1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: We are presented by when bat Betting is a team's 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: four butt together at when Bet. Eric Ellen at the 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine with ESPN Jordan Reach Jordan, thanks so 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: much for stopping by. How has it been working at 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: ESPN by the way, Well, it's been great. I just 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: started in November. I transition from the Draft Network, which 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: is where I was the previous two years. But it's 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: been great just being back inside the combine. We missed 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: this type of element last year, so just being here 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: is a great feeling. So a lot of folks at home, 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: a lot of young people are interested in a position 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: like the one that you currently have. How did you 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: get into scouting as far as now you're doing it 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: at ESPN. Yeah, so my background is a little bit different. 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I came from kind of an unconventional story. I actually 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: played at a small school called North Carolina Central University, 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: which is about five minutes away from Duke. It's a 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: small HBCU in North Carolina. I played there from I 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: was a quarterback, started for three years out of the 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: four years I was there. Got into coaching right after that, 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: a coach for five years, coach quarterbacks and running backs. 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: On my Alma mater, and then I just wanted to 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: figure out a way to combine journalism in the NFL Draft. 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I always loved the NFL Draft when I was growing up, 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: back when it was two round or two days long. 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: If you remember that, it was a parrifon. But I 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: was that kid that sat in front of the TV, 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: sat there and digested the entire time from start to finish. 29 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: My parents would literally have to tell me and man, 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: just go outside and play. Just get out from in 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: front of that TV. So I've always loved the NFL Draft, 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: but I wanted to figure out a way to combine 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: journalism and the NFL Draft. So I took a chance 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: in eighteen, started freelancing a little bit, started a Twitter account, 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: and it ended up working out for me. It certainly 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: has that's great, Uh, give me a scouting report. Jordan 37 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: read the quarterback so very skinny kid, about five ft eleven, 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty pounds when he first got to college, 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: grew a little bit um ended up being about six 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: foot and a half, and his final year he played 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: at about two hundred and ten pounds. Not an overly 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: strong arm, but was extremely accurate. Can work inside and 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: outside of the pocket. But the best part of him 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: was just his leadership abilities and then just the presence 45 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: that he has. Jets aren't looking for a quarterback. But 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: I'll ask you about the class as a whole when 47 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: we get to April. Do you think one or two 48 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: of these guys actually have their names called in the 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: first round? Yeah? I think so. I feel comfortable with 50 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: three guys probably going in the first round right now. 51 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: That would be Liberties Malik Willis Pittsburgh, Kenny Pickett, and 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: then also old Miss Matt Carroll. I think those three 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: have a chance of going in the first round, and 54 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: I feel good about right now. Then you have some 55 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: more wild cards after that. We have Sam how from 56 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: North Carolina who could go in the first round. Then 57 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: also Desmon Riddard from Cincinnati. He has some fans out 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: there too. Any teams do you think would target the 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Jets at number ten to try to get up there 60 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: and make sure they get the quarterback who's the top 61 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: third board. I think the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh still is excused 62 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: me at twenty overall, I think they're a team that 63 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: obviously is in the quarterback market. I don't think Mason 64 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Rudolph or Dwayne Askins are gonna be the long term 65 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: starter there. We know Ben Roethlisberger just retired, so they 66 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: need a loan to solution there. So it wouldn't be 67 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: surprising if the still is that t When he looked 68 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: the trade up, what do you think about the Jets 69 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: at number four your latest my draft? You have them 70 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: taking North Carolina State offensive linement Ikey Kuano, And I'll 71 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: tell you what a quanto was so impressive today when 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: he spoke to the media, it was Yeah. So I 73 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: got a chance to see Ikey play live against the 74 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Wake Force. That was my first first interaction with him, 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: and he was all business from start to finish. I 76 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: thought he was great in that game. And then the 77 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: great thing about the combine is you get to see 78 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: these guys with their helmets off and you get to 79 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: know the personality a little bit. So he's talking about 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: how he was in the chorus at school, he ran track. 