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Speaker 2: Like, if you look at Africa today, I mean you

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Speaker 2: look at all of this, right, you look at Guinei

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Speaker 2: and whatever you see here, you go to Senegal, you

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Speaker 2: go to Courtney Vonder, you're gonna say the same. So

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Speaker 2: this is kind of like America back in the mid

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Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, right, So back then the

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Speaker 2: problem with the so it's like they're looking at America

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Speaker 2: as the wild West, whereas like investment is really risky.

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Speaker 2: So but the early investors like the Conoguies, the Rocker

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Speaker 2: Colors and all of that.

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Speaker 3: The ones that took the risk early on.

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Speaker 2: Today they didn't want to control the financial industry in

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Speaker 2: the state, which means they control the financial industry globally, right,

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Speaker 2: And so Africa is at that point today. So you

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Speaker 2: have and you have a lot of investors actually interested

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Speaker 2: in Africa, but there's still that what if, right, like

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Speaker 2: the risk and like and mostly it is like connected

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Speaker 2: to political problems because you look at it where like

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Speaker 2: ow politically most of the countries are not stable. Like

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Speaker 2: you look at Guinea for example, Guinea hold the lowest

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Speaker 2: depths in Africa. But a lot of the investors they

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Speaker 2: look at that, which is amazing. But the problem is

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Speaker 2: politically Guinea has been challenged for the past twenty years,

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Speaker 2: right since we lost Lanstan La Conte. You had militaries,

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Speaker 2: militaries and right now we have the military. They want

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Speaker 2: to do good things, but it's like you know, from

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Speaker 2: like an American or like a European or Japanese. You

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Speaker 2: know me as a as an African who's an American,

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Speaker 2: I can understand it. You know, I can get my

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Speaker 2: money in America, bring it to Africa. I have my

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Speaker 2: family here, right, It's like I'm not risking much. But

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Speaker 2: let's say for somebody like you, you don't have anyone

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Speaker 3: Like your risk is too high.

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Speaker 2: If you look at it from a financial perspective, these

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Speaker 2: are all huge opportunities.

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Speaker 3: These are like a real set opportunities.

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Speaker 2: But it's like the customer is, if you put some money,

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Speaker 2: what guarantees do you have?

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Speaker 3: You know you're not going to lose your money.

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Speaker 2: You see, like a building like that, that building costs

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Speaker 2: around five million dollars, but actually the Green World Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that building right there, it cuts around five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: They already made a reason on their investment because you

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Speaker 2: know how much they can sell an apartment. They can

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Speaker 2: sell apartment for like a million dollars easy. It's it's insane. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy. Like a rent like for a building like

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Speaker 2: that can go easily five thousand dollars a monthey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so because most of the people that live in it

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Speaker 2: mining sector, you know, like big enterprises they have money

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Speaker 2: they uh, they take.

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Speaker 3: Rent for their executives, right or ministers.

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Speaker 2: Because you have the President Palace right there, you have

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Speaker 2: all the minister of Economy and Finance are rare, so

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Speaker 2: most of the time they don't want to go home,

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Speaker 2: so they rather take apartments in downtown. So the rent

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Speaker 2: is like crazy, yeah exactly, they can get back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But who's the people that actually are taking a risk

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Speaker 3: right now right now? Chinese? Number one. The Chinese.

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Speaker 2: See those buildings are owned by Turkis, yeah, both of them.

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Speaker 2: So the Chinese, the turkis a little bit of Americans

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Speaker 2: Europeans less because now the Americans are more like you know,

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Speaker 2: like from a geopolitics, it's like the Americans are kicking

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Speaker 2: out the Europeans when we talk about Europeans like the

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Speaker 2: some Americans that are coming to invest a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but number one is the Chinese. And then also you

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Speaker 2: Like the Americans like somebody like us who's like an

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Speaker 2: Africa like Indian in my case, at the same time,

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Speaker 2: an American like I'm close with the American ambassador, like

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Speaker 2: not just here, but a couple of countries.

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Speaker 3: They try to leverage people like us.

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Speaker 2: The company small Americans that come because they losing the

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Speaker 2: they don't want that. Like most of the roads here

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Speaker 2: are done by the by the Chinese. Like you know,

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Speaker 2: we talk about Humandu, right, the biggest project in Guinea

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Speaker 2: today fifty percent ownership.

