1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,137 --> 00:00:23,377 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to the Buck Sexton Show, and we 5 00:00:23,417 --> 00:00:25,257 Speaker 2: have a very exciting guest. We always have a very 6 00:00:25,257 --> 00:00:29,537 Speaker 2: exciting guests, but particularly exciting this time. Roma de Ravi 7 00:00:29,817 --> 00:00:33,457 Speaker 2: is with us. She worked on the Trump twenty sixteen 8 00:00:33,697 --> 00:00:38,217 Speaker 2: victorious presidential campaign. She also worked in the Trump White 9 00:00:38,217 --> 00:00:45,457 Speaker 2: House and now does political communications and strategy of her own. Roma, 10 00:00:45,657 --> 00:00:46,337 Speaker 2: good to have you on. 11 00:00:46,377 --> 00:00:49,257 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining, of course, it's great to be with you. 12 00:00:49,377 --> 00:00:49,577 Speaker 1: Buck. 13 00:00:49,697 --> 00:00:52,497 Speaker 2: All right, let's start the big thing right now? Is 14 00:00:52,737 --> 00:00:55,937 Speaker 2: It's interesting because there's the couple levels to this debates, 15 00:00:56,097 --> 00:00:59,417 Speaker 2: right Trump has said, and I want you to tackle 16 00:00:59,417 --> 00:01:03,577 Speaker 2: these for me separately. Trump has said that he may 17 00:01:03,617 --> 00:01:07,657 Speaker 2: not even be willing to debate if he's like, really 18 00:01:07,737 --> 00:01:11,257 Speaker 2: far ahead of the competition which is in and then 19 00:01:11,297 --> 00:01:15,897 Speaker 2: beyond that, I wonder if how Biden will react to 20 00:01:15,937 --> 00:01:17,977 Speaker 2: this as well. Will Biden if Trump is a nominee, 21 00:01:17,977 --> 00:01:20,537 Speaker 2: debate him. But let's take these in order. Trump in 22 00:01:20,617 --> 00:01:23,537 Speaker 2: the primaries, what's his position right now? What do you 23 00:01:23,537 --> 00:01:26,697 Speaker 2: think of this possibility of debates not happening. 24 00:01:28,617 --> 00:01:31,537 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think there's a whole lot that you 25 00:01:31,657 --> 00:01:35,937 Speaker 1: have to tackle in that. For starters, Trump doesn't really 26 00:01:36,057 --> 00:01:40,977 Speaker 1: have any serious opponents at this time. Everybody is talking 27 00:01:41,017 --> 00:01:45,657 Speaker 1: about Ronda Santas, but as of April first today, he 28 00:01:45,697 --> 00:01:48,577 Speaker 1: has not announced that he's running for president. So at 29 00:01:48,577 --> 00:01:52,097 Speaker 1: this point, everybody else who is running against him has 30 00:01:53,137 --> 00:01:56,577 Speaker 1: less than five percent, not even double digits in the 31 00:01:56,617 --> 00:02:00,817 Speaker 1: polls right now. So Trump is absolutely leading. His numbers 32 00:02:00,857 --> 00:02:03,657 Speaker 1: are going up every single day. I have no doubt 33 00:02:03,657 --> 00:02:05,657 Speaker 1: in my mind that he is going to be the 34 00:02:05,697 --> 00:02:07,657 Speaker 1: front runner for the Republican Party. 35 00:02:08,137 --> 00:02:09,657 Speaker 3: So if he's saying. 36 00:02:09,457 --> 00:02:11,857 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to to do it, maybe he's saying 37 00:02:11,897 --> 00:02:14,497 Speaker 1: it's a waste of time because there's no one else 38 00:02:14,537 --> 00:02:15,377 Speaker 1: to really talk to. 39 00:02:15,977 --> 00:02:19,417 Speaker 3: But I mean it's only spring. 40 00:02:20,457 --> 00:02:23,457 Speaker 1: The debates don't start until August, right, we only know 41 00:02:23,497 --> 00:02:24,417 Speaker 1: about a couple. 42 00:02:24,177 --> 00:02:25,057 Speaker 3: Of them right now. 43 00:02:25,297 --> 00:02:27,097 Speaker 1: There's a whole slew of them that are going to 44 00:02:27,137 --> 00:02:32,097 Speaker 1: be announced. Really, anything can happen. I wouldn't go and 45 00:02:32,337 --> 00:02:34,297 Speaker 1: make a bet just yet that he's not going to 46 00:02:34,337 --> 00:02:35,417 Speaker 1: be on that debate stage. 47 00:02:35,417 --> 00:02:36,297 Speaker 3: It would probably be. 48 00:02:36,177 --> 00:02:38,457 Speaker 1: A losing bet. I would go ahead and assume that 49 00:02:38,497 --> 00:02:41,897 Speaker 1: he will be up there, mainly because he's so good 50 00:02:41,937 --> 00:02:42,297 Speaker 1: at it. 51 00:02:42,377 --> 00:02:44,657 Speaker 3: I think it would be a loss to him to 52 00:02:44,777 --> 00:02:45,657 Speaker 3: not be up there. 53 00:02:46,537 --> 00:02:50,377 Speaker 1: So many people have fond memories of President Trump up 54 00:02:50,417 --> 00:02:53,337 Speaker 1: on the debate stage making everybody else look like idiots, 55 00:02:53,537 --> 00:02:56,657 Speaker 1: I might add, So it really is up to him 56 00:02:56,737 --> 00:02:57,817 Speaker 1: if he wants to do it or not. 57 00:02:58,257 --> 00:03:00,297 Speaker 3: But I think it's too early to say if it's 58 00:03:00,297 --> 00:03:00,857 Speaker 3: going to happen. 59 00:03:01,177 --> 00:03:04,937 Speaker 2: Do you have some just either anecdote or data you 60 00:03:04,977 --> 00:03:08,457 Speaker 2: can share because you're working on the twenty sixteen campaign. 61 00:03:09,177 --> 00:03:10,777 Speaker 2: Klay and I were just talking of this on radio 62 00:03:10,857 --> 00:03:15,657 Speaker 2: or thinking about major debate victories in presidential debates, right 63 00:03:15,817 --> 00:03:18,257 Speaker 2: and we were talking about Trump twenty sixteen. Actually the 64 00:03:18,297 --> 00:03:21,737 Speaker 2: first debate in twenty twelve between Romney and Obama, which 65 00:03:21,737 --> 00:03:25,377 Speaker 2: I think people forget, but that was a total, you know, 66 00:03:25,817 --> 00:03:30,057 Speaker 2: just wipeout of Obama by mid Romney, which right now 67 00:03:30,057 --> 00:03:31,897 Speaker 2: to say that is almost but if anyone goes back 68 00:03:31,937 --> 00:03:35,217 Speaker 2: and watches it, they'll remember. But in twenty sixteen Trump 69 00:03:35,337 --> 00:03:38,097 Speaker 2: and Hillary. Did you see a bump after that? Because 70 00:03:38,097 --> 00:03:39,537 Speaker 2: one of the things that comes up now is do 71 00:03:39,617 --> 00:03:42,777 Speaker 2: debates really move the needle in your experience? In twenty sixteen. 72 00:03:42,817 --> 00:03:44,737 Speaker 2: Did the debates move the needle for Trump against Hillary 73 00:03:44,857 --> 00:03:46,857 Speaker 2: or was it the rest of the campaign and the 74 00:03:46,897 --> 00:03:48,297 Speaker 2: debates were kind of an afterthought. 75 00:03:49,377 --> 00:03:52,497 Speaker 1: Well, the debates are a really interesting environment because you 76 00:03:52,657 --> 00:03:56,657 Speaker 1: tackle these very serious policy issues, and if you have 77 00:03:56,817 --> 00:04:01,457 Speaker 1: a good person running the debates, they'll go through every 78 00:04:01,497 --> 00:04:04,497 Speaker 1: single one. They will talk about everything from the economy 79 00:04:04,737 --> 00:04:07,257 Speaker 1: to foreign policy, and they will press the people that 80 00:04:07,297 --> 00:04:11,297 Speaker 1: are on that stage. At the same time, debates do 81 00:04:11,577 --> 00:04:17,977 Speaker 1: offer a platform that's a little bit less stagnant, right, 82 00:04:18,137 --> 00:04:21,217 Speaker 1: so it's very fluid. Everybody that's up there has a 83 00:04:21,337 --> 00:04:24,377 Speaker 1: chance to really show who they are to the American people. 