81 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Just just a fruitful type of personality and that's the 82 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: type of stuff that you really fall in love with. 83 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: And I just can only imagine what Joe Douglas and 84 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: all these other executives are going through when they're interviewing 85 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: all of these kids. But with the Quanta, he has 86 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: such a great personality, as you saw at the podium 87 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: with him. You know what I was thinking today is 88 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: is he gonna get the four Jacksonville look at a 89 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: quanto and say, let's put him in front of Trevor Lawrence? 90 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Right Yeah, I mean that's the possibility. I think it's 91 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: between him and Alabama's Evan Neil right now. I think 92 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: those are YouTube as far as pole leaders in the 93 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: pole position right now to be the number one overall pick. 94 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be an offensive tackle. We'll 95 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: see who who ends up being between those two, but 96 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: I think those are your two guys at the top 97 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: right now. The quanto. He can play guard, he can 98 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: play tackle. He was asked today he pictures himself as 99 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: a left tackle. Where on the next level, where do 100 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: you think he is past protection wise? Because he's a 101 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: maler in the run game. We know that, and he 102 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: was honest about his assessment. He said, well, I gotta 103 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: refine some things there, but I'm wanting to do that. Yeah. 104 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's the great thing about it is 105 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: that with the quanto he brings such a different type 106 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: of plate temperament. He's one of those dudes you can 107 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: build in the offensive line around. And we know what 108 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: McKay Beckton is capable of. As far as from a 109 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: physicality standpoint, I think him and Ikey would have a 110 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: really good bond together as far as just mall and 111 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: guys in the running game. But he's exactly right, he 112 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: has some things that he needs to clean up from 113 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: past protection standpoint. He's so athletic. What he does is 114 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: he over sets a lot, so he overruns the defensive 115 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: bend coming up the field and they just end up 116 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: crossing back over his inside shoulders. So a little things 117 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: like that he needs to clean up. So that's interesting. 118 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: So in that respect, his athletics can actually work against them. Yeah, yeah, 119 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that as an officer. Avelignement, right, 120 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: And then also in your bock draft you go the Jets. 121 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: I believe this is your first receiver off of your board, 122 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson from Ohio State. How do you stack up 123 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: the top top guys They're including Wilson and USC S 124 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: Drake London. Yeah, so Drake is my number three guy 125 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: right now, behind Garrett Wilson. And then also Trailing, Burke's 126 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Those are my top two guys right now. I think 127 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: both rexcuse me. I think Trailing is gonna test it 128 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: really well. I think Garrett is probably gonna have some 129 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: really good testing Number two. But Wilson reminds me a 130 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: lot of Stefan Dix when he was coming out of Maryland. 131 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: And obviously he's gonna be a much higher pick than 132 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: what Digs was. He went in the fifth round. So Wilson, 133 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: I don't see how he gets outside of the first 134 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: round honestly, but he's my wide receiver one right now. 135 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Just the body, control of the hands, just how decisive 136 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: and creative he is as a route runner. I think 137 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: he has the trace to create a Wilson and Wilson connection. Oh. 138 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: I love that. When I think it, Digs, I think 139 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: of one of the best route runners of football. Does 140 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: Wilson have that kind of feat? Yeah, He's just smooth overall. 141 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: And you know, some people like to compare him in 142 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: a love I don't really like to get into the 143 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: comparison game. But as far as just a route running technician, 144 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: I think he has it all. He can get open, 145 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: he creates separation even when he doesn't create separation. He 146 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: can go up and get those contest of walls. Do 147 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: you like thought in this projection, you got the Jets 148 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: adding somebody front of Wilson ending somebody outside. Do you 149 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: like the thought of Hey, getting a piece along that 150 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: offensive line, continuing to fortify that line, but getting Wilson 151 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: another weapon. Joe Douglas added Elijah Moore last year. Corey 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: Davison free agency, of course, got some work to do 153 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: