Speaker 1: Hi, Bobby, Hi day, you want to go for a ride?
Speaker 2: Sure again, Bobby in the Bobby.
Speaker 1: That emptastic. It's fantastic. You come.
Speaker 3: Let me.
Speaker 4: Imagination, that is your creation. Let's go party.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, good mom's bad choices.
Speaker 5: I'm Erica and I'm Mela and it's Wednesday. Happy hump Day,
Speaker 5: Happy hump Day.
Speaker 1: I love hump Day. I love to hump, but I
Speaker 1: haven't humped in like two months.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Jamila's really taken the detox challenge the
Speaker 5: next level.
Speaker 1: I have totally failed.
Speaker 5: I was like on my high horse with our detox
Speaker 5: challenge and totally failed. And I talked to my bay
Speaker 5: and I we were talking about this today actually, and
Speaker 5: he was like, well, if you wanted to start.
Speaker 1: Again, we could, and I.
Speaker 5: Was like, no, no, okay, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I was like, I've talked to myself out of it.
Speaker 1: At this point. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 6: If I was dating someone, especially if they're local, no,
Speaker 6: I do feel I feel good though, you feel good.
Speaker 1: I mean the other day you were feeling a little anxious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have I have sports. I'll text Erica like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna die. I need sex.
Speaker 7: Also, I'll be like what if there's no one good
Speaker 7: enough for this good pussy.
Speaker 1: What if I wait so long all the men are
Speaker 1: what if all the men are gone. But if there's
Speaker 1: a bad ratio of good men to good women. She
Speaker 1: was like literally, she was like, bitch, come to the
Speaker 1: bar and have a drink. I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you a hug. She like, don't hug me too tight.
Speaker 1: I might cry. I don't hug me in public. I
Speaker 1: don't want to cry. I'm going to hug you in private.
Speaker 1: It's okay. You haven't had any dick in two months.
Speaker 1: I had some this morning.
Speaker 7: But but other than that, I feel brilliant tune with
Speaker 7: my vagina.
Speaker 1: And I said this already that I was what's the
Speaker 1: word I'm looking for.
Speaker 7: It happens in the middle of the month two months
Speaker 7: before you bleed.
Speaker 1: Ovulating. Oh, I was ovulating and I felt it. I
Speaker 1: was ovulating and I felt it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm ovulating.
Speaker 7: And then I looked at my flow chart and it
Speaker 7: was like ovulation and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: it's cause I haven't had sex in two months.
Speaker 1: I'm in tune with my vagina. I can hear it
Speaker 1: talking to me, and I'm pretty sure I was right.
Speaker 1: I would prefer you not to know. They could get
Speaker 1: it girl anyway, you know where the water's get it.
Speaker 1: Don't make a mess. Okay, go please with close the door,
Speaker 1: please show up.
Speaker 7: So we have guests. We have a baby guest and
Speaker 7: adult guests. We're joined by Brian Hong.
Speaker 3: Hi there, I'm here listening.
Speaker 7: And he's a plastic surgeon. So we're going to talk
Speaker 7: about all things Mommy mage over today. And also we're
Speaker 7: here with his lovely.
Speaker 1: Wife, Marlene Hi. And I know Marlene because she delivered Luna. Yes,
Speaker 1: gotta get closer, get closer. She delivered No, no, no, right.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so I met Darla like four, I guess
Speaker 7: five years ago now because I was pregnant and she
Speaker 7: was my doctor randomly, like my network provided her randomly,
Speaker 7: and she was perfect and she's like young and cool
Speaker 7: on him and.
Speaker 1: Her husband happens to be a plastic surgeon.
Speaker 7: So these are our resident doctors and all m D
Speaker 7: questions will be directed to them.
Speaker 1: To know them.
Speaker 5: But before we get into Mommy Makeover, we want to
Speaker 5: touch on one current event that happened yesterday with Jesse
Speaker 5: small Lett.
Speaker 1: Well, so now you know it's not Wednesday. Oh damn,
Speaker 1: I guess that's not.
Speaker 5: Happened last week. Yeah, so it's not that current, but
Speaker 5: probably not current now. But I think it's just something
Speaker 5: definitely worth talking about because it's so insane. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you guys heard about Jesse small Lett. He's
Speaker 5: an actor on that the hit show Empire. Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: one of the leads on Empire. And he's openly gay,
Speaker 5: and I guess he's been getting he has gotten threatening
Speaker 5: messages from I guess some Trump supporters. They've sent him,
Speaker 5: like letters threatening his life Trump, Yeah, being black and
Speaker 5: being gay, and like like letters like cut out from
Speaker 5: like letters cut out from magazines, like spelling of the
Speaker 5: letters threatening him, calling.
Speaker 1: And all types. I don't know. I didn't know. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the FBI was investigating it already. Oh wow.
Speaker 5: And so because someone Yeah, I don't know why. There's
Speaker 5: a group of people that have it out for him.
Speaker 5: It seems because even these guys were masked, you know,
Speaker 5: the ones that attacked him, they were masked, like they
Speaker 5: knew where she was. They were following him a way,
Speaker 5: which is so scary. So anyway, he was landed in Chicago,
Speaker 5: and it was funny because I followed him on Instagram
Speaker 5: and I was watching his story and he was like
Speaker 5: stuck on the runway trying to get to Chicago.
Speaker 1: He couldn't land and he was just annoyed. And it's
Speaker 1: just like I was just watching his story.
Speaker 5: And then the next day I got on social media
Speaker 5: and I see all this news about him that he
Speaker 5: had landed in Chicago and he was hungry, went to
Speaker 5: subway and came out of subway and two guys that
Speaker 5: were masked like attacked him, punched him, put a noose
Speaker 5: around his neck.
Speaker 3: This is Streeterville, Chicago. This is like one of the yeah.
Speaker 1: Haven't you okay okay.
Speaker 7: That's their lovely daughter Darling. She's playing with Lunda and Irish.
Speaker 7: She was freaking adorable. I've never seen a better fifty
Speaker 7: to fifty mix of somebody's face.
Speaker 1: Feel a little warm when you say that, only because
Speaker 1: we always get the brain contribution.
Speaker 5: No, definitely, they always say that pople the men and
Speaker 5: girls look like they're there. There's dads, and I don't
Speaker 5: want to hear that ship because guess what I made her.
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's anything not to tell a
Speaker 7: mother who just had a good time one night.
Speaker 1: I did everything else. She looks like, yeah, that's that's the.
Speaker 5: Worst thing I know, seriously anyway, but anyway, Yes, So
Speaker 5: back to the Jesse Smallllett topic. Yeah, so they put
Speaker 5: a noose around his neck and punched him. He is
Speaker 5: a fractured rib.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 5: People are still they're trying to I don't know if
Speaker 5: they seem to have targeted him, because like, it just
Speaker 5: seems very It doesn't seem random.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. Who just has a noose in
Speaker 1: their back seat? Yeah, just because some niggurs didn't.
Speaker 7: I just knew some like that's insane and it's a
Speaker 7: rope and masks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it definitely seems pretty Meditatio.
Speaker 3: Streeterville, Chicago. I mean, this is one of the most
Speaker 3: diverse cities in the in the nation.
Speaker 1: Is that what happened? That's okay, She's just.
Speaker 3: He was walking downtown. You know, the Chicago River understands.
Speaker 1: My daughter is going through a face, but she does
Speaker 1: an understanding. I'm sorry, guys, but.
Speaker 7: It's scary to think that you could be targeted just
Speaker 7: for being and and people were actually so hateful that
Speaker 7: they're looking and finding and following you.
Speaker 1: To hurt you, I think. But for him, I was
Speaker 1: just thinking, imagine being him.
Speaker 7: It's not like the physical, it's just like the fear
Speaker 7: of what is about to fucking happen to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's gotta be. He's gonna be traumatized.
Speaker 5: He's gonna not feel safe anywhere.
Speaker 1: Seriously, and that's understandable.
Speaker 5: And yeah, absolutely, And I'm waiting for them to say
Speaker 5: this is a hate crime.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I haven't watched the news today, but I've been waiting
Speaker 5: for them to call it a hate crime.
Speaker 1: You haven't heard anyone call it a hate crime.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's like this alleged hate crime, alleged hate crime,
Speaker 5: and these are Donald Trump supporters.
Speaker 7: Now it's not fucking news. There's no alleged it's a
Speaker 7: hate crime.
Speaker 1: Our president needs to.
Speaker 5: Come out and call it a hate crime, but he
Speaker 5: would never do that because these are his supporters and this.
Speaker 1: Is his base. And it's just it's just.
Speaker 5: So sad that this is the state of the world
Speaker 5: and it's like everything's being it is just being highlighted
Speaker 5: now because people feel safe being out of haterol and
Speaker 5: and hateful. So I'm just I'm sending so much love
Speaker 5: to him and his family.
Speaker 1: He's a sweet guy. I don't even know him, but
Speaker 1: like I want to know him. He seems like he
Speaker 1: just seems.
Speaker 5: So like I don't know, just I don't know how
Speaker 5: yeh like And even if you aren't, No one deserves that, period,
Speaker 5: No one deserves that. And I just can't believe that
Speaker 5: this is like I can't it's fucked up because I
Speaker 5: can't believe it. But I don't want to believe that
Speaker 5: there's still this much hate in the world, you know,
Speaker 5: and that people are being targeted. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 5: you're famous, it doesn't matter if you're poor, Like, no
Speaker 5: one's safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, you know. Anyway, that's it for my current
Speaker 1: events today. Yes, that's a we're not even current.
Speaker 7: We're filming this last week, so we don't even know
Speaker 7: what's going on this week.
Speaker 1: Let's not get to line. So, Brian, Hi, thanks for coming.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: For sure, can you.
Speaker 5: Tell us a little bit about you Where you went
Speaker 5: to school, how you got how do you started your
Speaker 5: career in plassics surgery?
Speaker 1: Yes, something you always.
Speaker 3: Wanted to do, so, you know, I guess how far
Speaker 3: do you want to go back, but I'll try to
Speaker 3: keep it short. I was enjoyed science and the human body.
Speaker 3: So I went into medicine and being you know, everybody
Speaker 3: says they want to work with their hands, which is,
Speaker 3: you know, a natural thing for medicine, who you know
Speaker 3: someone wants to work with their hands is to go
Speaker 3: into surgery. So I started off in general surgery actually,
Speaker 3: and I spent a few years doing that, more like five,
Speaker 3: and a lot of general surgery is you're taking out
Speaker 3: the bad stuff, so you're taking out cancer, or you're
Speaker 3: treating someone who is in an accident. And and through
Speaker 3: that time I didn't I realized I wanted to be
Speaker 3: more of like a happy surgeon. So I wanted to
Speaker 3: help people all.
Speaker 5: Loans and and don't get me wrong, I have the
Speaker 5: utmost respect for people who continue to do that this day.
Speaker 3: You know, the trauma surgeons out there and the all
Speaker 3: the oncology surgeons out there there you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's it's definitely a special skill skill set, but ultimately
Speaker 3: I wanted to help. I want to deal with patients
Speaker 3: who are happy with themselves or sort of unhappy, but
Speaker 3: generally happy, healthy and who want to just better themselves
Speaker 3: and potentially making themselves normal again. So that's how I
Speaker 3: got into plastic surgery. And that's what plastics. It's a
Speaker 3: whole different mindset. It's a little bit more artistic, it's
Speaker 3: a little bit more creative, it's less robotic. And that's
Speaker 3: how I got into plastic surgery I did. I did
Speaker 3: my training in plastic surgery at Duke in North Carolina,
Speaker 3: good Old Durham, and after that did a aesthetic fellowship,
Speaker 3: so just sort of specialized training and set surgery. And
Speaker 3: here I.
Speaker 7: Am cool in the mecca of classic surgery.
Speaker 3: I mean, couldn't have picked a better place.
Speaker 7: Literally, I mean it's like you can't have too many
Speaker 7: classic surgeons in.
Speaker 3: La I mean you should see how many classic surgeons
Speaker 3: are hills.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure of it.
Speaker 3: In one building.
Speaker 1: Really, it's yes, I went to visit all of them.
Speaker 5: Actually you're talking at Actually I went to like four
Speaker 5: of those buildings and there were so many, so so many.
Speaker 1: I was like, is this the right one? I feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: It's like should I keep swiping? Like that? Is? Actually
Speaker 1: I never been thought about that. There's probably like how
Speaker 1: do you how do you choose? You know, speaking of
Speaker 1: choosing plastic surgeons. Yes, it's we're talking about choosing, but you'd.
Speaker 7: Be I'm alarmed at the amount of people who don't
Speaker 7: do their fucking research, Like they're only open opening up
Speaker 7: your flesh.
Speaker 1: That's so like. For I've watched Chopped and screwedter what
Speaker 1: is it chopped? I mean it's not chopped, watched batch
Speaker 1: chopped and screwed. And the stories I hear on that
Speaker 1: ship are crazy.
Speaker 7: I heard about one woman who went to Tijuana to
Speaker 7: get a tummy tuck.
Speaker 1: They brought her in the back door and then they
Speaker 1: brought out a slab of ice. I saw that one
Speaker 1: and she did it? How about buck and she was black?
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, well that while you got this blant,
Speaker 1: where's this ice?
Speaker 3: For?
Speaker 1: I was like, where's your brain, bitch?
Speaker 7: You're about to get cut open from your abdominal and
Speaker 7: you are cool with the block of ice numbing like mechanisms.
