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<v Speaker 1>Right, what justin middle to field forty five to fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>bring Russ in front of a leading Lions in this way?

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<v Speaker 1>I am Jeff Joniadicklitz is not donig up her.

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<v Speaker 2>What was like playing for coach Bigdom?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to answer any questions like that. Sixty

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<v Speaker 3>one yards?

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<v Speaker 1>What's Sunday stroll for? Justin Field? Bears et Cetera With

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<v Speaker 1>the voices of the Chicago Bears Jeff Joniac, It's that

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<v Speaker 1>time again. It's Bears Packers trying to be dramatic time

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<v Speaker 1>trying to set the scene here on the Bears et

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<v Speaker 1>Cetera Podcast, Episode forty eight. The season began with the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers with the Bears in week one. The Bears are

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<v Speaker 1>a different team as we enter Week eighteen, nothing else

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<v Speaker 1>to play for but their own ride and their own

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<v Speaker 1>big finish as a platform to twenty twenty four, which

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<v Speaker 1>promises to be extremely intriguing. Packers. Well, they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>secure a playoff spot with a win, and they could

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<v Speaker 1>have a six or seven seed in the playoffs. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to all of it in this episode. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. We appreciate your time. As always, we

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<v Speaker 1>also have special guest Mike tom Zach, Tom's teammate from

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<v Speaker 1>the eighty five Bears, now an assistant football coach on

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<v Speaker 1>a volunteer level at Youngstown State, something he's done for

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<v Speaker 1>the last eight years or so. I think you'll find

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation riveting and entertaining, and we're gonna hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>You learned a lot of stuff you never knew, didn't you?

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<v Speaker 1>One percent? Yes? And I every time I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard every eighty five Bear story. That's why Tom, as

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<v Speaker 1>we digress for just a smidge, No documentary that has

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<v Speaker 1>ever been done or will be done, could ever capture

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<v Speaker 1>every single strain and thread of that eighty five Bear team.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't because first of all, you can't do a

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<v Speaker 4>documentary long enough. And then, you know, it just happenstance

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<v Speaker 4>that you and I got on different subject matters and

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<v Speaker 4>different avenues of interest that affected both myself and Mike

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<v Speaker 4>because we are incoming Bear rookies together. You know, it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of kicked off of friendship that has lasted this

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<v Speaker 4>long and beyond. I'm friends with this entire family, was

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<v Speaker 4>close to his dad and everything. But the behind the

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<v Speaker 4>scenes stories that you don't get a chance to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Until you actually sit down and talk about them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think people will really get a kick out of

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<v Speaker 4>some of the chance meetings and some of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that happened throughout our careers together unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to hear the entire news conference from

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday from Bear's quarterback Justin Fields. Thought it was his

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<v Speaker 1>best one of the year. I think he's in a

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<v Speaker 1>really good place mentally. He's in a good space, and

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<v Speaker 1>he feels he feels good about the progress that he's

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<v Speaker 1>made individually, the team made as a whole, and he

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<v Speaker 1>puts everything about the team, everything about what is right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not really engaging on anything beyond that.

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<v Speaker 4>That kind of frustrates me about the press conference is

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<v Speaker 4>because they ask him so much about his future, which

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<v Speaker 4>is irrelevant. In Wednesday of Packer week, it's about the

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<v Speaker 4>Bears Packers game.

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<v Speaker 3>What have you done to improve.

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<v Speaker 4>From the first time you played the Packers Week one?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you doing right now that makes you feel

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<v Speaker 4>more confident going into lambeau Field. Who on your team

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<v Speaker 4>have you developed a working relationship with that can help

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<v Speaker 4>you beat the Green Bay Packers Sunday? And that's all

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<v Speaker 4>those questions that go on and asked because everybody wants

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<v Speaker 4>to get the same answer to the same question of

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<v Speaker 4>that everybody asks and so to me, SIS be a

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<v Speaker 4>little angst and angry. It's packer week, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's a little bit unfair about the questions that they

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<v Speaker 4>continue to ask just every time he goes to the podium,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's postgame or midweek.

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<v Speaker 1>Good new Chicago United Airlines is getting brand new planes

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<v Speaker 1>with all the bells and whistles like Bluetooth connectivity screens,

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<v Speaker 1>hit every seat in room for everyone's rollerbag. United Proud

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<v Speaker 1>to fly the Chicago Bears and you too. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>the status at hallis some movement on the roster. Colin

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson the big receiver, big number eighty and now the

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<v Speaker 1>active roster. They wave linebacker DeMarcus Gates, long snapper Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Overton an emergency addition on the practice squad. With Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Scales dealing with a foot injury. They're trying to see

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<v Speaker 1>how he makes it through the week. Also, Tyreek Stevenson

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<v Speaker 1>Tom named NFC Defensive Player of the Week. Four pass breakups,

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<v Speaker 1>two interceptions. We've talked a lot about him. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most targeted corners in the NFL in

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<v Speaker 1>neon lights. I'm a rookie, you know, have at it

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<v Speaker 1>with Jalen Johnson on the other side, but he has

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<v Speaker 1>got better the entire season matured, and he has never

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<v Speaker 1>gone into tank tom never, not one time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, outside of quarterback, cornerback.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the position that you have to have the thickest

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<v Speaker 4>skin because if you think of a quarterback throwing in

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<v Speaker 4>interceptions his approach to the sideline, there's a million things

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<v Speaker 4>going through his head.

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<v Speaker 3>You are cornerback and you give up a.

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<v Speaker 4>Touchdown, there's a million things going through your head, and

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<v Speaker 4>then there's a lot said about you after the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I admire Justin Fields and I admire Tyreek Stevenson because

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<v Speaker 4>of two of the thickest skin positions on an NFL team.

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<v Speaker 4>Both of them have put that on display.

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<v Speaker 1>And the NFC Offensive player of the Week is who

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears will be facing. Jordan Love. Five games with

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<v Speaker 1>three or more touchdowns and a one hundred plus quarterback rating,

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<v Speaker 1>time for most in the league. In the win over Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>we touched on it in the Monday Podcast. Three touchdowns passing,

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<v Speaker 1>one rushing, and two hundred and fifty six yards of

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<v Speaker 1>passing and a one to twenty five quarterback rating. He

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<v Speaker 1>is elevating, he is, He's elevating at quarterback. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a matchup.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, Jordan Love will probably tell you he's

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<v Speaker 4>the most fortunate player in the NFL to have the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to be drafted in the first round and sit

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<v Speaker 4>behind a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers for that long before

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<v Speaker 4>he was put in as the starting quarterback. Because you

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<v Speaker 4>can see his mannerisms, the way he looks at the offense,

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<v Speaker 4>the things that he has seen repetitiously in the meetings

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<v Speaker 4>that has spoke to him by the coaches, and he

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<v Speaker 4>watched Aaron Rodgers do the way he handles himself in

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<v Speaker 4>preparation through the regular season, through training camp. So Jordan

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<v Speaker 4>Love throughout the course of the season has put a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of those types of improvements on display, and deservingly

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<v Speaker 4>so he wins the award.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Bears have two pro bowlders, Tom announced last

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<v Speaker 1>night and they were done so so kind of interestingly

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<v Speaker 1>by the Bears Ryan Poles, the general manager, and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>eberfluss in on it. So they called in cornerback Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson and defensive end Montest Sweat on their off day

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, said they had some things for them to

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<v Speaker 1>look at on plays from the game on Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>so while they were both hesitant, they did arrive and

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<v Speaker 1>there were GoPros in the office when they showed up

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<v Speaker 1>and were told that they were Pro Bowlers. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reactions you can check out on the Bear's website and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears social channels simply outstate. Jalen was with his

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<v Speaker 1>whole family, he was going nuts, and Montest Sweat thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>So two Pro Bowlers from the Bears, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a late push by the fan voting and a number

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<v Speaker 1>of Bears players made it into the top ten. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not a game. We can debate what

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<v Speaker 1>this is all about, you know, on another podcast maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a bunch of events now as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>just just the game. So it's not like it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But the recognition is such that players do

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<v Speaker 1>do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe I'm all for Montese sled, I'm all for

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<v Speaker 4>Jalen Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>I think TJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Edwards rees, you know, he deserves the Pro Ball as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think justin Fields should get consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's listen in to Justin Fields at the podium and

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<v Speaker 1>have us all on Wednesday feel like you were showing

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of what you're capable for.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it just felt good to go out there

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<v Speaker 5>and get a double with my teammates. You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>think everybody played well offense, defense, special team. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's always good, a good feeling when you get a home.

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<v Speaker 6>Is there satisfaction though, when when you play a good game,

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<v Speaker 6>man you get the win.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I'm just doing my job at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the day, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>in my eyes, I could have played better, didn't play

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<v Speaker 5>good enough. But like I said, good team win. Everybody

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<v Speaker 5>played well on all three phase of the football and

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<v Speaker 5>good team win.