84 00:04:25,097 --> 00:04:27,977 Speaker 1: Donald Trump did a great job of doing that. He 85 00:04:28,577 --> 00:04:31,217 Speaker 1: knew his facts, he knew his stuff. He went up 86 00:04:31,217 --> 00:04:33,657 Speaker 1: there and he made really strong arguments on the policy 87 00:04:33,697 --> 00:04:36,817 Speaker 1: side of things, and he took time to actually make 88 00:04:36,857 --> 00:04:40,137 Speaker 1: a few jabs at Hillary that, in my opinion, really 89 00:04:40,177 --> 00:04:43,977 Speaker 1: helped the American people realize he's just like them. He 90 00:04:44,137 --> 00:04:46,257 Speaker 1: knows how to throw a punch, he knows how to 91 00:04:46,297 --> 00:04:49,217 Speaker 1: crack a joke. It makes him seem more real to 92 00:04:49,257 --> 00:04:52,297 Speaker 1: the American people. So I think the debate stage is 93 00:04:52,337 --> 00:04:53,777 Speaker 1: a really interesting environment. 94 00:04:53,857 --> 00:04:55,497 Speaker 3: I would love to see him up there. 95 00:04:56,217 --> 00:04:59,337 Speaker 1: I do think it helps him as a candidate when 96 00:04:59,537 --> 00:05:03,057 Speaker 1: talking to people like Joe Biden, Right, So it really 97 00:05:03,097 --> 00:05:06,137 Speaker 1: the compara contrast. You can only believe your own eyes 98 00:05:06,177 --> 00:05:08,777 Speaker 1: at that point rather than listening to the left media 99 00:05:09,217 --> 00:05:12,457 Speaker 1: and whatever lies they're telling you. If you're looking at 100 00:05:12,497 --> 00:05:16,737 Speaker 1: Donald Trump standing next to Joe Biden, the strength is 101 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:19,137 Speaker 1: right there in front of your eyes, and the weakness 102 00:05:19,217 --> 00:05:21,257 Speaker 1: is standing next to it in the current president. 103 00:05:21,497 --> 00:05:24,697 Speaker 2: Do you think I mean, we all remember the Heiden 104 00:05:24,857 --> 00:05:28,697 Speaker 2: Biden twenty twenty campaign right where it's like he wasn't 105 00:05:28,937 --> 00:05:31,177 Speaker 2: oh because of COVID and he had a double mask 106 00:05:31,337 --> 00:05:34,377 Speaker 2: and all that stuff that he didn't really do a 107 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:38,097 Speaker 2: whole lot of campaigning. But it feels like it would 108 00:05:38,097 --> 00:05:41,777 Speaker 2: be a whole nother level of Hyde Hide and Biden 109 00:05:41,977 --> 00:05:46,897 Speaker 2: if he refused to debate Trump as the Republican nominee. 110 00:05:47,417 --> 00:05:50,657 Speaker 2: Do you think, I mean, from just a comm's perspective, 111 00:05:50,657 --> 00:05:53,777 Speaker 2: do you think that's a serious that's a serious possibility, 112 00:05:53,817 --> 00:05:57,137 Speaker 2: because it seems like people are already raising that maybe preemptively, 113 00:05:57,177 --> 00:05:59,217 Speaker 2: Like you know, Joe Biden, he's not even that a 114 00:05:59,297 --> 00:06:03,817 Speaker 2: platform Trump. That's what I've been hearing by debating him right. 115 00:06:03,937 --> 00:06:07,577 Speaker 1: Well, Joe Biden had a really interesting environment, like you mentioned, 116 00:06:07,617 --> 00:06:10,497 Speaker 1: when he ran last time. Not only was it COVID, 117 00:06:10,857 --> 00:06:15,337 Speaker 1: but he had the Obama administration as his backdrop for 118 00:06:15,377 --> 00:06:20,497 Speaker 1: the campaign. He had Obama's so called wins from the 119 00:06:20,537 --> 00:06:22,777 Speaker 1: administration and that he could run on. But the Biden 120 00:06:22,817 --> 00:06:27,617 Speaker 1: administration has had failure after failure after failure, both regionally 121 00:06:27,817 --> 00:06:29,417 Speaker 1: and on the national stage. 122 00:06:29,497 --> 00:06:32,577 Speaker 3: So this time around, he's going to have a really tough. 123 00:06:32,377 --> 00:06:36,417 Speaker 1: Time hiding Biden, hide and Biden right, like we say 124 00:06:36,537 --> 00:06:39,217 Speaker 1: in the basement, because he does have to kind of 125 00:06:39,217 --> 00:06:43,977 Speaker 1: go out and take charge and try to make a 126 00:06:43,977 --> 00:06:45,977 Speaker 1: case to the American people that he's done a good 127 00:06:46,057 --> 00:06:49,257 Speaker 1: job when the reality is we know that there's just 128 00:06:49,417 --> 00:06:52,057 Speaker 1: a bunch of negatives that are on his call sheet. 129 00:06:52,137 --> 00:06:54,377 Speaker 1: So it's really going to be tough for him to 130 00:06:54,457 --> 00:06:57,017 Speaker 1: hide this time. But I will say that the Democrats, 131 00:06:57,697 --> 00:07:00,177 Speaker 1: they're kind of the party of staying in line, right, 132 00:07:00,217 --> 00:07:02,457 Speaker 1: They're really not the party of freedom that is the 133 00:07:02,457 --> 00:07:05,497 Speaker 1: Republican party. That is why we as a party have 134 00:07:05,577 --> 00:07:08,577 Speaker 1: a tough time speaking from the same song sheet, whereas 135 00:07:08,577 --> 00:07:12,297 Speaker 1: the Democrats have no problem reading the exact same phrase 136 00:07:12,337 --> 00:07:15,737 Speaker 1: over and over again. It's the socialist mindsets, the communist mindset, 137 00:07:15,777 --> 00:07:20,137 Speaker 1: it's the democrat mindset. Unfortunately nowadays it is so they 138 00:07:20,177 --> 00:07:23,017 Speaker 1: do a very good job at staying in line. I 139 00:07:23,057 --> 00:07:25,297 Speaker 1: don't think Joe Biden is the one calling the shots 140 00:07:25,377 --> 00:07:28,057 Speaker 1: right now. I think somebody will tell him whether he's 141 00:07:28,137 --> 00:07:30,417 Speaker 1: going to debate and whether or not he's going to 142 00:07:30,497 --> 00:07:31,497 Speaker 1: be out campaigning. 143 00:07:32,017 --> 00:07:33,057 Speaker 3: But the left. 144 00:07:32,897 --> 00:07:36,697 Speaker 1: Media is really who is pushing the narrative for him, 145 00:07:36,817 --> 00:07:40,377 Speaker 1: so they have an advantage the left. If he does 146 00:07:40,457 --> 00:07:44,777 Speaker 1: stay quiet, then all the Americans have to go off 147 00:07:44,817 --> 00:07:47,417 Speaker 1: of is what the mainstream media is telling them, which 148 00:07:47,457 --> 00:07:48,497 Speaker 1: is a bunch of lies. 149 00:07:48,657 --> 00:07:49,417 Speaker 3: Unfortunately. 150 00:07:49,897 --> 00:07:54,057 Speaker 1: So I really am urging friends, family, neighbors, everybody to 151 00:07:54,137 --> 00:07:57,577 Speaker 1: pay attention to as much digital content as they can 152 00:07:57,737 --> 00:08:03,137 Speaker 1: moving forward. Outlets like yours buck that are streaming things 153 00:08:03,177 --> 00:08:07,217 Speaker 1: that are not just on their TV on cable news 154 00:08:07,297 --> 00:08:10,257 Speaker 1: because they need to find a variety of content they're 155 00:08:10,297 --> 00:08:12,097 Speaker 1: really going to get the facts moving forward. 156 00:08:13,377 --> 00:08:14,777 Speaker 2: I want to come back and ask you to just 157 00:08:14,817 --> 00:08:19,457 Speaker 2: make the case to everybody who's listening or watching about why. 158 00:08:19,497 --> 00:08:22,017 Speaker 2: I mean, you were there in twenty sixteen, and I 159 00:08:22,097 --> 00:08:23,617 Speaker 2: think the big thing for a lot of people is 160 00:08:23,617 --> 00:08:25,937 Speaker 2: is this going to be twenty sixteen in terms of 161 00:08:25,977 --> 00:08:27,937 Speaker 2: the result or is this going to be twenty twenty 162 00:08:28,057 --> 00:08:29,617 Speaker 2: in terms of the result. 