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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Hey fam we are so excited to welcome you to

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Speaker 2: a very special episode of the bright Side. We're going

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Speaker 2: to be diving into our own journeys with imposter syndrome

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Speaker 2: with a couple of very special guests, and we're also

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Speaker 2: going to discover how to remind ourselves that we're worth it.

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Speaker 3: If it sounds a little different today, it's because Loriel

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Speaker 3: Paris and the Hello Sunshine Collective have come together to

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Speaker 3: present the first ever live recorded episode of the bright

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Speaker 3: Side at Hello Sunshine Shine Away in Los Angeles. We

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Speaker 3: are so excited to highlight an incredible collaboration between Loriel

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Speaker 3: Paris and the Hello Sunshine Collective. We're creating community around

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Speaker 3: confidence and helping women fearlessly pursue their passions. We'd like

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Speaker 3: to give a big shout out to our Hello Sunshine

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Speaker 3: members here with us today. I see some familiar faces

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, October eighth.

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Speaker 3: I'm Simone Voice, I'm Danielle Robey and this is the

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Speaker 3: bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we

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Speaker 3: come together to share women's stories, to laugh, to learn,

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Speaker 3: and brighten your day. Hello Shine Away, Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: bright Side.

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Speaker 2: So for our best es at home. Shineaway is equal

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Speaker 2: parts entertainment and empowerment. There are panels, workshops, author meet

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Speaker 2: and greets. We've truly got it all. So we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about the Hello Sunshine Collective for a moment.

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Speaker 2: It has been a game changer for both of us.

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Speaker 2: Danielle and I joined the collective this past year. For

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Speaker 2: me personally, it has been this time of radical self discovery,

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Speaker 2: of new friendships and expansion. And this year's class features creators, innovators,

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Speaker 2: and influencers across food, business, art and culture, including front

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Speaker 2: of the Pod Bobby Dalkin, who will be joining us

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Speaker 2: on stage in just a few moments.

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Speaker 3: Part of the beauty of the collective is how uplifting

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Speaker 3: it is. Today's show focuses on imposter syndrome, which the

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Speaker 3: collective works to counter through mentorship, through sisterhood and positive affirmation,

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Speaker 3: and by validating who you are and what you have

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Speaker 3: to offer. Being a part of the collective has opened

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Speaker 3: up so many doors for me and Simone, and it's

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Speaker 3: also allowed us to show up for other women as

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Speaker 3: an ally and validate their ideas and their contributions.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't have said that better myself Danielle. And the

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Speaker 2: interesting thing about imposter syndrome is that it actually is

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Speaker 2: more prevalent in women, even though both genders experience it.

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Speaker 2: But what's so special about our Hello, Sunshine community is

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Speaker 2: our focus on connection and support. Those two things have

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Speaker 2: been proven to ease the negative intrusive effects of imposter syndrome.

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Speaker 3: Well said, see money, Okay, thank you very much. I

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Speaker 3: think now's a good time for us to bring our

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it, shine away.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for our convo?

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Speaker 2: Please help us?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the stage, author chef and newly minted Collective

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Speaker 3: member Gobby Dalkin and Broadway sensation co host of the

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Speaker 3: Emmy winning daytime show The Top.

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Speaker 1: Amanda clues.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, y'all. I can't think of two better

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Speaker 2: people to have this conversation with. We both had both

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Speaker 2: of you on our show recently recently, and now we

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Speaker 2: get to do it. Irl.

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Speaker 5: I know this is like guys.

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys hi.

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Speaker 6: Everyone, Well, let's take a quick picture.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 6: I'm on low sleep by before week old, so don't

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Speaker 6: judge me. Everybody wave high.

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Speaker 2: I'm amazer here right now. This is so impressive.

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Speaker 6: Oh I would never say no to come hang out

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Speaker 6: with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sometimes we do it over zoom.

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Speaker 3: So it's really exciting for us to be here in

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Speaker 3: person with you truly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I think we should talk about why imposter

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Speaker 2: syndrome is the theme of our talk today. The reason

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Speaker 2: why we wanted to talk about this is because in

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Speaker 2: with a little bit of level setting. I want to

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Speaker 2: start by defining the term. So, imposter syndrome is a

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Speaker 2: behavioral pattern characterized by persistent doubts in your abilities and accomplishments.

