1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: my name is Nola. 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagot. Most importantly, you 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. If you are hearing 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: this the evening it comes out, folks, let us be 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: the first to welcome you to Thursday, November seventh. We 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: are so excited to have our fellow conspiracy realist join us. 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: We're going to talk bank scandals. We're going to hear 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: a letter from a teacher. We're going to get some 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: letters from home. Before before we do any of that, 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: we are going to hear from one of the many 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: conspiracy realists who followed up with their own harrowing experiences 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: regarding our episode on abuse in the Amish community. Yeah, 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: we'll come right back with that after this quick little word. 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: And we're back. And yeah, it's been mentioned we had 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: quite a few listeners right into us about the recent 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 4: episode we did on abuse within the Amish community, and 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 4: one in particular stood out to me that I wanted 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: to share. From an Aussie listener who goes by Solar Boredom, 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: he had this to say, good day, gentlemen. I've been 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: listening for a few years now and very much enjoy 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: the information in banter you all bring to the table. 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: Even when there are topics that may not be my 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: cup of tea or may have some conflicting information, I 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: still enjoy listening to all of your takes. I just 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: want to say that you all come forward as genuinely 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: caring individuals. It's very kind if you just say a 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: Solar boredom. He goes on, I just listened to the 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: Amish abuse scandal episode, and living in Australia and only 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: really having knowledge about the Amish through television and pop 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: culture and weirdoo haha, I didn't realize that perpetrators of 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 4: abuse could reintegrate within the community after a period of shunning. 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 4: I do also wonder if any fathers or other family 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: members of a victim could then retaliate. He says, beat 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: the shit out of someone, as we would say here 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: will a Solar Boredom. We say that over here too, 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: against the abuser, and then only have to apologize and 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: then be forgiven. That's interesting. I also can't help but 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: think that if a victim of abuse were a male child, 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: then maybe the punishment might be a bit more severe. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: That is very interesting, and we'll talk about that just 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: a sec Once again, thank you for what you guys do. 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: You can use this on air if you wish, and 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: refer to me as Solar Boredom. Ps to whomever put 51 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: the random doorbell in the opening song. It makes me 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 4: laugh every time. 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: Thank you. So yeah, yeah, it's funny because guys and 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: Solar Boredom, thank you for raying in again. Noel and 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: Matt you may know this as well. I have had 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: a letter to Solar Boredom sitting in drafts by ror 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: not sending it. I got so excited when someone mentioned 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: the opening song Doorbell Cube, because the way I have 59 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: it in the draft, which you will read, Solar Boredom 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: is simply all praise due to my pal Matt Frederick. 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: He and I worked pretty closely on some odd stuff 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: and we were pretty sure we'd get the boot when 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: we started this strange endeavor and when Noel, when you 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: joined up, we just had some real gas on the fire. 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: So all praise to Matt on that. Well. 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: It also just just to point out that that was 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: the theme for the original incarnation of the show, which 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: was visual on YouTube, and in the video opening for 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: the series, there is like a creepy dude. 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: At a door, right, Matt, Well, yeah, there's a dude 71 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: in the basement. This happens to be the one that 72 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: called Ben, and he's checking out a conspiracy board and 73 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: he hears that doorbell ring, and immediately after it, the 74 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: front door opens and the logo, the show's logo that 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: used to be on a like a Manila folder falls 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: down as the door opens, and that's the reasoning behind 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: the doorbell that still exists in the old song from. 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: Six and it's a delightful easter egg that continues on 79 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: to this day. 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: And for a side note too, thank you to everybody 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: who watches our videos our original incarnation of the show. 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: As you said, just a side note, This was back 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: before the men's rights stuff ruined Trilby's and Fidoras for everyone, 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: so I was still rocking pretty cool. 85 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: And one is a minute black thing. 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, very much so, very much so. 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: Ed trench coats are right out as well. You know, 88 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: not that you. I'm just saying fashion choices that have 89 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: not history has not been kind to You're right now. 90 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm still stuck in and my glory days of the 91 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen hundreds with that stuff exactly, but to the 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: point that I think resonated with all of us here 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: the cycles of abuse. One thing that really stands out 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: about your letters, Solar Boredom is the question about male 95 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: children being abused as well. It has to be statistically inevitable, right, 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: isn't that what we discovered? 