we were talking about, this is what I thought
Speaker 3: you were talking podcast?
Speaker 1: Is that real?
Speaker 3: Kevin's our name of our producer.
Speaker 1: You were we said Kevin.
Speaker 2: To be the name you wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: No, we were not. We We do need to talk
Speaker 1: about Kevin. If if if you have a show named Kevin,
Speaker 1: then we need to talk.
Speaker 2: About If you don't, if you.
Speaker 1: Don't Gill, then now we need to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I I have a I do have a podcast, okay,
Speaker 2: just Premier. But I thought Kevin Prime have cats and dogs?
Speaker 3: Are you that you have. Okay, So then we do
Speaker 3: need to talk about You need.
Speaker 1: To back up and talk about that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've already.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm already making mistakes.
Speaker 3: I feel like you said, you said, I think you
Speaker 3: had Joe wangern On. I just read you the list
Speaker 3: of guests we'd had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was Wang on that list?
Speaker 2: I didn't hear it on that list, but I feel
Speaker 2: like I remember seeing is that?
Speaker 3: Is that not true?
Speaker 1: Not only is it not now, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't not a single one of those names could be
Speaker 1: confused with Joe Way. So now we need to talk
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he came on, he did even less than
Speaker 3: Sarah Sherman because I didn't see him. Yeah, but that's hard.
Speaker 1: To do it. But none of them came in here
Speaker 1: and fibbed. What I'm what I'm picking up from you
Speaker 1: is actually two fibbs right in a row. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Kevin Show is real, Okay, I don't think
Speaker 1: you have that show.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it is a show.
Speaker 1: And I know that the Joe wangerd episode of our
Speaker 1: show is not real.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well I thought I thought I thought about twenty
Speaker 3: fourteen or something.
Speaker 2: No, I'm I was pretty sure I saw Joe Wang.
Speaker 2: But if that's.
Speaker 3: Maybe literally, I guess you confused us with another podcast,
Speaker 3: which is hard to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that happens.
Speaker 2: Well, there is, Kevin, but I don't want to We
Speaker 2: don't have to talk about it at all.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about your podcast.
Speaker 3: I'd like to stop just before we talk about that.
Speaker 3: I'd like to talk a little bit about trust, okay, because.
Speaker 1: Literally, we don't have to do We don't have to
Speaker 1: do that because we need that is something that once
Speaker 1: it is broken, Gil.
Speaker 3: It's not like a lamp that you can just glue
Speaker 3: back together, is it. It's not like it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a little harder to reassemble trust once it has been broken.
Speaker 3: Through the trail, so then it as he's actually generously
Speaker 3: trying to launch you into the podcast, saying I don't
Speaker 3: think this Kevin show is real. I know that Joe
Speaker 3: Wanger episode is really You're going, well, Kevin is real,
Speaker 3: and it's like for what, like, what you gonna fucking win? Man?
Speaker 3: What do you get here? Now?
Speaker 2: I sound defensive.
Speaker 1: You've already gotten the listeners excited about a project, right,
Speaker 1: you got them excited about Kevin. Hell, you got me
Speaker 1: excited about.
Speaker 3: Jesus christ Man. The way you're talking about kitties and puppies.
Speaker 3: That's on TV. I was on Prime, so they didn't.
Speaker 1: I I know if it made it all the way
Speaker 1: onto the platform, it's been vetted by a cracker jack.
Speaker 3: Yes, the number of number of layers that has to
Speaker 3: go through make it my screen.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm willing to let go and say Kevin
Speaker 2: is fake, willing to like let go of that and
Speaker 2: say that's not a real show on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: And it's not just that it's not called Kevin. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have it doesn't exist kitts and puppies in it.
Speaker 1: I don't You're not in it. It's not a show.
Speaker 1: You heard us talk about Kevin the producer before.
Speaker 3: And gave you an e idea.
Speaker 2: It gave me an idea to try to boast here
Speaker 2: in this moment it could be a show.
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, if it's not real.
Speaker 1: After as you were pitching it, I thought like, do
Speaker 1: you want you as must be?
Speaker 3: It has to be because we need to talk about it.
Speaker 1: We got it.
Speaker 3: We got to talk about we need to talk about Kevin.
Speaker 3: We need to talk about Kevin. As a project for us.
Speaker 1: But now, I mean, I'm worried because I want to
Speaker 1: hear about the podcast. You don't feel like the podcast
Speaker 1: is enough. And it was just talking about, yes, we're
Speaker 1: doing well here.
Speaker 3: I think that made you just now I'm going to
Speaker 3: talk about my podcast, my piss ant podcast, when these
Speaker 3: guys are doing so amazing and financially doing I mean,
Speaker 3: we don't.