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Speaker 2: And people who often struggle with imposter syndrome often fear

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Speaker 2: Kind of triggering to read that book.

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Speaker 3: Well, what I think is interesting is actually, let me

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Speaker 3: ask a question first.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody keep New Year's resolutions?

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Speaker 3: We have like four hands in the air. I can

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Speaker 1: Self esteem is what you think about yourself.

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Speaker 3: Self worth is what you think you deserve, and I

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Speaker 3: I think I share that because imposter syndrome is so

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Speaker 3: with you, Amanda, when was the first time you ever

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Speaker 7: Okay, so this was I when I got the job

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Speaker 7: And Jamie Lee Curtis was our guest interview that day,

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Speaker 7: Jamie Like I was like, this is I don't know

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Speaker 7: you know, hosts on this show. I think it was

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Speaker 7: And it was like my turn to ask Jamielee Curtis

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Speaker 7: she goes stop. She was like Amanda, and I was like.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: I was like and she was like, grief.

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Speaker 7: Is love that we can't express, and I think you

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Speaker 7: what is happening right now? That's so beautiful. It was

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Speaker 5: But it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I think we need other people in our lives

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Speaker 2: importance of friendship and community. Now, Goby, you've said that

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Speaker 2: imposter syndrome shows up for you in your first right,

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Speaker 2: like your first private chef moment, your first ig live,

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Speaker 6: I think imposter syndrome for me is when you're on

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Speaker 6: like you're quite ready for it. And so, like you said,

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Speaker 6: the first time I was a private chef, I was

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Speaker 6: And the first time I published a book, I was

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Speaker 7: You know what I think too, It's like, I think

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Speaker 7: we get imposter syndrome because we don't necessarily allow ourselves

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Speaker 7: to celebrate entirely the things that we accomplish in our life. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I think we're so used to I did that, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I have to keep doing more things.

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Speaker 7: And so you don't allow yourself to really feel the

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Speaker 7: then when something new does come along, you feel like

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Speaker 7: You've been prepared. You're just you're not allowing yourself to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to ask you guys about these four

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Speaker 3: anything less than perfection is considered failure. The natural genius,

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Speaker 3: which is a funny name. Success is measured by how

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Speaker 3: And the experts excess is measured by the volume of

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Speaker 3: Do these four types resonate with you? Yeah, I'm getting

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Speaker 2: That's what I was feeling as you were reading it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel like I'm a combination, which that's

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Speaker 2: just how well are you? I think I'm a combination

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Speaker 2: of all of them except natural genius, Like nothing has

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Speaker 2: ones I want to hear. Yeah, how about what do

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Speaker 2: you guys think?

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Speaker 7: Well, I was just gonna say Goby was just pregnant

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Speaker 5: So I'm pretty sure you're a superwoman friend.

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Speaker 6: That does resonate and you never want to say it.

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Speaker 6: But the natural genius of it, that was how easy

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Speaker 6: things feel is definitely something that hits home for me.

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Speaker 1: Oh say more, what do you mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: When I I mean, listen, I definitely struggle with things

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Speaker 6: install liive and you're like, I don't know how to

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Speaker 6: go live. I want my own TV show. No one's

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Speaker 3: I interviewed a psychologist once who said competence equals confidence,

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Speaker 3: and that's kind of what I'm thinking with this, Like

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Speaker 3: the more you do it, the less scared you are.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, A repetition's a huge way to get past imposter

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Goby. That leads me to my hot take

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Speaker 2: I actually don't think imposter syndrome is always a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: That's like the competence part. Right, Yeah, you just keep

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Speaker 7: I'll probably just trick myself into saying like mantras like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm worth it.

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Speaker 7: I know what I'm doing, you know, Yeah, like those

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Speaker 5: I'll just like work on.

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Speaker 5: Hello, like anxiety?