with the tight ye and position, but a lot of 154 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: people are thinking receiver here for the Jets early in 155 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the draft, whether that be in the first round or 156 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: early in the second. Yeah. I mean the great thing 157 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: for the Jets is that you have four inside of 158 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: the top thirty eight, so you can add some really 159 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: good football players in that range. And Joe Douglas has 160 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: done a great job as far as drafting and just 161 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: adding talent to the roster. And I think the Jets 162 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: are still in that stage of where they need to 163 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: just simply add talent. But taking Zac Wilson number two, overall, 164 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: you want to figure out a way to set him 165 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: up for six to be able to succeed, especially when 166 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about a high draft pick in a quarterback 167 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: if you want to figure out to surround figure out 168 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: a way to surround them with weapons. What do you 169 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: think of Wilson last year? What's next for him? Yeah, 170 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean it was a big adjustment for him whenever 171 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: you go from B y U to the big out. 172 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: But that's gonna be a big adjustment for anybody. 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What do 193 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: you think about this edge class? I love it. I 194 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of depth at the top. I mean, 195 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: you hear guys Kate Kveon Thibodau and Adan Hudginson. You 196 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: hear about those two all the time, but there's plenty 197 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: of other guys that could go in the first rounds. 198 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Romain Johnson the second is one name that you hear 199 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: a lot. Arnold IV Ketty if you're looking for a 200 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: second or a third round option. My J Sanders is 201 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: another option too. So there's so many different depth guys. 202 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: David A. Jobo, As you can see, I'm just ruling 203 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: off names edge class, So that just speaks to the 204 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: depth overall of this group. What about Trey Von Walker 205 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: from Georgia. Yeah, so he's one of the more polarizing 206 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: prospects that you'll see in this class. What I mean 207 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: by that is there's a lot of mixed opinions about him, 208 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: just because at Georgia they didn't really utilize them as 209 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: that go get it type of edge rusher. He doesn't 210 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of reps of where he's just showing 211 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: band or being able to corner and get to the quarterback. 212 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: He was more so holding at the point of attack 213 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: to gap and when he does play inside. So I 214 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: think he's going to test off the charts. But if 215 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: you're just depending on the traits and relying on the 216 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: traits for his projection, I mean, I don't see how 217 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: he gets past Baltimore and fourteen. Who do you think 218 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: potentially if the Jets do go offense in the first round, 219 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: who do you think potentially could be there defensively at 220 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: the top of the second round. So you're talking about 221 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: defensive end. Probably um, I think they have a huge 222 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: need of defensive end. Maybe you're David Jajabo, I think 223 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: he possibly could be there at ten. Tim maybe a 224 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: little bit too rich for him, but even at four 225 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: you may get a cavon Tibodeau, you may slip into that. 226 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: So the the Jets should be hoping that the Texans 227 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: take Kyle Hamilton's at three. Uh Evan Neil or Equana 228 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: go at one, and then the Detroit ends up taking 229 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: one of those defensive ends at two as well. So 230 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: if Kyle Hamilton's or somebody else goes at three, Cavon 231 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Thibodeau could be on the board for the Jets. And 232 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: if that happens, I think you turned the card in 233 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: very quickly. Where do you stand on Hamilton's And I 234 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: know people talk about premium to positions in the draft, 235 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: were most most time talking about quarterback, cornerback, edge rush 236 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: or not safety. Yeah, so I got in a little 237 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: bit of trouble when I posted this on social media 238 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: with Jets fans that kind of came after me. And 239 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: I think Kyl Hemilton is the best player in the draft. 240 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: He's my top ranked player. And the thing with Jets 241 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: fans is they bring up Calvin Prior, they bring up 242 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams and all these other safeties that they have 243 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: taken in the first round. But Kyle Hamilton's is so 244 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: different than those guys that he has a different skill set. 245 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: He can play what I like to call on the 246 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: roof of the defense, which is on the third level. 