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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Good

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Speaker 1: morning everyone, and welcome to Morning Run. It is Friday,

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Speaker 1: January thirty. First, I'm Amy.

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Speaker 2: Robots and I'm TJ Holmes on this Friday Morning Run.

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Speaker 2: Difficult work continues and difficult questions are being asked about

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Speaker 2: that deadly Plaine helicopter collision over the Potomac.

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Speaker 1: And the President has a new theory about what might

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Speaker 1: have caused the crash.

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Speaker 2: Diversity also on the run this morning, a confirmation day

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Speaker 2: like nothing the Senate has seen before. Patel, Gabbert, RFK

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Speaker 2: Junior each had their own hot seat at the Capitol.

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Speaker 1: And the biggest night in music is just days away,

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Speaker 1: but the biggest names were on stage last night to

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Speaker 1: help La recover from those devastating fires.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. There was a brand new song that

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Speaker 2: was premiered at this benefit concert from Lady Gaga last night.

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Speaker 2: But this they put this together really, really quickly, and

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Speaker 2: the biggest name showed up at this concert last night.

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Speaker 1: It's true and Lady Gaga said she was trying to

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Speaker 1: find what the perfect song would be to end the

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Speaker 1: show with that she couldn't come up with one. So

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Speaker 1: that's why she wrote one specifically for the fire victims

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Speaker 1: and for LA in its recovery efforts. But we will

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Speaker 1: get to that in just a bit. First up on

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Speaker 1: the run, though, we have to begin in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Where the massive recovery effort resumes this morning in the

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Speaker 2: The effort shifted from a search and rescue to recovery

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Speaker 2: early yesterday after authorities acknowledged there would be no survivors

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Speaker 2: from the mid air crash between an American Airlines jet

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Speaker 2: and a military helicopter.

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Speaker 1: The two aircraft collided late Wednesday night as the plane

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Speaker 1: was on final approach to land at Reagan National Airport.

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Speaker 1: So far, at least forty bodies have been recovered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty passengers four crew members were on the American

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Speaker 2: Airlines playing. Three service members were on that Black Hall helicopter.

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Speaker 2: The plane remains upside down in three sections in the

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Speaker 1: Search crews have been working in relatively shallow water just

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Speaker 1: under ten feet and even waste deep in some places.

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Speaker 1: But they're dealing with murky conditions, dangerous debris and jet fuel.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget that water temperature that they're working with

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Speaker 1: is near freezing. So these are treacherous and difficult conditions

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Speaker 1: for these emergency crews to be doing the kind of

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Speaker 1: work that seems almost unthinkable.

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Speaker 2: And they can't see a thing, you really cancer a thing,

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Speaker 2: and they're having to feel around down there in the water,

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Speaker 2: and of course just after a few minutes, your body

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Speaker 2: could possibly go into shock when the water is this cold.

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Speaker 2: But that work will continue this morning. We do want

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Speaker 2: to continue, though. Something that has already been recovered are

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Speaker 2: the flat data recorder and the voice recorder this so

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Speaker 2: called black boxes. They do have those, and while an

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Speaker 2: investigation is going to take months, the immediate and obvious

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Speaker 2: question being asked why the helicopter was in the path

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Speaker 1: Right in those cockpit. Cockpit recorders can certainly shed some

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Speaker 1: light on what was happening inside each of those aircraft.

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Speaker 1: American Airlines Flight five three four to two from Wichita,

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Speaker 1: Kansas was on final approach around eight forty five Wednesday night.

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Speaker 1: The black Hawk helicopter was on a training exercise. So

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Speaker 1: this is incredibly tight, busy and restricted airspace that is

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Speaker 1: airspace up and down the Potomac all the time, so

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Speaker 1: there was nothing unusual about that night about both of

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Speaker 2: But just before the crash, the air traffic controller radio

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Speaker 2: to the helicopter pilot, asking to confirm that he could

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Speaker 2: see the plane. The pilot confirmed visual and the air

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Speaker 2: traffic controller told him to pass behind. There was no

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Speaker 1: Now questions are also being asked about the tower staffing

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Speaker 1: at the time of the crash, which, according to published reports,

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Speaker 1: was not normal. There was one air traffic controller doing

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Speaker 2: The AP SITES and FA report that one con troller

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. However, a supervisor has

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Speaker 1: the night once air traffic slows down, and that typically

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Speaker 1: of the crash, the supervisor relieved one controller earlier than

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Speaker 2: Also yesterday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegxith said that they are

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Speaker 2: looking into an altitude issue with the helicopter. The crash

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Speaker 2: happened at four hundred feet altitude, but the militaritary helicopter's

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Speaker 2: flight ceiling should have been two hundred feet. According to

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Speaker 2: the FAA, this is now the deadliest commercial crash in

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Speaker 2: the US AND's November of two thousand and one, an

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Speaker 2: American Airlines plane Lead JFK crashed soon after take off.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty people on board were killed.