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All right, Roma for Republicans out there 189 00:09:44,297 --> 00:09:48,617 Speaker 2: who maybe they are Nicky Haley people, maybe they're Vivek, 190 00:09:48,737 --> 00:09:53,537 Speaker 2: maybe they're Ron DeSantis, and they just worry that Trump 191 00:09:53,537 --> 00:09:55,657 Speaker 2: won't be able to They love Trump, they voted for Trump, 192 00:09:55,657 --> 00:09:57,217 Speaker 2: but they think that Trump won't be able to get 193 00:09:57,217 --> 00:10:00,417 Speaker 2: it done in twenty twenty four. What would be your 194 00:10:00,497 --> 00:10:03,177 Speaker 2: pitch to them? How can you help sell those people 195 00:10:03,217 --> 00:10:05,417 Speaker 2: on this is going to be a victory for the 196 00:10:05,457 --> 00:10:08,057 Speaker 2: GOP with Donald Trump at the helm. 197 00:10:08,577 --> 00:10:11,057 Speaker 1: Well, I think if they're being honest with themselves, they 198 00:10:11,137 --> 00:10:13,537 Speaker 1: know who is going to be able to win this election, 199 00:10:13,737 --> 00:10:16,457 Speaker 1: and it's Donald Trump. If you talk to anybody, even 200 00:10:16,497 --> 00:10:19,417 Speaker 1: the people that have concerns, they still love him. Like 201 00:10:19,457 --> 00:10:22,337 Speaker 1: you said, they still know that he's the winner that 202 00:10:22,377 --> 00:10:24,577 Speaker 1: they all know and love and so I really do 203 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:28,177 Speaker 1: think that if you focus on the facts and the policy, 204 00:10:28,457 --> 00:10:31,297 Speaker 1: he's the only person that can get it done. The 205 00:10:31,337 --> 00:10:34,657 Speaker 1: Democrat process is a beautiful thing. I'm really excited to 206 00:10:34,777 --> 00:10:38,257 Speaker 1: see a wide pool of candidates jump into this thing. 207 00:10:38,617 --> 00:10:41,937 Speaker 1: We've never been in this position before in America in 208 00:10:41,977 --> 00:10:44,657 Speaker 1: the modern day, to have a former president in an 209 00:10:44,777 --> 00:10:48,697 Speaker 1: unconsecutive term running again for office. So this is a 210 00:10:48,737 --> 00:10:52,017 Speaker 1: really exciting time in American history. I think that people 211 00:10:52,017 --> 00:10:55,137 Speaker 1: should pay attention to every little detail that they can, 212 00:10:55,657 --> 00:10:58,457 Speaker 1: because what you're voting on right now is going to 213 00:10:58,537 --> 00:11:01,857 Speaker 1: impact your children and your children's children. When you look 214 00:11:01,897 --> 00:11:06,377 Speaker 1: at the differences between not just the Republican candidates, but 215 00:11:06,857 --> 00:11:10,137 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans as a whole, you really do have 216 00:11:10,177 --> 00:11:13,817 Speaker 1: to focus on the larger picture. You can't just pick 217 00:11:13,937 --> 00:11:17,177 Speaker 1: and choose what candidate you want in the primary, because 218 00:11:17,937 --> 00:11:21,817 Speaker 1: candidate quality matters. And there is a reason why Donald 219 00:11:21,817 --> 00:11:24,897 Speaker 1: Trump was able to accomplish so much in his first 220 00:11:24,937 --> 00:11:28,217 Speaker 1: term in office. He has the strength, he has the 221 00:11:28,297 --> 00:11:31,857 Speaker 1: guts to stand up to our foreign adversaries, and he's 222 00:11:31,897 --> 00:11:34,697 Speaker 1: not scared, he's not beholden to anybody. You look at 223 00:11:34,697 --> 00:11:37,857 Speaker 1: the money, and you really follow the money in politics 224 00:11:37,977 --> 00:11:40,857 Speaker 1: is something that I've come to know and appreciate over 225 00:11:40,857 --> 00:11:44,537 Speaker 1: the last few years. You'll realize who stands with you 226 00:11:44,817 --> 00:11:47,857 Speaker 1: and who is simply a mouthpiece for the people that 227 00:11:47,937 --> 00:11:51,257 Speaker 1: are donating to their campaign. So Donald Trump is a 228 00:11:51,297 --> 00:11:54,857 Speaker 1: really really unique individual that is not beholden to anyone 229 00:11:55,257 --> 00:11:57,457 Speaker 1: and he does speak his mind, whether you want to 230 00:11:57,457 --> 00:11:58,137 Speaker 1: hear it or not. 231 00:11:58,657 --> 00:12:01,177 Speaker 3: He'll tell you the truth. He'll tell you what's going on. 232 00:12:01,617 --> 00:12:03,257 Speaker 3: And that's the kind of leader that we really need 233 00:12:03,297 --> 00:12:04,297 Speaker 3: in America right now. 234 00:12:04,777 --> 00:12:08,657 Speaker 2: Obviously, Joe Biden's age is a major concern, but it's 235 00:12:08,697 --> 00:12:11,417 Speaker 2: a major concern in heart, not just because of the number, 236 00:12:11,457 --> 00:12:14,577 Speaker 2: but because of what is visible, which is somebody who 237 00:12:15,377 --> 00:12:17,977 Speaker 2: is I mean, just to put it nicely, to be 238 00:12:18,097 --> 00:12:20,217 Speaker 2: very polite, not up for the job. Others would say 239 00:12:20,217 --> 00:12:24,257 Speaker 2: he's you know, senile has dementia, et cetera. But he 240 00:12:24,337 --> 00:12:27,937 Speaker 2: clearly lacks energy. That can't schedule meetings. I think it's 241 00:12:28,137 --> 00:12:29,937 Speaker 2: they can only schedule them. They're saying between like ten 242 00:12:29,977 --> 00:12:33,217 Speaker 2: and four, no work outside of ten and four. For 243 00:12:33,337 --> 00:12:35,577 Speaker 2: the President of the United States, commander in chief. It 244 00:12:35,577 --> 00:12:39,177 Speaker 2: seems like that's should be a bit of a problem 245 00:12:39,177 --> 00:12:40,857 Speaker 2: for people who actually care about the best of the country. 246 00:12:40,857 --> 00:12:42,617 Speaker 2: But of course the Democrats don't care, and you're right, 247 00:12:42,657 --> 00:12:45,257 Speaker 2: they have a communist mindset, so as long as they're 248 00:12:45,297 --> 00:12:47,697 Speaker 2: in power, the leadership doesn't really matter. I bring all 249 00:12:47,697 --> 00:12:50,577 Speaker 2: this up because you know Trump, you spend time around, 250 00:12:50,577 --> 00:12:52,457 Speaker 2: if you've known him for years, you were there back 251 00:12:52,497 --> 00:12:57,297 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen as well. How's his energy? His health 252 00:12:57,337 --> 00:13:01,417 Speaker 2: is vitality. Is there any concern that anybody should have 253 00:13:01,497 --> 00:13:04,417 Speaker 2: that he is not as old as Joe Biden? Obviously, 254 00:13:04,497 --> 00:13:08,017 Speaker 2: but that his age is an issue, not. 255 00:13:08,097 --> 00:13:09,857 Speaker 1: At all, Buck And I've said this on your show, 256 00:13:09,897 --> 00:13:13,577 Speaker 1: but I'll say it again. Trump is the energizer Bunny. 257 00:13:13,617 --> 00:13:16,217 Speaker 1: When we were at the White House, everyone around him 258 00:13:16,297 --> 00:13:18,377 Speaker 1: is constantly just trying to keep up. 259 00:13:18,857 --> 00:13:22,297 Speaker 3: He's absolutely on top of everything. 260 00:13:22,417 --> 00:13:27,617 Speaker 1: He's healthy, he's active, he's cognitively with it one hundred percent. 261 00:13:28,057 --> 00:13:31,017 Speaker 3: And there's really no comparison to Joe Biden right now. 262 00:13:31,097 --> 00:13:33,777 Speaker 1: So if you put the two side by side, it's 263 00:13:33,817 --> 00:13:36,297 Speaker 1: an easy call on who's going to win. But when 264 00:13:36,377 --> 00:13:39,737 Speaker 1: it comes to age and numbers, Trump has always had 265 00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:42,697 Speaker 1: a ton of energy. He always will be honest with 266 00:13:42,737 --> 00:13:46,577 Speaker 1: the American people. He's the person really picking up the 267 00:13:46,617 --> 00:13:50,177 Speaker 1: phone and calling people at six in the morning, seven 268 00:13:50,177 --> 00:13:52,897 Speaker 1: in the morning, four in the morning, two in the morning. 