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<v Speaker 7>So how much better have you got and this team

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<v Speaker 7>gotten since the first game against Green Bays start year?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I think we've improved tremendously in all phases.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's players and coaches. So we've grown

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<v Speaker 5>a lot as a team. Our chemistry is going with

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<v Speaker 5>each other. So excited to go out there Sunday at

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<v Speaker 5>three forty five and well up.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But does that factor end?

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<v Speaker 7>Is there any kind of motivation or incentive to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>we want to show the Packers what we are? What

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<v Speaker 7>to that beating you guys to start the season.

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<v Speaker 8>Does the factor and that they beat us earlier in

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<v Speaker 8>this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean we want to win every game. It

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter when they beat us. We're not thinking of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, our mindset is just go out there and

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<v Speaker 5>playball like how we've been playing, and you know, win

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<v Speaker 5>the game. So every game we want to win, no

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<v Speaker 5>matter against just the your field part whatever you know

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<v Speaker 5>team or the green bad Packers. So every game we

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<v Speaker 5>step on the field, we want to win the game.

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<v Speaker 9>So early this year, you pointed to the Lions of

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<v Speaker 9>last season, the turnaround that they had and kind of

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<v Speaker 9>setting the foundation. Obviously, the parallels are starting to become

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<v Speaker 9>more clear now with the success you guys have had

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<v Speaker 9>as elated.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think back to that could all? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>look to that as an example still?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I was just kind of given an example,

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<v Speaker 5>but now we're not basing our team based off of

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<v Speaker 5>their team last year. I was just just simply comparing,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, our season this year versus theirs last year.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah, they did finish last year with a week

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<v Speaker 9>a team winning lambo. What would it mean to to

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<v Speaker 9>cap the season off with the victory there? And rival

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<v Speaker 9>You're not the significance for you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Within you know, I think it means a lot to uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the team, the fans of the city. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it'd be great. You know, we know that Green Bays

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<v Speaker 5>playing for a lot at stake. They're playing for a

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<v Speaker 5>playoff spot right now. So I just think with you know,

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<v Speaker 5>kind of all that on the table, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it would be great, a great feeling that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in the season off with the winning lambo up there.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, we're just going to take a day

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<v Speaker 5>by day wry about you know, the rest of the

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<v Speaker 5>day and tomorrow and you know, of course leading up

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<v Speaker 5>a Sunday, get ready to play boss because.

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<v Speaker 3>What's at stake for them?

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<v Speaker 10>You're going to walk into a pretty big game environment

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<v Speaker 10>on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the value for a.

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<v Speaker 10>Team like you guys and just gaining experience in those

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<v Speaker 10>big game, big stage moments.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't see it being that much different.

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<v Speaker 5>I see it, you know, because everybody always the rivalry

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever I think it's going to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the same environment, so I don't see it being too

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<v Speaker 5>much different. But I mean, like I said, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be fun. It's gonna be a fun environment to walk into.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, their home field. I know their friends gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be loud because it's not much to do in green bags,

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<v Speaker 5>I watch football.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>A great environment to us for us to play in

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, hopefully have a great game and get

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<v Speaker 5>the double on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So where where do.

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<v Speaker 7>Where is Having DJ as a teammate helped you grow

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<v Speaker 7>as a quarterback the most this year.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'll just talk about, you know, how smart

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<v Speaker 5>he is, how he understands leverages, coverages, has tempo you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in and out of his routes, and of course he's

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<v Speaker 5>just a great play player and playmaker. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's it's great having him on the team. He

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<v Speaker 5>makes my job easier. Like I always say, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's pretty much always open unless they double team him.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean it's been great. You know, anytime you

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<v Speaker 5>can get the ball in his hands, you know you're

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<v Speaker 5>most likely going to get an explosive play. He's hard

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<v Speaker 5>to tackle, he's like a running back after he gets

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<v Speaker 5>the ball in his hands. So, like I've said, throughout

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<v Speaker 5>this whole year, he's made my job easier and been

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<v Speaker 5>a great asset to the team.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been a catch of his this year. That eat

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<v Speaker 3>in game that you.

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<v Speaker 5>Were even astonished by, I think the I think the

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<v Speaker 5>last game was one of his best catches that I've seen,

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<v Speaker 5>the shoulder. I think it was a third down or

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<v Speaker 5>something like that. Yeah, that was a that was a

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<v Speaker 5>pretty cool catch. But I've seen him make, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>playing catches and practice that were wild. So you probably

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<v Speaker 5>haven't even seen him. But I can't really think of

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<v Speaker 5>any others that comes to the top of my head,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, from game. But I think that one last

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<v Speaker 5>week is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>That we talked you.

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<v Speaker 6>Earlier about compartmentalizing whatever your future might be and just

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<v Speaker 6>worrying about the next game.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens next week? When there's no next game to

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<v Speaker 3>worry about?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you do you know whether you'll have any more

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<v Speaker 6>clarity about your future and how do you deal with

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<v Speaker 6>it when maybe there's not the focus you need so

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<v Speaker 6>intensely every day where you might let your mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Wander next we I don't even know if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get next week, brother, So I'm just worried about the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of the day and you know, the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>the night. So got these meetings I'm about to head

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<v Speaker 5>to and you know, like I said, we got a

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<v Speaker 5>game on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not focused on you know what happens after that.

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<v Speaker 1>So justin what have you appreciated most about the brotherhood

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<v Speaker 1>in your locker room?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, you know, just how tight knit we are. You

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<v Speaker 5>know how much we've grown over the season. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>like I said, it feels like almost a college locker

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<v Speaker 5>room where you pretty much live within the ten minute

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<v Speaker 5>radius of all the guys. You're always hanging out and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like that. So the chemistry we have, the closest

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<v Speaker 5>we have within our group is amazing to see. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's it's it's rare in any NFL. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm definitely grateful for you know, all of the relationships

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<v Speaker 5>and connections I've made with you know, all of my

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<v Speaker 5>teammates this year. So it's it's it's just been awesome.

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<v Speaker 10>So a little bit the way your defense is playing

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<v Speaker 10>right now comparatively to where it was, what's your level

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<v Speaker 10>of appreciation for that side of the ball and what

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<v Speaker 10>they've done to kind of fuel s.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean shoot, like I always say every the game,

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<v Speaker 5>it makes my job easier when they give a short

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<v Speaker 5>fields and take the ball away and really on offense,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're having a slow, slow day, you can really

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<v Speaker 5>just worry about field position, like I think Cleveland was

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<v Speaker 5>a great example kind of the first half. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was kind of a defensive battle at first, and

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<v Speaker 5>field position was really important. You know when you have

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<v Speaker 5>a when you get a team backed up or we're

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<v Speaker 5>backed up, you know that's advantaged then. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when you have a defense is playing really well, you

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<v Speaker 5>know you don't have to four stuff downfield. You can

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<v Speaker 5>take what the defense gives you and really just know

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<v Speaker 5>that your defense is going to have your back. So,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the way with the way that they've been playing,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I offense is our job as an offense

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<v Speaker 5>has been way easier. Like I said, should we put

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<v Speaker 5>up twenty eight points in the games pretty much over

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, defense has been playing a great and

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<v Speaker 5>looking forward to them playing lights out one more time

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<v Speaker 5>this year, so it's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Most NFL quarterbacks get support from their teammates.

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<v Speaker 3>But when your teammates talk about you, they really really

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<v Speaker 3>gush about you.

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<v Speaker 7>What does it mean to you to have that really

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<v Speaker 7>strong support from the guys around you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I just I think that just shows

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<v Speaker 5>on how much we love each other, not only as players,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know as people as uh, you know, people

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<v Speaker 5>outside of the building building.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we've been a lot of We've been around

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of guys you know, in the past on

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<v Speaker 5>different teams and stuff like that, and you can kind

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<v Speaker 5>of tell when people really love the game and really

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<v Speaker 5>are passionate about the game of football. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say all the guys in the locker room

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<v Speaker 5>are so when you just see their work ethic, how

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<v Speaker 5>much they care about the game, how much they care

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<v Speaker 5>about you know, the team and winning the team success.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, that just all brings us closer together and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, focusing on accomplishing one one goal as a team.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just think that's you know, goes back to

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<v Speaker 5>what we talked about at the beginning of this year

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<v Speaker 5>with you know, Coach Flus just getting us all together,

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<v Speaker 5>getting us all close, having those breaking off in the

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<v Speaker 5>groups and really getting closer to each other. Talking about

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<v Speaker 5>you know, personal life from growing up and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you know a guy's story, you know where

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<v Speaker 5>he's came from, you get to connect on a deeper

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<v Speaker 5>personal level which you know has which causes you to

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<v Speaker 5>have that connection closer. So you just know a guy

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<v Speaker 5>for who he is. Away from the game, that's when

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<v Speaker 5>you really get to connect with the teammates and really

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<v Speaker 5>start to grow as a team.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, you listened to it, Tom, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did as well. I thought he was real strong up there, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I I really admire justin from what he's gone

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<v Speaker 4>through all season.