97 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly does, based on what we know about. Again, 98 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: a lot of these kind of insular communities that have 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: very specific guidelines around their sexuality and around their kind 100 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: of separation from secularism and all that stuff. You know, 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: we know that if you're kind of I guess I 102 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: don't know. It's hard, it's a tricky subject, but I 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: guess I guess I would use the term repressed slightly, 104 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: and that we see that in other situations and other 105 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: cases of abuse and whatever. The inclination of the person 106 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 4: whose sexual urges are being repressed might be that will 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: determine who they act on those repressed sexual urges toward. 108 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's a very tricky thing, and I'm not 109 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: saying everybody would ever do that. You know, like, there 110 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: certainly are going to be cases where someone has made 111 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: the choice to not live a sexual lifestyle and they're 112 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: perfectly okay with that choice. But then there are individuals 113 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: who perhaps have darker tendencies and something click, something snaps, 114 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: and it causes them to act out in this way. 115 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: M Yeah. 116 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: We see this time and time again in civilizations or 117 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: communities or societies that have repressed people's natural proclivities as 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: human beings. You need look new further than insert fundamentalist 119 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: community here. And I'm not saying fundamentalists specifically in a 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: Christian sense. I hope that's clear. But when you prevent 121 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 3: people from being human in one way or another, their 122 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: human side will still show well. 123 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: And that's not to say I'm not trying to imply 124 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 4: that the Amish community aren't allowed to have sex. That's 125 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: not the case at all. It is just an act 126 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 4: that is very specifically designed to procreate and to build 127 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: a massive family and carry on the whatever the the 128 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: legacy of this type of belief system, and of course 129 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: things like you know, queerness, any sort of you know, 130 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: attraction to same genders would be absolutely looked down upon. 131 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: So I would almost argue, then it's even more likely 132 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: that abuse on same sex individuals would be common because 133 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: of the fact that there's no other outlet for that 134 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: at all. 135 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I'll join you in this, in this 136 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: bag of badgers. It's it is quite a sticky wicket 137 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: and difficult to discuss, and I think you're absolutely nail 138 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: in it. There noal one thing we like. One other 139 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: example for a stance would be the atrocious, unclean rate 140 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: of same sex abuse in very fundamentalist parts of the 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: world like Bacibasi and A'veghan his thought which we have 142 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: discussed before, which I think uh further emphasizes your point, Bro. 143 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: Some of the allegations against P Diddy, you know, in 144 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: the in the in like the hip hop community, the 145 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: idea of like being on the down low or whatever, like, 146 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: it wasn't until very recently in that kind of culture 147 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: that folks like Tyler the Creator and Frank Ocean and 148 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 4: some of these bigger names have come out and made 149 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,479 Speaker 4: it kind of Okay to be gay. 150 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: As a. 151 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 4: Million. Of course, I did not mean to leave him out, 152 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: but you understand what I'm saying, Like, for the longest 153 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:48,479 Speaker 4: time that community was so based on masculine attitudes and actions, 154 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: and I one, you know, when you hear about things 155 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: like what R Kelly was convicted of and now the 156 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: accusations against P Diddy, many of which involved same sex abuse. 157 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: Have you seen the allegations guys of the basically the 158 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: use a term that's not real, the satanification of some 159 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: of that stuff in popular media and it being linked 160 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: to specific things of what stuff of popular music and 161 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: sexual things that are very popular right now, including somebody 162 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: like Lil nas X and you know it's weird because. 163 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: He does dry hump the devil in one of his 164 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: ideos that human. 165 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. If you're making the artistic 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: choice to include what would be considered satanic imagery in 167 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: your thing, like as a symbolic thing or whatever thing, 168 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't help your you know whatever case like, no, this. 169 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: Is satanic, seriously, like Alice Cooper and yeah, yeah, going. 170 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: Way back, Ozzy Osbourne, all that kind of stuff. 171 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: It turned out to be an awful, awful person who 172 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: probably did many of the things that he was accusing. 173 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, also beat me here, Dylan, h Brian, You're a 174 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: bad person. 175 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: Brian Brian Warner is his name, and he was not 176 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 4: the nerdy dude from the Wonder Year set, despite internet 177 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: rumor mongering. So sorry, man, please please please continue. 178 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: I guess what I mean, he says. I'm noticing, and 179 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: I think I'm just screwing with my algorithm a lot 180 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: by like specifically staying on reels for longer than I 181 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: should be to like analyze a couple of them. And 182 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: then now, my you're into that, dude, This is all 183 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: you are, right, But people who right now fully believe 184 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: that some version of Satan or you know, Horus or 185 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: Set or the Evil One or whatever this thing is 186 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: is in control of a lot of popular culture, especially 187 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: popular music. We've talked about that on the show before. 188 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: Sorry to take us down this n angle. 189 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: Here are we in a second Satanic panic? Or is 190 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: this cyclical? 