247 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: He can come down and be a striker as a 248 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: run stopper and then he gives you blitz value as well, 249 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: So he has a three level impact, unlike some of 250 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: the other players that we saw with prior and then Adams, 251 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: who were most so your linebacker, your blitz type of 252 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage players. I think Kyle Hamilton's he just 253 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: unlocks everybody on the back end of that defense. Me personally, 254 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: I would take him at forward team. So you see 255 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: him definitely as one of those unicorns that Salo was 256 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: referring to yesterday. Yeah, just think of Derwin James, just 257 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: how big of an impact that he has had. And 258 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: if we go back and redraft the draft that Derwin 259 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: came out and he would be a top and picked 260 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: without question. And I know Jets fans, you're gonna you 261 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: know me for taking a safe. But to your point, 262 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: they're almost different positions. When you're talking about the Jamal 263 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Adams in the Hamilton's, those guys are just so different. Yeah, 264 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: totally different skill sets. Yeah, you can't. You can't look 265 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: at the abbreviation as far as the position in front 266 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: of their name, just because they're so different. And the 267 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: way Hamilton's plays the game, it's almost like he's the 268 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: perfect fit for modern football right because he come down 269 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: he played that center field. But you can line them 270 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: up in a lot of different places. I mean, the 271 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: Jets has seven interceptions a year ago, which is the 272 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: second lowest rat in the league. Cal Hamilton's had multiple 273 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: games of where he had two plus interceptions. You can 274 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: go back and watch the Florida State game. He was 275 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: outstanding in that game. The big thing with him is 276 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: the kneeees check out as far as from a medical standpoint, 277 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: but he said he's fine, He's ready to go, So 278 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. How about cornerbacks? What do you 279 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: think about Sauce Gardner and then sting Lee out of 280 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: LS You know a lot of different opinions there. Where 281 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: do you see the top of this group? Yeah, so 282 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: at the top you see two guys harder and then 283 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: also Stingley. I just thought with Sauce, I got an 284 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: opportunity to see him live against ECU every bit of 285 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: six ft two and a half probably hovers around one 286 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: and ninety five to two hundred pounds. Will see what 287 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: he does end up weighing in as But just his 288 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: movement skills are so special. That's the big thing about him. 289 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you go three years without allowing a touchdown, 290 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: that's just an impressive resume overall. And Joe Douglas has 291 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: shown a tendency to really value corners Day two, Day three, 292 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: So you know, Bryce Hall is a really productive player. 293 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: They got a lot of him last year, so if 294 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: they're looking for a renimate with him, I think Gardener 295 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: would be a home run pick. Gardner, what's his potential? 296 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean this guy, this guy a multi time All 297 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Pro kind of player. If ball hawk you see that, 298 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: I think he has that type of potential. And if 299 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: you're just looking for a playing style, com he kind 300 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: of reminds you of Antonio Crimarti when he was coming 301 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: out of Florida State, that big, long ranging corner that 302 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: has really good movement skills. So I like him a lot, 303 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: good stuff. What do you feel about the Jets with 304 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: the four and the top thirty eight as fur as 305 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: the deep in this class? Where are you gonna find 306 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: the most value second, third, fourth round? That's a good question. 307 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: I think edge Rusher obviously is deep. I think tight end. 308 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: If they want to take one, they can take one, 309 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: and round two around three trade McBride. I think I 310 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: had him in my latest month draft to the to 311 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: the Jets. I like his fit there a lot, and 312 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: then I mean there's a really this is a really 313 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: good tight end class. From a depth perspective. There's no t. J. 314 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Hockensenter cow pits like we have seen in years of 315 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: ass But if you're looking for those tight end twos 316 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: or somebody that can come in and be a number 317 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: two tight end for you, Jeremy Rucker from Ohio State 318 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: is one that makes a lot of sense too. So 319 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: I think with this class there's a lot of depth, 320 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: but there's no top end. Guys. You're a Carolina kids, 321 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: So why don't you tell me about Isaiah Likely? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 322 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely. So my my older brother is actually the 323 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: receiver's coach at Coastal Carolina, So having a lot of 324 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: intel on Isaiah Likely. He just said he's a kid 325 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: that just loved the game. More of your f tight end, 326 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the one you want to flex out and use as 327 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: a like a wide receiver in a sense. He said 328 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: he competes hard as a blocker, but that's not lead 329 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: the name of his game. He's gonna be catching the 330 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: football from day one. That's really where you want him 331 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: to contribute. So if you're looking for that move tight 332 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: end kind of like a Jerald every type, that's kind 333 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: of the player that he reminds me of that he 334 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: can contribute in the passing game from day one. Do 335 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: you think we can see a runner on tight ends 336 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: there early in the second round. I wouldn't say early 337 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: in the second round. I think it's probably gonna come 338 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: somewhere in the top fifty. But once you see a 339 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: couple of them go, I think you're gonna see a 340 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: lot of teams start to hurry up and try to 341 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: get their guy. What do you think about how Joe 342 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: Douglas navigated last year's draft when we talked about Wilson 343 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: and Elijah Vera Tucker, Elijah More and Michael Carter. The 344 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Jets still have high hopes for Hamson, nos Rodin. Also 345 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: Jamie Sherwood, Brandon Eackles came in third day. Picky's out 346 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: there starting for you, and the Jets love what they 347 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: got out of Michael Carter, the cornerback out of Jilke. Yeah. 348 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: And the great thing about that is we know Joe 349 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Douglas is a very talented evaluate. He has a great 350 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: eye for talent, and we saw that in his first 351 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: draft class, and I really like the way they were 352 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: able to navigate the draft going up and getting and 353 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker who is probab are going to be 354 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: a long term building block along with Elijah More. It 355 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: was a little bit banged up early on in the year, 356 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: but he really came into his own down the backstretch 357 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: of the year. So I'm really excited to see what 358 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: he does in this draft class because out of all 359 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: the GMS, he's one that I have the most respect 360 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: for as far as just an eye for talent. Let's 361 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: go back to Wilson. Let's come full circle. If you 362 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: go here at Wilson, they shift more a little bit 363 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: more inside than maybe we saw this year, and then 364 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: you have Wilson, Corey Davis outside dynamic for you. Yeah, 365 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: I love it having other guys outside. I mean, Zack 366 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Wilson has to be very happy if they end up 367 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: getting Garrett Wilson and then also taking a tight end 368 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: to you just want to figure out a way to 369 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: set up Zach with as many avenues to succeed as possible, 370 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: just because I kind of think that's where the Jets 371 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: messed up in a sense, and I know this was 372 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: an over gene with Sam Donald. They just didn't surround 373 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: him with those pieces in order for him to succeed. 374 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: So I think Joe Douglas when he came in and 375 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: he ends up selecting Zack, he want to make sure 376 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: that that doesn't happen again. Jordan, give me the top 377 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: two or three most polarizing figures. You're might a Trey 378 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Von Walker before. How about gave thibodall this he included 379 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: on that list? Yeah, yeah, I think so a lot 380 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: of people are gonna be keying in on his testing numbers, 381 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: and then you hear the afric concerns and all those things. 382 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: I see a little bit of that ull take, but 383 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit overblown to he's a 384 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: really good player. Let's not overthink him. He's a top 385 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: five guy for me, and I would take him inside 386 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the top five. So you got anybody on that list 387 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: as well. Um, he's not where where people are up 388 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: and down kind of all across the board. I mean, 389 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: he's not testing. It's unfortunately he's not. But it is 390 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: on that list too. Just because your best abilities are 391 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: availability miss fifteen games over the past two years, who's 392 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a workout freak here this week, So keep 393 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: an eye on this name. His name is Kyler Gordon 394 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: from Washington. He's one name just talking to some scouts 395 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: around here and surveying the land of Scouts and just 396 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: figuring out who everybody is most excited to see. Test 397 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: He's the one that everybody is really excited about, expecting 398 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: the forty plus and the vert probably low four force. 399 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: And then I mean his bride jump is supposed to 400 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: be something crazy too. And Washington has become a factory. 