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<v Speaker 3>And not only I.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the fact that when he talks about how close

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<v Speaker 4>the locker room room, as he referred to as a

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<v Speaker 4>as a ten minute radius, and that means, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just to analogize that the closest group of people in

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<v Speaker 4>your football life for the guys inside that locker room,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of times with the modern day world

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<v Speaker 4>of cell phones, a lot of your closest people in

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<v Speaker 4>your support are only a phone call or text message

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<v Speaker 4>or an email away. When you have that closeness that

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Eberflus and Ryan Poles and the organization has developed

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<v Speaker 4>inside that locker room. I think it tells you a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about the direction this organization is going.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's time to tackle some game day deals. Then

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<v Speaker 1>go with a grocer who's been part of Chicago since

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety nine, Juelasco, the official grocery store of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears. All right, in terms of what he's looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>As we're going to start with the Bears offense against

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers defense, you obviously got to talk about Rashan

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<v Speaker 1>Gary on one end, Preston Smith the outside linebacker around

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<v Speaker 1>the other, and of course Kenny Clark on the interior, Mattiebraflus, circle,

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<v Speaker 1>JayR Alexander. They've got some young players added to that mix. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers don't compute, though the defense has struggled for

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. What's attackable in your opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you always have to start with the Bears

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<v Speaker 4>running game, and if you can block Kenny Clark and

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<v Speaker 4>kind of keep Preston Smith and the other guy you know,

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<v Speaker 4>pushed to the exterior of the offense with contained concerns

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<v Speaker 4>for justin fields and you can open up some of

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<v Speaker 4>those point of attack runs with both Khalil Herbert and

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<v Speaker 4>Roshawn Johnson, then I think that's the best exposure of

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<v Speaker 4>success that you can have right through center field of

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<v Speaker 4>that defense. But when you are going to incorporate pass protection,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you're gonna be wise to just sit

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<v Speaker 4>in the pocket with Justin fields because of the support

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<v Speaker 4>of the crowd, noise, the deficiencies that creates for the

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<v Speaker 4>offensive line getting off the ball all together and on time.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes that takes a toll on your organized pass protection.

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<v Speaker 4>So Justin's gonna have to be dynamic and his athleticism

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<v Speaker 4>and his escapability. But still, if you want to have

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<v Speaker 4>an identity that's figured out even late in the season

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<v Speaker 4>and it is your run game, your run game is

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<v Speaker 4>going to have to be as supportive as it has

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<v Speaker 4>been the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly we cannot forget the first series in Week one.

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<v Speaker 1>The inability to convert on third and fourth down kind

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<v Speaker 1>of became a perpetual issue over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>season at times, and that is a cleanup area for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears got significantly better in many phases, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is one that continues to need to be addressed right well.

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<v Speaker 4>In short yardagin the two plays they ran the first

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<v Speaker 4>game of the season. They gave so much pre identification

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<v Speaker 4>where they were going to run the ball, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you see the defense of the Green Bay Packers condensed

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<v Speaker 4>down and they get inside the exposed lanes of quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>snakes or a snake by Cole Kamet, and then all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, now the defense is in your lane

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<v Speaker 4>that you're trying to create, and it's difficult to move

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<v Speaker 4>guys on those instances. So you have to have a

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<v Speaker 4>variety of plays for short yardage and goal line. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you are going to you a quarterback sneak, it

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<v Speaker 4>has to be instantaneously and it's not with a with

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<v Speaker 4>a controlled snap count that gives the defense more time

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<v Speaker 4>to be organized in the lanes of control. So we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see about what subtle changes that they make the shortyards

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<v Speaker 4>and goal line at the eighteenth week of the season

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<v Speaker 4>as opposed to the first week of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you about that too. And when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the line of scrimmage, are you a proponent then

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're saying is you get to the line

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<v Speaker 1>if you if it's third and one, fourth and one,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to the line of scrimmage goal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you break the huddle first boom, you go, and

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's got to be ready for it. They know they're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be in their stance for an extended

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<v Speaker 4>period of time. And as soon as Justin gets to

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<v Speaker 4>the line of scrimmage, first sound go. And it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be difficult because you know what the crowd is

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<v Speaker 4>going to contribute on third and fourth and one. They're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be insane. So it's not going to be simple.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to take discipline in order to pull that off.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna step away from the game plan talk.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the other side of the ball, of

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, Jordan Love and Aaron Jones and the Fellas.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, our conversation with former Chicago Bear nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five undrafted out of Ohio State, Tom's old rookie teammate

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<v Speaker 1>and longtime friend, Mike tom Zach. He looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>little Tom Cruise right now. He's got the shades. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks good. He has an aged Why is Tom not

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<v Speaker 1>looking like this? He looks more. Tom looks more like

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<v Speaker 1>a senior citizen professor. And you look cool. You got

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<v Speaker 1>the black, you got the black leather jacket going, You

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<v Speaker 1>got the shades. Tom he looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our choice, right, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 12>It's our choice in life to either look good or

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<v Speaker 12>either that or work hard at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, That's why I hung around when Mike when we

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<v Speaker 4>are both young Chicago Bears, because it was right when

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<v Speaker 4>top Gun came out and Mike used to wear those

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<v Speaker 4>Aviator sunglasses, and you know, he used to track a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of attention because of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to like the attention that Mike attracted.

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<v Speaker 12>I was just trying to drive membership down to my parents'

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<v Speaker 12>health club down in Mokena and Jolliett.

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<v Speaker 1>Those of you out there are that are newer to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears and don't remember all the eighty five Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Mike is Chicago born and bred, Calumet City, Thornton

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<v Speaker 1>Fractional North High School, Ohio State, then Bears, then several

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<v Speaker 1>other stops in the National Football League. And are you

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<v Speaker 1>still doing the volunteer assistant coaching at Youngstown State?

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<v Speaker 12>I am, Jeff, and I'm having a lot of fun

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 12>doing It'll be my eighth year coming up here in

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 12>the spring, and have a lot of fun with it,

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 12>getting a chance to inspire young men and that are

0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 12>serving the community well and serving the university.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 12>Jim Trustle has been to con and do it for

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<v Speaker 12>many years, and he retired a year ago in January.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, YU is a good place for me right now,

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<v Speaker 12>and I've enjoyed every minute of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you working with quarterbacks or all players or are

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<v Speaker 1>you just there to lend.

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<v Speaker 2>Support kind of combination?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, for some reason in some way I kind

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 12>of migrate towards the quarterback room, right oh yeah, and

0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 12>kind of getting the here of the offensive coordinator like

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.880
<v Speaker 12>every fan wants to do SAT Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, it's been great.

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<v Speaker 12>I've been advising Doug Phillips, our head coach going on

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 12>his fifth year, and the Missouri Valley Conference. Guys, I

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.400
<v Speaker 12>don't know if you know it, but this weekend, South

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.880
<v Speaker 12>Dakota State versus Montana for the national championship on Saturday,

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 12>and it'll be one competitive battle for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Mike, I'm not gonna dwell on it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna ask you one question about the college uniform because

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 4>our good buddy and teammate Jay Hilgenberg sent out a

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 4>tweet yesterday about his dissatisfaction with the uniform of the

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.360
<v Speaker 4>college player today, and the fact that most of these

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 4>guys look like they're wearing shorts instead of a football uniform.

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Is it something as a coach that you just have

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<v Speaker 4>to go along with to satisfy the kids or are

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<v Speaker 4>you okay with it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not okay with it. Our head coach isn't okay.

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 12>Happens a lot of times, Tom, whether it be high school,

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 12>college or the pros. Either you coach it or you

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 12>allow it. And if you allow it, the locker room

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 12>will take over. As you well know throughout your high school,

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 12>college and professional career. And Jeff, you probably feel the

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 12>same way a lot of things you do in life,

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 12>let alone out of household or running a business. You

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 12>know you got to coach them up consistently. Here's one

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 12>thing I've learned about the college game. Assume they know nothing.

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 12>They want to be told and taught, and you got

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 12>to do it repetitiously because the rosters are turning over

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 12>ever so quickly now in college football.

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>So again, either to coach it or you allow it.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you some of the most educated points made

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 4>that we've heard on this podcast. Now we've been doing

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 4>almost fifty times, which is good to hear, super encouraging, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>But listen, you know, when Jeff introduced you as a

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 4>former Chicago Bear, Ohio State tf North, the whole deal,

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 4>you're also a former Green.