Speaker 2: Certainly don't have the guests that you guys just have,
Speaker 2: and uh.
Speaker 1: And it may bring that up and I would make
Speaker 1: other podcasts feel small when I really was just trying
Speaker 1: to make them feel inspired, right, because you will kill
Speaker 1: you will have those guests, you will have a run.
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys, though, have been now you've done this.
Speaker 2: How long have you guys been doing this podcasting?
Speaker 3: A long time?
Speaker 2: Right until you got to this point. You know.
Speaker 3: The way that I kind of look at it, uh
Speaker 3: huh is like I only ever have today when I'm
Speaker 3: doing this episode. There's only this episode, right, It doesn't
Speaker 3: matter where I've been, what I've done with.
Speaker 2: You don't see all the foul shots because from the time.
Speaker 3: To fucking whistle blows to start the podcast to the
Speaker 3: time that the.
Speaker 2: Foghorn or it seems convenient. I mean, you're not looking
Speaker 2: at all the all the stuff the.
Speaker 3: Podcast was before.
Speaker 1: No, you gotta like it's work to take every single
Speaker 1: episode that you do and just let it drift out.
Speaker 1: I see, And that's been our mindset for forty nine years.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 1: So it's like almost as long as I've been doing
Speaker 1: the show. A little longer than that. That's been our mindset, right,
Speaker 1: forty nine years.
Speaker 3: At first we were hanging on to stuff, but then
Speaker 3: we have understated it. If we want to really have
Speaker 3: staying power in.
Speaker 1: This fourteen years we were we were kind of hanging on.
Speaker 3: What we got to say is and what we've been
Speaker 3: saying is, how long have you been doing the podcast?
Speaker 3: One episode? How long are you been doing it? Eleven minutes?
Speaker 3: That's as long as I've been doing it, because every
Speaker 3: episode I have to feel like that.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 2: For eleven minutes. Yes, incredible, Yeah, yeah, the podcast.
Speaker 3: You've got one, I've got one that's interesting. I wonder
Speaker 3: where you got that idea? Got admit it's a little
Speaker 3: bit similar to what it is.
Speaker 1: It is, And sometimes I feel like we say that episodes,
Speaker 1: we say like, where'd you get that idea. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I am not allowed to remember what we've done on
Speaker 1: other shows, right, So if you hear us doing something again,
Speaker 1: we're still going to have a podcast. And we say
Speaker 1: where they got that idea? Probably from us. I don't
Speaker 1: know that we did that.
Speaker 3: They've done that joke. I go news to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, show tell me, tell me more about it.
Speaker 3: Well yes, well, yeah, the joke itself doesn't work in
Speaker 3: a way because when I say, wonder where you got
Speaker 3: that idea? What am I even preferring to? Yeah, because
Speaker 3: I've never had a podcast, because you don't know how
Speaker 3: I don't know about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you only know about this one. I was just.
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Did I get the idea from you? Or have you
Speaker 2: not had a podcast?
Speaker 1: Well, which is probably yeah, we've had this episode, so
Speaker 1: yours was before?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yours is older because you've done.
Speaker 2: Understand I'm very confused. Okay, Well, I guess I got
Speaker 2: it before. I maybe I travel through time somehow and.
Speaker 1: Obvious episode would take time to develop, like we'd have
Speaker 1: to like kid and stuff like that, or maybe in
Speaker 1: the time between when we decide to book you for
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 3: I heard your own that's interesting. That's interesting like that.
Speaker 1: It does make sense. Yeah, it does make sense.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it actually works, Yeah it works. I stole it.
Speaker 2: I did steal it from Okay, I did steal it.
Speaker 3: From And what made you decide to steal it? Well,
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: I just saw it so successful. And yes, the show,
Speaker 2: the podcast is called Good Science. I host it with
Speaker 2: uh Anthony Tammanik. When does it? It airs on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2: It comes out every Tuesday, Tuesday. When when does yours?
Speaker 1: We don't know, you know, you know, you've never done it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just have one, no one that's coming out.
Speaker 3: When this one's coming out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the time it does, we won't know
Speaker 1: about it anymore.
Speaker 3: It's almost like fifty first dates. Hating the sound of
Speaker 3: Tuesday though, as Yeah, yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not Monday, you know, right, but it's still
Speaker 1: like still like to make.
Speaker 3: An impact on the week.
Speaker 2: It's the beginning of the week. Yeah, yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: the first thing in the week.
Speaker 3: You don't want that. Monday is a little bit thirsty,
Speaker 3: ain't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's a little Garfield.
Speaker 3: No, No it's not. No, I mean Garfield would not
Speaker 3: I want to release his podcast on a Monday. He's
Speaker 3: barely surviving on Monday.