401 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: We saw the dvs that they have produced. Whether is 402 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: going all the way back to Desmond, Truefont, Marcus Peters, 403 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Kinge, the list goes on and on, and even 404 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: in previous years, Elijah Molden, Taylor Rapp, There's so many 405 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: names that have come out of Washington. He's just the 406 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: next one in line. Uh. 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Uh feels like 426 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: I made my starting media with the New York Jets. 427 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: About that so back in the day doing this like 428 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: many like many Jets personalities out there. Absolutely, it's it is. 429 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: People say that it's like a farm system for for media. 430 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: I definitely believe that, especially at your place. Definitely definitely is. 431 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: But I'm excited to be back with you guys, and 432 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: two picks in the top ten, Like what what better 433 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: year to to talk Jets football than that? All right? 434 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: So what do you want the Jets to do with 435 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: those two picks at the top that, Yeah, that's tough. 436 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I want them to go in a perfect world. At four, 437 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: I think you can almost go best player available at 438 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: a position of need. Right, So if Kwanu is there, like, 439 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm running that card to the board, right. You know 440 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: that's a figure of speech. They call it in, but 441 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm calling it in like super fast, right, And then 442 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: I think at ten you can look at who's the 443 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: best defender on the board. Um, obviously I know this 444 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: well from Jets fans on Twitter. I love you guys. 445 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: They tell me all the time, like Robert Salis not 446 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: in draft a corner in the first round. He just 447 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: doesn't do it. I think people forget that he had 448 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer in Richard Sherman. So it's it's 449 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: not just about how you acquire the player. But he 450 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: does need a good corner and that's that systems. I 451 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: would love to see a corner they're available, whether it's 452 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. I still believe in Derek Stineley Jr. I 453 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: might be the only person left on that boat. But 454 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: I still believe in a player that is that athletic 455 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: and had that ability as a true freshman l s 456 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: U to be the best defensive back in the nation. 457 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: I still believe that that he just needs to be 458 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: in the right situation, basically, and I do think that 459 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: the Robert Salas defense would be that situation. It's interesting. 460 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: I think Jud's fans would count her and they say 461 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: Sherman was a fifth round pick. But like you said, 462 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you get the guy. You gotta 463 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: get the guy. There's no doubt about that. Why are 464 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: there questions about Stingland? Well, I think you know, he 465 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: played ten games in the last two years, didn't have 466 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: an interception, so that's a big part of it. You know, 467 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: obviously two thousand twenty was a shortened year because of COVID. 468 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: When he gets hurt and it's an injury that's keeping 469 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: him from working out of the combine, right, So that's 470 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: where your concerns come in more than anything. But you know, 471 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: there's no there's no character concerns that it's not an 472 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: injury that you expect to be a career shortening. Listen, 473 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: these guys were told two years ago, right, you're eventually 474 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a top by pick in the NFL draft. 475 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: You're a true freshman l s U. You're shutting down 476 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Jamar Chason practice. You're gonna be a top by pick. 477 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: And I think once he got hurt, I'm I'm imagining here. 478 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm not reporting here. It would be hard at years old, 479 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: when you've been told thirty five million dollars is waiting 480 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: for you, just don't get hurt. And then you do 481 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: get hurt. And I think it's human nature to be 482 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: careful and to be safe, And it is very hard 483 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: for me to punish a young man for that win. 484 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: They have the dream that they've been waiting for their 485 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: whole life right in front of him. You get hurt. 486 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: I think it's understandable to throttle down a little bit. Um. 487 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: I think the question is Kenny throttle back up? I 488 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: believe he can. A Quanto was so impressive today. I 489 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: had never heard him speak. I've seen the film clips 490 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: and read the bio. Wow. Man, he comes around. It 491 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: comes across as a well rounded individual who loves football, 492 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: who's gonna fit in the room, who wants to get better. 493 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: Who knows this gut report is you're a great ron blocker. 