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Bay Packer when we get ready for this rivalry.

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 4>We've always been Chicago Bears, and that's where our roots

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 4>in the entire growth of our career is bred. Outside

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 4>me playing one year for the Dolphins, you know, you

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 4>had a chance to play it on a couple teams

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<v Speaker 4>in the NFL. How do you look at the Bear

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 4>pack Bear Packer rivalry at this point in your life

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 4>as opposed to when we were both in our twenties

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 4>and thirties.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's changed.

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 12>Obviously, the numbers stayed the same, but the names changed

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 12>in the back of the jerseys on both teams. And

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 12>it's been three plus decades since I played for the

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 12>Green Bay Packers, and you know what a treat that

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 12>was for me. You know, I was probably one of

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 12>the first quarterbacks in Chicago Bear history that crossed that

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 12>state line and went north to Green Bay, and I

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 12>was grateful for it. I truly was Indian fante and

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 12>ron Wolf and the ownership group welcomed me up there,

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 12>and I tell you what. The first couple of weeks

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 12>I was in Green Bay, Tom and Jeff I got interrogated.

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 12>I got interrogated by Lindiante, by the offensive coordinator, by

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 12>defensive quarter and Ron Wolf. What the hell are the

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 12>Bears doing down there? Why are they winning so many

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 12>division championships? And that was the mantra for them to

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 12>try to capture. And sure enough, it didn't take him

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 12>too long. Once bar and Mike Coman Holgern got there.

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 12>You know, things changed rather quickly on the side of

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 12>the Green Bay Packers, and it was a tree for me.

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 12>You know, everyone says Ohio State Michigan is the greatest

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 12>rivalry in college sports, but arguably there are many others, right,

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 12>there are many other college games that are equally important.

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 12>But Green Bay Chicago, guys, how many years now, one

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<v Speaker 12>hundred and five maybe I don't know, number four, one

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 12>oh four, yeah, oh my gosh. And how many of

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 12>those you guys have probably kept the you know, two

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 12>dozen or two decades of those right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for me, it's coming up on well twenty

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>seven years. But you know, I graduated from Iowa State

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in eighty December of eighty four, told to go cover

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Bears training camp. And I have cassette tapes at home

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>in boxes. I mean and now and I look back.

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>We're all the same age. Like you know, I'm sixty one.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I believe you are as well. Tommy's sixty and it

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just I was. It was an intimidating bunch in a

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>good way.

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<v Speaker 12>But you know what, I really I realized the rivalry

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 12>was real. There was a guy named Ron Holstrom, Tom remembers,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 12>and he played at Iowa and it was our first

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 12>spring workout and there were three stalls in the in

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 12>the bathroom, three three poopers, if you will, and I'm

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 12>in the far one against the wall. I didn't realize this,

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 12>but there was no toilet paper. Long story short. A

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 12>guy gets in the stall one and I say, hey,

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 12>my man, can you help me out?

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>He goes, who is that? And I said Tom Zech.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>He goes fu Ron holds. He left me hanging. You know.

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 12>That's when he said, hey, you came from the Bears.

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 12>You came from the Bears, So it was real. But again,

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 12>your loyalties are with the colors you wear. And I

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 12>had a good time competing against the Bears for two years.

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 12>I was in Green Bay, and I always remember those

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 12>games as being special on both sides of the sideline.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike, when do you look at quarterback like justin fields

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 4>when you think about, you know, what he did in

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Ohio State and what he's doing in the NFL. What

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 4>is the most attractive part of his game to you?

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 4>As a former Ohio State now a college coach and

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 4>a professional quarterback.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, Tom, this is something you guys have never

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 12>seen before from the broadcast booth. He has thrown off schedule.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 12>He has made more plays off schedule than he's made

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 12>on schedule. And I think you guys know what I mean.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 12>You know, plays call for a play action pass, he

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 12>hits that fifth step and throws the ball. You know

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 12>that might happen forty to thirty percent of the time,

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 12>but the other sixty to seventy percent of the time

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 12>it's off schedule. He's reacting, becoming an athlete, extending to play,

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 12>widening the field still electric, so uncharacteristic because most defenses

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 12>want a guy in the pocket, right They want to

0:28:59.120 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 12>keep him.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>In the pockets.

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<v Speaker 12>So well, you know, as a former Buckey, I wish

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 12>him a long career because I've been holding that belt

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 12>for a long time now, and I hope it's a

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 12>healthy one because he's been banged up, you know, in

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 12>the early part of his career, and he's missed you know,

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 12>a number of games. You guys will know better than I,

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 12>and I just wish him good help and hopefully everything

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 12>works out in Chicago for him. And I wish I

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 12>was a lot more like him. I wish I had

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 12>some of that talent.

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a new wrinkle every week. I mean, you just

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>really know as a broadcaster, and I mentioned this last

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.239
<v Speaker 1>year and Tom Tom's heard me say this. I had

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a hard time catching up to Justin when he started

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the running aspect of his season because he has options.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>He might throw it, he might stop and pop it

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>looks like he's rushing around the end. He'll throw back

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field, and so I never knew

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>what was coming. So I had to kind of slow

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>myself down a little bit. I've caught up to him

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>now in the second year, but it's almost like a

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>defensive player trying to catch up to a starting quarterback,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know when they're a rookie.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, you've had to adapt in a broadcast booth and

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 12>you slowed your broadcast down because you don't know the outcome. Tom,

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 12>you would agree he's an outlier very rarely do you see.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 12>You might have saw Russell Wilson early in his career, right,

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 12>that might have Randall Cunningham take it back, you know,

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 12>three decades Michael Vick. But he is so different than everyone,

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 12>and I enjoy watching the highlights. I don't see a

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 12>lot of games, but I enjoy watching the highlights when

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 12>he performs.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Mike, But as a coach, if you say

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 4>he throws off schedule fifty maybe up to fifty five

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 4>percent of the time, and you're coaching your receivers, you're

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 4>coaching your offensive line, and you're not you know, you're

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 4>you're coaching those guys.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 3>How do you coach them?

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 4>If you talk about a quarterback that doesn't throw on

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 4>schedule into the design of the specific play.

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's a good point, Tom. It's a challenge.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a challenge.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 12>I think everyone in that hallis fall has had to

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 12>adapt on the offensive side of the ball. They've had

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 12>to tell the offensive line sustain your blocks. You know,

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 12>I know you don't have eyes in the back of

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 12>your head, but you know, slow your pace down. You know,

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 12>best thing you do is just play man to man

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 12>defense with you know the opposition, and just hope that

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 12>you're doing the right thing.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>But you know they've been they.

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 12>Have been clicking, right, they've been clicking the last couple

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 12>of weeks, three weeks, you know, with their offense. And

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 12>I think they're okay with all schedule stuff because he

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 12>gets you out of trouble and he gets you in

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 12>a position where either we're going to go forward on

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 12>fourth down or you're gonna go.

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Ahead and punt the ball away and play defense.

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Have you had the opportunity to watch Jordan Love since

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Week eleven? Sixteen touchdowns, one interception?

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 12>Well, yeah, I tell you that's another dude that is

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 12>really playing out of his skin.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 12>You know, who would have thought that I'd like to

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 12>have those numbers. Sixteen touchdowns, one interception. I mean, that's

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 12>that's kind of an outlier for the last.

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:45.959
<v Speaker 2>Eleven weeks, right. But you know, one thing you look

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>at Jeff, you know.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 12>His durability, He's remained healthy, He's had other complimentary players

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 12>on his side of the ball. There's a great confidence

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 12>right now the way they're playing so It's going to

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 12>be a competitive battle, and I think both these organizations

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 12>want to go out on the high note. So it'll

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 12>be a sixteen minute game for sure, and a lot

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 12>of blood left in the field.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Mike, So the quarterback position, you look at farvar

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 4>to Rogers, Rogers the love do you think that the

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 4>template of success for the quarterback position is to draft

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback and have a good fortune of him sitting

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 4>behind the quality of the quarterback for a couple of years.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 12>These quarterbacks nowadays, Tom, don't want to sit. You know,

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 12>it's pretty obvious that they're going to play the younger

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 12>guy if they can. Green Bay was a luxury, a

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 12>great luxury, and the way they transition, you know there was,

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 12>you know, kind of a plug and play. The stuff

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 12>they're doing in Cleveland right now with their organization, with

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 12>all the injuries they've had, and I look at the

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 12>same scenario in Green Bay. You know, they had opportunities to,

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 12>you know, do something. They believed in their quarterbacks.

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Tom.