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Speaker 3: It's owned by Sinfer, which is a Chinese company.

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Speaker 2: Right, So the Chinese are the biggest risk takers, and

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Speaker 2: then the Saudist the Emiratis. So first the Chinese, second

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Speaker 2: the Arabs taught the Russians, and then you have the Americans.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a common thing as we go to

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Speaker 4: country the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, common same thing.

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Speaker 4: So most people know mining there in Guinea. Yeah. What

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Speaker 4: are some of the other areas those apart.

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Speaker 2: From yeah, uh definitely real estate, second agriculture. We'll be

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Speaker 2: working on a project that uh division. We're calling it,

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Speaker 2: uh the tenne of Vision.

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Speaker 3: It is the feed to West Africa because.

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Speaker 2: Guinea today, Guinea is an important around one point two

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Speaker 3: What of sugar? It's insane and it's important around one

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Speaker 3: point one billion dollars what of rights?

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's ridiculous So we've been in this discussion

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Speaker 2: with the Brazilians because everybody knows today Brazil they become

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Speaker 2: the number one agriculture country because Brazil became Brazil because

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Speaker 2: of agriculture. You know, they're taking up even the state

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Speaker 2: when it's come to Cardo farming.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: So we've been discussing with the Brazilians a Bruston partners,

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Speaker 2: you're a couple of weeks ago. So we're trying to

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Speaker 2: do how to bring that Brazilian technology into agriculture to

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Speaker 2: develop Guinea because Guinea holds forty percent of West Africa's

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Speaker 2: arable land, so that means Guinea can feed West Africa basically,

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Speaker 2: but nobody knows that because everybody knows about When you

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Speaker 2: talk about Guinea, they talk about box side, they talk

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Speaker 2: about iron or the like, they talk about the mind

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Speaker 2: because that's what everybody knows about Guinea is that wealthy

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Speaker 2: country that have all types of minerals. Right because today

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Speaker 2: guineas exporting around nine billion dollars just gold.

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Speaker 3: To Dubai alone.

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Speaker 2: Right, So the economy of Guinea is divided between box

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Speaker 2: side and gold. The government and entrepreneurs like us, we

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Speaker 2: want to change that. We want to change the narrative

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Speaker 2: a little bit. But so in hey, it's not just

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Speaker 2: about mind. There's a huge opportunities out there that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people can make a lot of money, Like

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Speaker 2: you know, well potential investors can make a huge return

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Speaker 5: So China invested heavy, all the Arab countries invested heavy.

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Speaker 5: Like why is it important for black Americans and the

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Speaker 5: diaspora to invest?

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Speaker 2: I mean, for me, it's pretty Uh, it's a it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a null braining because when you talk about

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Speaker 2: I mean for me, and you know, when you talk

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Speaker 2: about Black America or like like every black person they

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Speaker 2: originate from here, right, So why should we let the

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Speaker 2: Chinese or you know, the Arabs or all the people

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Speaker 2: come back to Africa and only like we know, Africa

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Speaker 2: made China what China is today. Africa made America with

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Speaker 2: Americans today because you look like without the technologists coming

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Speaker 2: the technology we have today, you know, and all of

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Speaker 2: that is coming from the continent, right and we've seen

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Speaker 2: the changes. So why not attract you know, black Americans

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Speaker 2: to come back and take that advantage rather than go

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Speaker 2: to the white Man, to the Chinese, to the Arab right.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, the message, my message I

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Speaker 2: will put out to my black American friends is to

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Speaker 2: like look at Africa as the same way you know

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Speaker 2: the few white Europeans looked at America back in the

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Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds. Right, So the opportunity is you can't even

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Speaker 2: on it. Right, So everybody knows without Africa from climate change,

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Speaker 2: everything by twenty fifty, like the wall is not going

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Speaker 2: to be the same because right now it's even like

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Speaker 2: the global powers they're actually saying if they don't because

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Speaker 2: they've taken everything from Africa, and now we get to

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Speaker 2: a point where like if they don't even help Africa

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Speaker 2: to be screwed over because Africa have so much poverty

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Speaker 2: and it's literally holding the global economy down, okay, and

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Speaker 2: so and it's like you have the poverty, but at

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Speaker 2: the same time they need everything from Africa, Like Africa

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Speaker 2: hold when you talk about again agriculture, Africa holds fifty

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Speaker 2: percent of aurrible land, sixty percent of the water reserves

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Speaker 2: right because you know a lot of countries are running

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Speaker 2: out of water, but Africa have you have lakes everywhere,

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Speaker 3: Like so if we don't fix the balance, the global

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Speaker 2: Like we cannot just keep on when when I say

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Speaker 2: so they have to get back.

