WEBVTT - Da'Vine Joy Randolph of Shadow Force

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy di Dario. I hope that you are in the

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<v Speaker 1>mood to feed your soul today, because my guest came

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<v Speaker 1>into the studio. She sprinkled her joy and wisdom all

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<v Speaker 1>over that room, and she left me feeling like I

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<v Speaker 1>was ready to take on the world. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of the one and only Academy Award winning actress

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<v Speaker 1>Davine Joy Randolph. You may have caught one of her

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring speeches during the award circuit for her film The Holdovers,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just, oh my god, it's such a gorgeous movie,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie that she won the Oscar for. But to

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<v Speaker 1>sit across from this woman and to look into her

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and to listen to her speak, it's probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most soul shaking experiences I have had on

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<v Speaker 1>my show. And now I am just so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>share this conversation with you. I don't want to delay

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<v Speaker 1>this a second more. We just have to get to it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's see if today we can get Davine to

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<v Speaker 1>say something that she has never said before. Dave I

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<v Speaker 1>Joy Randolph, how are you, my friend? I'm good I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy to be hanging out with you today. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling good?

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<v Speaker 2>I am. Today is a gorgeous day in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not from New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Philadelphia, but I lived here in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the days you dream of.

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast girl. I'm from Jersey, so when I meet

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow East Coaster, I already know I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What part of Jersey? Are you? Philly Jersey or

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<v Speaker 2>New York.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm more New York Jersey, more Central Jersey. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know I go to the Jersey Shore, which isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that far from Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I have respect, I respect.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent some days in Philly in my in my time,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're not going to talk about, but I've had

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<v Speaker 1>some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I already know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you do.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you feeling in the blinks. I'm aware you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen me.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen me, uh huh, I certainly did.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so happy you're here. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>were one of these artists that I have had my

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<v Speaker 1>eye on for quite some time, and I've been so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see where you've gone and what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>and where you continue to go and grow and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the world is yours, like what can't you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly, I truly mean it. So to begin, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my burning question for you. You ready for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever randomly during your day, whether you're grocery

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<v Speaker 1>shopping or doing laundry or at work, just stop and think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an Academy Award winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Never never, never, No. And I think when people say it,

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<v Speaker 2>it thwarts me that I'm like, oh, yeah, that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Why.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's because it was such and is still

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<v Speaker 2>an odd of body of experience that it was a

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<v Speaker 2>whirlwind and then it just happens. Right, You're on this

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<v Speaker 2>campaign for eight months. I'm still to me very early

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<v Speaker 2>in my career. So of course we all have goals

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<v Speaker 2>and wants and needs, but I never was like it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until quite honestly, the very end of all of

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<v Speaker 2>a war season and I was like, oh, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>hope I might maybe get nominated, do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? So when it happened, still feels very very surreal. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think about it, and I think, if anything,

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<v Speaker 2>what I am hyper focused on is using whatever that

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<v Speaker 2>will and can garner me to create other opportunities only

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, but for other people. That I would say

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<v Speaker 2>I've been very focused on less of the title, but

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<v Speaker 2>more of how can I use that to gain access

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<v Speaker 2>to the right doors and with the right people, to

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<v Speaker 2>not only help myself, but to help others, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know that I'll have more longevity in my career by

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<v Speaker 2>helping other people. Right, Like, if it was just me,

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<v Speaker 2>I can only get but so far. If I just

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<v Speaker 2>kept tunnel vision to just me, I can only get

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<v Speaker 2>so far. But if I made it more about other

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<v Speaker 2>people and a community and building a community, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we can can not only accomplish more, but it would

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<v Speaker 2>behoove me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool that you see this big win in

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<v Speaker 1>your career as a way to pay it forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to wow right so that it

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<v Speaker 2>then doesn't feel like a fleeting moment or oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that thing that happened, Because sometimes the biggest of moments

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<v Speaker 2>can feel like that, right that you spend all this

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<v Speaker 2>time and energy towards trying to make this thing happen, right,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is for any type of person, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it happens and you're like okay, and now what you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, especially I've exerted so much energy

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<v Speaker 2>on that thing, and so I think it's always people

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<v Speaker 2>in my circle joke with me of like, you're such

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<v Speaker 2>a planner, you always have a strategy of something, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's because of the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just it's never just right in front of you.

