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Speaker 2: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because Roden.

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Speaker 3: Karen or huh.

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Speaker 2: They say, Oh, he's late, and he's late tonight, yo, y'all,

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Speaker 2: luck y'all even make this blood Ross podcast.

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Speaker 3: Every night.

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Speaker 2: I leave my soul on this mic. And I don't

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Speaker 2: do it because they let me. I do it because

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Speaker 2: I stand here in the name of God, and I

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Speaker 2: know it. God is the one who allows me to

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Speaker 2: do it, who's surrounded me with family and community. When

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Speaker 2: there was no support, when the podcast sold so many

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Speaker 2: records and no one show up and said, Hey, would

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Speaker 2: you like to make another one? I ran around the

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Speaker 2: world to play the same podcast over and over and

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Speaker 2: over and over and over and over again. Because we're

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Speaker 2: the survivors. We're not just the survivors, We're the thrivers. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the Blackout Test podcast. I'm your host, Rod,

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Speaker 2: joined us always by my co host. They lucky we

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Speaker 2: even here. It's Thanksgiving week. It is okay, y'all get take.

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Speaker 3: Two days off.

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Speaker 2: Uh uh nah, it's funny before we did, before we're

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Speaker 2: doing the show. I posted on social media like I

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Speaker 2: was like, man, everybody has Thursday and Friday off. Do

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week. It's not like y'all got

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Speaker 2: a work or nothing like. And uh, you know, I

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Speaker 2: Lauren Hill looking for excuse not to do a show,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, that's not what I'm asking. I

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Speaker 2: But it was more like a do y'all need time?

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Speaker 2: for me, I remember why I listened to podcasts and

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Speaker 2: when I had a jobby job. You know, if I

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Speaker 2: But then people was hitting me up, you know, like

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Speaker 2: that's not it. But people was like, uh travel.

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Speaker 2: You must be binging on ship during the weekend, right,

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, so we're doing the show. It's not

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Speaker 2: Just thought it would be funny start with that lng

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Speaker 2: Hill thing. Don't forget black Friday self. Uh, you can

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Speaker 2: go to the blackoutips dot com slash black slash Black Friday,

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Speaker 2: The Black Guy Who toos dot com slash Black Friday.

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Speaker 2: Also, of course, holiday card addresses email us the Blackout

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Speaker 2: So you're being warned, don't forget the official weapon of

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Speaker 2: It's like message board culture, this this director's filmmate this

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Speaker 2: It's not actually this film should win because it's good.

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Speaker 4: Had the financial ability to take the hit. I remembered

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Speaker 3: That's fucked up, So don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is, I think average.

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Speaker 2: It won the box office, but it was not reported

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Speaker 2: They didn't call the Marvel movie a failure. They didn't

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Speaker 2: They just were like, lowest opening ever period.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean that in that the people that

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Speaker 2: worked on that film are not hardworking. I mean it

438
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: was a lot of organic people saying, Barbenheimer, let's combine

439
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Speaker 2: the movies.

440
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Speaker 3: That was not an idea the studio came up with.

441
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: It's an idea that people thought would be funny on

442
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: social media, and then the studio was able to capitalize

443
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 2: on everyone's hard work promoting the film for them.

444
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Speaker 4: And they actually started showing them back to back and

445
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Speaker 4: combo in them this.

446
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Speaker 3: Year, Yes, and.

447
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Speaker 2: Merge everything because it's from the same company. But other

448
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: than those two films, movies have not been banging at

449
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: the box office like that. So now people try to

450
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: turn it into a profit argument. So because they don't,

451
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Speaker 2: because no one's having the box office discussion, and earnest

452
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Speaker 2: in a way, I feel it in the way that

453
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm having it right now. Most people are having a

454
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Speaker 2: didn't make money or not discussion, which is a completely

455
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Speaker 2: different discussion. But let's talk about making money. You know

456
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Speaker 2: what's making money the most? This year horror you know,

457
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: why cheap the make? Yeah, cheap the make.

458
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Speaker 4: Like it's not those horror but them horror movies they've

459
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 4: been coming at y'all. They've been like sometimes doubling and

460
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: tripling what the original cost of the budget was.

461
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Speaker 2: But if you look at the box office for those movies,

462
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: they're not billion dollar movie. No, No one's going to

463
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: the movies like they were. And even with those horror movies,

464
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: they're coming, whether they get good reviews or back. They're

465
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Speaker 2: coming to streaming services a month to two months.

466
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Speaker 4: Like yeah, sometimes ninety days, sixty.

467
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Speaker 2: Five nights that Freddy's came out the same day in

468
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Speaker 2: movies and on the on on.

469
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Speaker 4: People streaming a lot of them started doing that too.

470
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Speaker 4: So for a lot of people that go, why am

471
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Speaker 4: I going to the movies if I can do it

472
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Speaker 4: for a lot of people because they come out so

473
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Speaker 4: quick for a lot of people that if they don't

474
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Speaker 4: catch it like that first second opening weekend, they'll just

475
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Speaker 4: wait for it to come on streaming.

476
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Speaker 2: And it's like I said, it's not that no one

477
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: can have. People are having you're able to make money.

478
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Speaker 2: It's just kind of catching lightning in a bottle. Now,

479
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Speaker 2: as opposed to just like there's a formula, and the

480
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Speaker 2: formula was normal.

481
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Speaker 3: It used to be people were.

482
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Speaker 2: Just going to the movies. And I don't think. I

483
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Speaker 2: don't feel like when I'm saying, is that deep. I

484
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: just don't think people have caught up to that part

485
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Speaker 2: of this discussion, because to me, there's nothing to discuss

486
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Speaker 2: if we're not gonna talk about how the box office is.

487
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: Down period a year over year.

488
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Speaker 2: Yes, like even if you have a billion dollar movie

489
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Speaker 2: right now, that movie makes way more than that four

490
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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because just more.

492
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Speaker 3: People were going.

493
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Speaker 2: All my friends who go to the movies are like,

494
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Speaker 2: it's either way less crowded than it used to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Me and Karen have noted on our sport Movie review

497
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Speaker 2: podcast they took away movies times like we used to.

498
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: We used to have a routine of every Thursday, we

499
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Speaker 2: go to a movie around four thirty five o'clock because

500
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Speaker 2: that's when the new movies would drop. Over the last

501
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Speaker 2: like two years, it used to be seven, like, no

502
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: matter what, you had to wait till seven in the earth,

503
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: which is stupid. But the pandemic sped things up. Boom,

504
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: Hey you can go see a movie at four thirty

505
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: now say, oh, that's awesome those times in our local theater.

506
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: And I've had other people tell me about theirs too.

507
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: A lot of those times are going away, right, And

508
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: so what they're making you do now is either you

509
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: go to a movie at three, which is matinee time,

510
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: you get the matinee deal, or you go to a

511
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Speaker 2: movie at six or seven where they can charge you

512
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Speaker 2: at full price. They don't want you at those in

513
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Speaker 2: between showings where like four thirty was a late matinee,

514
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: so like you could still basically, you know, get off

515
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: work a few minutes early, head up to the theater.

516
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: You're saving money and you're getting to see the movie.

517
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: But the more we go to movies and stuff less

518
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: crowded that time was less crowded opening day is it's

519
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: the box offices. Aren't the same things that are success

520
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: now are not the successes that they used to be.

521
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Speaker 2: The summer of back to back to back to back

522
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Speaker 2: billion dollar movies, we haven't had one of those in

523
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Speaker 2: a minute.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and also not only and let me know if

525
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: this is a true statement, but I think I'm saying

526
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Speaker 4: this right, not only for movies, but when you look

527
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 4: at the music, industry. You know how they used to

528
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: have like gold and platinum and all that stuff. Even

529
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: what qualifies for those numbers over the years have changed.

530
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Speaker 2: Well, music is so different than me. I wouldn't even

531
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: put it in this discussion.

532
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.

533
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: One, you don't have to leave your house for music,

534
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: that's true, and I know, like attendance to concerts is

535
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: all over the place. But yeah, there's too many variables

536
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: with music, music streams, you don't. You know, they've changed

537
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: what streams numbers count as what. So it's just to me,

538
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even I don't even want to get into that,

539
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: just because it's such a different bag to me.

