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Speaker 1: It's Friday, I ain't got shit to do. You might

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Speaker 1: Today we have a couple topics of what's been going

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Speaker 1: Card Minute and Aussi ballbags everywhere. Luke, tell the fine

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Speaker 4: You guys are playing for the loser has to buy

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Speaker 1: No no, no, A pregame preview, Oh, pregame preview.

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Speaker 1: your calendars there. I mean, Luke, could you imagine rolling

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Speaker 1: Luke just rethought that the future of his life. That's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: We did sign that contract in blood and other fluids there,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, my alone here. Look

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Speaker 1: All right. I saw you by the way on that

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Speaker 1: Dylan Klepper Comedy Central special. Well done, Luke.

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Speaker 2: You mean Jordan Clipper?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of those two clippers you know wherever they

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Speaker 2: I am alive today. I actually, if you can believe this,

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Speaker 1: Well, we were sad and out of ideas what to

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Speaker 1: the Brian Gambell experience holds up very well. There's our

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Speaker 1: So Luke, let's face it. This fight is a soap

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Speaker 2: None of you are at the end of your rope.

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Speaker 2: be like, well, why do we wait this long to

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Speaker 2: begin with? You could have done this months ago, right,

433
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Speaker 2: So you don't really get out of this problem in

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Speaker 2: that particular scenario. So that's the first thing I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 2: Second of all, I think that these guys are feeling

436
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Speaker 2: the heat. I think they're feeling the heat both in

437
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Speaker 2: the general malaise and the product. And I think they're

438
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Speaker 2: feeling the heat in these contract negotiations. Do When they

439
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Speaker 2: went to ESPN the first time, those things happened like

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Speaker 2: right away. They made it in and out almost immediately,

441
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Speaker 2: from one television deal to the other. That's not what's

442
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Speaker 2: happening here. They had a negotiated window that was exclusive

443
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Speaker 2: to ESPN that expired. Now we're in the non exclusive one.

444
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Speaker 2: And please don't mis understand me. I think they're gonna

445
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Speaker 2: sign in the end what's going to be considered a

446
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Speaker 2: lucrative deal that will be worth much more than the

447
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Speaker 2: last one. But if this was going swimmingly, they would

448
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Speaker 2: have bottled it already, or I should say quite the opposite,

449
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Speaker 2: they would they would have handled it already. It would

450
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Speaker 2: have been done. I think we're in a bit of

451
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Speaker 2: a different position here where people are saying, oh, there

452
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Speaker 2: are they trying to save John versus Tom for the

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Speaker 2: next fight deal. Well, that would mean putting it into

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. I don't think that's likely. But the

455
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Speaker 2: appearance of being unable to make big fights. The reality

456
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Speaker 2: of something like this falling through, especially if you can't

457
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Speaker 2: put the blame on John, this would be a terrible

458
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Speaker 2: look at a very critical moment in this organization's future.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think they're not really making this move.

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Speaker 2: They don't have the cards, they don't have the same

461
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Speaker 2: amount of leverage that they typically enjoy, and so they

462
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Speaker 2: have to kind of eat this in between, spot me

463
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Speaker 2: see until we get to a later date.

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Speaker 1: But it makes them look double worse in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: with this much silence. And I think what you just

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Speaker 1: said is true. I just wrote a column yesterday at

467
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Speaker 1: CBS Sports about this that, you know, for all that

468
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Speaker 1: talk about hey Zoe, what boxing is and isn't these days,

469
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Speaker 1: and you know Dana railing against it for years, it's

470
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Speaker 1: not an original thought to this show and this microphone

471
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Speaker 1: me saying they've become boxing. But when you package together us,

472
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Speaker 1: it's not like one big super fight slipped through the cracks.

473
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Speaker 1: And it's not like you don't have them on sobs

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Speaker 1: in the monopoly. Oh actually you do. So now it's

475
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Speaker 1: Jones and Ghano. We didn't get Jones aspinall, we're fighting

476
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Speaker 1: to get Elia versus Islam. We didn't get Connor versus Chandler.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get despite a similar sort of four year

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Speaker 1: bill that felt like to that one. And I'm not

479
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Speaker 1: saying each of those fights on its own saves the

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Speaker 1: day or is the biggest thing ever. But this is

481
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Speaker 1: becoming a bad trend. So maybe you're right, Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like John didn't know this was

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Speaker 1: going to be the next fight when he beat Steepey November.

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Speaker 2: So may I say one more thing, BC?

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Speaker 1: Please avoid that you know, more buttholes being shown on

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Speaker 1: this guy?

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Speaker 2: Yes, are you next? Are we going to see the

488
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Speaker 2: BC's butthole?

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Speaker 1: Is that f in Friday's Luca right?

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Speaker 2: F and find out here here's the other thing that

491
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Speaker 2: just deserves to be said. And there's not really enough

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Speaker 2: of a I don't know. I don't think there's been

493
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Speaker 2: enough acknowledgment of it. The first time that they tried

494
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Speaker 2: to book the miochicch fight, it was stupid, and then

495
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Speaker 2: John gets injured, and I remember after that I was like,

496
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Speaker 2: this is your chance. Oops, let me turn this. I

497
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Speaker 2: got this thing off like that. This is your chance

498
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Speaker 2: to walk away. This is the UFC's chance to walk

499
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Speaker 2: away and people be like, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: You're just going to cancel the fight. Yes, that is

501
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Speaker 2: exactly what you had to do, because look where it

502
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Speaker 2: got us. It gave John a bullshit fight against a

503
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Speaker 2: guy who had absolutely no business being in there, with

504
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Speaker 2: him being in there really with anybody at that point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the reality of where Stipe was. And

506
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Speaker 2: now we have to delay the fight that was supposed

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Speaker 2: to have been made yet basically another freaking year. If

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Speaker 2: you had never made that Stepe fight and you had

509
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Speaker 2: made the deadline for John versus Tom last November three

510
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Speaker 2: h nine, we're never in this position to begin with.

511
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Speaker 2: All of the boosters of the Jones Bochiic fight, you

512
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Speaker 2: are the architects of this mess. You helped contribute to

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Speaker 2: this stupid scenario that we're in, where we're now playing

514
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Speaker 2: this very frustrating and annoying waiting game for a possibility

515
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Speaker 2: that might not even emerge long term. All for what,

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Speaker 2: So John could beat up a guy who should have

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Speaker 2: never been in the octagon, not merely with him, but

518
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Speaker 2: with anybody ranked anywhere in the top fifteenth of the

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Speaker 2: WEE tell me congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Aspinall versus Stepe while John was out and then John

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Speaker 1: fight's the winner. That's what you have to do when

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Speaker 1: injuries like the one that happened to John happened that

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Speaker 1: put him out a year. I'm not saying you had

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Speaker 1: to strip them. They didn't do that, but they didn't

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Speaker 1: have to do that, but they could have moved this

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Speaker 1: division along. Now it's it's it's see at the end

527
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Speaker 1: of the day, even if this gets made, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter whose fault it was. It doesn't matter who's fault.

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Speaker 1: Right now, everybody looks bad. I hope from their sake

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Speaker 1: they can save it. But to act like right now,

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Speaker 1: there isn't a problem in combat sports with three letters,

532
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Speaker 1: And it's not the UFC luke what by proxy it is,

533
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: but it's TKO. I mean, like, look at this debacle

534
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Speaker 1: with Turkey and Canelo Crawford that they're not talking about.

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Speaker 1: No one knows what's going on. Now we got this

536
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Speaker 1: Aspinal Jones thing they're not talking about. No one knows

537
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Speaker 1: what's going on. Then ww WHI wash already announced next

538
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Speaker 1: year's WrestleMania would be in New Orleans, just suddenly changes

539
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Speaker 1: that and they're gonna go back to Vegas for the

540
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Speaker 1: second straight year and New Orleans is like what the

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Speaker 1: f and people are like, are you doing to make

542
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Speaker 1: good with Allegiance because you may have lost that Netflix

543
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Speaker 1: Craws Canelo like, there's just like this look TKO is

544
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Speaker 1: the worst thing to happen to combat sports since CTE.

545
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Speaker 1: But we already knew that. But there's still time to

546
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Speaker 1: get your shit together here, especially with this giant TV

547
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Speaker 1: deal up next. If you can't play the hits, which

548
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Speaker 1: should it be in my opinion, automatic making the biggest

549
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: and best fights happen, or if you can't make it,

550
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Speaker 1: move on in a timely manner to the next big

551
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Speaker 1: one rather than doing exactly this a Mayweather Pachio like

552
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Speaker 1: soap opera that it's going nowhere, Luke, And it's embarrassing

553
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Speaker 1: And are we just haters here or do we rely

554
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Speaker 1: a certain part of our income on this great promotion

555
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Speaker 1: being a great promotion. Yeah, some of that's true too,

556
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Speaker 1: So get your shit together, please, let's go stop jacking

557
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Speaker 1: up prices. What is it seven hundred dollars to sit

558
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Speaker 1: in the nosebleeds at three eighteen to watch a Marvin

559
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Speaker 1: Vctori Brendan Allen Co main event? Yeah, it is right now.

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Speaker 1: That's literally where we're at right now. This is all connected, Luke,

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Speaker 1: So why don't I ask you the other thing connected

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Speaker 1: with the fans' anger today, which is we think no

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Speaker 1: Cha is going on? We think we think no Cha

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Speaker 1: is going on in Wadalajara the same day now as

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Speaker 1: Canello Crawford, even though Danny Segura is tweeting that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Arena is canceling every event right now and isn't

567
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Speaker 1: gonna be up until like a week before that show.

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Speaker 1: But we have no public on the record about that either,

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Speaker 1: because Dana got on his private jet at the end

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Speaker 1: of three fifteen and didn't talk to the media again.

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Speaker 1: So what about this mosar Evloyev thing? In Noche? Volkanovski's

572
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Speaker 1: the champ and it looks like all signs are pointing

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Speaker 1: to a rematch against Yai Rodriguez, a guy he dominated

574
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Speaker 1: and knocked out. The stats that you can really that

575
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Speaker 1: you can read related to this are are hella damning.

576
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Speaker 1: But they could have probably done a hot comaine of

577
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Speaker 1: hot blood of Diego Lopez here against Yair who he hates,

578
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Speaker 1: and then done Volkanovsky mosar Evloyev in the main event

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here with this? Is this defendable?

580
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Speaker 1: Is this forgivable? Is this no check card even gonna happen? Luke?

581
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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a few things that you're asking there,

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Speaker 2: but let's sort of unpack it. First of all, the

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Speaker 2: guy who asked the question to I think it was

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Speaker 2: Dave Shaw following the last card in Mexico is Rodrigo

587
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Speaker 2: del Campo. He's out of Claro Sports and I'm saying

588
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Speaker 2: it the most gringified way here, but he's out of

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Speaker 2: Claudo Sports in Mexico. He had asked them because he

590
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Speaker 2: had known that there was shows being canceled left and

591
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Speaker 2: right from that Guadalajara venue, and in fact, BC, I

592
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, they've canceled all events

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Speaker 2: all the way up through September fourth. You might be saying, well,

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Speaker 2: when's UFC three twenty schedule for that venue September thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: And they've already scheduled, They've already canceled everything all the

596
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Speaker 2: way up to September fourth, nine days before that. This

597
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Speaker 2: seems ominous to begin with. So that's partly an issue there.

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Speaker 2: But Rodrigo had brought up an interesting point, but I

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Speaker 2: think is quite correct. He's basically arguing, like the Mexican

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Speaker 2: roster as it stands is simply not really prepared to

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Speaker 2: host a pay per view if you want to have

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Speaker 2: like Mexican stars at the top of it. It just

603
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Speaker 2: doesn't really make a lot of sense that it should

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Speaker 2: have been a fight night. And if it was a

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Speaker 2: fight night, you could have just put Yayir versus Diego

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Speaker 2: at the top of it and it's done. Deal. Have

607
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Speaker 2: a pay per view with Mozar and and Vulk somewhere else,

608
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Speaker 2: and you're in great shape at that point. But they're

609
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Speaker 2: trying to combine everything and it simply doesn't make a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense. Now, I am open to the argument

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Speaker 2: that Mosar is, without question the number one contender. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is this is not even debatable, right like this,

613
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: this is the guy if we're talking about meritocracy. However,

614
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Speaker 2: he is a largely anonymous and unknown figure to anyone

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Speaker 2: except the hardest of hardcore fans. So I could at

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Speaker 2: least understand the UFC having some trepidation about it. But

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Speaker 2: the problem is, Dude, Yayer is utterly undeserving of this opportunity,

618
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Speaker 2: and I'm okay with guys getting main events in their

619
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Speaker 2: hometowns or their home countries, certainly where it makes a

620
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Speaker 2: lot of sense. But just giving him a fight that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't deserve because they have to match a pay

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Speaker 2: per view demand in a market that they put themselves

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Speaker 2: on to to match these uh, basically, you know, too

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Speaker 2: lofty of a standard given the realities is ludicrous.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you yeah, it's a problem AF problem,

626
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Speaker 1: it's not a nuts problem. You guys did that to yourselves.

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Speaker 2: BC. The first fight is not competitive. I implore everyone

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Speaker 2: to go watch that.

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Speaker 1: Let me read these quick stats that Ben the Bayin

630
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Speaker 1: Davis tweeted out. Yeah, here Rodriguez is one in three

631
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Speaker 1: in his last four fights. Two of those he lost

632
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Speaker 1: by stoppage. One of those was him getting crushed and

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Speaker 1: knocked out in the third round by Volkanowski in a

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Speaker 1: title fight, and the one win to get here was

635
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Speaker 1: a victory over thirty seven year old Patricio Pipple, who

636
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Speaker 1: was making his UFC debut. On the flip side, most Ivloyev,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be fighting in the summer, by the way,

638
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Speaker 1: and getting skipped over in Abu Dhabi at a fight

639
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Speaker 1: night before maybe getting the next title shot. He's nine

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Speaker 1: to zero in the UFC. I know he's boring his

641
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: shit to some people, but he's got wins over number two,

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Speaker 1: Diego Lopez, number six, Arnold Allen, number nine, the former

643
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Speaker 1: champion in al Jo, and how about number fourteen Dan

644
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Speaker 1: Igay and he's not getting a title shot. So look,

645
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: is this similar to Roundtree getting the call because Poton

646
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: had beaten everybody else? Uh No, it doesn't really feel

647
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: like that. I get that they're not in the most

648
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: perfect position except for you actually are you have a

649
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: guy who's nine to oh, he's a number one Cottender

650
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: nine and oh and beat all these ranked guys like

651
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: let's go. Does Volkanovsky not sell as a as a

652
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: pay per view main event? If you put like I

653
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: mentioned that Lopez I eir fight in the comane and

654
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: load the card up with nationals, I think it still sells.