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<v Speaker 2>There always needs to I love a zoom and zoom

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<v Speaker 2>out right short term, long term, and so I just

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<v Speaker 2>think even with that award, I was always keenly focused

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<v Speaker 2>then on Okay, now what can we do with this

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<v Speaker 2>long term? Because now people are listening, right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a platform, I think you better have

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<v Speaker 2>a very clear intention and it can change and evolve,

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<v Speaker 2>but a clear intention on what you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>to pave the road for others and to really make

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<v Speaker 2>a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like when something that monumental happens in

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<v Speaker 1>your career, which it did, that you have this pressure

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<v Speaker 1>to keep one upping yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I already have that irregardless you're really honest, which maybe

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<v Speaker 2>how and why I got there I don't know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like that in general with anything at all things,

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<v Speaker 2>and it probably can be intent sometimes to be around me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think at the same time, I'm always looking

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<v Speaker 2>as to how to maximize any experience. I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>could be the nice way of saying it, but truly

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm like, how can we get the most out

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<v Speaker 2>of this? How can we, you know, really make an impact?

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<v Speaker 2>That no thing is a small thing. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>especially since my career thus far has been of a

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<v Speaker 2>supporting actress, you learn that of like okay number one,

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<v Speaker 2>you quite literally are here to support the other actor,

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<v Speaker 2>but to you are contributing and moving this forward, the

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<v Speaker 2>story forward. How can you make the most impact with

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<v Speaker 2>what you're given? And I think that's something that I've

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<v Speaker 2>just been a huge part of my life since the

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<v Speaker 2>very beginning, but also even more so as an actor,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been able to lean into that even more. I

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<v Speaker 2>think now in this day and age, there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>potentials for opportunities. It's not like you know, when our

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<v Speaker 2>parents were younger, where was much more you know, cutthroat

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<v Speaker 2>of you do this, you go to that school and

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<v Speaker 2>bring bang boom. You know one plus one equals too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's way good bad, are indifferent. There's way more opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to keep your eyes open and be ready.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think it's about diversifying yourself as much

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<v Speaker 2>as possible so that you know you never know what

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<v Speaker 2>will stick. But I think it's always good and crucial

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<v Speaker 2>to constantly be in tune with yourself and your wants

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<v Speaker 2>and needs. And I always do this like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a scan, like a check in with myself of like

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<v Speaker 2>who am I now, what are my wants and needs?

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<v Speaker 2>How can I help others? What do I need to improve?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a constant thing for me so that hopefully I'm

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<v Speaker 2>constantly evolving and as you said, leveling up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I love about you is not only have

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<v Speaker 1>you created such incredible work and you have a new

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<v Speaker 1>movie coming out which we're going to talk about in

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, but you also stand for so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that make people feel seen and just by being yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>just by giving beautiful speeches like you did at the

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<v Speaker 1>Oscars where you said, for so long you want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be different, but in that moment and now you

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<v Speaker 1>realize you just want to be yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to just pour that out is magical for people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's medicine for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because the other speeches I wrote them

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<v Speaker 2>we wrote them, and my prop says was like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do this off the dome. I was terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>I cried as we were getting ready. I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 2>I went into the corner of the hotel and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm scared. I don't know what to say

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<v Speaker 2>if it happens, and she just was like, we just

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<v Speaker 2>like recapped on all of it, and so it's wild

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it back. But I really do mean that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think often, at least my generation was taught like

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<v Speaker 2>be different, br unique, have that niche have that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more and more I do this, and having

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to travel the world and interview with people

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<v Speaker 2>and meet all these different people from all different walks

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<v Speaker 2>of life, what I realize is that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that don't know just how important and special

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<v Speaker 2>they are just as is. And I find that people

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<v Speaker 2>are constantly searching outside of themselves for inspiration and motivation,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great, but I think people a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times people miss that it's within, and so I try

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<v Speaker 2>to just like I said that, like psychological scan as

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<v Speaker 2>much and it changes right you. And it's not to

