1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: What's up, people, it's your boy Camjay back with another 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now, as 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted to 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: reflect on some of the incredible guests I had the 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey, don't worry, though, 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: I got you. New episodes coming your way real soon. Relax, 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: I got you. But in the meantime, in between time, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: let's rewind and play back some of my favorite interviews 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: from season one. This week, I'm bringing you an interview 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: with the true leader of men, a New Orleans savior, 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: a man who's won a Super Bowl right down under 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: whether Super Bowl's coming up this upcoming year. Some call 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: him Breezes. I call him Drew Orleans. That's right, folks, 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about none other than my former quarterback, Drew Breeze. 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Take a listen, hey, it's my honor, my privilege of 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: bringing a teammate, a leader of sorts, a leader of men, 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: because beyond just football, he does everything well. I don't 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: know who he doesn't leave. You look up to him. 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: I look up to him. The world looks up to him. 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: It's Drew Orleans. Drew Breesiana. It's it's it's Drew's way. 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: It just is what it is. Drew Brees Breeziana. My 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: dog Mark V would hit him with all types of 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: nicknames while he was throwing nice ball number nine. I see, 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Drew Breesiana is sailing today. You know, those type of 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: situations as we were practiced from twenty eleven through twenty 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: twenty when I was teammates. He was part of the 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints from two thousand shit nine six two 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: thousand and six to twenty twenty, who fifteen years of 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Drew Brees. I appreciate you tapping in. 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: With me, big dog. 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cam, you know, off the Edge with Cam 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Jeordan Jay. 33 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: You make me feel good. Man, I missed I I 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: don't have a hype. I don't have a hype guy anymore. 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: You know. Ah when I'm just when I'm feeling down 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: or depressed or get you know, just like down on myself, 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: I just gotta I just gotta hit you up. You 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: you and Mark Man, y'all like ma yell a. 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: My guys, come on, man, you're you're my goat. You're 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: my go you know, like nobody in the history of 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: the NFL has ever thrown for four more five thousand 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: yard seasons. You know, now that you're retired, I can 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: say these things with confidence. 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna do it. 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, super Bowl MVP. You know been to Super 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Bowl should we could have gone back to two or 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: three of them in twenty eleven and twenty nineteen, like 48 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: could have could have been, could have been, records, could 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: have been, could have been us? 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: Hey, I wouldn't. I wouldn't trade it. I wouldn't. I 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't trade any of it. Man, those those those fifteen years, 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: and shoot, we had a lot. We had ten seasons together, 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Cam ten ten. I mean you're you're that. You came 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: in as that that young pup, you know, talented but 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: kind of big eyes right like trying to figure it out. 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: And now look at you, man, you're like you're the 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: old dog. You're the one everybody goes to giving out 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: words of wisdom and advice based on all this wealth 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: of knowledge and experience you have. 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: Now, Man, no doubt, who's who's who's your who's your 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: you know, who's your jeweler, Who's who's your sup guy? 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: Who's your Like, I'm like, did we get to football. Yeah, Hey, 63 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: who's like, who's your barber? I don't have a barber. 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: I've been doing my hair like for so long. I 65 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: got a great barber now. But like you know, like 66 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: who's your massuse? I can't get you my massuse because 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: I use him and I can't have him being too congested. 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's some secrets that just you know, can't 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: give out, you know. 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, But like I said, Leaders of Men, Drew, let's 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: talk about this. My kid plays in your league. I 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: say it's to Drew League. I believe the name of 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: the league is FNA. I call it Drew Orleans Ball. 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: But you started that up a couple of years back. 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: When did that start off? How did you get to 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: New Orleans? 77 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: I coach. I've coached just about all my my boys, 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: so let's see. It's hard to believe too. My boys 79 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: are now fourteen, thirteen and eleven, so ninth grade, seventh grade, 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: sixth grade. But I had a chance to coach him 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: all the way up. So yeah, we we started. Yeah, 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: our bailing. It was actually this started when Baalin was 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: in kindergarten. He was playing in a flag football league 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: and it was a good league. But it was one 85 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: of those things where I just saw all kinds of 86 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: areas where it could improve, from just the overall family 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: experience to the rules to and then it really just 88 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: got me on this path of you know, youth football 89 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: is interesting because, yeah, once you get to tackle, it 90 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: is what it is. But the flag game is so 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: so different because a there's all these different leagues and 92 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: they're playing by different rules. Some are five on five, 93 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: some aer six on six, some are seven on seven. 