494 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: You gotta refine some things as a pass block. But 495 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: he was so impressive. He's impressive on the field as well, right, 496 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: I think what what I love most about him? Like 497 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: you said, he's he's almost mild mannered in person. On 498 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: the field, he's just a Mahler like he plays angry 499 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: and aggressive and tough. And I do think you're right. 500 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: There are areas he has to get better. I think 501 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: too often people hear that and think, oh, that means 502 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: he's not good. No, it just means he has to 503 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: get better some things right, and he has the tools 504 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: to get better. He's working with Duke Manning Weather and 505 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: the oldie Masterminds group leading up to the draft. They're 506 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna fix a lot of those problems right there, or 507 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: even deficiency is not so much problem. So I do 508 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: think that Ikey is Sky's the limit for him, you know, 509 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: and the problem for Jets fans, and so Damien Woody 510 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: this today, he might not be there for he might 511 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: go one, he might go three, you know, if the 512 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: Texans trade, there may Tunsel. So the good news is 513 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: I think four, you're in a situation where either Evan 514 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: Neel's there, Ikey's there, Aidan Hutchinson's there, or Kyle Hamilton's there, 515 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: and there's not a there's not a bad pick with 516 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: those four players. So I think you are in a 517 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: spot where one of those four players will be there. 518 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: That's guaranteed. Right, That's pretty good. So Robert Sala said, yeah, 519 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: premium positions, we know what they are. A quarterback, cornerback, 520 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: and edge rushers. With that being said, don't be afraid 521 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: to take a player who's a unicorn type player who 522 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: was so much better than everybody last year when the 523 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: fourth overall at a position that people say is devalued 524 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: and you don't get rookie production out of and you'd 525 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: never draft a tight end the top five. To that, 526 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I say, Kyle Pitts isn't the tight end. He's a 527 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: pass catcher. He's an offensive weapon. Kyle Hamilton's is not 528 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: just the safety, He's not just a linebacker. He's a 529 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: defensive chess piece. And I think we saw that with 530 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Derwin James with Isaiah Simmons. Maybe they haven't played up 531 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: to that level due to injury or Isaiah Simmons is 532 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: still a young developing player. But I think right now 533 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: it's we have to look Atkyle Hamilton's a football player, 534 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: not a position. This is not Madden. You know, we 535 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: don't have to lock him into that. You can only 536 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: play single high safety. You can only play in the box. Like, no, man, 537 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna move you around. If we're playing the New 538 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: England Patriots, you're gonna cover John who Smith. You know. 539 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: If we're playing the Miami Dolphins, you're on Mike Gasecki. 540 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: You're playing a team of a mobile quarterback like Josh Allen. 541 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: You're spying Josh Allen. You know. It's it's that ability 542 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: to make him a matchup player. It is what would 543 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: be so exciting about that to me. So you're thinking, 544 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: one of those four, let the board come to you. 545 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: That's what I would do. Yeah, and and the same 546 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: at ten, Like I don't think you have to be 547 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: super aggressive. Let Joe be Joe right, let him let 548 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: him draft, let him set the board. And there is 549 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: some concern. I think you have to start to look 550 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: at this roster. Okay, you got Zach for three or 551 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: four more years on a very affordable contract. You do 552 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: want to be aggressive, but you still have the draft well, 553 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: and I think having that capital of two picks in 554 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: the top ten, right, you should be walking away with 555 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: two Pro bowlers, right. That should be the goal for 556 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: for Jets fans and for the Jets front office. You 557 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: have top ten picks, those guys should be Pro bowlers. 558 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: You just gotta get it right, all right. So let's 559 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: just say you don't address receiver after ten. Who would 560 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: you like at the top of the second round if 561 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: you went in that direction, That's the direction I would go. Um. 562 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: I think that there, this is a great receiver draft. 