269 00:13:53,297 --> 00:13:56,857 Speaker 1: I tend to question when the man sleeps or eats 270 00:13:57,097 --> 00:14:01,777 Speaker 1: or anything, because he's constantly in communication, getting advice from 271 00:14:01,817 --> 00:14:05,817 Speaker 1: different members that he trusts and communicates with. So there's 272 00:14:05,857 --> 00:14:07,857 Speaker 1: absolutely no doubt in my mind that he is up 273 00:14:07,857 --> 00:14:09,857 Speaker 1: for the job, that he's got the energy to do it, 274 00:14:10,337 --> 00:14:13,337 Speaker 1: and he's absolutely the person that we need in charge. 275 00:14:13,377 --> 00:14:15,137 Speaker 1: And I don't just say that because I worked for 276 00:14:15,217 --> 00:14:17,217 Speaker 1: him in the past. I really do think that he's 277 00:14:17,297 --> 00:14:18,337 Speaker 1: the leader for the future. 278 00:14:18,697 --> 00:14:23,017 Speaker 2: I think it's always an important marker as well for 279 00:14:23,577 --> 00:14:26,657 Speaker 2: whether somebody would go work for a person again having 280 00:14:26,697 --> 00:14:30,857 Speaker 2: had them as the boss. So if Trump wins, and 281 00:14:30,897 --> 00:14:32,817 Speaker 2: you see very confident he will, which is great, it's 282 00:14:32,857 --> 00:14:34,337 Speaker 2: good to hear. I've had some other people on the 283 00:14:34,377 --> 00:14:37,857 Speaker 2: show recently who are very Republican, who voter for Trump, 284 00:14:37,857 --> 00:14:40,777 Speaker 2: who have their concerns, So it's nice to have somebody 285 00:14:40,817 --> 00:14:44,017 Speaker 2: who has the confidence level that you do as somebody 286 00:14:44,017 --> 00:14:45,977 Speaker 2: who just doesn't want to see Joe Biden continue to 287 00:14:45,977 --> 00:14:49,497 Speaker 2: wreckt the country for four more years. Would you go 288 00:14:49,577 --> 00:14:51,817 Speaker 2: back and work in the Trump White House for a 289 00:14:51,857 --> 00:14:52,537 Speaker 2: second term? 290 00:14:54,577 --> 00:14:58,737 Speaker 1: Oh? I would be honored to have that offer given 291 00:14:58,777 --> 00:15:01,977 Speaker 1: to me. It was absolutely a privilege and a blessing 292 00:15:02,057 --> 00:15:03,857 Speaker 1: to be able to work in the Trump White House 293 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:07,137 Speaker 1: those years I will cherish for the rest of my life. 294 00:15:07,697 --> 00:15:10,457 Speaker 1: If I have the opportunity to go back, be so 295 00:15:10,537 --> 00:15:13,657 Speaker 1: blessed to do so. And I think that everybody should 296 00:15:13,697 --> 00:15:17,417 Speaker 1: have that mindset of being a civil servant, because regardless 297 00:15:17,457 --> 00:15:21,937 Speaker 1: if you are a career politician or not, that should 298 00:15:22,017 --> 00:15:24,777 Speaker 1: be the mindset if you work in politics, it's not 299 00:15:24,937 --> 00:15:28,657 Speaker 1: about you, It's about the mission. It absolutely is with 300 00:15:28,777 --> 00:15:31,577 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in charge, and if we have more people 301 00:15:31,617 --> 00:15:34,417 Speaker 1: around him that keep that mindset, the country will be 302 00:15:34,417 --> 00:15:35,497 Speaker 1: a much better place. 303 00:15:35,617 --> 00:15:37,417 Speaker 3: Joe Biden has I. 304 00:15:37,377 --> 00:15:40,297 Speaker 1: Want to say, around eighty percent of his staff worked 305 00:15:40,337 --> 00:15:43,777 Speaker 1: for him in Obama in the past. It's some exorbitant 306 00:15:43,857 --> 00:15:46,817 Speaker 1: number of career politicians that are at the helm of 307 00:15:46,857 --> 00:15:50,617 Speaker 1: the government right now doing what destroying it. The people 308 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:53,697 Speaker 1: that have been in this industry for decades clearly don't 309 00:15:53,737 --> 00:15:54,577 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. 310 00:15:54,697 --> 00:15:55,577 Speaker 3: So if you can. 311 00:15:55,497 --> 00:15:59,297 Speaker 1: Have people that are passionate, people that want to devote 312 00:15:59,297 --> 00:16:01,137 Speaker 1: a few more years of their life to try to 313 00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:03,297 Speaker 1: help turn this country around and get it in the 314 00:16:03,337 --> 00:16:03,937 Speaker 1: right direction. 315 00:16:04,977 --> 00:16:07,457 Speaker 3: Absolutely more power to them than I hope they do. 316 00:16:08,777 --> 00:16:09,177 Speaker 1: Now. 317 00:16:09,657 --> 00:16:14,177 Speaker 2: I do want to ask you the staff around Trump 318 00:16:14,257 --> 00:16:17,337 Speaker 2: right now in the campaign and the people, you know, 319 00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:20,337 Speaker 2: one thing that Trump has been I think very He 320 00:16:20,737 --> 00:16:25,457 Speaker 2: has honestly shared that there were some personnel mistakes in 321 00:16:25,497 --> 00:16:27,617 Speaker 2: the past, right, that there were some issues with some 322 00:16:27,617 --> 00:16:29,857 Speaker 2: of the people who had worked for him. I mean 323 00:16:30,537 --> 00:16:32,857 Speaker 2: Scaramucci and i'm a Rosa. I mean there are people 324 00:16:32,857 --> 00:16:36,337 Speaker 2: that have made effectively careers of going after him after 325 00:16:36,377 --> 00:16:37,937 Speaker 2: having worked from which I just think is a very 326 00:16:39,697 --> 00:16:41,457 Speaker 2: It's a very dishonorable thing to do to go work 327 00:16:41,457 --> 00:16:43,337 Speaker 2: for a White House and then try to sell books 328 00:16:43,377 --> 00:16:46,897 Speaker 2: or something afterwards by by trashing the person that you 329 00:16:47,217 --> 00:16:50,537 Speaker 2: were supposed to be helping serve the American people. But 330 00:16:51,257 --> 00:16:54,497 Speaker 2: is there any sense that you have that this time around, 331 00:16:55,297 --> 00:16:58,257 Speaker 2: you know, they will have a little bit more of 332 00:16:58,297 --> 00:17:01,817 Speaker 2: a refined list of who should have access to the president. 333 00:17:01,857 --> 00:17:03,337 Speaker 2: And you know, you may have seen he's going to 334 00:17:03,417 --> 00:17:06,537 Speaker 2: be going on CNN next week in a town hall. 335 00:17:07,017 --> 00:17:09,777 Speaker 2: Does he just relish the opportunity to like fight with 336 00:17:09,817 --> 00:17:12,697 Speaker 2: the GBBS? Like what to me? It seems like that's 337 00:17:13,777 --> 00:17:16,297 Speaker 2: they're gonna ambush him. I mean, not like that's there'd 338 00:17:16,337 --> 00:17:18,977 Speaker 2: be the millionth time they've done it. But you know, 339 00:17:19,417 --> 00:17:21,577 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I'm asking is the approach 340 00:17:21,657 --> 00:17:23,857 Speaker 2: gonna be the same or do you feel like he's 341 00:17:23,857 --> 00:17:25,697 Speaker 2: shaking things up a little bit, both in terms of 342 00:17:25,697 --> 00:17:27,457 Speaker 2: personnel and the way he deals with the media, which 343 00:17:27,457 --> 00:17:28,177 Speaker 2: is kind of related. 