191 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: It's hard because of the bubble, right, I don't know 192 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: how much I am being catered to now by that 193 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: algorithm because I watch one or two things to analyze them, 194 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: versus how much that actually exists out on the planet, 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: people really feeling that way without irony saying Satan's got 196 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: a hold of you know, everybody, including Taylor Swift and 197 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: you know, just name your popular cultural person. 198 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 4: I feel certain certain people believe that. I think there's 199 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: no question that there are people out there that believe 200 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 4: that with their whole hearts. 201 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: I would argue that demographic has grown to in part 202 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: to the algorithms mentioned earlier. 203 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: There. 204 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: We have to remember, you know, for many people this 205 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: is an argument existing in the realm of metaphor. But 206 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: for many other people, a growing number of humans, this 207 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: is not a matter of metaphor. It is a matter 208 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: of literal interference by infernal powers and the thing that 209 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: to help just level set anybody's trying to help a 210 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: loved one off the ledge there. One of the best 211 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: questions about that is, if you accept the idea of 212 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: an infernal being that that solely exists in defiance of God, 213 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: then you also inherently accept the fact or the belief 214 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: that God is an omnipresent, omniscient entity. If that is 215 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: the truth, if all things being said previously are true, 216 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: then why would you worry. 217 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: About the devil? I mean I don't know that you 218 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: need a devil with some of the interpretations of God 219 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: being as vindictive as he is. 220 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: Well, all the bath, all right, let's go with it 221 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: a dig it. 222 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: But the whole point was to bring it back to 223 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: attempting to explain the behaviors of somebody, right, like a 224 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: father in one of these communities, who does this to 225 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: their own children, a brother or a sister that does 226 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: it to their sibling. I want to reference somebody who 227 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: called in. They called in a notomously, but I just 228 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: want to give this version of it, please. I think 229 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: in our discussion it was we had a specific heart 230 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: in the show where we were discussing how could somebody 231 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: who was abused go to court and defend, like write 232 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: a letter in defense of their abuser. 233 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: Right Mary Bile's mother. 234 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were several examples given throughout that thing that 235 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: were like somebody was pushed by the community to do 236 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: something like that. Right, This anonymous person called in in tears, 237 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: I would say from the assessment, telling us about how 238 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: she was molested by her brother. But she absolutely loves 239 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: her brother and acknowledges he was abused before he abused her. 240 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: And the person that abused him, it's known was abused 241 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: by somebody older than him, oh boy, and wrote just 242 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: the complex nature of being a used by a close 243 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: family member like that. And you know, if, at least 244 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: in my case, I've been in that situation, I can't 245 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: fully empathize with the complex nature of the feelings that 246 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: would exist there. 247 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: Right. 248 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: Sure we can talk about the rage and all that things, 249 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: because I know that it would exist for sure, right, 250 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: But I don't maybe fully understand that other part, that 251 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: is this person saying I love my brother no matter 252 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: what because he went through the same horrible stuff that 253 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: I went through. 254 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: And I listen to that as well. And want to 255 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: thank you anonymous for reaching out. We respect your anonymity, 256 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: and please just know that you're helping people when you 257 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: take a stand on this stuff. 258 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: I gotta say, though, I mean, it does feel like 259 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: that is an explanation, but it's certainly not a justification. 260 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: You know, someone can have serious mental illness and issues, 261 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: and if they choose to ignore them and not seek 262 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: help or not take responsibility for their own actions and 263 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: just keep blaming it on their abuse, then you're not 264 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: breaking the cycle, and then you're just you're perpetrating it. 265 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: You're perpetuating it rather so, you know. I mean, I'm 266 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: not saying we're all imperfect beings, you know, but I 267 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: just do think after a time, there does come a 268 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: point where you have to say, I can't continue doing this. 269 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: I appreciate that though, because I think what you're doing 270 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: there is making a tremendously important point against oversimplifying these things. 271 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: They cannot be oversimplified. The human is a complex being. 272 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: Every single one is pretty unique. And we're talking about 273 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: intergenerational conspiracies of abuse, We're talking about the danger of normalization. 274 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: We're talking about things that cannot have a broad brush applied. 275 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: Because if you say that someone who was harmed at 276 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: one point will inevitably harm someone else, then we're getting 277 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: very close to a dangerously oversimplified argument. It would be 278 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: the same as saying anybody who got in a car accident, 279 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: anybody who got hit by another car is inevitably going 280 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: to hit another car years down the road. That's simply 281 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: not true. But it's as you said, it is so complex, 282 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: and the main thing to remember is that if you 283 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: have been victimized in some way, you are a survivor. 