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 12>That's one thing that organization has done. They've been loyal

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 12>and they trust the process of getting these quarterbacks to

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 12>play at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>That Active on X otherwise known as Twitter, and I've

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>noticed these, uh, these sayings that you've put out there,

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>these uh, these thoughts, and I jot and I read

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>them every day because I I'm interested in them, and

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it does speak to me. So here's

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>one I think it was Today's Instead of crafting extensive

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>lists of resolutions, we may want to choose a single

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>word to guide our year. Stick toitiveness with exclamations, and

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>then you punctuate each one of your phrases every day

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<v Speaker 1>with onward, so onward and upward. And you know, I

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>just I just learned yesterday that only one percent of

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the population in this world followed through or are held

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>accountable for their resolutions that they put out there. So

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I like to stick to itives. Go what what has

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>motivated you to do this?

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Is this?

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Is this something that you've always are? Are these your

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>original thoughts? And now you know why you put it

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>out there?

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great question, Jeff, real good question.

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 12>And you know, we can draw a different inspiration at

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 12>different times in our life, whether it be a tragedy,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 12>whether it be you want to inspire other people. And

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 12>think the older you get in life, the more you

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 12>realize it's not about you. It's about serving others to

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 12>whatever capacity, and being around these college student athletes. You know,

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 12>they're so mobile, they're media savvy, they're putting out stuff.

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 12>And when I started doing that, a lot of players

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 12>would come up to me and say, hey, Coach, I

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 12>appreciate that today talk to me. It really meant a

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 12>lot to me. And if you touch one person, it

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 12>could start a ripple effect. Right, It's like throwing a

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 12>rock in a lake. You know, you see the ripple

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 12>effect and everything. So you know, I draw inspiration from

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 12>from people that I've read about. I draw internally inspiration

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 12>to share, you know, and text messages, and you know,

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 12>there's a message out there that we're not We.

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Haven't arrived yet. We haven't arrived.

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 12>And that's why I always say on because in football

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 12>and in life, it's the next play, it's the next series,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 12>it's the next day, it's the next opportunity. And that's

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 12>the way I correlate my life. After three three downs,

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 12>you don't get a first down. You got to punt

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 12>the football or go for it on fourth down. So

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 12>it's always onward and upward.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I have one more, tom, let me read one uh,

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and this is this is true for all of us.

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I hope you're living the life you want, and if not,

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I hope you have the courage to turn around and

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>start again. And that could be used in any any

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>any walk of life, any business, any personal situation. And

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that one's big on me and Tom this one too. Uh,

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>don't exercise to be thin, exercise to be strong. It's Tom,

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he's been. My daughter is a competitive weightlifter now and

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>she's all over me. Dad. You gotta start lifting weights.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Stop worrying about eating pasta and start lifting weights.

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 12>Hey, sometimes it takes a message, the same message from

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 12>a different voice that will Yeah, you know, touch your heart.

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 12>And you know Tom and I, you know, we grew

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 12>up working out a lot, my parents being in the

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 12>health club, my brother being in the health club industry.

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 12>A lot to be said for that. But the older

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 12>we get Jeff in our sixties. Pliability, stick to itiveness, discipline.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 12>Those are three strong words that you can use through

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 12>every day of your life. But how often can you

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 12>use those?

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 12>It's building, building, building, building, and a discipline kind of

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:25.280
<v Speaker 12>just as your foundation.

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 4>But you know I talked to I talk about him

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.760
<v Speaker 4>multiple times weekly in my life, and I think Clyde

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 4>Emerck had as much of an influence on Mike Tomzack's

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 4>life as he did on my life.

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 3>And I remember Clyde to the.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 4>Before he passed away talking about Mike Tomzak doing sixty

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 4>one dips and just the displays of strength that as

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback Mike put on.

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 3>And I think, when you have a guy like Clyde.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Emrick that can be such a positive influence in your life.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 4>I think when I listen to to the message that

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 4>Mike puts out there, almost listening to a Clyde Emrick

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 4>type uh message deliver, you know, and all the things

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 4>that he said to us repeatedly throughout our life, and

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 4>how important he was in our future life.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Great point. Jeez, what a mentor.

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 12>I miss Clyde daily and he was an inspiration now

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 12>only to a lot of former players or people in life,

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 12>but the Bears organization.

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 12>Six decades? I believe, yeah, I think six decades and

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 12>just a huge impact. And you know he was. He

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 12>was the kind of master link to that chain for

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 12>a number of years. And hopefully somebody is picking up

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 12>the picking up what he left off on and carrying

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 12>the torch for him. But you know it's a great point, Tom,

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 12>wonderful point about Clyde. And you know one thing Tom, Tom,

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 12>good lift, but.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Good lift hips hips.

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 4>You know, I always say when if your bio starts,

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 4>the first man in the world too, whatever it says

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 4>after that, if it's a positive, it's going to inspire

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people. And Clyde was that way, the

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 4>first man in the world to lift four hundred pounds

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 4>overhead under a two hundred pound body weight, and what

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 4>everything yet you had to do in order to accomplish that.

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 3>People don't see that.

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.760
<v Speaker 4>They only read the sentence, and it kind of interest

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 4>you in what he was able to accomplish. And I

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 4>think that's what every way program across the country, high school,

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.879
<v Speaker 4>pro college, whatever it is, that's the influence they try

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 4>to have.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Mike st a lot in college football.

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 12>You know, one of the most valued assistants in any

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 12>college program is a strength and performance coach.

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Without a doubt, Mike, you had a long career. Did

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you think you were going to Oh?

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 12>I was a lot like Tom in some regards. You know,

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 12>going to work every day thinking that you might be cut,

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 12>having a poor performance on Sunday, you know, four interceptions

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 12>against San Francisco acquiring a nickname Lotto picked four.

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, you know some of those meetings, you know.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>But I learned this a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 12>My dad always said this, it's never as bad as

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 12>you think it is, and it's never as good as

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 12>you think it was. And he said that early in

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 12>life to a lot of players that he coached. When

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 12>I was in fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth grade, and then

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 12>when I got into high school, it kind of was

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 12>that mantra. You know, so don't get too excitable, stay humble,

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 12>keep on working at your craft. And that's one thing

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 12>that I did. I worked at my craft. I trusted

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 12>my confidence, and I firmly believed that I was a

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 12>leader of men. The ten greatest people I met in

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 12>the huddle were the guys that were in that huddle

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 12>every play, every series. And my job was to motivate

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 12>and go out there and let my skill take over.

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't do it.

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 12>You know, My biggest growth year, Jeff and Tom was

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 12>my rookie year with the Bears, when Jim McMahon and

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 12>Ed Hughes sat me down and said, hey, this game

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 12>is simple. Just watch the safeties the two dudes that

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 12>are underneath the goalpost. One's are free, ones are strong.

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 12>See how they rotate. They're all on a string. And

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 12>once that, once I absorbed all that, the game slowed

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 12>down tremendously for me, and I knew I could play

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 12>this game at a high level. And at the end

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 12>of my career, I can always look back and say

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 12>I was the winningest quarterback in Chicago Bear history, being

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 12>a free agent out of calum At City, Illinois.

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a very proud, proud statement.

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 12>I don't like to be boastful, but a lot of

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 12>players helped me along the way when to get that,

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 12>you know, title, Jeff and I was shocked when my

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 12>son shared that with me six months ago. I was

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 12>shocked that I was the winning his quarterback.

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I truly was.

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>He Mike was the last remaining member of the eighty

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>five team to be on an active roster in the end.

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was going to say.

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 4>For going from free agent to the longest tenured member

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 4>of the eighty five Super Bowl team, that's one hell

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 4>of an accomplishment. When you think about some of the

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 4>young guys, like that was my first year with the Bears.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 4>You think of some of the other the rookies on

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 4>the team at that time, and Mike, Mike dow last

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 4>us all. You know, that's that's you know, there's a

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 4>lot of jerseys hanging on the wall.

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Now, you made it to you made it to two thousand, right,

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you made it too, But I think you were with

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the Lions.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I made a two thousand.

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 12>Brooke my leg the third preseason game, got a pay

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 12>got a paycheck for sixteen weeks. Got a phone call

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:25.720
<v Speaker 12>from Matt Millen, the new uh general manager of Detroit Lions,

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 12>Steve Mariucci's protege, and Matt told me your services are

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 12>no longer needed, even though you have one year left

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 12>on your contract. We're gonna let you go and bring

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 12>Jim Harbaugh in. And I said, Matt, I'm a fighter,

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 12>I'm a competitor. Bring us, bring me in, let me

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 12>compete with him. He goes, no, we've already decided. And

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 12>I said, Matt, with all due respect, I hope you

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 12>never won a game. And I hung up the phone,

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 12>and they went, oh in sixteen oh my, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 12>I love it.

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah.

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 12>Tom knows and Jeff, you've been around enough of these players.

