1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Menkey's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. There's a reason game shows are so entertaining. 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Viewers love watching everyday people test their skills and change 8 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: their lives. Answering questions correctly or competing in physical challenges 9 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: can lead to big ratings and big money. Ken Jenning's 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: famously one seventy four games of Jeopardy, earning a total 11 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: of four point three million dollars. This led to Jenning's 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: becoming an author, a magazine columnist, and even a temporary 13 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: host of Jeopardy itself. Perform well on a game show 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: and a lot can change quickly, but one woman's appearance 15 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: on a popular program in the nineteen fifties did more 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: than make her famous. It made her a household name 17 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: for generations to come. Joyce Bauer was born in Brooklyn, 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: New York in n but raised in Queens. Her parents 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: were lawyers who ran their own practices and demanded greatness 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: from their children, boy or girl. The expectations were clear, 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: do well in your studies if you want to do 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: well in life. As a result, Joyce spent a lot 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: of her time with her nose in a book. After 24 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: graduating high school, she enrolled at Cornell University, where she 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: majored in both home economics and psychology. Her efforts earned 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: a Bachelor of Science degree with honors, after which she 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: attended Columbia University to get her masters and then a 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: pH d in psychology. Joyce never stopped learning, nor did 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: she ever grow complacent. Her studies led to several jobs 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: over the years, including one as a research assistant at Lumbia, 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: followed by a research fellowship at the United Nations Educational, 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: Scientific and Cultural Organization otherwise known as UNESCO. However, her 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: big break, so to speak, came in nineteen fifty. Joyce, 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: then twenty years old and married with a child, was 35 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: cast on a hot new game show called The sixty 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: four thousand Dollar Question. She had written a letter to 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: the producers all about herself, describing what she liked to 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: do for fun and how she planned on using the 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: money if she actually won. Her main goal was to 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: get her and her family out of their current living situation, 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: which was not only unsafe, but also unaffordable even on 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: two salaries, and unfortunately, competing on a game show seemed 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: like the only way to accomplish this. Producer Mert Copland 44 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: saw something in her and brought her in for an interview. 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: The sixty four thousand Dollar Question was a pretty straightforward 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: quiz show where contestants chose a category on any topic 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: from a large board. As they answered questions about that subject, 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: they earned money. With each correct answer, the amounts doubled, 49 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: so the first question was worth sixty four dollars, the 50 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: second one, and so on until the final question was 51 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: worth sixty four thousand, oh and The five hundred and 52 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: twelve dollar question was at checkpoints, and if answered correctly, 53 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: was the least a person could win if they answered 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: any of the subsequent questions incorrectly. Things got progressively difficult 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: as the game went on, and the contestant had the 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: choice to walk away at any time with whatever they'd 57 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: already earned, but getting an answer wrong meant walking away 58 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: with nothing or at the least five hundred and twelve dollars. 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Mert Copland, however, set some pretty strict rules for Joyce. 60 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: She could not answer any questions on topics she knew 61 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: through her education or profession. Copland figured he could earn 62 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: higher ratings by pushing Joyce toward a subject more often 63 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: associated with men at the time, like sports. Little did 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: he know she had an ace up her sleeve. Joyce 65 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: had an idetic memory, often called a photographic memory. She 66 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: chose boxing as her favorite topic, a favorite sport of 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: her husband's, and went home to study. She read every 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: boxing related book and magazine she could get her hands on. 69 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: She also had help from a top boxing writer as 70 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: well as former Olympic champion Edward P. F Egan. With 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: all that expertise under her belt, Joyce could have earned 72 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: a third major in boxing history. When it finally came 73 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: time to compete, she had no problem keeping up with 74 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: the questions. Her real challenge came from the show's sponsor, Revlon. 75 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: The founder Charles Revson demanded she put on makeup before 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: each show. Joyce refused, so Revson made its mission to 77 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: get her booted from the show. He had the producer's 78 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: right questions that were so difficult even the most ardent 79 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: boxing fans would have trouble answering them. They also had 80 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: sportswriters sending questions that nobody would have the answers to. 81 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: Things got so esoteric the host started asking Joyce about 82 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: referees instead of boxers. To their surprise, she got every 83 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: question right. There wasn't anything they could ask her that 84 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: she didn't already know. The final question, the one worth 85 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: sixty four thousand dollars, was comprised of sixteen parts. The 86 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: last episode of her run was so long it ate 87 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: into the next show on the schedule, but the extra 88 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: time was worth it because Joyce won it all, every 89 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: last penny. She was told she'd get her money after 90 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Apparently the network CBS didn't have 91 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: it available. Nobody had expected her to win. Eventually, though, 92 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Joyce got all the money she'd earned, and she spent 93 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: some of it on a new dishwasher for herself and 94 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: her extended family. She also managed to elevate herself out 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: of poverty. Winning the sixty four thousand dollar Question had 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: kicked off a lifelong career in the public eye, with 97 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: a monthly column in Good Housekeeping magazine, several television shows, 98 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: numerous talk show appearances and a few game show runs 99 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: over the years, but she didn't go by Joyce Bauer. 