284 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: It is not your fault and the fact that you 285 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: are here this evening listening to the show. We are 286 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: immensely grateful and we are profoundly proud of you. 287 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: And just the last thing. I mean, you know, I 288 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: can understand as well the complex nature of the abused 289 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: in saying my brother, I love my brother. He is 290 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: the product of his environment. Therefore he did this thing 291 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: to me. Therefore I have to forgive him because he 292 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: did not choose to be this way. It was forced 293 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: upon him. And while I understand that thought process, I 294 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: don't think it holds water when you disconnect yourself from 295 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: the emotionality of it, you know. 296 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: What I mean, Like, I just don't I just don't know. 297 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: I guess that's a privileged position to not know, but 298 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: that's the one I find myself in. 299 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: And do you think it's a privileged position as well 300 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 4: to be the abused and to be able to decide 301 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: that that person should be forgiven? Like is it up 302 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: to society or the courts or whatever to judge that 303 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 4: person or is it up to the person who is abused? 304 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: It's oh, it's a it's a mind. 305 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: Well. 306 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: The specific things we were talking about in the show 307 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: were instances where someone was abused and they attempted to 308 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: press charges right, and in that discussion, we found that 309 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: several times those charges got lessened, you know, when the 310 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: community surrounded for support. We found that, you know, as 311 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: we said, letters of support would be written by the 312 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: person who was abused. So I don't know, man, I've 313 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: even kind of lost my train of father. 314 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, this is a very complex issue with 315 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 4: so many questions, and we do appreciate everyone that wrote 316 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: to us about especially folks that would come, you know, 317 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: to us with personal experience, and we really appreciate the 318 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: trust and honesty, and I think it's it's tremendously valuable 319 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: to anyone else listening who's been in a similar situation. 320 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 4: So we thank you with all of our hearts. And 321 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: let's take a quick break here a word from our sponsor, 322 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: and then we'll come back with some more messages from you. 323 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: And we've returned and we are jumping to the phone 324 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: lines to have a little fog roll in on this 325 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: almost still spooky season. Right. I think that's one of 326 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: the things we're going with this week. This person is 327 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: calling in, not with anything really specific, but they are 328 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: commenting on some things we recently talked about on Strange 329 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: News and they mentioned something that guys, I want to 330 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: do just a little spur of the moment analysis of 331 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: something that's mentioned. If that's okay, I've left some links 332 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: in the h in our dock and we'll go through 333 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: them together, if that's cool. So let's listen to this message. 334 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: Roles and subject matter named that bank scandal. I too, 335 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: have been caught up in more than one bank scandal. 336 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 5: I think I got like twenty some dollars out of 337 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: the Wells Fargo settlement they did a couple of years ago. 338 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: I'm just now learning about the TD bank one. I 339 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 5: remember I had to get a new bank account when 340 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 5: I bought a house. And apparently, you know, fe mobile banks, 341 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 5: you have to happen freaking margar location, which is fascinating 342 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: because so many briction Martar locations are closing because we'll, 343 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 5: you know, got to feed the shareholder comps somehow. I 344 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 5: don't know. Are we surprised that marangue behavior governs everything 345 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: and that range rules and acquisition ruined everything. That's what 346 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 5: we got. Yeah, I'm throwing cast the cyber truck chemical 347 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: factories now in Atlanta, Are you guys, all right, you 348 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 5: need a gas mask. You have one. I hope you 349 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 5: have one. I travel with one in the back of 350 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 5: my car. 351 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 4: Nice. 352 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 5: You know, apparently the only person you can us with 353 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: your safety is yourself. It doesn't matter they call themselves 354 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: for how much says claims to make. As far as 355 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 5: money goes, none of them will ever see any form 356 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 5: of justice for the horrible decisions they make that may 357 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: or may not kill hundreds of people or cause cancer 358 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 5: for hundreds of people. I don't remember the Rangy taking 359 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 5: over the planet, but man for range rules of Acquisition 360 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 5: definitely governing this planet. How do you guys feel about that? 361 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 5: Or is it just like everybody else? I'm a single 362 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 5: tear job in the ocean. What am I going to 363 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 5: do anyway? J justin, I love the show. Thank you 364 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: for what you do. And as we are not together, 365 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 5: ghost cheers. I propose by Charlie. 366 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: There we go from the Viking himself. So Viking makes 367 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: a lot of interesting points there, shouting out several things. 