344 00:17:30,537 --> 00:17:35,577 Speaker 1: One of the things that I have absolutely found fascinating 345 00:17:35,577 --> 00:17:37,937 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump is that he is not scared to 346 00:17:38,017 --> 00:17:42,097 Speaker 1: have a variety of advisors around him. I think that 347 00:17:42,097 --> 00:17:47,137 Speaker 1: that makes for a tremendous leader. If you have so 348 00:17:47,257 --> 00:17:51,097 Speaker 1: many different viewpoints coming your way all the time, you 349 00:17:51,217 --> 00:17:54,617 Speaker 1: have every option if you have different viewpoints, and then 350 00:17:54,777 --> 00:17:58,177 Speaker 1: as a strong leader, you can make the right decision when. 351 00:17:57,977 --> 00:17:58,937 Speaker 3: It comes to staff. 352 00:17:59,137 --> 00:18:02,337 Speaker 1: We did have some leakers last time around, but I 353 00:18:02,417 --> 00:18:04,857 Speaker 1: will say that going into a second term with this 354 00:18:05,057 --> 00:18:09,017 Speaker 1: gap in the middle does give us the opportunity to 355 00:18:09,137 --> 00:18:11,857 Speaker 1: pick out the people who have, like you said, made 356 00:18:11,857 --> 00:18:15,377 Speaker 1: themselves known. They've written a book, or they've taken a 357 00:18:15,457 --> 00:18:18,497 Speaker 1: job on a TV show where they are daily talking 358 00:18:18,537 --> 00:18:22,177 Speaker 1: about how they don't like Donald Trump anymore. So I 359 00:18:22,217 --> 00:18:24,537 Speaker 1: don't think any of them are really hiding. They're all 360 00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:27,497 Speaker 1: out there in plain sight. They will not get a 361 00:18:27,577 --> 00:18:29,457 Speaker 1: job with Donald Trump in the future. 362 00:18:29,897 --> 00:18:31,257 Speaker 3: And I won't name names. 363 00:18:31,337 --> 00:18:34,897 Speaker 1: I learned from one of my favorite women in politics, 364 00:18:34,977 --> 00:18:37,337 Speaker 1: one of the smartest women I know, Kelly and Conway, 365 00:18:37,377 --> 00:18:41,857 Speaker 1: said that if you are talking about individuals, there's no substance. 366 00:18:41,417 --> 00:18:44,377 Speaker 3: To that conversation. So I won't name names. 367 00:18:44,417 --> 00:18:46,577 Speaker 1: I'll move forward and say that I think the president 368 00:18:46,617 --> 00:18:48,897 Speaker 1: makes strong decisions when it comes to his staff and 369 00:18:48,937 --> 00:18:53,737 Speaker 1: his leadership. And the mainstream media is having this frenzy 370 00:18:53,937 --> 00:18:58,297 Speaker 1: around the conversation that former Trump staffers are leaving to 371 00:18:58,377 --> 00:19:02,017 Speaker 1: go work for a pro DeSantis pack. Need I point 372 00:19:02,057 --> 00:19:05,577 Speaker 1: out that many of the members on Trump's current team 373 00:19:05,857 --> 00:19:09,777 Speaker 1: are former DeSantis staffers. So if you want to have 374 00:19:09,817 --> 00:19:12,377 Speaker 1: that conversation, it's going to be a losing one for 375 00:19:12,457 --> 00:19:15,777 Speaker 1: the media. They will come to find out very quickly 376 00:19:16,257 --> 00:19:19,097 Speaker 1: that Trump has a lot of former DeSantis people that 377 00:19:19,097 --> 00:19:21,657 Speaker 1: are working for him, that know him very well, that 378 00:19:21,697 --> 00:19:24,497 Speaker 1: have been around DeSantis for a very long time and 379 00:19:24,577 --> 00:19:27,057 Speaker 1: have chosen not to work for him again. So that's 380 00:19:27,097 --> 00:19:29,897 Speaker 1: an interesting narrative that you're not hearing about. It really 381 00:19:29,937 --> 00:19:33,057 Speaker 1: is at the staff level, and I don't know that 382 00:19:33,057 --> 00:19:36,097 Speaker 1: it's necessarily important for the American people to pay attention 383 00:19:36,177 --> 00:19:38,697 Speaker 1: to because, like I said, Donald Trump is the clear 384 00:19:38,737 --> 00:19:41,737 Speaker 1: front runner right now. DeSantis has not announced, and so 385 00:19:41,817 --> 00:19:43,777 Speaker 1: we need to focus on the reality of what we're 386 00:19:43,777 --> 00:19:44,697 Speaker 1: living in currently. 387 00:19:45,057 --> 00:19:47,817 Speaker 2: What do you think about the CNN town hall? Is 388 00:19:47,857 --> 00:19:52,257 Speaker 2: this just I feel like it's weird because Trump broks 389 00:19:52,297 --> 00:19:57,217 Speaker 2: CNN as an institution, Like he brokes CNN. I mean, 390 00:19:57,257 --> 00:20:00,897 Speaker 2: Don Lemon is gone now, but CNN also kind of 391 00:20:01,057 --> 00:20:04,097 Speaker 2: needs Trump because they have what to CNN exists to 392 00:20:04,177 --> 00:20:07,177 Speaker 2: do without him. So I can understand why from a 393 00:20:07,257 --> 00:20:11,857 Speaker 2: ratings perspective and a relev really irrelevant and perspective, why 394 00:20:11,937 --> 00:20:14,377 Speaker 2: they would want to have this town hall. But I mean, 395 00:20:14,417 --> 00:20:16,697 Speaker 2: you worked in the comm side for the Trump White House, 396 00:20:16,737 --> 00:20:19,137 Speaker 2: Like what does Trump? What is he going to want 397 00:20:19,137 --> 00:20:21,777 Speaker 2: to accomplish by doing a town hall? It's you know, 398 00:20:21,857 --> 00:20:23,537 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure who the moderator is. I assume 399 00:20:23,537 --> 00:20:25,897 Speaker 2: it's Blitzer or Tapper or one of those guys. But 400 00:20:26,497 --> 00:20:28,177 Speaker 2: you know, what's the upside for him? Like, what's the 401 00:20:28,217 --> 00:20:29,337 Speaker 2: thinking behind this one? 402 00:20:30,777 --> 00:20:35,217 Speaker 1: Well? Trump definitely brought back the ratings to TV. There's 403 00:20:35,497 --> 00:20:39,937 Speaker 1: no way around that conversation. Everybody with eyes and ears 404 00:20:39,977 --> 00:20:44,017 Speaker 1: could see that TV was declining before Trump decided to 405 00:20:44,097 --> 00:20:46,537 Speaker 1: run for office, I don't know if the platform would 406 00:20:46,537 --> 00:20:49,857 Speaker 1: even be what it is today network aside just the 407 00:20:50,137 --> 00:20:53,497 Speaker 1: entire media platform, I don't know what it would be 408 00:20:53,577 --> 00:20:55,097 Speaker 1: today without Donald Trump. 409 00:20:55,137 --> 00:20:58,577 Speaker 3: He really did revive the industry. If you talk to. 410 00:20:58,497 --> 00:21:00,497 Speaker 1: The reporters at the White House right now that are 411 00:21:00,497 --> 00:21:03,497 Speaker 1: covering Joe Biden, they'll tell you that they're bored. They 412 00:21:03,537 --> 00:21:06,217 Speaker 1: don't have anything to talk about. They don't get any 413 00:21:06,297 --> 00:21:09,657 Speaker 1: information out of him or their White House that's currently there. 414 00:21:10,297 --> 00:21:14,537 Speaker 1: They're ignored by the staffers. And so Donald Trump really 415 00:21:14,577 --> 00:21:18,497 Speaker 1: does help the industry absolutely, one hundred percent. But one 416 00:21:18,497 --> 00:21:22,297 Speaker 1: thing that people forget is that, yes, he is absolutely 417 00:21:22,297 --> 00:21:27,017 Speaker 1: the leader of the Republican Party, but he also speaks 418 00:21:27,057 --> 00:21:31,417 Speaker 1: to Democrats and independents very well. Might I add, so 419 00:21:31,497 --> 00:21:34,177 Speaker 1: if he's going on CNN, it's because he and his 420 00:21:34,217 --> 00:21:37,137 Speaker 1: team inside have done the polling and the data, and 421 00:21:37,177 --> 00:21:39,537 Speaker 1: they have the numbers to prove that if he goes 422 00:21:39,577 --> 00:21:42,137 Speaker 1: on that platform, it's going to be a benefit for him. 423 00:21:42,377 --> 00:21:45,337 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is extremely calculated. He is one of the 424 00:21:45,377 --> 00:21:47,897 Speaker 1: smartest people in the world, and there's no way that 425 00:21:47,937 --> 00:21:50,017 Speaker 1: he would be doing that if they didn't already know that. 426 00:21:50,057 --> 00:21:51,577 Speaker 3: It would benefit him in the long run. 427 00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:54,017 Speaker 2: Let's come back in a second room and talk about 428 00:21:54,057 --> 00:21:56,857 Speaker 2: the economy of everybody. 