655
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: It's not like they're trying to jack up the main

656
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: and comines lately. So outside of also some big moments

657
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: this summer.

658
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: Also another problem is, like you know, back when the

659
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: UFC was making schedules again, you know they put they

660
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: put Crews versus TJ in Boston, and you can say

661
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: what another They made a lot of sounds great fight obviously,

662
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: but it's a great card. But the point I'm trying

663
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: to make is, uh, fuck, I forgot my goddamn train

664
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: of thought about this whole fucking shit. I'm sorry, BC,

665
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: I forgot all right.

666
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: When you said train, I'm like, do you mean drops

667
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: of Jupiter or Osborne? Which way?

668
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Oh I was gonna say this. I was gonna say

669
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: this though, like to the point where it could have

670
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: been a pay per view down to a fight night.

671
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, one thing that's really missing I think from

672
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: the UFC these days, BC is like creating a platform

673
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: for things to happen, right, And yeah, they're doing press

674
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: conferences and everything, but it's all very formulaic. They're not

675
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: doing any kind of white gloves special treatment for anything.

676
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: And sometimes when things pop off, they're just not letting.

677
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 2: They're not catching that wave and surfing it. So for example,

678
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: we all saw what happened between Diego and Yair, Like,

679
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: you can't tell me that the Mexican fans would reject

680
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: that as a main event. You simply cannot, And you

681
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: cannot tell me that the American fans would, or any

682
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: fans in Europe or really fans anywhere. You can't do that.

683
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: But what's kind of interesting bec is they're not like

684
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: they when they have an ability to book places whenever

685
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: they want, but they're a little bit more beholden to

686
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: going to places when they get paid to go. So

687
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: could they just go and again make nocha UFC a

688
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: fight night, then take Vulk back to Australia at some

689
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: point in that month and have mosts are travel what

690
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: mosts are going to say, I'm not gonna travel. Of

691
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: course he's going to fucking travel, right, so that you

692
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: can easily make that fight. But do they want to

693
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: go back to Australia when they've already got a bit

694
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: of a set calendar based on what various government agencies

695
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: or tourism boards New South Wales included but not limited

696
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: to only them are paying them for right, We've already

697
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: we're going to go to Australia on these dates because

698
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: they're paying for us at these times, rather than giving

699
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: yourself the flexibility to go when it makes sense for

700
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: a main event or a particular matchup or a moment

701
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: in time. And so all of these sort of fixed

702
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: ways of doing business, these fixed ways to meet content demand,

703
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: reduces the flexibility that they need to match the reality

704
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: on their roster.

705
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and if they can't, they're showing that they're

706
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: so despite being so far ahead financially, they're so far

707
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: behind when it comes to the combination of matchmaking and

708
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: storytelling and actually planning things out. Everything seems to be

709
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: a last minute bundle throw together. From UFC three hundred

710
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: last year to the way that the UFC three fifteen

711
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: main event instantly dictated the summer schedule. Luke, it's I'm

712
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: really not trying to like dunk in tea bag for

713
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: the sake of you know, of clicks or what else

714
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: do we have to talk about in a Friday. It's

715
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: really legit concern, like this goes beyond we figured out

716
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: how to beat the game financially, and it's just us

717
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: against us, and we're just tinkering with new ways of

718
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: putting money in our shareholders' pockets. This is like, you're

719
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: fucking this up and you're making it not as fun anymore.

720
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: And it looks like you can polish up a few

721
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: different things and raise the morale pretty easily if you

722
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: wanted to. So let's get back to that, because it

723
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: is a fertile time. You've got the TV deal coming up, Like,

724
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: let's get back to that. Make it about the fights,

725
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: the fighters and the storylines first in the schedule. In

726
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, will will right itself in that regard,

727
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: or or put a little more thought into how this

728
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: is working. And I know it's not easy, and there's injuries,

729
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: and guys don't want to fight other guys. I know that,

730
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: But you have a monopoly. You have an insane amount

731
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: of money. You have all the ingredients to make the meal,

732
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Speaker 1: make the freaking meal.

733
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got more money than any combat sports promoter

734
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: in the history of combat sports. This should not be

735
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: that difficult.

736
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Uh Lou quickly on where Jones is in Thailand.

737
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: It is that MMA Russian show. It turned into it.

738
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: It turned into a hell of a shit show there

739
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: of Nate Diaz getting involved in a fight. Jake Shields

740
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: played back the thing. I mean, it's it's I guess

741
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: it's what you expect from those type of shows. But

742
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: uh yeah, John Jones did put out a video explaining it.

743
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: But look, we could just move on. Yeah, who cares,

744
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Speaker 1: Let's get a happier territory there like the fantastic partners

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Speaker 1: now it's time to get back into the fights and

775
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: topic number two. We design this to put a smile

776
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: on your face. All right, let's talk about what we

777
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: do have this summer scheduled out in terms of fights

778
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: that were already announced. Here when you look ahead over

779
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: the next three months, Luke, which previously announced UFC fight

780
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: has you the most excited? We're gonna rank each of

781
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: them from five to one, and we're gonna alternate. Luke,

782
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: So why don't you, of fights that are already booked,

783
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: tell me your number five and why you're so fired up?

784
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: May I call it very quick, audible quick one. We

785
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: have a pretty similar list from five to one, So

786
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: if I may very quickly, I'll just quickly go through it.

787
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 2: I have five honorable mentions that don't make I think

788
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: your list or my list, but are actually primo fights

789
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: to look forward to. Yes, all right, here we go

790
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: BC again in no particular actually this is in like

791
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: chronological order essentially. UFC three sixteen Gasoline Pifer. I'm actually

792
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: very excited about that fight in maybe Cal.

793
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: Do you think Gasolam will be fighting with a heavy

794
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: shoulder and the pulse of the Mexican national fan base

795
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: after Pifer just ripped it heal promo on that country

796
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: and said he's never coming back. I know Gaslom is

797
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: a Mexican American, but you know, we can get some

798
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: old school WWF nationalistic storylines in this show.

799
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was partly racism too, not just nationalism,

800
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: but who knows. All right, UFC Atlanta Rose Down a

801
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Unis Miranda Maverick. I'm not exactly expecting necessarily the best fight,

802
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: but the stakes are pretty interesting for me.

803
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: It's a crossroads fight in that division, and straight up.

804
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: This one is I think I almost put this in

805
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: my top five. UFC Baku Raphael Fhaziv Ignacio bab Mundez. Oh, buddy,

806
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: that is going to be an absolutely zic ass fight.

807
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: I can in a moment like this, you just let

808
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: the rhythm take you over. Luke.

809
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: That's right. UFC three seventeen, we already know about this one.

810
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: A Brandon Royvilt taking on Manel cop is a really

811
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: interesting fight.

812
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: And then of a main event, worthy of one, worthy

813
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: of a main event, to be.

814
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: Fair, I agree. And then for UFC Abu Dhabi, you

815
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: could pick the main you could pick the Komaine, but

816
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: down on that list's got to be mostar versus Aaron

817
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: Pico if they end up actually making that one.

818
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: Can we also shout out that Jamal Hill and Azerbaijan

819
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: versus Roundtree will be a banger. Yes, yes, if I

820
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: get a chance, I will, yes, yes, right, you know

821
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, A bangor like straight from Maine, Luke,

822
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about.

823
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Speaker 2: It Begor Maine. That's right, all right? For my top

824
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: five for number five for the rest of the summer,

825
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: give me Kamara Usman Jaki Buckley your main event for

826
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Speaker 2: UFC Atlanta aka UFC on ESPN sixty nine June fourteenth,

827
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: very simply stated, BC, this is an easy one. I

828
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Speaker 2: think this is going to be Buckley ushering in the

829
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: end or the beginning of the end, anyway of Kumoru's career.

830
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: And I feel like you've wanted that end to come,

831
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: like you're ready for that. I'm ready to him, for

832
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: him to not be ranked in the top five a welterweight,

833
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: but you're like, I'm ready for him to be gone.

834
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm a little surprised. Here's what I've been

835
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: kind of reacting to. Very surprised that people are like, oh,

836
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: the top fighters in the in the walterweight division, like

837
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: shot Cutt and JDM and Usman, And I'm like, yeah, no,

838
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: he's on the way out. He's on the way out,

839
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: and they're making this fight because he's on the way out. No, obviously,

840
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: he's the second best walterweight champion of all time. He's

841
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: had an extremely distinguished career. But like the tape on

842
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Speaker 2: that third and I know he looked halfway decent against

843
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: under unenviable circumstances against Hamzad, but tape on that third

844
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: Leon fight, he looked bad. He did not look good

845
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: at all. And he's only gotten older, and I think more,

846
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: you know, relatively speaking for an athlete infirm, I think

847
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: Buckley's gonna be a real fucking bad fight for him.

848
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested in seeing that, but it's not gonna

849
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: lead us toward or would you like this? Kamaru Colby three?

850
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: No, Jesus goot please?

851
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Does that sound like a like a like a an

852
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: upcoming pay per view Colemane event. It does kind of

853
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: sound like it.

854
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: Right, It sounds like one from twenty you know, twenty.

855
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean i'd watch it. It'd be gross. But yeah,

856
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm in Okay, I'm into your number five fight. I'm

857
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: gonna go number five, Luke, my only women's fight on

858
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: this list, and it's it's an interesting why I would

859
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: put this up here so high, But I'm gonna go

860
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: to UFC three sixteen June seventh, And of course, Juliana Pana,

861
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: the two cuns two times bantam waight champion, gonna defend

862
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: that title if she can make it at won thirty five,

863
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison, don't forget she was hospitalized when it was

864
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: like urinating blood last time out in that win?

865
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: What was it?

866
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: Who was that against Luke?

867
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: Real quick?

868
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: The Kayla Harrison win last.

869
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: Time, Kaitlyn Vieira, Joe Vieira, Vieira.

870
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. So this is interesting, Luke, not in the

871
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: fact of like I mean, Kayla's a what minus seven

872
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: hundred something like that favorite, which is insane and wild here,

873
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: but I also kind of understand and agree with it.

874
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: I just want to see if Kayla can, as they

875
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: said for Cody Rhodes and his wwe run to the

876
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: top when he came back after leaving AEW finished the story.

877
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: I want to see if she can finish the story. Uh,

878
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: it's crazy that she's doing this at thirty five. I

879
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: don't know how long she can keep it up. I

880
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: know that I'm very harsh on Pania in general, but

881
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean I think I'm justified. I don't hate her, Luke,

882
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: but this is she's being you know, set up here.

883
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: But she also can sell a fight. So let let's

884
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: let's get to this fight already, and let's see if

885
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison can bring some actual life not just to

886
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Women's bandam Weight, but to Women's MMA in general by

887
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: waking up Amanda newness and maybe giving us a fight

888
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: that like both from story and from execution, we would

889
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: care about in high level UFC women's MMA. I'd like

890
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: to see that.

891
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: I think that's totally fair. I mean, it's just insane

892
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: that Kayla's trying to do this at a place that

893
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense for her athletic ability in terms of.

894
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: The way too much store that's open for Luke they

895
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: closed up.

896
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: You know, I get it, I get it.

897
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: You just find her and Pacheco and have a featherweight

898
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: divisional or go to women's heavyweight already.

899
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Please, I get it. Believe me, I understand. It's just

900
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that that's where we are. But okay for

901
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: my number four B see, this one is a very

902
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: easy call. This is just such a great fight. It's

903
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: impossible to not like. This will be on July twenty sixth,

904
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: usc Abu Dhabi's main event, Robert Whittaker taking on Rhinier

905
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: or Renier de Ritter RDR man Bobby Knuckles versus the

906
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: Dutch Knight. What is there not to like about this one?

907
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: Whittaker badly needs to get back on the winning ways,

908
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: obviously after a terrible performance against Hamzat, and if RDR wins,

909
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: he might be the next one to fight homsat Of

910
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: course it depends what happens and later that summer, But

911
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean RDR has been such a breath of fresh

912
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: air in the UFC, such a breath of fresh air.

913
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: At one five. Whittaker a consummate professional, a tough out

914
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: for everyone. Again, didn't go well against tomsap but I'm

915
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: you know, fight over a fight that's a reasonable expectation,

916
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: really interesting style clash, interesting different body types. Man, what

917
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: a fight this is gonna be. Can't wait and and

918
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: on Free TV can't wait.

919
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: Free ninety nine. You know I love that, Luke. I

920
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: love this fight so much. I have it at number

921
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: four as well on my countdown here Casey Caseum and

922
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: everything you said, it's I never thought this would be

923
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: a crossroads matchup in the middleway title fix sure to

924
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: find out who's coming or who's going in Whittaker trying to,

925
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, hold that line that he's still even though

926
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: it's in the second half of his career, and we

927
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: can see him lose and even lose disastrously at this

928
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: level like now has happened twice Toms and DDP. At

929
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: the same time, he gets a win and bounces back

930
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: and shows us that superman ability again. He's back in, Dude,

931
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: He's back in, and he just that he's a living legend.

932
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: But momentum matters, and our DR is one of those

933
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: old school specialists that we barely see and that's entertaining

934
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: when somebody's a one hit wonder. But man, that that hit,

935
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: that hit will seduce you, Luke. So I want to

936
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: see if our DR can do this because if he adds,

937
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: if he adds a fourth win, and this time Bobby

938
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: knuckles in what nine months in his UFC run, is

939
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: he knocking on the door? Is it time? Luke? Is

940
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: it is it time? Is DDP gonna get up in

941
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: that bullpen? Is that what's happening here?

942
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: That's what's happening if under the under that scenario.

943
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: Yes, the wild, that's I know, like it's not that

944
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: wild in reality. People have gotten title shots and then

945
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: we never heard from them again. But like for our

946
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: DR and the arc and where he was, and he

947
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: just walked out of his contract by the way, and

948
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: like took the chance that legally it would all work out.

949
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: You know, did did a Lee do it? Do it?

950
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: Do him a solid behind the scenes there?

951
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, But whatever whatever was, whatever happened, it works,

952
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: so it's good for us.

953
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: I guess all right, Luke, let's continue this UFC good

954
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: News tour to top it to fight number three on

955
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: the summer calendar.

