1 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegurra. 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Alright, let's you live on a first Friday, a miracle 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: edition of the program. Merely Bo the Great Z. We 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: had football today, baby, and you got to see it. 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: We're back. Tell us everything you saw, ready, go? How 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: long ago? How many? How many seconds are on there? 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: You have one hour and fifty eight minutes to go. 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: Well, then I better pace myself. I better pace myself. 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Brother, It's really important. 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: If you said ninety seconds, I could have given you everything. 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Look, you got two hours, okay I needed. I mean, 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: I think you just take a real smart pace. Okay, 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: smart pace, all right, so very smart pace to this. 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: What I saw was, generally speaking, I thought, very good attendance. 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: Your entire cornerback room was here, Denzel MJ. Greg Newsom, 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: Grant Delpit was out there, and the number nine looking spectacular. 21 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: He is he is let the hair go natural Andy 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: Dickerson style, so he kind of poofs out of his 23 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: helmet and look with a visor. 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: He looks. Yeah, he's always looking. It looks incredible, look 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, it looks incredible. 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: Both Jordan Hicks and j Oka were here at the 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: linebacker position. And then you know, you had everybody up 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: front other than than Miles and Dalvin as well. So defensively, 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: pretty whole. Offensively, you had everybody out there except for 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: Beotonio chief Amari. That was pretty much it. So, yeah, 31 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: the good portion of your starters there. Obviously not everybody, 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: it is the voluntary period, but you had a good 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: chunk of people there. And one of the things that 34 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: one of the things that actually stood out to me 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: was was Jerry Judy, which I think is a very 36 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: very good thing. So if you're gonna say, you know 37 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: a couple things that stood out to me. Number one, 38 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: Jerry Judy has an ability to make people look silly 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: with his routes that I don't know that I've seen 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: that kind of silliness in terms of the way people 41 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: have reacted to a couple of his routes out there 42 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: since that, like Odell when O'Dell was here and was 43 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: having people kind of fall down and yeah, creating insane separation, 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: so he did that a couple times today, so that 45 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: was you can tell he's just a very natural and 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: explosive mover, very twitchy, very twitchy, so he definitely was 47 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: was a standout to me. I thought Cedriac Tillman, Cedric 48 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Tillman was playing faster, was a big target for Jamis 49 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: Winston matic a nice touchdown in the red zone area. 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: He looked good and he's getting because no Omari No Elijah, 51 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: Elijah Moore also not there with those guys out, he's running. 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: Him and Judy are running as the top two, and 53 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: then David Bell. You have Jamari Thrash who made some 54 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 3: nice plays. He is not six to one. I don't 55 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: know where that came. Like he's he he's just shorter 56 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: than the people that are six to one. 57 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: But he can run. Yeah, he can run. 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: Steve Smith loved him in this draft. He looked pretty good. 59 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: And Mike Woods looked pretty good coming back from his 60 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: his injury a year ago, so I thought they all 61 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: look good. And then obviously Jamis can still throw at football, 62 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: I mean, never been a problem. No, not a problem, 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: and took care of the ball nicely, so I thought, 64 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, offensively that's what you saw. You don't really 65 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: see anything much in the run game, you know what 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: I mean. It was good to see Dwand out there 67 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: in kind of like the offensive line drills, but not 68 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: in the team periods. Jed Wills was still rehabbing back, 69 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: but it's just good to It was good to see heruddy. 70 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: But what Jamis's ability to throw the ball stood out. 71 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: Deshaun took all the first team reps and everything, but 72 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: then just actually didn't throw the ball. So he's throwing 73 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: it on Tuesdays and Thursdays with Wednesdays off, and so 74 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: we'll see if we'll shift that for a coverage sake 75 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: going forward in terms of when the media can come 76 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 3: out and see him. But he looks He looked great 77 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: in terms of just he could tell he's having fun, 78 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 3: his posture, all of that was taking all the reps 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: even when he wasn't taking the reps, was taking mental reps. 80 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought offensively. 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: And then Deontay Foreman is a big guy and he's 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: wearing twenty seven, you know, so you can get kareem 83 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: obviously naturally, but he looks like he's got some good 84 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: juice to him in between. You know him and Ford 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: and Pierre. There's some juice in that running back room 86 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: flipping around. Defensively, again, it's mostly seven on sevens. Yeah, 87 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: there's not much you can do defensively when our starting 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: corners are out there. It was they were pretty good. Yeah, 89 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: they're pretty good. Mj Bal didn't even go near him, 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: not once. And Denzel had a good one where he 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: was covering Judy and forced Jamis to tried to put 92 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: it in a real tight window and he just missed 93 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: the throw. It was incomplete. J Okay looked so fast, 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: blew up a couple of plays in the team thing 95 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: was like tackle for loss, tackle for laws, rack them up, Hicks. 96 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: Hicks looks great out there. And then Nathaniel Watson, the 97 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: rookie that we talked about, got the only interception of 98 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: the day. It was the last play in the red zone. 99 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: It was like a fourth down situation. Huntley tried to 100 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: force one into Jerome Ford, who kind of crossed the 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: face but then didn't stick with it. Watson bodied him up, 102 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: caught it, and then the whole defense went running down 103 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: the field with him, and a whole big celebration ensued, 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: and then that was the final play of the day 105 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: of practice. 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: But all in all was good. 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: I saw some interesting things things I've never seen before. 108 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: Bill musk Grave was in some of the A lot 109 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: of the quarterback drills that they're doing, so talking about 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: more RPOs right yep, are all kind of rpo bass 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: So inside hand off they would give it off every time, 112 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: but then they throw the quarterback the ball and then 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: he'd throw the bubble screen to the outside, or they 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: would do a handoff this way and he would boot 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: around and so then they toss them ball and then 116 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: he would throw it. Now he was throwing the ball 117 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: to musk Grave who was out there with a first 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: baseman's mit really and was catching the footballs with the 119 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: first base so kind of caught it here and then 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: his other hand kind just come over. I've never seen it. 121 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: He caught everyone didn't drop one really like the big floppy. 122 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: First base, big old first basement big. I mean it 123 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: makes sense, like you you know, you want to catch, 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: you know, you catch a bunch of passes from those 125 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: guys over and over again, like you break your fingers, 126 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: break your hand, so like, yeah, get the glove up there. 127 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: Did you notice that Gibb. 128 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: I was working on the stream. Thanks to Connor's help, 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: We're good now. 130 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: Connor musk Grave catching with a basement's met. 131 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 5: Cool. 132 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: So I walked by Musgrave and had an unbelievable conversation 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: right in the middle of the running backs working out. 134 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: He's like, hey, do you smell that? And I was like, coach, 135 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: what are you talking about? He goes, Gibs, you smell that? 136 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? And it points over at 137 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: Frayne and he's like, that's where it's coming from. I 138 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: was like, excuse me, jeez. 139 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 5: He was. 140 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: He was loving every minute. He was lining up against 141 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: the wide receivers like they were doing some walkthroughs and 142 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: he wanted to go as a dB. 143 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: I love it. He was great. That is great, so 144 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: very very good. It's good. I can't go any further 145 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: on this show without getting a better look at the 146 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: hat you're wearing. I need to see I don't. I 147 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: can't recognize what that is. It's an incredible Oh my god, 148 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: it is what I thought. I could not see the 149 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: writing on it. It's gorgeous. What a crust. It's beautiful, right, 150 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: It's some unbelievable have. 151 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: A little Croatian that is the crust of Croatia with 152 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: my family name on the top of it. 153 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: It's fantastic. I've not seen this, but the cook, the 154 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: cook got it for me as a gift. Very fine, 155 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: A fine gift from fine gift, very fine gift. Okay, Now, 156 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: Watson didn't throw, no, so a great deal of dialogue 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: about that this morning. But there's a pretty simple reason 158 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: for it. Go, he's throwing every other day. 159 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: He's not throwing two consecutive days, and they have three 160 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: days of practice this so to make him throw on 161 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: two of those days, heros Tuesdays and Thursdays. Wednesday is 162 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: his day off, but not from everything, obviously, but just 163 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: from throwing the football. So that's part of the rehab 164 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: that's been prescribed by his doctors and the training staff. 165 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: And so that's the way it is. 166 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: I think that we'll get an opportunity going forward to. 167 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,239 Speaker 2: See, you know, if. 168 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 3: They maybe can move that so that people can get 169 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: a glimpse of him throwing the football, since that's whatever 170 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: he wants. Now, they put out videos yesterday of him 171 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: throwing the football in right, but you need to everybody 172 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: you want to see it. Well, look, I don't know 173 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: what you're expecting to see I don't know if it's 174 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: you're expecting zipgate right now, Like, I don't know what, yes, Bo. 175 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: You're not expecting anything. You just want to see him 176 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: throw football. Yeah, you expect him to. It's the only 177 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: it's the number one thing. Yeah. I don't expect him 178 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: to come out and stripe it down the sideline sixty 179 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: two yards to Jerry Judy. I don't expect him to 180 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: do that. Maybe do that, Maybe he can, I don't care. 181 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: It's irrelevant. Right now. I want to see him physically 182 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: throw football. Yeah, that's it. That's old. Did you watch 183 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: any of the videos yesterday? 184 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 185 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: I think anytime it's a slow moo shot that's lost, 186 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: you can take a lot from that. 187 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, certainly. 188 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: No, it's all you want is you just want to 189 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: see him throw it. 190 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: That's it. 191 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: It's easy. No, no one, no one out there is 192 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: going to next week. Nobody out there is going to 193 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: go up there and be like, well, if he doesn't, 194 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: if he doesn't turn on the screws, he's broken. Like 195 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: it's nonsense. Of course not. He's coming off a major surgery, right, 196 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: But you just want to see what it looks like. 197 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: You just want to see him throw. It's the number 198 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: one thing. Yeah, So so that's the explanation of so 199 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: because he's thrown his schedule it is Tuesday Thursday to throw, 200 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: and the availability was today, that's why you did not 201 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: see it. 202 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: Yep. 203 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: But hopefully we'll be able to see it down the line, 204 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: because that's the that's the number one thing you said 205 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: yesterday on the show. One thing that you were looking 206 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: at was formationally, were there some some of that type 207 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: of stuff. 208 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, there was a top again seven on seven, 209 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: so a ton of shatkun, which you would expect. 210 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: A lot of. 211 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: I felt like there was more pre snap motion than 212 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: there had been perhaps in the past, which was it 213 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: often felt like in the past it was a lot 214 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: more wide receiver I'll say specifically pre snap motion, so 215 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: moving around trying to create mismatches, trying to get guys, 216 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: and they were able to a couple of times get 217 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: receivers on safeties in man situations with the way that 218 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: they did some of their shifts, and that allowed uh 219 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: for for completions in big plays. So I think, yeah, 220 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: that was that's what it was. 221 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: Again. 222 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: It's hard and seven on sevens, you know, you got 223 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: to get an idea of how they're it, but it's 224 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 3: a lot of shotgun and it was all the dropback game. 225 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: But conceptually it looked good. They were pretty crisp, and 226 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: Jamis looked good throwing the football. 227 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: He's gonna look good throwing the football. The thing that 228 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: you were talking about with Musk Graves on the handoff, read, 229 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: throw it to the bubble, all of that. That is 230 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: stuff that Jamis and DeShawn have done their whole. 231 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: Lives, right, and so we didn't do. And oftentimes in 232 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: the NFL, that's it's a every now and then that 233 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: becomes a big play, but that's usually like a good 234 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: kind of you know, four or five yard drive starter, 235 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: get you into second and manageable type of a play. 236 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: And then if you have you know, guys who can 237 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: do elite things with their the ball in their hands, 238 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: then maybe it can end up being more than that. 239 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: But those are just kind of those easy layups, rhythm throws, 240 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: get you feel in it, read the defense, read one thing, 241 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 3: and make a decision with the football. And so I 242 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: think you're going to see a little bit more of 243 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: that in this in this offense this year. 244 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, when we had Kevin in here. 245 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: Was it last week or the week before we had 246 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: him in there in here and we were talking a 247 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: little bit about you get rejuvenated, like you like the 248 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: people who you worked with, certainly, but there's new ideas 249 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: floating around out there, and now you're going to get 250 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: a chance to play a little bit with it. And 251 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: this in this sport, if you're not evolving, you're dying. 