Speaker 5: I would have four hundred questions. Actually, no, I don't
Speaker 5: have no questions. I would be like, and we're driving
Speaker 5: to San Diego to chill. How this is over the
Speaker 5: vanity level?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, no, not vanity, sanity and vanity if
Speaker 1: you want to get a.
Speaker 7: Tummy tuck so bad that you're willing to pay the
Speaker 7: lowest amount and risk your life and go to Tijuana. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I would be hesitant to go to the dentists in Tijuana.
Speaker 3: So so let me add there are very actually very
Speaker 3: there are many. You know, there are many qualified Mexican
Speaker 3: classic surgeons out there. You know they have a lot
Speaker 3: that there are many of them that actually present in
Speaker 3: our US meetings and societies. But the ones you're talking
Speaker 3: about are probably the ones that are not necessarily certified,
Speaker 3: and people and patients go there from the US for
Speaker 3: the as you as you as you alluded to, decreased cost.
Speaker 3: And sometimes these people or providers are not classic surgeons,
Speaker 3: are not certified.
Speaker 5: Dentists or like dermatologists, I mean not even doctors.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know people that have gone in to you,
Speaker 1: wanta got great work? Oh no, I was lying. I
Speaker 1: would totally go to the dentist in to you, and
Speaker 1: I know, not dentist class. No, yeah, no, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I mean there's people my friend just got the sleeve
Speaker 1: done out there.
Speaker 7: What is that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: The fact it's like the system to make your stomach
Speaker 5: smaller and he went to some doctor that event. I
Speaker 5: guess he's got referred by like another friend and he'd
Speaker 5: but he didn't really do research. I was like, have
Speaker 5: you researched this?
Speaker 1: He's like, well, my friend went, I'm like, you need
Speaker 1: to read. I was like, what is the doctor's name?
Speaker 5: So I researched it for him because I was concerned,
Speaker 5: and I was like, Okay, you're good, You're fine. He's
Speaker 5: he seems like he's okay. But if you can find
Speaker 5: bad doctors here, okay, sure you can find really bad
Speaker 5: doctors here as well. And there's a lot of like
Speaker 5: doctors that aren't certified that are that are like Instagram
Speaker 5: doctors that are like building nose like the Simon, the
Speaker 5: Simon Orion. He does like apparently he does, like a
Speaker 5: lot of the Kardashians. He's not bored certified and because
Speaker 5: he's only should build spaces like fillers, he doesn't even
Speaker 5: like perform. It's not actual surgery, and that's what he
Speaker 5: like prides himself on, like non surgery driving. And then
Speaker 5: I see his work looks it's like before and actors
Speaker 5: are very captivating. I know he's not board certified because
Speaker 5: actually I made an apply see.
Speaker 1: Him, and my friend was like, you know, he's not
Speaker 1: bird certified. I was like, he's not. What were you
Speaker 1: getting appointment for.
Speaker 5: I just wanted someone to treat my my loose skin
Speaker 5: on my stomach, but not a surgery I want to
Speaker 5: get he can do that.
Speaker 1: He apparently he does it, but he's like an art
Speaker 1: he's a glorified RN.
Speaker 3: So from what I know, he's not a dermatologist even
Speaker 3: he's a he's a physician, but I'm not sure if
Speaker 3: he's completed in your residency training. Okay, sing this on
Speaker 3: and this is just from my my doing a little research.
Speaker 3: He's definitely not even a plastic surgeon.
Speaker 7: Walk me through briefly the everything you have to go
Speaker 7: to to be a board certified like positig and what
Speaker 7: is bird bird board? The board certified mean like if
Speaker 7: can you be just a positive surgeon without being board
Speaker 7: certified and still.
Speaker 1: Practiced and or that's just like a higher level of certification.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'll go through the I'll try to make
Speaker 3: it short, but then I'll tell you where I stand
Speaker 3: in this surgery as process as well. So basically there
Speaker 3: are two ways of becoming a plastic surgeon. So the
Speaker 3: first way, the first route is doing a specific surgical residency,
Speaker 3: so either general surgery or ear nose and throat surgery
Speaker 3: or or orthopedics. Even so a bone surgeon can become
Speaker 3: a plastic surgeon, so they complete.
Speaker 1: That can lead basically two main to main.
Speaker 3: So I know, so I fall into this first group
Speaker 3: because because I did general surgery train first, and then
Speaker 3: after that you do two Now it's three years of
Speaker 3: plastic surgery training, so at least eight years of training.
Speaker 3: The other route now, which is becoming more popular because
Speaker 3: a lot of the programs are transitioning over to this
Speaker 3: is so after this is this is all after medical school.
Speaker 3: So medical school is four years after college. So the
Speaker 3: other the second route is six years of direct training
Speaker 3: in plastic surgery, so you can get into a program
Speaker 3: that is directly integrated plastic series. After six years, you
Speaker 3: could be a classic surgery.
Speaker 1: And that's the short route.
Speaker 3: That's a shorter route. Yeah, okay, and okay, so I
Speaker 3: did the first route. I did the general surgery and
Speaker 3: there years and there's a plastic surgery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was that seven years oh eight, okay,
Speaker 1: so you really started a.
Speaker 3: Fat I took the scenic route. Okay, So the Board
Speaker 3: serviceication process works like this, So the plastic surgeons are
Speaker 3: only certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery so ABPS.
Speaker 3: So if you're a board certified cosmetic surgeon, that is
Speaker 3: that doesn't that's not the same. So they actually just
Speaker 3: had a recent ruling where the Medical Board of California
Speaker 3: said that people who are cosmetic surgeons, so that's a
Speaker 3: one year training after whatever. In general, it could be
Speaker 3: og I in, it could be mexicofacial surgery, it could
Speaker 3: be E and T. Just one year they can do
Speaker 3: a cosmetic surgery training and then call themselves board cosmetic surgeons.
Speaker 3: Which actually now it's I think illegal at this point
Speaker 3: to advertise yourself as that if you.
Speaker 7: Did that route, because they were having people do it
Speaker 7: who probably did have no business doing what they were doing.
Speaker 1: Correct, because there was not enough like education.
Speaker 3: It's just correct that the education the training is not
Speaker 3: sufficient to be to practice it safely. So where I
Speaker 3: am in this process, so I am what you call
Speaker 3: BORD eligible. So board certification process is two steps. So
Speaker 3: there are two exams that are taken to a multiple
Speaker 3: choice tests and then you have a which is like
Speaker 3: a it's not just injoy. It's like a seven hour
Speaker 3: long testow and then you pass that and then you're eligible.
Speaker 3: So I'm eligible now to sit for the oral exam,
Speaker 3: which which happens after you start doing cases.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm in that process right now. Okay, and
Speaker 3: then at that point it's another exam where you know
Speaker 3: all the all the board examiners, so the really experienced
Speaker 3: surgeons they test you and so forth. So it's a
Speaker 3: rigorous process clearly.
Speaker 1: So like this is in general like ten year plus process.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. Anyways, Oh well, I.
Speaker 7: Mean that's good to know because when you were doing
Speaker 7: your research, did you know to know the different like
Speaker 7: to different shape between those two different certifications.
Speaker 1: No, I was just going for board certified all the time.
Speaker 1: But then that's why the language sounds so similar to that.
Speaker 3: So what happens now is some people, let's say, who
Speaker 3: did general surgery training and they did a you know,
Speaker 3: cosmetic surgery fellowship. Okay, they can be board certified. It
Speaker 3: depends on what specialty. So they can be board certified derrotologists,
Speaker 3: they can be board certified general surgeon, they can be
Speaker 3: board certified plastic surgeon.
Speaker 1: Right, my plastics.
Speaker 3: So all these other specialties can advertise as.
Speaker 1: But would they say bored certified plastic service. But if
Speaker 1: you don't know to look for that, you just see
Speaker 1: looking girl I had, But I wouldn't know. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have known that.
Speaker 5: If I didn't know, I literally researched obsessively for because
Speaker 5: originally when I went in to be to what I
Speaker 5: was even thinking about plastic surgery, it wasn't to get
Speaker 5: my boobs done. It was to fix my like my
Speaker 5: this loose skin and my stomach from the lower my
Speaker 5: lower stomach. So I thought maybe I could just get
Speaker 5: a little lip posuction. I was like, I just need
Speaker 5: light bo I'll be fine. Okay, So every like the
Speaker 5: first few doctors I went to, so L like, just
Speaker 5: need a little light bob, I'll be fine, And you know,
Speaker 5: and honestly like to talk freely about this like I
Speaker 5: never thought I would, because I actually never I was
Speaker 5: always against plastic surgery before I actually until I had
Speaker 5: a kid, and then my body changed and then I
Speaker 5: was like, oh I.
Speaker 1: Get it now, I get Oh You're like you were
Speaker 1: oh no hell boobs fuck no.
Speaker 5: Now face botox bye. I mean that's like a plastic surgery,
Speaker 5: but these.
Speaker 1: Are all young aer cub what everything is where it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be a time change.
Speaker 5: And then you know when you gain seventy pounds in
Speaker 5: pregnancy and then you drop forty in like three weeks,
Speaker 5: and suddenly the elasticity and your stomach is different, and
Speaker 5: your flat ass stomach you had all your life suddenly
Speaker 5: isn't so flat. You start looks questioning and researching, and
Speaker 5: so I was like, you know, maybe if I just
Speaker 5: get a little light boat, that'll be It'll be fine.
Speaker 5: Like I was, I was struggling losing the last few
Speaker 5: pounds of weight from my pregnancy, but my breakup handled
Speaker 5: all that.
Speaker 1: Getting YLB.
Speaker 5: So when I went in, I was looking to get
Speaker 5: like I was. I was doing like I wanted to
Speaker 5: get LiPo section, not even thinking about my boobs. But
Speaker 5: once you get in that office and the.
Speaker 1: Beau, I was selling all.
Speaker 5: Types of shit and then they told me that, like,
Speaker 5: you're not not eligible for Actually one doctor said he
Speaker 5: would do the light boat, but I'm so glad that
Speaker 5: I did my research. So I went to multiple doctors
Speaker 5: and they most of them were like, you know, I
Speaker 5: could do light on you, but your skin is a
Speaker 5: little loose, and it might not get the result you want.
Speaker 5: You really kind of if you really want the result
Speaker 5: you really really want, you need to do a mini
Speaker 5: tummy tuck.
Speaker 1: And I was like, hell, you want me to cut
Speaker 1: open again after the sea section. Poking a belly button
Speaker 1: is what weirds me. Oh no, you don't, don't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't need a banue belly. But that's like when you're
Speaker 1: getting like a full.
Speaker 5: Well, it's not that tiny. It's not like the full
Speaker 5: like when you like correct me if I'm wrong. You
Speaker 5: did a full timy touch. Most of the time, it's
Speaker 5: like hip to hip. Many timmy tuck they can kind
Speaker 5: of like make it smaller. Sometimes they can use your
Speaker 5: sea section scar, but like it's smaller, but it's still
Speaker 5: a significant line, right, And I woar a lot of
Speaker 5: high waisted bathing.
Speaker 1: Suits, like like high cut bathing.
Speaker 5: Suits, and the idea of cutting open that area again
Speaker 5: after my sea section was like so unappealing to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm good, I will just diet. I
Speaker 1: don't need this. I'm cool, Like I've.
Speaker 5: Just learned to love it and now I have no desire.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad I didn't do that. But while I
Speaker 5: was there, I was like, well, if I'm here, let's
Speaker 5: talk about my boobs, what do you think about these here?
Speaker 5: And they're like and then so suddenly I'm again like
Speaker 5: I think I'm getting my boobs done, which I never
Speaker 5: even like, wasn't even on my radar.
Speaker 4: But then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well they start talking badly about your breast. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, you've lost a lot of density on the top.
Speaker 5: And then now looking back on my boobs before my
Speaker 5: boob job, and now I'm like, yeah, that cities were cuff.
Speaker 1: They were.
Speaker 5: I love my boobs. Now I look back on my
Speaker 5: old boobs and I'm like, I'm so glad I did this.
Speaker 1: Like your booms look fucking amazing. I have zero great
Speaker 1: brush job.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean live in atlant I know a lot of
Speaker 1: bitches and boot jobs. By far, by a long shot,
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 7: The best boobs. But I have to tell me if
Speaker 7: I'm wrong to you. I have a theory and I'm
Speaker 7: going with this. I know I'm right if you have
Speaker 7: given and like breastfed or had breast milk, like the
Speaker 7: last sissy in your breast has gone big and gone small,
Speaker 7: So you know they can do it, Whereas I have
Speaker 7: homegirls that have never had kids and they get two
Speaker 7: big boobs for their small bodies first of all.
Speaker 1: And it looks like their boob is trying to load,
Speaker 1: like suffocate it plants, and so it's just tight. Yeah, tight.
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that I, like.
Speaker 7: I do want boobs eventually, I'm not. I don't hate mine,
Speaker 7: but the floci lot of density. And I wasn't heart
Speaker 7: your boobs the other day because of those pictures.
Speaker 1: I took of view and I was like, she really
Speaker 1: has great boobs? What the fuck is she talking? It
Speaker 1: depends in the day of the week today not so
Speaker 1: much literally, this depends like when you catch me.
Speaker 7: But I felt like I have some booths when I
Speaker 7: like was one year postpartum. Oh my god, I can't
Speaker 7: wait to show this to Brian. When you do my boobs,
Speaker 7: this is how I want them because they were perfect,
Speaker 7: and I was like, oh, my boobs can stretch out
Speaker 7: perfect for those implants. So I think that that's like
Speaker 7: that has I mean, you have a good doctor and
Speaker 7: you have a good breast, but I think it probably
Speaker 7: has a lot to.