368 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: We can tackle them in any order. Eventually, I want 369 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: to get to the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition with you 370 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: guys and go, oh good good, We're gonna go through 371 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: them a little bit, I think, and name off some 372 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: of the rules. I've shared a link to those. But first, 373 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: what was that Ben? You said something about a gas mask. 374 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: I know we've talked about being prepared for things in 375 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: the past, right, We've talked about go bags, things to 376 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: carry in your car. We've talked about things to protect 377 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: yourself when, as Viking said, really you have to rely 378 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: on yourself when it comes to protecting yourself and anyone 379 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: else who's let's say, rolling with you in a vehicle 380 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: or staying with you in your home, just anything you 381 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: want to state. On gas masks in particular, it's. 382 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: Good to have one, it's good to have two. They're 383 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: also more affordable than we might assume. 384 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: Oh nice, okay, and we've talked about that before. If 385 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: anyone is interested in something like that, it's like the 386 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 2: stores that will sell military surplus often. 387 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 3: Yes, you can find them in your local military surplus store. 388 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, not all gas masks are created equal. 389 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: Get a new one, don't get a deal on a 390 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: used one. Look, if you could get a deal on 391 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: a used one, I'd be all about it, but it's 392 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: not going to be a good deal, which will probably 393 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: come up in a Farrangi quote later quotation, but please 394 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: check the ratings and really consider what you want it for, 395 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: because just like a water filter, not all of these 396 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: gas masks are filtering the same things. 397 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: Excellent point, excellent, excellent point. All right, So, guys, I 398 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: thought this would be kind of fun. I remember the 399 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: Farrangi as an interesting alien species that were just very 400 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: good at, i don't know, getting their way. Often there 401 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: appears to be all kinds of discussion about this specific 402 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: Star Trek alien species. 403 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: As a bit of a racist trope, right like, potentially 404 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: depending on your perspective of what country you come from. 405 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: I think it's been accused of being a stand in 406 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 4: for different races that are seen as adversarial perhaps or 407 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: like you know, known for being like meticulously capitalist. 408 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I guess how I recollect it. From watching 409 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Deep Space nine as a child, it looks like there's 410 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: been a lot of discussion after I, you know, the 411 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: Frankie kind of left my world and I just kind 412 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: of remembered them. So I'm not really sure here if 413 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: we are just making, you know, a reference to Star Trek, 414 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: or we are just talking about capitalism or what. But 415 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: I thought as a fun thing, we could go through 416 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: the stuff that Viking mentioned. They're the Ferangi rules of Acquisition, 417 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: just to see if it feels like it's our world 418 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: and not a Star Trek universe. Does that make sense? 419 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely so, if you guys don't mind pulling up the link, 420 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: we'll just go through the It's the one from the 421 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: Saint Minutia website on in our dock there. It's the Yeah, 422 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: it's st it's Star Trek Minutia. It's a great website. 423 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: St Dashmnusia dot com, and it has the entirety of 424 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: the canon rules of acquisition here. 425 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 4: We're not gonna go through all five hundred of these though, 426 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 4: are no. 427 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 2: I thought it would be fun to just like randomly 428 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: say yeah, so the format I imagined guys would be 429 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: like this. Rule one, once you have their money, never 430 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: give it back. I don't know that makes sense to me. 431 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. 432 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: Rule three, never pay more for an acquisition than you 433 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: have to. 434 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: I mean that's just good business, right right right? 435 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 436 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: Going off this list, which is I think roughly canonical, 437 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 3: you'll notice, as student listeners at skips number two, there 438 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: are two competing Number two's so we'll just go to 439 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: number six, skipping four and five. Never family to stand 440 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: in the way of opportunity. 441 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, got to put profits or family for sure. 442 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: Although the reason why it does this, guys, is because 443 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: in the show, like somebody will state that that's rule 444 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: number X or whatever you know, of the rules of acquisition. 445 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: And this this list, this list cites the episodes they 446 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: come from as well. Yeah, and which series. 447 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: So theoretically nobody ever said what rule four was. 448 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: And you can go to like other articles where they 449 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: cite more things. And that's because some of these things 450 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: get referenced in novels as well as the TV show. 451 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 4: Guys, having not seen any of these episodes, how do 452 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: they put it? They go rule number one of the 453 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 4: the Ferengi rule of the acquisition, and then they say. 454 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: This is it something along those lines, because in the 455 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: books you also see you also see it mentioned as 456 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: you know, kind of like when people are following a 457 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: religion and they rationalize what they're doing by citing scripture. Yeah, yeah, 458 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: so that's why would occur organically we would say, mmmm, 459 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: at least that's my take. 460 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's great. I like rule sixteen. A deal is 461 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: a deal until a better one comes along. 462 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: Rule ten greed is eternal. How is that a rule? 463 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that Isn't that just seems like an observation. 464 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really. 