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She did a good job. 458 00:23:19,697 --> 00:23:21,417 Speaker 3: So we're talking about tech. 459 00:23:21,817 --> 00:23:24,817 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you were talking about tech jobs and everything else, 460 00:23:24,977 --> 00:23:29,097 Speaker 2: and tech jobs are being they're hemorrhaging tech jobs right now. 461 00:23:29,657 --> 00:23:35,577 Speaker 2: And the banking sector crisis is something that people feels 462 00:23:35,617 --> 00:23:38,537 Speaker 2: like aren't really paying very much. Attench. Here's here's a 463 00:23:38,577 --> 00:23:41,017 Speaker 2: thesis I want you to run with. If a Republican 464 00:23:41,377 --> 00:23:47,537 Speaker 2: we're presiding over the collapse of Silicon Valley as the 465 00:23:47,577 --> 00:23:50,737 Speaker 2: primary engine of like the Nasdaq and the stock market 466 00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:53,937 Speaker 2: in terms of growth, and people just hemorrhaging jobs out 467 00:23:53,977 --> 00:23:57,337 Speaker 2: of the biggest companies, the deterioration and the commercial real 468 00:23:57,457 --> 00:24:00,097 Speaker 2: estate market which is happening in San Francisco and other cities. 469 00:24:00,137 --> 00:24:03,217 Speaker 2: I mean massive deterioration and the biggest bank failure since 470 00:24:03,217 --> 00:24:05,057 Speaker 2: two thousand and I feel like it'd be a bigger deal, 471 00:24:05,097 --> 00:24:06,337 Speaker 2: And I feel like you were trying to make that 472 00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:07,297 Speaker 2: point on Fox. 473 00:24:08,977 --> 00:24:12,857 Speaker 1: Absolutely, when you look at the broader economic environment, people 474 00:24:12,977 --> 00:24:16,417 Speaker 1: should have their eyes open and be concerned. People should 475 00:24:16,417 --> 00:24:18,737 Speaker 1: be paying attention to this. But it's just simply not 476 00:24:18,857 --> 00:24:22,057 Speaker 1: something that the media has decided to talk about. The 477 00:24:22,057 --> 00:24:25,857 Speaker 1: Biden White House is gaslighting the American people when they 478 00:24:25,857 --> 00:24:29,337 Speaker 1: talk about this issue. Just today, they mentioned that the 479 00:24:29,377 --> 00:24:32,817 Speaker 1: taxpayer is not going to have the burden of saving 480 00:24:32,897 --> 00:24:34,377 Speaker 1: these banks that are failing. 481 00:24:34,777 --> 00:24:35,817 Speaker 3: That's not the case. 482 00:24:35,977 --> 00:24:39,297 Speaker 1: Anybody with the basic understanding of what's going to happen 483 00:24:39,377 --> 00:24:42,257 Speaker 1: right now knows that this is going to eventually fall 484 00:24:42,337 --> 00:24:46,777 Speaker 1: on the taxpayer. And we are already struggling with inflation, 485 00:24:47,017 --> 00:24:50,697 Speaker 1: we are already struggling with the current economic environment, and 486 00:24:50,817 --> 00:24:52,937 Speaker 1: it's going to fall in those who need it most. 487 00:24:53,057 --> 00:24:56,697 Speaker 1: It's going to go to the lower class citizens that 488 00:24:56,777 --> 00:24:59,817 Speaker 1: are really going to carry the brunt of this burden. 489 00:24:59,977 --> 00:25:03,737 Speaker 1: So it's extremely unfortunate that Joe Biden hasn't found a 490 00:25:03,737 --> 00:25:06,137 Speaker 1: way to be honest with the American people, because it's 491 00:25:06,217 --> 00:25:09,817 Speaker 1: causing confusion and chaos amongst the community. 492 00:25:10,057 --> 00:25:14,137 Speaker 2: I think the GOP on just a you know, at 493 00:25:14,297 --> 00:25:18,497 Speaker 2: RNC level national messaging because here's my here's my concern. 494 00:25:19,217 --> 00:25:21,097 Speaker 2: We had a week economy going into the twenty twenty 495 00:25:21,137 --> 00:25:24,737 Speaker 2: two midterms, inflation at a forty year high, and it 496 00:25:24,777 --> 00:25:28,777 Speaker 2: didn't translate into the victories we had hoped in some 497 00:25:29,417 --> 00:25:32,617 Speaker 2: you know, very close Senate and House and gubernature. Really 498 00:25:32,657 --> 00:25:34,377 Speaker 2: a Senate races are the ones I'm most focused on. 499 00:25:34,537 --> 00:25:38,737 Speaker 2: Some gubernatorial races too, and everyone always says, oh, it's 500 00:25:38,737 --> 00:25:41,937 Speaker 2: the economies do but well, apparently it wasn't the economy, 501 00:25:42,137 --> 00:25:43,697 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, apparently there was something 502 00:25:43,737 --> 00:25:45,897 Speaker 2: other stuff going on? Or was it that there hadn't 503 00:25:45,937 --> 00:25:49,337 Speaker 2: been enough of a connection made at the national level 504 00:25:49,377 --> 00:25:53,577 Speaker 2: by GOP voices to explain what was going on? And 505 00:25:53,937 --> 00:25:56,377 Speaker 2: you know, how how do you assess that? Like why 506 00:25:56,377 --> 00:25:59,137 Speaker 2: didn't the week economy in twenty twenty two turn into 507 00:25:59,177 --> 00:26:01,857 Speaker 2: more victories? And how could it in twenty twenty four. 508 00:26:03,377 --> 00:26:05,897 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate to give credit to the Republicans or 509 00:26:05,937 --> 00:26:08,977 Speaker 1: to the Democrats, I'm sorry, but they really do a 510 00:26:09,017 --> 00:26:11,617 Speaker 1: good job of st on message when they're in an 511 00:26:11,617 --> 00:26:15,017 Speaker 1: election cycle, and they did that. They really pushed these 512 00:26:15,097 --> 00:26:20,257 Speaker 1: kind of tear jerking issues like abortion in the states 513 00:26:20,297 --> 00:26:22,377 Speaker 1: where they knew that it was going to be a 514 00:26:22,457 --> 00:26:25,897 Speaker 1: tough race for Republicans and they were able to push 515 00:26:25,937 --> 00:26:27,297 Speaker 1: that over the finish line. 516 00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:28,177 Speaker 3: It's something that. 517 00:26:28,177 --> 00:26:31,577 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is making a key part of his current 518 00:26:31,657 --> 00:26:35,017 Speaker 1: re election campaign, which I find to be very odd 519 00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:40,977 Speaker 1: and honestly upsetting, but it's something that is effective, and 520 00:26:41,017 --> 00:26:42,937 Speaker 1: the Republicans are going to have to learn how to 521 00:26:43,017 --> 00:26:46,057 Speaker 1: sing from the same song sheet if they want to have, 522 00:26:47,097 --> 00:26:53,777 Speaker 1: you know, overall, widespread victories come this next election cycle, 523 00:26:53,817 --> 00:26:56,017 Speaker 1: because it does matter, It does make a difference, and 524 00:26:56,097 --> 00:27:00,057 Speaker 1: it is it's local issues, it's grassroots issues, but it 525 00:27:00,737 --> 00:27:03,217 Speaker 1: is the same at the national level. When you're talking 526 00:27:03,297 --> 00:27:06,617 Speaker 1: about states like Arizona where you had such a tough 527 00:27:06,657 --> 00:27:10,017 Speaker 1: time winning that Senate seat. I mean, it's the lie 528 00:27:10,297 --> 00:27:12,417 Speaker 1: that come from the left that people have a really 529 00:27:12,457 --> 00:27:17,977 Speaker 1: hard time seeing through, especially because the media is amplifying 530 00:27:18,057 --> 00:27:21,377 Speaker 1: those lies. It's really very tough and it has to 531 00:27:21,417 --> 00:27:24,817 Speaker 1: be something that we focus on with our message moving forward, 532 00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:27,937 Speaker 1: or it's not going to have a positive outcome. 