252 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: You have to continue to press the envelope of what 253 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: you can do. And for us this year, as we 254 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: kind of this feels like the you know, the way 255 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: the chub injury that happens, unfortunately, maybe speeds this process 256 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: up in terms of getting to a very different look offensively, 257 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: because you don't have the best running back in the 258 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: NFL at one hundred percent, and you may not, so 259 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: that's that's all part of that going forward. So they're 260 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: very comfortable in this. Judy would have played in this 261 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: type of offense his whole life, Amari Elijah, like everybody's used. 262 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: This is what these guys had grown up, It's what 263 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 2: they played in college. It's all heavy zone read, all 264 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: of that stuff. So, yeah, the fact that that drill 265 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: that you were explaining to the audience. Yeah, those are 266 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: little five four play hitters. But when it becomes a 267 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: standard part of your offense, then it becomes fake pomp 268 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: go yeah, and then you're that's involved in it. Yep, yeah, yeah, Yes, 269 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: it's good. It is getting everybody out there. What it 270 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: was great seeing everybody out there. It's just. 271 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 3: It's funny because there was as this team evolves and grows, 272 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: and you know, we've been doing this for a long time. Now, 273 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: this will be my let's see so thirty, this will 274 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: be my twelfth OTA session, and what you were looking 275 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: for at various points throughout those twelve years is very 276 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: different than now. 277 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 5: Now. 278 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: You want to see Deshan throw at You want to 279 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: see kind of what the SOVS is gonna look like. 280 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: But again, this team is not about you got to 281 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: lay the foundation and all of that is so important 282 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: to what the final product looks like on the journey 283 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: to doing that. But this team is about the final product. 284 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: This is a team with no reason not to be 285 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: great if they stay healthy. Injuries are the one things 286 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: you can't control. You'd like to think that after we 287 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: got decimated a year ago, that maybe it's our turn 288 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: for a season of non decimation. But there are no 289 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: excuses for this scene. This is the most talented roster 290 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: and the best division in football. 291 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: Full stop. Yeah, the laying the foundation is important. It's 292 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: just not particularly interesting, correct, And that's the that's the thing. 293 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: Like this is what we've traded as a fan base. 294 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: We've traded off seasons being the most interesting thing to 295 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: the actual seasons being the most interesting thing. Yes, and 296 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: I think I still think there are there are a 297 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: great many people out there who are used, are so used, 298 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: so accustomed to the off season being the interesting thing. 299 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: This is better, Yeah, this is better. It's a better 300 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: spot to be in because it's all pretty quiet. And yeah, 301 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: this you know, you think about even when as long 302 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: as and i'n't been doing this as long as you have, 303 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: but I don't know six, I don't know what off 304 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: season this is for me, six or seventh that we've 305 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: done together, And you think about, you know, getting your 306 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: first look at those rookies, you know, like when we 307 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: had that you know, like Bank coming back for year 308 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: two and like what that was gonna look like, our 309 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: very first look at Odell Beckham, like that type of stuff, 310 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: Like those are the things that we were we were 311 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: driven by at that point where these these new things 312 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: that were coming in, well, we everything's here, it's here. 313 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: It's yeah, you want to see Jerry Judy run some routes. 314 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: But here's the deal with Jerry j by the way, 315 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: today it's all I needed to see. Fine, get it. No, 316 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: and guess what running routes at this That's never been 317 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy. That's not why Jerry Judy was available. Right, 318 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: It's much like what Deshaun and everything else we need. 319 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: It's gonna be next September. Yeah, in October. That's that's 320 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: when this stuff will be. That's the stuff that matters. 321 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: And that's a good spot. 322 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: Right. 323 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is I'm not gonna learn anything more. 324 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: No, no, you're not doing it. 325 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: I want to see him do it in games now. 326 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, that's where that's really where this team is about. 327 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: You want to see everybody kind of go through this, 328 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: get their work, stay healthy first and foremost, and move 329 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: on from there. And if that happens, then joyous. Yeah, joyous, 330 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: And that's what it is. Yeah, that's that's It's good 331 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: to see the guys. It's gonna be good. You know, 332 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: we're going to get to hear from coach. Today, we're 333 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: going to get to hear from, you know, somebody from 334 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: the podium. I think Zadarius was at the podium. I 335 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: don't know if that's the direction Gibbe is gonna go. 336 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: What player are we going to hear from? Gibbet, you 337 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: will hear from Zadarius Smith and. 338 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: Coach. 339 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: So we got is Devin coming in devn Bush coming 340 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: in studio around one and then you will have coach 341 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: at the podium here momentarily. One thing in the non 342 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: ot as world it is it's now become official. Inside 343 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: the NBA is gone. Turner lost it. They lost its official. 344 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: It's done. Yeah. Sports Business Journal they reported it this morning. 345 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: You go, yeah, Sports Business Journal reported it. So it's 346 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: going to be ESPN, it's going to be NBC, and 347 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: it's going to be in the Sports Business Journal report. 348 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: It's also going to be Amazon. NBC is going to 349 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: make Basketball Night in America, so they will go from 350 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: Football Night in America to Basketball Night in America. So 351 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: Sunday Night, you're going to get an NBA Game of 352 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: the Week every week, which I think is actually kind 353 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: of brilliant. If you're gonna pay a bunch of money 354 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: for the NBA. You might as well put it on 355 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: Sunday Night and prop it up on network television and 356 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: it'll rate. It'll rate better than shows they're producing. So 357 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: that's that's where it's going. They're gonna They're gonna do 358 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: it that way. This is very sad. It's heartbreaking. So 359 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: because Ernie won't Ernie, So Chuck just said that Chuck's 360 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: doing the rounds right now and said that it's that 361 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: Ernie will retire sooner rather than later. Is his feeling 362 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: for that. My hope was that he would be able 363 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: to do like what Dan Patrick did for NBC when 364 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: it first went to Sunday Night Football and Night in America, 365 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: and that they could just if I'm NBC, I just 366 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: hire that whole operation. I would just hire all of them, 367 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: like I wouldn't even think about it. I would just 368 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: hire the four of them, and they do Football Night 369 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: in America, they do Basketball Night in America, and you 370 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: got Chuck and Kenny and Charles and they do it 371 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: and Ernie fronts it and you just bring You don't 372 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: need anybody else. I don't need a Jack Collinsworth. I 373 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: don't need I'm sure they'd want Erico doing something. Maybe 374 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: it does play by play, who knows, But like I 375 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: just would hire those people and have them do it. 376 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: But Chuck is saying that Earnie sixty seven, so he's 377 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: certainly not not that old. 378 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: You just won an Emmy last night. 379 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: They won last night. That was the irony of this 380 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: is they won the Emmy for limited studio show. It's 381 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: the best that in college Game to are the two 382 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: most important best studio shows ever quite honestly in my opinion. 383 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: But they so they Yeah, it's gone and they have 384 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: one year left, so it'll be next year and then 385 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: that'll be the. 386 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: End of it. 387 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: Yep, sad that's gonna at the end. It will be 388 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: an epic year. Next year. Well, yeah, there's probably Also 389 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: he's now a free agent, so he's the most He 390 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: will be the most coveted analyst since John Madden. Yep, 391 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: when John Mann. When CBS lost the NFC, they went 392 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: to Fox and Summer All and Madden went to NBC 393 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: and went to Fox. I don't know how many people 394 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: realize that. You have to be riage to remember that 395 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: Summer All and Madden were CBSS and then they went 396 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: to Fox. When CBS lost the NFC. 397 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: Do you see any scenario in which, because while inside 398 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: the NBA is so great, it feels like they're not 399 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: gonna be able to keep that together. Now, maybe they 400 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: could and they'll just bring it over and put a 401 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: new hope. 402 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: But it's kind of you gotta have all of them 403 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: or not. You gotta have all of them. 404 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you say he's gonna be the most coveted analysts, 405 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: do you think there's any scenario in which he is 406 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 3: the analyst forces Basketball Night in America that he is 407 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: like actually doing the games. 408 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think he would want that. 409 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that would be I mean, I don't 410 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: know what makes a guy tick, but my hunches he 411 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: would like to do what he does now, which is 412 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: be set up. And this is what makes Ernie so great, 413 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: Like he sets him up with a big, meaty pitch 414 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: down the middle and he gets to knock it out 415 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: of the park. 416 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: Over and over again. 417 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 4: Here's the problem though, with the whole NBC Basketball Night 418 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: in America. You know, they ditch out as quickly as possible. 419 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: The postgame show airs like on Peacock like it. They 420 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 4: get out because eleven o'clock news. 421 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: So I talked with this this morning. The biggest adjustment 422 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: is they're going to have to conform to times now 423 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: like it felt like in the on on inside the NBA. 424 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: They could go on for an hour and a half 425 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: if they wanted to. They can go on until he 426 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: didn't we're done talking talking here and now they're going 427 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: to have to be done at all times. So my hunches, 428 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: they'll put most of it into the pregame show like 429 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: they would do the pregame show. When when does Football 430 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: Night in America start? 431 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 5: Now? 432 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: Is it like eight twenty? But the basketball the game 433 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: starts at eight, seven o'clock at seven o'clock, So my hunches, 434 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: you would do like an hour studio show and maybe 435 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: you start the game at eight. 436 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, start right at eight, start it right at eight, 437 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 3: ends around ten, and they can have a half hour 438 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: to an hour if they want, half. 439 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: Hour, an hour, ten two and a half on a game, okay, 440 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: so then a half. 441 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: Hour a half hour on the backside, that would be 442 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: the way that I would do. 443 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 4: Maybe he goes to ESPN where you got more of 444 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: a form. 445 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to have the finals. Well that 446 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: we don't know that yet. I mean it'll be privately 447 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: Badge round it could be NBA by the way they 448 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: bring it. They got test recording in Nashville this summer. 449 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: He's going to re record round Ball Rock. Yes, they 450 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: sold the Fox, but that's gonna go back to NBC. Yeah, 451 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: So like, but why do they need to rerecord it? 452 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: Because I think they sold the actual, the actual one 453 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: to Fox. They have to re record a fresh version. Yeah, 454 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: so it'll be the same bit, but he's got like 455 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: an orchestra set up and they're gonna do it. But 456 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: and so there's a lot of layers to it because 457 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the NBA has never had that type 458 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: of platform, like a primetime Sunday night. Like hoping that 459 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: it continues. I think it's pretty smart by the way 460 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: it's it's just the latest and another a whole group 461 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: of this because so Fox is doing this as well. 462 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: Fox is gonna make Friday Night is going to be sports. 463 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 2: So they're gonna run Big ten football games on Friday night, right, 464 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 2: and they're gonna run sports to take place of SmackDown. 465 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: They're gonna run sports year round on Friday nights. So 466 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: everyone's understanding that that live sports, that you care about, 467 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: are like the last thing left because everything else or 468 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: a show that goes up goes nuts. Those are the 469 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: only two things that anybody's need to watch. You gotta 470 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: watch live. So that's that's kind of the that's where 471 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: this thing is headed. But yeah, no more so, they 472 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: got one more year of the NBA. That's done. They've 473 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: been on forty years on Turner. I mean every All 474 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: Star game, my whole life, yeah, has been on Turner, 475 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: every All Star Saturday Night, all of its wild Yeah. 476 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: I mean for the NBA, it's significant exposure, right, I 477 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: mean the finals are already on broadcast TV. That's on 478 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: on ABC, right, the finals always on ABC, So then 479 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: the finals are going to go So you're saying it's 480 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: it's Amazon. 481 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Amazon, ESPN, PN, NBC. 482 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the finals will be on NBC. 483 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: Or ABC too. I mean I don't know that that's 484 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: the They may they may have just taken the. 485 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: Want to say, ESPN and ABC still have the finals 486 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: potentially for the next like ten years. 