540
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Speaker 4: Oh yes, I wanted to be sure, That's why I asked.

541
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: But the box office has actually we have you buy

542
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: a ticket or you don't agreed and agreed, you know,

543
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: even like even something like Barbie, which made one point

544
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: for two billion dollars, I feel like a few years

545
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: ago that's bigger.

546
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it were closer to two.

547
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of people that just don't go

548
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: to their like I'm not going to a movie.

549
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: I don't care.

550
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, period, They're like I'm not going I wait for it.

551
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 4: On streaming or get a half. I'm gonna get it.

552
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: You have a lot of people that movies are just

553
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 4: the inconvenience for them, and for a lot of people,

554
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: they're paying a lot of money for these streaming services

555
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: in which they were before, but they were still willing

556
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 4: to go to the.

557
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: Movie they weren't before.

558
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 2: Streaming costs more now and there's more of them, so

559
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: it's adding to your point. I'm not taking away. They're

560
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: actually paying more to stream. We're paying more to stream

561
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: shit now than we were three four years ago. Yes,

562
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: and it costs more to go to the movies now

563
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: than it did three four years ago. Someone brought up

564
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: this point on like Twitter, and it's such a valid point.

565
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: If you go to the movies, that's the for that month.

566
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Just one trip to the movies for a lot of people.

567
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: People when you get your popcorn or whatever the hell

568
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: you paid for three or four or five streaming services

569
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: that day, like that one ticket, Yeah, because with the

570
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: with the whatever on it.

571
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, could depend on where you are in the country.

572
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: The tickets are like twenty five thirty dollars, depend on

573
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Speaker 4: where you're a particular if that like nom that name

574
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: and then don't fuck around to get like a family

575
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: of three and four of y'all going you fuck around

576
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: and spend seventy five over one hundred dollars sometimes just

577
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: on the one night.

578
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is, I feel like that was

579
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: the discussion to be had. But everyone was just waiting

580
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: on this Marvel movie, the Marvels movies to not make

581
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: that much money, and then they want to have just

582
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: a Marvel discussion.

583
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: Right, And I mean, I don't blame them.

584
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: Everything has led them to this moment, Like every article

585
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: for the last three or four months been And this

586
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: is the other thing. It wasn't an unexpected low box office.

587
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: This was people for months saying, hey, they've moved this

588
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: film three four times. There's already a hate campaign with

589
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: the fact that it's starting a woman directed by a

590
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: black woman. Uh, starring three women directed by a black woman. Already,

591
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: you've been people have been hating the fact that Brie

592
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Larson got the job and made up like the just

593
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: fucked up rumors about her that weren't true. No one's

594
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: ever confirmed.

595
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: Right, she don't get on with the coworkers, all types of.

596
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: You go to YouTube and there's some fucking YouTube guy

597
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: making the YouTube phase with a like they've made a

598
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: lot of money off of people clicking on those videos.

599
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: So there's already like a hate campaign that's been happening

600
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Speaker 2: for a minute.

601
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Speaker 3: And here's the thing.

602
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: Even some of the biggest like haters like the Marvels

603
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: ruining everything haters the one and those people often are

604
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: the ones who still go see everything right, they count

605
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: themselves everyone up.

606
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: I was watching it.

607
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: I was clocking it to see, like, what are they

608
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: gonna say about the movie? They liked the movie, they

609
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: like the Marvels, and not talking about us saying the

610
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: movie was bad. We're talking about the box office, which

611
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: is something that we've been gearing.

612
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: Up to talk about four years.

613
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Speaker 2: And I think people instead of having a reckoning on

614
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Speaker 2: like what does this mean for entertainment?

615
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: Right, because it's not Marvel, it's not Disney.

616
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: It's all all movies should be thinking to themselves what

617
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: are we gonna do with budgets versus expectations?

618
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: Right?

619
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: Every studio should be thinking about this because while you're

620
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: talking about Marvel, Fasten also didn't make the money it

621
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: would have made years ago. Nope, you know, like that

622
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff just it's like everyone looked at

623
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: it like a one off, but that that Fast X movie,

624
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: it didn't make a billion. All the other movies before

625
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: this was was making like.

626
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: It's the lowest one of the recent ones.

627
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: Of the recent ones.

628
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, and I'm not saying these are good movies,

629
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: but they used to be tent whole things that everyone

630
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: knew were bad, and you just go see it even

631
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: though it's bad. So you could be like we all

632
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: saw it all family, ha, we make the same jokes

633
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: people like I don't can make that joke at home

634
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: and wait till that shit comes out on whatever streaming

635
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: service payamount plus or some shit, right.

636
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: Because like you say, if if I'm paying fifty dollars

637
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: a month in streaming service, it's gonna be hard to

638
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: convince some people to turn around and spend fifty dollars

639
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: to go to the movie every other weekend or every

640
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: time something drops.

641
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: Right, So it's it's you know, Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning

642
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: Part one, five hundred and sixty seven million. Yeah, I

643
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: didn't make a dog that's not good for Mission Impossible.

644
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: That's that's that's bad, and that's Tom fucking cruise.

645
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Mister, keep the box office open like a couple of

646
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: years ago he dropped top Gun and that shit was

647
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: made more money than this, Yes it did. And once

648
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: we didn't get the lowest you know what, the lowest

649
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: box office for mission. We didn't get that that shit

650
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: because no one has an agenda against big Mission impossible.

651
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: The way they do it against big time Cruise.

652
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's trying to take him down, even though

653
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: you know, they may have some reasons to take him down,

654
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: but no one seems to be trying to take him

655
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: down in that way. And so it's just once again,

656
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: I just you know, hear the blackout tips. We like

657
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Speaker 2: to go one step further than a little deeper under

658
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: the service level than most people that cover the same

659
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: shit we cover. And I've been it's been interesting to

660
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: see how little people can even grasp what I'm saying,

661
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: because I'm not talking about successes with budgets or successes

662
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: on making your money back over the course of it.

663
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm talking about, just talking about tone.

664
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: I create media, I write professionally. I know about tone.

665
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: You can make something sound as good or bad as

666
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: you want it to sound. Yes, you can, for the

667
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: most part. You know and just ask any you know,

668
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: follow any.

669
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Speaker 3: Movie critic.

670
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: Generally, movie critics skew towards want liking independent films, slop

671
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: small budget films, because most movie critics want to be

672
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: directors in their own right. They want to make movies themselves.

673
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: And what kind of movies would they make. They're not

674
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: gonna be able to make a Marvel movie, but maybe

675
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: they can make a short, short term twelve, you know,

676
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: maybe they can make something the horror movie, something that

677
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: doesn't need that much money, you know, And I think

678
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: so they skew towards always advocating for those films, especially

679
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: once critics bought into the it's all about box office

680
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: and we need to talk about money before we talk

681
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: about anything else. And so once they bought into it,

682
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: of course they want to advocate for the little guys.

683
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: So their anti big budget films, anti summer movies, the

684
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: thing that keeps the fucking movie theater.

685
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: Oh by the way, right, because when for them, you

686
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to make your shit.

687
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: But they they're anti that, but they're pro the other shit, right,

688
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: and so they really want to like they The tone

689
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 2: of those reviews for those movies often very almost gratuitously gratuitively, yeah,

690
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: gratuitously positive.

691
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 4: Like it's very like, even if the movie is bad,

692
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: a lot of times people will come out and just

693
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: say it's the best thing, and yeah.

694
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: I know you won't see this because they know most

695
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: people won't, but you need to see this. It's like

696
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: we're pulling for our faves quote unquote, and we know

697
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: that Marvel and Fast and Mission Impossible. It's all those

698
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: are institutions. They're not going anywhere. If they have a flop,

699
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: they'll be Okay, if I tell you it's shitty, you're

700
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: still gonna see it. So that's just less invested in that.

701
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: But I really think people need to consider the future

702
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: of movies in general because what people are doing is

703
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: turned into a big versus small but it's not really

704
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: big versus small when it comes to the micro decisions

705
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: that people make with their wallets.