533 00:27:28,417 --> 00:27:32,497 Speaker 2: What do you think are the three places or I 534 00:27:32,497 --> 00:27:34,617 Speaker 2: shouldn't put a number on it, Just tell me what 535 00:27:34,857 --> 00:27:38,137 Speaker 2: comes to mind when I say the places where Trump 536 00:27:38,217 --> 00:27:43,537 Speaker 2: can make gains with independent voters in the upcoming election 537 00:27:43,777 --> 00:27:46,577 Speaker 2: based on the issues as they stand right now. I know, 538 00:27:46,617 --> 00:27:48,177 Speaker 2: you know, we could be at war with China and 539 00:27:48,217 --> 00:27:50,737 Speaker 2: you know the future, who knows, right, But based on 540 00:27:50,777 --> 00:27:52,817 Speaker 2: what we're seeing right now, I think it's just helpful 541 00:27:52,817 --> 00:27:55,577 Speaker 2: for people to know what the template will be to 542 00:27:55,657 --> 00:28:01,177 Speaker 2: win over those in those independents in Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, 543 00:28:01,297 --> 00:28:03,417 Speaker 2: and you know the handful of states that matter. 544 00:28:05,097 --> 00:28:07,697 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is going to come down to the issues. 545 00:28:07,857 --> 00:28:10,577 Speaker 1: And I think that you'll see if you pay attention 546 00:28:10,657 --> 00:28:13,897 Speaker 1: to the state and local politics. There's been a large 547 00:28:13,937 --> 00:28:19,297 Speaker 1: turnover on attorney generals, on state council even something as 548 00:28:19,337 --> 00:28:24,217 Speaker 1: small as school board members have been flipping to Republicans, 549 00:28:24,737 --> 00:28:28,177 Speaker 1: vocal Republicans throughout the country. So I think those things 550 00:28:28,257 --> 00:28:30,257 Speaker 1: are really going to make a difference when it comes 551 00:28:30,297 --> 00:28:36,977 Speaker 1: to having a good ground starting point for presidential contender 552 00:28:37,057 --> 00:28:40,137 Speaker 1: for President Trump when he is in the general election 553 00:28:40,297 --> 00:28:43,337 Speaker 1: across the country, but he had some very strong numbers 554 00:28:43,377 --> 00:28:45,697 Speaker 1: when he ran in twenty sixteen, and I think you're 555 00:28:45,737 --> 00:28:48,137 Speaker 1: going to see that come back, mainly because Joe Biden 556 00:28:48,177 --> 00:28:50,417 Speaker 1: has shown the American people just in a matter of 557 00:28:50,417 --> 00:28:53,297 Speaker 1: over two years that they can't get the job done, 558 00:28:53,657 --> 00:28:55,977 Speaker 1: that they cannot do anything that is going to help 559 00:28:56,017 --> 00:28:59,017 Speaker 1: your family at the kitchen table, and those things make 560 00:28:59,057 --> 00:29:03,337 Speaker 1: a difference to the voter. The left again really kind 561 00:29:03,377 --> 00:29:06,777 Speaker 1: of pulling on those those lies that they talked about 562 00:29:06,857 --> 00:29:10,017 Speaker 1: when they're speaking to suburban women. But there's a law 563 00:29:10,137 --> 00:29:12,977 Speaker 1: arch part of the population right now that's paying attention, 564 00:29:13,497 --> 00:29:15,497 Speaker 1: and it's going to be the young voters. It's people 565 00:29:15,577 --> 00:29:19,937 Speaker 1: our age buck, it's gen Z, it's millennials, and so 566 00:29:20,057 --> 00:29:22,177 Speaker 1: we really do need to do a good job at 567 00:29:22,217 --> 00:29:25,777 Speaker 1: paying attention to that section of the voter population because 568 00:29:25,817 --> 00:29:28,177 Speaker 1: if we don't, it's going to be tough to pull 569 00:29:28,217 --> 00:29:32,217 Speaker 1: out a win. You know, this isn't your grandfather's political 570 00:29:32,257 --> 00:29:36,137 Speaker 1: party anymore. It's not your grandfather's economy anymore. 571 00:29:36,977 --> 00:29:38,137 Speaker 3: It's a totally. 572 00:29:37,737 --> 00:29:40,497 Speaker 1: Different ballgame, and we have to get with the times 573 00:29:40,577 --> 00:29:42,177 Speaker 1: if we're going to be successful. 574 00:29:42,497 --> 00:29:45,817 Speaker 2: I want to ask you, as a Californian comm's person 575 00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:49,897 Speaker 2: and a Californian about Gavin about Gavin Newsom to close 576 00:29:49,937 --> 00:29:54,057 Speaker 2: us out here in just a second aroma. But yeah, yeah, yeah, 577 00:29:54,097 --> 00:29:56,017 Speaker 2: Well I'll give you an opportunity to tee off on 578 00:29:56,097 --> 00:29:57,977 Speaker 2: things a little bit, so it'll send us off with 579 00:29:58,017 --> 00:29:59,697 Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit of pep in 580 00:29:59,777 --> 00:30:01,897 Speaker 2: the step. But first off, I got to tell everybody 581 00:30:02,897 --> 00:30:05,097 Speaker 2: this doesn't apply to ladies out there, but for the guys. 582 00:30:05,937 --> 00:30:08,337 Speaker 2: You notice on my beard actually was gone. Now it's 583 00:30:08,337 --> 00:30:09,977 Speaker 2: grown back. But you know how I get rid of it. Guys, 584 00:30:10,177 --> 00:30:13,337 Speaker 2: the one blade one blade shave. You need to check 585 00:30:13,377 --> 00:30:16,177 Speaker 2: out this razor company. Big razor companies out there have 586 00:30:16,177 --> 00:30:18,697 Speaker 2: been lying to you for years because they say more 587 00:30:18,737 --> 00:30:20,737 Speaker 2: blades is better. No, those just because those are low 588 00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:22,857 Speaker 2: quality blades. That's why you need three or four, eight 589 00:30:22,937 --> 00:30:26,577 Speaker 2: or whatever. One blade shave uses one razor because it 590 00:30:26,617 --> 00:30:29,977 Speaker 2: is super high quality, which means you have less skin irritation, 591 00:30:30,137 --> 00:30:31,897 Speaker 2: gets a closer shave for you. It's what I'll be 592 00:30:31,937 --> 00:30:34,097 Speaker 2: doing later today before I go on Fox News tonight, 593 00:30:34,417 --> 00:30:36,897 Speaker 2: so that you know I'll look like I actually got 594 00:30:36,977 --> 00:30:38,937 Speaker 2: up and did my job today and didn't just wake 595 00:30:39,017 --> 00:30:41,457 Speaker 2: up a few minutes ago. One blade's handle is metal, 596 00:30:41,497 --> 00:30:44,617 Speaker 2: not plastic. It is weighty, is substantial, It's worthy of 597 00:30:44,657 --> 00:30:47,377 Speaker 2: a man's face. 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So 607 00:31:17,497 --> 00:31:19,977 Speaker 2: much good about California that we could talk about, right, 608 00:31:20,177 --> 00:31:24,097 Speaker 2: so many nice things. The politics, though awful. Gavin Newsom 609 00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:26,737 Speaker 2: is the governor. There are those out there who make 610 00:31:26,817 --> 00:31:30,857 Speaker 2: the case that Gavin Newsom could be either part of 611 00:31:30,857 --> 00:31:34,977 Speaker 2: a plan to push Biden aside or if Biden, you know, 612 00:31:35,057 --> 00:31:37,457 Speaker 2: he's eighty two years old, can make it through to 613 00:31:37,497 --> 00:31:41,577 Speaker 2: the election. Obviously there's Kamala Harris, but maybe maybe they 614 00:31:41,617 --> 00:31:43,617 Speaker 2: want somebody that think could actually win in a general election. 