Speaker 1: Do with that. You did have the skin to do.
Speaker 5: Well that and I did a lot of research. There's
Speaker 5: a website called real self that I checked out a
Speaker 5: lot of doctors on it's real Reviews, and I was
Speaker 5: obsessive on that fucking shit, okay, like obsessively researching.
Speaker 1: Trying to find any bad review on a doctor just
Speaker 1: because like you know, not everything's gonna be perfect. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna please everyone right now, I'm gonna have to say.
Speaker 1: And so I just feel like, yeah, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it, do your research. I know I did, and
Speaker 1: I'm really happy with my result.
Speaker 5: And but as for you and being a doctor, like yes,
Speaker 5: do you like how do you vet your patients? Like
Speaker 5: because I know, like for me, like a lot of doctors,
Speaker 5: the good ones at least, were asking me a lot
Speaker 5: of questions like why do you want to do this,
Speaker 5: like just make like making sure your mental state is okay,
Speaker 5: even like I have a friend who was getting the
Speaker 5: sleeve done and she had to go through all this
Speaker 5: like ment shit, like see a therapist like they need to.
Speaker 7: Really, that's that's very interesting, being as though I see
Speaker 7: many people who somebody overdidn't the fuck up.
Speaker 5: Well, there's people that are responsible, but like so it's
Speaker 5: not mandatory I mean even when you watch botch there's
Speaker 5: a lot of weird Like there's a lot of like
Speaker 5: characters that walk in through that door, and they always
Speaker 5: kind of are like they ask them a.
Speaker 1: Lot of questions.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they have to because flability and television,
Speaker 5: but they often like questions, do you ever have to
Speaker 5: do that?
Speaker 3: So, in terms of so plastic surgery patients or we're
Speaker 3: talking more like aesthetic cosmetic surgery, right, so to improve
Speaker 3: our appearance, and weight loss patients actually have a lot
Speaker 3: in similarity. So sometimes I'm not saying, oh, sometimes that
Speaker 3: patient does have some underlying psychiatric illness. So someone who
Speaker 3: is like an addict for plastic surgery, for example, it's
Speaker 3: sort of you know, you have similar medical issues as
Speaker 3: sometimes these weight loss.
Speaker 1: Patients in terms like body to morphia, right right, So and.
Speaker 3: I get it. It's sometimes these way lost patients have
Speaker 3: a long journey ahead and and you know, props to
Speaker 3: them for going through that journey. But but it's just
Speaker 3: sort of the checkmarks to make sure that their their
Speaker 3: state of mind is is normal before delving the surgery.
Speaker 3: Because sometimes right as you as you alluded to about it, dysmorphia,
Speaker 3: sometimes the solution is to treat that versus through surgery.
Speaker 7: So as you'll say I wanted to get a bigger
Speaker 7: dis or smaller that and said no, actually, you may
Speaker 7: want to see this therapist.
Speaker 3: It's potential. It's potential. I mean sometimes even yeah, even
Speaker 3: with these consultations with plastic surgery for cosmetic surgery, I've
Speaker 3: seen some surgeons sort of delve into a little bit
Speaker 3: more of the social history of the patient. You know,
Speaker 3: are people support above your decision? Who have you told?
Speaker 3: You know, what's going on in your life? Because some
Speaker 3: patients may sort of use a surgery as they're thinking.
Speaker 3: They're thinking it as a solution to some of their
Speaker 3: other issues in their So it's sort of.
Speaker 1: Like if I if I get this, if I get this,
Speaker 1: marriage is my marriage is better? My boyfriend will love
Speaker 1: me more. Is that like a doctor to doctor basis?
Speaker 7: Is there like a standard for that, because I mean, obviously,
Speaker 7: like everybody's moral compass is different. So is there like
Speaker 7: a state or or like nationwide like mandatory, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean? Like if I know I know better
Speaker 7: and if I do this, then I there's grounds for
Speaker 7: lawsuits or like.
Speaker 5: What is like really, well, you sign your life away
Speaker 5: when you go into surgery. It's like if I died
Speaker 5: not on them, and you sign the I I signed
Speaker 5: so much paperwork.
Speaker 1: I was like, please, God, please, I've just signed all
Speaker 1: my rights, my to my life.
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, there isn't There isn't like
Speaker 3: a There isn't like a standard per se written down
Speaker 3: like you have to go through these checkboxes. But medicine,
Speaker 3: as we know, there's a little bit of art into it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not an exact science. Even in other fields,
Speaker 3: there are some leeways that that you know, certain doctors
Speaker 3: give depending on you know, the personality, how they interact
Speaker 3: with patients. But in this case specifically, the most important
Speaker 3: thing is to sort of for the for the plastic
Speaker 3: surgeon and the patient to be on the same page. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's it's for the plastic scursion to educate the patient
Speaker 3: on expectations on you know, what can potentially happen after
Speaker 3: the surgery, how their recovery is, what the result can
Speaker 3: be like, that's what you do all your research and
Speaker 3: then and during this process, the patient should be telling
Speaker 3: the classificition what their expectations are and what they hope
Speaker 3: to achieve, you know, so all these questions are sort
Speaker 3: of to get both sides in line with each other,
Speaker 3: because when we're not in line, then there's gonna be unsatisfaction, right,
Speaker 3: So patients are not gonna be satisfied with the result.
Speaker 3: You know, doctor's not gonna know what the patient wants.
Speaker 3: So it's sort of more it comes with experience and
Speaker 3: dealing with more patients that that more these questions are
Speaker 3: kind of asked to kind of to kind of filter
Speaker 3: out crazy, right, because not only is the training preparing
Speaker 3: you know, plastic surgeons to know who to operate on,
Speaker 3: but is also crucial to know who did not operate on.
Speaker 5: Do you think that plastic surgery is kind of like sales,
Speaker 5: because I mean, I know some people probably look at
Speaker 5: it that way. I don't know about you, or I
Speaker 5: don't know about like your colleagues, but it definitely felt
Speaker 5: that way.
Speaker 3: Like you're absolutely correct, And I actually wanted to ask
Speaker 3: you in your previous comment about how your projects us
Speaker 3: went from your tummy to your breast, because I because
Speaker 3: that's sort of a leap. You know, if like a
Speaker 3: patient came to me for their tummy, I wouldn't necessarily well,
Speaker 3: that's that's just me personally.
Speaker 5: But by the time I got to beat my actual
Speaker 5: plastic surgeon when I went with, I had already been
Speaker 5: sold on boobs. So it wasn't him, you weren't even
Speaker 5: going for this time.
Speaker 1: No, I mean for him.
Speaker 5: For him specifically the doctor that I went to, which
Speaker 5: was in San Diego. Shout out doctor Laverson in San Diego.
Speaker 1: He like I had went.
Speaker 5: I had already decided, okay, I think I eat boobs, okay,
Speaker 5: And so I started researching doctors that were really great
Speaker 5: in boobs and also that were also because I was
Speaker 5: still entertaining this whole like stomach thing, I wanted to
Speaker 5: get another. I was getting everyone's o painting about life
Speaker 5: with section and if it was for me.
Speaker 1: And he off. He was the most honest.
Speaker 5: He literally sat with me for like some of these
Speaker 5: plastic surgeons were like, you have an appoyment. These twenty minutes,
Speaker 5: thirty minutes were out. He really sat with me for
Speaker 5: like an hour, answered all my questions.
Speaker 1: I did not feel rush.
Speaker 5: He really took his time with me, which is why
Speaker 5: I was like, I will drive to Sandy. It's an
Speaker 5: energy thing if you see you.
Speaker 1: He really cared, and I was honest.
Speaker 5: With me, and like I told him from the beginning,
Speaker 5: like I don't want I want my boobs to hang.
Speaker 5: I don't want them up to my chin. I want
Speaker 5: them to look natural. I don't care if through sag
Speaker 5: a little bit, you know, like and he and he
Speaker 5: was just really supportive. So he didn't actually sell me
Speaker 5: on that, But there were other ones the other doctors did.
Speaker 1: They were like, well, have you thought about this?
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, I don't maybe, and then
Speaker 5: suddenly you're like, my biops are okay, Like oh maybe,
Speaker 5: Like yeah, like maybe you want to get light on
Speaker 5: your inner thigh too.
Speaker 1: They said that, yeah, Like no, bitch, I like these.
Speaker 1: It became like a whole thing and it wasn't made it.
Speaker 5: They definitely tapped into they already know you're insecure about something,
Speaker 5: into that into your insecure And that's.
Speaker 1: Why I said, it's like sales like like.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, with the peteatment, but the filet is only
Speaker 7: one hundred thousand dollars of the blue cheese drizzled, you'll definitely.
Speaker 3: But no. But to address your issue, you are absolutely correct.
Speaker 3: And the plastic surgery is one of the it's probably
Speaker 3: one of the few medical specialties that has element of
Speaker 3: sales in it, because think about it, this is elective surgery. Okay,
Speaker 3: you don't need this, and nobody nobody needs plastic surgery.
Speaker 3: And by plastic jury, I'm meaning cosmetic aesthetic surgery. Okay,
Speaker 3: we all would like it. You know, those are always
Speaker 3: things that we could make ourselves better in. But it's
Speaker 3: not like you have to deliver baby or you have
Speaker 3: to have your stomach removed because you have cancer. You know,
Speaker 3: there's not it's not a necessity. So it's easy to
Speaker 3: do that because of that, right, because of that, you know,
Speaker 3: and there's so many options out there, you know, living
Speaker 3: where we are here in la or you know, Miami,
Speaker 3: New York. You know, there's a lot of competition out there.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's almost like any other store, you know,
Speaker 3: whether you go to Louis Vuitton or it's it's like
Speaker 3: a you know, it's a luxury brand that that you know,
Speaker 3: that will appeal to certain people and and and others.
Speaker 3: So each plastic surgeon in a way, there's i mean,
Speaker 3: at the bottom, at the end of the day, they're
Speaker 3: still running a business, right so they have overhead, they
Speaker 3: have staff to take they have advertising.
Speaker 1: Marketing talk about like I would go see in plastic surgeon.
Speaker 1: They would be calling me every days. Did you think
Speaker 1: about it? And I'm like, chill, that would make me
Speaker 1: uneasy too. Don't fucking Mary Kaymie like, I don't want that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have your cancer surgeon like hounding you.
Speaker 3: I want the surgery now. You know you can have
Speaker 3: the surgery right, right, and that's it. Yeah, And don't
Speaker 3: get wrong, I'm not hating on you know, pass do
Speaker 3: that because you know I have to do that too.
Speaker 1: Business. But I mean there's there would be a maximum
Speaker 1: amount of calls.
Speaker 5: There is a little bit of convincing that needs to happen,
Speaker 5: and I understand that, but there's a I think there's
Speaker 5: a line.
Speaker 3: There definitely is a line. It's a fine line where
Speaker 3: you want to be. You still at the end of
Speaker 3: the day. Also, aside from your bottom line is the
Speaker 3: patients will being right. So you want to make sure
Speaker 3: the patient has all the information that they need to
Speaker 3: proceed to make them better, so you know, having the
Speaker 3: proper information and being honest. But also you want your
Speaker 3: patient to choose you, so you have to be appealing
Speaker 3: to them as well.
Speaker 1: It's true you know what. I actually when I found
Speaker 1: I thought I found my plastic surgeon.
Speaker 5: The guy was into my boobs was a Beverly Hills.
Speaker 5: I put down a deposit and then I I think
Speaker 5: I remember you telling him. I put down a deposit
Speaker 5: with him, and then immediately regretted it, like I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, is this is I don't know? Like
Speaker 5: he he we we we bonded over skiing, of course,
Speaker 5: but all of his boobs looked exactly the same, which
Speaker 5: concerned me because I felt like they all looked good,
Speaker 5: but they all looked the same, and I was like,
Speaker 5: he's not catering to your body type.
Speaker 1: He's just literally creating the same format on everybody.
Speaker 5: And then that's why I ended up going to my
Speaker 5: doctor and I got my deposit back like literally all
Speaker 5: the next day, I was like, anybody.
Speaker 1: Though, thank god, Yes, how much was it? I think
Speaker 1: it was like three grand okay, And they gave it
Speaker 1: back to me. There was because wait, I had a
Speaker 1: lot of questions, why had they not? Did you tell
Speaker 1: him I think I'll have the boobs look the same? No,
Speaker 1: I just said, I'm having regrets. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go through with this. Because yeah, if you would
Speaker 1: have said don't doctor, they would have tried harder to Yeah,
Speaker 1: but damn, I was gonna say, uh oh, if they
Speaker 1: would not give me your deposit back, would you have
Speaker 1: changed you mind? I would have fall trapped and I
Speaker 1: probably would have maybe went with him. I don't know
Speaker 1: who knows, but I was. I wasn't even thinking that way.
Speaker 5: I was like, these motherfucker's better give me my money
Speaker 5: back or I'm gonna call my bank and says fraud.
Speaker 1: Okay, But so what as a plastic surgeon, is.
Speaker 5: There like something that specifically that you enjoy doing the most,
Speaker 5: Like is there a certain like cosmetic that you like
Speaker 5: feel like you're like the best at, or like that
Speaker 5: is your thing currently. Maybe there was something you were
Speaker 5: into before now you're into this.