487 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: No matter what. 488 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 4: The question was going to be, who's number two and 489 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 4: whose number three are? 490 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: Then if you get Barkley, then Barkley's got to go 491 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: to ESPN, he's. 492 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: Never had Yeah, he's never been on the finals, but like, 493 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: do you think he wants to be in there yelling 494 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: at stephen A. Smith all the time? Like that tone 495 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: is so different. 496 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: No, but Barkley on wood Mac, if he would be electric. 497 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 5: It would be. 498 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: But he does that anyway, Like he still comes on 499 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: to Aurocaphee like he doesn't. That doesn't stop before. I 500 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: wonder if he could do. Their tone is so different. 501 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: Their tone is the embraced debate tone, Like that's not 502 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: the tone of inside the NBA. 503 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 3: And two absolute legends and a guy who's become an 504 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: incredible analyst and kind of third fiddle with an elite host. Yes, 505 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: just busting chops and talking basketball. 506 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: That's right, and everyone's tried to mimic it, but you can't. 507 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: Well it's charges in check because you can't fake chemistry. 508 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: And Kenny Is can't fake chemistry. Kenny's great. 509 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: You have it or you don't, and they do so 510 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: it works. But yeah, so huge huge sports Sports Business News. 511 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: That's interesting. 512 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: I just. 513 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: Standpoint. 514 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: I mean Harlan and Eagle and like all those TNT guys. 515 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: Well, and some of those guys have CBS cross pollination 516 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 2: because they Turner still has the basketball tournament, so Ernie 517 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: would still be on the basketball tournament at that point. 518 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: They have that, so some of those guys are still Yeah, 519 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: I and Eagle would be that, and Kevin Harlan would 520 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: be that. Like I would want if I was NBC, 521 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: I would want one of those two guys calling it. 522 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: But isn't Iron Eagle doesn't he do? So he does 523 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: a national championship. He does. He's the number two Fox 524 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: team or CBS team. Yeah, with Charles, he's not leaving that. 525 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: No of course, not no, no, no, no, He's got it 526 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: set up. And then Harlan would be. 527 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: So they would have let him, don't They wouldn't let 528 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: him do NBC basketball. 529 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: You know you asked that question. Normally I would say no. 530 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: But remember Herbstreet does football on Amazon YEP, So there 531 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: is some precedent for this now where you can bounce 532 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: from network to network. I don't know. I don't even 533 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: know if they view each other as competitors anymore. 534 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: Well, he's on CBS for basket for football, like that's 535 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: the and the NCAA Tournament, which is college basketball, right, 536 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: so it's kind of like the difference. He's not competing 537 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: against CBS's NBA product. 538 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: No, Herbstreet got away with it because he was he's 539 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: gotten away with it because he does college and then 540 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: this is NFL, right, so maybe that would be the 541 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: same thing you could argue. But also he went from 542 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: network to like full streaming. So I don't know, but 543 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of people that need 544 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: to be hired. You need to hire Amazon. He's got 545 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: to hire a whole team, and then you got to 546 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: have a whole team of of NBC people on that. 547 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: And it's a like for NBC, it's a big, big. 548 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: Play, Like what's Amazon's play. 549 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't know they're going to have. 550 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: Are they going to do like a Thursday? Are they 551 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: going to have a Thursday? Just like probably? 552 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: I mean that. 553 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: I mean there are rumors that Amazon and Bally's are 554 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 4: going to get together because everybody's complaining about the bally app. Yeah, 555 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 4: you know that you're going to be able to watch 556 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: all of the Bally's regional sports stuff Amazon. 557 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: Good watch official because I already paid for that. Yeah, 558 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: when I'd be able to watch it, which would be lovely. Yeah, 559 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: so yeah, big big, big newsy Day that way, that'll 560 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 3: help me for the two playoff games that they put 561 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 3: on Ballys. Not a lot of regular season consumption. 562 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 2: No, you're safe, you say, do you guys watch any 563 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: of the game last night, but we get to coach 564 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: at the highlights. 565 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: I ended up watching it live when it went to overtime. 566 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: I watched the last five minutes of it live, and 567 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: it's about as big as choke job as you can 568 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: have if you're indy. Like, they had two turnovers in 569 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: the last minute that were and what did Carlisle do 570 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: at the end? Then he blowed, Then he mismanaged something. 571 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: I haven't read any of the conjecture about it, so 572 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: maybe he did something that I was unaware, But in 573 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: the moment, there wasn't anything too glaring. They just had 574 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: two turnovers that are as bad as you're gonna have, okay, 575 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: And then Jalen Brown hit a shot like I guess 576 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: the criticism for him would be why don't you foul 577 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: there you're up three versus letting him shoot a three? 578 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: But I think the fear of it always is my 579 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 2: fear of always following somebody on a three is like 580 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: are you fire? Following them in the motion of shooting? 581 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: Correct and Jalen Brown was trying to draw the foul. 582 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: He double clutch and then he just made it. But 583 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 2: like he was trying to draw the foul. So that's 584 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: that's always the tricky part, Like how do you just 585 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: like to play defense? How do you file? How do 586 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: you foul somebody? 587 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 5: You know? 588 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: Because you see the as a player, you see the 589 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: foul coming, so as soon as they get near you, 590 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: you're going to try to get into it and and 591 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: get the foul and maybe get the end one. 592 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: So they had twenty two turnovers. Yeah, there's nothing here. 593 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: I was talking with with the voice about it and 594 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: he said that he was surprised that he didn't have that. 595 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: So they must have been not foulling. 596 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: The non fouling must have been the deal. 597 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, the Celtics need poor zingis back. 598 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: The Pacers are a fun team. They can call that. 599 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: You watch them play here, Isn't that the team that 600 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: you're like, dude, they can score you can You went 601 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: to the game, Yeah, and then you came in and you're like, 602 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: they can flat out score it, and they they can. 603 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't watch it. I don't consume a lot of thesesociations. 604 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: But if I go live and I watch it, I 605 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: feel like I can take away. 606 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 5: Yeah you did. 607 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they can coming in here the next day 608 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: and you're like, dude, they can flat out score. 609 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: Actually just get like Sakam's like their third or fourth guy, 610 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: like out of nowhere, Sam can ball. 611 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get a lot of. 612 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 3: Aliburtons just said he was in the Sabonis trade, right, 613 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: that was that was the big principal return was. 614 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: The turn was Haliburton for Sabonis. 615 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, which has worked out and Sibonus has been great. Sacramento, 616 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: it's just they're just kind of a linguishing. 617 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: They're also in the West. Yeah, it's just brutal. 618 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: Right, their record in the West would have got him 619 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: in the oh. 620 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure. Well they did get in. They 621 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: were in the playing there playing were they the six 622 00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: or this? 623 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: And they lost to Lakers New Orleans, New Orleans. 624 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lakers. The Lakers beat thin there's won twice 625 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: to get to the Warriors. 626 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: Somebody beat the Warriors and the Warriors, Sacramento beat the Warriors. 627 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 5: Yep. 628 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: Then the Lakers beat New Orleans to be the seven, 629 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: and the New Orleans beat Sacramento. 630 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: To be the eight. 631 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: So that's how that happened. And those are your hot 632 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: topics of the day, presented by the University Hospitals. Also, 633 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: Champions League, the free gaming community for Browns fans around 634 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: the world, was at Cleveland Browns dot com slash Champions 635 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: League to join the fun. Now, head coach Kevin Stepans, 636 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: get the podium, Devin Bush and studio. All ahead. You're 637 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: listening to the Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 638 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley Bett now 639 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 640 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: Uh Nathaniel, did you know that Billy, Joel and Rod 641 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: Stewart are together for the first time ever? Say what, 642 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: It's Friday, September thirteenth. Oh gosh, good, we have time. 643 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: You had some time. It's a Cleveland brown Stadium. You 644 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: can buy the tickets right now. Yeah, here's what you're 645 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: gonna do. You're gonna go to Cleveland Browns Stadium dot 646 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: com and then you're gonna go slash Billy. And that's 647 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: the symbol not actually spelling out slash, so Cleveland Brownstdium 648 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: dot gun slash. 649 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 650 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: That hair was something that he's a Crack come out 651 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: in November rain that top hat unbelievable, just rocking the 652 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: top at They were so formidable as a kid. When 653 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: they dropped, Yeah, it was like they are another level there, 654 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: you know, because you had had you had Motley Crue, 655 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: and you had and they're great too, but you had 656 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: like all of those deaf Leopard Motley Crue, like all 657 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: of that stuff, and then all of a sudden, like 658 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: that first track of Welcome to the Jungle, when you 659 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: got that tape and you hit play and that was 660 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: side one song, when you went, well, that's different. 661 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: They along with Motley Crue, I would not I don't 662 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: want to disrespect anil, but they they are to me 663 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: the peak of out of control rock and roll access 664 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: into bauchery. 665 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: I would think Poison would be right there with them. Fine, 666 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: but their their tone was very different. Their tone was 667 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: very playful, yeah, whereas like Guns and Roses tone. 668 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: Was not I know what I mean, like they're what 669 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: they lived, like the divis conducted themselves. 670 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: Those they were all that. But they Yeah, but they 671 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: I think. 672 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: Molly Crue and Guns and Roses were the most. 673 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how, I don't know if anything could 674 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: ever taught Motley Cruz operation. Yeah, well, like I want 675 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: to make them. They had to be included, but they were. 676 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: They also had Motley Crue also had like there was 677 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: a little bit of kind of fun to some of 678 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: their stuff. There was nothing fun about guns N' Roses, 679 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: Doctor Field good. Yeah, there was a little makes Field 680 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: by the way. 681 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: That's clintand Brown Stadium dot Com Slash Billion Ride. 682 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four. And you don't want to miss him 683 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: because they're together and it's for one night only. 684 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 4: Right, just talk to a voice downstairs. 685 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: He's ready. 686 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: I think if he could buy a whole section, he 687 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: probably would be amazing. 688 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: If he bought a whole section, just set himself, might 689 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: be able to soak it in. 690 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 4: You might be able to guys, you're gonna sit with 691 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: me a man, I'd go, of course, I'd go, what 692 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: am I doing on? Well, I know I'm probably doing. 693 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have obligations before before we get to coach, 694 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: can I I just came across a story that I 695 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: wanted to share with you. I find to be delightful, 696 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: just tickled me go. Xander Shaffley was on part of 697 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: My Take Today. Xander said that he's in a group 698 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: chat with a bunch of other golfers, including Scotty Scheffler, 699 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: and someone in the group chat changed the group chat 700 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: photo to Scotty's mugshot. That's from Cleve. Ta source that 701 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: out for me, So thank you, Cleve. 702 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: That's good. That's boys will be boys. 703 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: There's nothing, there is nothing better than the group chat. 704 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: The group chat is always. 705 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: Around with the boys, play a little foursome, grab some 706 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: meats for Mario. Everybody wins. Yeah, until you do it, 707 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 708 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: Gibbe knows, Gibbet, I'm I am an alpha. 709 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: Group chat's there? Contact has been made. Oh yeah, that's real. Yeah, 710 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: let's go. Well we'll get to that, the alpha king, 711 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: the alpha king. Yeah, we'll go to uh to the podium. 712 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: Here's coach. 713 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 5: We see Deshaun Frow yesterday. 714 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 6: But from what you were able to see, how how 715 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 6: much he progressed in terms of his whole his old recovery, 716 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 6: and how much more are you're seeing from from what 717 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 6: you've seen previously. 718 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he looked like himself. To me, I've 719 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 7: been able to watch him the last couple of weeks 720 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 7: now that we've gotten in the phase two, so I've 721 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 7: seen him throw. Uh, he's making great progress and we 722 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 7: will continue to just follow the medical team on this. 723 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: But he he looks like himself. 724 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: Taste of what the plan is like. How often is 725 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: growing rotating days? 726 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 7: We're rotating days for that for now. 727 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 728 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 7: That will change as we get into mini camp as 729 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 7: obviously when you get into training camp. But for right now, 730 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 7: he'll be thrown every other day. 731 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 8: Hey, Kelly, when you signed Nahim, what what kind of 732 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 8: conversations that you had with Ken about how he can. 733 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 7: Healthcare off You know, it's so helpful when you're signing 734 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 7: a guy that comes from a team where you have 735 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 7: a coach on on the roster can fill you in 736 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 7: on what that person's about off the field, how they're 737 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 7: on the field, what they're like in the meeting room. 738 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 7: So Ken was able to give us a great picture 739 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 7: of Nahim and who he is as a person and 740 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 7: a player. 