956
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: So now we're going to get to the meat of

957
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: the summer, and for me, we're now forced to. I mean,

958
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: your mileage may vary. But oh and by the way,

959
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: I forgot one more fight that was supposed to be

960
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: a honorable mention taking on Ami El Bosi. I forget

961
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: which card that's on, but that one's going to be

962
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: a fucking.

963
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Can we add Can we add Macy Barbara Aaron Blanchefield

964
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: to that list? Or will you not accept that? Because

965
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm hella intrigued about that.

966
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm pretty interested the problems they made it a main event.

967
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: If it was just another fight, I think.

968
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: Don't you want it five rounds? Because it's if Macy wins,

969
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: she's getting a title shot, most likely in a crowded division.

970
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: That's got to be a five round fight, Luke. It's

971
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: got to be for someone that still cares about the

972
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: meritocracy of women's MMA, and not just the only fan

973
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: side side of it, or not at all that side

974
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: of it, Luke, although you paint that picture of me often.

975
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like, you know, what, what

976
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: are you trying to say?

977
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: Paint that picture? You mean take a photo, h Luke.

978
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: So that's what'd you say? Was your number three?

979
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: Again? It was gonna oh so my number three? Getting

980
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: back to it, I'm gonna go Dustin Poarier, Max Holloway

981
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: three now for a couple of reasons. Obviously it's very

982
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: high on the list. It's hello, it's number three. Now.

983
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: We've seen it before twice. But I do think this

984
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: time is different. Poitiers at the end of his run,

985
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna You've always gotten, you know, the

986
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: best out of Poier every time win or lose. Well,

987
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean Michael Johnson fight wasn't his best, but you

988
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, he doesn't ever phone it in.

989
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: He he might make mistakes, but he always gives whatever

990
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: he has. So I'm not really saying anything about that.

991
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: But Max, I think is gonna be I guess some

992
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: questions about him after that's a Poorio loss. However, I

993
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: think that they really understand how to go to fifty

994
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: five now and what that's supposed to look like. And

995
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: how he's supposed to feel. And I think you're gonna

996
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: get a different Max, the Max that beat up justin Gaetgee,

997
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: which is exactly what happened.

998
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: You know.

999
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: I think this is I might favorite Max in this one.

1000
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: In fact that I think I will say that I

1001
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: am favoring Max and.

1002
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: The he passes a slight favorite.

1003
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: Slight favorite, Okay, interesting, Yeah, that's probably about how I feel.

1004
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: I think I probably would consider him a slight favorite

1005
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: to win. But I mean, two legends of the fight Game,

1006
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: two adored figures, one on his way out, BMF title

1007
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: on the line. I mean, there's just so much to

1008
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: like here.

1009
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: It's my number three, all right, Luke, you'll be seeing

1010
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: that fight in my countdown moving forward. But let's hit

1011
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: number three first on mine, and that's Ilia Taporia versus

1012
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: Charles Olivera. It is the summer blockbuster, the main event

1013
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: of the International Fight Wee Card UFC three, seventeen June

1014
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. I think what maybe holds it back, although

1015
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: number three for the summer is a pretty high nod

1016
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: just the same, but for how much sex it is

1017
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: on paper, the fact that it's the consolation to Ilia

1018
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: Islam I mean, I'm not gonna be like sore over that,

1019
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: but holy shit, I wanted to see that fight and

1020
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: I felt like it was right there. And I know

1021
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: there's another argument to that, and maybe we can get

1022
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: into it in a minute regarding it related to Mahachev

1023
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: and everything connected there, But come on, you know why

1024
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: we need to see it. There's so much information we

1025
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: need to get from this to find out if we

1026
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: still are on the road one day to Ilia Islam,

1027
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: maybe even under some incredible circumstances, like for a third

1028
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: championship at Walter Wait, if the series takes it there,

1029
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: but we're never gonna know if it does take it there,

1030
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: if this man la Leanda who cut ties with his

1031
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: training staff Luke so he can now train at home

1032
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: full time with his brother, if he's the real deal here,

1033
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: we gotta find this out. This is the perfect dangerous

1034
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: ex champion to do it with, and it's gonna be

1035
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: entertaining as hell. I mean, look, isn't this a fight

1036
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: that you wish you could pause your normal life and

1037
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: how you get down and how you feed your family

1038
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: And oh, I'm getting ready to go on YouTube or

1039
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: I gotta write a story or whatever. I just want

1040
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: to pause all that and sit as deep in the

1041
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: a throw as I possibly can, put the TV up

1042
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: to my face, Luke, and just you know, visually, you know,

1043
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: pleasure myself, right.

1044
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: I don't watch fights? Hi?

1045
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I was saying, you know, there's just such

1046
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: a sometimes I will.

1047
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be great if you could just take drugs

1048
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: and masturbate while two guys fist fight? And I'm like, no, no, no,

1049
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be Okay, there you go, Luke.

1050
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: Time for your number.

1051
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: I have some feedback. I think it is borderline criminal

1052
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: that you put that one at three.

1053
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, get spicy here, Luke.

1054
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: How can you put two fights? I can understand not

1055
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: having it one, but how can you put two fights

1056
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: above a guy going for a second weight class title

1057
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: after icing Vulcan Max back to back. I'll tell you

1058
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: insane that you think there's two fights better than that one?

1059
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: I'll brilliantly slide right into my answer for number two here, Luke. Okay,

1060
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: And I know that it's a controversial answer, but my

1061
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: number two was Luke's number three, Dustin Poier versus Max

1062
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: Holloway three. Even though even though Pourier's two to zero

1063
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: coming in, even though it's you know, pretty much a retirement.

1064
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: It's like a victory lap type of deal. The reason

1065
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: why is this, Luke. First and foremost, I told you

1066
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: about the Ilio Charles being the consolation prize, A hell

1067
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: of a consolation prize. Look, there are some good mountaintop

1068
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: peaks this summer. We're ranking them right now. Let's celebrate that.

1069
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: I love that fight. But I think sometimes you're allowed

1070
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: as a fan, it's preferred. The same reason why people

1071
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: get fired up for the next Superman versus Batman, you know,

1072
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: all star game, comic book, superhero movie, maybe because that's

1073
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: all they know how to write, Luke in this era.

1074
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: But like it's an all star game, Oh, Jason versus Freddie.

1075
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna suck, but I gotta see it. There's

1076
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: part of that, like you know what, Like it's a

1077
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: combo of bushido and love and respect for what these

1078
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: guys are and what they do. And then also I

1079
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna entertain me while honoring each other,

1080
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: while honoring the sport. There's a lot of heavily soaking

1081
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: with romanticism in there, Luke. But like we're all fans

1082
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's the uh, that's the lane we deserve

1083
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: to be in every once in a while. To look

1084
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: at it from that point of view, this is action.

1085
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: You know, Poorier is gonna go out in a blaze

1086
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: of glory. If this is the last fight he's gonna

1087
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna go out. Max is gonna point

1088
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: to that ship in the middle of Luke. It's like

1089
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: the actors are there. The play is gonna be incredible.

1090
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: Get Get I'm allowed. I almost made that number one

1091
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Luke for that same reason. The rare moment where you

1092
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: don't need a title and in this case, you don't

1093
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: need bad blood either. We can do this through respect.

1094
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to share it with anyone but you

1095
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: for the last match. Like it's almost like a pro

1096
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: wrestling flare Shawn Michael's type of feel you know, I

1097
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: love you.

1098
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: Here's the SuperM May never does those right, That's why

1099
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: I kind of like right, but even in reality, like

1100
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: even when they try to do it like, it doesn't

1101
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: it doesn't really work for the most part. Like it's

1102
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: not gonna be that. I mean, it'll be a great fight,

1103
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: And that's why it's on my list, But I just

1104
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: think trying to say that that's got something more to

1105
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: it than what then then, like Eliot's a Portia who,

1106
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: from what we can tell we'll see, appears to be

1107
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: the next big thing in the sport, going up a

1108
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: new weight class.

1109
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: Are you saying that's your number two, Luke? Is that

1110
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: what you're saying that we just had him flip flopped?

1111
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: Well, my number two I just dropped off in the commode.

1112
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying. No, well, yes, actually

1113
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. My number two is in fact

1114
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: to Pooria versus Olavera. Now, I did struggle with this

1115
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: one in terms of like is it my number one

1116
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: or my number two. I had a little bit of

1117
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: a hard time putting it. Well, I didn't know where

1118
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: to put it. I mean, I knew it was one

1119
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: of the two. I just didn't quite know. I didn't

1120
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: put it at number one for a very important reason,

1121
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: which I'll get to when we talk about number one.

1122
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: But the reason why it's obviously as high it is

1123
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: is on my list is I just don't think I mean,

1124
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: listen to Pooria's changing coaches moving to Madrid, or I

1125
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: think he's already moved to Madrid, but you know, changing

1126
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 2: coaches and fucking with his nickname and all this nonsense,

1127
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: these are all things that could definitely be red flags.

1128
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly am not immune to that idea whatsoever.

1129
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: But at the same time, his talent is considerable, his

1130
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: trajectory appears to be for the moon, and this is

1131
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: in all likelihood the next step in that direction. Charles

1132
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: is a very worthy adversary, but he's also a bit

1133
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: shop worn, and that's probably not going to do him

1134
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: any favors against a guy whose power is and accuracy

1135
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: is as considerable as this. Plus Charles is a bit

1136
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: hittable now, of course.

1137
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: Something important. That's part of the reason. Also, I didn't

1138
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: want to say it. That's part of the reason I

1139
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: put that at three and not two. The fear that

1140
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: Charles is is like made to order.

1141
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: That the fear of that, I think made to order

1142
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: is a little strong. But I can understand some of

1143
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: those concerns. I just feel like, you know, let me

1144
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: say something like, when Morob was going through the Contendership

1145
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: Q and he eventually becomes champion, I just didn't think

1146
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: he would ever do it, especially after he lost to

1147
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: Ricky Simone and now he's champion and he hasn't quite

1148
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: cleaned out thirty five. That's not true, but he's obviously

1149
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: put in a pretty heavi dent and I didn't get

1150
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: to enjoy it, like in terms of like I kept

1151
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: doubting him and doubting him and doubting him and doubting him.

1152
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: But like, I did not have that problem. When, for example,

1153
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: Habib was coming up, I kind of had an eye.

1154
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this guy is different, and I'm

1155
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: like every time he went out there, you know, the

1156
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: ally I quent to fight was weird because it came

1157
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: together at the last second, but you know, in general,

1158
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: everything he did just escalated and escalated and escalated, and

1159
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: it was incredible to watch. I got to enjoy it.

1160
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how everyone else feels, but I'm I'm

1161
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: enjoying watching the ascension of one of the sport's brightest stars.

1162
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: And I think this next step is going to put

1163
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 2: him in a very very different place, Like we're dealing

1164
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: with a different level of history here. You know, it's

1165
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: very weird for me, Like the guy that that Ilia

1166
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: just iced, it's hard for me to put him above

1167
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: Ilia in terms of whose next fight is better or

1168
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 2: more meaningful. To me, that that's kind of the issue.

1169
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say, though, that if to Poria

1170
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: has the potential to be as great as you're sort

1171
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: of teasing there, and and be as big of a

1172
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: star in all the metrics that we always talk about

1173
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: in multiple nations, then should this be a Conor McGregor

1174
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: to Poria fight in reality? Instead?

1175
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: Should that have been the dude? I don't give a

1176
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: fuck if he never fights again.

1177
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm not, no, I get you that this would be

1178
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: one hundred percent the promotion using what's left of his

1179
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: name to add that on top of this rising rocket,

1180
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't.

1181
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't care. I mean, I cannot overstate this. I

1182
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: don't care if we ever see him again. I don't.

1183
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I don't think about him at all.

1184
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: I get that. But do you think only in terms

1185
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: of matching to Poria and trying to make him the

1186
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: biggest star that from a company strategic standpoint, I'm actually

1187
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: a little surprised that they didn't.

1188
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: Go that way. I mean, in a world where that

1189
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: was available, I suppose that there's that sort of an

1190
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: ironclad argument, But in the world in which we live.

1191
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: It's utterly irrelevant at this point. You know, I just

1192
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: don't don't. It doesn't matter.

1193
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 4: I don't.

1194
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: I literally don't even think about it. I don't think

1195
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: about Connord.

1196
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: Only relevant if you care about attempting to try to

1197
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: build somebody into that star. I know it's a volatile game.

1198
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: I know, how would you even know? How would you

1199
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: even get him to fifty five? Much less? You know,

1200
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: I just I don't even know how that's possible.

1201
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh, you'd have to catch weight that, but that'd be

1202
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: part of the allure. You'd have to pry a fighting

1203
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: over his head and wait decidedly, just like Conor did

1204
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: against Nate.

1205
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: To be fair, you know what someone said, though, kind

1206
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: of a separate point is what if Saryuki fought Patty

1207
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: Pimblet And I got to tell you, first of all,

1208
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: I fucking love that fight, and winner of that gets

1209
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: Iliya like to me, that's like real exciting, you know, all.

1210
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Right, Louke, can we agree on the final point here,

1211
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: which is our number one fight for the summer? I

1212
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: think we got the same one here because it's the

1213
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: best fight and it's August sixteenth, ats UFC three nineteen

1214
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and it is Drikis Duplessi continuing this incredible

1215
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: run at middleweight against undefeated Hamzad Chamaya, who could beat

1216
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: this dude in sixty seconds for all we know, or

1217
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be twenty five sweaty minutes of finding out

1218
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: who chamayav really is. Lather me up, sign me up. Yeah,

1219
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: I wish I could suspend all work, you know, duties

1220
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: and just get one on one with this, luke. You

1221
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, let's go, let's get let's

1222
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: really enjoy the fights, right, let's get.

1223
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: VC's new podcast, the MMA five Knuckle Shuffle. We'll watch

1224
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: fights and jack off together.

1225
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: Undelieing that the main card minute we got a little

1226
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: bit of this too. I love that.

1227
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: I love that shit.

1228
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Log I will look for joining

1229
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: my dunk. Luke, what say you? It's the same thing, right,

1230
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: You got those same loin calling feelings going on right now?

1231
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Ilia trying to get a second title

1232
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: in another weight class is its own kind of specialness.

