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Speaker 1: Ten minutes from now, Lewis Riddick Espner, former NFL execond player,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be joining us. Can't wait. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about this on this Thursday morning with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and the Saints playing tonight. Saints are not a very

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Speaker 1: good team. I never begrudge anybody. I don't have envy

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Speaker 1: when it comes to people making a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to get paid forty million, you've

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Speaker 1: got to be able to win without Amari Cooper, and

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield can win when everybody's healthy. Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 1: now ten and one in his career without Davante Adams

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Speaker 1: to me as good a receiver as the NFL has,

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Speaker 1: maybe only behind DeAndre Hopkins and slightly ahead of Stefan

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Speaker 1: dis ten and one. Aaron Jones is out. He lost

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Speaker 1: his Pro Bowl center from last year. He lost his

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level tight end. These are key offensive pieces.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just keeps winning. Patrick Mahomes had a rebuilt

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Speaker 1: offensive line, lost top running back Sammy Watkins in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Tougher he's schedule. Yet they've beaten every average team they've played.

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Speaker 1: They've beaten Washington, and they've beaten the Giants, and they

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Speaker 1: beat Green Bay Without Aaron Rodgers. Like Dak Prescott needs

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Speaker 1: to beat the Saints, Amari Cooper is a good receiver.

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's passer rating goes from one hundred and three

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Speaker 1: to ninety three without Amari Cooper. He goes from three

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Speaker 1: hundred five yards a game passing to two hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: sixty four and a half completion percentage. Amari Cooper is

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Speaker 1: not that special. It's also a team that's got other

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Speaker 1: weapons beyond Amari Cooper. I never ever resent people making money.

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Speaker 1: My concern with Dak Zoa's all right, what happens when

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Speaker 1: you lose your left tackle, your star receiver Okay Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. I think we should have two tiers

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Speaker 1: for paying quarterbacks in this league, the big bag in

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Speaker 1: the small bag. I'm still going to argue Dak's probably

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Speaker 1: closer to the twenty nine million than the forty five million.

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Speaker 1: I don't begrudge it, but watching him not quite be

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Speaker 1: between the big bag. To me, regardless if you get

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Speaker 1: it or not, Kirk Cousins can win when everybody's upright.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr beating the Cowboys and Dak without Henry Ruggs

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Speaker 1: a big bag performance to me. You know, one of

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Speaker 1: the advantages to being older. I'm in my fifties now,

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Speaker 1: but if you're twenty four is there's limitations on what

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Speaker 1: economist named Stephen Levitt who co wrote Freakonomics, and he

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Speaker 1: And six months later they did follow up research and

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Speaker 1: what they found was for important decisions like quitting a

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Speaker 1: get that guy. That guy's good, he's confident, he's he's

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Speaker 1: got a point of view. Well, now, Lewis Riddick. So

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Speaker 1: and in the end, what John Marra has to figure

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Speaker 1: of Daniel is it more of the offensive line? Is

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Speaker 1: him when he was at USC. Every division in the

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Speaker 1: AFC West it is as well. My coach of the

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Speaker 1: that's emerging as San Francisco and offensive coach. Now, we

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Speaker 1: know Sean McDermott Belichick. That division, there's some real good coaches.

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Speaker 1: I like Flores, sure, but Pete Carroll seventy. I've had

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Speaker 1: don't like their draft picks, especially early. Their schemes appear

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Speaker 1: to be offensively a struggle. Often great defensive coaches don't

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Speaker 1: then Russell Wilson and his team leak. There's four places

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Speaker 1: they want out. That's disruptive if you or John Snyder tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: a veteran who's almost on his way out Atlanta exactly

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Speaker 1: who could be a bridge type of guy. And I

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Speaker 1: think someone's going to get a guy who can be

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Speaker 1: a very very very good pro and Kenny pick I

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Speaker 1: really I've gotten to know him. I've been obviously it's

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Speaker 1: my school. I've been watching him very clearly closely. I

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Speaker 1: know Mark Whipple. I'm gonna really pick his brain about

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Speaker 1: him too. Here in the future, heading up into the draft,

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Speaker 1: the new to see teams wind up valuing people higher

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Speaker 1: than maybe they ultimately would like because of how crucial

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Speaker 1: the position is. And we know him by supplying demand.