100 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: The woman who had won sixty four thousand dollars on 101 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: a game show and went on to change the face 102 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: of modern psychology was known by her married name instead, 103 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Dr Joyce Brothers. San Juan Island is small, just nineteen 104 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: miles long by seven miles wide, and despite its name, 105 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: it is nowhere near San Juan, Puerto Rico. No. This 106 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: little island sits off the Washington State coastline in the 107 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean. Tourists arrived there by ferry to take in 108 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: the island's wind sweat beaches, iconic lighthouses, and gorgeous rock outcroppings. 109 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Much of the island is farmland, and visitors can see 110 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: large herds of alpacas. There's plenty of hiking and picnic areas. 111 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: The marina is a perfect place to rent a kayak, 112 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: by seafood or take a whale watching tour. There are 113 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: also two camps on the island, the American Camp and 114 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: the English Camp. Tour guides at each tell tourists about 115 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: the conflict between the two countries from eighteen fifty nine 116 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: to eighteen seventy two, but even before then, the island 117 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: and surrounding areas were rather contentious. It all started when Britain, Russia, Spain, 118 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: and the United States all sent explorers to chart the 119 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: coastline of what was once called the Oregon Territory that 120 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: stretched from the southern border of Alaska down to California 121 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: and eastward to the Rocky Mountains. Each country believed that 122 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: they discovered the territory and that it now belonged to them. 123 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: None of the countries asked what the indigenous people living 124 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: there thought of this arrangement, though, and discounted them as 125 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: having no say in the matter. Russia and Spain eventually 126 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: backed off any claim to the land. In eighteen forty six, 127 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: the Treaty of Oregon cut the territory into two parts 128 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: with a distinctive line the US and Canadian border. That 129 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: solved the mainland problem, but it didn't take into account 130 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: the channels and the islands. When farmers from both countries 131 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: began to settle closer to the coastline, Britain made a 132 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: bold move to keep San Juan Island under British rule. 133 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: Controlling the island meant controlling the strait. All the natural 134 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: resources and the local political power. The Britains sent in units. Naturally, 135 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: the Americans noticed. They promptly presented the British with a 136 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: large tax bill. When the bill went unpaid, soldiers planted 137 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: an American flag in the area, but the units stayed. 138 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Both sides brought in more units. Lyman Cutler oversaw the 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: American line and Charles Griffin brought in the British, and 140 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: while they mostly got along in a live and let 141 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: live situation, there was a thief in their midst He 142 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: ventured from the British line over into the American camp 143 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: and stole some tubers. Having gotten away with it, he 144 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: did it several more times before Lyman Cutler shot and 145 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: killed him. Matters after that escalated quickly. It became a 146 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: shouting match. Griffin threatened to have the Americans removed. Cutler 147 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: said that was rich, considering the island was American territory. 148 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Word got back to General William Harney, in charge of 149 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: the U. S Military forces. He dispatched sixty six men 150 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: by Captain George Pickett to settle on the island. Two 151 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: days later, the British sent three warships. Harney sent more 152 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: American troops to the island. Back and forth. The escalation 153 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: went until there were two thousand British sailors and hundreds 154 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: of American troops squaring off. Seeing that they were headed 155 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: for war, leaders from both sides agreed to reduce forces 156 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: by late fall. By March, both agreed to keep a 157 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: camp on opposite ends of the island for twelve more years. 158 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: Neither side was willing to give up their claim to 159 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: the island. Finally, they decided to let a neutral commission decide. 160 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: After both presented their case, the commissioner decided in favor 161 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: of the Americans. After all those years, the conflict was 162 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: officially over and named for one of the casualties that 163 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: started it. That's right, the Pig War was started over 164 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: a pig, one of thirteen hundred units of livestock the 165 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: British used to try and establish claim over the territory. 166 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: In the end, I guess it could be said that 167 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: both sides had been a little pig headed, requiring higher 168 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: powers to step in and stop everyone from going hog wild. 169 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet 170 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts. 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