1233
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: But the reason why I ended up putting as well

1234
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: as you did BC DDP versus Chamaya of number one

1235
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: is because it's got the most interesting questions and storyline

1236
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: of any fight that they've created at any point in

1237
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: this calendar year. Now again, if they end up making

1238
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: John and Tom, that's it's, that's its whole other. I mean,

1239
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: that's that's that's better than anything else that can make

1240
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: on the calendar arguably. But this one is special. This

1241
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: one is very special. Hamzat was a guy we thought

1242
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: was gonna be already at this point years ago and

1243
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: got delayed for crazy reasons, health visas, whatever. But he's

1244
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: finally here. They're finally putting in North America in a

1245
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: major market on pay per view, and it looks like

1246
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: it looks like BC he's maybe answered all the questions,

1247
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: except you know, that first Sauti Arabia fight didn't go

1248
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: right and then they had to rebook it, and of

1249
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: course he looked amazing when they got a second chance

1250
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: at it. But there's a lot of questions about him,

1251
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: like he appears to be like the most dominant fighter,

1252
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: and in certain ways he might be like insanely vulnerable.

1253
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: We don't, we don't really know, we don't, we don't

1254
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: really have a good answer. And then DDP DDP, the

1255
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: world's goofiest fighter who also happens to be an absolutely

1256
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: amazing talent, by the way, a physical presence, a bulldozer

1257
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: when he has to be, and fights that way as well, resilient,

1258
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: mentally tough, and absolutely battle tested. The questions heading into

1259
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: DDP Hamzat are much more interesting than they are against

1260
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: Ilia versus Charles, just on your fight terms, and for

1261
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: that reason, it is absolutely my most anticipated fight of

1262
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: the summer.

1263
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: We share that at number one. Maybe not a surprise

1264
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: to some, but let me throw the wildcard question in there.

1265
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: We know this fight's coming, but it's not booked yet.

1266
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: It could be October in Abu Dhabi. We are talking,

1267
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: of course about the welterweight title Jack Della Maddelena and

1268
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: the number one pound for pound fighter in the world,

1269
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: Islam Mahachev after putting down the lightweight title, and this

1270
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: is part of that consolation prize we get for not

1271
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: getting Ilia Islam. Right now, Luke, where would this fit

1272
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: into your top five if it was announced today?

1273
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Crazy?

1274
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: Is it crazy to go one? Luke?

1275
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: Oh, it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Do you see how Jack Islam is in the training

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Speaker 1: videos right now?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to think about that one a little bit

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Speaker 2: more certainly in the top three. I mean, I might

1282
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Speaker 2: put it number two only because it's got basically everything

1283
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Speaker 2: that number that that that that Olivera and Tipori has.

1284
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Speaker 2: But Islam is a obviously a pop pun number one,

1285
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: so that to me is just a bigger deal. But again, dude,

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Speaker 2: the questions surrounding DDP and hamzat the kind of fight, like,

1287
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Speaker 2: as a fight fan, deep in your soul, you just

1288
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: don't know the answer to I know a lot of

1289
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Speaker 2: people like, oh DDP is gonna mall them? Or Hams

1290
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Speaker 2: that's gonna mall you motherfuckers don't know. You don't know shit,

1291
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: you don't know. What you really know is the uncertainty.

1292
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Speaker 2: And you're trying to dismiss the uncertainty by like asserting certainty,

1293
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Speaker 2: which you don't have. The reason this fight is is

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Speaker 2: so amazing is because of the uncertainty. That's actually what

1295
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: makes it so Trying to deny it's there is trying

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Speaker 2: to deny what in fact makes it special.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, listener, you played yourself from Luke Thomas right there. Luke,

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Speaker 1: speaking of fire and shots, Mahachev's been under fire from

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Speaker 1: a honest speaking, part time villain and full time gangster

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Speaker 1: in one and only Chail Son, and who did apologize

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Speaker 1: this week to that couple that he brutally beat up

1302
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Speaker 1: at the luxur when he was on that medication. Good lord,

1303
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Speaker 1: that's a wild situation. But this was a sentiment so

1304
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: heavy that we had to bring in our friends at

1305
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Speaker 1: Kuervo again for this week's shots Fire. Here is Chail's

1306
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: son and speaking his truth about Mahachev's decision to move

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Speaker 1: up and wait.

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Speaker 8: Islam did everything you could do to avoid that fight.

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Speaker 2: That's just the truth, guys, that's just what happened. I

1310
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Speaker 2: don't know Iliya. I know Islam.

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Speaker 8: I like Islam a lot happen to be a fan

1312
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Speaker 8: of Illia, but I mean, I don't know him, but

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Speaker 8: it's still what happened. Islam did everything you could conceivably

1314
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Speaker 8: do to not fight Illio, including leave the division, including

1315
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 8: leave the championship. Hey, if you don't fight this guy,

1316
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 8: we're gonna strip you of your championship, strip me of

1317
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 8: my championship. Is nothing more that Illy could do in

1318
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 8: our industry, nothing, There is nothing that exists, giving a belt,

1319
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 8: leaving publicly walking away from it all to hunt a

1320
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Speaker 8: guy down. There is nothing more that Islam could do

1321
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Speaker 8: in our industry. Truly, these are literal statements. There is

1322
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 8: nothing in our industry that is a stronger way to

1323
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 8: get away from somebody than to leave the division and

1324
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Speaker 8: even leave the championship behind.

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Speaker 1: Now, Luke, to be fair, Chill says a lot of

1326
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: things about every topic every day. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna back him on this. But I'm interested to

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01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: see is there any part of that that's truthful? Speak

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01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: your truth, Luke?

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Speaker 2: Is there any part of it that's true? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's much value in it. People want

1334
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: to see the fight, and I don't think that's crazy,

1335
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: and I think there are people who think to Poria

1336
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: could beat him. I'm one of them. But what has

1337
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 2: to Poria done at fifty five that necessitates Islam wait

1338
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: for him when he doesn't have much time left in

1339
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: the sport and he's got his own goals, which by

1340
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: the way, include going up fifteen fucking pounds and fighting

1341
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: those guys. If he had a resume at fifty five

1342
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: and Islam wasn't going to go anywhere or even if

1343
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: Islam wasn't even going to go anywhere. That's one thing too,

1344
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a slightly different conversation. I think what's

1345
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: dogging Islam is that, you know, you just look at

1346
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: some of the fights he's had where you know, the

1347
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: last one was Moi Kano and he got the tie

1348
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: shot off Green, which were not his faults. These were

1349
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: all things that kind of fell in his lap. People

1350
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: are saying he doesn't have the wins to necessitate just,

1351
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, going up and doing that kind of a thing.

1352
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: And I don't think that's that's necessarily crazy at all.

1353
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: But Islam has probably, like Habib, a very set time

1354
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: in which he's going to call it a day. I

1355
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to ride this one out until

1356
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: his late thirties. That doesn't sound right to me at all.

1357
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: He's got a very very limited window left and he

1358
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: has to strike while the iron is hot. He did

1359
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: a favor to forty five twice in giving a shot

1360
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: to Vulk. He wants to get that cashed. He doesn't

1361
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: have to wait around for a guy into Poria, who,

1362
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: by the way, are we gonna be what are we

1363
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: gonna say if toa Portia goes up to fifty five

1364
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: and he gets choked out from the back by Olavera.

1365
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Speaker 2: We were going to say that Islam had to wait

1366
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: around for that.

1367
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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean yeah, I mean that's a what if.

1368
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's a possible.

1369
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Speaker 2: It's a what if in either direction, you know. I mean, like,

1370
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Speaker 2: you're talking about a guy who's got no resume. He's

1371
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: got the Jai Herbert win, but other than that, he's

1372
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: got really no resume in a UFC at fifty five. Now,

1373
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: I think highly of him obviously, But this idea that

1374
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: like Islam is ducking him dude, like Canelo. Like, if

1375
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: you actually see what ducking looks like, it doesn't look

1376
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: like what Islam is doing. Islam going to seventy after

1377
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: beating everyone basically and everyone that within a timeframe anyway

1378
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: that he had that is not the same thing at all,

1379
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: especially against a contender who had at the elite level,

1380
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: hasn't had a single fight in this weight class. No,

1381
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: it's a strained argument.

1382
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: He's doubling down on daring to be great. He's going

1383
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: up to a new weight class against a new champion

1384
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: who looks like a killer. Inarguably a harder fight, depending

1385
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: on your opinion, than the Tatorio one. So there's also

1386
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: the argument to be made, of course, that he doesn't

1387
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: owe this to the company, to the fans. You know

1388
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: that he's his own businessman trying to navigate his career.

1389
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: And again, and I always throw in this, we have

1390
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: no idea if he has been talking to the UFC

1391
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: about exiting the lightweight division for a while, and maybe

1392
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: they've been encouraging him to stay, like you just don't

1393
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: know how long that's been going on on. What Chail

1394
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: seems to be attacking though, is like from the manhood

1395
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: side of it, Like, no, that guy called you out.

1396
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: He walked up to your front door and said, I'm

1397
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: here to take over this division, So forget the good

1398
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: business choice or anything like that. Is there any merit?

1399
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: Maybe only a guy like Chail could say it, because

1400
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: you know he was in that cage, Luke, and also

1401
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: left you up at a at a LOWERD Sier Vegas

1402
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: hotel at any point, including your significant other. But like

1403
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: from that man mono I mono side, Luke, you're not

1404
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: buying it either.

1405
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean again, would it have been nice

1406
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: to have seen the fight? Sure? Can you really say

1407
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: that Islam is acting disreputably given the circumstances. I think

1408
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: that's a very very weak argument.

1409
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: All right, that was shots fired, brought to you by Quervo.

1410
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. We,

1411
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: of course are talking about Quervo. We'll be back partnering

1412
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: with Quervo on Wednesday, June fourth, a UFC three sixteen

1413
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: pregame preview. Get a little Blanco out, Luke, get a

1414
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: little Aaron Bronstead or inside the Manhattan studio, as we're

1415
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna do things like men do there with the three

1416
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: of us. It's gonna be epic. Look, it's gonna be incredible,

1417
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: and Quervoux will be there along the way. Here's one

1418
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: of Islam's many comebacks to Chill Sun and over social media,

1419
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: in which he said chasing hype and money is not

1420
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: the same as chasing greatness in sport. But average athlete

1421
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: who built his way to the top with cheap trash

1422
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: talk won't understand that. So please see and watch how

1423
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: others doing it, Uncle Chail. That's probably the nicest of

1424
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: the comebacks from Islam. And here's the argument from Chaill's

1425
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: co host and cohort. There DC the teammate who came

1426
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: out and said, this is the first time that Islam

1427
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: put his wishes above what everybody else wants. He's defended

1428
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: the belt multiple times. He's fought people on short notice,

1429
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: is fought people coming up in wait. He's done everything

1430
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: he can show that he's willing to lay it on

1431
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: the line when Arman couldn't fight. Well, this guy was

1432
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: number five with no training camp. He did it on

1433
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: a day's notice. He's always done it. End quote. Even

1434
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: though that's his boy talking about his boy. Luke, you

1435
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: gotta also agree with that. I mean, it's a complicated scenario,

1436
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 1: all right. Is there an argument for justin Gaigee in

1437
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: your eyes of having gotten screwed over or is that

1438
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: a topic that's moved to you?

1439
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: Ummm, screwed over is a strong word. But I can

1440
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: understand why Gaichee might feel upset that he got passed over.

1441
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that's unfair either, all right.

1442
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: All right, Annik defended him after going golfing with him.

1443
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: But we we'll skip that. Luke. Let's get to topic

1444
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: number three here so we can get time for over

1445
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: Under and MK Jeopardy with a lot at stake at

1446
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 1: the end of the show. You're not gonna want to

1447
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: miss that, Luke, here's the deal. A bunch of online

1448
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: reports in recent days suggesting that BKFC parent company Triller

1449
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: could be close to going under amid bankruptcy rumors, threats

1450
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: of Nasdaq delisting them, and a failure reported failure to

1451
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: pay pay their employees the last three months. KFC, which

1452
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: has a high value in that realm Luke, could be

1453
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: in the need for new investors like asap and new ownership. So,

1454
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: given I'm being honest here, this is a straight up

1455
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: pitch to you. Given the failure of Power Slap, Given

1456
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: the possibility slash like likelihood that TKO won't be in

1457
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: the boxing future if that fallout with Turkey Olasik is real,

1458
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is now the time for TKO to

1459
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: actually shift and pick up BKFC and make it the

1460
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: biggest hand fighting thing in the world and take McGregor

1461
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: off the bench and put him in main events there

1462
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: and blow that thing to the sky. Does not this

1463
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: not seem like a perfect marriage TKO and BKFC.

1464
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: First of all, can we take a moment to talk

1465
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: about Triller, Is that a thing we can do?

1466
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a debacle, it's it's a it's a I.

1467
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 2: Mean, I remember, I'm looking at some of my old

1468
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: tweets here. I have one from April seventeenth to twenty

1469
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: twenty one. Triller is the moment Joe Namath tried to

1470
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 2: kiss Susie Colbert, but as an entire event cold yeah, yeah, yeah,

1471
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 2: I had people and there's you did too. There was

1472
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation at the time, like, oh, they're

1473
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: reinventing the way we do combat sports. Un Like burning

1474
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 2: money is not a reinvention of combat sports. You know,

1475
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: wasting money is not a reinvention of combat sports. Just

1476
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 2: dumping music acts into shows with questionable fights is a

1477
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: reinvention of nothing. Now that's a separate conversation.

1478
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: They smoked weed on air and offered a Trump cast,

1479
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: so they've done things no one else is.

1480
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the future BC, They're the future. I have

1481
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: people telling me that's the future of combat sports promotion.

1482
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're new here, aren't you. Yeah? All right?

1483
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: That aside that aside, should should TKO acquire BKFC, I

1484
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: certainly hope not the last thing we need is for

1485
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: TKO to expand its reach into the rest of combat sports,

1486
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: which by the way, they're already trying and boxing. I

1487
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: guess we'll see how that goes. And I know I've

1488
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: been having a lot of discussions BC with some folks

1489
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: behind the scenes this week. They're going to make a

1490
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: big push into grappling here soon as well. And you know,

1491
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have anything to report, but it

1492
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 2: looks like all the signs kind of point to Craig

1493
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: Jones being on the opposite side of that, and so

1494
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: there's a big battle that's going to be heading between

1495
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: those two entities. I know exactly who's all going to

1496
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: be on Craig Jones's side, but that's headed our way

1497
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: as well, because what can what do they want to do?

1498
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: It's the same playbook a million other places, and we

1499
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 2: talked about it. If you fight on the Fight Pass Invitational,

1500
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: it's show money and only sub money. Even if you win,

1501
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 2: you don't get the second part of the check you

1502
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: have to submit to get it. It's the it's somehow

1503
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: even worse than their MMA contracts, if you can believe it.