94 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: Different field size is different, flag like all kinds of stuff. 95 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, how do I standardize this to 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: a point where this becomes the type of flag football 97 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: that's played that everybody really embraced. Is because it's safe, 98 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: it's fun, and it prepares kids in the best way 99 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: for tackle football if they choose to want to go 100 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: on and play tackle. So that was really the kind 101 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: of the objective was how do we create the gold 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: standard for flag football that kids can play and enjoy 103 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: with with like the reality that you know, maybe thirty 104 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: to forty percent of all the kids that play flag 105 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: football end up going on and playing tackle, But that's 106 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: not the point. The point, I think for me and 107 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: for you is football has meant so much in our life, 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: and it's it's taught us so much about life. We've 109 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: developed so many traits, qualities, attributes as a result of football, 110 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: and I think it's important that every kid gets a 111 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: chance to experience that. And it doesn't have to be 112 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: the tackle level, but how can we help them develop 113 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: a love and a passion for the game that they'll 114 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: carry with them forever. And if it wasn't for flag football, 115 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: they may never get a chance to experience it. So 116 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: how do we create the experience possible? So that's that 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: was like the origin and I think the you know, 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: really the story behind howf ANDA started, and that was 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen in New Orleans. We started off with 120 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: three leagues and then brought it to California, and then 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: the leagues started popping up in Texas and in the 122 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Midwest and other places. So now we've got thirty leagues nationwide, 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: represented about eight states. And it's awesome, man, it's awesome. Right. 124 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: I was like, it's taken off my daughter, My five 125 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: year old Nia, plays flag in football. She just scored 126 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: her first she just scored her first touchdown this past weekend, 127 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: and as a dad, I was like, oh, she's finally 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: in there. Because at five years old, you usually have 129 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: like the really really good kids that I swear have 130 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: been training since birth, and you have everybody else at 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: a five years old, they're just like, oh and there's 132 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: an ant hill right here, and just the gay man. 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: It's like complete opposites. And now, like you know, you 134 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: see that difference. But she just scored her first touchdown 135 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: and previously she was on soccer and now she's like, Dad, 136 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: I like playing flag football. I was like, hey, baby, 137 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: that's all I want to do, expose you to something different. 138 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, here's the other thing is, you know, they 139 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: just they just made the announcement last week that flag 140 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: football will be in the twenty twenty eight Olympics in 141 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, unveiled October. It's going to be a five 142 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: on five version, which I think is probably more appropriate 143 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: just as you think about, you know, the worldwide kind 144 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: of embracing of the sport of football that probably kind 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: of brings to competitive levels, you know, more more equal 146 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: to you know, you know, across all countries. But you 147 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: saw it this year with what they did with NFL 148 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: teams basically having a chance to partner with different countries. 149 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: Like I went over to France on behalf of the Saints, 150 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, so that France is kind of like our 151 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: sister country, you know, from the New Orleans Saints. So 152 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: it's one of our charges now, you know, across all 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: the NFL teams is to you know, partner with a 154 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: country around the world and then help provide support resources 155 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: to help grow the game of football in those countries, 156 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: so that here in five years we're going to have 157 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: young young men and young ladies out there representing their 158 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: countries playing flag football. So what a great way to 159 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: continue to grow the sport around the world. And also 160 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: I think for young girls, give them a vision for 161 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: what's possible. Right Like, young girls up until this point 162 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: have been playing flag football, and hey, it's fun, but 163 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: at some point it ends. Well right now, doesn't necessarily 164 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: have to end right like that chance on and represent 165 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: your country at the Olympics, becoming a list and doing that. 166 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Drew, I'm not saying you're timeless, but I'm saying, like 167 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: you were slinging the rocket forty years old, twenty twenty eight, 168 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: are you are you? Are you still gonna try and 169 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: get out there and sling that thing? One good time. 170 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I seen Look, I. 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: Just saw you. 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: I just saw you last weekend, Drew. I saw the heater. 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: I saw the heater with the left. 174 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: Did you see how I was gonna say? You saw 175 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: me throwing left? Look if I trained, Man, it's so tampting, Bro, it's. 176 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: So tamped I might change. This is about twenty twenty eight, 177 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: Like I may lose thirty to try and get in. 178 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: Bro, I would. I'm more so I think I've passed 179 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: the baton on to the young, to the young Breeze kids, 180 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And to Tank, to Tank Jordan. 