741 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 5: So we're excited about his skill set. 742 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 7: I think everybody's seen him over the years make a 743 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 7: ton of plays because it was curious and. 744 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 8: The Offenson can kind of work out the gym if 745 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 8: you look at the defense good and your one how 746 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 8: you finish one uses. So maybe the season doesn't end 747 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 8: with the performance you're hoping for. But how do you 748 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 8: as a coach put that when you're looking at the 749 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 8: later you know, a blooprint in and the plan for 750 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 8: implum when. 751 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 7: You finish firsts on many sists, it's really interesting. Year 752 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 7: to year things change and every year stands on its 753 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 7: own merit. And I could let Coach Schwartz speak specifically 754 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 7: to it, but I know Jim and I know the 755 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 7: conversations we've had. We want to be better on defense. 756 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 7: There are plays that we feel were left out there. 757 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 7: I think if you talk to coach as he watches 758 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 7: the tape over the course of the season, he was 759 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 7: surprised we're able to stop anybody. You know, he feels 760 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 7: like we can be so much better. Some of that 761 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 7: comes from different things we can adjust. Some of that 762 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 7: comes from putting guys in positions to go make plays. 763 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 7: But we are in no way satisfied on defense. 764 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: He's got to work out and we have in LA 765 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: and then year two. How beneficial is. 766 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 9: That when guys are able to get together in the 767 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 9: off season and get that too. 768 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 7: I think it can be really beneficial. Cam And as 769 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 7: you know, there's a dead period to it. Where we 770 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 7: can't talk to the players and we can't have them 771 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 7: in our building, But if they want to go throw 772 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 7: on their own, that's great for us. And I think 773 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 7: it just builds a rapport obviously on the field, but 774 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 7: also builds a rapport off the field. 775 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: Doesn't have. 776 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 5: That injury. 777 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Kim, we saw it with Sean. 778 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: You know, going through like the mental reps, right, doing 779 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 4: whatever everything budget, throwing a party. Obviously you think there's 780 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: value to that and you just do. 781 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: So what I guess what is the value for going 782 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: through those type right? 783 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 5: I think it's something we always talk about. It's mental reps. 784 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 7: So when you're not getting a rep, whether you're the quarterback, 785 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 7: you're a running back, you're trying to get a mental 786 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 7: rep every single time. 787 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 5: So I think there's. 788 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 7: A progression to how all of us learn. And I 789 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 7: think as much as we can learn in the classroom 790 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 7: and then we can learn from being out there and 791 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 7: taking the rep. I really think you can add another 792 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 7: element of watching it while it's happening live, so our 793 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 7: guys really do lock in and try to get that 794 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 7: mental rep. Now you're gonna go into the meeting rooms 795 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 7: and watch it again, so you're gonna get another rep. 796 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 7: But I just think it's all of it adds up. 797 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 7: We don't want to be passive observers out here on 798 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 7: the on the football field if we're not in it. 799 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 4: Especially with the switch to whatever changes are with Jim's offensive, that. 800 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: Would be even more betterfit. 801 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and I think it's important year to year. It's 802 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 7: certainly important this season to lock in on on all 803 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 7: those adjustments. And some of those are are nuanced, some 804 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 7: of those are maybe terminology, but every opportunity you have 805 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 7: to cement it in your head is really important. 806 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 4: You have three moment audience, the. 807 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 6: I new contexts and chies, but how beneficial business time 808 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 6: for those things. 809 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: You have worked into the offense. 810 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 7: I think this time is so extremely important for all 811 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 7: coaching staffs when you do have some new coaches in. 812 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 7: So much of it is getting on the same page. 813 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 7: And I don't care how many conversations you have in February, 814 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 7: March and April until you get on the grass and 815 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 7: you rep a play and then the coverage maybe changes. 816 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 7: Then there's another conversation that has to happen off of that. 817 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 7: So I think Ken and the offensive staff are doing 818 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 7: a great job of having these meetings where there's certain 819 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 7: there are times that we got to talk through, we 820 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 7: got to come to a decision, we got to work 821 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 7: through it. And that's just the natural part of having 822 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 7: some new coaches. 823 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: Jed on the side, you know, Jack, do you have 824 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: a better sense way? 825 00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 5: Jed and Jack. 826 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 7: They're all doing really well in their rehab. I don't 827 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 7: know when the exact moment's going to be when when 828 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 7: those guys are ready to practice, but they're all doing great. 829 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, coach at the podium. Coming 830 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: up next, new linebacker Devin Bush in studio gos to 831 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN. 832 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bed 833 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 834 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cleveland brown Saley, We're brought 835 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: to you by Valley Betsports, winning partner your Cleveland Browns and 836 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: a live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland, Joined 837 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: here in studio by new Browns linebacker Devin Bush. And 838 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: back to a good part of the country. YEA mean 839 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: this played played your college ball at Michigan of course, 840 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: and then of course Pittsburgh Steelers out of college. Uh, 841 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: what does it mean to you to get back to 842 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: this part of the country. 843 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 9: It means it means the world. I mean, I'm back connected. 844 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 9: I feel like I got my family closed by. You know, 845 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 9: I'm on the Saint Thoms zone and stuff. I'm not 846 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 9: far from home, So I'm glad to be Bag. 847 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 3: Honestly, when you start your career, you kind of know Michigan, 848 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: Ohio state, you start your career with the Steelers, you know, 849 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: probably Steelers, Cleveland Browns. Is it pretty wild that here 850 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 3: you are now, Yeah, in Ohio playing for the Browns. 851 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 9: It's funny because the rivalries don't change, you know, it's 852 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 9: that same feel you know, Michigan, Ohio and in Cleveland 853 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 9: and Pittsbury. So you know, I love those rivalries. I 854 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 9: love AFC North, and I love the style of football. 855 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 9: So I'm just glad to be Bag. Honestly. 856 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 3: Did you ever talk to like Joe Hayden, for example, about, 857 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 3: you know, maybe when you're thinking about coming here, because 858 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 3: he was again one of our favorites and obviously played 859 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 3: some good football with you at the Steelers. 860 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 5: Once. 861 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 9: Once I knew Joe came back here and signed and 862 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 9: and then retired. I knew, you know, it was that 863 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 9: type of team, it was that type of atmosphere. You know, 864 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 9: Joe's one of those those football junkies that he's just 865 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 9: on kei la football regards, So you know, seeing seeing 866 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 9: you know, how he seeing the place, how he treated 867 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 9: the place, and how much he went up for Cleveland. 868 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 9: You know, it just showed me that it was a 869 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 9: good city to be Honestly. 870 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: One of the things that that we always talk about 871 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: with h I'm sure Pittsburgh's exact same way and the 872 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: way that it is here and you were at Mission, 873 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: your dad was a stud at Florida State, and there's 874 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 2: a collegiate feel to these towns. And I mean that 875 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 2: as a compliment in terms of like whether you're in 876 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 2: Tallahassee or in Arbor on a Saturday game day, the 877 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: town shuts down. Pittsburgh feels like that. That's what Cleveland 878 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: feels like. Is that how how important is that as 879 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: a player and and how much did that weigh in 880 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: your decision? 881 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 9: I think I think I can speak for a lot 882 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 9: of football players you know that that come from those 883 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 9: those college towns and and know those atmospheres they prefer 884 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 9: that over anything, you know, La or you know Miami 885 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 9: and stuff like that where so much going on. 886 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: You know, you're the highlight of the city. You know, 887 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 2: you win, you win, everybody's good. On Monday. 888 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 9: You lose, you kind of ruined the week for everybody, 889 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 9: you know, So you know those types of games, those 890 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 9: type of ribbories, but you know, it's a lot on 891 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 9: all your shoulders, but a win feels so good in 892 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 9: those type of atmosphere. 893 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 3: How does it feel coming into a new team. He 894 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 3: did it obviously last year with Seattle and that now 895 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: coming in here, you know the linebacker room had some turnover. 896 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 3: That's where there have been some departures from that room. 897 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: There's an opportunity to got one of our favorites, coach Tarbor. 898 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: Who's talk about somebody who loves ball. That guy is 899 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: an all football, a ball junkie. Literally, Yeah, what's it 900 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: been like kind of coming in this room? And do 901 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: you do you already kind of feel comfortable with the 902 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: locker room? 903 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 9: And then yeah, speaking of JT, he definitely made a 904 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 9: transition lot easier because we spoke before I got here 905 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 9: and he was just telling me how I portant it was. 906 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 9: You know, just to come in and learn you know, this, this, this, 907 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 9: you know. It wasn't like, oh, come in and learn 908 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 9: to playbook. It was like come learn this, this, this, 909 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 9: and everything else will. 910 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: Fall into place. 911 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 9: So, you know, I mean, being back man, it's it's 912 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 9: I mean, it's like a welcome home just being back 913 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 9: in the AFC North, honestly. 914 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: So he's very thorough. He was gonna give you probably 915 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: the most thorough notes you've ever gotten ever. 916 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 5: You can tell. 917 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 9: You could tell he's once I found out he was 918 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 9: a professor. Everything can make sense. 919 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything he loves, he does, he loves. 920 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: So I was watching you as you were doing a 921 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 3: drill today where it was kind of like you'd come 922 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: hit the sled and then get the running back. You 923 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 3: did it from both sides, and he was like, look, 924 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 3: pop your hips the same. He's like this evens you 925 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 3: get to just go and you're like you. 926 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 2: Can just do. 927 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: You kind of feel like that suits you because you're 928 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 3: a you're a movement linebacker, speed and you could just 929 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 3: go and use your greatest attribute. 930 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 9: It feels good, you know, when when the coach is 931 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 9: more more of a let it loose than you know, 932 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 9: like all right, like do it like this, or or 933 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 9: making sure your arms are right. You know, I mean 934 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 9: everybody knows how this game go. It's not perfect, nothing's perfect, 935 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 9: but I mean if you move one hundred miles probably, 936 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 9: I mean there's a good chance you might make a play. 937 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim Schwartz, wherever you're going, go fast, go. 938 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 9: Fast, and we'll figure it out on. 939 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: How how does this what what shorts Schwartz wants to 940 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 2: do defensively? How much does it fit what you do 941 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: your strengths. 942 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 9: The movement part, it's a lot of movement, you know, 943 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 9: just just with the defense, not just blitzing or you know, 944 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 9: calling out protections or whatever. You know, it's just movements 945 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 9: with the DB's that transitions to the linebackers, that transitions 946 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 9: to the D line, and then from the D line 947 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 9: to the. 948 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: Linebackers to the safety. 949 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 9: So you know, it's a lot of movement, a lot 950 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 9: of a lot of simulations. But we are blitzing or 951 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 9: we're not. Tons of communication which helps out, you know, 952 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 9: and plan defense in the league because I mean, everybody's 953 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 9: good inches, you know what I'm saying, And throw a 954 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 9: ball hundred for our five yards away and touchdown. 955 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: You know, that's the real thing, you know. 956 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 9: So so being able to move and adjust and communicate 957 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 9: with this defense, knowing we're still gonna be aggressive definitely helps. 958 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 2: Out of playing fast and that I feel like that's 959 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: where I'm That's fit you guys always had in Pittsburgh. 960 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 2: They've always had an attitude about defense. We felt like 961 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz brought that last year and we saw it. 962 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: There was a swagger to it. There's a chest in 963 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: us with the corners. We saw Miles, you know, in 964 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: a way that we'd never really seen before. You're just 965 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 2: new to this operation, But do you do you sense 966 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 2: the attitude that this defense has. 967 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, I think I think it definitely comes from 968 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 9: him too, because I remember when I came to my 969 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 9: visit and one of the first things he told me was, 970 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 9: you know, I learned, I learned to get out the way. 971 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 9: And in this league, you know, a lot of dudes 972 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 9: is trying to comment a ladder, a lot of dudes 973 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 9: is trying to be a coordinator or whatever they whatever 974 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 9: they heart desire. But you know, for a guy to 975 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 9: come in and say, you know, I'm gonna get out 976 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 9: the way, and I just go to tell you how 977 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 9: much he really treatses as professionals, how much he really 978 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 9: wants to work with us, you know, rather than just 979 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 9: just being some chess pieces. 