1504
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: But that is exactly where.

1505
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: We are, honest question here. Can it be a ZUFA LLC. No,

1506
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: I know, technically endeavor purchase ZUFO when they purchase the UFC.

1507
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: But could it be a Fortiita, Brothers and Dana like

1508
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: spin off, like old school grassroots thing.

1509
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'd be cool with any kind. Listen.

1510
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: I just think a lot of people have this, like

1511
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: in this reflex where the all the gravitational pull in

1512
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 2: the industry is coming from TKO. So there's this desire

1513
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: when things are fledgling or new or maybe struggling but

1514
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: interesting to then all have TKO come in and save it.

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01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 6: No.

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: No, that is absolutely the last thing that we need now.

1517
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: Of course I would like to see. Well, I mean,

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't care if b KFC survives or not. I'm

1519
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: not pushing them ill, I'm simply saying I I don't

1520
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: have a dog in the fight in that way. But

1521
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: what we do need, and what is a much healthier

1522
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 2: sign of a combat sports economy is when you have

1523
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: a combat sports economy when there's multiple suitors, multiple businesses,

1524
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: multiple different investors, multiple different kinds of communities, all sort

1525
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: of working in concert or at least alongside one another.

1526
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: That's what we actually need. So it's not that I'm

1527
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm wishing BKFC fail or something like that. What I'm

1528
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: saying is I would rather that not everything go back

1529
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 2: into the arms of TKO, where now they have yet

1530
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: even more control over this vast industry and for all

1531
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: the people like bellyaching about fights and this and that,

1532
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: like your your answer to this is to give them

1533
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: yet more of the assets in the industry, to give

1534
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: them more control. This is a dis argument.

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01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of shaking me to my Cora.

1536
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, if I can't open the show

1537
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: ripping on the direction TKO is taking things in the

1538
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, fear and distaste it's putting in me and

1539
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: then be like, yeah, just take this and rehabit when

1540
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: it it doesn't need to be rehabbed. It needs a

1541
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: power injection behind its particularly financial, but maybe even in vision.

1542
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: But it also like the idea was if UFC guys

1543
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: can can be in bigger moments there on BKFC, then

1544
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: they can't. You know, if Jose Aldo rather than fighting

1545
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: contenders and in our opinion him being wasted. But I

1546
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: did watch his interview on Aeriel where he explained it

1547
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: as if I'm not chasing the title, then I'm not

1548
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: fighting like who am I? And I certainly respect that

1549
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: sort of classic romanticized warrior you know motto there, But

1550
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking it more of like, well, it's a

1551
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: better use for these guys to have a fun, bare

1552
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: knuckle fight if you'd prefer that, that's going to be

1553
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: hyped up big and make you a ton of money.

1554
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: But maybe you'd make more of it if the same

1555
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: bosses meet the new boss same as the old boss. Luke,

1556
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: So I get that, I get that, But do you

1557
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: think if it did happen, I'm being hypothetical, although you

1558
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: could connect the dots and see a path for it

1559
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 1: to happen. Do you think they could take it to

1560
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: like mainstream, like legitimate mainstream level or is it always

1561
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: going to be an extreme like novelty pay per view.

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know how mainstream BKFC can be.

1563
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I could be convinced, maybe you have a different idea.

1564
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: It seems to me that like they do a lot

1565
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 2: of business in grassroots, small markets, and they have a

1566
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: lot of questionable characters on their roster.

1567
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, yeah, you know you see that that

1568
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: that Britton Hart Music video that just came out. Am

1569
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: I the only one that saw this. She's like rapping

1570
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's uh, it's.

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01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: Interesting, Luke. I gotta see your algorithm. I would love

1572
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: to see what it shows you a.

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01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: Lot of future waitresses, Luke. Now I'm kidding, all right,

1574
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: enough of that stuff. Okay, Hey, let's transition out of that,

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and uh, it's playoff time right now, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you that. Okay, it's playoff

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Speaker 1: time in this show because we're already soon to get

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Speaker 1: game one, and did you see the bounce on that

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Speaker 1: Halliburton shot. Holy crap, Luke, what a wild series. But

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Speaker 1: when you look at that from a standout of which

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't go that deep.

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Speaker 1: Well read well said Luke. Here, let's go to a

1631
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Speaker 1: fun segment that we used to float around where your

1632
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: BOYBC looks at the latest headlines and then pitches some

1633
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: scenarios to Luke, where I give him a number and

1634
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: he goes over or under based on the ridiculous or

1635
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: legitimate scenario being offered him. Yes, this one's called show

1636
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: me that graphic over under.

1637
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 4: We don't have a real graphic. I just use some generica.

1638
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh, there we go. There's a generic fill in. That's

1639
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: what we are here, That's what we're reduced to. Well,

1640
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: we can have some fun with it, Luke, I got

1641
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: ten of them for you. You just tell me over

1642
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: under look. PFL announced on Tuesday it has moved its

1643
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: debut PFL Africa card in Capetown, which features Johnny Evlin

1644
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: and Dakota Diva, to July nineteenth, which places it by

1645
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: the way on the same day as Pacqui al Berrio's

1646
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: Huaweiwei Holloway three, Usik dubois I and Bam Rodriguez in

1647
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: a unification fight against Kafu. Oh yeah. The card also

1648
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: starts in the US at four am Eastern time and

1649
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: one am Pacific time, so we can all get our

1650
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: Dakota fix, Luke, or at least my father Luke. The

1651
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: number in question here is three and a half over

1652
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: under the combined amount including this PFL Africa card, the

1653
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: combined amount of MMA fights under the PFL banner that

1654
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: Dakota Ditchiva, Francis Enganu, and Jake Paul arguably the three

1655
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: biggest names on their rocke. Jake Paul. Yeah, there we

1656
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: go until extinction, until the PFL packs it in, until

1657
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: they hit bankruptcy. I don't know what's going to happen next.

1658
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: Over under three and a half total fights, including this

1659
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 1: one at PFL Africa.

1660
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: I'll take the under. I'll take the under, Okay, isn't

1661
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: that to that? Paul won't Yeah, Jake Paul won't fight

1662
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 2: at all. You might get one more from Francis. You'll

1663
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: get a total of two from Dakota. That's it, Damn, damn.

1664
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: That's where we're at. Luke's a that's a dark start,

1665
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: all right. Let's go to topic number two. Devin Haney's father,

1666
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: Bill trainer and manager as well, put out an official

1667
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: hit list for his son. You can see it right

1668
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: there on Twitter, showing the ten opponents that he wants most,

1669
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: next number one being one hundred and forty pounds champion

1670
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: Tao Femal Lopez Junior. So Luke Oscar de la Hooya

1671
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: came out this week. He promotes Ryan Garcia. He says

1672
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: they don't want the Hany rematch next. There's a lot

1673
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: of hype behind Hany versus Tao coming next. Even Turkey

1674
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: and Ring have been tweeting out things that suggests that

1675
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: is the direction they're going next to a lot of

1676
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 1: people would like Tao to go to one forty seven

1677
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: and fight Boots, But here we go Devin Haney versus

1678
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: Tayo Femo Lopez six and a half. That is the

1679
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: over under on the amount of rounds that Haney would

1680
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: win in a one hundred and forty seven pound bout

1681
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: against Tayo Femo Lopez if they fought next.

1682
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: Six and a half. I'll take the under. I think

1683
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: Tao's a bad matchup for him.

1684
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: Ooh, how come, Luke, are you siding with Tim Bradley here?

1685
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Tayo, well not Tao. Bradley thinks Tao's

1686
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: too much for Boots. I don't agree with that, but yeah,

1687
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 2: I do think his athleticism and his ability to find

1688
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 2: stuff with it and his craft is going to be

1689
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: too much for a guy like Hani, who looked like

1690
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: absolute shit in his last fight.

1691
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: All Right, that's interesting. I still I don't know if,

1692
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 1: like it depends upon is Hany really broken or are

1693
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: they just not taking any chances against Ramirez. The whole

1694
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: thing was weird. Hani wasn't mentally yet there, But like,

1695
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: if Hani bounces back, I could see in a boring

1696
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: fight him getting seven rounds against.

1697
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: Tao in sort of a I can't not right now.

1698
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, maybe I'm still believing in something that doesn't exist.

1699
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 4: Stop believen.

1700
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: All right, Number three on the over unders. Have you

1701
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: seen this viral video that's gone around showing like an

1702
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: attractive mom who was wearing a Cannibal corpse t shirt

1703
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: sitting in her car and complaining that high school kidance

1704
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: counselors today don't push enough kids in the direction of

1705
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: trades like plumbing in HVAC. It's obviously a big topic

1706
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: in the news in politics these days. Let's just get

1707
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: a quick snippet of it.

1708
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 9: So my eldest daughter just graduated high school. And do

1709
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 9: you know what the guidance counselor never said, not one time, hey,

1710
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 9: maybe look into the trades. Nobody at that school ever said, hey,

1711
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 9: you could learn to fix an air conditioner and be

1712
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 9: making six figures before your friends finish intro to what

1713
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 9: the fuck am I doing with my life?

1714
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 2: One oh one?

1715
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 9: Why do we still treat the trades like it's what

1716
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 9: you do if you fail the SATs, Like knowing how

1717
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 9: to install a furnace is somehow less valuable than writing

1718
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 9: a twelve page paper on the symbolism and the Great Gatsby.

1719
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Oh there we go, Thank you Long, I have that

1720
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: exact shirt. I didn't want to make you sit through

1721
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: that if that wasn't the the uh, you know, if

1722
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't your topic of interest at the moment. But

1723
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Over under nine and a half percent

1724
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 1: of females who own Cannibal Corb shirts that you assume

1725
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: you would be willing to bang.

1726
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Having been now to many of these concerts, I am

1727
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: absolutely taking the fucking under.

1728
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: Oh maybe not a surprise, Maybe, Luke.

1729
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm taking the under big time.

1730
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: Are you surprised she was wearing that?

1731
01:24:56,280 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Again I have seen. Okay, so I've been to

1732
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 2: what six of them now, six of their show? Six

1733
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 2: or seven?

1734
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: Your poor wife, wow, and at that time not.

1735
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: Including my beautiful wife. So we're putting her to this, like,

1736
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: you know, we're not counting her. How many like pretty

1737
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: girls have I seen? The answer is one?

1738
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 4: One?

1739
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Wow?

1740
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, well we'll move on from there. It

1741
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: just gets darker and darker.

1742
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: Luke.

1743
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: Number four, we talk a lot about the UFC's current

1744
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: broadcasting deal with ESPN, which has set a new level

1745
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: of expectation in the sense that there's an event nearly

1746
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: every weekend. I mean, it's why the main card minute

1747
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: is cleaning up.

1748
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: Right.

1749
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: They are there for you from the opening curtain Jerker

1750
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: to the end.

1751
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: Right, that's the name of your podcast, Curtain Jerker and there.

1752
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: It is like that a lot. Let's show the graphic here.

1753
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, just to show you, last year,

1754
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: UFC did forty two total events, which isn't crazy. You

1755
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: can go back to twenty fourteen when they did forty

1756
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: eight events in twenty four so they've been busy as

1757
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 1: busy before. But Luke, here's the over under question, and

1758
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: I've got for you thirty one. If we consider, if

1759
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: there's what fifty two weekends a year, thirty one over

1760
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: under for you the ideal number of annual UFC cards

1761
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: that would both bolster the quality of each fight night

1762
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 1: and pay per view without slowing down or killing the

1763
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: business financially.

1764
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: I could go over, but just slightly. I could do

1765
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: no more than thirty five, and I think even that's

1766
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: pushing it. I think it's closer to thirty two. Thirty

1767
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 2: three is about right. I think thirty two to thirty

1768
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: three is typically about right for them. So I'll take

1769
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 2: the over, but not in some kind of dramatic sense

1770
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: like you put it right near my limit. But technically

1771
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: I can take the over.

1772
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: I could take the Long Island Luke would be a

1773
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: death sentence to your addictive fan.

1774
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 4: You have to hang out with a significant other that

1775
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 4: would do that would bring them up. No, but I

1776
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 4: I like closer to like forty. I wish they just

1777
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 4: spaced them out better. I know, like you know, fourth

1778
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 4: of July week, there's certain weekends you kind of got

1779
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 4: to take off. But I just wish they spaced them out.

1780
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 4: But we have that whole month off in December and

1781
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 4: then we have like twelve weeks straight.

1782
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 6: Oh.

1783
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: I like that they kind of have a one month

1784
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: off season for their employees and stuff. But I hear you,

1785
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you don't need that anymore, f the employees.

1786
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 2: A fuck about those employees, you know, No.

1787
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't. Let's go to number five, Luke. Aaron Blanchfield

1788
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: told MMA Fighting on Wednesday that she doubts straweight champion

1789
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: jeonggwe Lee would find success at women's flyweight. She doesn't

1790
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: even see her as a top five fighter. Let's listen quickly.

1791
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 10: Because I know that then now, if people want to

1792
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 10: move up to another weight class, they're making them like

1793
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 10: vacate their belt at like the lower way class and

1794
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 10: like stay in the higher way class. But I'm not

1795
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 10: sure if that's something like I'm sure way Lee wants

1796
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 10: to by Valentino because who doesn't. Like they're both you know,

1797
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 10: been around for a while, and it'd be a cool

1798
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 10: champ first champ fight. But I don't know if she

1799
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 10: wants to stay at twenty five and have to fight

1800
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 10: the rest of the girls in that division. I think

1801
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 10: that would be really hard for her. But you know,

1802
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 10: I mean, if she moved up, I plan on winning

1803
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 10: my fight and like a little less than three weeks now,

1804
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 10: and then maybe I have to fight again, if I

1805
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 10: fight like silver or something like that, and then I

1806
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 10: can get a title shot.

1807
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like, no.

1808
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 10: Matter how it works out, it's it's gonna be soon.

1809
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 10: I think Wayley would be very similar. I think she

1810
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 10: could win some fights at at flyway because you know,

1811
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 10: she is very good, but I don't see her being

1812
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 10: a champ. I don't really see her even being top five.

1813
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 10: I want twenty five. I think she's just I think.

1814
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 10: I mean, Rose was able to beat her twice and

1815
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 10: knock her out once, and Rose is like a little

1816
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 10: bit bigger than Wailey at least like height wise, so

1817
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 10: Wailey has even less of like advantage at one twenty five,

1818
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 10: being even shorter. Yeah, I mean she could fight there,

1819
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 10: but I don't see her being like top five or

1820
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 10: champ at one twenty five.