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 2>It never ends well.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 12>No, you know, I don't care in Chicago, Yeah, it

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 12>kept you know, in Green Bay now you know, Cleveland, Cleveland,

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 12>bo Pittsburgh. You know, it never ends well because when

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 12>somebody terminates your contract, you got to find a job.

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know he'll get And I always talk

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 12>all the time. It have been better for them to

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 12>cut us as free agents our rookie year so we

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 12>could start our real life.

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Right wow. But that's uh, that's stick to itiveness to

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a t yeah by you right there. Wow, that is

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic story. See these podcasts. We're new to this

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>this year. Right this is episode forty eight of the

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Bears et cetera podcast, And we sure do appreciate you listening.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate our guests. And we've just out of happenstance.

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought comes into Tom's mind and we start and

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I threw your name out there. Hey, can you get

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.439
<v Speaker 1>a hold of Big Mic We be eve been getting

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of quarterbacks and the stories are unbelievable. We

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Dan Fouts thought he'd never even make it out of

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>his third year, you know, but yeah, you know, the

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>coaching saved his career. They were ready to right you

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>get the right mix. You were six years in Pittsburgh, right,

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 1>who are your seven seven? Okay, who are your offense?

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, we've had three of them.

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 12>We had Ron Earhart, we had Chen Gaily, Yeah, Ray Sherman,

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 12>and then Mike Malarkey. So in the seven years there

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.879
<v Speaker 12>was a lot of turnover and offensive coordinators and different philosophy,

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 12>but a lot like justin fields.

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Is going through.

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So how does that impact you?

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 12>Know, it's funny because the way Joe Flacco has been playing,

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 12>I think a lot of that stuff is overrated. As

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 12>far as the offensive coordinator. You know, you have a

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 12>great skill, go out there and perform. You need to

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 12>have a great supporter in your left ear to tell you,

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 12>I'm gonna put you in the right play, You're going

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 12>to succeed, You're gonna do fantastic, You're gonna lead these

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 12>guys down the field. And you have to have that repeatedly.

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 12>And I had some coaches in my career that were

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 12>that way, and it gave me the great belie to

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 12>go out there that everything is going to work out well.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes it did, but most of the time it did.

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 12>So you need somebody that you could trust and It

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.879
<v Speaker 12>takes a while developed, trust guys, you know, it really does,

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 12>especially when you're at the quarterback position. I've had a

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 12>number of quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators that if things

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 12>went bad in the field for me, they would turn

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 12>the other cheek, right, you know, they would like run

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 12>up a tree.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, okay, you son of a bitch.

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 12>You know, I had your back for many, many, many

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 12>weeks and many years, and now you're gonna run up

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 12>a tree. But by and large, nothing to be this

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.919
<v Speaker 12>grunt all about. I enjoyed everything, every every training camp,

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 12>every snap, every practical joke, every opportunity to get to

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 12>know my teammates better.

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:42.919
<v Speaker 2>And it's been a great ride.

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 12>And I'm just fortunate enough to be able to talk

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 12>to you guys still and still be alive, you know,

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 12>be quite honest with you. A lot of our teammates

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 12>in eighty five and throughout that run in Chicago and

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 12>no longer with this, and some are struggling today and

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 12>it's just great to hear you guys voice very familiar voices.

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Last real funny story, Mike and I were the Bears

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 4>are playing the Steelers, and Mike and I were walking

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 4>through the lower part of the Steelers Stadium because they

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 4>had an alumni weekend. And Aston Kircher, I think that's

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 4>how you today his name, the guy from the seventies show.

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 4>He was walking in and Mike wanted to go up

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:15.839
<v Speaker 4>and say hi to him.

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Before Mike got to him, he saw Mike and he

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 3>goes Mike. Tom's at from the Super Bowl shovel. Oh

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 3>my gosh.

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 4>So you know, I mean, you think of just the

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 4>route in the course and the people that get to

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 4>know you throughout the course of time. It's just, you know,

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 4>an awesome story book life.

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 12>It really is Tom and and you know Aston Coocher,

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 12>a huge bear spend I stood on the sideline with

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 12>him and uh you know his current wife, Uh saw

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 12>on the bear sideline.

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, I remember that.

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I have a picture with him in the background. I

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>was too shocked. I was too I was too afraid

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>to say. Got to get a pick with you, right.

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.760
<v Speaker 2>And you gotta make choices in life, Jeff. And sometimes

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 2>those are still you know, you can go to the

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 2>edge of the cliff and sometimes you gotta a jumper

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 2>or take a leap of faith.

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 12>But you know, Tom a good friend of ours. Here

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 12>in Youngstown. Boom Boom Mancini. Yeah, well, here's a guy

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 12>we met, you know, in the mid eighties, you know,

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 12>through Tom Drees and everything, and Boom Boom's been you know,

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 12>familiar face, you know, to be associated with an occasion

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 12>here in Youngstown.

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know, he's a.

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 12>Guy that absolutely loves the Chicago Bears. I mean, he

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 12>tells me stories and his hands go as quick as

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 12>his mouth goes, and he's just a fun, fun.

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Dude to be here.

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Roddy really is.

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Jeff.

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I know, I know that you have to go, but

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 4>next time we're on the podcast, remind me I have

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 4>a funny story about Boom Boom Mancini, and we have

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 4>to get him to be on the pocket.

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll get him on the podcast for sure. All Right,

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>real quick, we do have to go, and you're busy

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to Mike, but we appreciate this for those, again, the

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>younger crowd. We got a younger audience these days as well.

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You played in the Super Bowl kick off return correct

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 1>punt punting, Oh punt team? All right, break it down

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:03.280
<v Speaker 1>for me, what the hell happened?

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 12>Well, you know, the last thing you want to do,

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 12>as any player that you get to at a certain

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.360
<v Speaker 12>level of life and professionally playing the Super Bowl and

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 12>have a d NP.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Nice to your name did not play.

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 12>And here we are, four minutes and forty three seconds

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 12>left in the game, and Steve Fuller's hand the football offer,

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 12>you know, to Calvin Thomas or Thomas Sanders, and I'm

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 12>looking to my left and looking to my right, and

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.760
<v Speaker 12>I'm thinking, damn, I'm the only player hadn't played yet.

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 12>So I'm mentioning closer to the field and Steve Kay's

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 12>are standing next to me.

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, case, I'm going in. He goes where

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I said, you wait and see special teams.

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 12>As soon as fourth down came, Jeff I sprinted across

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 12>the field like I stole something. Told Sean Gale, who

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 12>happened to be the gunner on that side of the field.

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 12>I said, hey, coach Kaes wants to see it as

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 12>a former teammate. Sean said, all right, man.

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 12>Willie Claiborne all told defensive back lines up across me.

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 12>He goes, what's up, And as Susie said what's up,

0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 12>the ball was snapped and I'm running down the field

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 12>and he shoulders older with me. So I grab his

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 12>face mask, unfortunately, and throw him down. I figured, you know,

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 12>the former wrestler, the body goes where the head goes.

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 2>And here comes irving front of.

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 12>My way and I kind of sashet him, push him

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 12>out of bounds or whatever. And watching the replay and

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 12>the big screen, I'm all the way to the sideline,

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 12>the bare sideline, Dick. It hits me right in the chest,

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 12>that nice little shiver, and he goes, what are you doing?

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 12>I said, coach, I don't have time to tell you.

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:27.919
<v Speaker 12>I got twenty family members. They're all from Chicago Land.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 12>This is a dream of mine to play in the

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 12>Super Bowl for my favorite team. An he questions, He goes, yeah,

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 12>you're in the next series.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I would.

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 12>I would have never kept the game ball because I

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 12>knelt down the last play and in the locker room,

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 12>my bag and I came back out and celebrate with

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 12>Tom and Jay and everyone, and so you had to

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 12>do it.

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>So you took the game ball.

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 12>Oh, it was the last one to head it on

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 12>a kneel down. Yeah, where is that game ball right now?

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 12>It's sitting on my mantle.

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 1>That is a fan task store. Yeah, yes, it's it's

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised. I mean, how did you not get you know,

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>reamed for it is the question.

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, he got called for face mask. I know he

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 4>did throw the pedal.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, you guys really were forty six to ten.

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, six to ten.

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know how coaches are here, You know how

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>coaches are.

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 12>Coaches want to coach right, Coaches want to coach and correct.

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 12>And I looked at it as a positive thing because

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 12>you know, I was Dicka's favorite quarterback and every year

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 12>I call him on his birthday and said, this is

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 12>your favorite quarterback and he says, you're right, You're my

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.879
<v Speaker 12>favorite quarterback. Because I would say I saved his ass

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 12>when he had a heart attack on that Wednesday.

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you a funny story real quick. I go

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 2>up to Hallas Hall. We had a terrible game against

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 2>New England. But back and forth the.