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm really good at kind of just rolling

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Speaker 5: I was like, stay in my own lane, Amanda. You

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can only bring yourself to everything, you know

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Speaker 3: Gobby is known for the slutty brownie? Does anybody know

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Speaker 3: And that came up because you were chefing for Jessica

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Speaker 6: It's not worrying.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering what you think the difference is between normal

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Speaker 6: Yes, normal self doubt and imposters. God, great question. I

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, do you think that imposter syndrome

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Speaker 1: I've never thought about that.

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Speaker 5: That's really interesting it happened to anyone else here.

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Speaker 6: Because you're comparing yourself to more people when you're surrounding

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Speaker 6: Well, my mom once told my mom is my unpaid therapist.

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Speaker 7: Right there, you just got so shy.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what fear does to us, right like it

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Speaker 1: I've seen you work out.

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Speaker 7: You really work out, Bobby, my lover, because you said

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Speaker 7: al this, Hi Elvis, and let's see if he'll say it.

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Speaker 5: We do, Elvis, what do we do? We do confidence check?

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Speaker 7: And what do you say? What do you say? I'm

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Speaker 1: Because you're so handsome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Danielle, you're not getting out of this one. What's yours?

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Speaker 3: I usually just say this sounds corny, but I say

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Speaker 2: Remember I'm a man of clutes, I'm Danielle Robai, I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do this alone. Okay, so you

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna try it together. I am radiant. I

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Speaker 6: Is there anybody out there who don't be shy? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Please, we want to bring you.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna bring you up anyways, I'll go because I'm

446
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Speaker 9: standing right in front of the microphone.

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Speaker 2: Thank you do tell us your name.

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Speaker 9: I'm Catherine Podcast. I'm just so happy to have you

449
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Speaker 9: guys all here today. But a big theme of today

450
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Speaker 9: was your community. And I heard you talk about your mom,

451
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Speaker 9: You've talked about your son. Who's someone else in your

452
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Speaker 9: community that reminds you every day that.

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Speaker 1: You're worth it?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Great, and you're worth it is the Loreal tagline That

456
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Speaker 9: is my favorite tagline of all time's tagline.

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Speaker 6: Got to give a shout out to Loreal for that.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question.

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Speaker 6: Mine is my best friend Matt. He is also a

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Speaker 6: Zumba instructor, so he exudes high energy and if I'm

461
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Speaker 6: ever doubting myself or nervous about something, he will give

462
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Speaker 6: me the most epic pep talk in his zumba energetic way.

463
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Speaker 6: And he's that for me.

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Speaker 1: That's so special that it's a best friend. You don't

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Speaker 1: really hear that a lot.

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Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I think like a lot of people say

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Speaker 3: their mom or like a.

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Speaker 6: Well she's said, my mom, I can't I can't repeat it.

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Speaker 7: I would say mine is one of my best friends

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Speaker 7: that has seen me through a lot of seasons of

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Speaker 7: my life.

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Speaker 5: Her name is Rachel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like.

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Speaker 7: Where is she? She has seen me through a lot

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Speaker 7: of different seasons, you know, marriage, divorce, marriage, loss, and

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Speaker 7: she Yeah, she's like one of those friends that just

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Speaker 7: like always gives me that punch where you're like, that's right, I'm.

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Speaker 5: A man of cludes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're like that's right.

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Speaker 7: Okay, right, okay, good, I'm gonna go do that.

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Speaker 8: Then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think it is about that friend though, like,

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Speaker 3: like other than your other friends?

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Speaker 1: Is it because you value her opinion?

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Speaker 5: She's an angel on this earth? I really do think.

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Speaker 7: I mean, my friend Sarah knows her as well. Wouldn't

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Speaker 7: you say Rachel's an angel? She's an angel?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think I got lucky and I have an angel

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Speaker 7: for a friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody needs a Rachel in their life. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the friends too. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: it's all about, you know, the friends. So many of

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Speaker 2: my friends are in the audience today, and they are

495
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Speaker 2: the people that I lean on and turn to whenever

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Speaker 2: I need to remember what I'm about and what I

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Speaker 2: can do. And my best friend Liz is someone that

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Speaker 2: comes to mind. She uses exclamation points very generously, and

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Speaker 2: I think it works. I think there. I think we

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Speaker 2: need to research that because I think the exclamation points

501
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Speaker 2: there's a scientific chemical reaction that happens in here.