Speaker 1: But if it's coming out for him on Tuesday, then
Speaker 1: he might have to record it on Monday when you're
Speaker 1: not going to get the best product out of him.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, if it's releasing on Monday, if
Speaker 1: nothing else you know on Monday, that could be Garfields.
Speaker 2: When is Garfield recording?
Speaker 3: So I guess your joke of it's a little Garfield
Speaker 3: could work. Thank you that Monday would be a decent
Speaker 3: release date for him. It's the only way to en
Speaker 3: that you keep coming around with Joe like that, you
Speaker 3: keep coming around. I don't know, you know, learning have
Speaker 3: either winning or learning?
Speaker 1: And what are you guys up to?
Speaker 3: What the podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony plays r f K Junior and I play
Speaker 2: an unfiltered comedian named Kyle Quim and we talk about
Speaker 2: it's like as if the podcast was released from the
Speaker 2: desk of the health secretary. So it's like bad or misinformation,
Speaker 2: disinformation health stuff.
Speaker 1: That's funny, that's so crazy crazy. I thought you I
Speaker 1: thought I thought you said this is so stupid. I
Speaker 1: honestly thought you just said that it was a show
Speaker 1: where you're playing or Anthony is playing r F K Junior. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's correct, and that it's like bad stuff from the
Speaker 1: health secretary and misinformation yes from him.
Speaker 2: Yes, but what is it? What do you mean what's
Speaker 2: it called?
Speaker 1: But what is the show? Really?
Speaker 3: That is the show?
Speaker 2: That is the show?
Speaker 1: That is the show?
Speaker 2: Yes? Why is that?
Speaker 3: Is that not good?
Speaker 2: Do you guys have a ship?
Speaker 1: Did you know this?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I mean, as I've said, Oh, I didn't even know
Speaker 3: we were recording today.
Speaker 2: But I don't like how quiet you're getting.
Speaker 3: It scaring me give us a second. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: didn't know that.
Speaker 1: We cannot have this in here. Yeah, we cannot be
Speaker 1: having any of the like I just laid out to
Speaker 1: you what we're building here right well, the guests that
Speaker 1: we've had on like the kind of people that we
Speaker 1: have in this studio. You are talking about someone with
Speaker 1: a direct line to the President of the United States.
Speaker 3: Do you realize that, I mean, yes.
Speaker 1: And talking about him and doing making fun of me
Speaker 1: bad misinformation in and making fun of style.
Speaker 2: Are you guys? Uh? Do you guys agree with what
Speaker 2: he says?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know who has said what.
Speaker 3: I don't know who said anything. I've only been alive
Speaker 3: for seventeen minutes. Basically I didn't exist before this timer started.
Speaker 2: Sure, do you go when the podcast ends?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not the guy to ask. It's like sort
Speaker 3: of like I met the person to answer that question.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: Either Sean and I being dead outside of the confines
Speaker 1: of this episode.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, keeps us alive?
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying? I think so if
Speaker 1: we knew go out into the world, taking in no information,
Speaker 1: putting out no information, just moving through.
Speaker 3: As if what we didn't exist.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't want to, Okay, And
Speaker 1: so when you bring in here into this space where
Speaker 1: we are building, something I told you Bill Macy was
Speaker 1: that we did an episode with him. Yeah, and congrats
Speaker 1: by the way, again, I mean thank you, But like
Speaker 1: I'm worried about that now. I'm worried about that episode
Speaker 1: getting pulled.
Speaker 3: That's scary to me because I go, oh, great, So
Speaker 3: now the Bill Macy episode has been shadow band on
Speaker 3: all platforms, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: One day call, one call and this is gone. All
Speaker 1: this is gone.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you think, Rob.
Speaker 1: Finally finally we have something going here.
Speaker 2: Do you think Ka would care about what's going on
Speaker 2: about his like his about an episode with Bill Macy.
Speaker 1: His entire life's work being like throwing a fucking garbage.
Speaker 2: And asked to you know, I think he's I just
Speaker 2: feel like for a show, and that.
Speaker 3: Made it just a making.
Speaker 2: How do you know that if you if you.
Speaker 3: Just were born, I'm occupying his mental space. Okay, you
Speaker 3: know I'm not me. I'm going yeah, I'm dropping into
Speaker 3: r f K for a minute, the same way you
Speaker 3: do on the show, because I'm not making fun of him,
Speaker 3: actually trying to understand him and saying, well, what would
Speaker 3: he be thinking? Probably, uh, that's not very nice. And
Speaker 3: so what you basically have said to me today, Gil,
Speaker 3: if I could paraphrase, is you said, Hi, guys, nice
Speaker 3: rocket ship. Mind if I get on with a goddamn
Speaker 3: fucking stick of dynamite and just explode the entire.