1821
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: Look a little gatekeeping right there from from Blanchfield. I

1822
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: kind of like that, Luke for you. The over under

1823
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: in question here is five and a half. Let's let's

1824
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: put it to the test. The number of top ten

1825
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 1: women's fly weights that you would favor Wailey Young to beat, right.

1826
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 2: Now I need to see the list. Give me a

1827
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 2: second here, put me on the spot, all right. Number

1828
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 2: of flyweights I would pick for Jean Leleie to beat

1829
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 2: so one you've got to tell youa silva tum and

1830
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 2: off euro three grosso. She definitely beat her. Four Blanchefield,

1831
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't think so, and five Barber. Yeah, I'll take

1832
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 2: the under I'll take it. Yeah, wow, okay, so five

1833
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think.

1834
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't see that.

1835
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 1: Does that mean that you partially agree with Aaron Blanchfield

1836
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: in this case?

1837
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Partially? Partially? I mean, I think on the right night

1838
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 2: she's capable of beating just about anybody you know, but

1839
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:33,879
Speaker 2: consistently hacking away at it over time. Yeah, I'm skeptical,

1840
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: especially now she's thirty what, thirty five, thirty six? Yeah,

1841
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm a little skeptical.

1842
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 3: Oh.

1843
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Interesting. Sometimes it makes people more youthful and better when

1844
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: they go up and wait, Luke. I mean, but also

1845
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: sometimes you can see that gap in size. Not everyone

1846
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: can close that gap.

1847
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: I went up and wait during the pandemic. It didn't

1848
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: make me more youthful. You know what I'm saying.

1849
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: We got real fat The pandemic. Holy crap in hindsight,

1850
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: let's go to number six Luke on this fun filler

1851
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: game of ours. UFC Hall of Famer Militice unfortunately entered

1852
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: a Iowa jail on Thursday to begin a thirty day

1853
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: sentence dating back to a twenty twenty three DUI when

1854
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: police found the fifty nine year old passed out behind

1855
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: the wheel at a gas station with the car and drive. Militic,

1856
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: of course, is an alumni Luke of the jan six,

1857
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one insurrection that notwithstanding, Luke, you're over under

1858
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 1: is seventy three? The last age that you believe Pat

1859
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 1: Militic could overtake me in a jail cell brawl to

1860
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: the death one on one?

1861
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 2: How old is he now?

1862
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: He is currently fifty nine? The over under a seventy

1863
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: And I'm talking we're just straight up small, small area.

1864
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: We're fighting to the death, Luke.

1865
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: I'll take I'll wait, So am I what's the question again?

1866
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Pat Militant and I are going to fight to the death?

1867
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, the number highest age he yeah, seventy three.

1868
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he can beat you at seventy three,

1869
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: so I'd have to take the under. Wow. Okay, okay,

1870
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: I'll look agent. Let's know this aging is fucking terrible.

1871
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he has ground skills and heavy hands, you know.

1872
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 4: What I mean.

1873
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but dude, a seventy year old man like one

1874
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 2: good shot and they're.

1875
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, grand Grandpa hain't coming through that door, right, No,

1876
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: young man's game.

1877
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 2: You got this?

1878
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you very much. Let's go to

1879
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: number seven. Luke John Jones may be universally considered MMA's goat,

1880
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: and he may own a victory over the recognized greatest

1881
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: UFC heavyweight and Stepe Miocic, even though Stepe was forty

1882
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 1: two and oldest shit, But Jones was also the eighteenth

1883
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: undisputed heavyweight champion in UFC history until that became disputed

1884
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 1: when Aspinall won the interim title at the end of

1885
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three when Jones was injured. So the over

1886
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,440
Speaker 1: under is twelve and a half of the other seventeen

1887
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: UFC heavyweight CHAMPI and if you took them in their

1888
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: heavyweight prime versus the heavyweight prime of Jones, which we

1889
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: have to say is the twenty twenty three version that

1890
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: beat gone over under on the former UFC heavyweight champs

1891
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: that you think Jones would beat if we did mythical

1892
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: matchups here, because it is an older John and we

1893
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: only saw a little bit against Cyril gon and and

1894
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: some something.

1895
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 2: I take the under. Wow, yeah, I take the under.

1896
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking like, does he beat Rico Rodriguez? Probably? Yeah,

1897
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: probably Rico was.

1898
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 2: Rico was fucking good. He probably does beat him. But

1899
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: Rico's not some bitch.

1900
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying there are certain guys from a different

1901
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: eras where yeah you know, yeah, yeah, but his ground

1902
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: game is going to mop up a lot of these guys,

1903
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: is it not Luke, I.

1904
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,919
Speaker 2: Mean the Maurice Smiths of the world, definitely, But like Cain.

1905
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yes.

1906
01:32:59,000 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you.

1907
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Mexico City ver Doom, I don't know if he's messing

1908
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: with that guy.

1909
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 2: Mivisia Verdune was fucking good. Prime Steepe was real good.

1910
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: We did have some even though this division heavyweight, especially

1911
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: in the UFC, has been the least consistent, the most

1912
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: all or nothing like, not a lot of longevity or depth,

1913
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,759
Speaker 1: but the high moments. Okay, what about Prime Randy?

1914
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 2: He beats Randy, He beats Randy.

1915
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Okay, Prime Brock, he beats two.

1916
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 2: And you know it probably although that's a different one

1917
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: because Brock's a fucking animal.

1918
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: You know, well, Frank murrhm might give him a little

1919
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 1: bit of trouble.

1920
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 2: He might put that. Frank Murrm I give him real

1921
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 2: trouble again, Prime Frank Miryeah.

1922
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna take the under. Let's go to number eight, Luke.

1923
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: After Netflix reported that seventy four million viewers watched the

1924
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: second Katie Taylor Amanda Serrano fight, which happened to come

1925
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: on the Jake Paul Mike Tyson undercard. That's the most

1926
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: watched fight in women's sports history. It's set the stage

1927
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,799
Speaker 1: now for their trilogy, which will headline a July eleventh

1928
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: Netflix card from MSG in New York. Jake Paul's MVP

1929
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: promotion formally announced the entire five bout card on Thursday,

1930
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: which features, by the way, five of the top ten

1931
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: women's pound for pound fighters on the same night. I

1932
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: thought that was a pretty good factoid. But you're over

1933
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 1: under is twenty million if this fight did seventy four

1934
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 1: million last time, but with Jake and Mike as the

1935
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: lead in You're over under on total Taylor Toronto three

1936
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: viewers that Netflix will report without Mike Tyson on this

1937
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: card as we do head into for boxing fans. Hell yeah,

1938
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: a must see trilogy.

1939
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 2: Gonna take the under twenty million is give or take

1940
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 2: what an NFL game will do. No, it won't do that.

1941
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 2: I'll take the under Damn Tyson.

1942
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: Paul like, say what you will, and we did, we will,

1943
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: we will continue. But that thing was a magnet, I mean,

1944
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: a free dude.

1945
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 2: I'll never forget the night of that fight. I went

1946
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: to dinner early at one of my neighborhood eateries, and

1947
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: not one, but two table around me, both with children,

1948
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 2: were both talking about it, and I was like, Yo,

1949
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 2: this fight is gonna be fucking huge, And then it

1950
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: was absolute dog shit.

1951
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: We go to number nine on over under ESPN. NFL

1952
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: reporter and friend of the program, Mark ray Mundy has

1953
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: a book coming out on June twenty fourth, on the

1954
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: history of pro wrestling's greatest faction, of course, the nWo,

1955
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: that he's hoping will become a New York Times bestseller.

1956
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: Watch this tough Guy video ed put out there. I

1957
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: like it.

1958
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 5: Did you know that no journalistic book about pro wrestling

1959
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 5: has ever made the New York Times Bestseller List or

1960
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 5: Amazon number one. Well what if I told you that

1961
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 5: can all change soon.

1962
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm Mark ray Mundy.

1963
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 5: Author, say hello to the bad Guys. How professional investing

1964
01:35:56,240 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 5: is new old daughter changed America. We need your help.

1965
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 5: You want to continue to see projects about provising that

1966
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 5: paints it or spray paints it in the conserving light.

1967
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 5: Please pre order say It's the Bad Guys now on

1968
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 5: Amazon wherever you get your books, because books just like

1969
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 5: the nWo.

1970
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 1: Or look that's like the toughest he's ever looked, or

1971
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: the most cringees. It's dependent upon your taste.

1972
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love Mark Ramundi. I'll never read that book.

1973
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Well, okay, that's a great segue. By the way, shout

1974
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: out to Rick Mark Raymunday. I've started reading it. I'm

1975
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: looking forward to interviewing him on the BCX to talk

1976
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: about it, Luke, because I get down like that. Obviously

1977
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: you don't. So you're over under his three five hundred dollars,

1978
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: the total cash amount that Ramondi would need to pay

1979
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: you so that you would read it and then review

1980
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 1: the book on your YouTube.

1981
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 2: Chane, Yeah, that's not going to be nearly enough. Oh no,

1982
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: you gotta get much higher than that.

1983
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: Like this is between friends. This is him dming you

1984
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: and saying, dude, like, I just would love I think

1985
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 1: your your your fan base would love this book. I

1986
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: just love you know, And you're like, all right, bro,

1987
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,839
Speaker 1: but it's gonna have to be it's like this Katari

1988
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 1: you know plane right, Like you know we're gonna have

1989
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: to rub each other a little bit on this.

1990
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: So the equivalent of being like, how much would it

1991
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 2: take for you to, like, you know, watch gay porn,

1992
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it's you know, I'm not an.

1993
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 4: Interest in money.

1994
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Wow. We just went from having a nice commercial to

1995
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: support our friend to uh.

1996
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 2: But I hope people will. I hope I hope that

1997
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 2: the people who do care about this kind of thing

1998
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 2: by and watch this book and support Marker money because

1999
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 2: he's a great.

2000
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: Thirty five hundred with like an honest plea from him

2001
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:42,520
Speaker 1: that's like, friend.

2002
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: I want this to be a I have My time

2003
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 2: is my time is precious.

2004
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: Your time is money, but not that much money. Wow.

2005
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: All right, you learned a lot about Luke and that

2006
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 1: answer your final one, though, Luke, this is the most important.

2007
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: This is the hardest hitting question of all After twenty

2008
01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: three years. Four thousand, eight hundred and thirty one EPISODEES

2009
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: today May twenty third, twenty twenty five, is the final

2010
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 1: episode of the long running Around the Horn Show on ESPN,

2011
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: which is still filmed in Washington, d C. By comparison, Luke,

2012
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Morning Combat is closing in on its sixth birthday this July.

2013
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: I have no idea how many episodes we've done, but

2014
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: we've done far fewer than the than the four thy,

2015
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: eight hundred and thirty one that Around the Horn did.

2016
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: So you're over under is two and a half years,

2017
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 1: the amount of time as we enter our sixth birthday

2018
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: that you believe MK realistically has left before cancelation or

2019
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: there's no more money, or we've lost our you know whatever,

2020
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: that sort of end point. Rock Bottom is over under.

2021
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: I gotta close the door over I mean, are you

2022
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 2: really asking me this question on the air.

2023
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: I think the air is the best place for this question, Luke,

2024
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: You know, I mean.

2025
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: We, I mean, you probably got to take the under right.

2026
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 2: Like media, we.

2027
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Listen, but we don't judge. Yeah, yeah, all right, let me.

2028
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 2: Just ask you. Of course, we can survive much longer

2029
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 2: than this. But what I'm saying is like who I Okay,

2030
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: So I had somebody write me yesterday, a kid in college,

2031
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 2: and he was like, I want to merge my passion

2032
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 2: for MMA and journalism. What's your advice? And I'm like, yeah,

2033
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:23,560
Speaker 2: don't do that. Don't do that.

2034
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: You're like, become a porne cameraman.

2035
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 2: Please become a pornographer or a rug coin mean coin

2036
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: fucking puller. Like, the worst fucking thing you could imagine

2037
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 2: doing is getting into the MMA media business in twenty twenty.

2038
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the worst idea you could possibly have. Yeah,

2039
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 2: don't do that shit.

2040
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Don't follow your dreams either,

2041
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, that's over under for you. Look, will it

2042
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: see another day or what?

2043
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Over under? Yeah? Yeah, but this one went a little long.

2044
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 2: You got or we got to tighten up a little bit.

2045
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 1: All right, we'll tighten it up. Hey, we have one

2046
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: more segment for you, and we put some steaks on

2047
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 1: the line, maybe on the grill too. This one is

2048
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna be called MK Jeopardy.

2049
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 4: Once again, no animation.

2050
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: There's no animation animation, So how this is gonna work?

2051
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 1: Luke and I will compete head to head for one

2052
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: hundred two hundred three hundred, four hundred and five hundred

2053
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 1: dollars questions typical Jeopardy across their five categories MMA, Boxing,

2054
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: MK Show, History, Shelters, and random. We don't know the

2055
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: questions obviously, we won't lose money for getting them wrong,

2056
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 1: except for two daily doubles where you get to pick

2057
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: how much you want to bet and you will lose

2058
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: it on the daily doubles, so that's sort of your

2059
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 1: wild card. But Luke and I will go back and

2060
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: forth for control of the board. You can steal it

2061
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 1: if the other person doesn't get it, and the payoff

2062
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: is Wednesday, June fourth, when we do UFC three sixteen

2063
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: pregame preview with Aaron bronstat Alive with Cuervo on the

2064
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 1: Morning Combat YouTube channel of an AM Eastern. The other

2065
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: person has to wear the T shirt of choice. This

2066
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be amazing. Okay, here we go,

2067
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, do you want to start it off? Because

2068
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: we never know is Luke gonna play ball? Is he

2069
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 1: gonna submarine?

2070
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 2: This?

2071
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: Like what you want to go first? Luke?

2072
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 2: We never know is Luke gonna play ball or is

2073
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 2: he gonna submarine this? I mean, what kind of a

2074
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 2: statement is that.

2075
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: It insulting one Luke meant sort of meant to sort

2076
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 1: of rile you up and get you on your game.

2077
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 4: You know.

2078
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 1: Let's go.

2079
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:31,799
Speaker 2: I'll take MMA four hundred.

2080
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 4: Do you guys want me to read these?

2081
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: You want to read it?

2082
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 4: All right? MMA for four hundred. What was the first

2083
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 4: pay per view event that the UFC debuted their new

2084
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 4: gloves in twenty twenty four?

2085
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask a question. Are we allowed any

2086
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 2: kind of hints? Er is just like raw dog like

2087
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: this roll dog baby?