980 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, what positions have you been working out in the 981 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 3: line backer room? 982 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 2: All of them? 983 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 9: All of them, honestly, all of them, Sam will I 984 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 9: got some little reps of Mike here and there, but 985 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 9: I mean I just I just like to be out there, honestly, 986 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 9: I don't really matter where. 987 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and was kind of the camaraderie with some of 988 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 3: those guys in that room for it. 989 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 9: I think it's a perfect blend of old and new. 990 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 9: You know, we got you got some two year guys. 991 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 9: You got some some guys that's that's year ten six. 992 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 9: Jailk is four. So you know, the experienced level was there. 993 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 9: The young you know, the young attitude, the young energy 994 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 9: is there. So I mean we were not lacking in 995 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 9: any any any space. 996 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 3: I think it's a basroom in jail man. 997 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 9: It's just whenever we feel like pulling the trigger and 998 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 9: whatever whoever we want to be. You know, it's us 999 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 9: to decide. It's us to put on filming, us to 1000 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 9: just keep doing the day in, the day out. 1001 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 2: Yes, you said your six and obviously remember you're very 1002 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 2: well at Michigan. Remember you in the first round of 1003 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Feelers trading up to get them. House was going 1004 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 2: not that I knew your game, Well wait too, I 1005 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 2: don't need that. There very happier here. But can you 1006 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: put six years in it? I mean when you say 1007 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's possible that you could be 1008 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 2: But like this, it's like. 1009 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 9: This, man, it's crazy. Man, It's it feels so crazy. 1010 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 9: I remember, I remember you first get there. It goes 1011 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 9: so fast, it goes so fast you believe it. 1012 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: But then when it happened, you're. 1013 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 9: Like, all right, like, let me start appreciating stuff a 1014 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 9: little bit more, you know, let me let me when 1015 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 9: I laced up the cleaves, you know, let me just 1016 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 9: take a moment to just be thankful that I'm even 1017 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 9: out here running still, you know. 1018 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: Just to be able to play this game and just call. 1019 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 9: It a job is so much like it's it's not 1020 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 9: I can't even describe it as a dream. It's just 1021 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 9: something that you can't even like, you can't even explain 1022 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 9: to nobody. 1023 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: Just get to play football for fun. 1024 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 3: That's comes with time, come time, and probably against us 1025 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 3: exactly significant injury. 1026 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 9: Who who knows, who knows how the table turns, who 1027 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 9: knows what happens here or not? But I mean, I'm here, 1028 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 9: I'm kicking and I'm running, and I'm a Cleveland Brown 1029 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 9: So I'm just happy to be here. 1030 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: Honestly, do you get a vibe from this team? 1031 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 3: So I imagine when you went to the Steelers in twenty 1032 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: and eighteen, it was kind of you know, at that point, 1033 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 3: the Browns were coming off of a winless season. Area 1034 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 3: this seem you look around, you know there's there's real talent. 1035 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not. 1036 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 9: It's completely different. It's not the even Browns from when 1037 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 9: I came in, honestly, and just just from the guys Garrett, 1038 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 9: you know, Chubb, who else, Bontonio, like those guys really 1039 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 9: laid the foundation on what's going on right now because 1040 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 9: they was here when when everything was getting kicked around, 1041 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 9: you know. Yeah, so you know they respect to them 1042 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 9: and thankful for those guys that stuck with it and 1043 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 9: and brought the Cleveland Browns to where they at now. 1044 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 2: We're uniform junkies. 1045 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 3: So I have to ask last year in Seattle, when 1046 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 3: you guys brought those throwbacks back warm against the Browns. 1047 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: Those are some pretty sweet. 1048 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 9: I kept every single last jersey, helmet, gloves, socks just 1049 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 9: just so I can, just so I can appreciate. 1050 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 2: Throw it out of mannequin something and be like. 1051 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 9: I'm about like eight manniguins and just line up the 1052 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 9: whole jersey collection and just let it just sit there 1053 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 9: and just I'm just gonna. 1054 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 2: Get old with it. 1055 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna add the whites this year. I 1056 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 3: think you're gonna like the I mean, our classics are good, 1057 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: but the throwback white. 1058 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, why do wi helm is? Yeah? 1059 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 3: Yep, I'm pretty everything is going on with me. 1060 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: I'll love it. 1061 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 3: We're so happy to have you and so happy for 1062 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 3: you to be close to your family. And you said 1063 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 3: you have a child who's young, and that was toff 1064 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 3: being in Seattle, So as a heaven family is, it's 1065 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 3: a wonderful thing. So happier you're here for us and 1066 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 3: happy you're here for you and. 1067 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 2: Your fappreciate it. Thank you for sure, really appreciate you 1068 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 2: coming by. Yeah, thank you for having me Devin Bush 1069 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: and studio with us. Great stuff there. Second hour of 1070 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: the program coming up nextles to Cleveland. 1071 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily 1072 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: Front to You by Bailey bed Now Live in Ohio 1073 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: on eight fifty EESP and Cleveland. 1074 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 2: Right Second Hour. Here on a first Friday edition of 1075 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 2: the program, Time to Go Around the League. NFL Spring 1076 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 2: Odor meetings are happening in Nashville. Guess what, mate. Australia 1077 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 2: is a goal for nh NFL International Games in the future. 1078 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 2: Per Ian Rappaport. The NFL has already launched an academy 1079 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: in Australia. We want to go? Where we Where are 1080 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: we draw the line? I don't care. I want to go. 1081 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: Do you have any friends you and I have in Australia? Yes, 1082 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: we'd kill you know for us to get there. 1083 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. But eighteen seventeen, for sure it was, Yeah, 1084 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 3: for sure. It's got to be close. 1085 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty hours, eighteen hours, I don't know. Yeah, who cares? 1086 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 2: We got to go. Can you imagine us palin around, dude? 1087 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 3: I would have the best time. Yeah, I can imagine 1088 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 3: a lot of things. 1089 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 2: We have a great time over there. We would have 1090 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 2: a great time. Like, let's go. But to your serious 1091 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: point of where do we draw the line? Yeah, this 1092 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,919 Speaker 2: would be long past during the line. This is absurd. Yes, 1093 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 2: this is ridiculous, and I don't understand, like you, what 1094 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 2: you're hoping to get from it. 1095 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 3: You would need to come back to your bye week 1096 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 3: for sure, and you'd probably need to come off of 1097 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 3: a Thursday night game beforehand so that you could get 1098 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 3: over there and try to get your wits about you. 1099 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 2: I love that continent country. I love so much about 1100 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: it same but at the same time, I don't understand 1101 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: what the game would be like. Are you going to 1102 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 2: really import more football fans, create more NFL. 1103 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 3: You know people who are huge football fans in Australia, 1104 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 3: like our good friend Dabel, they'll come. They flew to 1105 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 3: LA to go to the rounds and they'll come and 1106 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 3: the Rams last year, yeah, and had. 1107 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 2: The time of their lives. Right and his crew is epic, 1108 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: great crew, great crew. Yeah. He's Brisbane, right he is, yeah, 1109 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 2: yeah yeah. And then we have Dave who's in eas 1110 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 2: in Melbourne. You get a lot, man, But I guess 1111 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 2: what I don't understand is what is the I don't 1112 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: understand the upside in it in all of this, I 1113 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 2: don't understand going to Brazil. Yeah, I know, you're trying to. 1114 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: I understand the thinking of it, of we need to 1115 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 2: get more because the one there's only one thing that 1116 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: the NBA NFL is envious of the NBA, and it's 1117 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 2: the world wide market the NBA has because the NBA 1118 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 2: is really popular in China, it's really popular in the 1119 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 2: other parts of the world because basketball's played everywhere, and 1120 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 2: so the NFL, in an effort to how do we 1121 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 2: unlock more money? Always right, how do you do that? 1122 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 2: You got to go to other markets where you otherwise aren't. 1123 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 2: But I don't know that. I guess what I'm skeptical 1124 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: of is would going there create more interest in the 1125 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: NFL in Australia than is already there. I don't hard 1126 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 2: for me to believe. 1127 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 3: I don't think so. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Yeah, 1128 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 3: I don't. I wouldn't think so. But again I don't 1129 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't think so. That's my my 1130 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 3: initial answer to you would be I don't think so 1131 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 3: at all. 1132 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 2: I think I mean, what's stop? Why why not play 1133 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 2: in Tokyo? 1134 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's what they're saying, We're gonna go playing, Raykovic, 1135 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 3: Are you gonna go play in where where we stop? 1136 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, like you gonna go to Cairo, NFL 1137 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 2: Cairo and the other thing. 1138 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: Like East Coast team going to London is not that 1139 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 3: big of a deal. 1140 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 2: Correct, It's kind of like going from. 1141 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: West Coastinestils, right, Yes, but now we're talking about like 1142 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 3: Brazil is not easy for anybody, No, for the Packers, 1143 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 3: like and the Eagles are gonna be. 1144 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 2: On those planes forever. No, and I when I don't. Again, 1145 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 2: that goes back to what I was just saying, like 1146 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 2: are people in sal Paula all going to be going 1147 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: to be like demanding that the NFL is on their 1148 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 2: television that it otherwise isn't because you put a game there? 1149 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: Like what's the what is the hope? 1150 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 3: There must be some data that supports this, right that 1151 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 3: it's worked in London, it's worked in Germany. Now they 1152 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: haven't gone back to Mexico. I don't know the last 1153 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 3: game was played. 1154 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 2: I remember I. 1155 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 3: Remember like a Niners Cardinals game. 1156 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 2: Are we going this year? 1157 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 4: Remember the field like wasn't playable. 1158 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 2: That was as tech as tech Stadium, And I think 1159 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 2: they're playing there. 1160 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 4: I think they're that still. And that's why we have 1161 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 4: not the NFL being we has not gone back there yet. Yeah, 1162 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 4: because that's I think that's the only option to play 1163 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 4: in Mexico. 1164 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 2: This would be my pushback on if there is data 1165 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: the NFL has been playing in London since the eighties. 1166 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean it used to be a preseason game, but 1167 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,959 Speaker 2: I mean it's I haven't talked about it, yeah, correct, 1168 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 2: Jim talked about it. I still remember the Sports Illustrated 1169 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 2: cover with Jim McMahon and the two beef eaters on 1170 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 2: the cover when they went over to London after winning 1171 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and so like they went over the 1172 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: preseason game. Like I remember all of this stuff. I 1173 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 2: would argue that the the bigger impact of NFL popularity 1174 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 2: in Europe isn't taking a team over there once a 1175 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: year or whatever, but rather accessibility. 1176 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 5: Yep. 1177 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 2: It's the same reason that you can that you think 1178 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: about what's happened in soccer in this country. The European leagues, 1179 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 2: like people are more familiar with them now than ever 1180 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 2: because it's accessible. You can watch it. You can watch 1181 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 2: every Premier League game you want to watch. You want 1182 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,439 Speaker 2: to watch Champions League, you can watch them. We watched 1183 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 2: two weeks ago. 1184 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 3: The reality I guess their thought is maybe you go 1185 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 3: in and you play it game, you get a good response, 1186 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 3: and then you're able to get television distribution. Perhaps it 1187 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 3: is greater than what currently exists because there might be 1188 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 3: an appetite for it, and then that's how you grow. 1189 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 2: The fan base. 1190 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is like the worm on the hook. 1191 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 2: But it's a hell of a worm and it's a 1192 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 2: got to be a long hook. It's a head to 1193 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 2: get out there, and that's a cast. Yes, Australia going 1194 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 2: to Brazil. So I also saw Schefter today on his 1195 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 2: podcast saying that the NFL's plan is for in his head, 1196 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 2: the NFL plan is for one that for every NFL 1197 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: team to play one game overseas every year for every NFL, 1198 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 2: every NFL team will play, So they're every team team games. Yeah, 1199 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 2: sixteen overseas games. 1200 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 3: That seems that seems to be a bit much. 1201 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: That's a lot. That seems a bit much. 1202 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 4: I think that waters down the moment and the experience. 1203 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, I guess if you were trying to go to 1204 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 2: Madrid and you try to go to like. 1205 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 4: So why not rotate those you know you're going to 1206 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 4: go to London every year no matter what because you're 1207 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 4: Ingrain there. Yeah, so why not you take the Australia, 1208 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 4: you take the Germany, the Spanish game, and you just rotate, 1209 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 4: like every third year we're gonna go to Spain. Every 1210 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,479 Speaker 4: third year we're gonna go to Germany, Like we're gonna 1211 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 4: do two games over there. 1212 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, but how much more do you need? Like what 1213 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,760 Speaker 2: if you knew sixteen of them? Like, how many games 1214 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 2: is London gonna get? Like, are you how many? How 1215 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 2: many times you're gonna go to Madrid? How many? Like 1216 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 2: are people in Madrid gonna be like, oh my gosh, 1217 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: it's our fourth NFL game this time? We get these 1218 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 2: guys in, these guys. 1219 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 4: More importantly, like if you're if you're the if you're 1220 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 4: the Germans, you're not very pleased with what you're getting 1221 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 4: this year from the National Football League. 