563 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: Someone's gonna slip. Whether it's one of the injury guys 564 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: from Alabama Jameis Wims will make it to the second 565 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: round unfortunately, sorry guys, But you know John Metchi could 566 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: be there. I do think that's a possibility, depending on 567 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: how you know we're sitting here, that the receivers are 568 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: about to run. Depending on how chrys olav runs, he 569 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: could be a player that could be there at the 570 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: top of the second round. I think a lot of 571 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: people look at mock drafts and rankings and they're like, now, 572 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: that player will never be there. A. J. Brown was 573 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: the second round pick. Deebo Samuel was the second round pick. 574 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd was the second round pick. You can get 575 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: very good receivers at the top of round two because 576 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: guys do tend to slip. It happens every year and 577 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: so it will most likely happen again this year. Where 578 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: you can get a very good receiver at was thirty five. Yeah, 579 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: I believe it is thirty five at the top in 580 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: the second round. Yes, Hey, I wanted to ask you 581 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: about trailing Barks. It's so productive in the SEC. Totally 582 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: different player than Elijah More. But I'm saying, like you 583 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: think about the Alabama receivers first, obviously banged up and 584 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: we'll have to see what their status is. But uh, 585 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: some people have compared him a little bit too deepo 586 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: Samuel in in terms of you can use them all 587 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: over the place. Well, well, can you tell me about Bark. 588 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: He's a lot bigger, that's the thing. Six. Interestingly enough, 589 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: he was up to to forty completely changed his diet, 590 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: like fixed his physique. Right now he's this chiseled to 591 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: and a great runner after the catch physical to catch point. 592 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: I think he's a little more a j Brown than 593 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: he has Deebo Samuel, but like you would take that right. 594 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: A player who is going to dominate on slant routes, 595 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna outposition defenders, but then he's gonna give you 596 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: that juice after the catch to make chunk plays. And 597 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: I do think that is what's missing. The thing about 598 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore and Traylon Barks is they're both tough, like 599 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: they're very physical. They have that mindset of I'm not 600 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: going down in first contact and I'm going to score 601 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: when I catched the ball. That's what you want. I 602 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: think with the with the young quarterback, yeah, and especially 603 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: a young quarterback who we said it last year, right, 604 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: he loves that yellow ball like I'm just gonna throw 605 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: this thing up there and my guy's gonna get it. 606 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: Trailer Barks is gonna help with that. Where do you 607 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: stand on I think it's a very deep class. I 608 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: don't love it. I don't think you know. I think 609 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Trey McBride's really good. I think Greg Doults, Doults, excuse 610 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: me from you, you very good? Um. After that, Isaiah 611 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Likely is a good player. This is a deep tight 612 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: end class. I don't know that I would be in 613 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: a huge rush to draft one at thirty five, I think, 614 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: and round three you can get a good player, right, 615 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: a quality player who could be a starter for a 616 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: long time. If you're the Jets, maybe address tight end 617 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: in free agency and then come back at some point 618 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: in the draft and get somebody. Yeah. I don't think 619 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: you have to have one, right. You can address it 620 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: in a couple of different ways. Especially you know, maybe 621 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: maybe in free agency you get you get a pass 622 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: blocker or run blocker, excuse me, and then in the 623 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: draft you go more of an athlete, more of a 624 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: move tight end. You know. I think that there are 625 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: a couple different ways to figure that out. All right, dude, 626 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: it's been a great scene. Or uh, leave you on 627 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: this one, second, third, fourth round? What position groups am 628 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I watching out for? Man? If we get deeper in 629 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: the draft, Yeah, I think safety, obviously, Marcus being a 630 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: free agent, that is a huge area. Um, I think 631 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: even running back. I'm a big Michael Carter guy, but 632 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: I do think there's an opportunity to add someone who 633 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: is a dynamic pass catcher to give you more of 634 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: a third downback quote unquote, or even just a rotational guy. 635 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: So I think I would be looking at corner, I'd 636 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: be looking at safety, running back. And I still think, 637 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line. We expect at least one 638 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: of those top ten picks we spent on the offensive line. 639 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: There's no reason that we couldn't see that again in 640 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: the middle round. So I'm a big believer in Elijah 641 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Barray Tucker things to be a great player. But you 642 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: know there's five of the un five offensive blintment right, 643 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: and I think there's question marks that are a couple 644 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: of the spots. Good Senor, We'll be watching it, we'll 645 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: be reading you on ESPN, and congrats you guys appreciate it.