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Speaker 1: that Good morning, guys. Are we doing there? The calling

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Speaker 1: out pods? Get your pods pods short for podcast? No, No No,

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Speaker 1: But who watched the USFL this weekend. Anybody I did

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Speaker 1: highlight clip Birmingham Stallions over the New Jersey Generals. That's

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Speaker 1: your club, Birmingham, right off the field. Right. How about

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Speaker 1: the technology that the television broadcast using drones all over

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Speaker 1: they thought this was novel. They had the coaches and

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Speaker 1: is going to grow in the NFL. And obviously it

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Speaker 1: still hasn't, you know over here and the USFL is

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Speaker 1: interweb thing, the NFL the Internet. Oh yeah, he'll never

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Speaker 1: never do that. Well, it was really of course this

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Speaker 1: talking about what's going on here. The interesting part was

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Speaker 1: second week of phase one of the off season program.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for the draft now. I was not ready

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