1222 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 2: No, isn't that Carolina and some giants? Giants? Yeah in Munich? Yeah, No, 1223 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, but obviously this is where we're headed. 1224 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,439 Speaker 2: And they, to your point, they're not they're not dumb, 1225 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 2: so they're doing it for a reason, but it's it's 1226 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 2: hard for me to see it. The NFL is going 1227 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: to test an optical tracking system to measure first downs 1228 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 2: in the preseason, a tracker will be placed in the 1229 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 2: ball to determine the spot. Chains will be used as 1230 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: a backup method. I like that. 1231 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 3: Why not if you can get it done. Why not 1232 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 3: get it done. If they can do this and it 1233 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 3: can enhance the game, and we know first downs are 1234 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 3: first downs. 1235 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 2: And all that, I'm all for it. Why not? Well, 1236 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 2: I think anytime you can have two middle aged men 1237 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 2: separated by chain and deciding the position of the ball 1238 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 2: by a man who's coming in from a scrum, whether 1239 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: walking in straight or not, who the hell knows. I 1240 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 2: think any time you can do that, you need to 1241 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 2: continue to do that. Yes, that is the best way 1242 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 2: to do it. That's the best way. That's the most 1243 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: accurate way to determine the spot of the ball is 1244 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 2: to have a guy run in thirty yards to the 1245 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 2: middle spot it best he can. And then somehow that 1246 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 2: transitions to a chain with two guys on it, and 1247 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 2: those two got that's thet you want accuracy. That's accuracy, baby, 1248 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 2: do you think it? 1249 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 3: Like the NFL's officials combine or NFL official training, they 1250 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 3: should have, like measure your ability to run in from 1251 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 3: the side for a straight line, Like that should be 1252 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 3: one of the skills, right, you should become you should 1253 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: become the best straight line, one of the best straight 1254 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 3: lines for the combine, Yes, the official combine and so 1255 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,479 Speaker 3: you see how much do they deviate from the line 1256 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 3: when they run in. 1257 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. This technology has existed for like a decade. Well, 1258 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 2: I'm glad they're going to use it. Finally, Like, how 1259 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 2: long has soccer been doing var I mean for off 1260 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 2: sidees calls? Like this is years? Yeah, like at least 1261 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 2: a decade you've had it? Yeah, Like, come on, this 1262 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 2: is a simple fix sort of. It's kind of like 1263 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 2: the college football rule where they forever they wouldn't let 1264 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 2: uh speakers and helmets in college football. Yeah, like, what 1265 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 2: are you trying to protect? The technology exists, It's not hard. 1266 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: It's not The Falcons added for limited partners to their 1267 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 2: ownership group. Is this I don't know who any of 1268 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 2: these people are. Is this anything to do with the 1269 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 2: private equity move? 1270 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 4: I don't think so, But isn't it Dominique Dawes, an 1271 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 4: Olympian gymnast. 1272 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 2: If you say so, that seems like possible from Brock Yeah, okay, 1273 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. Will Packer. I don't know if Sean 1274 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 2: Williams or Rosalind Brewer. I don't know any of them 1275 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 2: this idea. I don't know if these people are famous 1276 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 2: or not. Dowes I know no. Packer is a movie 1277 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 2: producer per Young Brock. Okay, so this is like what 1278 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 2: Steven Ross did with the Dolphins when he brought in 1279 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 2: that type of stuff. So people look, this is people 1280 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: want to cut Yep. It's a good business to be 1281 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 2: in and if you can use some influence to get there, 1282 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 2: God bless. We also have news that the twenty twenty 1283 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: six NFL Draft is headed to Pittsburgh. 1284 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 4: Enjoy your hot dog water, everybody. 1285 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds awful. I think that moving the NFL 1286 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 2: Draft is one of the coolest things the NFL has 1287 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 2: done great. I think it's it's basically their version of 1288 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 2: the All Star Game, like the NBA Major League Baseball 1289 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 2: All Star Game, because the Pro Bowl is what it is, 1290 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 2: so this is kind of the answer to that. So 1291 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 2: you are able to take it to different towns. It 1292 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 2: ain't for me. I don't understand it. I don't know 1293 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 2: why you'd want to be in a bunch of people 1294 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 2: watching people's introduced. I don't get it. I think it's 1295 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 2: amazing that they've turned it into like a like if 1296 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 2: you have a big crowd, it's a sense of pride 1297 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 2: for the town in the community. Like I don't understand it, 1298 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 2: but like. 1299 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 4: I know school, I know that the city of Detroit 1300 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 4: and the NFL were boasting about their numbers, but on 1301 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 4: by Saturday it did not look very full at all, 1302 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 4: no kidding and correct, But what I'm saying is night 1303 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 4: one is great, Night two is okay. Day three, but 1304 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 4: like even their Night two wasn't spectacular. And I just 1305 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 4: wonder again if obviously you're going to make your money 1306 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 4: on night one and it's going to be a big 1307 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 4: night and it's a big deal and it's a very 1308 00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 4: cool event to go and experience, but do we need 1309 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 4: to do two and three at the same city. I 1310 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:03,959 Speaker 4: guess it makes sense. 1311 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: I suppose once you're there, it's just easier to just 1312 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 2: do it rather than break down and reset up shops 1313 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: somewhere else. But look, I mean, it's it's not for me, 1314 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 2: but people love it. 1315 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 3: I just there's something cool about being it Radio City 1316 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,959 Speaker 3: Music Hall in New York. 1317 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 2: It was awesome. Yeah, no, no, no, I see both 1318 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 2: sides of it, but I understand. I do think this 1319 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 2: is like the one thing that they can do. Like 1320 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 2: they've taken something that nobody ever thought could be a 1321 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 2: deal and turned it into a big deal. Yep. Like 1322 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 2: the first time they forever, it was just at Radio 1323 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 2: City Music Hall. That was it, and you did it well. 1324 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 2: Then they took it on the road and you were like, oh, 1325 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 2: NFL fans are crazy, they're gonna do this. They're gonna 1326 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 2: put two hundred thousand people in Kansas City and Detroit, 1327 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 2: and you know, we had it. 1328 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 4: The COVID year like Nashville. 1329 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's down Broadway in Nashville. Like it's so it's changed. 1330 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 2: They took something that was no one ever considered. 1331 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 3: Doing, made it a thing helmet phones, yeah. 1332 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Right, and then they made it a traveling circus of course. 1333 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 2: And so like awarding the draft to a city is 1334 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 2: similar to like when you award an All Star game 1335 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 2: and the other sports to the other cities. Because the 1336 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 2: NFL doesn't have an All Star Game of any note. 1337 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 2: So that's that's so I kind of like it. It's 1338 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Green Bay twenty twenty five, I think, right, Green Bay 1339 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and then Pittzer twenty twenty six. So 1340 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 2: we need we need to redo because ours we were COVID. 1341 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, which we we will, I asked. I asked Adel 1342 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 3: about that before one of the games last year, Get 1343 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,919 Speaker 3: one back. Yeah, it was great, we liked it. We'd 1344 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 3: love to come back. 1345 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:36,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1346 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 2: I think it's the key to this is going to 1347 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 2: be that they continue to do northern cities. Like you're 1348 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 2: not going to get a reaction you go to Miami. 1349 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 2: You don't need a draft in Miami, don't need to 1350 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 2: do it in Los Angeles. It's gonna it's got to 1351 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 2: be northern cities or cold weather cities. Yeah, you know 1352 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 2: where it's like spring and hey, it's nice out, let's 1353 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 2: all go out. 1354 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 5: Stuff. 1355 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 2: So risky though, April can be. It is a little dice. 1356 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 2: Aple can be as it can be. You can deal 1357 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 2: around here. We've had a lot of electricity. You could 1358 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 2: be got this power meeting happening out here. Yeah, you 1359 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 2: and I wondered if anyone would ever do it. So 1360 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 2: you think this is a real meeting or do you 1361 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 2: think it's a mock. No, that's a meeting. 1362 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 3: We got multiple computers open, we got looks like some 1363 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 3: spreadsheets to excel. 1364 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 2: Maybe how could you have them like in the thoroughfare 1365 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 2: because it's there? Do you think they were ordered to do? 1366 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 5: So? 1367 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 2: You guys have to meet you guys have to have 1368 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,439 Speaker 2: meetings there? 1369 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 4: Would you choose to? 1370 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 3: I think it's if you build it, they will come. 1371 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's been built before and they never did. If 1372 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 2: it were you and you had a department that you 1373 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 2: were lording over, like mister electricity, how would you would 1374 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 2: you do it there? No? 1375 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 4: No, of course not. 1376 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 2: There's other rooms. 1377 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 3: No, let's say come here, come in, come in here, 1378 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 3: you guys, come here. 1379 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 2: We'ren't doing it in here. Yeah, so that's going to go. 1380 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 2: All right, it's hidarious. 1381 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,479 Speaker 4: Zadarius is next. 1382 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 2: All right, there you go. 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Plus family is hanging out, throwing football, 1401 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 2: is just taking. 1402 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 5: It all in. 1403 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 2: It's convention. It looks like a convention. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1404 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 2: So I get it. I get it. I get it. 1405 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 5: Man. 1406 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: Uh here's Zadarius Smith at the podium. 1407 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 10: So you're gonna start with the hair and uh just 1408 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 10: woke up one morning, man, and I thought I was 1409 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 10: ready for a change. I said that now that I'm thirty, 1410 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 10: you know, I want to go with a new look. 1411 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 10: I've been talking to my parents you know, my mom 1412 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 10: and my kids, and they always like a dram with me. 1413 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 10: So I'm glad I did it. I looked better, look younger, 1414 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 10: look slimmer, So I'm happy about it for sure. Sat 1415 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 10: that against They liked the new look. They said, I 1416 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 10: look younger, So I'm happy with it. You know, I'm 1417 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 10: not the UNC anymore, as they you know, class classified 1418 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 10: me as. But it's just just happy to be back 1419 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 10: man with the team and just getting started with OTAs 1420 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 10: and just getting ready for training camp. 1421 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 5: As it come upon us how they reactually watch them. Ah, Man, 1422 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 5: they didn't know who I was. 1423 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 10: Uh, but a lot of people had jokes, you know, 1424 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 10: but you know, it's all love, man, Like I said, 1425 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 10: this is a brotherhood. You know, you can come in 1426 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 10: how you want to and be yourself here. So I 1427 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 10: was just happy to do that, man, and just excited 1428 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 10: about about the new haircut. 1429 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 9: That was the chief motivation for you to resign. 1430 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 1431 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 10: The culture, the chemistry with this team man, everything, the brotherhood, man, 1432 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 10: the team camaraderie. 1433 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 5: I had chances to go. 1434 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 10: Other places, uh, but I felt like I didn't want that. 1435 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 5: Man. 1436 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 10: I felt like we didn't get the way we wanted to. 1437 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 10: Last year, man, and we got something that we need 1438 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 10: to finish here and hopefully we can get that done 1439 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 10: this year. 1440 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,959 Speaker 8: You look at the way that the defense wasn't there 1441 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 8: run obviously finishing one of a lot of metrics. Yeah, 1442 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 8: obviously the playoff came not being representative what you guys 1443 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 8: think you want? 1444 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think. 1445 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 4: Is like. 1446 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 10: From the guys to really you know, I said more time, man, 1447 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,439 Speaker 10: Like I said, going in the year two, now under 1448 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 10: source defense, everybody can now you know, get a little 1449 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 10: more comfortable. 1450 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 5: You know. 1451 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 10: For myself, coming from a three fourth system, I was 1452 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 10: always a guy who who had to stand up, you know, 1453 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 10: So just being down in the three point now not 1454 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 10: really looking at formations was something new for me. But 1455 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 10: now I'm starting to get the hang of it. 1456 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 5: Man. And as you can see this year, you'll see 1457 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 5: a better zee. I can tell you that much. 1458 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 2: How much do you. 1459 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 6: Pick, you know, take pride, you see my house go 1460 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 6: out with DP? Yeah, how much of you guys as 1461 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 6: a defense, especially his defensive line take fright? And it's like, 1462 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 6: you know, we sort of you know, we had a 1463 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 6: it was him in his time, but you know we 1464 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 6: may you know. 1465 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 10: Uh, I mean we said that before we even came 1466 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 10: in for training camp that he was gonna get that. 1467 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 10: We saw that, you know, from how he was working 1468 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 10: and preparing before practice and just the little things that 1469 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 10: he was doing. And as we all know, he's a 1470 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 10: freaking freak athlete. Man, it's big for him, but we 1471 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 10: all are happy for him. Hopefully we can run it 1472 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 10: back this year man, and hopefully somebody else on it 1473 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 10: defense can get dp O. Why this ship, but much 1474 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 10: love to him. I talked to him and hopefully he'll 1475 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 10: he'll be back soon, talk to DABVN, talk to guys 1476 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 10: like Shelby man. So hopefully everybody will be back soon 1477 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 10: and where this thing can really get going. 