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Speaker 1: That just works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you.

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Speaker 1: I told my whole life to not use exclamation points,

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Speaker 1: and now I spoke for it. Let's use some.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 6: I am with you.

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Speaker 7: I love prom like hello, goodbye, Hello, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say my mom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she knows me best, for better and worse,

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Speaker 3: and so I value her opinion. Yeah, okay, don't make

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Speaker 3: me pick. You have a question you want to come up?

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Speaker 1: Okay, come on? What's your name?

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Speaker 4: NICKI?

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Speaker 3: Nick?

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Speaker 6: Cute outfit, Nicky?

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Speaker 8: Thank you? You know you say sunshine and you dress

518
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Speaker 8: the parts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we love the butter yellow.

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Speaker 8: So my question is you all are very successful and

521
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Speaker 8: beautiful people. Thank you for doing this podcast and being

522
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Speaker 8: role models for everyone. So do you have an end

523
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Speaker 8: goal in mind that is like what you're reaching for?

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Speaker 8: Do you find that it evolves as you you know,

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Speaker 8: expand your reach and get exposed to different opportunities.

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Speaker 6: I was talking to someone about this the other day, Tim,

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Speaker 6: He's right here, for I think, I mean, speaking for myself.

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Speaker 6: We live in this digital world. Like I started What's

529
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Speaker 6: gotby Cooking as this, it was a blog and it's

530
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Speaker 6: evolved into this other thing, and the whole world as

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Speaker 6: far as that it goes, is evolving. Like so, I

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Speaker 6: have no idea. I don't know what the end goal

533
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Speaker 6: is like because I think in five years there will

534
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Speaker 6: be new platforms and new opportunities and different avenues you

535
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Speaker 6: could go down and find yourself building a business. So

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Speaker 6: I don't think it for me, there's no end in sight,

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Speaker 6: like well, I'll know I'm done when I know I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I love that answer so much because I always have

539
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Speaker 2: felt so stumped whenever people ask me, what's your five

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Speaker 2: year plan? What's your ten year plan? I stopped coming

541
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Speaker 2: up with one because I realized I wasn't dreaming big

542
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Speaker 2: enough dreams. And why why set a ceiling that's unnecessary?

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Speaker 2: You know, And I've I've I mean, and to be honest,

544
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Speaker 2: like this is it for me, Like I am I'm

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Speaker 2: living dream right now, having conversations with incredible inspiring women

546
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Speaker 2: like you two us getting to become bright side besties

547
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Speaker 2: together to meet this community like this is really meaningful,

548
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Speaker 2: fulfilling work. So I'm so content and happy.

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Speaker 7: I would say that I feel like I don't because

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Speaker 7: I've had so many versions of my life. I feel

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Speaker 7: like I'm on version twenty five of life, and so

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Speaker 7: I feel like I gave up on what I can

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Speaker 7: expect in five years because I've learned that you have

554
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Speaker 7: to live for today and do everything you possibly can

555
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Speaker 7: in those moments because you never know what tomorrow will

556
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Speaker 7: bring or be, and so I kind of just thrive

557
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Speaker 7: for the moment and then let myself live and grow

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Speaker 7: and evolve as life is happening.

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful and such a great reminder. Thank you man.

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Speaker 2: How about you, Danielle.

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Speaker 3: I had a pang of imposter syndrome when you said

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Speaker 3: that I don't feel successful. I really Ever since Hello

563
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Speaker 3: Sunshine started, all I wanted to do was work for

564
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Speaker 3: Hell of Sunshine. I really feel like my mission about

565
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Speaker 3: trying to change and make the next generation have more

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Speaker 3: tools and feel better than I felt is so in

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Speaker 3: line with what they're doing. So changing the narrative for women.

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Speaker 3: I think regardless of how that shows up, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how that will show up in the

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Speaker 3: next few years.