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<v Speaker 2>say you're not gonna have bad days or not feeling

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent. But I find with those check ins,

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<v Speaker 2>it allows you to be truthful to where you really are,

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<v Speaker 2>and it allows you to have more empathy for where

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<v Speaker 2>you're at and how you can grow from there, because

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we can be striving for that thing over there,

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<v Speaker 2>not even acknowledging where we're at here right, and so

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<v Speaker 2>in missing that connection, we're just getting more and more frustrating,

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<v Speaker 2>not realizing, well, you're not evaluating where you're at now

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<v Speaker 2>and what can be done here and now. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a mis nomenclature of like you got to like

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<v Speaker 2>dreaming is a privilege, or you have to wait for

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<v Speaker 2>that thing, And I just kind of of the philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>nowadays of it's always the thing, you can always be

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<v Speaker 2>doing something. I'm always telling my team, but we can

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<v Speaker 2>do something, we can do something right now. What can

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<v Speaker 2>we create for ourselves now? What opportunity can we do now?

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<v Speaker 2>How can we have an impact now? Yes, we have

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<v Speaker 2>that long term goal of whatever that thing is at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, but what can you do for yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>the present?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure having that mentality just makes you feel

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<v Speaker 1>seen right, and it helps you feel like this is me.

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<v Speaker 2>And it grounds yourself into who you are, and you

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<v Speaker 2>then grow in this. It takes time, a confidence in

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<v Speaker 2>knowing for yourself what you want and what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and you then kind of when your intentions

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<v Speaker 2>are right, when your heart is open and pure, and

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes from a place of giving. Oftentimes I

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<v Speaker 2>just say it to myself, it's not about me being right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. But then I'm like, not everyone's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>it yet, but it'll catch on. And so it requires

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<v Speaker 2>consistency and persistency to execute it. And sometimes you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>that alone, and that I feel like it is the

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<v Speaker 2>true test. How can you stick with something, bet on yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>root for yourself even if no one else is, And

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<v Speaker 2>then when they do sign on, how can you still

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<v Speaker 2>do that with an open heart and not be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys weren't here. What it doesn't matter. They're there

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<v Speaker 2>now right, It's aligned now right. And so that takes

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<v Speaker 2>humility and patience. And so that's why all these things

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<v Speaker 2>can happen. And I don't sit there thinking like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even think I would be able to accomplish things

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<v Speaker 2>if I just sat thinking of like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna asking winter and to be fair, I also

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<v Speaker 2>need to work on acknowledging things that I accomplish if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being completely transparent with you. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't allow myself to get caught up into that,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead, I don't know. I look at it as

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<v Speaker 2>like a joyful reminder of you accomplish that, so great,

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<v Speaker 2>So what are we going to do? Let's continue to

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<v Speaker 2>bet on ourselves because I think if you do. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the world honestly would be a better place if

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<v Speaker 2>we bet it on earth. Right, there's so much insecurity

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<v Speaker 2>and fear and understandable. It's hard, it's really hard. But

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes the best support system is within and then through

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<v Speaker 2>doing so, you radiate and attract the right people to

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<v Speaker 2>come into your circle to further. Yeah, but that takes discernment, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm like, it's the inside work first, because

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not, you will always attract things good, better

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<v Speaker 2>and different. And there are moments right where we're like

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<v Speaker 2>how when you look at your circle and your like

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, the moves that you're making, like what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on? Why am I? And a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times it's just because you're not taking the time to

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<v Speaker 2>look in or checking in or identifying your wants and

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<v Speaker 2>needs and you're just going along with the flow. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>comfortability is like one of the most dangerous things, right,

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<v Speaker 2>even when it feel good, that things that feel good

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<v Speaker 2>aren't always good for you. And that's a tough lesson

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<v Speaker 2>because some people are like, but I just I just

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<v Speaker 2>made it. I just started feeling comfortable, and it's like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>keep some of that, but it's on to the next

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<v Speaker 2>with the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm gonna need you to do before you leave

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<v Speaker 1>today is record three hundred and sixty five inspirational messages

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<v Speaker 1>in my phone so that every single day I can

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and press play and just hear you say something.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you are are giving me all the good fuel