Speaker 3: That's such a great question and this would be good
Speaker 3: for the viewers listeners. So plastic surgery is actually a
Speaker 3: huge field. So we all know plastic surgery as cosmetic
Speaker 3: surgery or aesthetic surgery. You know, what we know is
Speaker 3: the run of the mill. You know your nose job,
Speaker 3: boop job, Tommy Tuck, Brazilian butt lift. But actually it
Speaker 3: encompasses facial surgery. So you know, patients with cleft lips,
Speaker 3: little kids who are born with that deformities, deformities in
Speaker 3: their skulls. You have breast reconstruction, so you know, operating
Speaker 3: under the microscope to connect blood vessels to recreate a
Speaker 3: breast for a patient who underwent breast cancer surgery. You
Speaker 3: have trauma victims who have exposed bone in their leg
Speaker 3: because of a car accident, and we use tissue to
Speaker 3: cover it. There's hand surgery as well, so anything that
Speaker 3: involves hand injuries to putting the fingers back together and
Speaker 3: so that they're you know, people can use their hands. Again,
Speaker 3: this all falls under the realm of plastic surgery. And
Speaker 3: I chose to specialize in aesthetic surgery because again going
Speaker 3: along with like the positive surgery, you know, most people
Speaker 3: are healthy and they want to get better. So that's
Speaker 3: sort of my specialty. So all of it, so all
Speaker 3: of esthetic.
Speaker 1: Surgery, so aesthetic as far as like cleft.
Speaker 3: Lip, like oh no, no, so that would fall under
Speaker 3: like cranio facial. There's like there's reconstruction sort of something
Speaker 3: like do.
Speaker 5: You like food jobs, booty jobs us is there one
Speaker 5: that's way more complicated than the other.
Speaker 1: Like which like nose is very complicated nose.
Speaker 3: You gotta break it right, Yeah, you gotta break.
Speaker 1: It into I remember seeing video like chivery.
Speaker 3: Not in every case, but you're right that sometimes is involved.
Speaker 3: Depends on what the patient wants.
Speaker 1: Thank you God for giving me this nose.
Speaker 5: I love you.
Speaker 3: You have great noses.
Speaker 7: One I wasn't gonna do anything about it.
Speaker 3: But but the nose is actually even though it's a
Speaker 3: it's a small structure, but it's in the center of
Speaker 3: the face, and it's actually the surgery of millimeters. So
Speaker 3: you know, depending on what the patient wants. Sometimes there's
Speaker 3: a little hump, there's a little sometimes the tip is
Speaker 3: a little bit not not even sometimes knows a little
Speaker 3: bit why, and so different things will require different techniques.
Speaker 3: So breaking the bones is one of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question. Did you perform surgery today?
Speaker 3: I did, Yes, Actually two breast surgeries. There was one
Speaker 3: patient who actually I didn't do the first surgery, but
Speaker 3: actually her breast implant sort of after surgery, she was
Speaker 3: moving around too much and actually shifted extruded.
Speaker 1: What does that mean.
Speaker 3: Extruded means it got exposed and it was taken.
Speaker 1: Out, taken out a where the pocket her pocket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this surgery today was we had to
Speaker 3: just sew the pocket up or something. We had to
Speaker 3: replace an implant, correct the pocket to make it look
Speaker 3: somewhat normal.
Speaker 1: How long ago did she put the implant in?
Speaker 3: This is probably almost a year ago.
Speaker 7: Actually, oh so, but immediately after survey. She probably didn't
Speaker 7: kill for long enough.
Speaker 3: So now you're moving boxes. And yeah, I wasn't there
Speaker 3: for the first surgery, but.
Speaker 1: Did your office do the first surgery?
Speaker 3: Actually I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I wonder why she didn't go back to because she
Speaker 1: didn't trust that they did a good job. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: second opinion.
Speaker 3: It could be I think she also moved in the meantime,
Speaker 3: so I don't know if.
Speaker 1: She had hence the moving boxes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you realize that.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 1: Don't schedule your move right after your searcher.
Speaker 3: You didn't say that facetious, this.
Speaker 1: Like correctly move three or six months later.
Speaker 7: I mean, honestly though, when first of all, I've like,
Speaker 7: I don't know if you watched the instagram of the
Speaker 7: doctor who's like lunchtime boob job, like it takes twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, probably a minute. Boy. They have revolutionised the kidding,
Speaker 1: They're like, go to lunch then do yoga. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: but I was.
Speaker 7: I was pretty surprised, like I can't think of like
Speaker 7: that you were very out of order when because you've
Speaker 7: got your boopsne within this last eleven months that we've
Speaker 7: been doing this, like maybe like.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, No, I've got my books while we
Speaker 1: were recording. Yeah, while we're recording, and yeah, we didn't
Speaker 1: tell anybody. I was just like, Erica is sick. I'm
Speaker 1: so tired.
Speaker 7: I'm very tired of that moving very limitedly today just
Speaker 7: before we started recording. No, no, I think that she
Speaker 7: don't think you were allowed to take a name of
Speaker 7: your pills before we recorded, because you said the name
Speaker 7: you feel loopy allowed I forbid you from taking the medicine.
Speaker 7: But I feel like now, like the downtime, it seems
Speaker 7: very low, Like I feel like we went to the
Speaker 7: club like ten days later, like we went out.
Speaker 5: I remember being out like boy, and that was I
Speaker 5: was still bandaged and I couldn't move.
Speaker 1: I had limited, like you know, movements.
Speaker 3: How many days would you say you felt able to
Speaker 3: move around daily? I feel like I felt like back
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you what I've seen.
Speaker 5: I felt like now I wasn't normal for a few months,
Speaker 5: but like I felt like I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 5: back to I'm back to work, back to life. I
Speaker 5: feel like ten days.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not sure. We went to the club ten days.
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't.
Speaker 5: I couldn't really like lift my arms obviously, but like
Speaker 5: I was on a lot of pain medicine, so I
Speaker 5: never really felt excruciating pain ever per se.
Speaker 1: It was definitely an annoying numb pain.
Speaker 5: I would get like, shoot, you know those electrical shops
Speaker 5: and I had an aerola lift.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that hurt, and those were bandaged. I didn't
Speaker 1: see them for a while.
Speaker 3: Did that hurt more than the the implants?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that's probably it's probably hard.
Speaker 1: Wait, there's a difference between an aerial a lift and
Speaker 1: the actual lift. Yeah, because sometimes I do the lollipop
Speaker 1: lift where it's I don't have the line.
Speaker 5: It's just they literally took my aerioles off, so that
Speaker 5: means they lift and replaced them.
Speaker 1: They literally took my whole aerial off. So aerial alift
Speaker 1: refers to the type of incision.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's rest appudition. As we know, it's place
Speaker 3: based place on the implant, under the muscles. That's for volume.
Speaker 3: So somebody so my implants over the muscle, it's over
Speaker 3: the muscles, Okay, I was gonna ask you if they're.
Speaker 1: Over, can you breastfeed over the muscle?
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's always one of these questions where
Speaker 3: it's like maybe we're not we're not fortune tellers. It's
Speaker 3: always there's always a risk.
Speaker 1: Okay, but under the muscle.
Speaker 3: Under the muscle in theory, is you have a more chance, sorry,
Speaker 3: under the muscle in theory, you have more chance of
Speaker 3: being able to breastfeed because you're not really disrupting the
Speaker 3: breast tissue.
Speaker 1: But you can't. But it's possible that you.
Speaker 3: You still possible you can or cannot. It's it's harder.
Speaker 3: I'm both and right. But neither of the procedures goes
Speaker 3: after the milk ducks like the ducks behind the nipple.
Speaker 1: So you know, so she may still be able to
Speaker 1: breast food feature.
Speaker 5: Yea, yeah, I mean I asked my doctor all these
Speaker 5: questions too, and he said the same thing. If there's
Speaker 5: no perfect answer, I can't give you an answer just
Speaker 5: because it's a body and it just like I read
Speaker 5: a lot about like losing sensation in your nipples, and
Speaker 5: that's also like a and that was like really concerning
Speaker 5: to me because I really like my nipple sensation and
Speaker 5: unfortunately I think I've lost sensation one of my nipples.
Speaker 1: This one came back and this one, if I said
Speaker 1: underneath and underneath is like this one. No, I can't
Speaker 1: really feel much under here.
Speaker 3: So I'll get a little bit scientific here. So the innervation,
Speaker 3: the nerve that innervates the nipple, that allows us to
Speaker 3: feel sensation, comes from the side of the chest wall,
Speaker 3: and it goes under the muscle, goes through the muscle,
Speaker 3: and then goes right under the nipple like this. Okay.
Speaker 3: So sometimes with depending on what size the plan you
Speaker 3: got it fits placed under there, the nerve can get
Speaker 3: a little stretched. It can it can experience something called neuropraxia,
Speaker 3: which is basically the stretching of the nerve, and sometimes
Speaker 3: that that recovers. But sometimes if the volume, if the
Speaker 3: implant is really big and sometimes well, the nerve can
Speaker 3: also be injured potentially, and we all try to avoid that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm hoping, I mean this one I thought
Speaker 5: I thought they were done for sure forever because this
Speaker 5: one I was like, there.
Speaker 1: Can feel anything. And then I was like, oh oh oh,
Speaker 1: and this one is fully come back.
Speaker 5: At first it was just like part of it, but
Speaker 5: now it's fully back now underneath my breasts. Not really
Speaker 5: this one sometimes like someone hit me in the boob,
Speaker 5: Like I can feel that I'm hitting my boot right now.
Speaker 3: Guys, you know, surprising actually had patience like I can
Speaker 3: feel this, yeah, but it's only.
Speaker 1: Like around this area, not the year.
Speaker 5: Well, I kind I feel that, so then I'm hopeful,
Speaker 5: like I had my boots then in March of last year,
Speaker 5: so we're coming up.
Speaker 1: On a year.
Speaker 3: Two things. So here's the other thing. You said you
Speaker 3: had incision around your aerial or in the colored part
Speaker 3: of the nipol, so sometimes the skin sensation can be
Speaker 3: it's it was also cut through, so it may come
Speaker 3: back even though it's not.
Speaker 1: Fully there, and even up to like a year like
Speaker 1: she's at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the nerve basically regenerates at one millimeter per day.
Speaker 1: So what's the average that it would take so to
Speaker 1: get I.
Speaker 3: Mean every pati is a little bit different, but it
Speaker 3: could take months.
Speaker 5: I mean, well it's been more than months, so like
Speaker 5: it's almost a year in March. So my my lost
Speaker 5: cause someone was like this the girl kind.
Speaker 3: Of these are no named nerves that you can reconnect.
Speaker 1: So this girl the other like what I was at
Speaker 1: in Miami.
Speaker 5: You know, I was with all these makeup influencers that
Speaker 5: have so much work done it's out of control.
Speaker 1: I'm sure maybe if you can work on some of them.
Speaker 1: I was telling her about my boob. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're done. You're never going to get that back.
Speaker 1: I was like, but it's not quite a year. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: you're done. I was like, Okay, that's so funny. It's
Speaker 1: so sad.
Speaker 5: When I hook up with like anyone, you tell them, oh,
Speaker 5: I know, I don't tell them like baking it. I
Speaker 5: don't like they're like stacking my left boob. I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, I'm I can't feel ship.
Speaker 1: That's what you do a lot. I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have I mean the visuals.
Speaker 3: Used to take it used to.
Speaker 1: I mean I usually do. I'm like, oh, I come
Speaker 1: over here.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I've actually had patients who would
Speaker 3: come back hypersensus.
Speaker 1: And then I've read that too, like it's too much.
Speaker 3: Like it's like orgasmic, Oh my god, please, So you
Speaker 3: know I've seen, you know, the full spectrum or it's
Speaker 3: it's hard to predict.
Speaker 5: Have you ever done like a full mommy makeover, like
Speaker 5: on someone that's been because I know some women are
Speaker 5: insistent on.
Speaker 1: Just like getting it done in one full like I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that recovery well less you got to knock
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 3: So basically, combining procedures and plastic surgery is totally doable.
Speaker 3: It all comes down to patient safety. So a couple
Speaker 3: of factors to look into that that that decide which
Speaker 3: ones to combine is the combined time of being in
Speaker 3: the operating room. So usually about six hours is.
Speaker 1: The maximum time you want someone should be under.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone should be under after that. And it's not
Speaker 3: a hard set rule. But but as you as you
Speaker 3: go above six, then the risks of getting a clot
Speaker 3: in your leg or something increased. Not to say that
Speaker 3: you will get happen, because there are a lot of
Speaker 3: there's a lot of we do a lot of things
Speaker 3: like you know, compressive things in the in the cabs
Speaker 3: that you guys probably know of, uh, to kind of
Speaker 3: help prevent that, but that's some sort of one gauge.
Speaker 3: So doing a breast you know, surgery and also the
Speaker 3: tummy talk you know, kind of falls within that six hours,
Speaker 3: it's totally doable.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, if this guy's doing a lunch break
Speaker 8: for sure, do you think it's I mean, like, have
Speaker 8: you ever done like a surgery on someone or been
Speaker 8: asked to do a surgery that was like teetering the
Speaker 8: lines of like what you think is.
Speaker 3: Like ethical?
Speaker 1: Ethical?
Speaker 9: Like like too much like and there like double g
Speaker 9: breasts or like I don't even know if that's a
Speaker 9: size like Z No, there's like or like or booty
Speaker 9: that's just out of contr donkey like redunculous booty. Like yeah,
Speaker 9: so you're like, this isn't gonna look good, but maybe
Speaker 9: that's what you want, then I'll give it to you.
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, yes, so it's all about
Speaker 3: because some patients will. I'll give an example. You know,
Speaker 3: someone totally super skinny like you are. You know, it
Speaker 3: comes in, Hey I want to do I want to
Speaker 3: have a Brazilian butt lift for example, What.