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 12>Oyo McMahon, Tom Zach, McMahon, Tom Zach, then all the

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 12>horror ball blah blah blah. I didn't shower after the game.

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.800
<v Speaker 12>I'm ready to quit football. I'm ready to quit football.

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.360
<v Speaker 12>In nineteen eighty seven, I'm tired of Dick all this stuff,

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 12>and I'm driving up to Hallas Hall Monday morning and

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 12>a WBBM breaks in and says, we've got a developing story.

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 12>Mike Dicka had a heart attack. I said, yes, yes,

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 12>there is a holy spirit. He's been listening to me

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 12>the straightness' rear end out.

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 2>And that was on a Monday. Wednesday.

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 12>I went to see him at Lake Forest Hospital only

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 12>say kid, you're my favorite. I'm never gonna yell at

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 12>you again, never gonna yell at you again. We went

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 12>out and to play the Redskins. Remember at toms On

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 12>that Sunday. Yeah, probably one of the better game. Our

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.879
<v Speaker 12>team offensively, had a great game and never had any

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 12>more issues with Dicka.

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, great stuff. You also quarterback the Alays. You also

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.720
<v Speaker 1>quarterback the Fog Bowl. You won her first ten starts

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>at quarterback. That set an NFL record until Big Ben

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>broke it. You had the highest scoring game in the

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>history of three Rivers Stadium, your quarterback the Steelers against Tennessee.

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>So much great stuff, a great long career, a very

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>productive life, and your love of the game still pouring through.

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you being Mike.

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, appreciate you guys.

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Bear down, bear down, all right, all right, Tom people probably, well,

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody who loves the Bears and eighty five Bears know

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the history of you and Mike. But

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 1>you guys had TNTs back in the day. Tell us

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>about that for people don't know what them you guys.

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>You guys were restaurant tour bar owners. And it was

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a popular place, wasn't it.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 4>It was a successful restaurant in Joliet T and T

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 4>stood for Thayre and Tom Zach. The telephone numbered ended

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 4>in eighteen fifty seven.

0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 3>His number was eighteen. Mine was fifty seven.

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:36.359
<v Speaker 4>And it was a restaurant that was predominantly run by

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 4>my brother and my mom.

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 3>My mom and my brother, however you want to put it.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 4>And it was a great place at the time, and

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.280
<v Speaker 4>we put a lot of time.

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 3>And effort into it. We are down here weekly.

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 4>We came and we did a cable TV show out

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 4>of here every Tuesday during the regular season. We would

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 4>come and sit behind the counter and sign autographs for

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:00.320
<v Speaker 4>hours at a time.

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 3>So it's something that we took a lot of pride

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 3>in and uh.

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 4>The really the theme of the restaurant lasted into just

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:11.359
<v Speaker 4>about five to eight weeks ago when we ended up

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 4>selling the final version that ended up being Fair Brothers,

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Deli and Grill. But Mike and I he because he

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 4>was from the Frankfurt area, which is about eleven miles

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 4>away from Joliet, and he went to high school in

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 4>the area. I went to the high school in the area,

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 4>and we took a lot of pride in it and

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:31.839
<v Speaker 4>it was a fun place that.

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Was supported by the community.

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 4>The location was built across the street from my high

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 4>school football field, and uh, you know it was it

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 4>was a mainstay in the area, and I thought it

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 4>was really important if we were ever going to get

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 4>involved in something, to do something that could help the

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 4>support of our hometowns.

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly what it did.

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 11>Who came up with the idea I did because the

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:01.319
<v Speaker 11>restaurant that we put it in used to be a

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 11>restaurant called Sirloin or Pub and my mom was a

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 11>waitress there her whole life as we were growing.

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 4>Up, and it was a place with a big fireplace

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 4>in the middle, high vaulted ceilings, fun And then we

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 4>went in there and we renovated it. The same guy

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.839
<v Speaker 4>owned it that owned it when my mom worked there,

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 4>and we we leased the restaurant for a period of time,

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 4>did the renovations. It had a big parking lot, it

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:34.839
<v Speaker 4>was on a busy street corner in Joliet, and I

0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 4>think it's kind of you know, Difka had a restaurant

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 4>and with the popularity of the team, and we were

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:45.840
<v Speaker 4>both local guys and so we kind of, you know,

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.360
<v Speaker 4>met with a group of people. And my dad was

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 4>a super handy guy that helped in the renovations and everything.

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.760
<v Speaker 4>And my mom was in the restaurant business her whole life.

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:57.959
<v Speaker 4>And my brother was an on the spot type of guy,

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:01.600
<v Speaker 4>and so, you know, the restaurant business is a difficult

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 4>is a difficult business, and all due respect to all

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 4>successful restaurant owners in the country, it was a great

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.760
<v Speaker 4>learning experience and it was a lot of fun for

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:13.720
<v Speaker 4>me and my family.

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.319
<v Speaker 1>The fun conversation with Mike, and he seems like he's

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 1>in a great place. He's got a lot of knowledge,

0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's given back, he's given back to football. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's certainly the son of a coach, a prominent coach

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<v Speaker 1>at that and in a prominent career in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. He's done a lot, he does. He looks great,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's always always good to see some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys from the eighty five team. That's where I got

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<v Speaker 1>my start covering sports in this town was training camp

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<v Speaker 1>and platvill And so you guys were mythical figures already.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you know more you want this Ron.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike's dad, Ron Tomsack, as you mentioned, was a successful

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 4>high school coach, and he also owned a health club,

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<v Speaker 4>a fitness club. His brother, younger brother, Steve, owns a

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<v Speaker 4>health club fitness club here in the area in his

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<v Speaker 4>whole town. And his son plays for Mike tom Zach

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<v Speaker 4>at Youngstown State as a receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Mike's.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother, his other brother, Ron Tomzak, is a college football official.

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<v Speaker 1>And the nephew is a very good kicker. Yes, take

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<v Speaker 1>All right, back into the Bears. Let's look now at

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears defense and what they're going to expect from

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<v Speaker 1>a young, very talented group of receivers that has a

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<v Speaker 1>hot quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I think Bears defensively, they're bringing in

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<v Speaker 4>an entirely different focused defense that they had Week one.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're taking an entirely different team from first level,

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<v Speaker 4>second level to third level. I think they have more

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<v Speaker 4>players on the defensive line that come in there at

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<v Speaker 4>a fresh rotation, and I think that can take a

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 4>toll on their offensive line if they're had to make

0:55:57.280 --> 0:56:02.359
<v Speaker 4>changes throughout the season here. So when you're looking at

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<v Speaker 4>a Bears defense that is going to be in tune

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<v Speaker 4>with the snap count of Jordan Love, I think they

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<v Speaker 4>can get a better get off on the ball. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they can put the offensive line in a more

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<v Speaker 4>backpedal type position that can make the decision process by

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<v Speaker 4>Jordan Love even more sped up. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what the status of Watson is, their big receiver that

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<v Speaker 4>they brought aboard, if he's going to be healthy or not,

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 4>but he has big playability. Reid has big playability. The

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 4>tight end position has been able to help him. They

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<v Speaker 4>still have Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon. However, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that the defense or the offense of the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 4>Packers is facing an entirely different defense than they faced

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<v Speaker 4>Week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that the Bears right now are holding

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>opponents rushing game better than the eighty five Bears defense?

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<v Speaker 4>They run the ball a lot less nowadays than they

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<v Speaker 4>did in eighty five. I mean, there's all these reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to compare.

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<v Speaker 4>However, the Bears defense has improved at such a.

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<v Speaker 3>Dramatic rate that it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Surprise me that they're turning teams into teams that have

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<v Speaker 4>to throw the ball more than they have the luxury

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<v Speaker 4>of running the ball. And when you see it against

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<v Speaker 4>some of the opponents that they faced as of recent

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<v Speaker 4>especially the Detroit Lions, who has the one two punch

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<v Speaker 4>of their running game, the Bears have done a great

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<v Speaker 4>job against it. And I think this is probably the

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<v Speaker 4>most formidable front seven that they're going to face since

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<v Speaker 4>Aaron Jones has been a part of the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>I got hurt in the opener, ran off to the hamstring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's always been problematic, all right, Tom, You know

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 1>there's many a game you can't just focus on one.

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm focusing on making sure you protect the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>taking the ball away, but I'm also in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>formulating a plan here. You better have a quick start.