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Speaker 2: I think the through line between what you just said,

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Speaker 2: what Amanda said, what Gobby said is redefining success in

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Speaker 2: a way that works for you and makes sense for you,

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Speaker 2: and we have to give ourselves permission to do that. Well.

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Speaker 1: This actually brings me to a question.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've had imposter syndrome more or

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Speaker 3: less as you've gotten more successful?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, But when Tim interviewed me, Hi Tim shot shout.

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Speaker 2: Out to Tim shout out show runner Tom I.

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Speaker 7: He was like, you never experienced it on Broadway? And

582
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Speaker 7: I said no, because when I was starting out on Broadway,

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Speaker 7: I was a nobody. I was at open calls for

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Speaker 7: three hours waiting to be seen. There was no like

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm walking into this audition, everybody look at me.

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Speaker 7: It was like I was a nobody and you like

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Speaker 7: worked your way up. That's how you kind of really

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Speaker 7: kind of go through Broadway.

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Speaker 5: You work your way up.

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Speaker 7: So I didn't really experience it until I was like

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Speaker 7: here in Hollywood and as an older person. But I

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Speaker 7: also think it's like a new hot term. Like it's

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Speaker 7: a like mental health wasn't talked about ten years ago

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Speaker 7: and now it's like the hot topic. So it's like,

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Speaker 7: I feel like imposter syndrome wasn't something that was being

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Speaker 7: said to me when I was eighteen years old.

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Speaker 1: Agreed it personally.

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Speaker 3: It gave me words for what I was feeling, So

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Speaker 3: I like appreciate the term, but I do agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It's really buzzy. Have you felt it more or less?

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Speaker 6: Definitely more as I've gotten older and further in my career.

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Speaker 6: Like I say, I just was nobody and I was,

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Speaker 6: you know, hustling as hard as I could to get

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Speaker 6: to where I thought the next step was. And I

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Speaker 6: think it wasn't until I got further up that journey

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Speaker 6: that I started thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: Something that always gives me peace is a statistic that

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Speaker 2: I read in Julia Borston's books. She wrote a book

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Speaker 2: called When Women Lead, and it turns out that as women,

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Speaker 2: our confidence increases as we get older, and for men

611
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Speaker 2: there's declines and it kind of plateaus at around forty

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've gotten more confident as you

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Speaker 2: get older?

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Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, I'm almost thirty four. Each year I feel

615
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Speaker 3: like so much better and.

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Speaker 1: Calmer in who I am?

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Speaker 2: Do you Yeah, one hundred percent. I think it comes

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Speaker 2: back to that competence thing too. It's like more reps

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Speaker 2: been doing this for about fifteen years now, being a journalist,

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Speaker 2: and so you just start to feel more confident.

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Speaker 6: And don't you feel like you stop caring what people

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Speaker 6: think of you the older you get? I give zero part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I also think as you get older, you really refine

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Speaker 6: who you're hanging out with and who your friends are,

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Speaker 6: and hopefully you're surrounding yourself with people who build you up,

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Speaker 6: so it's easier to lean on them and not feel

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Speaker 6: bad about that for sure.

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Speaker 1: Anyone else, do we have time for more?

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Speaker 9: Do you feel like imposter syndrome or self doubt is

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Speaker 9: something that you've always had or was it.

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Speaker 2: Taught by society?

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Speaker 3: First of all, she is sixteen years old, everybody, great question, Reagan.

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Speaker 1: With a very cute hairdo that's a great question.

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Speaker 6: I think it's perpetuated by society for sure. I think

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Speaker 6: when you look at our kids, like I'm talking five

637
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Speaker 6: and under, they do they are living their best lives.

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Speaker 6: They have zero cares in the world, And I think

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Speaker 6: as we get older, and we're society impresses certain things

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Speaker 6: upon us. That's when you start second guessing yourself. My

641
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 6: daughter wants to be the moon quite literally not possible,

642
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 6: but in her mind it sure is.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, really creative.

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Speaker 6: Though you perish we're in trouble.

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Speaker 7: That's interesting though. I think you're right, Goby. I think

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Speaker 7: that that it does. It does encourage it. I think

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Speaker 7: our society encourages it. I think social media encourages it.