706
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: You don't leave the house because a critic told you

707
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: to leave the house, dude.

708
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: People leave the house because they want to be entertained.

709
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: What am I going to be entertained by? And the

710
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: studios now that they've basically like thrown everything into streaming unsuccessfully, right.

711
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: And right, then this is something that we talked about before,

712
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: and I've kind of always said this. I remember when

713
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: it used to be Netflix, when Netflix was like the

714
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: only game in town. I was like, great. When they

715
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: started branching off, I think it started with like Paramount

716
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: or somebody, I was like, I don't know what the

717
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: fuck is a paramount? Like when I hit play, I

718
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: just hit play. Why not? It's like, now you're forcing

719
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: me to do homework to figure out what was the

720
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: studio linked to it? And you y'all know how sometimes

721
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: nistios be like this with this, with this, sometimes they

722
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: group up and make shit. I'm like, this is gonna

723
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 4: be a hot fucking mess.

724
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: Fans don't know movies by studio. No critics know that.

725
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: Nerds super nerds of movies know that your average film

726
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: goer does not know this is a Sony film. So

727
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: let me buy the Sony streaming so I can watch

728
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: the Sony this like most people don't not to mention

729
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: with streaming things, flux being bought, being sold, being taken off, right,

730
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: So it's not the same for folks. But once again,

731
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: I just want people to take a breath, forget about

732
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: the marvel of it all, forget about Nia the Costa

733
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: being a black woman. Forget about the anti woman bullshit

734
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: of it all. Think about the box office, the movie

735
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: theater experience, the home experience, and it I don't think

736
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: it's coming back. And I might be wrong. I might

737
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: be wrong, but I truly think this pandemic has rushed

738
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: some things for some things, change some things, and some

739
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: of those things people keep waiting to balance out and

740
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: be like it'll be like the old days, and it's like,

741
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be like the old days

742
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 2: for certain shit, and I think movies is one of.

743
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: Them, and either studios will have to start.

744
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: And also like studios were, the glut of the movies

745
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: was getting ridiculous. Like one of the things I liked

746
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: about the Marvels is that it addressed one of the

747
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: biggest concerns I have about the Marvel films, which is

748
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: they were getting too long.

749
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 4: Yes, everything does not need to be three hours.

750
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: It used to be a time when like certain spinoff guys,

751
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: like an ant Man film will come in at hour

752
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: and forty minutes, and that was fine because it was

753
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: like he's ant Man. No one's looking for two and

754
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: a half hours out of that story, but you know, it.

755
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: Started getting big. It started.

756
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Everything was big, everything was long, everything was connected. And

757
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: the Marvels was the first one that treated you like, hey,

758
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: either you saw that other shit that you didn't right,

759
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get you out of here in our

760
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: forty minutes, let's go.

761
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: And I enjoyed that about it.

762
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: But I think you're gonna have to start looking at

763
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: the budgets to these things, and its studios are gonna

764
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: have too, and then adjusting also the expectations of what

765
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna call success, because I just don't I don't

766
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: think that we're out of every movie's making seven hundred

767
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: to a billion dollars anymore. I think you need to

768
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: start looking at and keep in mind some of these

769
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: other films in the Marvel universe didn't make that much money.

770
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: We just don't talk about it back then, but anymore

771
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: because we weren't. People weren't hating it back then, right.

772
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: So it's like if an ant Man didn't make as

773
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: much as like a Captain America Civil War, no one

774
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: like knocked ant Man for that. We were like that

775
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: movie shouldn't have made that much. But at some point

776
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: it just became like if every if this movie ain't

777
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: making this before, you know, it's because we're people want

778
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: are desirous to see that.

779
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 4: And also something you bought up too. It's like very

780
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 4: because now everything opened back up, so you have a

781
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: lot a lot of people. They're taking their money that

782
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: they would have spent on the movie theaters and they're

783
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 4: putting it other places now that makes it difference, and

784
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: like you said, they invested in the streaming services that

785
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 4: make a difference. They're going, you know, out the East,

786
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: spend a time of fan of friends going vacation, and

787
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: like like the money, yeah, people may have budgeted for that,

788
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: it's going to other places. And so I think that

789
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 4: that is a huge you know, like like you say,

790
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 4: a determining factor, determining drive into whether people go to

791
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: the movies now. And also the Mussies aren't must sies

792
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 4: anymore because like you said, there are movies that would

793
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: have came out years ago that literally would have been

794
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: a muss See. It's like, I don't know what it

795
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: has to be to be a musk See. Now that

796
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: expectation the mus see everybody's gonna be talking about it

797
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 4: has changed and I meet, this is me, my my hypothesis.

798
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: I think with less people going into the office, that

799
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: makes a big difference too, because a lot of these

800
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: movies would be water cooler talk. A lot of you

801
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: would go and you would talk to your co workers,

802
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: you would talk to you, you know, the people in

803
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: the office and all that stuff. But when you have people,

804
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: I can't do got no mold. The only communication you

805
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: might have some teams, they go with the Well.

806
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: Another thing for the movies though, is for it to

807
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: be a communal experience, it needs to be an online promotion.

808
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: Now that's new, yes, because one of the other things

809
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: with streaming is that people aren't watching commercials.

810
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: You know.

811
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean people I saw that said they didn't see

812
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: it like doing they didn't promote the Marvels. I didn't

813
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: even know it's coming out. And I'm not saying they're wrong.

814
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of commercials for it, a whole lot. Yes,

815
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: But guess what, I actually still have cable. Yeah, I

816
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: put it on Cartoon Network. That's one of the heaviest,

817
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: like superhero motions coming.

818
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: Out everywhere they put the NBA. That ship was posted everywhere. Yeah,

819
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: like you say, we are, we are a few handful

820
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: of people that actually do cable. So if you like

821
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 4: do like the YouTube and do like, well, I don't

822
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 4: do cable, No, you probably did not see promotion for it.

823
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 3: Right, And so I think that's a big, big one

824
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: for me is just not having that is huge because the.

825
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: Communal experience online is almost impossible to truly like, how

826
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: do you even create that as a studio.

827
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: A lot of that's.

828
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: Organic word of mouth, height people kind of taking on

829
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: their own thing, And so that's what I think is interesting.

830
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: The other thing is, and this has just become a

831
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: Marvel thing people selective memory. They just literally do not

832
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: count the other films that did not do well at

833
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: the box office or did not do what was good

834
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: at the box office for Marvel.

835
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: They don't count those as flops.

836
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: Right, Like there's Business Insider has a list of the

837
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: third all thirty three Marvel Cinematic Universe movies, ranked by

838
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: how much money they made it the.

839
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: Global box office.

840
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: Okay, obviously the Marvels being the newest, is at the bottom,

841
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: you know, and it had the lowest opening right after

842
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: that thirty one, So thirty three is The Hulk with

843
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: Edward Norton. Right after that thirty one is Captain America,

844
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: the First Avenger.

845
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, a lot of people underestimated how that movie

846
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 4: did not make that much money. That movie did not

847
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: make a lot of money at all, and that was

848
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: like to be very very beginning, and a lot of

849
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: people did not go see that, go see that particular

850
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: one until after the fact. It was very important on

851
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: the world that they were building. But for a lot

852
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: of people, they either never watched that one or either

853
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: they didn't go like me and you like me, and.

854
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: The point isn't what the point is. The point for.

855
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: Me is we don't feel like man that was that

856
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: one didn't perform well because it's just been long enough ago.

857
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: And at the time, it's like we're counting towards the success.

858
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: We're not counting the the ones that didn't work back then.

859
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: We're not counting thor which is number twenty seven on

860
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: this list. You know, uh, ant Man is number twenty five,

861
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: But no one considered that a failure. No, Like people

862
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, good friend Man like that, that's about

863
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: what that movie should make.

864
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: Iron Man, the film that started off twenty fourth, you know, like.

865
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: Like as much as that movie stands up with any

866
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: movie superhero genre and and so it's just interesting, you know,

867
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: to see this thor The Dark World is twenty first

868
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: on this list. That's not lower right, right, that's like

869
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: all counts. Many people think that's not even a good movie.