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>If you have a fizzled start, that place gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little crazy. And yeah, Packers' feet off of that, I

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>don't care if it's Far, if it's Rogers or now

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<v Speaker 1>Love got to get a quick start, got a quick

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<v Speaker 1>start because in their minds, gosh, we did it. Did

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<v Speaker 1>this happen last year against Detroit? We got knocked out

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs. Now it's a different team. That team

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was expected to do great things. This one was not.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've kind of arrived ahead of schedule a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and have a chance here to win their ninth

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<v Speaker 1>game and go to the playoffs as a late six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven seed. So I just hope the Bears really

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<v Speaker 1>start fast, like be on it, you know, be crisp,

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<v Speaker 1>be clean, and don't make yourself dig a hole that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to now try to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of. Late in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, they better take a look at last

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 4>week's game plan because the Atlanta Falcons missed two field

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<v Speaker 4>goals to open up the game. And if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about starting fast, Okay, if you hold them

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<v Speaker 4>to three, I think that's a win by the Bears defense,

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<v Speaker 4>But you can't give them the opportunity to get in

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<v Speaker 4>the red zone and convert it into a touchdown. Then

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you have the crowd involved in

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<v Speaker 4>the game and you're fighting an uphill battle of the

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<v Speaker 4>aggressiveness of the defense. And I'll tell you this one

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<v Speaker 4>of the asterisk points of this game. When Trent and

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<v Speaker 4>Gil has to punt, he better be good because I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think the punting game for the Bears over the

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<v Speaker 4>last few weeks has been the best part of their

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<v Speaker 4>special teams. So when you're in position where you can

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<v Speaker 4>have a punt that makes a Green Bay start possession

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<v Speaker 4>inside the ten yard line, or can kick the ball

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<v Speaker 4>out of bounds to have a long field.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not all about offense and defense. It's about

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<v Speaker 4>the contributions of the special teams. And I know the Bears.

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<v Speaker 4>When the Bears do punt, they can't allow their punt

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<v Speaker 4>returner to have significant first down contributions.

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<v Speaker 3>To the start of the drive.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's going to take the Bears offense, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>starting starting fast, And Okay, it's like this, so the

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<v Speaker 4>Bears have taken the ball if they win the coin toss,

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<v Speaker 4>and last week when Atlanta won the coin toss, they

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<v Speaker 4>took the ball first. When you look at Bears starting fast,

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<v Speaker 4>do you want the Bears to keep the ball if

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<v Speaker 4>they get if they win the coin toss, or do

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<v Speaker 4>you want to give the ball to Jordan Love and

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<v Speaker 4>put your defense on the field first, Because.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think I want a significant decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I want to take the ball for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>You do, Okay, I'm coming in with some swagger. I've

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<v Speaker 1>won seven of twelve. I got a jazzed up group

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that have played hard all season long. They're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing every single day about oh gosh, can you knock

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers out of the playoffs? And the messaging is,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you agree or disagree, is we're worrying about just

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing. We want to win for us and

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<v Speaker 1>build a platform to the future, even though this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a different roster in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd say, you know, is it risky? Sure, it's risky.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a first down blitz that knocks the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>scoop and score. And then I'm gonna be very upset

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<v Speaker 1>with myself.

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<v Speaker 3>For saying that question about that same thing though.

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<v Speaker 4>So the balls take the Bears take the ball first,

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<v Speaker 4>So does Luke Getsy think, Okay, I know what Green

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<v Speaker 4>Bay's thinking. This is all I want to do or

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<v Speaker 4>does Luke Getsy say hey, I know what our offense does, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this is what I want want to do. Sometimes, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 4>when you get caught in these scenarios where you get

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<v Speaker 4>an ex coach that's familiar with the products, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 4>start thinking too much. But I think Luke has done

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<v Speaker 4>a really nice job of designing first possession drives. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that piques my interest too. If you say, Okay, Luke,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you want to do? We can take the

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<v Speaker 4>ball first. Do you feel that you're confident about your

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<v Speaker 4>first scripted plays, that you know a combination of what

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<v Speaker 4>the Bears are, you know their strong points are right

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<v Speaker 4>now in how to take advantage of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I need I need wins on my first first

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<v Speaker 1>possession here. I need win winning plays. I need that

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<v Speaker 1>confidence to go in there. Because you're going in with confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let it get muted right out of the gates.

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<v Speaker 4>The first game of the year, you got Alan Williams

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<v Speaker 4>calling defenses. Now you got Matt Eberflus. The first game

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<v Speaker 4>of the year, you had Luke Getsy calling offensive plays,

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<v Speaker 4>and now you've got Luke Gatzi calling plays in the

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<v Speaker 4>eighteenth game of the year. That's almost an entire lifetime. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>for an offensive coordinator for the length of one season.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom, it's a I mean it's a different team I have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a different team. This is a different This is

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<v Speaker 1>not the Week one Bears. Nope, Nope, not by a

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<v Speaker 1>long shot. Busy Heart Seltzer, the official Heart Seltzer of

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears. All right, Tom, we're going to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up here. Great show, by the way, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. Can't believe we've done forty eight of

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<v Speaker 1>these and we've got.

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<v Speaker 4>One more question for it on the profession, on the

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<v Speaker 4>professional side of it. So your your flip chart that

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<v Speaker 4>you make when you do a broadcast, second to none.

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<v Speaker 3>I got more information than you can possibly use. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you make a new flip chart since it's week eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Or always a fresh one?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So I was reading my flip chart this morning that

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<v Speaker 4>I made week one, and it's interesting to see within

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<v Speaker 4>that period of time, who wasn't there, who is there,

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<v Speaker 4>who's not playing, who's now earned the starting.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you learned? What have you learned? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done my board yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, Watson was injured the first game of

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<v Speaker 4>the year, and now there's speculation that he will be

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<v Speaker 4>back on the field come Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>There a lot of Bachtiari is not there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the offensive line as a whole, you know, there

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of injuries and stuff and just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just something when you talk about there's a whole life

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<v Speaker 4>in between week one and week eighteen. It's funny when

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<v Speaker 4>you can read the charts that you made week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wait till training camp when we get started again.

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<v Speaker 1>Things look so weird, that's for sure, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to Mike tom Zeck. As you heard earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bears et cetera podcast here and there, I

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<v Speaker 1>told you about his his Twitter x comments every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a couple more because they are really good. They're

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<v Speaker 1>really good, and I've been I've been reading them for weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a critical attitude toward my own faults and

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<v Speaker 1>a tolerant one towards the faults of others. And he

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<v Speaker 1>always punctuates with onward that that's a good one for

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<v Speaker 1>both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, you're right, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you and I are not tolerant even of each other. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>right we can get under each other's skin. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one, this one. This is Chris. This one,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is crystallized Tom Thayer. This is all about Tom Thayer. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not bad, but maybe it's not the exact. But

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<v Speaker 1>speak the truth, even if your voice shakes, because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you get angry, but you speak the truth. Onward, Tom, Onward, Onward.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears fans listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I admire Mike and I'm glad to see that he's

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<v Speaker 4>giving us some of his knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's impressive, it really is. And the and the

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what's even more is the volunteer. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get into that, but the volunteer aspect for eight

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<v Speaker 1>years as opposed to getting a paid position in college.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite the that's quite the love of the game

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<v Speaker 1>and giving back, Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's I think it's the admiration for the kids that

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<v Speaker 4>he's working with as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, Bears fans, you can be there for live NFL

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot more in one game, which happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be the finale from Your Chicago Bears on Sunday starting

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<v Speaker 1>at three twenty five. You can hear it on ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand and the Bears Radio Network, Myself, Tom Thayer,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jason McKee as we wrap up yet another season together.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm right. I think we're going to learn

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<v Speaker 1>a lot one way or another about the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>in this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, I'm already so angst that when I get on

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<v Speaker 4>that bus after the game, I want to be I

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<v Speaker 4>want to have.

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<v Speaker 3>A smile on my face. It looks like I have

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<v Speaker 3>a hanger in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's how much I want to be smiling

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<v Speaker 4>because I know how I'm going to be if it's

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<v Speaker 4>the other way around.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, a couple of years back, when Jaquem

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<v Speaker 1>Grant returned to punt for a touchdown and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a go pro in our booth, it's not always there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears decide when to do that or not. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm losing my mind and the Bears are losing the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom's just watching and he's not even moving a muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Golick in the booth next to us is laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's seeing me go crazy, and he's pumping his fist

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<v Speaker 1>like way to go. Tom's inconsolable. That's how he is

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<v Speaker 1>at a Bears Packers game. And you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want it in any other way. I just love

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<v Speaker 1>the raw motion and the feeling because hey, nobody's invested

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<v Speaker 1>more than you guys in the Bears, Packers and the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, all right, we'll have it for you and

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<v Speaker 1>our next Bears, Etc. Podcast on Tuesday of next week.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll recap the season and look forward to the future.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a wild, wild future for the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears. Thanks for listening, everybody, please subscribe now the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears official app, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcast. Tom take us home, will you?

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<v Speaker 3>Goll Bears?

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, Thanks for listening.