Speaker 1: Thing early the day of the idea, you guys are
Speaker 1: going public.
Speaker 3: Yes, the plan was always to go public. Wow, to be.
Speaker 1: The second trillion dollar it was.
Speaker 3: Gilts here, Let's let him talk about his show. It
Speaker 3: won't be anything damaging. I'm sure. Then will announce the
Speaker 3: IPO and he'll be here for the popping of Champ
Speaker 3: Wayne did you this probably around minute nine?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you.
Speaker 2: Did think of it during this podcast, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But that was always the plan.
Speaker 2: That was always Well, I apologize. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: ruin anything you like you're.
Speaker 1: Doing apology to it's too RFK. It's him, So he
Speaker 1: is not mad at us, but instead happy with us,
Speaker 1: because like I said, he has a direct line to
Speaker 1: the president. He can call and say something. Actually, I
Speaker 1: have a.
Speaker 3: Feeling you also. I have a feeling you also an
Speaker 3: apology to both Colin Quinn and Kyle Kanaane because I
Speaker 3: feel like when you tell me about this, uh you're
Speaker 3: playing that, you go, well, this is a completely fictional character.
Speaker 3: There's no it's just a name. It's not it's not
Speaker 3: based on them. No, but Gil, you're telling me that
Speaker 3: you just came up with these unfiltered comedians with this
Speaker 3: fake name, and that you're not borrowing at all.
Speaker 2: I didn't say I wasn't borrowing at all. But those
Speaker 2: two definitely not.
Speaker 1: Who is it? Then? No? Is it one person?
Speaker 2: It's an amalgamation of sweeties.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe two Max maybe maybe maybe not those two.
Speaker 3: It's not them. It's not them.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not you guys. You know.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but if you want.
Speaker 2: As a third fib, I can say that that podcast
Speaker 2: doesn't exist, So maybe Bobby won't be upset.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's lucky for us, that's lucky for that. That's
Speaker 3: what you want me to do. You want me to
Speaker 3: go down one small issue with it, and it's an
Speaker 3: issue of true us. Which, yeah, once that's broken. Gil,
Speaker 3: it's not a lamp, you know, it's definitely not a lamp.
Speaker 3: It's not a lamb.
Speaker 2: Well, how do I repair this? How do I get on?
Speaker 2: I want to make I don't want to ruin your streams.
Speaker 3: It's not with more words I think.
Speaker 2: I mean no, I feel like I can't. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to dig out, but I feel like i'm you know.
Speaker 1: I I see a path here, uh and it goes
Speaker 1: right through and right over Tony.
Speaker 2: M What would you like me to What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Getting rid of him?
Speaker 1: I think you need to say the truth about Tony.
Speaker 1: What he's about, hink effective is k.
Speaker 3: I do think we need to kill Tony?
Speaker 1: His dominion over you? What he I don't like that
Speaker 1: for you? What he subjects you to? Your creative dynamic.
Speaker 2: To throw him under the bus.
Speaker 1: Kill.
Speaker 3: This isn't you. This being mean to the President's friend.
Speaker 3: That's not you A long time. Yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 3: I try to be as sweet as possible. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: You stayed on my country brought over State of Play
Speaker 3: on DVD.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 3: I mean you were like, let's watch State of Plant.
Speaker 2: That's right, right, you're two beautiful cats.
Speaker 3: I mean that was they're dead.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's me digging a hole again. I apologize
Speaker 2: for bringing that up.
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm not aware of that during this recording.
Speaker 2: To me, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It's just another example of something that you loved at
Speaker 1: one point. Well, okay, you can kill kill your darlings.
Speaker 1: I will do that for you. If you guys want, Tony,
Speaker 1: can I talk to camera? Yeah? Maybe talk to uh
Speaker 1: so if it's helpful, Like, sure, talk to talk to
Speaker 1: this gentleman here. Okay, do you know who Tony A.
Speaker 1: Taminik is? Not before this episode? Okay, not before this episode? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is like, this is someone.
Speaker 2: Who can really like embody.
Speaker 3: He's like me, yeah, yeah, just born yeah, before this episode.
Speaker 3: I know anything about any of these people.
Speaker 2: So weird that you knew my name when I came
Speaker 2: in here.
Speaker 3: Someone told us.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, someone told us right before.
Speaker 2: You want right here, I go, Tony. I don't think
Speaker 2: what you're doing is right.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Oh no, this is not This is not
Speaker 1: the device that I'm saying. You are speed to our audience.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The proxy's sitting right here, okay, and telling the truth
Speaker 1: about Tony and his dominion over you.