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<v Speaker 1>in the world that I need right now. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love that and I appreciate you sharing your insights because

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can't grow and learn and be better

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<v Speaker 1>people unless we take these yeah lessons, these little nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>of wisdom as I like to call it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>go make it our own.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that's the key, right you and I

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<v Speaker 2>only can say these things because I've experienced it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that I'm just saying, you know, high falutin

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<v Speaker 2>things that sound good. Anyone knows when you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to experience it to know it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's our job and part of our purpose is

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<v Speaker 2>to pass those lessons along. Like you have friends right

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<v Speaker 2>that if you go through something or they ask you

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<v Speaker 2>for advice, you can give them the advice. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>your nearest and DearS, you're like, Okay, nope, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>ready for it yet, heard it, yeah, or they either

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear it, or they heard it and

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<v Speaker 2>it just washed over them. But I do genuinely believe

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<v Speaker 2>that the consciousness does take it in. Yes, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'n't even experienced ourselves, almost like deja vu. It comes

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<v Speaker 2>back and we're like, like, where did that sounded familiar?

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<v Speaker 2>Where did that come from? And it's like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>had that soul exchange where a gem was a lesson

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<v Speaker 2>was told to you. You just weren't ready for it then.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that will help us require more patience

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<v Speaker 2>and empathy with one another of like we all want

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<v Speaker 2>the best for ourselves, we all want to be good

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<v Speaker 2>people and make the most of it. But sometimes there's

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<v Speaker 2>blocks and things in the way, or sometimes you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>deal with something else in order to get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think it's important that we listen to

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<v Speaker 2>our feelings and intuitions. I read something the other day

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought was really really great. They were saying

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<v Speaker 2>that triggers, when one is triggered, it is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest gifts you can ever get and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best indicators that your body is giving you to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know, like we need to look into this.

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<v Speaker 2>It may not be bad like whoa, but it's that

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<v Speaker 2>voice or that thing that's a gift of like I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to bring this to your attention, like just

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<v Speaker 2>look at this, right. And I think sometimes we get

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<v Speaker 2>so caught up and overwhelmed and anxiety over triggers, but

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<v Speaker 2>their gifts right when our nervous system, when our body

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<v Speaker 2>is like ah, that's something, and it's ultimately trying to

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<v Speaker 2>protect you and alert you. And so I say all

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<v Speaker 2>this as a like give you. We need to give

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves more grace, just more grace because life is lifing

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. But I really think it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>series of tests and it's just seeing how we're navigating

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<v Speaker 2>it to just go through, right. You can't force it.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to go through it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta go through it. You have to go through

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<v Speaker 1>what's thrown in front of you and what you're meant

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<v Speaker 1>to go through, and it gives you clarity to continue

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<v Speaker 1>on and live your life and do your job and

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<v Speaker 1>be the best you you can be and bring your

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<v Speaker 1>best self to whatever it is you're doing, which you,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear, have done with Shadow Force.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are in the action world now, yeah, you are

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<v Speaker 1>kick ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the movie, why you wanted to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>about your role.

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<v Speaker 2>So Joe Carnahan, which I was obsessed with with in

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<v Speaker 2>particular when he did Smoking Aces I think it's a classic,

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<v Speaker 2>had reached out and he said he thought of me

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<v Speaker 2>for this role, which I was like, what, I was

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<v Speaker 2>blown away that he even would consider as such. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, I want it to bring in some

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<v Speaker 2>comedy and warmth to this movie yet still having all

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful fun elements of, you know, an action movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And he felt as though this character and the character

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<v Speaker 2>other role who I'm partnering with with method Man perspectively

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<v Speaker 2>and Auntie could bring that to life. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>think what's so cool about this movie is that while

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<v Speaker 2>it is an action movie. What's really unique is that

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<v Speaker 2>it is targeting, to me from my perspective, not only

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<v Speaker 2>a female conscious by having the gender roles kind of flipped,

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<v Speaker 2>by having this woman being arguably the better assassin, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as like a single dad kind of right raising

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<v Speaker 2>his son, but also seeing a black family at the

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<v Speaker 2>center of an action movie. I don't think we've ever