870
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: The Winner Soldiers one of my favorite movies of all

871
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: time nineteen What.

872
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: The Winter Soldier? Ah? I can watch that shit over

873
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: and over again.

874
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yep.

875
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: And the thing that I think is really interesting is

876
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: if you want to look at it as like a

877
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: wellis because you know the current years is when they

878
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: start to fall off. That's also selective memory. You're not

879
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: counting the wins, right, such as the number third three

880
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: movie twenty twenty one Spider Man No Way Home. That

881
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: shit made almost two billion dollars. No one's doing the

882
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: Man Marvel they had a hit with that. We're going, yeah,

883
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: but what about the eternals? That's how it works now

884
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: our minds have shifted, right, But that the Marvel phenomenon

885
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 2: is incredibly interesting to think about from that point of view.

886
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: But once again, I'm not trying to do don't. I

887
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: don't think the box office necessarily make sense to judge

888
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: whether the movies are good or bad. As y'all can

889
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: see movies are all over the place, some of them

890
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: being movies I consider to have been bad at the time,

891
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: in the middle of the pack, some of the movies

892
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: I consider to be good near the bottom correct. And

893
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: I really don't think box office is equal to critical

894
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: acclaim necessarily.

895
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: No, it's not. It's not, you know. And it's funny

896
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: when you talk about how throw these numbers because sometimes

897
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: some of the not all the time, but sometimes some

898
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: of the lowest making movies at the box office be winning,

899
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: like the Autumn Oscars and all that shit. So okay,

900
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: so it didn't matter, It don't matter because of this,

901
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: but yet so so so that's why I say it

902
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: don't make fucking sense.

903
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so people hate age are all trying. I don't.

904
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: It's the fifth highest grossing one they've ever done.

905
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: I enjoyed that one.

906
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's really not about that.

907
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is that it

908
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter to us. It doesn't correlate, That's what

909
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It doesn't correlate with how much people loved it.

910
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: The ratings of the movie and the money that it

911
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: make isn't necessarily the same. But I'll tell you what,

912
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: more of the ones that bombed.

913
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: Quote unquote are closer to the this time.

914
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, So like that's more of

915
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: a wait a minute, the box office was looking bad.

916
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: So your twenty twenty three movie, your twenty twenty one movie,

917
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: like Shaun Che's twenty twenty one Eternals is twenty twenty one,

918
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: Black Widows twenty twenty one. All three of those are

919
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty nine, and thirtieth for the near the

920
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 2: bottom basically.

921
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: Right, because you're in a bit a fucking pandemic.

922
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 3: Right. It's just it's interesting, is what I'm saying.

923
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: And so you know, I wanted to do this here because,

924
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: like I said, even when I'm talking to people that

925
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: I don't think are trying to like, I don't know,

926
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: like stun on me or something like that, it was

927
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: just and it wasn't just like chizy. It was it

928
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: was people on Facebook and everything. And I'm not gonna

929
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: ever insult somebody or like if i feel like I'm

930
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: not getting anywhere and I'm not being heard and we're

931
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: not hearing each other, I don't want to keep it

932
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: going because like there's never gonna be a point where

933
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: that person. Once people get entrenched, they're never gonna stop

934
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: and go, oh, you were making a different point. It's

935
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: just gonna be, you know, to disagree and you just

936
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: have to walk away like cool, no hard feelings. But

937
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: my point was never what's making his money back? That's

938
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: that's never mind. I don't care about that. Me and

939
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: the and the articles that report box office in the headline,

940
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: they don't say that.

941
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

942
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: In the headline, they don't say made his money back,

943
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: didn't make his money back, bomb flop. Those weren't the

944
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: one I didn't share that that there was the same source.

945
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: I think IGN.

946
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: In both cases, IGN's first one is the marvels of

947
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: the lowest grossing, lowest opening weekend, right, lowest opening weekend,

948
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: not even grossing because that takes into account budget, just

949
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: lowest opening weekend. Hunger Games conquers the box office conger

950
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: bames also lowest ever opening weekend for a Hunger Games film.

951
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: It just felt like an interesting shift of Tom and

952
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: I have.

953
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: A question, who is number one? Number two? But I

954
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: Panthers and Avengers?

955
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh you want so? You want to know the rest

956
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: of the list. Hold on I'm sorry because it wasn't

957
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: the point of what I was doing. But hold on,

958
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: I just want to know it was at the top

959
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: of It's.

960
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 3: Gotta be Endgame or something.

961
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, End Game is number one with almost three

962
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: billion dollars in twenty nineteen before the pandemic. Yes, nothing

963
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: like this is this is what I'm saying. Dog, we're

964
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: saying Barbie was the ship. Barbie made one point something billion.

965
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: That's very good. Nothing is hitting the highs that the

966
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: highs were three years ago, and everyone fucking missed it.

967
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: Everyone's just paling on like which films they don't like

968
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: or do, like like it's a sports game, like it's

969
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: the stock market.

970
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: It's not. I thought we were talking.

971
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: If we're gonna talk about, let's talk about the thing

972
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: affecting everybody. Tom Cruise not getting Tom Cruise returns like

973
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: he used to. That's fucking wild. That's a little bit

974
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: scary for that industry. And of course, so I keep going.

975
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: Infinity War was number two, Okay, end Game. The Infinity

976
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 2: War No Way Home is number three. That's a twenty

977
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: twenty one movie that made almost two billion. The Avengers

978
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: from twenty twelve is number four. Avengers. Age of Ultron

979
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: is number five, Black Panthers number six.

980
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 3: Okay, you want me to keep going good, that's good. Okay,

981
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: So yeah.

982
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: I just want to know who was in the top

983
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: ones because you had pointed them out, that's all.

984
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem, no problem.

985
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: And then the other thing I kind of wanted to

986
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: talk about, And this is like something we talked about

987
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: in the car earlier. And once again, this is a

988
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: meandering kind of conversation. If you don't like it, I

989
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: feel you. But it's Thanksgiving, be thankful, we're here, we

990
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 2: showed up. I'm just gonna let the auto the ads

991
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: auto fill in. I'm gonna let the AI do the

992
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: work on not even playing music, just just the conversation.

993
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: Y'all got no segments. So the other thing I was

994
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: thinking about, and this is kind of a thing I

995
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: haven't fully fleshed out of my brain yet, and it's

996
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: a work in progress if I'll ever get fully to

997
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: where I want to go with it. Okay, But I

998
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: was thinking about how with this movie thing and so

999
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: many other things people, and especially with the return to

1000
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: work thing, and how office space is sitting empty, and

1001
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: of course we all have the same idea.

1002
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: I don't think. I'm I don't think there's a novel idea.

1003
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure every single human being that pays rent

1004
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: or mortgage has had the same idea I'm about to say,

1005
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 2: which is, why the fuck ain't we turning the office

1006
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 2: space into just motherfucking like living places for people to live?

1007
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1008
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's reasons why not that. I because

1009
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 2: it's not my job to figure it out. But it's

1010
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: such an easy idea. There's gotta be some shit the

1011
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: people being like, you know, you got to rezone the

1012
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: fucking residential, you got to pass this law. You can't

1013
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: get this up to code. I don't know the infrastructure

1014
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: money it would take, but even a Biden administration that

1015
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: slowed this out there, So.

1016
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: It ain't that like it's palpable.

1017
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: It could happen because if the federal government is like,

1018
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: we'll give you the money to turn this shit in

1019
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: the housing, that means motherfuckers are thinking about it.

1020
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: Housing costs to god damn much right now.

1021
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: Come out.

1022
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: The rent is too high, So let's think about this.

1023
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: And it's micro versus macro, and once again pandemic sped

1024
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: things up. That's all pandemic sped things up. I don't

1025
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: think we're getting back here, but the return to work thing,

1026
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: there is some value to people returning the physical work together.

1027
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think we're ever gonna get back there.

1028
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: Hard to convince.