Speaker 2: Okay, everyone out there. Tony has control over me. He
Speaker 2: forces me to do things I don't want to do.
Speaker 1: Smell different stuff.
Speaker 2: Smell different things, taste different things, touch different things.
Speaker 3: He's done it for a while now.
Speaker 2: It's sort of a grooming thing, kissing, kissing things, touching, kissing, tasting, licking,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to do it anymore, and he
Speaker 2: forces me to do it so that he can criticize
Speaker 2: the establishment.
Speaker 3: Not allowed to wear shoes around it.
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to wear shoes around the house. I
Speaker 2: have to go barefoot because he likes to see my feet.
Speaker 2: He makes me cook for him with my crackout. He
Speaker 2: makes me why would you the first time you've been alive?
Speaker 1: But some stuff you can stick up on? But yeah,
Speaker 1: you can yeah, that part.
Speaker 2: He likes to see a little. He likes to see
Speaker 2: the start of something, you know what I mean, just
Speaker 2: a little bit, just a little bit, not the whole thing. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then I uh, I feel like I don't want
Speaker 2: to say these things about.
Speaker 1: What does he like to eat? Was he like the
Speaker 1: cooking form.
Speaker 2: With bacon, pogis and bacon? He likes Ukrainian and he.
Speaker 1: Likes even stop.
Speaker 3: What's that? Even stopped clocks right twice to day. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna fault the guy's dietary. It sounds like a
Speaker 3: pretty yeah.
Speaker 1: And the Ukrainian thing is like, what's that about? Like
Speaker 1: it's a comment on something like what's the deal?
Speaker 2: I think he just likes parogis. Oh maybe you think
Speaker 2: it's a comment might be political?
Speaker 1: I mean, knowing this guy, I mean yeah, everything seems
Speaker 1: to be political with this.
Speaker 2: Are you guys aware of what's happening over there?
Speaker 3: Because I know you were.
Speaker 2: Just you just.
Speaker 3: Well. It is around the time in the podcast where
Speaker 3: I do have a hard reset, around minute twenty eight,
Speaker 3: I forget what the first fourteen minutes of the podcast,
Speaker 3: where I do I do maintain some knowledge from the
Speaker 3: middle chunk whatever yeah, whatever you feel is right or
Speaker 3: just you know, it's a I don't go through a
Speaker 3: selection process. You got like things get filtered out, somethings
Speaker 3: stay something.
Speaker 2: I wish I could do this. I mean I wish
Speaker 2: I could have this soul's work.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you don't.
Speaker 3: It is a curse, Gilly. Does it make for a
Speaker 3: good podcast? Numbers don't lie. Yeah, it's pretty good, you know.
Speaker 1: But then when you do one that's really special, when
Speaker 1: you get that episode, Oh, please, can I just have
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 3: Please? This one? Just this one?
Speaker 2: Does it?
Speaker 3: Ever?
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that you really have to can
Speaker 1: I ask what you're giving up? Push under the surface
Speaker 1: of the water.
Speaker 2: What are you giving up? When is it bad? When
Speaker 2: does it hurt you? Well?
Speaker 1: I did that. Yeah, that was sort of the last
Speaker 1: idea that I was laying out that, like, when you
Speaker 1: have a really special episode, it's kind of an answer
Speaker 1: to the question like we're giving up, right, You're giving
Speaker 1: up like a memory that's like positive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you were saying you interrupted him and said,
Speaker 3: that's when it's worth it. But what he was saying
Speaker 3: was like, that's actually the hardest part.
Speaker 1: Of the hardest part. Those are the ones that you
Speaker 1: really have to learn.
Speaker 3: I guess it's worth it. No, I was confused.
Speaker 1: I was listening how I guess I'm wondering now because
Speaker 1: it was just saying, like you it's a good thing
Speaker 1: that you have to separate yourself from and you thought
Speaker 1: that was good.
Speaker 2: No, I I just I was confused. I thought you
Speaker 2: were talking about that it's it's all worth Like what
Speaker 2: you're giving up is like that.
Speaker 1: I think we have to put this on Tony as well.
Speaker 1: Somehow that you've even part of, just like a social
Speaker 1: experiment where like, yeah, everything is inverted.
Speaker 3: He has he has somehow your mind.
Speaker 2: So that you are unable to take I don't know
Speaker 2: what's happening. I feel like I'm babbling and lying, which.
Speaker 3: Is a challenge for us because obviously we often work
Speaker 3: with guests. We told you how good Nick did on
Speaker 3: the show, with a lot of people who they do
Speaker 3: know what's happening. I could try doing a voice like Nick.