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Speaker 1: In that crash. That was with birds, right, geese, A

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Speaker 1: flock of geese that brought down that flight, I believe

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Speaker 1: is what was ultimately determined. And look, we've learned a

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Speaker 1: lot more now about the victims of the crash. At

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Speaker 1: least fourteen members of the figure skating community, including six

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Speaker 1: members of the Skate Club of Boston. They had all

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Speaker 1: traveled to Wichita to participate in a skating event.

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Speaker 2: Everly and Alydia Livingston were among them. Sisters eleven and

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Speaker 2: fourteen years old. Their parents were on board that flight

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Speaker 2: with them. Also pilot Sam Lily just twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 2: His wedding was scheduled for this fall.

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Speaker 1: Ah, this is just so. Sad Azra Raza was returning

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Speaker 1: recently for a job. Mike Stoveall and Jesse Pitcher were

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Speaker 2: We also had Sean Kay and Angela Yang, both eleven

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Speaker 2: years old and undefeated in juvenile ice dance this season.

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Speaker 2: According to skating officials, this is the one they got

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Speaker 2: me this morning, because yes, there are names. These are

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Speaker 2: because you see their names, you see their ages. But

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Speaker 2: then I went to the Instagram page that had their

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Speaker 2: eleven years old and they have these little metals around

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Speaker 2: it comes home a little differently than this type of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you have a twelve year old,

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Speaker 1: incredibly heartbreaking. You know. We say things like sixty seven

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Speaker 1: that's a staggering number. But then when you actually see

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Speaker 1: It's difficult, and that's why I think about those men

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Speaker 1: beautiful people who were living just you know, two days ago,

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Speaker 1: thanks to the brave men and women who are doing

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Speaker 2: And with so much going on, of course, questions being

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Speaker 2: everybody has somebody they love that is going to fly

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Speaker 2: on that scale that we're all dealing with. So we

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Speaker 2: he came out, he spoke robes from the briefing room yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this was his first time there this time around.

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Speaker 1: what we've come to expect from our leaders. A message

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Speaker 1: of unity, a message of comfort as we're all grieving

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Speaker 1: right now. This is what presidents do in times of

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Speaker 1: tragic events. They bring us together. We collectively mourn. However,

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Speaker 1: President Trump took this opportunity to suggest, and some say

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Speaker 1: outright declare, that diversity hiring programs and Democrats were to

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Speaker 2: The suggestion here, and many of you already know that

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Speaker 2: DEI diversity equity and inclusion programs that are meant to

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Speaker 2: President Trump during his campaign, and he assigned several executive

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Speaker 2: orders to get any DEI program out of federal government. Fine.

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Speaker 2: His suggestion here is that ideas to increase diversity lower

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Speaker 2: His suggestion is that you now don't have the best

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say that it could potentially have

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Speaker 1: any kind of miscommunication that led to the tragedy. But

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Speaker 1: he did this, I believe fifteen, certainly less than twenty

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Speaker 2: That's a direct quote. I wanted to make sure I

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Speaker 1: The next one of the next questions was how can

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Speaker 1: you be sure that DEI is responsible or played a

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Speaker 1: role in the crash. His response to this was chilling,

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Speaker 1: He said, because I have common sense.

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Speaker 2: It was asked later in the Oval office, a reporter

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Speaker 2: shouted out to be clear, are you saying race or

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Speaker 2: gender played a role in this tragedy. The President responded,

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Speaker 2: it may have. I don't know. So it became that

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Speaker 2: back and forth. Look, we can have a debate about

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Speaker 2: So you'll hear plenty about that, folks, and we can

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Speaker 1: It certainly was. Gabbard to tell and Kennedy, we're going

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Speaker 1: we head to Capitol Hill and Gabbard, Patel and Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: Those are three of President Trump's most controversial cabinet nominees,

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Speaker 2: So let's start with Tulsea Gabbertt, a former Democratic congresswoman

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Speaker 1: She has been accused by some of being a foreign

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Speaker 1: And after yesterday's hearings, Cash Battel was referred to as

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Speaker 2: Patel has suggested he wants to dramatically limit the FBI's authority.

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Speaker 2: The commutation of any sentence of any individual who committed

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Speaker 1: And finally, it was day two of tough questions for

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Speaker 2: Yesterday's hearing was mainly focused on Kennedy's anti vaccine history

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Speaker 1: Democrats questioned Kennedy on some of his past conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 2: The Fire Aid Concert took place last night, showcase dozens

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Speaker 1: And you know what, the music is going to continue.

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Speaker 1: When you get what you want, that's God's direction. When

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Speaker 2: I think that's similar to a lot of people have

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Speaker 2: what you want, that is God's protection. Folks, We appreciate

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Speaker 1: weekend everyone,