181 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think I think we're passing 182 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: the baton on to the next generation to go represent 183 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: the US and the Olympics. 184 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like your oldest kid to be like eighteen 185 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: or nineteen. 186 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like we're 187 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: here right about time. 188 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Member, Hey, I might I might have to hold it 189 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: down for the joy and try and just drop thirty. 190 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, what's up? I'm here for this five 191 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: on five? 192 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Uh Megan, Megan, Mega Tribe. 193 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Hey, treat, treat me like Jimmy 194 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: and Jimmy in twenty thirteen, if you see me in 195 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: en zone, you know it's good. 196 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: Right right? TDB? That was that was That was Jimmy 197 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: and My saying back in the day. TDB stand for 198 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: throw me, throw me damn if I'm if I'm in 199 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: the in zone, I'm open. Okay, nobody else around here 200 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: in six seventy I'm open. Nobody. 201 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Nobody know why I've never actually asked you this question, 202 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm just thinking. I'm thinking like draft comparables, 203 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: because now I got I'm thinking about my kids in 204 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: the draft, Your kids in the draft. Every year they 205 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: come out with like those comparables, right the next Cam Jordan, 206 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: the next you know, I have not seen the next 207 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. And is there one? Have you ever seen 208 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: somebody comparative? And I only bring this up because Toron 209 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: said two is like the next Drew Brees. Toron arms 210 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: it over in Miami was like, man, he's got a 211 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of measurables, a lot of comparables to Drew Brees. 212 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: And I said, huh. 213 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I think I think the first I 214 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: think the first thing, Well, first off, everybody and Look, 215 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: Sean Pagne used to say this all the time, Like 216 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: we sit around and talk about personnel. You know, you're 217 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: trying to see how different guys fit into the system, 218 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: whether it's offense or defense. And look, we're all visual people, 219 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: and so if you can anytime you can take someone 220 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: and and give them a comparison, I think it just 221 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: gives you an immediate vision as to oh, okay, like now, 222 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: now I see how that guy fits into this offense 223 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: because I know the guy's skill set that you were 224 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: just talking about. If we're saying this guy can eventually 225 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: be that guy, all right, I've got a vision for him. Right, So, 226 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: I think the first the first thing I think of 227 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: when somebody says like, oh, that's a Drew Brees. First off, 228 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: you're talking about a short quarterback. Like, let's just be honest, 229 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: you you're talking about a guy who's like, you know, 230 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: on the shorter side, right, so maybe part of the 231 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: six foot and under like yours truly right here? Whoa 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: a bro? I appreciate that it's babe, But I like 233 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: to think that we've changed the perception or the misconception 234 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: about the short quarterback. Right Like back when I was 235 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: first coming into the league like that was a big deal. 236 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: Even ten years ago, that was a big deal. I 237 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: think enough has happened now where you see the Russell Wilson's, 238 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: the Kyler Murray's, the Baker mayfields some of these other 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: guys now that are man, they're like six foot six one, 240 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: and I don't even it's not even discussed anymore. Like 241 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: that used to be the first thing out of somebody's 242 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: mouth if they were trying to, you know, talk bad 243 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: about a kid coming out of my eyes he's only 244 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: six foot. Nobody says that anymore, Right, So, I think 245 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: the game has evolved and changed enough to where maybe 246 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: that misconception's gone. But then, like, let's look at the 247 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: other things. Okay, I was never the strongest armed guy, 248 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: right Like, I felt like I could make all the throws, 249 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: but I was forced to throw with anticipation because it 250 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, maybe I didn't have as strong and all 251 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: arm as some of the other guys in the league. 252 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: Well what is throwing with anticipation force you to do? 253 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: It forces you to be prepared and to be on 254 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: the same page with your receivers, to have incredible chemistry, 255 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: to know what the defense is because You've got to 256 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: know where defenders are and where they're not, because guess what, 257 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: you aren't always going to see those defenders, but you're 258 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: going to know the spot and you're gonna have to 259 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: trust that. I've always felt like accuracy is trust and anticipation, right, Trust, 260 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: trust to play, trust the coverage, trust the guy you're 261 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: throwing to anticipate the throw, and the ball is where 262 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: it needs to be. And you got to expect your 263 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: gott to be there too. Why do you expect them 264 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: to do that because you've worked at it? Right, because 265 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: you worked at it. 266 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Did you develop that and Purdue or the Chargers or 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: when did you didn't? Just like you weren't straight out 268 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: of Texas. Like anticipation, I got no, but I kind 269 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: of was, though. 