1029
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: Some people never could go home so they had to

1030
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: be there, agreed, But some of the like economic al

1031
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 2: of society are because we ain't going to physical work

1032
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: no more. And on a micro level, of course, I

1033
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: get it. I don't want to be in an office

1034
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: with people. I'm an introvert for real, for real, not

1035
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: the like. Once I got home from the pandemic, I

1036
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: became in no nigga. I never liked having to be

1037
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: around people all the time. I'm not anti social, but

1038
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: it was like, if I could do this from home,

1039
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: I'd be just as fly right. But I think everyone's

1040
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: refusal and pretty much animosity at the idea of mostly

1041
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: white collar jobs. Let's be frank. Let's be frank. It's

1042
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: a privileged thing. It is for the most part. You

1043
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: can't bag groceries from home, you know, you can't make

1044
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: McDonald's from home.

1045
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 3: Like, it's a certain type.

1046
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: Of job that we're privileged to have to be able

1047
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: to do this shit with a computer and some internet

1048
00:53:55,120 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 2: and a place to live, like it's a thing, and

1049
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: it's not all good. For the record, many people are

1050
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: working more now than they were working when they were

1051
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: actually drove to work.

1052
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: Yes, they are.

1053
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: People not taking their lunch breaks as much.

1054
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: People ain't leaving the house, people ain't getting as much

1055
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: exercise obviously, people ain'tus so much PTO time. Yeah, and

1056
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: of course you don't have the same like community. Uh

1057
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: you know how you're gonna have a work husband on

1058
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: zoom like funk out of here.

1059
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: In teens.

1060
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no point to that shit.

1061
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: Like I mean, maybe some of y'all doing it, but

1062
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: at that point just cheat, what the fuck you work

1063
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: it to us? So I think, and I think no

1064
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: one wants to correlate it because it's such a hostile

1065
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: thing for people to hear someone say like they associated

1066
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: with like bosses and dickheads.

1067
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: If you're like, I don't know, maybe people should kind

1068
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 3: of go back to the office. Sometimes it's like.

1069
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: You motherfucking but you a slave driver. I'm like, no,

1070
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: that's it's not about that to me. But I cannot

1071
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: help but can to the loneliness epidemic that we are experiencing,

1072
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: which is very fucking real.

1073
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 4: It is real. They keep coming out with these studies.

1074
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: Scientists have been studying. They've done surveys of thousands of people,

1075
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: and they are like, hey, y'all, A y'all, A y'all.

1076
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: Loneliness is up. Suicide, racist, up, drug uses up a

1077
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: lot of times, the drug and alcohol abuse use and

1078
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: shit like this. It's called that with people being lonely

1079
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: and wanting to feel that.

1080
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: Whole people are lonelier than ever.

1081
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: Yes, the who the World Health Organization. So you've had

1082
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: the American Surgeon General to address it, but I know

1083
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: many people don't trust America no more or whatever.

1084
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: That's farm the World Health Organization. Y'all fuck with them.

1085
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 2: They declare loanliness a global issue, and they've initiated an

1086
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: international commission to address the issue. They reportedly launched the

1087
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: Commission and Social Connection to address loneliness as a pressing

1088
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: health threat, promote social connection as a priority, and accelerate

1089
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: the scaling up of solutions in countries of all incomes.

1090
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: Keep in mind the who were the people that were

1091
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: the most like, nobody go outside this COVID out there,

1092
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: even when other governments are like, who, we cannot maintain

1093
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: what you want.

1094
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: Us to do forever.

1095
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: We have to let people do some things. And they

1096
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 2: were like, I don't think so people die.

1097
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 3: And now three.

1098
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: Years later, who is like if y'all don't get the

1099
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: fuck out the house and touch grass, this is an

1100
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: epidemic of all nations, not America, not poor nations, not

1101
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 2: rich nation, everybody down bad. COVID fucked us up.

1102
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 3: We don't.

1103
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: We don't be in community anymore. In that way, an

1104
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: online community is not the same. Social media is not

1105
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 2: the same. It's not securing the loneliness.

1106
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: You know.

1107
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 2: The people who measured this for a living, Fuck your

1108
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: anecdotal feelings, Fuck your like you ain't making me go

1109
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: back to work or whatever it is.

1110
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: Fuck that shit for a second. Let's just talk fact, right.

1111
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: The people whose job it is to calculate loneliness and

1112
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: epidemics are like, we got one us certain general doctor

1113
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: Vivek Murphy and African Union Youth Envoid Chido em Peppa

1114
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: I think it's m Pepper are leading a group of

1115
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: eleven leading policymakers, thought leaders, and advocates to address loneliness globally.

1116
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: And there's just a bunch of quotes about how they're

1117
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: trying to work on it, but yeah, you know, of course,

1118
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: our certain general said, this shit is the same as

1119
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: smoking fifteen cigarettes every day, which surpasses the impact of

1120
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: obesity and neglecting physical health. Like, goddamn loneliness is literally

1121
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: fucking killing us. And I don't know how you fix that.

1122
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: Because I agree with people in that you should have

1123
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: a freedom to work from home if possible. I think

1124
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: people that want to go to the office got an

1125
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: extremely bad rap over on social media they did, which

1126
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: was totally uncalled for because those people were basically expressing that, hey,

1127
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm lonely and one of the places I get social

1128
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: interaction is at work, and everybody's like, well, gool for you.

1129
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: Fuck you did, nigga, Ain't you't gonna make me.

1130
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 4: Go to work.

1131
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm not calling to make you go to work. I'm

1132
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: expressing that I have my feelings over here. They might

1133
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: not job with your feelings, but it's okay for me

1134
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: to have my feelings that are different than yours.

1135
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: Agree and yeah, and if they want to.

1136
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: Go to work and get that interaction, they can go

1137
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: get work that get that interaction. No one's making you

1138
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: leave the house, but people were acting like those people

1139
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: were insane to want to be around other people. And

1140
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: it's like we live in such denial of the things

1141
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: that we need.

1142
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: A thing that was on my.

1143
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: Heart today was, uh, that apology that you think you

1144
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: don't need, you need it and that's all right, And

1145
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: that apology that you think you don't gotta.

1146
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: Give, you should give it, give it a try, because that's.

1147
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: One of those things we be in denial about. But

1148
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: we but people fucking need that shit. But as long

1149
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: as we pretend that we don't, then we then we

1150
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: ice cold. I'm a different type of human. They never

1151
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: made a human like this that don't need emotional resolution

1152
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: or nothing.

1153
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 4: I got it.

1154
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: All by myself.

1155
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: That shit still impacts you.

1156
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: Be the biggest motherfuckers to cry as soon as you

1157
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: be like you know what, I'm sorry, your feelings and

1158
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: it all comes flowing out because we human is just

1159
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: like a machine anyway, you know, it's processing process out.

1160
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: Nobody's shit is that fucking different from the next person, right?

1161
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: Everybody shit kind of you whatever the brain and emotional

1162
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: shit is, it mostly need the same shit. You know,

1163
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: if everything's in chemical balance and everything most of us

1164
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: as cliche as it is, kind of won't need.

1165
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: The same shit.

1166
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: It may look a little different for everybody, but you know,

1167
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: those higher those the hierarchy of needs mass loads. It's

1168
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: all the same shit, you know, And I wonder so,

1169
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: like I said, we're lonelier than ever, right, we have much.

1170
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: We have less community than ever when it comes to

1171
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: physical community. And I think, especially during the pandemic, we

1172
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: became so polarized in the places we find physical community

1173
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: that it wasn't like before. So before, if you went

1174
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: to like church for community, no matter how much I

1175
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: am not a huge fan of some of the regressive

1176
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: things about church, right, but if you went for community

1177
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: many times, that was your social interaction, that was your

1178
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: That's why I see my neighbors, this is why I

1179
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: praise and worship and cry and get it all out

1180
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: my system. And someone gives me a speech about doing right,

1181
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: and it happens in my face. People see me, right,

1182
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: Someone shakes my hand on the way out the door,

1183
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: someone hugs me, you know, USh your hands me a

1184
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: tissue like, it's a human interaction.

1185
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: That happens in real life, right, And.