Speaker 3: I'm worried that the voice would be offensive to someone
Speaker 3: very powerful based on the history you.
Speaker 2: Have of the Bobby thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, and that will like we'll figure out
Speaker 1: who the comedian is that you have it out for
Speaker 1: for some reason in this business. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: the business is not doing amazing right now. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think an attitude is.
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm piling on?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's pretty.
Speaker 3: History is in a state of attraction, and I'm not
Speaker 3: necessarily someone who's going to kick the town while it's down.
Speaker 1: A circular squad, let's attack it. It seems like a
Speaker 1: good idea to you, circular firing squad, but it's actually
Speaker 1: a great way to get your fucking head blown off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they all have it's a squad like they also
Speaker 1: have gone.
Speaker 2: Are you warning? Are you telling me to be careful?
Speaker 1: I'm literally describing a circular firing squad where everyone is
Speaker 1: standing in a circle and they're firing into the circle.
Speaker 1: Sounds kind of fun for just.
Speaker 3: You, of course, it sounds fun when I first started,
Speaker 3: but it's incredibly dangerous. Is there another way to explain
Speaker 3: it to him?
Speaker 1: And now you know, like that's your the person that.
Speaker 2: You're trying, No, it's not. It's definitely not. David Town Okay,
Speaker 2: love Dave so funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, now it's narrowed down to like such.
Speaker 3: And now whenever we find out who it is. It's like,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's not just definitely, it's not just maybe.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 1: Like yes, like he's going.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's only three. There's plenty of more comedians
Speaker 2: out there, but I mean, can you.
Speaker 1: Get It's like I wouldn't say there's we're in a
Speaker 1: plenty I mean situation.
Speaker 2: Contract, someone who's like under you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: can you name anyone who's.
Speaker 1: Like okay, so now these guys are washed up?
Speaker 3: They are?
Speaker 1: It's old, I just.
Speaker 3: Washed up hats you know when you see an old soldier.
Speaker 3: I never said he's old for a reason.
Speaker 2: He's experienced.
Speaker 3: I just he's a survivor. Who do you guys like?
Speaker 2: Who do you guys like to.
Speaker 3: Listen to me? Personally?
Speaker 1: Nice? They don't know? Nice thing about forgetting every episode
Speaker 1: of your podcast? Yes, and as it's over is you
Speaker 1: can listen to it.
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of this show and I can't
Speaker 3: wait to hear this episode. Yeah, because this is going
Speaker 3: to be really able.
Speaker 2: To experience the episode outside. Do you know what's happening
Speaker 2: on the outside of this podcast? Do you have any
Speaker 2: memories of it at all?
Speaker 3: Rips and drabs, drops and drabs like a ray of light,
Speaker 3: a flower pedal.
Speaker 2: Just see like images will flash.
Speaker 3: Syrup on a Fresh Everything bagel.
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's weird. Syrup on in everything bagel?
Speaker 1: Fresh everything bagel?
Speaker 2: You know I did make that's why would you put
Speaker 2: syrup on? Why do you think you're Audi is putting
Speaker 2: syrup on in everything bagel?
Speaker 3: And for the listeners who are just are hearing this,
Speaker 3: I'm pointing a gill like, what the fuck is this
Speaker 3: guy talking about?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: He doesn't have an answer, and Hayes looking back at
Speaker 3: me and he's going, your guess is as good as mine,
Speaker 3: O bray. So.
Speaker 1: So I mean Sean writes for Severance. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this about.
Speaker 3: I did Sean?
Speaker 1: I did, but I was trying to relate the mindset, yeah,
Speaker 1: of not knowing what's happening in or outside the room
Speaker 1: that you're in also applies to Severans, right, so he
Speaker 1: doesn't know about that right now?
Speaker 3: Oh okay?
Speaker 1: So when you say what do you say? Audi?
Speaker 3: He does why?
Speaker 1: He does that little gesture at you saying he's like
Speaker 1: this guy on and can I have some?
Speaker 2: You know, right, I'm not on anything. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: things that he doesn't know about me. I apologize because
Speaker 2: now where do you think I came from?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? What I hate to answer? A
Speaker 3: question was a question?
Speaker 2: What's outside that door?
Speaker 3: This one? Another door, another door, Open it.
Speaker 1: Up, check it out?
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's just for sound. That's not like, that's
Speaker 2: not like some Alice in Wonderland freaky ship that you're doing.
Speaker 2: That's just you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's just for sound.
Speaker 1: That's for sound. Do you think, yeah, that's two doors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're in a recording booth studio.
Speaker 1: They all have two doors, a lot of them do. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know about episode I.