465 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I do have Rule seven though, because 466 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: as I mentioned that, I believe the design of these characters, 467 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: they do have quite massive ears, and this rule is 468 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: keep your ears open, which I think maybe was a 469 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: little bit of a joke. I don't know, it's funny. 470 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: Hmm, okay. Rule number forty. She can touch your lobes, 471 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: but never your latinum. It is a latinum latins your 472 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: lobes sounds dirty. Latinum is fascinating. It's this fictational, like 473 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: almost mercury looking, liquid metal thing that is worth just 474 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: so many credits, and it's highly highly coveted. It's awesome. 475 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: It looks really cool. You can see it displayed in 476 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: like a glass sometimes. 477 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: Number one twelve, never have sex with the boss's sister, 478 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 3: follow by number one thirteen, always have sex with the boss. 479 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: Hey, there you go. It sounds like a cult to me. Well, anyway, 480 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: there's a whole list here. I don't even know how 481 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: many there are, guys, because again, they don't go by 482 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: the numbers. They are just you know, a lot, but 483 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: you know they're amazing. More is good, all is better. 484 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: That's rule number two forty two. Boom. 485 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: How many new rules are there, matt I. 486 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: I'm at least down to rule two eighty nine that 487 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: I have seen, So that's a lot. Hopefully there's a book. 488 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a rule Fengi acquisition book like that. 489 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: Oh, there has to be. 490 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 4: There has to be. 491 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: Yes, you can't free a fish from water. 492 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: Huh. 493 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's rule two seventeen. Oh, this is the one. Guys. 494 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don't 495 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: hesitate to step on them. That's from rule to eleven. 496 00:27:59,720 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: Wow. 497 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah. And so maybe the argument is that this 498 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: is a hyper capitalistic sci fi depiction of things that 499 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: are followed in capitalism. 500 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. So just the imagined 501 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: ideas of capitalism run amok to the point where that 502 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: is the only thing that is important, right, Profits over 503 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: any creature, over health, over any family, and literally anything. 504 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: Profits are the one thing that you chase, and that's it. 505 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: And you know, we've talked before in this show about 506 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: how we're in a system that is kind of set 507 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: up that way with open markets, right, publicly traded markets. 508 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: The way it functions, it's just kind of what it does. 509 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: That's what it was designed for, and it does. I 510 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: don't know, it makes me uncomfortable. I'm sure it makes 511 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 2: a lot of people uncomfortable, including our color Viking. 512 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: There. 513 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: I guess the important thing maybe here is to when 514 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: you're thinking of this and the negativity of it, is 515 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: to point it the system if you're going to be 516 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: and if you're feeling negative about it, because it is 517 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: the system itself, and it was designed to do exactly 518 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: what it's doing, and that is kind of the thing. 519 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't know that causes me a lot of anxiety 520 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: when I think about what happened with that chemical plant. 521 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: As Viking said, what happened with you know, these banks 522 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: that just decided we're going to allow drug profiteers to 523 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: launder their money however long and however much they want. 524 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: I mean, all of those things are kind of true. 525 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: Right We're we're not too far away from Conyers, where 526 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: it appears that although this huge chemical league did not 527 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: kill a bunch of people, yet, it appears that they 528 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: were able to get away with cutting corners at the 529 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: very least. Would we agree with that? 530 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure, guys. Rule number one 531 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: seventy seven is know your enemies, but do business with 532 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: them all always right here, all trust nothing. That's rule 533 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: one ninety amazing. 534 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: Another ear joke. 535 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: There goes another ear joke. Sleep can interfere with your 536 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: lust for latinum. 537 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: That's the expensive currency. 538 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't sleep, it's gonna interfere. 539 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: There are there are things too that come from these 540 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: weird like I'm looking through different sources of this, and 541 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: the the listed things often you know, jump around. For instance, 542 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: there is no rule two ninety five that we can find. 543 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: But the very last rule I see is four thirty one, 544 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: uh and two ninety nine. Two ninety nine from Star 545 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: Trek Voyager is whenever you exploit someone, it never hurts 546 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: to thank them. That way, it's easier to exploit them 547 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: the next time. It sounds yeah, and then four thirty one, 548 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, it sounds pretty missions specific. When the 549 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: shooting starts, let the mercenaries handle it. 550 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: That's smart, that's just smart thinking. 551 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: I guess, good business for the merks. 552 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, man. 553 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Rule number two fifty five A wife is a luxury. 554 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: A smart accountant is a necessity. 555 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: And not all of this age as well, is one 556 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: of the females and finance don't mix. 557 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: Ooh, there you go. The world has been a lot 558 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: of different things a lot of the time, and we learn. 