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Speaker 7: I think it is something that maybe is taught, which

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Speaker 7: is sad. That's sad.

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Speaker 2: But when does it start? Where does it start?

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Speaker 1: I can tell you when mine started.

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Speaker 3: It happened for me when I was trying to fit

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Speaker 3: into workplaces that I didn't feel were really a fit.

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Speaker 3: So it's like that phrase that I always get wrong

655
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Speaker 3: about fitting a square peg into a round hole.

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Speaker 1: Did I say that right?

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Speaker 2: You did at the time? Okay, good, Yeah, you got it.

658
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Speaker 2: I've said it so many times.

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Speaker 3: I've said it wrong so many times on the podcast,

660
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Speaker 3: and so you know, you're getting feedback that's not necessarily

661
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Speaker 3: in line with who you are, doesn't fit. And then

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Speaker 3: I felt like I had to shape shift, and I

663
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Speaker 3: had a lot of male bosses and I think I

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Speaker 3: felt misunderstood by some of them, not all of them,

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Speaker 3: and that's when it started for me.

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Speaker 1: It was that feedback loop.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, I haven't had that once here, So

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Speaker 3: I think there's a huge difference when you have women

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Speaker 3: at the helm of things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see a hand.

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Speaker 4: You made a comment when does it start? So I'm

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Speaker 4: a child in an adolest and psychiatrist, and first I'd

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Speaker 4: like to say, first of all, yes, zero to five,

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Speaker 4: they have no fears.

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Speaker 6: It starts at six.

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Speaker 4: Years old when they are in school and the first

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Speaker 4: aspect of fear comes into their minds of being feeling

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Speaker 4: like belonging or taking a place, of where do they

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00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: fit in? Who is their friend? And then we become

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Speaker 4: people pleasers. So what you were all saying is fantastic.

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Speaker 4: I just wish, like this young sixteen year old said,

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Speaker 4: it starts early for our kids, or for all of

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Speaker 4: the youth, and the opportunity is to start them early

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Speaker 4: in this conversation, not when they get in the workforce

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Speaker 4: or they're in high school, because social platforms will always

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Speaker 4: be there and as you said, it is going to

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Speaker 4: change in five years, but to start them with that

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Speaker 4: conversation of we don't have fear in our minds and

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Speaker 4: our hearts and our souls. Is what needs to be

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Speaker 4: started now, and that is when it starts.

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Speaker 1: Is what come from affirmations or what are you saying?

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Speaker 4: It comes from everything. It comes from the first thing

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Speaker 4: is that we need to listen to our kids. We

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Speaker 4: have forgotten to listen to our youth and their conversations

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Speaker 4: and what their needs are and to create those resources

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Speaker 4: and guidance. Some need affirmations, some need a conversation. They

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Speaker 4: need to be trusted, and they need to be listened to.

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Speaker 4: So to do that, we've got to talk to them

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Speaker 4: and we've got to communicate with them.

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Speaker 5: You have a podcast, No, you know what?

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Speaker 7: Do you like this? I forget who said this to me? Oh,

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Speaker 7: a therapist, but never mind, was an out of the

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Speaker 7: box kind of a therapist.

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Speaker 5: If you get my drift.

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Speaker 7: He said, listen to what your children are saying, and

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Speaker 7: listen to what they're not saying. My mind was blown.

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Speaker 7: I was like, that's so beautiful. Oh, there's a hand.

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Speaker 10: So I love the expert, like the karma to bring

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00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 10: the expert into the room here, so amazing, incredible, And

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Speaker 10: I fully agree and I work with girls, and we

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Speaker 10: see the confidence drop between certain ages between thirteen and eighteen.

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Speaker 10: So I guess my question for you guys and king

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Speaker 10: off the loreal what would you guys say to the

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Speaker 10: young girls in particular who might be listening with their

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Speaker 10: moms or their very cool aunts about being worth it?

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Speaker 6: What would you say to them about their worth at

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Speaker 6: a young age?