2088
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh yes, thank you.

2089
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say UFC three hundred, but I don't think

2090
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 2: that's right.

2091
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 4: It was UFC three h two.

2092
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 5: Oh.

2093
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 4: You gotta give him a chance to steal, all right.

2094
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: I was gonna say UFC three oh five, so I

2095
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: would have got it wrong, but thank you for cheating.

2096
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Now, in the event that we both get it wrong,

2097
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 2: does it go back to b C?

2098
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 4: Anyway, it would go back to you, But because I

2099
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 4: fucked that up, we'll give it to BC.

2100
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, all right, there we go.

2101
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Random for one hundred. Here, let's go.

2102
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: Let's get on the board.

2103
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,799
Speaker 4: Random for one hundred, Cannibal Corpse and my Morning Jacket

2104
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 4: each have had eight studio albums that made the US

2105
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 4: Top two hundred. But who has had more make the

2106
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 4: top one hundred? This is just an either or question.

2107
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: We're going fifty to fifty on this. That's gonna kill

2108
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 1: the steal I mean, who wrote these let's go I'm

2109
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna go with I think it's a set of questions.

2110
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Cannibal Corpse because they do sell

2111
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: well to a certain dark audience. Yeah, there we go.

2112
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 1: Put one hundred on the board.

2113
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,600
Speaker 4: They have had five in the top one hundred. My

2114
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 4: Morning Jacket has had I just will say.

2115
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 2: It's a little bit bullshit that he gets a multiple

2116
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:05,719
Speaker 2: choice answer and that I didn't.

2117
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 4: But I believe that's the only multiple choice answer on it.

2118
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: So all right, so here's my control of the board.

2119
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 2: Here, here we are control.

2120
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to MK Show history for one hundred.

2121
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 4: MK Show History one hundred. Since being at the Meadow

2122
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 4: Larks Studio, we have had four in studio guests, name

2123
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 4: all of them.

2124
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Since being at the Metal Larks Studio, our four guests

2125
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: have been Craig Jones, Jed Meshu, Chuck Mindenhall.

2126
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 4: Are you doing a timer on this.

2127
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you got to count me down? There

2128
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: you go, three two one?

2129
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke, do you want to steal the fourth?

2130
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 2: Guests? All right, Craig Jones, Chuck, Minden Hall, Jed Mshu

2131
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 2: and Dog. I don't fucking know. I know who the

2132
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 2: hell is it?

2133
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 4: It's your boy, Danny Sigurhak.

2134
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, honey, how did I not say that?

2135
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 2: Yes? You're so right, God, we get it.

2136
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Luke, you could take what watch?

2137
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 2: Also?

2138
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 4: I wait, wait, wait real quick, because I'm doing ten

2139
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 4: things at once, guys, so I apologize. I've totally forgot

2140
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 4: to be in keeping score. But no one's got anything

2141
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 4: right yet.

2142
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: I've gotten one. It's one hundred to nothing.

2143
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 2: BCA, he got the one. That's right.

2144
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 1: You've got to keep score along island, Luke. All right, that's.

2145
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 2: Let's do random two hundred.

2146
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 4: All right, random for two hundred? Which two city states

2147
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 4: fought in the Pellow Polynesian War?

2148
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 2: Oh, Athens and Sparta?

2149
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 4: That is correct?

2150
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's easy.

2151
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 4: It's easy for you. We were open BC, we'd get it.

2152
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 1: Okay, Lotion, Oh god, that's great.

2153
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 4: All right, let's do random three, random for three. Forget

2154
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 4: the five boroughs of New York City. Can you name

2155
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 4: the five counties of New York City?

2156
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 2: I think one is King's County correct, Queens County correct,

2157
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm out. I don't know off of that PC.

2158
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Would you like to steal so Kings, Queens, Suffolk.

2159
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 4: No, that's Long Island mother for then, and there we go.

2160
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 4: I be it's New York which is Manhattan, Bronx which

2161
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,839
Speaker 4: is the Bronx, Queens which is Queens, Kings which is Brooklyn,

2162
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 4: and Richmond, which is Staten Island.

2163
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 1: I was never going to get that island. I mean

2164
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 1: it's Jersey. Saton Island's Jersey.

2165
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 4: That's true. I agree with that. Yeah, there we go

2166
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 4: with that one.

2167
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: Look do you go again?

2168
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 2: Do I go here? I guess I'll go again. I guess.

2169
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 2: Let's do random four.

2170
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 4: Random for four. Solve this math equation.

2171
01:45:59,439 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Thirty five.

2172
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 4: Wow, that was quick. Yes, that is correct? All right,

2173
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 4: hold on, hold on, score wise, give me a sec.

2174
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 4: All right, you got six hundred.

2175
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 8: Now.

2176
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 1: I was told there wouldn't be math. Come on, that's it.

2177
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 4: I think that's the only man. Let's do random five

2178
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 4: random for five. What is the world record for most

2179
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,799
Speaker 4: hot dogs eating at Nathan's famous hot dog eating contest.

2180
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess seventy six.

2181
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 4: That is incorrect, BC.

2182
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 1: Would you like to steal seventy four?

2183
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:31,719
Speaker 4: It is eighty three by Joe.

2184
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 2: All right, in the interest of fairness, Brian can take

2185
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: the next one.

2186
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's hit it boxing for five hundred. Let's

2187
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: splash the pot.

2188
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 4: Here, boxing for five hundred. Who defeated Manny Pacquiao in

2189
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:45,839
Speaker 4: his professional debut?

2190
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 2: Oh, man, I'm not gonna be able to pull that.

2191
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 1: That is tough. I'm not what I don't think didn't.

2192
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he lost his pro debut. Actually, am

2193
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 1: I wrong on theough?

2194
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 2: They're not doing trick questions, are you.

2195
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 4: I didn't come up with this question. I did in

2196
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 4: fact check it, but so.

2197
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to give you the name regardless,

2198
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 1: but I thought he would. He lost twice in the

2199
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 1: UH in the early in like the first ten or fifteen,

2200
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 1: and I think one at least once by stoppage when

2201
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 1: he was dehydrated. UH in his pro debut. Not man Okay,

2202
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 1: now they're saying not Manny's pro debut. Okay. I used

2203
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: to know the names. Can't pull him at the minute.

2204
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 1: Lucas gonna have to steal.

2205
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: Man, I can't. I got nothing for you, all right.

2206
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 4: The guy's name was Rustico tour Campo.

2207
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I used to know that for sure, Rustico tour too.

2208
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 2: All right, can I have it back? Then?

2209
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 5: Go for it.

2210
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 2: Let's try Delta's for two.

2211
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 4: Delta's for two. Which country was the first to legalize

2212
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 4: cannabis for recreational use?

2213
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:59,759
Speaker 2: Ooh, because a bunch of places decriminalized it. I'm gonna say, Uruguay.

2214
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 4: Damn, that's a good guess. You are correct.

2215
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: Damn. Look you're you're putting the crush on me right now.

2216
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 2: All right, Let's do delta's three, Delta's for three hundred.

2217
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 4: Ooh, that is a daily double.

2218
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is where he's got to risk it too.

2219
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 4: You have eight points right now, so before seeing the

2220
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 4: question how much do you want to risk?

2221
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: But you lose it if you get it wrong.

2222
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Luke, this is the only time that I'm gonna you

2223
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep it moderate.

2224
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to two hundred.

2225
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 4: Two hundred, Okay, So for two hundred Delta's number three.

2226
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 4: There are still five US states where marijuana is completely illegal.

2227
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 4: Can you name three of them? This is both recreationally

2228
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 4: and medicinally illegal.

2229
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:51,440
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say Alabama that is incorrect.

2230
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Fuck all right, well then I don't know Florida is

2231
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 1: one of them.

2232
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Even medicinally.

2233
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 4: No, so Florida has medicinal So.

2234
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 2: What okay, are you giving up? BC? I mean, I

2235
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 2: guess we'll get it wrong then, because you can't steal it,

2236
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 2: you have the answer.

2237
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 4: So the five states are Idaho, Kansas, Nebraska, North Carolina,

2238
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:14,879
Speaker 4: and South Carolina.

2239
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: I think Texas just actually made it illegal as well.

2240
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 4: I saw that literally today like today, yesterday.

2241
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 2: Ye yes, all right, you're up.

2242
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 1: All right, Luke just lost two hundred. That puts me

2243
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: back in. Let's go boxing one hundred boxing for one

2244
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: hundred that is also a daily double wow. All right,

2245
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 1: I gotta risk it all. Let's go one hundred here, right,

2246
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: That's all I can do.

2247
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all you can do. We've had four boxing

2248
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 4: guests on the show since moving to DraftKings. Name all

2249
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 4: four guests.

2250
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 1: Damn, this is a good question. Bam Rodriguez correct, Keyshawn

2251
01:49:53,439 --> 01:50:04,600
Speaker 1: Davis correct, David Benavidez incorrect.

2252
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 2: Oh eat ship bitch, take him. You're down to zero.

2253
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 4: You pumped down, can't steal, all right? So it was

2254
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 4: Teyo Femo Lopez, Jesse Bam Rodriguez, Sean Porter, and Keishaan Davis.

2255
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: So this is dude, I'm taking a big l there.

2256
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: You know they knew I would lose the math ones.

2257
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: But I'm not even getting like the boxing slash MK

2258
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: history layup ones here.

2259
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 2: Let's get let's get an easy point on the board.

2260
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 2: Let's do delta's one.

2261
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 4: Hundred, delta's for one hundred. What does th HC stand for?

2262
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 2: Tetra hydro can cannabinoid tetro tetra hydro cannab. I'm gonna

2263
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: go with that, that cannabinoid tetro hydro tetrahydro.

2264
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: If he's close, you got to give it to him,

2265
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: because all right, it's tetra hydro cannabinol. Yeah, that's good

2266
01:50:59,080 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: enough for me.

2267
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 2: You can all right. If BC says it's good enough,

2268
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna fight it. All right, Let's do MMA

2269
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 2: three MMA for three hundred.

2270
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 4: Of the fourteen UFC pay per views in twenty twenty four,

2271
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 4: how many of them were headlined by someone named Alex Okay?

2272
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 2: Then we're just talking pay per views, correct, so at

2273
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 2: least three of them? Um, but that probably can't be

2274
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 2: the answer. Who are the other Alexes beyond him that

2275
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 2: were headlining pay per views on this guy? Let's go.

2276
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 4: Ten seconds.

2277
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 2: I'll say four.

2278
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 4: That is incorrect, BC.

2279
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: I need to steal five, two Volkanovski, three poets.

2280
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, that is also incorrect. What the answer is?

2281
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 2: Six?

2282
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 4: Three poets on two Pantosia, one Vulcan.

2283
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 1: Oh an Alice Hall all right, you're up, all right,

2284
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: let's go MMA for.

2285
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 4: One hundred, MMA for one hundred.

2286
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 2: This is specific to you BC, so a little bit

2287
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 2: shitty to be like els Chandre is the same as Alex.

2288
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, it starts with the three Yeah.

2289
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 6: Uh?

2290
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 4: Who is Ian Gary's UFC debut against?

2291
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: It's a great question.

2292
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 4: I should know it, especially, and I will say if

2293
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 4: Luke has to steal, we're changing the question. These are

2294
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 4: specific to each other, so.

2295
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 1: Well, no, if he can steal it, can steal it.

2296
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 2: Take it.

2297
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 4: This wasn't either or depending on who landed on it.

2298
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 4: I had a BC version and an LT version.

2299
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 1: So it's a great question. I don't even know the answer.

2300
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

2301
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 2: These questions are fucking hard, man, I know, but.

2302
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:51,560
Speaker 1: It's it's it's doable. It should be there, it's not

2303
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: in the moment. I've got to pass, all right, So

2304
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: should I give Luke?

2305
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 4: Should I give Luke his specific or should I specific one?

2306
01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 2: Right?

2307
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 4: Who is Ilia tapoor yous ufc debut against.

2308
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 2: Uh yusef zi lull?

2309
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:05,839
Speaker 4: All right? Shouldn't have given him the specific?

2310
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 2: Ian?

2311
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 4: Gary's was Jordan Williams.

2312
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have got that one, all right. Let's do

2313
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: mm A two.

2314
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:13,639
Speaker 4: All right, hold on, let me add your points quick,

2315
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 4: eight hundred, MMA for two hundred. How many combined title

2316
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 4: defenses does the Sarah Longo team have?

2317
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 2: Dude? These fucking questions are fucking hard.

2318
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 1: They are hard, Yeah, they are okay.

2319
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 2: So Wyman's got three, al Joe had three, So that's six.

2320
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 2: Morobs had what m at least two? So there's who

2321
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 2: am I not thinking of here? Sarah didn't have any?

2322
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 2: I'll say eight? Am I missing?

2323
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 4: That is incorrect?

2324
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 1: Seven had one?

2325
01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 4: That is correct.

2326
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. Let's get on the board. Let's go

2327
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: MMA for five hundred?

2328
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 4: Please fuck me? Hold on, I just deleted this my accident.

2329
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna need that long island, Luke, Come.

2330
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 4: On, I got it, I got it, I got it back?

2331
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 2: All right?

2332
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Uh?

2333
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 4: Wrong way there? Hold on, guys, bear with me. Which

2334
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 4: one did you want? PC?

2335
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:20,719
Speaker 1: I want.

2336
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 4: MMA for five hundred? How many future or former champions

2337
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 4: fought on the UFC two to oh five card? I

2338
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 4: got a couple hints for you here. There were eleven

2339
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 4: fights on the card, so twenty two total fighters, and

2340
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 4: three of those were title fights, so at least three

2341
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 4: were on the card. How many total future former champions?

2342
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: Okay, these are these are future or former champions? Here

2343
01:54:45,480 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 1: we go, Connor Eddie, Yo Wanna, Tyron Woodley, Misha Tate,

2344
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Rocky Pennington, Balala Muhammad. That's seven. Chris Widman eight, Yoel

2345
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Romero nine nine, No, no, no, take Romero back eight

2346
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 1: Romeroo never a full champion? Eight Widman eight eight is

2347
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 1: my answer?

2348
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 4: That is incorrect and I steal.

2349
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 2: Yes. The answer is nine. Because you forgot about Rose.

2350
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 2: Rose was not on that car? Is the answer? Nine

2351
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 2: is the answer?

2352
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 1: Nine?

2353
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 4: The answer is eleven?

2354
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 1: Fuck?

2355
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 4: How about this? You missed, Liz Carmush, you missed could

2356
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 4: be even Maraga Mettov, Oh my god, how do we

2357
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 4: forget about and you missed Frankie Igar.