615 00:31:44,657 --> 00:31:48,097 Speaker 2: Ergo Gavin Newsom. Do you think Gavin nuw First of all, 616 00:31:48,097 --> 00:31:50,377 Speaker 2: do you think Gavin Newsom wants to be president? And 617 00:31:50,417 --> 00:31:55,177 Speaker 2: does that thought terrify you because you think it's a possibility, you're. 618 00:31:55,097 --> 00:31:59,137 Speaker 1: Reading my mind. It's absolutely terrifying. He absolutely wants to 619 00:31:59,137 --> 00:32:02,297 Speaker 1: be president. I don't know that the man has a 620 00:32:02,337 --> 00:32:04,937 Speaker 1: single bone in his body that wouldn't do something to 621 00:32:04,977 --> 00:32:08,257 Speaker 1: make himself more famous and rich, and running for presidential 622 00:32:08,297 --> 00:32:10,737 Speaker 1: election would certainly put more money in his pocket and 623 00:32:10,737 --> 00:32:13,937 Speaker 1: give him a larger platform. So, yes, he wants to 624 00:32:14,017 --> 00:32:17,657 Speaker 1: run for president. Do I think that he is going 625 00:32:17,697 --> 00:32:18,497 Speaker 1: to win? No? 626 00:32:18,777 --> 00:32:20,177 Speaker 3: Do I think that he should run? 627 00:32:20,257 --> 00:32:20,377 Speaker 1: No? 628 00:32:20,537 --> 00:32:22,617 Speaker 3: Do I think that he should resign? Yes? 629 00:32:24,497 --> 00:32:28,697 Speaker 1: I hate him. He's terrible and I literally never talk 630 00:32:28,777 --> 00:32:34,057 Speaker 1: about that about anybody, but he is absolutely doing everything 631 00:32:34,137 --> 00:32:37,097 Speaker 1: he can to hurt the American people, and the people 632 00:32:37,137 --> 00:32:40,017 Speaker 1: in California deserve better. I can't tell you how many 633 00:32:40,057 --> 00:32:42,697 Speaker 1: family and friends have left the state of California because 634 00:32:42,697 --> 00:32:45,897 Speaker 1: they just can't stand his policies anymore. It's terrible, and 635 00:32:45,977 --> 00:32:50,257 Speaker 1: he's grooming the next generation of politicians as well. We 636 00:32:50,377 --> 00:32:54,857 Speaker 1: had some really terrible redistricting done in California and my 637 00:32:55,017 --> 00:32:58,777 Speaker 1: home district in Orange County ended up flipping blue again. 638 00:32:58,937 --> 00:33:01,137 Speaker 3: We have Katie Porter as. 639 00:33:00,977 --> 00:33:05,017 Speaker 1: Our representative right now, which makes absolutely no sense. But 640 00:33:05,057 --> 00:33:06,817 Speaker 1: one thing that I will point out is I don't 641 00:33:06,857 --> 00:33:09,737 Speaker 1: think the Left has rules for themselves anymore when it 642 00:33:09,777 --> 00:33:16,977 Speaker 1: comes to respecting the current leadership in their team. So 643 00:33:17,417 --> 00:33:21,057 Speaker 1: Katie Porter, who is very very close with Gavin Newsom 644 00:33:21,057 --> 00:33:24,617 Speaker 1: and Nancy Pelosi, announced just seventy two hours after she 645 00:33:24,697 --> 00:33:28,217 Speaker 1: became a congresswoman that she's running for Senate. There's no 646 00:33:28,337 --> 00:33:32,817 Speaker 1: open seat in California, so how disrespectful of her to 647 00:33:32,977 --> 00:33:36,337 Speaker 1: her current sitting senator to say that she's going to 648 00:33:36,417 --> 00:33:38,857 Speaker 1: run for her seat when Fine Stine hasn't even resigned yet. 649 00:33:38,897 --> 00:33:41,777 Speaker 1: So what's going on over there is certainly tumultuous. It 650 00:33:41,777 --> 00:33:44,057 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense for them as a party. I 651 00:33:44,057 --> 00:33:46,577 Speaker 1: think it's an opportunity for us to kind of play 652 00:33:46,617 --> 00:33:50,497 Speaker 1: with the turmoil and gain some seats because of that. 653 00:33:50,817 --> 00:33:55,177 Speaker 1: I'm very excited that a friend of mine, Max foroc 654 00:33:55,737 --> 00:33:58,737 Speaker 1: dot Com, has just announced that he's running for Congress. 655 00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:02,177 Speaker 3: He's already raised over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 656 00:34:02,217 --> 00:34:06,097 Speaker 3: in his first week running, all small money, all small donors. 657 00:34:06,817 --> 00:34:09,657 Speaker 3: So I think that there really is excitement in the 658 00:34:09,657 --> 00:34:13,337 Speaker 3: state of California to gain some of that freedom back, 659 00:34:13,497 --> 00:34:18,137 Speaker 3: to gain some of that America First policy in the state. 660 00:34:18,297 --> 00:34:22,537 Speaker 3: And I don't know that it's necessarily going to happen overnight, 661 00:34:23,177 --> 00:34:26,697 Speaker 3: but I have this conversation with Larry Cadlow often, and 662 00:34:26,737 --> 00:34:28,617 Speaker 3: he makes fun of me for it because I have 663 00:34:28,657 --> 00:34:32,057 Speaker 3: a bleeding heart for California. But I do think that 664 00:34:32,137 --> 00:34:33,697 Speaker 3: we should not give up on the state. 665 00:34:33,857 --> 00:34:36,377 Speaker 1: I think that we need to pay more attention as 666 00:34:36,417 --> 00:34:40,497 Speaker 1: a party as Republicans to California because there is a 667 00:34:40,657 --> 00:34:43,497 Speaker 1: lot of ground we can cover there if we focus 668 00:34:43,537 --> 00:34:46,697 Speaker 1: on certain areas. There's a lot of money there. We 669 00:34:46,817 --> 00:34:48,577 Speaker 1: know that as a party, we get a lot of 670 00:34:48,617 --> 00:34:52,137 Speaker 1: our donor dollars from the state of California alone. Both 671 00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:54,737 Speaker 1: parties do, but the Republicans do as well. So when 672 00:34:54,777 --> 00:34:57,937 Speaker 1: people call it a blue state, they're really not paying attention. 673 00:34:58,097 --> 00:35:00,857 Speaker 1: They're just listening to the megaphone that's coming from San 674 00:35:00,897 --> 00:35:04,417 Speaker 1: Francisco and Los Angeles and ignoring the farmland in between. 675 00:35:04,897 --> 00:35:08,297 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin McCarthy is our speaker from California, and 676 00:35:08,377 --> 00:35:11,817 Speaker 1: he's doing a really amazing job helping the American people 677 00:35:12,257 --> 00:35:15,937 Speaker 1: see what Joe Biden is doing and also making progress 678 00:35:15,977 --> 00:35:18,697 Speaker 1: when it comes to protecting our rights and our values 679 00:35:19,137 --> 00:35:21,897 Speaker 1: as a country. So if we have more of that 680 00:35:22,137 --> 00:35:24,937 Speaker 1: at the local level, it will only help the party 681 00:35:25,017 --> 00:35:27,897 Speaker 1: as a whole. And it really wasn't that long ago 682 00:35:28,057 --> 00:35:31,097 Speaker 1: that Florida was considered kind of a purple blue state. 683 00:35:31,257 --> 00:35:34,057 Speaker 1: Now look at it, I really think that California could 684 00:35:34,057 --> 00:35:34,697 Speaker 1: be the same way. 685 00:35:35,657 --> 00:35:37,977 Speaker 2: Roma, Where should folks go to follow your work and 686 00:35:38,057 --> 00:35:40,017 Speaker 2: see more of your commentary. 687 00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:43,457 Speaker 1: At Roma Deravi on Twitter and Instagram. You can find 688 00:35:43,537 --> 00:35:45,257 Speaker 1: everything that I do. I posted all there. 689 00:35:45,737 --> 00:35:47,457 Speaker 2: Fantastic Roma, Thank you so much. 690 00:35:47,857 --> 00:35:49,137 Speaker 3: Thanks Beut. Great to be on with you.