Speaker 3: We honestly learned something new episode every episode we try to.
Speaker 3: We try to. It depends. It depends on whether the
Speaker 3: guest is acting in good faith, because it's very difficult
Speaker 3: to learn when you are being given a bunch of misinformation. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't trust me, as you've accused our FK of delivering,
Speaker 3: And yet there's the stench of hypocrisy fills the room.
Speaker 1: And so the case you're making is that your creative collaborators,
Speaker 1: like so called great crime, is that he likes you
Speaker 1: to occasionally make parogi's and bacon, not not a not
Speaker 1: like a not an elaborate for him.
Speaker 3: That's not that demanding. Are they frozen or are you
Speaker 3: making the dough and all that from.
Speaker 2: And they're frozen? Everything's frozen. I mean it's one pan's
Speaker 2: not a lot, I guess, But he does other I
Speaker 2: said the crack thing showing.
Speaker 1: A little bit of crack, and how he went to an.
Speaker 2: Office and say, show me a little bit of crack.
Speaker 3: It sound like you're in an office. Sounds like you're
Speaker 3: in his house. My rides here.
Speaker 1: How is he negotiating like like more or less? Like
Speaker 1: how do you like pull it up and pull it down?
Speaker 2: It a peak?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: So he wants to see a peak?
Speaker 1: Okay? And so is he pulling it down? Or you
Speaker 1: then know what that means?
Speaker 3: I know what it means at this point, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think you might actually be misunderstanding.
Speaker 2: Why where are you getting that? I misunder What am
Speaker 2: I misunderstanding?
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like you have just assumed that
Speaker 1: that means that he wants to see a little more
Speaker 1: of your butt crack.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like I don't think so many If
Speaker 3: I heard that.
Speaker 1: If I heard that, I would like reach back and
Speaker 1: like shortstop.
Speaker 3: If I said to heyes, gimme peak, and he took
Speaker 3: an and showed me some of his butt crack, I
Speaker 3: would be like, okay, never mind, So he would never
Speaker 3: find out what I meant at that point going to engage.
Speaker 2: What could it possibly mean to say, show me a peek?
Speaker 3: Well, any more contents? I need more context.
Speaker 1: The present, the present I give to him after the show.
Speaker 3: Well, he's not saying, don't let me peak, let me
Speaker 3: feel how heavy the box is? Eh? And then he's
Speaker 3: you know, you.
Speaker 1: Want to at the present.
Speaker 2: You think I'm the one instigating showing crack the way
Speaker 2: you've described it, you are.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're literally the.
Speaker 2: Do it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean the crack is the present?
Speaker 3: Well, no, wonder he's being so destructive on the show.
Speaker 3: He's acting out. I guess the guy is screaming for
Speaker 3: some kind of show of love.
Speaker 1: When do you give him a present?
Speaker 2: That is the present?
Speaker 1: You showing a little bit of your butt crack is
Speaker 1: the president? My god?
Speaker 3: Oh my, you know my crack is good enough present?
Speaker 3: Anything else?
Speaker 1: It's a tiny bit, is pretty your poor wife?
Speaker 3: That's the present?
Speaker 1: Back there?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, I I all right, you know what.
Speaker 2: I am willing to concede that it's not a great present,
Speaker 2: and I apologize. Maybe it is me giving off bad
Speaker 2: vibes to Tony.
Speaker 3: Have I explained trust yet? In this episode? We're gonna
Speaker 3: need to go over this. Do you have another reset? Gil?
Speaker 3: Trust wants broken. It's not right. I can't just glue
Speaker 3: it back together, you know, screw a new light bulb
Speaker 3: into it. It's gonna take a lot more work.
Speaker 2: Which part of the lamp are you imagining is broken?
Speaker 1: The light bulb and the other part that you could
Speaker 1: glue together it's a new light bulb. Yeah, so the
Speaker 1: base the light bulb broke, but the light bulb back together.
Speaker 1: The base is intact, and it's been broken before, so
Speaker 1: it breaks on the kind of the same one every time.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, and it's.
Speaker 3: Nobody's fault, you know what I mean? No need to
Speaker 3: play the blame game here. Lamps break sometimes. Trust is
Speaker 3: a little different. It's a little different than the lamp.
Speaker 3: How do you repair I don't always break in the
Speaker 3: same place, and there's no light bulb in it. Sure
Speaker 3: mm hmmm. Although light bulb can represent an idea, sometimes
Speaker 3: you can Yeah, And trust is an I. Well, the
Speaker 3: podcast was called Good Science. Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, anything, I'm an open book?
Speaker 2: What does a lamp look like?