1478 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: Why do you think guys came out short in that. 1479 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 7: Years the game? 1480 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 5: Uh? 1481 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 10: I don't know, man, but I I know someone coach 1482 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 10: told me earlier. Man, we're not even gonna talk about 1483 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 10: the past, so we're gonna focus on the future. 1484 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 5: How about that? 1485 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1486 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure that was a great answer. 1487 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 2: Right. How much has you gone on in your career? 1488 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 2: How much have you know, have you adjusted? And you 1489 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 2: know yourself as you go through these off. 1490 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 6: This offseason program and you'll find you what you need 1491 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 6: and how much how different is it for you now 1492 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 6: maybe compared to five ten years ago. 1493 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 10: For you know, I said, doing the little things fundumentals. 1494 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 10: If you if you continue to do that before and 1495 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 10: after practice, man, you just better in your crab. I know, 1496 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 10: I got a coach who always told me, if you 1497 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 10: don't use it, you'll lose it. So for me to 1498 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 10: be able to come back out here and just get work, 1499 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 10: you know, we got a new D line coach. We're 1500 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 10: learn learning new things, a bunch of young guys man 1501 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 10: who wanna learn. So it's all good for us in 1502 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 10: our D line room and hopefully we could come out 1503 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 10: and be a number one defensive line this year. 1504 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 2: So what's it? 1505 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 5: What are your impressions of Shotgun? I mean, it looks 1506 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 5: like he's really detailed oriented pretty much. 1507 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 10: I like him man, younger cat man coming in, got 1508 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 10: manners man, and he's wanting to learn for real. He's 1509 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 10: the first one in the in the meeting rooms before 1510 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 10: we get in there, so that's a big thing. But 1511 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 10: I also told him today, uh that we didn't have 1512 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 10: any snacks, so for sure he gotta make that happen 1513 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 10: tomorrow for us. On the new faces that you do 1514 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 10: that on'll be asking me how for you as a 1515 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 10: veteran you uh, very excited for me, you know going 1516 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 10: into year ten. A lot of people don't get a 1517 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 10: chance to make it to year ten. But for me, man, 1518 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 10: it's just being that leader now growing up aer around 1519 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 10: guys like to Real Suggs and CJ. Moseley, Eric Weddle. 1520 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 10: You know, I learned a lot from those guys. So 1521 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 10: hopefully for me now as a vent can be able 1522 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 10: to pass that down to the youngest guys. 1523 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 5: As we was just talking. 1524 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 7: About, well can you talk about Yes, you played with 1525 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 7: him there, Biggs. 1526 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, great guy. Man. 1527 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 10: You know we actually came out together at twenty fifteen. 1528 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 10: So for me to go to the Vikings man, and 1529 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 10: for him to sign with the Vikings was big because 1530 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 10: I think at that time we was going in the 1531 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 10: year eight together. But for him in its two years 1532 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 10: with the Vikings and you know, only played one there, 1533 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 10: but it was just that team camaraderie. Man, he created 1534 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 10: that brotherhood because you know, he's the one with the mic, 1535 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 10: He's the one. 1536 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 5: That got to get the calls and got to talk 1537 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 5: to everybody. 1538 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 10: So for him to be that opening man and being 1539 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 10: a big brother from just coming here since day one 1540 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 10: means a lot, man, and hopefully he can he can 1541 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 10: hold it down for us in the middle. 1542 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 2: How nice was it to field woman? 1543 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,680 Speaker 5: You knowed? 1544 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, for one, I'm not sorry for ball player. 1545 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 10: And for two, you know, I didn't been a been 1546 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 10: a lot of places, man, and made a name for 1547 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 10: myself being wanted. I'm not gonna say that is a thing. 1548 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 10: But for me to come back, you know, like I said, 1549 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 10: I have other options to go Miami, Washington something, I 1550 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 10: could have went anywhere, but I wanted to come back 1551 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 10: here because I see something in this team that a 1552 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 10: lot of people just don't see. Man for being in 1553 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,720 Speaker 10: the locker room and I was talking about the team camaraderie. Man, 1554 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 10: if we keep that close and keep keep it together 1555 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 10: in this man, we can go far this shit hopefully. 1556 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 11: See you guys can see the short Yeah, and how 1557 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 11: much are you looking forward to to, you know, getting 1558 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 11: after it a little bit with uh, you know, at 1559 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 11: least just the speed of the game and. 1560 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 5: Helping him get I mean, we're all excited. 1561 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 10: You know, we get number one quarterback back, but you know, 1562 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 10: we we got backups now, Jameis, we got the younger 1563 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 10: guys too, But to have him back is big, you know, 1564 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 10: for him to get his confident back. I know that 1565 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,799 Speaker 10: he went through an injury last year. You know, coming 1566 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 10: back from injuries could be hard for a lot of people. 1567 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 10: For me myself, I went through a back injury, like 1568 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 10: you said, being wanted. 1569 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 5: I thought at that time career was over with. 1570 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 10: But for him, I'm just saying the confidence, the smiles 1571 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 10: on his face every time I come to work in 1572 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 10: the morning, and just that leadership on the offensive side 1573 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 10: of the ball. When something's not going right, he'll basically 1574 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 10: stop to play and like, come on, let's start over. 1575 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 10: So to have that leadership at our quarterback position is 1576 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 10: big for us and hopefully, like I said, we can 1577 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 10: go far this shit. 1578 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 2: You took notice somethings that areas said and the first 1579 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 2: he came back. 1580 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 3: The reason he can make the culture. I mean that 1581 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:33,800 Speaker 3: this is a guy whos been in the playoffs with 1582 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 3: the Ravens, been in the playoffs with the Packers. That's 1583 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 3: not something that was said about the Cleveland Browns. And 1584 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 3: that tells you when you don't need it from us, 1585 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 3: the players are going to tell you, and decisions that 1586 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,560 Speaker 3: the players make will tell you what they think of 1587 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,839 Speaker 3: the culture when guys like Zadarius Shelby, Harris Rodney McLeod, 1588 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 3: who all could have gone elsewhere, came back for a 1589 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 3: second year. Yes, Rightning clod wants to finish his career 1590 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 3: as a Cleveland Brown This is his last season. They 1591 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 3: wanted to come back here. That says a lot. That 1592 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,639 Speaker 3: says a lot more. And it's it's a different thing 1593 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 3: than has been able to be have been said about 1594 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 3: the cleveand Browns in a very very long time. So 1595 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 3: it's a good thing and it's really been building that 1596 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 3: way for a few years. But now you have a 1597 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,600 Speaker 3: chance of what we haven't done yet is now go 1598 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 3: kind of the back to back, become a perennial playoff team. 1599 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 3: And you've got a chance to do that this year. 1600 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Here's the thing you can I don't. I don't even 1601 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 2: if this isn't a stretch. You cannot have culture without winning. 1602 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: Otherwise just bad culture. Yeah, that's it. So you can 1603 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 2: hire the best people, you can talk about doing things 1604 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,799 Speaker 2: the right way, but you need to draft the right players. 1605 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 2: They need to live up to how they're drafted. You 1606 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 2: need to sign the right free agents, and you need 1607 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,639 Speaker 2: to win. You need to win and then you can 1608 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 2: have culture, but you can't. You can talk all the 1609 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 2: people talk all they want about Pittsburgh culture. Well they 1610 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 2: they've won, so used to it. That's culture. Yeah, it's easy. Yeah, 1611 01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 2: when when comes just win baby, Yeah, that's it. It's 1612 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 2: it's really difficult to try to create something. But once 1613 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 2: you get it going, you can keep it and you 1614 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 2: can maintain it over the long period. And hopefully that's 1615 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 2: where we are now. All right, Coming up next, we'll 1616 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 2: do a little thing or not a thing most vulnerable 1617 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 2: reigning Division champs. According to the NFL dot COM's Judy Battista, 1618 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 2: that is coming up next. 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Hello Gibbe 1626 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 2: Hi Boys. 1627 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 4: Young Brock had a question yesterday and I was saving 1628 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:25,719 Speaker 4: it for today. 1629 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,759 Speaker 2: Okay, he said. 1630 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 4: We were talking about the show rundowns for the week 1631 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 4: and I mentioned First Friday and Brock said, wait a minute, 1632 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 4: tomorrow's Wednesday. You don't have this ride. I said, it's 1633 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 4: first Friday. I'm pretty sure that I do. And I 1634 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 4: tried to explain the first Friday miracle. Now I did 1635 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 4: not do the job that you can do on this, 1636 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 4: so I'm turning it over to you to explain to 1637 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 4: young Brock why it's the first Friday creation him being 1638 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 4: in college and being in. 1639 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 2: A FRONTI boy, he's gonna really love it. I'm just saying, Brock, 1640 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 2: what before I continue. I guess in our conversation, if 1641 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 2: you're comfortable, fine, If not, fine too. We won't have 1642 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 2: to get into it. 1643 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 4: But your age is what nineteen almost, so. 1644 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 2: You'll enjoy this when you're twenty one. You're gonna enjoy 1645 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,679 Speaker 2: this in a couple of years because no one drinks. 1646 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 2: That's all I do a cow twenty enjoy a beverage. 1647 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,679 Speaker 2: Wait until you're twenty one, and then you can enjoy responsibility. Here. 1648 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 2: This is what a first Friday is. As I never 1649 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 2: liked having to spell the word Wednesday as a kid. 1650 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 2: I did not like the idea of the fact that 1651 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't sound the way that it's spelt. They should 1652 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 2: just flip the end and the d what it solved it, 1653 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 2: but they didn't, so they left it stupid. So yeah, 1654 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 2: I always thought hump Day was lame. Hey, hippie hump Day. 1655 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:43,719 Speaker 5: It sucks. 1656 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 2: So in an effort when I was in come on 1657 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 2: the one. The camel is good. There's some good ad. 1658 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 2: So in an effort to get in the right frame 1659 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,600 Speaker 2: of mind. This is like twenty years ago when I 1660 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 2: was in Tallahassee, I created First Friday. And it's a 1661 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 2: mindset first and foremost of act like Wednesday's Friday. And 1662 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 2: so go out, enjoy yourself, have a cocktail. Worst case scenario, 1663 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,599 Speaker 2: you tie one on, maybe a little too tight. All 1664 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 2: you gotta do is get through a Thursday and it's 1665 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 2: another Friday. You're right back in it, right there, You're 1666 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 2: right there, And who wouldn't want two Fridays in a week. 1667 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 2: So then from a mindset standpoint for me, it breaks 1668 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 2: my week up into two little mini weeks. I got 1669 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 2: to get to First Friday, enjoy myself, especially back when 1670 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 2: I was banging back in the old days. And then 1671 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 2: you get into Friday and you're right back at it. 1672 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 2: Then you set that's it. Well that there you go. 1673 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,799 Speaker 2: You're so you're like the hulks are clinging and banging, 1674 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 2: shucking and jiving. That's what you're out there living. Yeah, 1675 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 2: you gotta get out there a little bit. So that's it. 1676 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,719 Speaker 5: Oh that was good. 1677 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 2: I was right for that. So that's your first Friday. 1678 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 2: So when you brock, when you become twenty one, then 1679 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 2: you can celebrate a first Friday in your fraternity or 1680 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 2: go to establishments where of course you'll legally be allowed 1681 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 2: to consume and enjoy yourself and act accordingly and and 1682 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 2: have a good time. So it's hey, for happy first Friday, 1683 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 2: act accordingly. There you go. 1684 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 5: That's it. 1685 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeahday, it's honestly. 1686 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 4: It's I mean, he should take this back. He could 1687 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:23,560 Speaker 4: be the hero of his fraternity. 1688 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 2: What for sure, what this became like in the South 1689 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 2: was a holiday, Like it was what are you doing 1690 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,679 Speaker 2: for first Friday? Where are we going? Where we meeting? 1691 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 2: Like that was it became thing? That was it? Like 1692 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 2: it was all of that. Now it's a mindset for 1693 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 2: me for sure. 1694 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 3: For us in college, first Friday was Thursday. 1695 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 2: Dude, it don't act like I didn't do a Thursday. 1696 01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 2: Of course, Thursday was because you could do it. Dude, 1697 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 2: I did a Monday. Come on, what are we talking 1698 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 2: about Wedday? Wednesday was the only day that was there 1699 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 2: was kind of a whole. Everything else was like Tuesday 1700 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 2: you kind of took off, but Monday was good. Was 1701 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 2: the off day. Monday you needed it. Tuesday's been an 1702 01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 2: off day, and then Thursday you're right back in it. 1703 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 2: Wednesday was always a whole, And it was like, dude, 1704 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,880 Speaker 2: why like, let's let's first Friday, the sucker up, Let's 1705 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 2: get on live a little bit acting accordingly. But yeah, 1706 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,759 Speaker 2: you want to have a good time on a Thursday. 1707 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 2: Who cares, it's Friday. The next day, You're already there, 1708 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,719 Speaker 2: five day weekend every week. Let's go easy. 1709 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 5: That's why. 1710 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 2: And for me, it's school. Monday was Tuesday was really 1711 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 2: the only day I wanted to recover. It was Tuesday. Yeah, 1712 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,640 Speaker 2: I mean this became I mean what I do in 1713 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 2: the morning, it's become part of something. And then what 1714 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,360 Speaker 2: But like I remember, like when I was on television 1715 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,639 Speaker 2: in Tallahassee, like there was a place that we would 1716 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 2: go to that then promoted. 