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Speaker 7: Thank you for that question, Alana, I would instill, like

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Speaker 7: what I've learned about myself, be you. No one is

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Speaker 7: you walk into every room as you, don't try to

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Speaker 7: be anybody else because you're going to bring something to

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Speaker 7: the table that no one else can bring because they're

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Speaker 7: not you. That that's kind of like what I've learned

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Speaker 7: in my life.

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Speaker 2: Gobby, how about you.

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Speaker 6: I think about my mom when you say that, because

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Speaker 6: I mean my mom just never spoke down to herself

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Speaker 6: or to us, and she was really careful about how

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Speaker 6: she talked about her body and what she was feeding

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Speaker 6: in all these things when we were younger. And I

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Speaker 6: do think it's our job as adults to really show

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Speaker 6: our youth how to be confident and how to not like.

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Speaker 6: I know one of my friends is like, oh God,

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Speaker 6: I'm so fat and I'm like, don't say that in

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Speaker 6: front of your five year old. She will take that

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Speaker 6: to heart. So I think that's our job as parents

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Speaker 6: and leaders and adults to really impress stat upon, like

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Speaker 6: show those thirteen to eighteen year olds how to properly

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Speaker 6: care for themselves and love themselves and not put those

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Speaker 6: words in their minds.

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Speaker 5: Bobby, I love that. I love my mom's very well.

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Speaker 1: Can she be unpaid there?

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Speaker 6: I had a podcast during COVID for like a year

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Speaker 6: before I had a baby, and she was my favorite

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Speaker 6: guest on it. She was she's very insightful, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, I have to answer now, huh.

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Speaker 1: I think you know what.

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Speaker 2: I I would tell them learn how to control your

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Speaker 2: thoughts because that's something that I learned way too late

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Speaker 2: in life. I let these thoughts just like run wild

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Speaker 2: in my mind and didn't realize that I had the

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Speaker 2: power to control them.

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Speaker 1: That's a great one.

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Speaker 2: So once you can do that, you can learn how

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Speaker 2: to tame your inner critic. And doesn't mean it's gonna

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Speaker 2: go away completely, but you can learn how to manage

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Speaker 2: it better.

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Speaker 1: How about you.

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Speaker 3: I've interviewed three people this year with a book about worth.

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00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: It's in the title or it's part of it. And

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Speaker 3: what I've learned from them is that it's everybody's life

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00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: journey to find it, to build it, to remember it.

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Speaker 3: And so I actually have no advice. I think it's

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Speaker 3: part of the process of learning, and that's like part

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Speaker 3: of life. I personally feel like not everyone feels this way.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've worked for mine, I've earned it.

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Speaker 3: I've had a lot of bumps and bruises and scars,

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Speaker 3: and those are what make me feel like I'm worth something. Now.

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Speaker 3: I know some people just feel like they are, but

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Speaker 3: I didn't grow up in that house.

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Speaker 7: No, it's like that Chinese proverb, like with the bold

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Speaker 7: that's filled with the gold. You know, I'm talking about,

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Speaker 7: like it's all broken, but it's filled with gold and right, yes.

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Speaker 1: The broken pieces that make it beautiful.

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Speaker 5: You guys, not I'm talking about again.

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Speaker 2: Well, we could do this all day, we could talk

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Speaker 2: to you guys all day, but I think this brings

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Speaker 2: us to the end of our conversation. You know.

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Speaker 3: I think that imposter syndrome can take away from beautiful

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Speaker 3: moments and make you feel like you don't remember your worth.

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Speaker 3: And so I think if there's a takeaway from today

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Speaker 3: It's just like Simone said, when you feel fear that

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Speaker 3: you forget who you are, it's remember who you are.

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Speaker 3: Feel that worth You guys brought so much warmth into

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Speaker 3: the room. I could feel your souls so thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. We're so grateful for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come to our studio. Can we all just can

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Speaker 2: we bring all of you to our studio all the time?

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Speaker 2: That'd be the best. Thank you so much. You're worth it.

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Speaker 2: Your audience to shine away. Thank you got me talkin.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Amanda Klint, thank you amazing.

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Speaker 5: You're worth it.

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Speaker 2: Keep looking on the bright side, y'all.