Speaker 1: The fuck is a Brazilian butt lift? Is it fat transfer? Yes?
Speaker 1: In other ways other than fant transfer. Do I have hope?
Speaker 3: So okay, I'll just I'll go through that Brazilian butt lift. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's at a little bit of a misnomer because everybody's
Speaker 3: thinking of a lift, so you're actually lifting you know,
Speaker 3: the butt or something. But what it entails is basically
Speaker 3: two things. So first is liposuction, okay, So you have
Speaker 3: to have fat first of all, So whether it's from
Speaker 3: the belly, from the flanks, from the rolls under your
Speaker 3: bra in the back, or your back or your love handles.
Speaker 3: So you need fat first. And then that fat is
Speaker 3: purified a little bit and then injection into your butt
Speaker 3: so to create volume. So it's fat grafting, as you said,
Speaker 3: So it's lip boat and fat grafting. And so that
Speaker 3: creates a lift because you're increasing the volume of the butt.
Speaker 3: So when there was a little bit, you know, so
Speaker 3: called saggy t shoe, it's going to be more lifted.
Speaker 5: And is there a way like it's just I've heard
Speaker 5: sometimes like whenever you do, it's just like when people
Speaker 5: use their own fat for breast augmentation.
Speaker 1: Yes, only sometimes it doesn't always stay like your twenty percent.
Speaker 3: Chance if it's correct, So we quote about I quote
Speaker 3: about sixty or seventy percent actually stays when people get.
Speaker 1: Crazy with it, like they go extra because they're trying to.
Speaker 1: So if I don't have any fat to transfer, am
Speaker 1: I I'm a hopeless class.
Speaker 7: I can't get it.
Speaker 1: You're not hopeless. There are other options in America or
Speaker 1: my other friends could bind their fat, purify and yeah,
Speaker 1: can you can you? Can you do a loaner fat?
Speaker 3: That is a great we can we? That is a
Speaker 3: great question.
Speaker 1: And I've gotten that a few times, so I'm not
Speaker 1: the first one.
Speaker 3: So if okay, if you did that, that would be
Speaker 3: sort of like a transplant. So if you think of
Speaker 3: these patients who will get limit or can you transplants?
Speaker 3: You know what kind of medications these patients have to
Speaker 3: be on, like immunosuppressants, like long term steroids, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: If you're not like twins. Okay, So, so to answer
Speaker 3: your question, no, it's not possible for Erica fat to
Speaker 3: her sorry girl, But in terms of options to answer
Speaker 3: your question, there are some other options, although I wouldn't personally.
Speaker 3: You know, there are some plastic stuers out there who
Speaker 3: do this. There's one is actually a butt implant. So
Speaker 3: there are the one that flipped. Yeah, so there are
Speaker 3: a couple of a couple of guys who actually do
Speaker 3: some butt implants, but they are associated with obviously, these
Speaker 3: guys who do it may have done a lot so
Speaker 3: they know kind of the nuances. But generally speaking, there
Speaker 3: are a lot of complications. So as you said, Aulay,
Speaker 3: it can change. Yeah, there's a lot of motion there.
Speaker 3: So that's that's one butt implant would too. Yes, filler
Speaker 3: so something called sculptrakay maybe even Orientle was doing that
Speaker 3: or something like that. But the downside of that is
Speaker 3: that it's very costly. So if you think of filler
Speaker 3: like many exactly. So if you think of filler is
Speaker 3: by the one and so you're paying like one hundreds
Speaker 3: of dollars to see how much result in your butt,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about this new wave of booties?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Is it has it brought a lot of business to me?
Speaker 1: I'm sure it has the industry, but like, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about it?
Speaker 5: Is like it just seems like ridiculous, ridoculous, Like I
Speaker 5: go to my gym and I'm just like she sends me,
Speaker 5: she send me, I send her like secret videos of like.
Speaker 1: Some of the people in my gym, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: your legs don't match your ass, bitch, you didn't know.
Speaker 1: And they're over there and I see them. It's always them.
Speaker 5: They're always ones checking themselves out in the mirror like
Speaker 5: they're kind of a little insecure.
Speaker 1: I can see like they're like it's anyone else.
Speaker 5: And they're always doing booty exercises because you have to,
Speaker 5: like if their only thing, the only reason they bought
Speaker 5: this membership was to do squats, like because the video.
Speaker 1: That because they have to maintain it. They have to
Speaker 1: like keep it.
Speaker 5: I mean that's what I heard. It's like once you
Speaker 5: get a brazillion like boo a Brazilian butt job, Yes,
Speaker 5: you kind of have to maintain it. You got to
Speaker 5: work to like keep it lifted. At some points you
Speaker 5: can't just like sit on and then and also can
Speaker 5: you can not sit on your.
Speaker 3: Ass for like a while about four to six weeks.
Speaker 3: There are these cushion Uh well, there's these cushions. You
Speaker 3: it basically goes behind your thighs, so your butt it's
Speaker 3: kind of pressure and you do I have I advise
Speaker 3: my patients to sleep on their stomach for about four
Speaker 3: to six weeks because the more pressure you keep on it,
Speaker 3: the more of.
Speaker 1: It dies that and also could change the shape potentially. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then depending on what thea some of these
Speaker 3: patients want more like wider hips for example, So if
Speaker 3: we grabbed fat into the hips, then definitely can't lay
Speaker 3: on your side either, right, But to answer by the wave,
Speaker 3: there definitely is a wave. It's definitely a more popular
Speaker 3: procedure these days.
Speaker 1: Do you find it with older women too, like or
Speaker 1: is it mostly it's.
Speaker 3: Mostly younger mostly younger women And I and I think
Speaker 3: you know Instagram has for better or for worse.
Speaker 1: It's happening. O. Our kids are bad as well, specifically line.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Instagram has better for better for worse, you know,
Speaker 3: perpetuated this sort of wave as as as you mentioned,
Speaker 3: you know, and you you sort of just alluded this
Speaker 3: is now it's like, it's it's tough because you have
Speaker 3: all these Instagram models, you know, sort of utilizing everybody's
Speaker 3: desire to become healthy and fit, and they're using that
Speaker 3: into their own kind of benefit. By a lot of
Speaker 3: them have gotten bbls because you can tell, oh.
Speaker 1: They're lying, making people feel like if I take flying exactly.
Speaker 3: If I take this whatever I'm promoting, you're gonna look
Speaker 3: like me. But you know you can clearly tell that
Speaker 3: they're not.
Speaker 5: It's not just from working out, well it's working out.
Speaker 5: It's also face tune and a bunch of apps and
Speaker 5: all types of social media. So that's fucked the generations
Speaker 5: before us, but not us. I mean afterwards we have
Speaker 5: Speaking of social media, has anyone ever come in and
Speaker 5: been like, I have a million followers, Like, will you discount?
Speaker 3: I was gonna I've actually I've actually treated well, you
Speaker 3: know what, you know, what the with the all social
Speaker 3: media influence that I'm sure you guys know when I
Speaker 3: was in North Carolina at Duke, it was like social
Speaker 3: media is like you know, it's it's it's a different
Speaker 3: culture obviously out there and here. So you know, when
Speaker 3: I came back here and started to to feel the scene,
Speaker 3: I learned all about social media, social media influencers, and
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's like these instance stars, I mean
Speaker 3: props to them, instant stars. They have ability to you know,
Speaker 3: advertise and make money just from their stuff. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've had ad that.
Speaker 1: Do you give them a discount?
Speaker 3: It's it all depends on you know, it's it's hit
Speaker 3: or miss. It's every social media influencer is not the same,
Speaker 3: so some will. It's sort of like a mutual relationship.
Speaker 3: So I've had one where she promoted me and then
Speaker 3: I gave her a discount because it's sort of an
Speaker 3: exchange because she's using her marketing capability to get a discous.
Speaker 1: When we get five hundred k on video?
Speaker 3: Are you going to make me rich?
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Speaker 1: Do I need?
Speaker 3: Well for you too, since your special automatic lady, I
Speaker 3: already got my boobs for you know, people listening as well.
Speaker 1: Although my nipples are too big, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: too scared to ever read your nipples got bigger after
Speaker 1: they did get bigger.
Speaker 3: The nipples are the area the colored part, I mean the.
Speaker 5: Areola is stretched because my boobs and I didn't think
Speaker 5: about that because he asked me if I wanted to
Speaker 5: make them smaller, and I was like, no, my boobs
Speaker 5: My nipples are for my aerials are fine. But you
Speaker 5: didn't realize and I didn't realize they were going to
Speaker 5: get even bigger. They were already big to begin with.
Speaker 3: So if if you wanted to reduce them, we would.
Speaker 5: But I'm scared that I'm if I reduce them, that
Speaker 5: I will really really lose the sensation like this one
Speaker 5: came back.
Speaker 1: I don't want to risk it. I'm like, it's cool,
Speaker 1: you're good.
Speaker 5: My nipples are not, Like it's not stopping and it's
Speaker 5: not stopping my flow, so we're good.
Speaker 1: But when I look in the mirror, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have just done that.
Speaker 3: But let me say, but there are waste. There's basically
Speaker 3: one way to reduce them if you wanted to.
Speaker 5: And also this this nipple, my left nipple areola sorry,
Speaker 5: scarred more than this one.
Speaker 1: This one's totally flat, and this one has kind of
Speaker 1: like a ribbing a little bit. That's hard for aleinated
Speaker 1: skin too.
Speaker 3: We tend yeah, me included. And you guys, there's a
Speaker 3: higher chance of getting hyperplementation, so dark darkening of the
Speaker 3: scar Yeah, that's so, what's my option you mean for
Speaker 3: the aerial reduction? So basically, to try to simplify it,
Speaker 3: we take two kind of like two cookie cutters, yea
Speaker 3: three sizes one the size of what you want to be.
Speaker 3: We can talk about that.
Speaker 7: So what do you do?
Speaker 1: Do you just take my nipple off and you put
Speaker 1: a cookie cutter on?
Speaker 3: You go? We don't take it off, okay, So we
Speaker 3: cut around it. Then we cut a bigger circle around it,
Speaker 3: and then we just close it down.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you don't actually have to take it
Speaker 5: on the nile there, So then I wouldn't lose sensation.
Speaker 3: We just go through the skin, the outer layers. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't go into the rest is.
Speaker 1: Yet, So then you think I would lose sation.
Speaker 3: Then well, I mean, here's a question of the question.
Speaker 3: I can't guarantee, but okay, but my suspicion is that
Speaker 3: if we're going to go through the skin, it's not
Speaker 3: going to worsen what you have now, okay. And then
Speaker 3: we do a little purse stream, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: like a purse stream, pull the ends of the it
Speaker 3: just strenks down. Interesting, So it's a quick procedure.
Speaker 1: Okay. I have a question, speaking of social media influence
Speaker 1: our promo code with no, we are going to like
Speaker 1: my name in it. Yeah for sure. But hi, Brian.
Speaker 7: B oh, okay, how do you feel? Okay social media
Speaker 7: and okay, ay, we're from LA. Obviously, anybody listening from
Speaker 7: anywhere else in the world that's not overly obsessed with
Speaker 7: looking beautiful like LA's the LA's I looked. I was
Speaker 7: looking this up before when I know you were coming today. Like,
Speaker 7: the vanity levels in LA are definitely higher. Statistics say
Speaker 7: it's because the weather is warmer, so people are wearing
Speaker 7: less clothes and so you become more body conscious.
Speaker 1: Also, we're shallow, but I've noticed, I know you've noticed.
Speaker 7: Used to be like, okay, I used to go to
Speaker 7: the club and then you see like that woman who's old,
Speaker 7: but she will refuses to let it happen. So she's
Speaker 7: just like at the club, like looking two eyed, open
Speaker 7: to out, titties to their chin, like, bitch, let let
Speaker 7: the happen happen. Now I go to UAU and I'm like,
Speaker 7: first of all, I feel like I'm the oldest bitch here.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 7: And bitches are like women, women are like twenty three,
Speaker 7: like I'm I can clearly see they've had hello work done.
Speaker 7: Their lips, too cheap bonds, and they're like twenty three
Speaker 7: years old. I'm like, bitch, already, let it happen. Well, like,
Speaker 7: you know, what's so funny you said that because I
Speaker 7: think I was showing you this video. My friend had
Speaker 7: sent me these videos from college, and I was looking
Speaker 7: at these videos of me from college, and I had
Speaker 7: such a baby face.
Speaker 1: Like I thought I was so grown there, right do
Speaker 1: but thank you.
Speaker 5: But like I was looking at them though even then,
Speaker 5: and I had such like I look like a child,
Speaker 5: and thank god social media, like all I had then
Speaker 5: was Facebook in my Space, but like my I had
Speaker 5: not I had not yet grown into my face as
Speaker 5: a woman, like really chiseled cheek bones like the ones
Speaker 5: that I have now.
Speaker 1: And like a more hollowed out face, like you know
Speaker 1: it's there.
Speaker 3: No no, so I saw that.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, I'm really I like, what's happening here? Okay,
Speaker 5: But I just mean, like it's I look different than
Speaker 5: I did when I got to so as you don't
Speaker 5: even show you have these kids are not even allowing
Speaker 5: themselves to like mature like you're eighteen.
Speaker 1: Of course you can get classic surgery.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not even allowing to show you to mature
Speaker 5: themselves into that space. Like when I was that age, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I have like a dowah er face, and I did
Speaker 5: have cheek bones, but now my cheap ones, I feel
Speaker 5: like are more scentuated.