270 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: I mean that's to me that that's always been my 271 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: survival mechanism. You know, like you learn to survive, right, 272 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: I mean call it what you want animals in the wild, 273 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: like right, like you chameleons changing color so they don't 274 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: get attacked or you know, like like they blend in 275 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: Like that's you. You have to do what you have 276 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: to do in order to survive and get the job done. 277 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: And so if you're not a strong arm guy. You 278 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: have to learn to throw with anticipation or else ball's 279 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: not going to get there on time. Ball's going to 280 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: get knocked down, picked off. I'm not going to succeed. 281 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: So I look at guys like toa, I look at 282 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: guys like Brock Purty. To me, maybe those are two 283 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: of the guys that are most similar from the perspective 284 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: of Hey, they're shorter quarterbacks, right, they're not the strongest 285 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: armed guys. I would say, look man like, they've got 286 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: a lot of experience. I mean, to two had a 287 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: lot of college snaps. Brock Party at Iowa State had 288 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: a lot of college snaps. I was a three year 289 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: starter in college. I think that's something that as scouts 290 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: look at, you know, young qbs that can't be underestimated, 291 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: and that is their experienced level in college. Like look 292 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: at the hype that was put around guys like Trubisky, 293 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: Trey Lance. And I'm not saying those guys aren't going 294 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: to become, you know, great players, but those guys only 295 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: had eleven games or less in college. Right, So you 296 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: think about the number of games, the number snaps, the 297 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: amount of experience, Like you kind of expect them to 298 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: come in and be this world beater. Well, no, that 299 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: takes time, right, It takes time because it takes experience, 300 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: and it takes reps and just time on task. Right. 301 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: So I think these are all things that as you 302 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: look at like this next generation of QBS man, experience 303 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: in college is so important, right, and then you know what, 304 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: height's no longer an issue, Like can this dude process 305 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: the game? Does he have leadership ability? Can he throw anticipation? 306 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: You know? Is can he you know? Does he fight 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: back from adversity? Like does he have some mental toughness 308 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: and fortitude like overcome tough situations because everybody's going to 309 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: face those tough situations even within the course of the game. 310 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: Does this guy have a mechanism where he can move 311 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: on from bad plays and get on to the next 312 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: play and not let that effect you know what's going 313 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: to hap and next to get right back on track. 314 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Can you quantify that as an attribute? Though? Like can 315 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: you be like, oh, what is his mentality as from 316 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: drafting somebody Like you're like, oh, you can you can 317 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: only deal with your tangibles? How do you Is there 318 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: a gauge for that? 319 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: Well, no, I'd say this, like, man, like I'm going 320 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: to bring up names that that you know because we 321 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: played with these guys. Like Pierre Thomas was the first 322 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: guy that came to mind. Pierre Thomas, undrafted free agent 323 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: out of University Illinois. Right, nobody's heard of Pierre Thomas. 324 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: Now if you really start looking at it, Pierre Thomas, 325 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: I think was the all time Big Ten yardage leader 326 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: in return yards in the history of the Big Ten. 327 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: Like nobody would ever know that, But like that tells 328 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: me this dude does stuff when he has the ball 329 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: in his hands, all right, number one, number two, This 330 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: dude comes in and basically makes our twenty seventeen by 331 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: blocking like two punts in pre season because we had 332 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: drafted Antonio Pittman a Roman round the fourth round right 333 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: that year, And here's Tt coming in as an undrafted 334 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: free agent, and basically he's only going to make the 335 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: team on special teams, right, So he ends up making 336 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: the team, But he plays so well in the preseason 337 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: that like we're forced to cut this other guy, right, 338 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: and then he starts off the year at like four 339 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: string running back. He blocks upon on Sunday Night football 340 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: at Seattle when they're undefeated No. Seven, right, and then 341 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: before the end of the year. This dude's the starter. 342 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: The last Dame was Teason who played at Chicago and 343 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: one hundred yards rushing, one hundred yards receiving. It's like 344 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: the first time it's ever been done in Saint's history. 345 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: Drew Drew, what year is that? And why do you remember? 