559 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: As we go. 560 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: All right, so that's it for this piece of listener mail. 561 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with one more message from you. 562 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: And we've returned. We'll keep this short with just a 563 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: few letters from home because as we're recording, it is 564 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: almost Halloween here, so we have octivigation on the way. 565 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: We'll give a brief shout out to our Facebook book group. 566 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: Here's where it gets crazy. As we mentioned in the past, 567 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: we often ask our fellow listeners to give us one 568 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: host name or a joke when you sign up for 569 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: the Facebook page. And I thought it'd be fun just 570 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: to share two of those really quickly. Here's one from Jeremy. 571 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: Jeremy says Ben Matt Nole. I wanted to do something cute, 572 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: but I just want to get here. While I'm thinking 573 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: about it, I found the show by a subject search 574 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: on Anunaki. I think let's pause there. Do we remember 575 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 3: the Anu Naki? Weren't they like the fallen angels. 576 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: I always get Nefhlim and Annaki weirdly intertwined. I always 577 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: thought Nephelim were the combination of whatever the Anunaki were 578 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: and humans. 579 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, wait, Ananaki or the ancient Sumerian deities right? 580 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, man, I don't know. I have to look 581 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: it up. 582 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: Religious syncrets strikes again, and so Annaki inspired Jeremy to 583 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: reach out to us, and Jeremy says, since then, I 584 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: went back to the start and I've been listening in 585 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: order for about a yearish. I just started the first 586 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: episode of twenty nineteen. I love knowing now what we 587 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: didn't know back then, and I'm just waiting for it 588 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: to come back up in a future episode. Love you guys. 589 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: Oh and I'm starting Ridiculous History today. 590 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 4: Ah sweet. 591 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: So thank you for that letter from home, Jeremy. We 592 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: hope you enjoy it. We also we also have a 593 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: bit of a time capsule experience ourselves when we look 594 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: back at classic episodes that we're republishing, like our Vaccines 595 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: Fact and Fiction episode. Did you guys listen back to that? 596 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 4: Nope, it's a ride. 597 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: It's definitely pre pandemic. 598 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: It was well, yeah, we talked about it. It was 599 00:33:54,760 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: mostly about anti vaccine movements when it came to like 600 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: people who were all in on the belief that maybe 601 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: there was a connection to the autism spectrum, like with vaccinations, 602 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: and I think a lot of the vaccination from the past, 603 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: But that's pre that's well pre code nineteen stuff, right, yes, yeah. 604 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can tell we weren't sure what was coming, 605 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: but just like in our previous Superbug episode, we noted 606 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 3: the statistical inevitability of this. We also want to give 607 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: a big shout out to Taylor, who joined us on 608 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 3: Facebook by saying, you guys are my favorite homies who 609 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: don't know they're my homies. Do you guys have homies 610 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: that don't know their homies? 611 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: I mean there are a lot of podcasters that have 612 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: no idea that I feel like they're my best friends. 613 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 2: So yeah, I identify with that a lot. 614 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right there with you, Taylor. Also, while we're 615 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: just keeping this for light letters from home, galle heavy 616 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 3: there for a moment, I thought I was talking with 617 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: our Tennessee pal Dylan Fagan off air, and this is 618 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 3: just a fun Halloween conversation sort of off the rip 619 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: you guys went trick or treating as children, right. 620 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm going trick or treating tomorrow as we record. 621 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: This has broken the illusion. 622 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: Sorry, So what is the weirdest thing you guys got 623 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 3: when you were trick or treating? 624 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 4: You know you asked this earlier and I nothing comes 625 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: to mind. I'm thinking of, like don't some people give 626 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: out like fruit or something. I don't know, like, oh yeah, 627 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 4: nothing really major. I don't know. Maybe you guys, You 628 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 4: guys experience is different. 629 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was a kid, there are a couple 630 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: of houses when I was little. Wow, I can't believe 631 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: I remember this. There are a couple of houses that 632 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: would give away home baked goods as like the. 633 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 4: Thing that's nice I would fly today. It is just 634 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 4: people are freaked out about that kind of I thought 635 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: it was a treat. 636 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: I remember specifically lemon bars, like like that's why I 637 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: love lemon bar today. 638 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: I think with a little crumbly stuff on top. 639 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like in plastic wrap, just you know, just 640 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: wrapped it up and put it in there. 641 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 4: And I was like, have you guys seen all the 642 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: memes or it's like make sure to check your Halloween candy. 643 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 4: I found the entire Urukai Army inside this Snickers barn, 644 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 4: you know, and and various things of that. 645 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 3: Nation really got Trojan Horst. 646 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: What's the uk Army? 647 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 4: What's that? You know? From the Lord of the Rings. 648 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 4: They're the real batties, the bad Orcs, the Omega, the 649 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 4: Mega Orcs. 650 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we didn't real pop culture. 651 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 4: But in the image for the meme, it's it's a 652 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: cross section of a Snickers with a tiny shot of 653 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: that scene where they're like amassing. 