1186
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, during the pandemic, a lot of those spaces became

1187
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: so politicized in a way of like we are here

1188
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: together in spite of or two spiked the people who

1189
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: would not do this. So now it's become a place

1190
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: of anti vaccine rhetoric, anti government rhetoric, anti liberal rhetoric.

1191
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: And not that it.

1192
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: Couldn't have been those things before, But what did I say?

1193
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: The pandemic sped things up. Things that were that were

1194
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: happening a little slower with churches happened fast, it did,

1195
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: you know.

1196
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: And so I think you see.

1197
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: Stuff like that has a cost on people because a

1198
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: lot of well meaning people are like, uh, and I

1199
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: don't blame them.

1200
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: Fuck if I'm going here, I know it. So y'all,

1201
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: what do you mean, like we have a church here.

1202
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: During the middle of the pandemic.

1203
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: They were having COVID people were fucking dying. They hopped

1204
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: on a bus together no mask, went to some choir

1205
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: fucking contest or some SHITVCA. They went to convocation in

1206
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: another state, two or three busses of old people with

1207
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: no fucking masks, and despite all ordinances here and of

1208
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: course people got sick, but in their minds they were

1209
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: doing something to like they were like representing some type

1210
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: of space, and that has happened to a lot of spaces,

1211
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. Like your gym, those gyms became

1212
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 2: active places of like, we don't believe in that shit

1213
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: over here. It wasn't true community where it's like we're

1214
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: coming together, we're protecting everybody, We're wearing masks because that's

1215
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: what the fuck you're supposed to do. We did social

1216
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: because what you're supposed to do. It became No, we're

1217
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: here to defy that shit. We're in a bar now.

1218
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: We're not just in a bar to have fun. We're

1219
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: in a bar to show motherfucker's deliberble. Pussies ain't gonna

1220
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: tell us to stay home, you know what I mean.

1221
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,959
Speaker 2: So we lost something and I'm not saying that those

1222
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: things didn't exist, It was just sped up. Fractures became complete,

1223
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: like fissures in this last three years to where now

1224
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: there's spaces where I feel like people don't want to

1225
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: go back because it's like you got PTSD almost.

1226
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can I can see that. I can

1227
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: see that a lot, you know, because before the pandemic,

1228
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 4: every Saturday I used to get up early going it

1229
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: and I absolutely loved yoga. I would get up and

1230
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 4: go to the class about an hour class and you know,

1231
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 4: I was terrible at it, but I didn't care. I

1232
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: just like to get in there and you speak to everybody.

1233
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: You know, hey, how you doing. I even got fancy.

1234
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 4: I got my yoga mat, yoga blocks. I got like

1235
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 4: my own personal stuff that're like, oh, this is mine,

1236
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,959
Speaker 4: I got to use y'all shit, this is my shit,

1237
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 4: you know type of thing. And I do agree that

1238
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 4: that was like a community to me, you know what

1239
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it was that thing that I can

1240
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 4: guarantee you a lot of other people guess what, they

1241
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 4: got the gym at the house now, you know, they

1242
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 4: have all the stuff at the house now and they're

1243
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: less likely to go out and do those things.

1244
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: And also like the nature of hohorrors of vacuum. So

1245
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: what has replaced that type of community, I think is

1246
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: a hyper polarized virtual communities For a lot of people, right,

1247
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: social media is where they're finding their community. But social

1248
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: media is run by Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, whoever's running China,

1249
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: running TikTok, and so I don't think it's I think

1250
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: it's exasper is exasper exacerbating the loneliness people feel. I

1251
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: don't think it's quelling it. We haven't found whatever this

1252
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: the correct thing. If we find it, we may never

1253
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: find it. But we have not found yet the correcting

1254
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: thing that brings us together for real, Like not yet

1255
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: and I don't And this is not some cool Maayan shit,

1256
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: but there's just a certain level of like, you need

1257
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: to see real people who talk about real shit with

1258
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: their real face and real name. You we all need

1259
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 2: that because the what we have replaced it with the

1260
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: anonymous avatar or the person who's it's their real face

1261
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: and real name, but it's even their real opinion, it's

1262
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: even their real life with the things that are cherry

1263
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: picked for us to see on social media. Is that

1264
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: even a reflection of like what is happening outside my door?

1265
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: Or or am I being affected by something that? You know,

1266
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: when I see a black man and woman arguing on

1267
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: some fucking TikTok and that doesn't reflect anything in my

1268
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: life like that, and yet I'm fighting about it?

1269
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 3: What does that really mean?

1270
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: Because what that would have been in the past is

1271
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 2: I would have had to be at the food court

1272
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: at the mall to see some shit like that, right,

1273
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: and I probably wouldn't have got all both parts of

1274
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: it and wouldn't have perfect camera angles and blocking and

1275
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: started and ended at the right time.

1276
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: You know, they wouldn't be like take take two. What's

1277
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: my line?

1278
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: Like it's it's like everything had to be organic because

1279
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: you were out there like that. And especially for younger

1280
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: generations that grew up with social media and the internet

1281
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: the whole time, their connection to people, I think is

1282
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: it can be more flimsy than ever because I didn't

1283
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: grow up where I could block my even the people

1284
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: I didn't like in my neighborhood.

1285
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't block my bully.

1286
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 4: Nope, you had to be around people, you know what

1287
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 4: I mean. It's not an option. Like the harassment different.

1288
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 4: The harassment wasn't just DMS or whatever. It was like,

1289
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 4: I may have to fight this dude.

1290
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: And if me and my friend didn't like something that

1291
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: we couldn't ghost each other because you can't ghost me

1292
01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: at the bus stop.

1293
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 4: A height y'all got y'all road the same bus so like.

1294
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: But I think for other people that did grow up

1295
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: with these connections, you know I've talked about in the past,

1296
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: social media operates on some of the same ways.

1297
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 3: If you look up, look it up for yourself.

1298
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: The same ways that narcissists operate are the same tools

1299
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Speaker 2: we have for social media.

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Speaker 4: That's why a lot of them are outstanding in it.

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01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same tools. But I wonder how much

1302
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: of that's affecting each of us. And so when I

1303
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: hear like the anger towards the idea of like returning

1304
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: to communal spaces, I wonder how much of that is PTSD.

1305
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: How much of that is, you know, our own paranoia,

1306
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: how much of that is extremely justified? You know, it's America.

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01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: You can get shot in these places. Some motherfuckers out

1308
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 2: here just you know, uh, coughing all over the place,

1309
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: Like I get it. This is not a job, better

1310
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: get out there. It's just I'm recognizing how much things

1311
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: have changed, the theater being the movie theater, just only

1312
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: being one of these communal places that we no longer

1313
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: commune as hard.

1314
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 3: As we used to. But I feel like it's got

1315
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 3: to be that way with.

1316
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: Everything work, church, uh, you know, whatever spaces you were doing,

1317
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: the gym whatever.

1318
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 3: It ain't like it was even three four years ago.

1319
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and something when me and Rogers talking to car

1320
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 4: something that we talked about UH with UH, you know,

1321
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 4: job changes and things like that. Me and Roger used

1322
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 4: to break for lunch and we had like a list

1323
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 4: of like maybe five to maybe seven restaurants we rotate

1324
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: around that we would consistently go to. You know, we

1325
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: would even because I'm I'm a talkative you know, I'm

1326
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 4: y'all know me. I'm not. I'm a talkative ass bitch.

1327
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 4: So everybody talked to me and shit like this, So

1328
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: they would, you know normally, you know, they know your orders.

1329
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 4: You know, they used to your faces. You know, it

1330
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 4: would be It's one place we went to uh so

1331
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 4: often that we would normally go in. They would normally

1332
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 4: have a special. But even if I came in like

1333
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 4: right after the special outcoming, so frequently they would let

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01:08:59,000 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 4: me do the special.

1335
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: You work from home so many times you don't even

1336
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: take a lunch, you know, like even if I wanted

1337
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: to go out and go somewhere, you'd be like, nah,

1338
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna work through my lunch or stay in

1339
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: the house.

1340
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: And no one made you do that.

1341
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: You did that to yourself, And I wonder how many

1342
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: other people are just like that. And so we look

1343
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: at the economy, wonder why restaurant prices went up, because

1344
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: it's either the restaurant price got to go up or they.