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<v Speaker 2>had that. So it has all these great elements of

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, femforward, a black family, a loving family,

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<v Speaker 2>international aspect to it in this sense of community and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going by any means necessary for fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>what's yours. So the themes of it was just so

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<v Speaker 2>great that I was like, yeah, yeah, sign me up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. So what's been fun about doing an action

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<v Speaker 1>based movie versus some of the other work you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Action requires, at least for me, trust because there are

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<v Speaker 2>elements when filming an action movie that you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about yet. Does that make sense? Like you they have

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<v Speaker 2>to add in sound and CGI and special effects, so

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<v Speaker 2>not that it feels empty, but there are like missing

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<v Speaker 2>parts does that make sense when filming it that later

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<v Speaker 2>have to be layered in where like something else, I

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is, I know I can see what

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<v Speaker 2>it is all these things are here, So that was

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<v Speaker 2>a really nice challenge. And it's also it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of synchronicity, meaning we were lucky enough to have about

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<v Speaker 2>a month almost two months of training with a marine

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<v Speaker 2>specialist and so like the dutiful student and me was

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, okay, I got it. But then it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of this right of the action element

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<v Speaker 2>but then also acting and because it's action, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be super safe, but they make it look supernatural

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<v Speaker 2>and flow. So that was a great way to like

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<v Speaker 2>stretch my brain because it wanted to compartmentalize, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean almost like can we do all the

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<v Speaker 2>action stuff and then do the acting stuff. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do the core. That's totally what it felt like, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I really have a lot of respect for people

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<v Speaker 2>who do that. And then to make it look so

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<v Speaker 2>effortless was really great. Also, uh tonally like delivery wise,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bit more straight in regards to your delivery,

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<v Speaker 2>which at first I was like, oh my gonna sound

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<v Speaker 2>like really monotone. But there's just there's like little things

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<v Speaker 2>stylistically that I honestly just had to like watch everyone

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<v Speaker 2>and take it in of like okay, okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I do that and that. So it was really

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<v Speaker 2>really cool to learn these new tools or ways of

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<v Speaker 2>acting in that action format.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your number one tip to successfully kicking some butt?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Passion?

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<v Speaker 1>Passion?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it really is passion, I think. So I found,

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<v Speaker 2>like from an acting point of view, when it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you said, the choreography, you know it,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they say action, it's really of like the

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<v Speaker 2>connection of what's driving you to do what you're wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to do, you know what I mean, and just be

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<v Speaker 2>passionate about it, knowing you know what I mean? The

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<v Speaker 2>why is it? Because I realize, like you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>I started, I was like, oh, I get it, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a shooting a gun. It's like, no, why what is

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship? What did they do to you? What did

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<v Speaker 2>they do to your friend? Like? What is the reason?

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<v Speaker 2>And that is when I saw that it connected much

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<v Speaker 2>more profoundly.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you sound like you have the action bug? Like

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to do some more.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fun. I think it's really fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it stretches another side of my brain and I

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<v Speaker 2>never want to limit myself. So I think it's really

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<v Speaker 2>cool to have that option in your back pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe another action movie with you and someone I know

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of your list Bradley Cooper.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would be yeah. Project I'm thinking of in

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<v Speaker 2>particular too, that could be fun. He's a cool guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a cool guy. He's a very hard worker, very sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Like just watching in recent years like If a Star

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<v Speaker 2>is Born and the recent movie he did that man

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<v Speaker 2>is just he really is passionate and he's all in

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<v Speaker 2>and there's so much humility, and I just in general,

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to be around as many creatives as

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<v Speaker 2>possible that have that kind of intention, that really care

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<v Speaker 2>still possessed because there's a lot of smoke of mirrors

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<v Speaker 2>and other things in this industry that I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you have to work harder to be focused. Then it

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>requires more energy, right, So I really admire people at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of their game who I know have so

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<v Speaker 2>many things coming at them, and yet they choose, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, the right path, which is like good work,

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<v Speaker 2>hard or you know, hard working, good work, ethic, honest, honorable,

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<v Speaker 2>passionate people.