Speaker 1: I just have a more more mature face. I still
Speaker 1: look at your face is still developing. I mean probably
Speaker 1: kids don't give it time. They just want the mature Kim.
Speaker 5: Kardashian chiseled, high cheekbone hollowed out like this.
Speaker 1: Area fut insane and like I feel like I got that.
Speaker 5: But I just I had to wait a little longer
Speaker 5: to just mature into it, whereas these girls are building it.
Speaker 7: And also like in LA like Beverly Hills High specifically,
Speaker 7: like no, it's a first of all, I want to
Speaker 7: know the laws on this, because, first of all, like
Speaker 7: I know, girls like as a sixteenth birthday present, you
Speaker 7: get nose jobs, and as an eighteenth birthday present, you
Speaker 7: get boobs. It's like a thing, and it's not unheard of,
Speaker 7: and I mean, obviously it's fucking nuts, but I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 7: can you give a child, a sixteen year old child
Speaker 7: with their parents permission and a nose job?
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you can't. I know it, Yes, what's
Speaker 1: the youngest you can?
Speaker 3: What about boobs? So boobs is a little bit different
Speaker 3: because the name plants, they actually have regulation on age.
Speaker 3: So for silicon implants.
Speaker 7: Or the actual implant has a regulation. But because of
Speaker 7: not is not implanting anything foreign, then it's easier to you.
Speaker 3: Know, Actually, that's a good point you bring up. I
Speaker 3: don't know if necessarily it has to do with implanting
Speaker 3: something per se, but for silicon, implant is a twenty
Speaker 3: two year old, twenty two year age.
Speaker 1: Cut off twenty one.
Speaker 3: So if a twenty one year old girl actually had
Speaker 3: just recently, a twenty year old girl come in she
Speaker 3: wanted a breast augmentation, and we were just talking about
Speaker 3: sale versus silicon, which we can talk about, and I
Speaker 3: told her, you know, you need your parents' permission for
Speaker 3: if you wanted.
Speaker 1: Silicon, but that sale would be okay.
Speaker 3: Because it's saline. Is you know, it's a little bit
Speaker 3: arbitrary how the companies decide that, But yeah, they did.
Speaker 3: They've decided that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, which one's more expensive? I have silicon? Somebody
Speaker 1: had to take a feel and see if you would know. Oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: a mentor. A mentor. Mentors is the type of breast.
Speaker 3: Company.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so if I go to a doctor and he
Speaker 7: probably works with like five, he'll give me the option
Speaker 7: of which company that has the field that I prefer.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, there's different they have.
Speaker 5: Of course, people come in and sell you ship, right,
Speaker 5: And like my doctor was had mentor, he had gummy bear.
Speaker 1: I heard of the gummy bear. Theyed to be big.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it because it's too I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just felt like it was just one, like it's
Speaker 1: just like like a gummy bear, like it slowly came. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's like it's literally like a droopy.
Speaker 5: It's like a it looks like a tear tear drop. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so it's more like a They say it looks more natural. Okay,
Speaker 5: but I don't have tear drops. I mean, I don't
Speaker 5: have gummy Bear, just a mentor. I think I can't
Speaker 5: remember what my I should look and see.
Speaker 3: What the pless just have to do with sales reps too,
Speaker 3: because there's different companies making breastling plants, and you know,
Speaker 3: depending on the deal kickback from it's not it's it's
Speaker 3: not a kickback for sure, but the more a plastic
Speaker 3: surgeon uses one particular brand. Uh, then the then the
Speaker 3: the price goes down a little bit lower each time,
Speaker 3: not each implant. But you know, if if a guy
Speaker 3: who's been.
Speaker 7: Incentive crazy, the more productive money is.
Speaker 1: Just like if you were I was a.
Speaker 7: Liquor dealer and you're selling a lot of the trunk,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give you more bottles.
Speaker 3: For exactly like you throw parties from me and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. But generally speaking, there aren't huge differences in
Speaker 3: product quality. So her Mentor versus the Allergan, you know, they.
Speaker 1: Probably have same quality but different fields.
Speaker 3: Yeah, different The fuel actually might be about the same.
Speaker 3: It's just a different product, but same same like contents.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at these I'm looking at these emails I
Speaker 5: sent my doctor because I'm fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: I was like, look look at me. I put like
Speaker 1: arrows like this one doesn't look nice. This one it's
Speaker 1: a little flat under here. What's happening?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're one of those patients' excuse me.
Speaker 1: What is happening here? I just that's not what I
Speaker 1: asked for. Look look for the blog. Look over here.
Speaker 1: Can you see that this one's a little fun? Did
Speaker 1: it fun didn't fill out and I'm trying to see
Speaker 1: he sent me my before and after pictures too, Did
Speaker 1: it fill out though? Yeah, it finally dropped. It was
Speaker 1: just I was being like, okay, so this is my
Speaker 1: moobs before?
Speaker 3: Oh wow, like I thought my I was, I mean
Speaker 3: they look great.
Speaker 1: Yeah they don't, you know?
Speaker 3: They look okay?
Speaker 1: Okay to me?
Speaker 10: I see that's that that moves that tear drop mine?
Speaker 10: Is that an of naturally tear dropped opinion? Like he
Speaker 10: was like, you know you've lost Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 10: all women ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but where's my after?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: Going back to a former previous question. So, breast lagmentation
Speaker 3: is for a volume, right, Okay, So let's say if
Speaker 3: if you just you know, was born with if you
Speaker 3: were born with you know, smaller breasts, and you wanted
Speaker 3: to increase the volume, so breast you put you play
Speaker 3: a breasting plan. Okay. So when we talk about breast lifts,
Speaker 3: is you look at the nipple position? Okay, so oh
Speaker 3: you had if you notice a little bit of the
Speaker 3: nipple is pulling slightly downward, they recommend it's called breasttosis. Right,
Speaker 3: So breast droopiness as this one looks good.
Speaker 1: Wait, let me look. Speaking of breast list, let me
Speaker 1: tell you what Erica did.
Speaker 7: So she goes to the doctor and she didn't know
Speaker 7: if she needed a lift and an implant or she
Speaker 7: just going to an implant.
Speaker 3: So she told the doctor, by the way, she doesn't
Speaker 3: need anything, but they do look bomb.
Speaker 7: But she told the doctor she wasn't sure, and she said,
Speaker 7: when she put the implant in, lift my lip body up,
Speaker 7: take a photo and send it to my mom.
Speaker 1: And then she told her, mom, you.
Speaker 7: Need to make the executive decision while I'm out on
Speaker 7: the table because I'm not sure, because he.
Speaker 5: Said he said, I might be able to get away
Speaker 5: without a lift, but you might need to lift, but
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Gonna be able to wake you up and asking.
Speaker 5: So I was like, okay, great, well, then send my
Speaker 5: mom a picture of me with the imp guy and
Speaker 5: let her make the decisions.
Speaker 1: I have a photo. Don't happen.
Speaker 3: So it might sound crazy, but actually for your just
Speaker 3: just because you showed me the picture, it actually makes
Speaker 3: total sense because you have a slight droopiness, right, And
Speaker 3: do you remember what volume you placed?
Speaker 1: I think it's four twenty, okay, so it's it's it's.
Speaker 3: Sort of on the middle to higher side of things.
Speaker 3: So what what can happen is if you place let's say,
Speaker 3: if you play six hundred c season years, you know
Speaker 3: it would actually that in itself would maybe lift the
Speaker 3: best nipple up and see one of my votes, this.
Speaker 1: One's like is like lower than that one. That's what
Speaker 1: nipples higher. Because they're sisters. They're not twins. That's that's
Speaker 1: what you are. And that's exactly what he said. They're
Speaker 1: not going to be the same. Wait.
Speaker 7: You could just see Erica limp face and like two
Speaker 7: nurses holding her up, and she's just like look.
Speaker 1: And it's like anyway, her mom went with the lift
Speaker 1: and the implant.
Speaker 3: So he literally like you.
Speaker 1: It was live. This is like before and after. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, no, my mom. He sent me a pick
Speaker 1: my mom.
Speaker 5: He sent my mom a picture of me in like
Speaker 5: miss literally she lifts me up and send it so
Speaker 5: she can say that.
Speaker 1: Then my mom was like, give her the list?
Speaker 11: Did she hesitated all she was she s just like boom.
Speaker 11: I just remember I came out to make a decisions.
Speaker 11: I remember I was like fucked up and I got
Speaker 11: She said, yes, baby got it. And she's like and
Speaker 11: she's like, I'll pay for it. I pay for the
Speaker 11: lift because I made you get it. You better believe
Speaker 11: I didn't forget about that.
Speaker 1: After I paid everything, I was like, Mom, remember you
Speaker 1: said you'd pay for that. You remember that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: can I get that twenty five hundred? It's your decision me.
Speaker 1: You actually made that happen for me. I didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 3: So just just to comment on your result, it looks
Speaker 3: it looks great, but no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: one thing I'm sure your surgeon told you about with
Speaker 3: these pery area olders. So the cut around the colored
Speaker 3: part one of the not necessarily it's not really it's
Speaker 3: not really a complication. But what can happen is that
Speaker 3: it can widen. That's what you're experiencing, right wait.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, if if you cut not on the area
Speaker 1: like look see like look.
Speaker 5: At my area.
Speaker 3: In this procedure, sort of one of the like the
Speaker 3: highest things that happened. So that's sort of anticipating because.
Speaker 1: Because like the implant stretches it.
Speaker 3: Out to right, well, implant and just the skin itself.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much skin he took out, but
Speaker 3: but the nature of trying to close the skin back.
Speaker 1: Let's see that. That's what I was concerned about. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why.
Speaker 7: That's why you can notice because your nipples are not
Speaker 7: that well right now, I feel like your nipples have gone.
Speaker 1: It's not like that anymore.
Speaker 12: It's like your nipples are no, mym just used to
Speaker 12: looking at them. I don't know, but I like and no,
Speaker 12: they're fine. Some guys like, would you would you perform
Speaker 12: surgery wife? Like, is this like as she plastic surgeon?
Speaker 3: Yes, I would.
Speaker 1: Would you you would.
Speaker 5: Prefer to actually you would prefer to do it on
Speaker 5: your own wife? Or would you have like one of
Speaker 5: your colleagues do it?
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's a that's a great question because
Speaker 3: she actually had a previous rhinoplasty for breathing issues, and
Speaker 3: with time it's sort of developed what we call it.
Speaker 3: It's a little scientific but an inverted V deformity, So
Speaker 3: we're trying to think of when the proper time is
Speaker 3: to to redo it. So I would be more than
Speaker 3: happy to do it, of course. It's like you, it's
Speaker 3: a little different operating on someone you love. Yes, because
Speaker 3: I mean not that I don't care the same for
Speaker 3: other people. It's it's a different feeling.
Speaker 1: I've heard that there are surgeons that will not perform
Speaker 1: surgery and people.
Speaker 3: They now, you're absolutely right. I know surgeons because it
Speaker 3: is too close. There are surgeons who refer to their
Speaker 3: friends to have you know, his family member operator on
Speaker 3: because they just can't do the active cutting.
Speaker 1: I've also seen men who create their dream life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're naturally. There's one guy actually who is. He's
Speaker 5: a black surgeon. I know his do you know what
Speaker 5: I'm talking about? He does all He's done a lot
Speaker 5: of that Kardashian and Amber Rose and.
Speaker 7: China, and he actually invented Garth Fish nood guy. Right,
Speaker 7: He's like he invented the vaginal reconstruction laser surgery.
Speaker 5: My mom was like, you need to go to Garth
Speaker 5: Fisher for my boobs, and I read I went on
Speaker 5: real self.
Speaker 1: He had terrible reviews.
Speaker 5: He has a horrible bedside manner apparently, which is important
Speaker 5: to me. But his boobs looks he's legendary. Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: like legendary for his boobs. Well, also, charge's ridiculous amount.
Speaker 5: But what's ridiculous, like twenty five thousand boob? What was
Speaker 5: an average book? How much do you charge for a book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it ranges, you know, it ranges from anywhere
Speaker 3: from six to about eight or nine. I think is
Speaker 3: competitive pricing and more. As you know, on real self,
Speaker 3: you can get sort of the average depending on location.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of factors that go in as
Speaker 3: as I mentioned earlier, there's you know, the business aspects.
Speaker 3: So let's say if I actually do operate in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 3: I don't have an office in Beverly Hills. But if
Speaker 3: you had an office in Beverly Hills, the least, the
Speaker 3: least there is like insane. So yes, Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: I didn't pay that much, but I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: get in Beverly Hills either.
Speaker 5: I went to San Diego, which I still paid a
Speaker 5: pretty fucking penny, especially because I got a lift.
Speaker 1: Also, who is the guy steveson?
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, but so it kind in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Oh no, on Beverly Hills. What was his name? He's Persian.
Speaker 1: He had like some crazy last name.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of Persian.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But anyways, I mean, so if you look at real self,
Speaker 3: like if you look at Sherman Oaks, you know, breast augmentation.
Speaker 3: It'll give you a different price in Beverly Hills. It's
Speaker 3: just be competitive. You gotta be like you got to
Speaker 3: be looking at the area that you're you're in.
Speaker 5: So you have a daughter, I do have a baby,
Speaker 5: but if at one point in one day, one point
Speaker 5: because unfortunately we live in this time of social media,
Speaker 5: which I mean me and Tom able to talk about
Speaker 5: a lot, because there are like I feel, especially like
Speaker 5: I have a brother who's in high school and like
Speaker 5: recently he showed me like his friends, like the girls
Speaker 5: at his school on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And like it's insane.