1345
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 3: Got to go out of business.

1346
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: And every day I get an email from my local

1347
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: news it tells me some beloved restaurant is out of business.

1348
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: Because I don't think as much as and like, once again,

1349
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 2: it just sped things up. This was probably always gonna happen.

1350
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 2: But the things that were communal spaces are dying off.

1351
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 2: They're struggling now. Some of them are trying to come back,

1352
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: you know. And I think for very special events you

1353
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 2: can get it. And what it made me think about

1354
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: was how everyone that listened to the sound of my voice,

1355
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: everyone in the chat room that experienced this, how much

1356
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 2: did you enjoy renaissance lot? How much are people enjoying

1357
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. I know y'all ain't because y'all too black

1358
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: and stuff, but in general, people will leave the house

1359
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: for communal experience and it's.

1360
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 3: Orgasmic to people at this point.

1361
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: But we used to have that a lot more often

1362
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: in a lot smaller spaces with each other. And I

1363
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: just think it is lost. I don't think it's coming back.

1364
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: And I don't think the Internet has replaced it. I

1365
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: don't find us finding community in other places. And what

1366
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: I'll point out is, if loneliness is an epidemic, sadness

1367
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: is an epidemic.

1368
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 3: Yes.

1369
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: And if sadness is an epidemic, anger is an epidemic

1370
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: becauseiness turns to anger. When sadness has nowhere to go,

1371
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 2: it turns to anger. And that is what I feel

1372
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,480
Speaker 2: is the general tenor of what we are living.

1373
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 3: In right now is just I don't like.

1374
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not old enough to have experienced the

1375
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: Civil War, so forgive me, but at least in my lifetime,

1376
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen people this mad all the time

1377
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: over everything.

1378
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: I feel like people.

1379
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 2: Are as mad at Matt Rife as they are at Israel,

1380
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: as they are at Joe Biden, as they are at

1381
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 2: puff Daddy. You see what I'm saying, Like every level

1382
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 2: of anger is ten. There's no there's no mytht anymore.

1383
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 2: There's everything is rage. There's no I don't, there's no

1384
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: like annoyed. It's you know, it's It's the thing I

1385
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: often push back from because I need to experience for myself,

1386
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: my own reality. I need to feel less like I'm

1387
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: being pushed to like to group up empower on people.

1388
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: So I know I sound like a contraying the people,

1389
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: but I swear to God I'm not. I just want

1390
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: to be me, and I know me is not rage

1391
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: for all the time, and I'm willing to bet it's not.

1392
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 3: You either, agreed.

1393
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 4: And I think as somebody who grew up with not

1394
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: the proper tools on how to control their emotions, and

1395
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: my highs was high and my lorse was loose, and

1396
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 4: I didn't have that middle ground. And the older I got,

1397
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 4: the more and more I worked really, really diligent and

1398
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 4: really hard to balance that out. And because I went

1399
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 4: through that process a lot of the things online, I'm like, oh, okay,

1400
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,879
Speaker 4: it's like I see it for what it is sometimes

1401
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: more than people that are in And I go, oh,

1402
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: you're just not a balancing of emotions here, because, like

1403
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 4: you say, all these things that happen can't have the

1404
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 4: same infraction, and everything that happens in the world cannot

1405
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 4: demand your undivided attention. It just can't. We're not made

1406
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 4: like that in or nor we designed like that.

1407
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think when you're lonely, you latch on

1408
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,520
Speaker 2: the community and anger is a community.

1409
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: There's a community and anger.

1410
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: Now community, there's a community and commiseration, you know, And

1411
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: if you can do that online, you can do that online,

1412
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: because what I don't see people really talking about is

1413
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: themselves agree.

1414
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 3: No one's talking about what they're.

1415
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: Not happy with it really in their life like that

1416
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: for the most part, especially not in a way that

1417
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: will allow people to try to solve it. Shit I've seen,

1418
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: so I'll lose kind of all the people I know

1419
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: who shared something sad and then got angry at people

1420
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 2: in any level of reply other than I'm sorry that

1421
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 2: happened to you, right, you know, I've seen so many

1422
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: versions of like don't you hate when you talk to

1423
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: somebody about a problem and then they start telling you

1424
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: about a problem they had, and I'm like, you mean

1425
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: one of the tenets of conversation relating to someone.

1426
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 3: Now, I understand that can be used in.

1427
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: A fucked up way, but just hear me out that

1428
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,879
Speaker 2: in itself, you have not pointed out a problem people.

1429
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: That's a thing that'll go back to the fucking caveman days.

1430
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: If you say, hey, I burn myself on that fire

1431
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 2: over there, fucking the other cave Man's gonna uncle bunk

1432
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: in his ass, like, oh yeah, I fucking burn myself

1433
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: on that fire. It's crazy, right and that, But the

1434
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,879
Speaker 2: idea of whatever is, whether it's narcissism, whether it's anger loaning,

1435
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: but the idea of lashing out at that person, like

1436
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: what the fuck that's where we're at right now feels and.

1437
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it just these are the things

1438
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: that want in my mind.

1439
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: I was, I told you it was gonna be a

1440
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: weird conversation that didn't really lead anywhere.

1441
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1442
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: I haven't solved any of this, but I guess this

1443
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: is why I feel so strident and trying to make

1444
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 2: sure I maintain like my personal, uh my personal point

1445
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: of view, because I feel like we're constantly being bombarded

1446
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: by what is essentially propaganda at this point and unregulated

1447
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: in quotes, unregulated places like your Twitter's and your Facebook.

1448
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: Facebook just got caught again taking what ads that were

1449
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 2: saying that the election was stolen. Oh, it's twenty twenty

1450
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: four elections Gearant, It's twenty twenty four is right around

1451
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: the corner. That's election season, Mark Zuckerberg and them on

1452
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 2: that platform again.

1453
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 3: Twitter.

1454
01:15:54,280 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 2: Elon Musk was agreeing with some antisemitic thing apparently, you know, Like, uh,

1455
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 2: I can't even start on just like the amount of

1456
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,520
Speaker 2: misinformation that's going back and forth about Israel and Palestine.

1457
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: As if the regular just confirmed information is not damning enough,

1458
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 2: there's enough, there's also people sharing misinformation. I was listening

1459
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: on the media and they had a segment that was

1460
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: about TikTok. And once again, this isn't telling you what

1461
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: side to be on, necessarily, but I thought it was

1462
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 2: interesting that you could hear people on TikTok sharing stuff

1463
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: like Osama bin Laden's letter after attacking America in the

1464
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: Twin Towers and like sharing it earnestly, like yeah, this

1465
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 2: guy's a good this is a good source of information

1466
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: to start this discussion off of. And that can only

1467
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: really happen in a place like the internet, correct, you

1468
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And like I said, I'm not

1469
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: even knocking. This is not about what side drawn. I

1470
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 2: really think it shouldn't really be a side to like.

1471
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 2: But as much death has been happening, it doesn't seem

1472
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it should be controversial to want

1473
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 2: all this death to stop, But apparently it is. I'm

1474
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 2: watching right celebrities lose their fucking job for saying stuff

1475
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: that I did not think was anti semitic. But maybe

1476
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: I just don't know what anti semitism is anymore, because

1477
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 2: the at least the quotes I read, I was like, yeah,

1478
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you don't want those people to be killed.

1479
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 3: We think those thousands of people, the ones that didn't

1480
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: have shit to do with it. Seemed like, is this

1481
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: even really? What is this changing? What is the goal?

1482
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: Is it just to kill all the people that are

1483
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: like in this area of this descent?

1484
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 3: Is that the goal? And that's a valid question to ask.

1485
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: And I'm seeing people basically be fucking cast out of

1486
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: Hollywood for that shit.

1487
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: So it's scary as fuck.

1488
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 4: Yep. That's why people like, fuck it, don't ask me

1489
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 4: about it. I'm not speaking about I'm not talking about it. Nope,

1490
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 4: got no comments.

1491
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: It's scary as fuck, man.