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<v Speaker 1>Not always easy to find, no, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not their fault, right, Like it's almost in a weird

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<v Speaker 2>way intended that way to be all this other stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it really means a lot. When I meet that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wow, that took a lot of conscious effort.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the I'm sure you can't say, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it close to your heart, but what's the type

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<v Speaker 1>of projects that you have in mind for you?

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<v Speaker 2>There is a movie, an older movie called to Catch

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<v Speaker 2>a Thief with Carrie Grant and I am blinking on

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<v Speaker 2>her name, Grace Kelly, and it is actually a Alfred

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<v Speaker 2>Hitchcock movie that is supposed to be adapted, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that could be a really from project.

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<v Speaker 1>We're declaring it right now. Yes, I love that. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>A little spy, yeah yeah, great fashion set in the

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<v Speaker 2>South of France.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, I'm in. I'll just like blow a

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<v Speaker 1>fan your away on set because I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>there for all that. Okay, I'm in. I'm in. What's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool about you is you speak so beautifully from

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<v Speaker 1>the heart. You've had so much success, You're so accomplished,

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<v Speaker 1>And when I meet people like you, I'm always very

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<v Speaker 1>interested because I don't think publicly we see the hardships right,

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<v Speaker 1>and rejections over the years. Was there ever a time

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<v Speaker 1>in your career that you can remember where you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted a roll and you had your whole heart

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<v Speaker 1>in it and it just didn't work out and you

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<v Speaker 1>had to pick yourself up and keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Going constantly, and I would say less of a role

0:25:54.920 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 2>and more of the This industry is a mare, and

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 2>there's constantly things that will come your way that challenges

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>you your worth. It's hard not to take it personal because

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, I used to, I guess I still am

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>a musician, and so I used to always be jealous

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 2>of the instrumentalists because I felt as though, and this

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>could be wrong, but to me, they could quote unquote

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>hide behind their instrument and as a vocalist, I felt

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>so naked and quite literally like your heart is open.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 2>It felt a lot, right, Yeah, And so similarly in

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>this industry, of course, you're literally portraying these roles. It's very,

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>very hard not to take this personally. It's filled with

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 2>tons of rejection. You're constant being compared and contrasted. It's

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 2>very competitive. There's strategy, there's so many layers to it,

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and I think the biggest hardship has been staying in it.

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.959
<v Speaker 2>Not because I've lost the passion, far from it, but

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>there's just constantly things that are coming at you. But

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I will say the reason why I can speak to

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you in this way is because of right, like when

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I say the lessons and almost feels like and I

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe because it's in my scope, but the

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>entertainment business and at this level it's like life on speed. Right,

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 2>So we're an average person may have a really bad day,

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, once a month, like a really

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>bad day once a month. In this industry, it might

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>be once a week, right where you're like whoa, Okay,

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>this might be it, right, but you have to be

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>like no, okay, regroup, have your support around you. And

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I've grown to take my time, reclaim my time, but

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 2>also give myself a beat. And I've been trying to

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>tell this to other loved ones too, of like, you

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>don't have to answer everyone immediately right in the moment.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>If something's coming up by the thing they're asking, just say,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 2>let me get back to you. They do it all

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 2>the time, right, But we as the talent or the

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 2>thing of focus, feel like, oh okay, because sometimes we

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>don't make the right decisions for ourselves because we're trying

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to people.

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>Please or not seem difficult or whatever it may.

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And so that's the stuff I think is

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the hardest, continuing to challenge yourself, being open, but also

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>at the same time advocating for yourself. And so the

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>only way I know how to stay in this is

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.959
<v Speaker 2>to do those check ins, those scans, having a support

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>system around me, having a belief in something other than myself,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't feel so incl and like it's engving

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>in on you, cause it's a lot. It's a lot.

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I think people should have empathy for more artists,

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a reason why. It's slightly off topic, but

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I think there is a reason why some of your

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>favorite musical or you know whatever, any kind of creative entity,

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.959
<v Speaker 2>there's reasons why sometimes they spiral or will have Like

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot, and I don't think people will realize that.