346 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: Dude? I got because I got crazy recall when it 347 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: comes to this kind of stuff, because like these are 348 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: life lessons, right, Like these are the things that I'll 349 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: sit up at night and tell my kids, or like 350 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: something will happen in a game and I'll be like, 351 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: let me tell your story. Let me tell you a 352 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: story about somebody. Right, And like Peter Thomas, here's the 353 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: dude who was just constantly sold short, like man, you're 354 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: not good enough, We're not going to draft you, Like 355 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: you don't have to make the team on special teams 356 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: that like, this dude did nothing but earn it, like 357 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: every single day, right until all of a sudden it 358 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: was time for him to get his opportunity. And guess what, 359 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: he was ready. He was ready, and he wasn't afraid 360 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: of failure. He wasn't afraid of adversity. He wasn't afraid 361 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: of challenges or stuff being hard because they'd been through it. Man, 362 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: he's been through it his whole life, right all the 363 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: way up through his career too. How many times have 364 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: we seen guys come in this league and man, it's 365 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: just been spoon fed to him. It's been given to him. 366 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: They never really had to never really had to face 367 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: it like that kind of adversity or earn it like 368 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: it's it's just been coddled a little bit and all 369 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: of a sudden stuff gets hard, you know, And I've 370 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: never had to face this before. I don't know what 371 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: this is like. And then going to tank and they 372 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: don't have that mechanism just to be able to like, man, 373 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: this is just part of life, right, this is what's 374 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: here to make me better, and you know, like, I'm 375 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: ready for this. It's a it's it's it's probably the 376 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: main thing that's wrong with the transfer portal right now. 377 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: You're just you're just making it easy on everybody. Oh, 378 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: you're you're unhappy, Okay, you can you always have an out. Well, 379 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: guess what happens if you be in a situation where 380 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: you don't have an out and you got to figure 381 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: it out, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's we 382 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: are depriving a lot of these college kids the opportunity 383 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: to face adversity and to develop the traits and attributes 384 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna help them be the best they can be, 385 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: not just in in athletics. 386 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: But in life on and off the field. 387 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: Driving these kids, man, let's let's make them work for it, 388 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: make them earn it. I'll get off my soalbox now care. 389 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm with you, but I also I'll 390 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: be seeing these kids leave for these bigger nil deals 391 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: And I'm like, and that's what you get when you 392 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: ball out, you get a bigger call. I said, that's yeah. 393 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: So what do we Yeah, so what's what are we putting? 394 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: What are we putting the priority on? Are we putting 395 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: on education? Are we putting on being in the best system, 396 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: the best program, the best coach, like the best environment? No? 397 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: Maybe, hey, maybe you know, if you're if you're leaving 398 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: you know, like uh, Ohio State, and you you know, 399 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: because you're not star in there or whatever it is, 400 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: and you get a transfer into like a University of California, Berkeley, 401 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: You've just elevated your education right there. 402 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: Boom. But how hard is it to be a college 403 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: coach right now? 404 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: Man? Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt. My d my 405 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: D line coach now is a DC over at Oregon, 406 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: Or my D line coach from college that cal is 407 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: a DC over at Oregon. And I mean luckily they 408 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: have forty five different jerseys every other week, so I 409 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: mean it's probably a little easier his ways. But it's yeah, 410 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: these kids don't care. They're going for a dollar signs. 411 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: Out unless your name is coach prime or you have 412 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: an endless budget, right Nick, say the right like you? 413 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: It's so hard, man, it's so this Actually in IOL 414 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: is the non in IOL transfer portal is the best 415 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: thing for Alabama. It's the best way for Alabama. You 416 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: know why because Alabama can never make a bad investment. Now, 417 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: never make a bad What if I told you Cam 418 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: that you could invest money into something and if it 419 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: doesn't work out, you just get your money back and 420 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: you can move on to the next one, like you'd 421 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: never go wrong. Right. My point is this, Alabama's recruiting 422 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: pitch to kids is, hey, come here, we'll coach your heart. 423 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 2: We'll get the best out of you. Every year. We're 424 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: going to bring in the best players, and if it 425 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: doesn't work out for it, you can transfer and give 426 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: us back that scholarship. How about that, right? 427 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: And so it works both ways. 428 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, it's really good for Alabama. Think about it. 429 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: Otherwise that would have to be really selected, right, because 430 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you recruit a kid, he comes in, 431 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: maybe he's not what you thought he was. You're stuck 432 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: with him. You're not stuck with him anymore. You just 433 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: you just treat him like practice so thieves, and then 434 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: you take a scholarship back and you just go make 435 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: another investment. You never lose, man, you never lose. 436 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: I mean that's the I hate now that you say 437 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm formulating, what's what's going wrong? I'm like, all right, no, 438 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: that that that creates a lot of holes in the things. 