Speaker 3: You're talking to me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So he did say that he did ask if
Speaker 1: he could ask you a question before, right before he
Speaker 1: said the question, you hear thee and you did agree
Speaker 1: to answer the question. So here's let me make this clear.
Speaker 1: The question he just asked, was a lamp looked like?
Speaker 1: That was the question that he was asking you if
Speaker 1: he could ask no. No, he said, so when you
Speaker 1: said yes.
Speaker 3: I believe I said I'm gonna open book.
Speaker 1: So that to me it sounds like a yes. But
Speaker 1: you it sounds like we're not responding to him asking
Speaker 1: ask you a question.
Speaker 3: I don't even know you would just listen to him.
Speaker 1: He never actually spot.
Speaker 3: He he just mentioning that I'm an open book.
Speaker 1: He was sharing something with you.
Speaker 3: Seems relevant.
Speaker 2: We're on a podcast, Sean, What does a lamp look like?
Speaker 1: May also help to ask what he thinks an open
Speaker 1: book looks like?
Speaker 3: What is an open book?
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't, to him, necessarily mean something that provides
Speaker 1: information freely?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Well, a lamp could look like just about anything.
Speaker 3: Couldn't it sure be specific? I mean, I guess, gil,
Speaker 3: what does a lamp look like? You're just throwing it
Speaker 3: back at me. No, fair's fair. What's good for the
Speaker 3: goose is good for the gander. I mean here I am.
Speaker 3: I said I couldn't look like.
Speaker 1: I'm honestly on at this point that this is your
Speaker 1: podcasting style as you just like laid on a question,
Speaker 1: and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's what podcasting is.
Speaker 3: It's questions and answers. What does can you tell me
Speaker 3: what a lamp looks like.
Speaker 1: A woman's leg?
Speaker 2: Okay, there are lamps that look like a woman's leg
Speaker 2: in some like eighties movies like The Stockings.
Speaker 3: That's so, that's okay. A heavy rest, I've never seen
Speaker 3: that before.
Speaker 2: A heavy breast, what does that? What does that even mean?
Speaker 2: What is a heavy breast?
Speaker 3: What I mean?
Speaker 1: For? I feel even more sorry for your wife?
Speaker 2: How heavy are you talking?
Speaker 1: Mmm?
Speaker 3: I'm at the butcher shop. I'm going, uh for four people.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: People of wait, what cut?
Speaker 3: What cut? I'm getting trick or breasts.
Speaker 2: For four people?
Speaker 3: So like, okay, fine, I guess sure that's not allowed.
Speaker 2: You know it's allowed.
Speaker 3: You tell me there's something bad in it because you're
Speaker 3: a RFK.
Speaker 1: Do we think Kyle could live on his own on
Speaker 1: a show somewhere? Is there a Kyle vehicle?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe on one seat?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: On the podcast, part of the lore is that Kyle
Speaker 2: has a pot his own podcast called Shitheads.
Speaker 1: Do we just do that podcast and make your podcast
Speaker 1: be the lore? And so now he's on?
Speaker 3: You think I just came up make that the real podcast?
Speaker 3: That's the podcast?
Speaker 2: Please, I don't think I'm confused.
Speaker 3: Again, explain it to me.
Speaker 1: You said that you have a real podcast and then
Speaker 1: one that's just Kyle. That's lore. I'm saying, let's make
Speaker 1: the just Kyle podcast the real actual cast.
Speaker 2: And oh so no, Bobby, no, Bobby, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It becomes lore.
Speaker 3: Doesn't that that could be his lore?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Just to say it. I think a lamp could also
Speaker 3: look like buttocks are a penis.
Speaker 2: So just any I don't know. First of all, it
Speaker 2: could look like anything. Sure, you're right technically, but I
Speaker 2: wanted to know what like a standard lamp is and
Speaker 2: you're just that, No, you're just like.
Speaker 1: NA like to show off. Then that's what I got
Speaker 1: the idea. Yes, now, supply goes up, so demand goes down.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If every lamp looks like
Speaker 1: a buttox, then like, what do you have to offer?
Speaker 2: I guess nothing. You know that's your I guess nothing. No,
Speaker 2: I your present.
Speaker 1: You give your present? People like, oh thanks, like they.
Speaker 2: I've already seen they have that already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have that already.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I could talk to Tony and tell him, hey, uh,
Speaker 2: it's not going to work out.
Speaker 1: Not my business. What you tell him that.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be a part of that conversation.
Speaker 3: I am going to be a part of participating financially
Speaker 3: in the Kyle Show, which I think could actually be
Speaker 3: a nice little piece of business podcast.
Speaker 2: What are you willing to What are we talking about here?
Speaker 3: How much I'm willing to let you walk out of
Speaker 3: here with both your lists by