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>And if you don't have the necessary tools and prioritizing

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the care needed, there's a reason why some of the

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>greatest artists we ever know haven't had long lives. It's

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>this weird, interesting exchange. And so I think it's a lesson,

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's to say that, you know, I think

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>you can have it all. You just got to take

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>care of yourself and know when to be like, this

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 2>is going to be here, It's always going to be here.

0:29:55.520 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Let me take care of myself.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Especially when you have so much going on. I mean,

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>even here, you're doing this press tour for this new

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>movie that everybody's gonna go out watch. Right, We're gonna

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>go see that movie. We want to go see its

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>shadow for us. But you're also filming things as you're

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>doing it. Aren't you currently filming yea only murders a

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>new season, right, So there's a lot you have to

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>protect your own well being while you're doing all of that.

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm very lucky my team has they've gotten

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I think they know me very well and know like

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>before early in my career, I would say yes to everything,

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and I find by me saying no to certain things,

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm open and willing to do more if that makes couch.

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>When I said yes to everything, I burned out in

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>like two months. When I was more particular about what

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I wanted, more, not only more things came to me

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>in abundance, but of the right things, but my longevity

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 2>was able to sustain for far more.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>We need you to be here forever. Don't you be

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>burning out on us? Okay, yes, we need more work

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>from you, We need more art from you. How it

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>is only murders going than it.

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Is so much fun. It literally honestly gets better and

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>better every season. I don't know how they do it,

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>but it literally gets better and better every season. And

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the cast that we get every year, they just top.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 2>It's beyond.

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you have more scenes with Meryll's I know that's

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>what you wanted. You finally got it.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, so we I've shot half of my episodes, uh,

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>so far and then I'll do the last half in

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>like two weeks, three weeks, and so yeah, I get

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>to real.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you did it. You're doing it. Very blessed you're

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And you know you you are a singer.

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>We alluded to that. Of course, you are a very

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>accomplished singer on stage that we know and love. Do

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you ever bust out a tune on set?

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>You?

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 3>No, not that never, not even with Selena Gomez. You

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 3>aren't like, let's do what you West's interesting. This is

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 3>my theory on like karaoke. People who can actually sing

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 3>hate doing karaoke. I don't even like going no.

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 2>No, I've tried it, and then it's cringey because inside

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you're like, you're flag at this, Like it's like little

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>judgments going on in my head. People who actually can

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>sing rarely sing. Selena is silent. You I've never heard her.

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 2>If she's in the best mood, she may hump and

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>you're like, right, Martin short constantly. He's actually a very

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>good singer. Actually, it's like it's giving like Broadway one

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>on one really, yeah, it's show.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Tunes and you don't jump in come on.

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Unless they pay me to do that. On this episode

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>they have which they have that, which they definitely have.

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>No he no, but it's it's it's beautiful to see

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I love to see him sing. But you know what,

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I actually need to work on that. I I don't know.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't sing enough even for my own enjoyment. And

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>that's interesting, Like since becoming an actor, I haven't engaged

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>in that as much, and I need to, Okay, I

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>definitely we.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Look forward to more of that from you, for sure, Davine.

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I could speak for hours with you. This is so

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>much fun. But as we wrap up, Yes, the name

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of the show is called I've never said this before,

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and it was born we were talking earlier from this

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>idea that I cover a lot of our carpets and

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>press junkets, and as you know, you get three minutes

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>or six minutes with the reporter and it's just not

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.719
<v Speaker 1>real conversation. We all try our best, but it's so

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>quick and we have to get the bites in. And

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it was born from an idea of wanting to connect

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>with people on a more human level because we all

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>go through the same stuff, and when we talk about

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it or share lessons or advice, I think we're better collectively.

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>So with all of that being said, is there anything

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>today you can think of that maybe you've never said

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>before in an interview that you want to share.

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I think I probably have said some version of this,

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.959
<v Speaker 2>but I think I just want to really reiterate kind

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 2>of what you just said. Like I really wish people

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 2>would understand and know that the same life I live

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 2>in many ways is still the same life you live.

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Does that like you don't need to be a movie

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>star or a rock star or whatever, Like we all

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>go through the same things. They're just in different settings.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>And so I just wish that people will give themselves

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>more grace, and I wish that people would be honest

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and take down the masks so that they can connect,

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>because I think a lot of times we're scared to

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>be vulnerable and share with friends and loved ones what's

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>going on. And I think if we did, not only

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>would we be healthier, but we will learn the lessons quicker.