654 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 3: And Dylan has a great story as forward. We may 655 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: not share it on air. I'll give you one. For 656 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: two years in a row, there was a very wealthy 657 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 3: guy in the neighborhood who had big fun, uncle energy 658 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: and quite a long driveway, and again two consecutive years, 659 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 3: instead of candy, he was clearly having like an adult 660 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 3: party during the Halloween evening and he would give us 661 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: lottery tickets, one lottery ticket and one condom each. WHOA, yeah, I. 662 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 4: Don't know if that go over well in certain communities. 663 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 3: He didn't go over well at the time, to be honest. 664 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 4: I just you know, a lottery ticket and it would 665 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: be considered like a vice that tantamount to giving out 666 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: cigarettes and liquor something. 667 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was probably that was probably another thing he 668 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: would have done. But I want to thank I want 669 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: to thank my mother for being so diplomatic. You could 670 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: tell she was a teacher. She took one look at 671 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 3: this prophylactic and then said, oh, that's candy for adults 672 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: and took it away. And then my dad said. 673 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 4: No, let him keep it. Was it a flavored propylactic? 674 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I did not see it for long. 675 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 3: Just mystify. Please please follow the rules of the road 676 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: when you're giving kids candy and don't eat. 677 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: I know they look delicious, but they're they're not good. 678 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: There are forever chemicals in many of those propotactics. 679 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: So yes, exactly. And with this we're going to end 680 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 3: a little bit late with uh with some Halloween jokes 681 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: from our pal Humorous Harry. Remember we forget Yeah, he's 682 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 3: in a menace he is. He is one of our 683 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 3: favorite menaceesn menci uh. So Humorous Harry says, oh God, 684 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 3: these are bad. How can you keep that part in? 685 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 3: How can you tell that Frankenstein's monster is in love? 686 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 4: Hold on something about his neck bolts? 687 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't know close he falls to pieces? Does he know? 688 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 2: I guess he's made of pieces? 689 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 4: He does, though in the cannon of Frank is sign 690 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 4: he usually doesn't like fall apart though, like humpty dumpty. 691 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 3: Yeah right, because he's sewn together. So yeah, here's one. 692 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: Here's one that I bet we can guess. What do 693 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 3: you call a wolf that is lost? 694 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 4: A lone wolf? You got it? What is it? 695 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: You got it? 696 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 2: You always say it? Where wolf? 697 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: It's like the witch? Witch is you know what I mean? Whitch? 698 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 3: What is an apparition's favorite food? 699 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: Oh? 700 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 3: Hold on, Oh you got this? 701 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 4: No I don't. 702 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 3: It's something for people who like things spicy. 703 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: Oh, there could be this is several. It could be 704 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: a reaper. 705 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well done, Well done, you guys. You guys both 706 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 3: got one. 707 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 4: It was a pretty good clue though. Man, well I 708 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 4: didn't get all the way there. 709 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: Thank you. No, no, you got there. Why are vampires 710 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 3: so good at baseball? Because they bring their own bats? Dylan, 711 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: I hope you're putting some weird rim shots. And after 712 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 3: each of these we are going to call it an evening. 713 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 3: Thank you so much to everybody who wrote in, or 714 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 3: called or contacted us online. Thanks to Jeremy Taylor, Viking, 715 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: Solar Boredom, and of course Anonymous. If you would like 716 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 3: to join the show, we'd love to hear from you. 717 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 3: We try to be easy to find so many ways. 718 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, do we ever, and we hopefully succeed you. 719 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 4: We'd like to think so. You can find us at 720 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 4: the handle of Conspiracy Stuff, where we exist on Facebook 721 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 4: with our Facebook group Here's where it gets crazy, as 722 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 4: well as on x FKA, Twitter and on YouTube with 723 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 4: video content galore for your perusing enjoyment, on Instagram and TikTok. However, 724 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 4: we are Conspiracy Stuff Show. 725 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 2: Do you want to let the fog roll in? Viking? 726 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 4: Did? 727 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 2: Why not call one eight three three st d w 728 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: y t K when you call in? Don't say the 729 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: fog rolls in because that's Viking sync. But make up 730 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: your own catchphrase introduction statement. 731 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 4: I know we're way past Halloween at this point, but 732 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 4: I's okay again, Peak Pine. The current is not Halloween yet, 733 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 4: irl Right now, have you guys seen the John Carpenter 734 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 4: movie The Fog about spooky ghost pirates. 735 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: Sure not to be confused with the mist. 736 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 4: That's right, The mist is different. The fog is pretty schlocky, 737 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 4: but it's a lot of fun. 738 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: Well I need to check that out. I haven't seen 739 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 2: it yet. The mist really liked, i'd liked. I actually 740 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: liked the movie adaptation of that. Seriously bummer ending yep yep. 741 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: So when you call in, make up your cool catchphrase, 742 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: give yourself a cool name so we can put your name. 743 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: If you're comfortable, sure, whatever, We're gonna put it in 744 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: our system so we know when you call in again, 745 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: and we can keep track of you. No, it's just 746 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 2: so we can we can know our correspondence. We want 747 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,479 Speaker 2: you to be a part of the show, like for real, 748 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: call that number, do all that stuff. Then you've got 749 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: three minutes say whatever you'd like. 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