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Speaker 1: And that's why. Look, it's funny, you know when we

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Speaker 1: go around and talk to these different coaching staffs, you

437
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Speaker 1: know for Monday night football, and you listen to them

438
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Speaker 1: talk about the dynamics of the quarterback market last year,

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Speaker 1: as far as what people were asking for for a

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Speaker 1: guy like de Shaan Watson, what they were asking for

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Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson, and what the Rams al to pay

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Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford. It's gonna get more like that. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be more like that where teams are going to

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Speaker 1: wind up mortgaging the future because of that phenomenon that

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Speaker 1: Jake Lazer is talking about. I want to know that

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Speaker 1: I can count on something at that position rather than

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Speaker 1: feel like I have no hope, right, And that's what

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna you know, and for every every team

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Speaker 1: that does that, maybe a team will luck up on

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Speaker 1: a guy like like a Taylor Heineke who this year,

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Speaker 1: right now he may lead Washington right to the damn

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Speaker 1: playoffs and win that collision and maybe sitting have them

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Speaker 1: sitting in a spot where they go, Okay, we don't

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Speaker 1: need to go ahead and reach for anybody in this

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Speaker 1: draft if we can find one, great, but maybe we

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Speaker 1: found something here via an avenue that isn't the sexiest,

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Speaker 1: isn't one that's gonna have the fans rushing to the

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Speaker 1: you know, to the ticket sales department and buying up suits.

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Speaker 1: But we're winning games. Yeah, finally you've had opportunities to

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Speaker 1: go to the front office. Years ago, I had this

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Speaker 1: discussion with Trent Dilford and he said, coaching is a

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Speaker 1: miserable life. Minute he goes, I'd rather broadcast, and then

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Speaker 1: he decided he wanted to go into coaching and changed

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Speaker 1: lives and he went to Nashville and he's in the

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Speaker 1: state championship. And you've made a lot of money. You're

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Speaker 1: making a lot of money, and you're experiencing broadcasting. But man,

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Speaker 1: I've been in a war room before. It's freaking cool.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool, Lois, and you could you could potentially

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Speaker 1: run one? Is that itch? I mean, how do you

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Speaker 1: not think of that? Oh? I do? I mean, I'd

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Speaker 1: be lying if I told you I didn't. And ESPN

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Speaker 1: knows that. I mean, they know it, and I've talked

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Speaker 1: to him about it. And that's why, you know, those

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Speaker 1: avenues have been explored like they were last year, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens here in the next amounth

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Speaker 1: or two this year. But it's not I will say this,

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Speaker 1: it's not the same. It doesn't rip me apart the

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Speaker 1: same as it did, and I was in it because

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Speaker 1: of how fortunate I feel with the opportunities that I've

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Speaker 1: been lucky enough to have here at ESPN column. Quite honestly,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting at the at the highest level, doing money like

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Speaker 1: football is different. I mean that's not just broadcasting. That's

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Speaker 1: that's different. I mean some of the things that you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the greats of all time have ever done.