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Speaker 3: And so like the best.

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Speaker 2: People that you know supposed to capitalize on that opportunity

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Speaker 2: is black people, like black people being not just in Africa,

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Speaker 2: but outside of Africa. Till today, we've been up like

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Speaker 2: we oppressed it. You go to Brazil, you see black

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Speaker 3: You go to you go to the state, like, but

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Speaker 3: we can change that. We can be on top, and

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Speaker 3: we can be on.

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Speaker 2: Top really fast instead of like spending going like aud

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Speaker 2: of years for us to be on top. We don't

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Speaker 2: have to go through the same process and the systems

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Speaker 2: that the white men, the Asian they go through.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 2: No, we can pivot, you know, we can fast track

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Speaker 2: to get to work because now you have technologies, you

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Speaker 2: have everything right, and we get the knowledge right.

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Speaker 3: You look at some of the biggest institutions today.

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Speaker 2: They're wrong by black people, right, So like why can't

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Speaker 2: why not ask black people successful like Africa Americans come

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Speaker 3: What already the white man is trying to take.

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Speaker 2: Advantage because see that's the thing, like they don't want

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Speaker 2: the successful black man, like you know, African Americans to

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Speaker 2: see that. Growing up in New York, I remember that

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Speaker 2: and as a businessman who have made it to that

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, becoming a millionaires as a

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Speaker 2: black man, you get to meet a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: People will ask me, like, how do you mate it

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Speaker 3: to become a millionaire.

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Speaker 2: As an African? Because it's like almost impossible. They don't

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Speaker 2: see when you talk about Africa, they see this, you

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Speaker 2: know I mean, which is like this is the reality

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Speaker 2: because for them when you talk about Africa, what's come

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Speaker 2: to their mind is this. They don't think you have

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Speaker 2: something like that, you know what I mean, They don't

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Speaker 2: think you have something better in Africa.

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Speaker 3: Well, like we want to change.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, hey, look the black rock were

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Speaker 2: tinto's the world biggest institutions.

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Speaker 3: Their their wealth is coming from Africa.

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Speaker 5: But I also speak to the dispet like that's a

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Speaker 5: visual of right there right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's the change that's happening, yeah and fast.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like you don't have to go far.

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Speaker 2: Just right here, that's a that's a million dollar house,

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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's like below poverty line. So it's

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Speaker 2: literally and then the crazy thing. You have the president

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 3: So the president. You have the.

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Speaker 2: President right here who is like the president of the country.

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Speaker 2: You have a multi millionaire who live you know, just

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Speaker 2: right there. At the same time, you have somebody you

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Speaker 2: can't even get a dollar a day, right.

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Speaker 4: So taking a lot that somebody's opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, somebody, yeah exactly, say somebody already building.

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Speaker 2: I mean you you look left and right, there's already

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Speaker 2: buildings coming like you know, coming.

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Speaker 1: Here this network right like talking about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, right there.

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Speaker 2: You have the islands over there, like you have about

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Speaker 2: three four five islands just right there right so, I mean,

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Speaker 2: and this is not just Guinea like you go to Senegal,

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Speaker 2: you go to Codivar, you go to Benin like where

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Speaker 2: everywhere you go in the continent is like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: so you can see the opportunity right there and The

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Speaker 2: sad reality is that you see those buildings, they're not

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Speaker 2: owned by even Guineans. They're owned by Turkis, they're owned

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Speaker 2: by you know, the white skin. They're not owned by

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Speaker 2: black people. But like, because they see the risk, the

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Speaker 2: return on investment is way higher than the risk. Exactly,

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Speaker 2: they know the reward, So that's why they're willing to come. Like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're taking over a place like this in

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Speaker 2: amount of a couple of months, they turn it into

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Speaker 2: that and they're making millions of dollars.

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