439 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: Like these kids. Yeah absolutely, So Now where do these 440 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: kids formulate the mindset to become a leader like you? Like, 441 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: in my mind in college, like that's how I became 442 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: a leader. It was like that freshman. Be sure, I 443 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: was a true freshman. So like I fought to get 444 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: playing time. I fought, you know, I was on all 445 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: special teams. In my mind, I just popped off my 446 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: freshman season. I made the first tackle on kickoff against 447 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee at Cal right, and I was like I had 448 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: to work my way up even you know, like that 449 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: made me who I was. I looked at a defensive 450 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: end opposite of me, Tyson Lulu, who ended up going 451 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville Jaguars, like top ten picks or whatever. 452 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: It was like there was a mission there. I was like, 453 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: I want to be better than him. There's like, you know, 454 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: goals there. There was never leave Cal. I guess it 455 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: was like, how do I make the best of this 456 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: four years that I have? 457 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, So let's be honest. Like there was moments 458 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: during my freshman year where I questioned myself. I questioned, 459 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: you know, was like doing the right thing? Was I 460 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: in the right environment, was on the right situation? Like 461 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: every I think every kid has those feelings and emotions 462 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: perfectly natural. But if the answer to that is stuck 463 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: it up, like learning him adversity, it's supposed to be hard. 464 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: Embrace the challenge. You're not going anywhere like then you 465 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: you work through it. On the other hand, if it 466 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: is hey, it's okay, you can just leave, you can 467 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna you can just hit the reset button on 468 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: your video game controller. Right, you're having a bad game, 469 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: you just hit the reset button and just go somewhere 470 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: else and just start over. Right, It's okay. And oh 471 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: guess what if it doesn't work out there, let's just 472 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: reset it again. Let's just keep let's just keep kicking 473 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: this can down the road. Let's just keep transferring out 474 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: till you find so like, come on, come on now, look, 475 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. At some point, like look, Joe 476 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: Burrow is a perfect example. He goes Ohio State Red Shirts, 477 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: sits for two years, gets beat out, gets beat out, 478 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: timing again. So you know what, I'm gonna transfer out. 479 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: But man, he was there three seasons at least, I believe, 480 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: And so he's man, he's had to fight through it. 481 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: He's had to struggle, he's had to Now he's got 482 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 2: a giant chip on his shoulder when he leaves three 483 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: years later, and look what happens when he goes to LSU. 484 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: So look, there are there are successful examples of that, 485 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: but it was after a period of time where they 486 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: had to like get through the fire a bit. You know, 487 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: they had to suffer a bit. And I'm sure I'm 488 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: sure that that Joe Burrow would would would recognize the 489 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: value of being at Ohio State for three years. 490 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: It probably, i mean probably made him up more of 491 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: a more of a leader because he valued it that 492 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: much more. 493 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: There's no question. Man, I'll tell you what really comes 494 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: as a results. That as gratitude, And that's probably the 495 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: greatest trait than any of us could have. His gratitude. 496 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: Drew to beck to you with that added to your 497 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: leadership qualities, Like when did you become a leader? Because 498 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: when I got there, you already had the huddle chance going, 499 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: And like when did you become a leader? You weren't 500 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: just a born leader or maybe you were. Texas football 501 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: is different. I don't know. 502 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: I say this, I'd say I've always loved sports, right, 503 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: I've always gravitated sports. You know. Sports always gave me 504 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: great confidence, you know. I always felt like I was 505 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: an athletic kid, you know, so I could pick up 506 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: the sport and I could, you know, usually figure it 507 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: out pretty quick, you know, and then I'd be good 508 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: at it, and then that would build self esteem and 509 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: all that stuff. So I've always wanted to be the 510 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: guy who had the ball in his hands. Right. If 511 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm playing basketball, I'm either the point guard of the 512 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: shooting yard. If I'm playing baseball, I needed the picture 513 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: of the shortstop, right, Like the list goes on, right, 514 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: Like I want to be the dude with a ball 515 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: in his hands. Who's going to win the game, right, 516 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: or who's in charge, who's in control of the moment 517 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: in the situation, right, and getting people on the same 518 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: page and all that, Like I did that, Like that's 519 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: arrive on that stuff, right. So I do think there 520 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: is some some innate stuff that happens with that where 521 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: you can just see it in some kids, right, Like 522 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: when you're on the field, you're like, man, that guy's 523 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: got some natural leadership ability, right. But so much of 524 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: what I learned through the years was from having great mentors, 525 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: from being around incredible players, like watching guys Like when 526 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: I stepped into the locker room my rookie year, I 527 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: was staring at Junior Sayout and Rodney Harrison on the 528 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: other side of the ball, and I was terrified of 529 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: these dudes, but like also like just profound respect because 530 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: these dudes were the first one there. They were working 531 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: their ass off, like during practice, man they did not 532 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: let anything slide nothing, So like they set the tone 533 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: early as to this is the level of expectation, this 534 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 2: is the way that we operate around here, and if 535 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: you don't like it, then get them out right, like 536 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: you had to get in line. And then I'm alongside 537 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: Ladanian Tomlinson, right, and then Lorenzo Neil comes in, who 538 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: was an awesome mental for me. I had Doug Flutie there, 539 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: I mean, and then you know, I'm playing for Marty Shaunhan, 540 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: one of the greatest coaches of all time. That I 541 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: come to New Orleans and it's Sean Payton and it's 542 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: all the guys like you and others that we played 543 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: with that I had a chance to be around every 544 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 2: day and like woke up every day wanting to go 545 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: win for so like you're so much of a product 546 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: of your environment and those that you're surrounded with, and 547 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: they just bring out the best in you. Like I've 548 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 2: always felt like, what's the best leadership traite, Like if 549 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: you were boil it down, what's the best description of 550 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: a leader. It's someone who can bring out the best 551 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: in other people. And that's done in a lot of 552 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: different ways, right, Like I would call Marcus Colston and 553 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: Darren Sproll's leaders. Those guys, as you know, did not 554 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: say much, but all you had to do was watch 555 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: them work. And if that didn't inspire you, then I 556 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: don't know if you got a heartbeat. Right, Like those 557 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: dude would come to work and work their tail off, 558 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: and like I was so inspired by those guys every day. 559 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: So I just I feel like I'm just a product 560 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: of being around some great people, right. 561 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean you say that and you can you know, 562 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Marcus Colston nine went down in our seasons called him 563 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: the quiet Storm, But it does say something for the 564 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: guys who work and talk and inspire, because you can 565 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: be inspired by watching anybody, you know, but when you 566 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: talk that talk and you walk that walk, then like 567 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: that's where, in my mind become a leader. Like you 568 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: can dub anybody a captain. I feel like a captain 569 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: is a patch. A leader is something more Like it 570 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: feels like a leader is a rally point. And that's 571 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: what I like to be. Like I want to be 572 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: a rally point because I'm balling because I'm doing things 573 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: the right way. Like you look, you just gravitate towards 574 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: all right. Well, if he's doing this, I can push 575 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: myself to be more. So that's why you were a 576 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: rally point, like a leader. You know, there's certain guys 577 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: you just look for, like or the amount of work 578 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: that he puts in, I gotta put in more. Like 579 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: you're challenged me to be better, you know. Like that's 580 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: what I like. Like, Oh, we talk, we talk about excellence. Well, 581 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: that's why we're being excellent because there's so many things 582 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: that were going on. But now that I got to 583 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: this podcast, what do you see from this first seven 584 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: weeks of New Orleans States football? And how can that 585 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: be cleared up and or get better? How to assess 586 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: us let's go with that work. 587 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think I think defensively, you guys 588 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: have been pretty consistent. I think offensively it's been it's 589 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: been a bit inconsistent. I think there's as you look 590 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: at as you look at every game you've played, I 591 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: think you would look at and say, man, there's no 592 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: reason why you couldn't have won all of them. I 593 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: know Tampa Tampa got all out of control, right, But 594 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: but besides that, I mean, you guys could be sitting 595 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: here at whatever. 596 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: Seven one one are. We could be sitting at six 597 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: and one. 598 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: Respectively, just right, So, so you know that part is 599 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: kind of frustrating because, uh, I think you know that 600 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: there's more in the tank. Look, I think all the 601 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: pieces are there. Like it'd be one thing if you 602 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: were sitting here saying, man, I think you know you've 603 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: had some significant injuries or you know you're just you're 604 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: really missing some key components. I don't. I don't think 605 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: you are at all. I don't think you're at all. 606 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: I think it's certainly as I look at it, like 607 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: I look offensive side of the ball. You know, Man, 608 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: when we go up tempo, I think we are highly effective. 609 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: I think that creates a great rhythm for the offense. 