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Speaker 1: So it's and what it's done for my family and all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's I'm so fortunate. I can't I can't

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Speaker 1: even begin to tell you, but I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 1: The being measured by wins and losses, the competing head

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Speaker 1: to head with other front office executives and other teams,

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Speaker 1: being around the players, being involved in the in the

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Speaker 1: strategizing and the developing, and living and dying with the

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Speaker 1: players and the coaches and the support staff. That's something

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Speaker 1: that never leaves you. That's something you can't replace. I

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Speaker 1: don't care what you do. That's why. That's why, quite honestly,

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Speaker 1: the NFL football, it will always win, man, no matter

496
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Speaker 1: how much people complain about this and that about it

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Speaker 1: will always win. It'll always win. And for me, it'll

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Speaker 1: always win. So yeah, right opportunity, right place, and it

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Speaker 1: just matches up. Of course, it's going to be one

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Speaker 1: of those situations where you go, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: to sit down and you have to talk it over

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Speaker 1: with your you know, with your with your decision making circle,

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Speaker 1: talk it over with ESPN, and you go from there.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that my mindset has changed about

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Speaker 1: it since I have left front office work, but the

506
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Speaker 1: fire still burns. Let you know what I look, I

507
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Speaker 1: know for a fact I could do it. I know

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Speaker 1: for a fact. I mean I did it for twelve years.

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Speaker 1: I know what it takes. I've learned so much more

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Speaker 1: being on the outside now, being able to talk to

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Speaker 1: all the different coaches in a different way where I'm

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Speaker 1: really able to pick their brains and talk about team building,

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Speaker 1: staff building, culture building, diving deep into the xs and

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Speaker 1: os and comparing what teams do one another, what teams

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Speaker 1: are doing themselves, how they're taking the game game forward,

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Speaker 1: and you know, advancing it. I am ten times more

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Speaker 1: smart about the game of football where it's headed now

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Speaker 1: than it was than I was in two and twelve

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Speaker 1: when I last was in the front office. Ten times

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Speaker 1: more and I was taught by the very best. Look.

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Speaker 1: I played for the very best at the same time

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Speaker 1: in Bill and Nick, I was around Andy read the

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Speaker 1: very best round Joe Gibbs the very best. But I'm

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Speaker 1: infinitely more prepared now than I would have been had

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Speaker 1: I gotten a GM job coming out of scouting in

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Speaker 1: twenty and twelve. So we'll see what happens. But I'm

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Speaker 1: good either way. Well, you were good with us, Lewis Riddick.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for your success. I really am genuinely happy.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you always, way back

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Speaker 1: in the very beginning, always bringing me on your show.

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Speaker 1: We had great conversations. Man. I hated great convers hate

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Speaker 1: it when you left because I look at every conversation

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Speaker 1: that we had. It was always deep, man. It wasn't

534
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: just surface talk. It is always good stuff, just like

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Speaker 1: this is right here. And I've watched you, man, I

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00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: follow you. You know, I still see everything that you

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Speaker 1: tweet and you and you say on your shows and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy as hell for you. I've always considered you

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Speaker 1: a friend and I appreciate you having me do it well.

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Speaker 1: You're busy, you cut a lot of variables and moving parts,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that you gave us time today. My man,

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Speaker 1: I'll always root for you. Hey, say hi to Brian

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Speaker 1: Greasy and Steve Levy. Levy is so Boston it hurts.

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Speaker 1: He's such a Hey. I told him this. I saw

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Speaker 1: him an elevator two years ago before he got my

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Speaker 1: night football and I'm a USC honk and he was

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Speaker 1: doing USC games and I told him, I said, I'm

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Speaker 1: critical of guys who do USC games. Right, Steve Levy,

549
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: he knew his ship, Lewis, he was buttoned up, man,

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Speaker 1: he knew backup tight ends. I'm like, for a Boston

551
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Speaker 1: guy who loves hockey, I'm like, you're doing great. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really happy for him. I know you guys are

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Speaker 1: happy out there. Then with this, with this new hiring. Man. Look,

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00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm college football buff. I mean I think us see.

555
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: I can still remember seeing Charles White playing the Rose

556
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Speaker 1: Bowl and see that number twelve single bar face mask.

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Speaker 1: I remember. I remember it like it's yesterday. So I'm

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Speaker 1: happy for you guys. I can't wait to see them

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Speaker 1: get back on the map in a real way. All right, man, Thanks,

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Speaker 1: you got it. Thanks calling all right, that's Lewis Riddick

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