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I really so like these past two weeks, right, so

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>many people have called me and been like, girl, is

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 2>mercury and retrograde? Because the hell? And I was like,

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it is. I really think like everybody, And

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I use as an example, right that all people from

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>all walks of life reached out to me and was like, girl,

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I am going through it now. I could have lied

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 2>because of what they assume my life is. Right. I

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of times people assume with success is

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>smooth sailing. One of the realest things Jay z Ever

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>said was more money, more problems, more success, more problems,

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>more anything. The more you have, the more you have

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>to deal with, point blank. Period. So I could have

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>lied and been like, oh really, oh so sorry, I

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>was going through it, and I say that to say it.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>We don't just because people are. And I say this

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>because it's such a social media driven world right now,

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and there's so many people like all respect in the

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 2>world to influencers and how they've been able to, you

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, really catapult themselves and quite literally

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>create revenue and exposure for themselves that is amazing. I

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>think if we all could have a bit of that,

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that's great. But in that I think now which is beautiful,

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 2>that it inspires like anybody can make it, which I

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>love that aspect of it, because I do believe anyone can.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think now there's this desire to reach for

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>fame or celebrity or whatever, and I think that's to

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 2>be less of the goal of what we're going for,

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's more of the community and the collective.

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 2>And so I think, like, you know, just because a

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are aspiring for that, but please understand

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>it comes with its whole new you know, I mean,

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>bag of tricks. And so more so than anything, I'm

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like life is gonna life me the

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.720
<v Speaker 2>same way it's gonna life you, and we just need

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:13.439
<v Speaker 2>to connect with one another and not let these other

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 2>things and signs of status and stuff get in the way.

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm also very well aware even being in this

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>position tomorrow you may never see me, you know what

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like all that I've accomplished. You know how

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the world is, Like, I'm not gonna do You're not

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 2>gonna find me, no scandal. I'm not messy like that,

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 2>but do you know what I mean? Like I could

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>be hot and then it'd be like what was her name? Right?

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So I gotta feel good about who I am and

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 2>what I've contributed in the legacy that I'm creating, so

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>that I'm not relying upon that. That's why I don't

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>wake up every morning being like, oh why I'm an

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 2>oscar because okay, cool that happened. Now what else? Right?

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Like okay, cool, that's that. What else can you bring

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>to the table outside of your career? How are you

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>as a human being? What other things are interesting about you?

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 2>And I like to surround myself around a mix of

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 2>people where it isn't all just industry people, or if

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>it is industry people, like we were saying, grounded people

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.959
<v Speaker 2>because life is so much important, more important, And that's

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 2>why I became an actor and I choose the roles

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>that I do. I like to play women who have

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 2>complexities and stuff of them and making the ordinary extraordinary,

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>right Like, I intentionally like to go for more blue

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>collar like women and make them into these superheroes. I

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>looked out having this action movie, but you know what

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, who's actually kicking butt? But let's also give

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>voice to the voiceless of these women who are just

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>getting by in their day to day, right because that's

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>really important. The fancy stuff is fine, we have the

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>fancy moments, but life is really more of that stuff.

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>And so I just hope people are encouraged of like,

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to have what you think this life

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<v Speaker 2>is in order to be special and understand whatever you're

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with in Wisconsin, I'm dealing with the same thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing. It's just on a different scale

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<v Speaker 2>or a different amalclamation, but it's the same. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think though allow people to have empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you, thank you for sharing that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really powerful to hear and it's why we all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of yearn and search for connection because we all

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<v Speaker 1>do feel the same things. So I couldn't love that more.

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<v Speaker 1>I also couldn't love more that. Here's my phone for

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<v Speaker 1>those three hundred and sixty five inspirational messages, Avine, what

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<v Speaker 1>a joy. Thank you for hanging out. I adore you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always rooting for you from Afar and everybody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and see Shadow Force. It is out.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fantastic and we can't wait to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I've Never Said This Before is hosted by

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<v Speaker 1>me Tommy Dedario. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew

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