2358
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 2: I forgot even believe I couldn't pull up Who's on

2359
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: that car to saved my life?

2360
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 4: So just to name them all in order of lois

2361
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,120
Speaker 4: to highest, it was Liz carmushal Mohammed could be evenalking

2362
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 4: about Frankie Iger, Misha Tate, Rocky Pennington, Chris Wideman, Joanna Young,

2363
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 4: j Check, Tyron Woodley, Eddie Alvarez, Connor McGregor.

2364
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: That would have been worth a five hundred.

2365
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 2: Let's burn, let's burn through this. Let's try deltas for four,

2366
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 2: Delta's for four?

2367
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 4: Who said this quote? That is not a drug, it's

2368
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 4: a leaf.

2369
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 2: Bob Marley.

2370
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 4: Incorrect.

2371
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 2: I have no fucking idea, bc uh Marshawn Lynch.

2372
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 4: It is actually uh Luke's idol. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

2373
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 2: Oh really Oh? From the Pumping Iron documentary, Okay.

2374
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 4: Let's go boxing for four hundred, Boxing for four hundred?

2375
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 4: Name all five?

2376
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 2: Gary Russell Brothers.

2377
01:56:56,520 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Gary Russell Jr. Gary Antonio Russell, Gary Antoine Russell.

2378
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 2: Man.

2379
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: This is this is shameful, Garry Alan Russell.

2380
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 4: That's four yeah, one more?

2381
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: Damn it's is a bootleg. Brother isn't it.

2382
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 4: Damn wah, I don't think he boxes. That's probably what?

2383
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2384
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 1: Uh, Gary Anthony.

2385
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 4: Russell incorrect, Luke, I have no fucking idea it is Isaiah.

2386
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a hard but great question about four.

2387
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 4: Out of five? You did good?

2388
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's do boxing for uh two?

2389
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 4: Boxing for two? Which boxer ended? Julio sesershavez is eighty

2390
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 4: seven fight unbeaten streak in nineteen ninety four De la Joya.

2391
01:57:58,280 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 4: That is incorrect, BC.

2392
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: Frankie Randall, that is correct.

2393
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 2: Wow, good job, you see, good job, thank you?

2394
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: Boxing for three?

2395
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 4: Hello. At these points, boxing for three of the top

2396
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 4: five highest grossing boxing pay per views of all time,

2397
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 4: only one fight didn't involve Floyd Mayweather. Who fought in

2398
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 4: that fight?

2399
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 1: Of the top five, it's a great question, only one

2400
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: did not involve Floyd Mayweather.

2401
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 2: So you have to get both names correct.

2402
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 11: Damn.

2403
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 2: Let give you a calm down.

2404
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones incorrect?

2405
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 2: Can I steal yes, Mike Tyson and Holyfield? Correct?

2406
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: Yes?

2407
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 4: I want to.

2408
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 1: I want to.

2409
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 4: I want you to specify which one.

2410
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 2: But no, you just said name who's in the motherfucker right?

2411
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 4: You're right?

2412
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 1: Right, that's incorrect. Mike Tyson and Lan s Lewis did

2413
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 1: like one point nine million. That's the highest Tyson fight

2414
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 1: until and then he did one point five with Roy Jones.

2415
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 2: He said, correct, I'm not fighting him.

2416
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 4: Magazine just put out like a top five thing. This

2417
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 4: is what I mean. Are you saying they're not a

2418
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 4: credible source? Is that what you guys are?

2419
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 1: Well, they could be using international pay per views where

2420
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: from that era we use North America paper, right, all right,

2421
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: give me the point.

2422
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, he can get it.

2423
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine, he can get it.

2424
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 2: Go ahead, right, all right, Let's do this show history too.

2425
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 4: I'm terrible at this show history. For two hundred we

2426
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 4: filmed eleven RSDs in the Bomb Shelter? Can you name

2427
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 4: eight of the guests?

2428
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 2: What the fuck kind of question is this? All right,

2429
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 2: let's see Lauras Anko, Sean Brady Glover to share. Uh, uh,

2430
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 2: Anthony Smith, Aaron Blanchefield, uh a j McKee in the

2431
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 2: bomb shelter, in the bomb shelter. Fuck me, dude, these

2432
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 2: are hard ask questions. These are not easy. Give me

2433
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 2: a second hold on this. Because you got eight names

2434
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 2: is a lot many?

2435
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 4: Does he have six. I'll give you ten seconds. The

2436
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 4: name two more?

2437
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 2: All right?

2438
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 1: Uh five?

2439
02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm I'm out at my end, all.

2440
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:01,880
Speaker 4: Right, BC?

2441
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 2: Can you fuck and Chuck Minton Hall correct oh bullshit?

2442
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 1: One? Yeah, yeah we did, all right?

2443
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 4: SERI is showing Brady Dimitrius Johnson, A J. McKee, Chuckmandon Hall,

2444
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 4: Cory Anderson, Loris Anko, Anthony Smith, Aaron Blanchfield, Ray Longo,

2445
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 4: Matt Fravola.

2446
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, let's go. Delta's five hundred. I

2447
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 1: got one chance at this.

2448
02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 2: Let's go. Hold on?

2449
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 4: How many points is that worth? Two hundred two?

2450
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2451
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 4: Sorry, guys, Delta is for how much? BC? Five hundred

2452
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 4: five to one? We once allegedly played a fan ripping

2453
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 4: a bong out an Islanders game on Have you seen

2454
02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 4: this ship? What brand bong was it?

2455
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,080
Speaker 1: It's a worthy five hundred, it's it's it's an obscure

2456
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: but not impossible. I'm gonna have to I don't know it.

2457
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 4: I don't know it.

2458
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 2: Would you say brand? You mean like company, the name

2459
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 2: brand of the bong?

2460
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:11,320
Speaker 4: Yes, not like what model number?

2461
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say the Tyson brand. No, it was

2462
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 2: an ill adelf I mean I would have never gotten that.

2463
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 2: All right, my goo yep, Yes, all right, let's round

2464
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 2: it out. Show three Show History for three?

2465
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:33,320
Speaker 4: Who is the fighter featured in our most viewed short

2466
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 4: of all Time? I don't understand that, like we have.

2467
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:48,280
Speaker 4: Our most viewed short of all time is a clip

2468
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 4: with a fighter in it. It's a focus around that fighter.

2469
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 4: Who is that fighter?

2470
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:53,320
Speaker 2: Evans?

2471
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 4: That is incorrect?

2472
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:56,600
Speaker 1: Basic flood Mayweather.

2473
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 4: It is also incorrect. It is the Hank Davis interview

2474
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 4: that Luke did where he's talking about Chakhur. It did

2475
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 4: three point nine million views.

2476
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 2: Jesus, did it really? All right?

2477
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm down by five hundred. There's two questions left, one

2478
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 1: for four hundred and one for five hundred in MK

2479
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 1: Show history. Let's go with four hundred.

2480
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 4: All right, MK Show History for four hundred. This is

2481
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 4: a hard one. How many items is Luke Seene putting

2482
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 4: into his mouth in the MK intro the revamped MK intro.

2483
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 1: Three?

2484
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:34,000
Speaker 4: Close? But incorrect?

2485
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 2: Can I steal? Yes? Four? Correct?

2486
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have said close. That's my fault.

2487
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now give me the points, bitch.

2488
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 4: It was you put a vape in your mouth? A

2489
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:50,600
Speaker 4: granola granola, I guess pepto bismoal and you're doing a

2490
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 4: shoey drinking beers.

2491
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, all right, last one. Let's just do

2492
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:56,760
Speaker 2: it for five. Let's go, I win, but let's do

2493
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 2: it for five.

2494
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 4: All right? Show history four or five? How many I'm

2495
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 4: gonna give you leeway here. How many total numbered podcast

2496
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 4: episodes did we have. It's in past tense because we

2497
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 4: stopped numbering them once all the smoke started, So pre

2498
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 4: all the smoke, and you're allowed to get within twenty

2499
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 4: of the actual number.

2500
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say five hundred and fifty.

2501
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,960
Speaker 4: You fucking nailed it. We had five hundred and forty.

2502
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 1: Damn mother.

2503
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 2: Look at me, BC wow, wow, look at me, Look

2504
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,080
Speaker 2: at me, Look at me, Look at me, bitch.

2505
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 4: Let can we get a preview of what you're thinking

2506
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 4: for the shirt?

2507
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like I eat ejaculate or something absolutely unbearable

2508
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 2: that he'll have to wear.

2509
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Oh gosh, I really got taken to school there.

2510
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 1: So I gotta pay the piper. Wednesday, July fourth, eleven

2511
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:02,920
Speaker 1: am Eastern on the Morning Combat YouTube channel. It is

2512
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 1: pregame Preview brought to you by Cuervo, and I'll wear

2513
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: the shirt in question. All Right, before we go, we

2514
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 1: did want to shout out a fantastic interview that took

2515
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 1: place on our brotherhood podcast, The Art of Ward under

2516
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 1: All the Smoke Fight featuring Andre Ward with the legend himself,

2517
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 1: Bernard Hopkins. And you know it's gonna be lengthy. They

2518
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 1: go two hours. I listen to all. It's so good

2519
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: about the wide range of topics, going from Hopkins being

2520
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 1: a state prison champ to becoming a world champion. It's

2521
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 1: famous fight with Tito Trinidad and the riot he started

2522
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:40,480
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, the body shot to the liver. You'll

2523
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:43,400
Speaker 1: understand that joke when you watch it against Oscar de

2524
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:46,720
Speaker 1: la Hoya. Check out be hop breakdown his historic stoppage

2525
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 1: of the Golden Boy. And to watch the episode, you

2526
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 1: can head over now to the All the Smoke Fight

2527
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Let's watch a snippet of it right now.

2528
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 12: You stop Oscar with a sneaky left hook to the

2529
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 12: body of the nine. What do you have to say

2530
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 12: to people that said I was fixed just he wasn't heard,

2531
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 12: That wasn't that wasn't a strong shot.

2532
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 2: What do you have to send people said that?

2533
02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 1: What would I say?

2534
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:12,840
Speaker 6: To people to say that that wasn't a strong enough

2535
02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:14,760
Speaker 6: shot for Oscar not to get up.

2536
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:19,040
Speaker 2: I would say, have you ever been hitting the lever?

2537
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 2: Probably not.

2538
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 6: Until you get hitting the liver, you will understand that

2539
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 6: the liver is not supposed to be hit on. I

2540
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 6: heard the gas and I knew he wasn't getting up.

2541
02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:38,880
Speaker 6: The timing of it was more than a punch. As

2542
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 6: an athlete, you and I know, and anyone else out

2543
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 6: they will understand. Even if you're not an athlete, you

2544
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 6: get the wind knocked out of.

2545
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 4: You, it's a problem.

2546
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 1: How do you shake a lever shot?

2547
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:54,920
Speaker 4: How do you stop.

2548
02:06:56,200 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 1: Air being forced out of you? That out on all

2549
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 1: the smoke fight shout out to be Hop Luke. Would

2550
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:04,400
Speaker 1: you rather take a shot from be Hop to the

2551
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 1: liver or meet him in the men's room?

2552
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll skip the men's room.

2553
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we'll take that. Look you know the

2554
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 1: significance of that Dale La Joya Hopkins fight. I believe

2555
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 1: that was two thousand and four if I'm correct, it

2556
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:28,480
Speaker 1: was the first recognized four belt undisputed championship fight of

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Speaker 1: this modern era. Very cool with Hopkins winning by knockout.

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Speaker 1: There there you go. Check that out. Follow the show

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Speaker 1: at these social approved channels right there. You can follow

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Speaker 1: us on our YouTube journeys as well. Check out my

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Speaker 1: interview with Eddie Hearn this week. Luke, you have any

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Speaker 1: thing to promote there on Luke Thomas Live on Substack.

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Speaker 2: You gonna take a break this weekend. Got some cool

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Speaker 2: stuff for substack on Tuesday. Obviously, have a great weekend

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Speaker 2: and Monday and everything like that. But yeah Tuesday, stay.

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Speaker 1: Tuned Long Island. Luke. Will you be you know, being

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Speaker 1: a great boyfriend this weekend with not much fights going on?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I will be being a great boyfriend. No content. Also,

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Speaker 4: Happy Memorial Day to everyone. No show Monday. We're going

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Speaker 4: live Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Live eleven am Eastern at Morning Combat on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, guys. Reach the show at Morningcombat

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Let's get those Fridays awesome again.

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Speaker 1: Did you like today's fanfare funfair? Well, let us know

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Speaker 1: we had some fun. We rolled out the balls, Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Anything else that the people need to hear from you,

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Speaker 1: like encouragement, don't follow your dreams?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get in shape, let's yeah, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go home. I've got another job all right

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Speaker 1: for lt it's BC and the L I L. We're

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Speaker 1: out of here. Thanks folks. All the Smoke Fight is

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Speaker 1: headed to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 11: This year's International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction weekend in

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Speaker 11: boxing's hometown Canna Stow to New York. It takes place

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Speaker 11: for Thursday, June fifth through Sunday June eighth, ending with

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Speaker 11: an annual ceremony and mortalizing sing all time greats.

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Speaker 3: The International Boxing Hall of Fame are hosting fan events

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Speaker 3: and experiences all weekend long. On Friday night, June sixth,

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Speaker 3: Sleted Promotion will present a terrific fight car in association

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Speaker 3: with All the Smoke Fight Live on the Zone from

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Speaker 3: the Turningstone Resort Casino and Ramona, New York, featuring USBA

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Speaker 3: Heavyweight Champion Brandon Moore defending his title against undefeated prospect

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Speaker 3: Stanley Wright in the main event, plus a stacked undercard

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Speaker 3: featuring world champion Franchion Foods Dessern and rising prospects JJ

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Speaker 3: Pagan and Devel Smith.

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Speaker 11: Sounds to me we're gonna have a great fight night,

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Speaker 11: and of course Sunday the ceremony to Inductor Class of

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty five legends like many pac Man pak Yao Michael,

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Speaker 11: second to none in Pasmanian Devil Vinnie Paz.

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Speaker 3: Joined All the Smoke, Fight and Salted Promotion at Turning

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Speaker 3: Stone Resort Casino for this year's International Boxing Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame Induction weekend.

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Speaker 2: Hey listen.

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Speaker 11: Visit Turningstone dot com for accommodations and tickets to Friday's

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Speaker 11: fight night. Visit IBHOF for the full Induction weekend schedule.