610 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: I think that's when we are at our best. I 611 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: think that was shown in the fourth quarter of the 612 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: other night. Right we get down all of a sudden, 613 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: we're up temple. Man, We're moving the ball right down 614 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: the field, and I'm probably it's not like they were 615 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: just playing prevent and letting it happen. I mean they were. 616 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: They were running the same pressures, they were doing the 617 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: same stuff they're doing the whole game. We were just 618 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: a bit more on point because we had this rhythm 619 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: and this slow going. 620 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: Sense of urgency. I feel like when we go when 621 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: teams go huddle up, it's either one they're trying to 622 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: slow the defense down or two their desperation is kicked in. 623 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would say this, man, we have 624 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: always been an offense that had a lot of things 625 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: for a defense to worry about. You got Kamara in 626 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: the backfield, you got tight ends that are explosed. So 627 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: if you've got receivers all over the place, playmakers that 628 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: are tough one on one matchups. Right, So I still 629 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: feel like that is the case, right, Like I still 630 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: see Mike t being a guy who can catch seven 631 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: or eight balls a game. I see dudes in Olave 632 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: and Shaheed that are like meets him and deverywhere for 633 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: us back you know in that that that window from 634 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: seven to thirteen where like air raid, like push the 635 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: ball down the field. You know when you get in 636 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: the red zone. We said it earlier in the in 637 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: the in the show, Well if if if Jimmy standing 638 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: in the end zone, I don't care who's there or 639 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: who's covering him, that that would be a great that'd 640 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: be a great spot to use him. I mean, look, 641 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: there's Taysom Hill is like, I'm I'm still amazed like 642 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: everything that I see from him, and I should know better. 643 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: I should know better because I've seen everything this dude 644 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: can do. And yet I'm sitting there watching the game 645 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 2: on Thursday night and the guy was the tight end 646 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: in two minutes. He probably had thirty five snaps at 647 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: the tight end position, in addition to quarterback, in addition 648 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: to running back, and addition all these other positions that 649 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: he plays. And it's still like, man, it's like he's 650 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: one of the greatest weapons in the league, right, And 651 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: so I think, like, if anything, that would just get 652 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 2: me really excited. And as this continues to unfold, I 653 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 2: think with more of a tempo and just kind of 654 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, creating the rhythm, getting the ball into these 655 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: playmakers hands in space right, which we've got plenty of them, 656 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: and then just finding those matchup problems that we've got 657 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: them all over the field. I think that we're in 658 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: a great spot. I really do. 659 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much potential we have to capitalize. 660 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Like now it's becoming you know, we used to have 661 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: those gotta habit wins. It's becoming in that sense, of 662 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: like we have to be able to turn it on now, 663 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, and you knows, as you've taught me over 664 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: the years. Leadership is so important in these in these 665 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: locker rooms, this locker room feel, it's leadership, and it's 666 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: these rally points that this is where you take that Hey, 667 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: okay with three and four, this is how we go 668 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: beyond that next step. It's time to elevate, and it 669 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: starts with the leaders up top. So I appreciate you 670 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: tune the number. I know you got things you got 671 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: to do. I wanted to talk about pickaball and how 672 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: your game is because I still have yet to do it, 673 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that in another day. I just 674 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: want to know it's being a pickaball owner. 675 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: Will you get We've got to get the Saints to 676 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: build a couple of Pickaball courts right there next to 677 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: the indoor facility, and we can get some games going, 678 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: all right, like a little off season, maybe a little 679 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: Tuesday off day run around, you know, like let's let's 680 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: get this going. 681 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're already a pick aball team owner. How 682 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: much longer do I have to wait till I just 683 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: hear that ticker go across Drew Brees. He miss, yeah, 684 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: come on, I'm just saying fine, say no. 685 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I like leaving it to the pros there. 686 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: You know, I'll just I'll just kind of, you know, 687 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: just be working behind the scenes here. 688 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect. Appreciate you chopping in, bro. So there you 689 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: have it. It's a round. I just want to say 690 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: a huge thank you to all my awesome listeners for 691 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: with me. I've got a whole locker room full of 692 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: my favorite interviews from season one coming your way. But 693 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: before I go, you know the drill. Come on now. 694 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: Make sure to drop us a five star rating or 695 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: review and hit that follow button on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio 696 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also 697 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: catch us on YouTube on the official YouTube page of 698 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. Until next time, I'm out.