1717 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 4: First Fridays genius like, let's trendsetter. 1718 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,640 Speaker 2: Let's go first Friday. Enjoy your school, act to court, 1719 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,240 Speaker 2: have a cocktail, nobody gets hurt. Nope, there you go. 1720 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 4: Here for it all yep, here for a thing or 1721 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 4: not a thing? 1722 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 1723 01:17:55,320 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 4: Cat From Judy Battista, twenty twenty four NFL season The 1724 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 4: most vulnerable reigning division champions. 1725 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,600 Speaker 2: All right, they ranked them all right? So should we 1726 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 2: listen who they are? So can I? 1727 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 3: I was going to see if I could do that 1728 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,600 Speaker 3: off the top of ok, I have it up, I 1729 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 3: have it up all right, West, NFC West. 1730 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 2: Starting the NFC. I would start AFC. 1731 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 3: You started NFCR, NFC West, Niners, South, Tampa yep, East, Dallas. 1732 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 2: Yep, North Detroit too easy, too easy, drill Sergeant. 1733 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 3: Too easy, a f C West, Kansas City, South, Houston, East. 1734 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:41,720 Speaker 2: This is the only one I was unsure of. 1735 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 3: Miami, Buffalo, Buffalo, Okay, North same record though North Baltimore. 1736 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 4: Ye nailed it seven out of eight, not too shabby, 1737 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 4: and it was I. 1738 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:59,000 Speaker 2: Mean, there's an easy number one on this list. To me, 1739 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 2: by I think it's by far the easiest number one. 1740 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:03,560 Speaker 2: It's Tampa. 1741 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 4: Yes, she has them down. As one a to Buffalo 1742 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 4: with Buffalo the other one. No, are the Ravens, No 1743 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 4: Dallas Dallas? 1744 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I don't I could see Dallas 1745 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,160 Speaker 2: winning a division again. Well, I don't think here's anything 1746 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 2: you have to remember, Like there's a point at the 1747 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 2: first half of last year where it felt like Philadelphia 1748 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,800 Speaker 2: was a was impervious, yeah to all, and then they 1749 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 2: were just kept acquiring. Then they became very normal as 1750 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 2: the season went along. So like it's very it's much 1751 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 2: more easy for me to project. I could see. It's 1752 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 2: easy for me to see Dallas winning the division again, 1753 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,280 Speaker 2: even though they didn't do anything this offseason. I understand 1754 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,639 Speaker 2: how she could have them there, whereas Buffalo Tampa Bay 1755 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 2: is an easy one. Buffalo the Ravens, like there's road 1756 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 2: maps for those that it seemed more seemed just as. 1757 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,439 Speaker 4: Plausible now that it's interesting because we had Philly on 1758 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,799 Speaker 4: an unbelievable pedestal last year and Rifley, so they acquired 1759 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 4: a ton of people in the off season. They made 1760 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 4: some great moves. They have all this talent, But the 1761 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,720 Speaker 4: first time we watched them in joint practices, we were like, 1762 01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,680 Speaker 4: there is something a little different about this group that 1763 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 4: maybe they're not as they're good, but maybe not as 1764 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 4: good as we all thought they were. And that's what 1765 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 4: you get out of joint practices more so than any 1766 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 4: other preseason game. 1767 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,439 Speaker 2: Well, I think the other thing is is like there 1768 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 2: was a price to pay for what they do with 1769 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. Yes, yes, it's a lot of hits. Yeah, 1770 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 2: you know, so like if you're gonna do that and 1771 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 2: getting mangled in that push tush thing that they do. 1772 01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,200 Speaker 3: Well, they're not going to do anymore those. Jason Kelsey 1773 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 3: really was the end. It was the combination of them two. 1774 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 2: But like he's gonna get battered, Yeah, and that's what happened. 1775 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:56,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, So she has number one one A was Dallas. 1776 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,639 Speaker 2: See to me, it's been Dallas. So Dallas has. 1777 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 3: One allnger in Philly, the Giants are not a challenger, 1778 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 3: at least I don't believe the Giants are challenger. 1779 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,799 Speaker 2: And Washington is not a challenger. 1780 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 3: In the South Tampa Bay, I think could be challenged 1781 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 3: by either Atlanta or New Orleans. 1782 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1783 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,800 Speaker 3: In the East Buffalo, which I think legitimately could be 1784 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 3: number one on this list. Other than I thought they 1785 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 3: were going to be the one with Tampa, they can 1786 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,559 Speaker 3: legitimately be challenged by both the Jets and the Dolphins. 1787 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,759 Speaker 3: And in the North Baltimore can be a little legitimately 1788 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 3: challenged by Cincinnati and US. 1789 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 2: Well and even Pittsburgh. Yeah, okay, I'm not crazy about it, 1790 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 2: but like all they do is win, correct, Like, so 1791 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 2: there's three there. I think that NFC West. 1792 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 4: Can you make an argument for Houston two at five? 1793 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I mean I think most San Francisco, 1794 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 2: like San Francisco is, they have the straightest path, best roster, 1795 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,559 Speaker 2: they should be the last, like they're them in Kansas City, 1796 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 2: but even Kansas City, well the problem is all those 1797 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,800 Speaker 2: teams took a step back. I mean, like Kansas City 1798 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 2: could go. 1799 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 3: Like Kansas City. I think Kansas City is as unopposed 1800 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 3: as the nine. Yeah, they're both just and in fact, 1801 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 3: I would say the Rams are more likely than anybody 1802 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 3: in the AFC West to maybe. 1803 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Be I don't have a problem with that because well 1804 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 2: we just the only thing is, like I'll give Harbaugh credit, 1805 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,720 Speaker 2: like he knows how to win, how to win, but 1806 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,599 Speaker 2: like they got they got a lot to build. 1807 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 3: The the Detroit Lions, I have I think three reasonable challengers. 1808 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I think Chicago could step up 1809 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 2: Green Bay for sure. Minnesota is the worst of them, 1810 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 2: but they still have a ton of talent. Yeah, yeah, no, 1811 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 2: I agree, I think so. I think if you, if you, 1812 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,280 Speaker 2: if we were to do this, can we agree Tampa 1813 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 2: number one most vulnerable? Yes? 1814 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what. 1815 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Oh my god. Remind before 1816 01:22:55,280 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 2: we even go on, did you see Rogers press conference yesterday? Yes? No, 1817 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:05,000 Speaker 2: So he answers this like they ask him about him 1818 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 2: being vice president of RFK Junior, and with a straight face, 1819 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 2: he goes, I don't even know how he got it out, 1820 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,759 Speaker 2: but he goes, you know, he I had two choices. 1821 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 2: I could either be vice president or I could still 1822 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,799 Speaker 2: keep playing football, and I wanted to keep playing football. 1823 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:28,439 Speaker 2: And I'm just like that, what I mean? It was wild. 1824 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,840 Speaker 2: It's a wild press conference, wild and New York media. 1825 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,960 Speaker 2: I can't tell no, because he's really good buddies with 1826 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 2: a J Hawk and AJ Hawk's a good dude who 1827 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 2: I know really well. And so I think this is all. 1828 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 2: I think A lot of this is stick, I do. 1829 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,000 Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think he believes all 1830 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,640 Speaker 2: of it. But I think he enjoys. I think he 1831 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 2: believes some of it, and I think he enjoys being 1832 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,240 Speaker 2: in the middle of it. 1833 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 4: He's being talked about vant and I think he likes. 1834 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 2: Messing with the media a little bit. And so, yeah, no, 1835 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 2: I don't think he No, I don't think so. All right, Sorry, 1836 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,520 Speaker 2: but as we were talking about the Jets. 1837 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 4: I don't know that I wouldn't. I think Buffalo Buffalo 1838 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,240 Speaker 4: is more vulnerable than Tampa Bay because the division is 1839 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:11,799 Speaker 4: easier in the NFC. 1840 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,439 Speaker 3: I just think that I think they're similarly to me. 1841 01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,719 Speaker 3: They're they're the two most vulnerable. That's the most vulnerable 1842 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 3: in the NFC, and then this is the most one. 1843 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,640 Speaker 2: I guess I'm just more confident. I could see a 1844 01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 2: scenario where, because of how much winning they've done, Josh 1845 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,800 Speaker 2: Allen puts an operation on his back and they go 1846 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 2: eleven and six and that's good enough. 1847 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,879 Speaker 4: If they go eleven and six and make the playoffs, 1848 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,000 Speaker 4: he's probably the favorite for MVP, because I have no 1849 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,360 Speaker 4: idea who he's even throwing to. 1850 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean eleven and six last year. I mean 1851 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 2: I just could see. I just they've won there, like 1852 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 2: they they're not worried about it. 1853 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 4: I know, I just I look, I'm looking at the 1854 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 4: division like. 1855 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,000 Speaker 2: If I'm bet all right, this is the way I'd 1856 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,639 Speaker 2: put it. If we could say that the threats are similar. 1857 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,559 Speaker 2: Based on that, we could all agree Buffalo is better 1858 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 2: than Tampa Bay even with everything that's happened. We could 1859 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,879 Speaker 2: also agree that the threats for Buffalo are more considerable 1860 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,080 Speaker 2: than the threats for Tampa Bay. In terms of Miami 1861 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,280 Speaker 2: and the Jets, their ceilings is very are very high. 1862 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,760 Speaker 2: So then it just comes down to I would bet 1863 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,680 Speaker 2: on Allen more than Bake. Absolutely. 1864 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1865 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 2: So that's why I have Tampa Bay one and Buffalo 1866 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,680 Speaker 2: two on that list. 1867 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 4: Who would you put three? Is Dallas three? 1868 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:24,560 Speaker 2: I think Dallas. 1869 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,800 Speaker 3: I had the Ravens three, I had the Yeah, Ravens three, Dallas. 1870 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 4: For Ravens three, Dallas for I think I might put 1871 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 4: Houston for I Again, I think we're crowning them real early. 1872 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 2: The only thing is like in that who's gonna come up? 1873 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,400 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it Jacksonville? I don't believe in Indy 1874 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,679 Speaker 2: with what amounts to a rookie quarterback. So the biggest 1875 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 2: threat for Houston is Jacksonville. Yes, like Anthony richards is 1876 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,800 Speaker 2: not going to come out. He's not gonna be No, 1877 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 2: they were after a whole year out. 1878 01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 3: They were a playoff team, all right, So then should 1879 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,680 Speaker 3: Houston They were a play away from winning their division. 1880 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,599 Speaker 2: Down Minshew. But I think I'm also buying into the 1881 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 2: idea that well, I don't know that Richardson will be 1882 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 2: better than Minshew. It will be different. Very who did that? 1883 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 3: Did they Did they add somebody or back up? 1884 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:21,519 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1885 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, they signed Pittman to they have Josh downs? 1886 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 4: Did they have mix and maybe by the way, got 1887 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 4: hurt today in their ot as there was a collision. 1888 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:35,240 Speaker 4: He was down for minutes before walking off with trainers. 1889 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 5: That's not good. 1890 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 2: I think I think Houston is going to be fine. 1891 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 4: So would you move the Lions ahead of Houston? Knowing 1892 01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,639 Speaker 4: the competition in the NFC North. 1893 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 2: I would probably have Houston fifth with Jacksonville is the 1894 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 2: biggest threat. I think Detroit's in a pretty good spot, 1895 01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,480 Speaker 2: to be honest. 1896 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 3: Detroit in a good spot. Green Bay's good. 1897 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,680 Speaker 4: Jordan loves good, sure, because every time we thought that 1898 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 4: last year, what do you mean? 1899 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 2: He was really good? Down the street he made one 1900 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,599 Speaker 2: bead throat at the end of the NFC Divisional game 1901 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,000 Speaker 2: at San Francisco. Yeah, that was about it. 1902 01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 5: That was about it. 1903 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,679 Speaker 2: All, right, Who am I missing? So Niners are eight, 1904 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,720 Speaker 2: Kansas City nine both. Hard to see any path for 1905 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 2: them to not be winning. 1906 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 4: Case is eight because there's only eight of them. 1907 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:37,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Niners eight, Casey seven six in Houston five. 1908 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cowboys four, Ravens three. 1909 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 2: I think there's a decent gap between the first four 1910 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 2: and the and the next two, and then there's a 1911 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 2: huge gap between the next two and then last two, 1912 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,640 Speaker 2: like if Kansas City or it would take like an 1913 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,640 Speaker 2: injury to Mahomes. 1914 01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 3: Right, which is not what we're talking, which is what 1915 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 3: we're saying on correct right now? What's the biggest threat 1916 01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 3: then they're just really the biggest art to Case's is 1917 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 3: KSE is a devastating injury that robs them as opposed 1918 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,599 Speaker 3: somebody usurping them at full strength. 1919 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,840 Speaker 2: You remember, well when when they acquired when Denver acquired 1920 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and the Chargers had all that weaponry and 1921 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,880 Speaker 2: Garoppolo was in Vegas, in Kansasity's Kansas City, you got 1922 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 2: that might be the best vision in football, and the 1923 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 2: three of them all just pushed in the chips. So 1924 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 2: we can't beat him right now, so let's push it 1925 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:30,760 Speaker 2: down the road. 1926 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 3: I think the Chargers made a mistake in sticking with 1927 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 3: their coach for as long as they did. 1928 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 2: They went five and twelve. Yeah, with Justin Herbert, I 1929 01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 2: know they had a ton of injuries. Five and twelve. 1930 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 3: It's crazy, he's nasty. I'm not going to be picking 1931 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 3: them in the preseason this year, though. 1932 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 2: This will be the year. You don't, you guys, worry 1933 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 2: about it, not picking that. All right, there you go, 1934 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 2: so much more to come. 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And ye, his 1945 01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 2: he comes in shut out of a cannon. So that'll 1946 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,320 Speaker 2: be fun. It's gonna be very fun. Yeah, you have 1947 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,599 Speaker 2: that to look forward to, which is very very quite nice. Yeah, 1948 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 2: all right, enjoy your first Friday act. Accordingly, the next 1949 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 2: level is coming up next. Thanks for listening to the 1950 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,640 Speaker 2: cleved eight fifty esp and. 1951 01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 1: Cleveland You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production 1952 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,839 Speaker 1: of The Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland 1953 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 4: M