1492
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: But like, if you see anything you think is questionable

1493
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 2: or misinformation on any side of that discussion online, your

1494
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 2: enemy number one, right.

1495
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: If you say like, hey, wait is that and you'll see.

1496
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: Like sometimes it'll come out and be like, yeah, that

1497
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: didn't actually happen. This is a video from this year

1498
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 2: in this place and that, and people are like, yeah,

1499
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't care, that's the I choose to believe what

1500
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: the fuck I saw. And I feel like, you know

1501
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 2: why that happens. Anger, Yes, because anger don't give a fuck. No,

1502
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: Anger don't necessarily need facts. No, Anger feelings, big feelings,

1503
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 2: don't really need logic to them.

1504
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 4: You know, anger, I will continue to say its anger

1505
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 4: is an illusion of control if and the thing is,

1506
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 4: it's okay to feel anger, but when you let anger

1507
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,919
Speaker 4: direct your path, anger will lead you down some roads

1508
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: and some consequences that you will never recover from.

1509
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what the course correction will be, if

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01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: there will ever be one, but I mean, I don't know.

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01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 2: I was just it just it felt like something I

1512
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 2: wanted to say on here, because it's just like I

1513
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: can say stuff here that I don't have to fight

1514
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: people online about because I don't think the things I'm

1515
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 2: saying are necessary things we should fight about. And you know,

1516
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm just watching people, much like the box

1517
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: office discussion. I'm watching people move from argument to argument

1518
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: with no consideration of the much bigger picture of the

1519
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: last say twelve years, but definitely the last three or

1520
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 2: four of the cycle of disconnection from community online because

1521
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 2: everyone thinks it's mega, everyone thinks it's Q or nine.

1522
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 3: But the online tools are the same no matter what

1523
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 3: your cause is.

1524
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: Right liberal shit can be just as much of a

1525
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 2: get down, lay down religion as as just as this

1526
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: other right wing shit it can be. I've seen it

1527
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: happen to people, Yes I have, and I've seen the

1528
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: consequences in the fallout from it too. Yeah, when you're

1529
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 2: surrounded by that same environment where everybody in the tools

1530
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 2: are those of you know, like narcissists and flying monkeys, man, Like,

1531
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: it's no one's stronger than that, you know.

1532
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: What I mean, Like we you know, we all can

1533
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 3: be succeptible to that.

1534
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: I've had moments in my life where I look back

1535
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: and go, what the fuck I was deep in there, you.

1536
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 4: Know, and nobody is above it, That's what I said. Yeah, Yeah,

1537
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 4: And that's the thing everybody think. But everyone thinks they're

1538
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,839
Speaker 4: about That's what I'm saying. Everybody think that their exception

1539
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 4: to the rule. You are not above it. You're not

1540
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 4: getting tricked, You're not you're not above being put into

1541
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 4: the matrix. You are not, like I said, social media

1542
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 4: unless you don't have a social media account at all.

1543
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 4: You either doing a whole lot of the drugs, a

1544
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 4: little bit of the drugs, or teams like.

1545
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 3: A big one for me. That's very telling.

1546
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: That's happening right now is a lot of the And

1547
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: this we saw this every every presidential election cycle. This

1548
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,839
Speaker 2: happens because it's an attention economy and people want attention.

1549
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: But the people who are like, I'm not voting a

1550
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: year out from the from the election, I'm not voting.

1551
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't give fuck. This ain't got nothing to do

1552
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 2: with me, right, Think about this for a second. Let's

1553
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: say you're not voting. You're listening to side of my voice.

1554
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: You're not voting. You know what you can do.

1555
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: Not talk about it, right, But the fact that you

1556
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: talked about it is more than you're not voting. You

1557
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 2: want to either fight about it or commiserate about it.

1558
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 4: Engage.

1559
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: You want to engagement. You don't want to just not vote.

1560
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: Not voting is a passive thing, meaning you not vote

1561
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: by not voting right, by staying home, by not saying shit.

1562
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people ain't voting for years. You

1563
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 4: wouldn't know because they don't tell you.

1564
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: But like let me tell y'all something. I've never voted Republican, right,

1565
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 2: I've never voted Republican. But I don't tweet. I don't

1566
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: give a fuck who wins. I'm not voting for Tim Scott.

1567
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: You know why, because who gives a fuck I'm not.

1568
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: I know that. I don't need you to know that.

1569
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck if you know that or not.

1570
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: I made up my mind. I'm going to do what

1571
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: the fuck I'm going to do. When I'm not gonna

1572
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: do what I'm not gonna do, it's really not a

1573
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: discussion that we had. The only reason I would ever

1574
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 2: say that out loud to someone is if I want

1575
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: to fight about not voting for Tam Scott. And guess what,

1576
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: I don't find any of these motherfuckers worth fighting about.

1577
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: It's really not worth me to fight with this nigga

1578
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: about voting for Tim. So I'm actually signaling somebody when

1579
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,879
Speaker 2: I bring that up. Of course I would be signaling somebody.

1580
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 3: Now.

1581
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 2: It's easy to say that about Tam Scott because we

1582
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: all agree none of us should vote for Tam Scott.

1583
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 2: But if I say that about Joe Biden and people

1584
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: don't agree, now we're fighting, and the fight is what

1585
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 2: the people want. They don't give a fuck about the

1586
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 2: voter or not vote. If they're staying home, they can

1587
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: just stay home. Nobody would ever know. Nope, no one

1588
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 2: knows which way you vote unless you tell them.

1589
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: So what do you really want?

1590
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: That's a personal thing that happens when you get in

1591
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: a booth. But you're telling me on social media for

1592
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 2: what purpose?

1593
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 3: Because you're lonely and you're angry and you're sad.

1594
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: Right, So that's what I was thinking about. All right, y'all,

1595
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: I gotta get out of here. I got something to

1596
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: do later on. Thanks for listening to everybody. I know

1597
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: this is a weird, meandering conversation, but this is the

1598
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 2: one that I felt like giving y'all a dad.

1599
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1600
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 2: I could have hit you out with some of this

1601
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: band turned some jokes and shit, but fucking you know,

1602
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: we showed up. We hear Black Friday self still happening?

1603
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: Is holiday car is still happening?

1604
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 4: Yes?

1605
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: And uh they're already on the way. I saw the

1606
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: it's getting mailed to me, so I'm looking forward to

1607
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: that and may or may not do shows for the

1608
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: rest of the week. I'm guessing definitely not Thursday for sure,

1609
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 2: and yeah, so we'll see. I do have some guest

1610
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: appearances coming out for our Nerves, be doing All Star

1611
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 2: podcast with them Locked on Hornets gonna be uh gonna

1612
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: be on there tomorrow morning talk about the Charlotte Hornets.

1613
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: And Karen and I were on Backlook Cinema podcast. Yes,

1614
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: that'll be out soon. We talked alien resurrections if you

1615
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: like that, so check that out.

1616
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

1617
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: And I always, you know, on the Karen Hunter Show

1618
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, so we're always out here doing stuff.

1619
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 3: Uh grinding. But yeah, if we.

1620
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: Don't talk to you between this uh this uh late

1621
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: next holiday or whatever, you know, happy uh seeing your

1622
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: family gobble gobble whatever, y'all get into.

1623
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 3: Happy to work whatever it is.

1624
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, was talking to my mom today because

1625
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: she said, we don't need to bring anything for Thanksgiving,

1626
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: just show up, and I said, you know, I like chaos,

1627
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: so I'm bringing something. I cooked too much to not

1628
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: bring anything, So I was like.

1629
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 4: Nothing, absolutely positivety, nothing that you.

1630
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: Show last year.

1631
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: I think I roasted some potatoes in the air fryer

1632
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 2: and there they were straight, but they weren't like memorable.

1633
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 3: Like people won't remember those potatoes.

1634
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: But I was like, I got some more potatoes and

1635
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: I got some ribs. And I said, which one do

1636
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 2: you want me to make? The potatoes or the ribs.

1637
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: And she was like, now you know you're talking to

1638
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: a black person. I said, ribs. It is all right, y'all.

1639
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 4: Till next time.

1640
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: I love you,