Speaker 5: They're like fifteen year old, sixteen year old instagrams out
Speaker 5: of fucking they look literally look grown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because my brother probably so mature, and well you
Speaker 1: know they be mature. They don't they don't get me. Look, look,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I was mature in high school.
Speaker 5: I had a mature body when I was sixteen, but
Speaker 5: I wasn't like advertising.
Speaker 1: It on Instagram.
Speaker 5: But a lot of like I think they're all they're
Speaker 5: obviously influenced by the Kylie Jenners of the world.
Speaker 1: Honestly, one hundred percent. That's big.
Speaker 5: That's that is like where it came from right her,
Speaker 5: honest specifically, and it's grown from different break.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry too, minutes, I need to take a pee break.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we can wrap it up.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, someone to ask you a question, but.
Speaker 1: I I as now having a daughter to you too.
Speaker 1: We have our kids are.
Speaker 5: Close in age and thinking about social media and the
Speaker 5: influence that has on our kids, you know, body confidence.
Speaker 1: And what they think is normal, what they think is beautiful.
Speaker 5: If your daughter came to you as an eighteen year
Speaker 5: old or even less and talks about plastic surgery, would
Speaker 5: you just sway would you like sway her away from it?
Speaker 5: Or would you what would you say to her as
Speaker 5: a plastic surgeon.
Speaker 3: It would be sort of a yes and no. And
Speaker 3: this also kind of delves into the interesting thing about
Speaker 3: plastic surgery, the artistic aspect of it. In classic surgery,
Speaker 3: there are you know, we learn about ideal guidelines for
Speaker 3: you know, for example, the nose, you know certain proportions,
Speaker 3: certain angles of the nose. In terms of breast surgery,
Speaker 3: you know the distance from your neck to your nipple.
Speaker 3: You know these all these measurements are given to us
Speaker 3: as guidelines. And the reason I'm telling explaining this is
Speaker 3: that to answer your question about the daughter thing, is
Speaker 3: it batterally a little bit? So every plastic surgeon there's
Speaker 3: a little bit of bias in every encounter with the patient.
Speaker 3: So what I think would look good on you maybe
Speaker 3: totally different than from doctor X, you know in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 3: for example. You know what he thinks. So so if
Speaker 3: my daughter came to me, I would have to impart
Speaker 3: my personal sort of bias on what she wants. But
Speaker 3: I guess long story short, yes, I would allow her
Speaker 3: to have plastic surgery. But know if it all depends
Speaker 3: on if it's within sort of the guidelines of what
Speaker 3: I was taught and what looks what I think looks good.
Speaker 5: But would you make her wait until a certain age
Speaker 5: or would you allow her to do it at the
Speaker 5: earliest age possible?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say eighteen if she's an adult.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't really hold her back if it's sixteen.
Speaker 1: Well you because I guess who's gonna pay for.
Speaker 3: It, That's true, it would be.
Speaker 1: Mommy, You're right, which is probably coming for the same account.
Speaker 13: Right exactly, But I think I would you know this
Speaker 13: is this is not like as it may sound sound
Speaker 13: like it's easy for me to say yes at this point,
Speaker 13: but you know, I've actually thought about this before and
Speaker 13: have come to the conclusion that you know, yes would
Speaker 13: be the answer, but it's not easy.
Speaker 3: It's not easy for me to say yes. I'm surprised
Speaker 3: by that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think that you in this time between two
Speaker 1: and sixteen years from now, is it because you are
Speaker 1: a plastic surgeon, because she's will become aware of what
Speaker 1: you do? Do you think that you would be even
Speaker 1: more diligent and kind of encouraging and.
Speaker 5: Encouraging her to embrace what she already has or is
Speaker 5: that something that's on your mind only because of the
Speaker 5: world we live in and because of the industry that
Speaker 5: you work in, trying to sway her away from it
Speaker 5: and just.
Speaker 1: Like encourage her to just love who she is.
Speaker 5: Or is it just like you know what, She's gonna
Speaker 5: do what she wants to do, regardless of whatever encouragement
Speaker 5: I give her.
Speaker 1: Like where do you fall on that spectrum?
Speaker 3: Do you think that? Is absolutely great question? And just
Speaker 3: my gut feeling right now is that I don't necessarily
Speaker 3: thing I would sway her or away or towards it
Speaker 3: because I know that, and I'm sure you guys have
Speaker 3: you moms have experiences as well. The more you have
Speaker 3: your child go one way or the other, they want
Speaker 3: to do the other. They want to go.
Speaker 1: Over psychology, right, I got it. Oh yeah, actually, you
Speaker 1: know those books are a little small, I guess.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's drooling.
Speaker 1: Do you know I have a vampire? Erica just took
Speaker 1: us out of her red wine while I said that,
Speaker 1: and it literally.
Speaker 3: Like to put it sort of bluntly, I guess, to
Speaker 3: try to explain it concisely, is I would probably in
Speaker 3: a way treat her like a patient in the sense
Speaker 3: that I would tell her the benefits and the risks
Speaker 3: if she pursued either way, and try to guide her,
Speaker 3: you know, try to let her give her all the
Speaker 3: information that she can and then and then go from there.
Speaker 1: My mom told me I needed botox in my teenager
Speaker 1: and my teenagers? Are you kidding?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: She where? Okay? So, first of all, my mom is
Speaker 1: in the business of youth. Oh that's true, she is.
Speaker 1: My mom is a professional makeup artist for a very
Speaker 1: long time. So you know, she looks.
Speaker 7: Her job is to look at faces, and her fucking
Speaker 7: mom invented beauty blender.
Speaker 1: Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3: I don't that sounds.
Speaker 1: They're like, what it is? Super major? It's yeah, she
Speaker 1: does know.
Speaker 7: It's like the most needed tool of all make up
Speaker 7: applications in life. Okay, it's the pink egg shape sponge.
Speaker 4: Why don't we.
Speaker 5: Fun? But anyway, my mom here, do you know she's
Speaker 5: she's she's very into beauty, and uh, I think she's
Speaker 5: a Libra. I think Libra specifically are also very perfectionist
Speaker 5: beauty too, vain pretty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty.
Speaker 5: So I'll never forget. I'll never forget where I was too.
Speaker 5: When she told me this, we were the Korean spot
Speaker 5: we Naked Flavorable. We were actually at Natura in Koreatown,
Speaker 5: and she was like, you know, honey, one day, you're
Speaker 5: probably going to be botox right here in the middle
Speaker 5: of it between my eyebrow, since you guys probably can't
Speaker 5: if you're watch this on youtubec but.
Speaker 1: If not, we're listening.
Speaker 5: She told me in between my eyebrush, like, you know,
Speaker 5: you have a very strong muscle there. You frown a
Speaker 5: lot and you don't even realize you're doing it. And
Speaker 5: I was like, sixteen or seventeen at the time, and
Speaker 5: I was like, no, I don't. I'm perfect, I don't
Speaker 5: need botox an I'm not.
Speaker 1: And I was so pissed.
Speaker 5: I was like, I told all my friends that my
Speaker 5: mom's tond mean botox. Fuck I'm seventeen and I was pissed.
Speaker 1: So well, this is the most la story I've ever
Speaker 1: told anywhere else. I didn't even know what really botox
Speaker 1: was at the time. I was like, what, like, I
Speaker 1: need surgery on my he that made you anti surgery?
Speaker 1: It did my mom's because she had said it.
Speaker 5: She'd said she did it like maybe twice in my life,
Speaker 5: and those two times really affected me because I was like.
Speaker 1: You're my mom, what the fuck?
Speaker 5: Like specifically to you, She's like, you are perfect, but
Speaker 5: it's not about being perfect.
Speaker 1: It's about maintaining. It's about it's maintenance.
Speaker 5: It's not that you have a line there yet, it's
Speaker 5: that eventually you will and you should stop it from
Speaker 5: how would you tell me?
Speaker 3: Reading?
Speaker 1: So the long the short story, long story, long story,
Speaker 1: short stories like do you got you got it? I
Speaker 1: got botox much later in life, not at seventeen, probably
Speaker 1: the last year and two years because I did it
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, she's right, I am getting a line there.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you just told me the story,
Speaker 1: now I'm like looking at the forehead. Well, I haven't
Speaker 1: had botox.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of coming back, but I know I com
Speaker 3: me back.
Speaker 1: I haven't had it in like eight months. But when
Speaker 1: brings attention to you noticed the yab bitch. Well now
Speaker 1: you mentioned it.
Speaker 3: You know, I do have to agree with your mom,
Speaker 3: but she probably could have delivered that better.
Speaker 5: But I do have a strong muscle here and I
Speaker 5: do use it a lot and I don't even realize it,
Speaker 5: and because of it, I'm getting like this like a
Speaker 5: little imprint here.
Speaker 3: So botox is not only maintenance, it's actually prevention. So
Speaker 3: if you started early enough and I'm not by no means,
Speaker 3: am I you know, promoting like you know eighteen years ago,
Speaker 3: and get botox. But so think of the analogy I
Speaker 3: like to use is think of a piece of cardboard, right,
Speaker 3: So the more you bend it, the deeper that fold gets, right,
Speaker 3: got it. So if you cannot bend the cardboard, then
Speaker 3: the fold kind of stays or potentially can get better.
Speaker 3: So think of the cardboard like your skin. So the
Speaker 3: muscle under your forehead is different. Talus muscle in it.
Speaker 3: When you're you know, when you raise your eyebrows or
Speaker 3: when you're you know, laughing, you know, it moves right,
Speaker 3: so it moves the skin over it. So that's why
Speaker 3: you have the wrinkles if you frown. You know, the
Speaker 3: muscles here, the seras muscle. Actually it actually activates this
Speaker 3: way inwards, so it causes it causes the lines. So
Speaker 3: what botox does it it weakens the activity of the muscle,
Speaker 3: so prevents your muscle.
Speaker 1: And it essentially paralyzes it.
Speaker 3: Essentially. Yeah, and there's different degrees. You know, like you know,
Speaker 3: you can do a little bit of paralysis, you can
Speaker 3: do full paralysis.
Speaker 5: Like I know, I'm all about like I need, I
Speaker 5: need to look like I can have expression. So anytime
Speaker 5: I've gotten botox, it has been very conservative. It's been
Speaker 5: like here and like like a little bit here. Oh
Speaker 5: my god, I'd be the mirror. Like but even the
Speaker 5: fact that I've gotten botox is so strange to me
Speaker 5: because I was so anti this before and before this, and.
Speaker 1: Like, honestly, I'm kind of embarrassed even you know what
Speaker 1: everybody knows.
Speaker 5: But like I you know, I think you know, but
Speaker 5: I look because I work in beauty and I'm surrounded
Speaker 5: by so many beauty influencers that have excessive work done.
Speaker 1: Honestly, like, it's it's fucking ridiculous because.
Speaker 7: When you're in that line and you're on the front
Speaker 7: lines of social media, you're constantly examining yourself.
Speaker 1: You're constantly I mean, we do it and we're not.
Speaker 5: I mean, I see girls with their lips, the lips
Speaker 5: are too much, and it's just like it looks like
Speaker 5: you it's and I just it's not. I don't I
Speaker 5: want I don't want to look like I've had anything done.
Speaker 5: And a lot of these girls the look that they
Speaker 5: are going for the look like they've had it done.
Speaker 5: Like for me, like, I don't want to look like
Speaker 5: I've had my boobs done. That's why I told my doctor,
Speaker 5: make them sag a little bit, like I don't want
Speaker 5: them hot.
Speaker 1: He's like, you're probably gonna have to get another lift
Speaker 1: at some point. I was like, that's fine, he said
Speaker 1: that to you, but he was like, at some point,
Speaker 1: if you have another kid, you might need a lift.
Speaker 5: But because your boobs are like at the perfect point
Speaker 5: of like sagginess, so give it like if it SAgs anymore,
Speaker 5: you might be disappointed. And I was like, I'd rather
Speaker 5: that than the opposite, because I really I like the naturalness,
Speaker 5: like I don't want to look.
Speaker 1: Like I have anything done, and even like as far as.
Speaker 5: This line goes in the middle of my forehead. But
Speaker 5: then my mom gave me a complex about at age seventeen,
Speaker 5: like even that, like I'm just very conserved. I still
Speaker 5: want to have motion, like emotion in my face. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm on I do like broadcast television, like I need
Speaker 5: to be able to be expressive and just in life
Speaker 5: in general, I can express myself, Like I just want
Speaker 5: to look like I can like smile or cry, like
Speaker 5: not like came when she cries and it's just like,
Speaker 5: you know, like that fucking cry face she has looks
Speaker 5: terrifying because her fucking muscles are paralyzed. Oh wow, that's
Speaker 5: why that literally, that's why that photo went viral because
Speaker 5: literally didn't move.
Speaker 1: Oh not makes sense. I mean also, I mean, fuck,
Speaker 1: I think there has.
Speaker 7: To be a thin line between you know, preventive botox
Speaker 7: and prevented this and.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, and just good old fucking aging. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's inevitable. We're gonna die, We're gonna get older,
Speaker 1: and imagine.
Speaker 7: And like and I understand looking up and not recognizing
Speaker 7: yourself or like you know who the I used to
Speaker 7: be hot, you know. And then there's another line where
Speaker 7: it's like bitches are literally women are literally can't handle
Speaker 7: the process. You know. It's just like when we're young
Speaker 7: or even you know you you see the old bitch
Speaker 7: in the club snare at you.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: I've seen your posts. You're still hot this she.
Speaker 5: Like I think it's like, yeah, it's not giving into
Speaker 5: that aging process like Madonna.
Speaker 1: Okay, like Madonna's starting like the cat.
Speaker 5: Lady, Like I mean a lot of bitches look at
Speaker 5: but it's like nick in, yeah, it looks crazy like
Speaker 5: she's to be hot.
Speaker 1: Like I'm all about like before my obviously I'm one
Speaker 1: of those people.
Speaker 5: This perspective has changed as far as plastic surgery because
Speaker 5: obviously I've had it and I never thought I'd be
Speaker 5: the person to have it, but I get it.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like there's there's like just be
Speaker 1: like self.
Speaker 5: There's some self love that has to happen, not to
Speaker 5: take away from your your put your pockets Brian, but
Speaker 5: there's some self love that has to happen.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like I'm not against a woman
Speaker 1: who wants if that's gonna make you feel better, and
Speaker 1: it is your body, and you do what the fuck
Speaker 1: you want to do with it.
Speaker 5: And that's why even some of these influencers that they make,
Speaker 5: in my personal opinion, I think a lot of them
Speaker 5: were beautiful before.
Speaker 1: But you know, if that's what you needed to feel
Speaker 1: to feel beautiful, then fine and not.
Speaker 5: But I do feel like there's like there's there should
Speaker 5: be some boundaries, there's to be something there.
Speaker 1: It's not my body, so do what you want. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm like, it makes me worried
Speaker 1: for you, like are you okay?
Speaker 5: Like what what else is going on that you feel
Speaker 5: like you need to have, Like lips that are like
Speaker 5: touching your nose, or like boobs that are size you
Speaker 5: have to buy your braw on the internet because they
Speaker 5: don't even have the size breast bra you have at
Speaker 5: the store, like or booties that like.
Speaker 7: Literally all you can wear is fashion. But keep in mind,
Speaker 7: these things are like fashion at this point. It's a
Speaker 7: trend and just like you know, little booties used to
Speaker 7: be in flat bets, like there was a time like
Speaker 7: you know, like certain guys don't really like that big
Speaker 7: ass thing.
Speaker 1: That's an urban body. You know, that's a new scal body.
Speaker 1: I have an old school body.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: That's a whole other conversation about, like basically the adoption
Speaker 5: of trends change ethnic and ethnic body on so many
Speaker 5: of these women that like if ten years ago they
Speaker 5: were making fun of girls with asses that couldn't fit
Speaker 5: into these jeans, or to get to get.
Speaker 3: Ethic, I mean, when did all the white girls have
Speaker 3: all of a sudden bo Now they did it.
Speaker 1: It's never happened. No, but and and that's what I wonder, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, so when this comes out.
Speaker 5: Of trend, and then what are you gonna like liquidate
Speaker 5: your butt out of your exactidate, your booty.
Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. It's a fucking trend. This isn't now,
Speaker 1: and next week it'll be all natural again and you'll
Speaker 1: be fucked and you'll be fifty with that big fat ass.
Speaker 3: That's actually a good question. I've had a question where,
Speaker 3: oh what happens if you want to reverse a BBL
Speaker 3: What is that great question? I mean, the only way
Speaker 3: is the light buolt it out, but there's no way
Speaker 3: to kind of get it back to like.
Speaker 1: Exactly does your booty stretch? Yeah, because someone did. Did
Speaker 1: you cut the skin off?
Speaker 3: You know, unless you want scars?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's never got your life away. Well, for example,
Speaker 1: Keisha Cole, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5: So she has been very public about her ass reduction
Speaker 5: because she got illegal.
Speaker 1: In like a hotel room, like a lot of bitches
Speaker 1: dud and her ass was literally redunculous.
Speaker 5: And now like she's like she's been very vocal about
Speaker 5: her whole process of basically liquefying the ship out of
Speaker 5: her butt, and now she finally has a butt that
Speaker 5: she's satisfied with. She says it's her own butt. Who knows,
Speaker 5: but it actually I mean I saw the picture. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it doesn't look bad.
Speaker 3: But so it depends on what was injected. So there
Speaker 3: has been in the past illegally injected silicone butts. You
Speaker 3: probably heard of this in the news.
Speaker 1: People dying, Yeah, and in the transgender world.
Speaker 3: Too, right, So I mean, if she had that, then
Speaker 3: you have you actually have to excise those.
Speaker 1: It kind of looks air well, it's says airbrush.
Speaker 5: Okay, it was the six surgeries in three months, and
Speaker 5: that ass is still undefeated.
Speaker 1: I told my story to help you women.
Speaker 5: I can walk now. I can walk now and torque
Speaker 5: on a sausage. Still have one more surgery left to
Speaker 5: make it perfect. But I look fucking good and I'm
Speaker 5: going to show it off all the time.
Speaker 1: I earned that.
Speaker 5: Don't like unfollow hits the blunt immediately. I'll begin on
Speaker 5: my nerves and times. But like she you know, she
Speaker 5: was one of those girls that just had this crazy
Speaker 5: ass and like went like that black market way Kardi
Speaker 5: b too, like she's lucky to be alive.
Speaker 1: We're asked, you know, like she's and she's been vocal
Speaker 1: about it too, like what should appreciate her?
Speaker 5: But done in the bronx of an abasement in queens
Speaker 5: or in the bronx or something like people risking their
Speaker 5: lives for that ass.
Speaker 7: I mean that's crazy because you ain't going to have
Speaker 7: no life to shake that ass if you do the
Speaker 7: wrong ass.
Speaker 1: You know, it's dumb.
Speaker 5: So like as far as like reversing surgeries, have you
Speaker 5: done a lot of like reversal surgeries or like fixing
Speaker 5: what other.
Speaker 3: Doctors have done reversals? I guess like a lot of
Speaker 3: revision surgeries. So as you know, like for example, breast
Speaker 3: augmentation capsule can potentially form around the breast and so
Speaker 3: act it gets worse depending on the patient go back.
Speaker 1: What dictates if that may happen.
Speaker 3: There's nothing, there's nothing. It's a little bit of genetics,
Speaker 3: but it's also obviously technique. So we you know, we
Speaker 3: tried to minimize the contamination for the implant as much.
Speaker 4: As we can.
Speaker 5: My doctor was obsessed with letting me know that this
Speaker 5: could happen and it is not responsible and kept saying.
Speaker 3: That no, but but but it's it's something that you know,
Speaker 3: like if I did every break breastmas, I would do
Speaker 3: I would tell them this is a potential, you know,
Speaker 3: as much as I can do.
Speaker 1: There's still certainly outside factors.
Speaker 3: And actually some of the companies now all again they
Speaker 3: have warranties for capsules that form, so they'll cover costs
Speaker 3: of the surgery.
Speaker 1: That's great, that yeah, and exchange your implants.
Speaker 3: And so on and so forth.
Speaker 5: But after that, I'm like, take these motherfuckers out right
Speaker 5: right then what are you left with? The well you
Speaker 5: were left with before, but then your skin's more stretchy
Speaker 5: because after that not not that quickly.
Speaker 1: I mean well, actually, well, capsule contraction can happen years
Speaker 1: later too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could happen a few months, like if you.
Speaker 7: Have it, if you haven't happened way down the line,
Speaker 7: another love and Hip hop star had an issue.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that a Cardi bread Hazily.
Speaker 3: I can't know about reversal. Yeah, I have patients who, like,
Speaker 3: you know, they had breast and plants placed thirty years ago,
Speaker 3: and they're like, you know, after all these years, I
Speaker 3: just don't want there in the way, you know, I
Speaker 3: didn't want the implac anymore. Just take them out. So, yes,
Speaker 3: there are there is reversal of surgery where you just
Speaker 3: reverse it. Granted that you know the patient. You know,
Speaker 3: you have to know that your breast aren't going to
Speaker 3: be like when you were twenty fifteen when they when
Speaker 3: you place them, now there's a pocket, there's a capsule
Speaker 3: there and anyways.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I know somebody who got their breast out
Speaker 5: after twenty years and then took them out and then
Speaker 5: got a lift and they're happy with that. They were
Speaker 5: just they hadn't changed their breasts in twenty years, which
Speaker 5: you know, obviously is not recommended. But when they took
Speaker 5: them out, surprisingly the breasting plant was in perfect condition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everything was fine. But that's not always the
Speaker 1: stories you hear.
Speaker 5: You hear about leaking, you hear about like people being
Speaker 5: chronically ill and not knowing why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all of them all. It's a risk
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a risk, and you need to
Speaker 1: research and you need to make sure that that's for you.
Speaker 1: And I need to come to see Brian.
Speaker 3: You need to Brian.
Speaker 5: I was I've never been an advocate for plastic surgery,
Speaker 5: but now that I've actually had mine and my experience
Speaker 5: was fun, it was good. I'm not I'm not. I
Speaker 5: don't say I'm an advocate. I'm obviously an advocate for
Speaker 5: self love and loving yourself. But for me, like I was,
Speaker 5: there was no love in these cities.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't realize it first. But when I
Speaker 1: didn't realize, I didn't realize, I had no idea. I
Speaker 1: didn't love them until someone else told me. I didn't.
Speaker 7: Right for yourself, they're getting so much love. Actually, the
Speaker 7: guy she's dating didn't even know they're fake. Yeah, Like
Speaker 7: we're sitting there and he's like talking ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, He's like I don't really like I don't like
Speaker 5: that fake ship, Like I don't like girls without that
Speaker 5: fake And we're sitting there and I'm like we're like naked,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, well, I thought my boobs done and.
Speaker 1: He was like what and he was like.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, He's like I had You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like six months ago. At that point, it was like
Speaker 1: nine months and I was like or maybe eight. He's like,
Speaker 1: I had no idea.
Speaker 5: That's great, and I was like thanks, and now we've
Speaker 5: talked about it again and he's like, honestly, like because
Speaker 5: I told him why, I was like, you know, I
Speaker 5: got I was like I didn't really think I needed them,
Speaker 5: and then like I went to some doctors and then
Speaker 5: also off my breast definitely changed after breastfeeding, and he
Speaker 5: he don't.
Speaker 1: He don't give a fuck. These things don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I know, just like guys act like they give a
Speaker 1: fuck about fake booties. They don't. They don't. They'll fuck
Speaker 1: that fake dumb booty too. Give that bitch, don't move.
Speaker 1: They're in it.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 1: They talk ship and then to us and then they're
Speaker 1: going to do it yeah, I hate man.
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, Brian, It's true, but honestly, yeah, and I'm like,
Speaker 14: oh my god, I think like for a long, like
Speaker 14: for like two years straight ahead of Vendetta, like all
Speaker 14: instas because maybe Daddy used to.
Speaker 1: Used to date one and I something. I know, I
Speaker 1: was pissed.
Speaker 7: Anyway, our kids are acting christ specifically Erica and I
Speaker 7: and a sentence do you have any more?
Speaker 1: I think we asked a good amount of questions. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you have any more, I more than do you
Speaker 1: have an Instagram? But maybe our followers.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, So my professional account is doctor Brian Huang
Speaker 3: so d R Brian with an I and h W
Speaker 3: A n G. My Actresses is listed on there. Feel
Speaker 3: free to call me or d m me if you
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about anything plastic surgery related, if you
Speaker 3: have any questions, and if you wanted a consultation will
Speaker 3: be free and I would be glad to talk you
Speaker 3: through it.
Speaker 1: Mentioned you heard him on Good Mom's Bad Choices.
Speaker 3: Choices is definitely a huge plug and I am gladly
Speaker 3: accepting the role of doctor on staff.
Speaker 4: Huge.
Speaker 7: Also, his his wife delivered Luna. Oh yeah, so his
Speaker 7: wife literally delivered my child. So that's a pretty big deal.
Speaker 7: And we became friends and and now we have two
Speaker 7: residents doctors who want a plastic surgeon want to ob gyn.
Speaker 1: And you'll be hearing from her soon. She's going to
Speaker 1: come on and talk about like her experience being ob G.
Speaker 5: I n but yes, and and her probably her experience
Speaker 5: delivering Luna. Oh yeah, we need to hear about that.
Speaker 7: Yes, and specifically dealing with me because I was a bitch.
Speaker 7: Thank god we were friends by that point.
Speaker 1: I was literally in the hospital texting her like I
Speaker 1: don't think any of this is necessary. Where are you?
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. She's like, this bitch is nuts. She gave
Speaker 1: her a very hard time, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: like you, I don't need you. I don't want to
Speaker 1: I don't really know.
Speaker 7: I literally I was like, I want to deliver my
Speaker 7: baby at home, but I'll be glad for you to
Speaker 7: me until that happens. She's like, that sounds like a
Speaker 7: horrible idea. And I was like, okay, okay, I do
Speaker 7: like you can you just come to my house? And
Speaker 7: she said that's illegal. If maybe I had found talked
Speaker 7: to you at Starbucks and you propose this, it could happen,
Speaker 7: but now that you're in my office, it's not happening.
Speaker 5: I was like, you're a bitch, and then she delivered
Speaker 5: her and then she's still living my baby, and the
Speaker 5: rest is history.
Speaker 1: Now we have amazing little Luna.
Speaker 5: And to resident doctors, well, thank you so much for
Speaker 5: coming on and answering our funny, weird, strange questions.
Speaker 3: And no, thank you for having me. And I'd be
Speaker 3: glad if you guys think of any more questions, I'd
Speaker 3: be glad to I'm.
Speaker 5: Sure we have I'm sure we have one. But anyway,
Speaker 5: we will catch you next week and uh have a.
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