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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right or wrong, or guys were tougher,

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Speaker 1: But I'm shocked with how many people get surprised by

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Speaker 1: what were you doing in the off season?

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Speaker 3: You know, you tell me too much.

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Speaker 1: But the Mets traded their backup short stop before they

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Speaker 1: with the decision, the things you do in all season,

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Speaker 1: knowing the health of your people. I've talked to Keith

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Speaker 1: Meister about this. Hey, we take enough pictures, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: find something wrong with everybody, Okay, I'm done, So.

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Speaker 4: I mean we're gonna stay on that.

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Speaker 3: Fuck.

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Speaker 4: You need to be the one that changes this because

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Speaker 4: this is a billion dollar question.

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Speaker 3: This.

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Speaker 4: If teams can figure this out, who cares about draft

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Speaker 3: You figure this out.

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Speaker 4: Should players come into spring training throwing one hundred miles

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Speaker 2: No, there's the progression. You know, you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: You know, I used to not watch guys throw, and

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Speaker 1: And you know, now these people are bringing thirty and

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Speaker 1: And how can you I used to if you had

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Speaker 5: You asked what they're doing in the offseason. They're doing

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Speaker 5: He tried to find something on me and he couldn't,

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Speaker 5: So that's a lie. When he told you you'll find everything,

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Speaker 1: Nobody knew what you want. Keith's great. If I had

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I still do that. Trick works. It works.

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Speaker 1: Well, they copy each other. They think someone's getting ahead.

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Speaker 1: We've we've got so many people trying to build a

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Speaker 8: I'll tell me Mark Cuban buy me a better WiFi.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure he will. Well, you know, not to bring

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Speaker 1: It's the same way with spring training. You know, you

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Speaker 2: How do we handle it?

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Speaker 5: I had all forty seven of them started. They were

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, Tricia.

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Speaker 3: He's so good about that.

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Speaker 8: I take when I show you.

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Speaker 5: Guys have that national championship though, that you paid for

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Speaker 3: Fine.

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Speaker 1: Jealousy is a horrible emotion, so don't don't feel bad

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Speaker 2: They're just jealous.

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Speaker 3: Okay, basketball school book, Florida's a basket, Dia.

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Speaker 2: Hey did you guys? Did you guys ever play on

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Speaker 2: a team that had a captain?

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you about. We

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Speaker 5: Paul can Erica. His name happened so we could resign

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Speaker 5: him in two thousand and six. After we won in

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Speaker 5: two thousand and five, Ozzie's like, he's our captain, but

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Speaker 5: he never wore a C, and I used to make

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Speaker 5: you don't wear a sea Because he got the C

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Speaker 5: that I could get the A for asshole, right.

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Speaker 3: You know in hockey they have the C in the A,

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Speaker 5: Ask right, yes, exactly exactly, So that's yes, I did

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Speaker 5: play on one. But the fact that Stevie Cohen came

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Speaker 3: You think Lindor's hurt by that?

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Speaker 2: Probably down deep, I know that he would, you know,

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Speaker 1: Take on that that and all that entails is uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to ask of players nowadays. You know

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've had I had Maddingly there and

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Speaker 1: everybody knows who that guy is. You have any doubt

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: And that's I think one of the best signings of

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Speaker 1: people that you can trust to do things because their

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Speaker 3: Fuck.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't take the coin toss. They don't go

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Speaker 5: I get it. It's a symbolic thing, right, I get it.

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Speaker 5: But like other than just being like, hey, you're the

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Speaker 1: Well, if we play a double header and I get

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Speaker 3: Okay, not your bench.

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Speaker 1: He's mad too, he went with me. If he's a

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Speaker 8: Wait, but you were talking about a voice. Their voice

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Speaker 6: To people who might not understand, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Think I think it's somebody that players so comfortable bouncing

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Speaker 1: there's they're screwing me here. Oh wait a minute, he

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Speaker 1: Maybe I just got to play better. I used to

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Speaker 1: They never made a player better. I just put one

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear it. People working nine to five,

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Speaker 1: I had too much coffee.

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Speaker 2: I love it buck though.

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Speaker 8: I remember I used to listen to some things like

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Speaker 8: that when players would say things like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 8: and it's just like, I get it, but do you

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Speaker 8: think the nine to five worker wants to hear that.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying some of the complaints aren't legitimate, But

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Speaker 8: I'm like, you have a massage therapist at the field,

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Speaker 8: It's confusing to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I love this question.

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Speaker 1: Communication is communication saying what you want to hear or

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Speaker 2: Big difference.

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Speaker 1: Max Schurzer used to come in and PLoP down and

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Speaker 1: we talk about life and everything. Max like bluntness. I

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Speaker 2: I don't like what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 4: Two situations a team. He brought up about having possibly

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Speaker 4: about Bryce Harper saying, you know, we thought it was

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Speaker 1: For both those situations, Well, you do talk to the

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: And sometimes both parties are right, you know, whether you

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Speaker 1: One of the worst things for a managers you never

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Speaker 2: And uh, that's uncomfortable for a locker room.

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Speaker 1: And no one will say it publicly, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they're glad that the not the problem, but

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Speaker 3: Fuck, has a player ever had a beer under your tutelage?

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Speaker 3: After had?

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Speaker 2: I just went there were a few games I wish

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Hey, my first game is the manager against the Boston

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Speaker 1: Red Sox opening day Cleate Warrior. You ever seen a

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Speaker 1: not that I remember. Steve Fark Jody Reid was a hitter,

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Speaker 5: Well, that's good. There's a lot of games I don't

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Speaker 2: You did you, Hey, let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: You go in the locker rooms and there's some empty

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Speaker 5: They took greenies. They took greenies, and beer kicked him back.

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Speaker 5: And we've talked about a bucket's fine, you can say it.

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Speaker 5: Everyone does, got a big deal.

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Speaker 1: That's when I first knew. I went, wow, there's empty

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. All right.

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Speaker 5: So now you hit the Yankees, and so let me

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Speaker 5: this up and get a better team.

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Speaker 1: Of course he would have, you know he you know,

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Speaker 1: you knew the job description as a manager. You know,

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Speaker 1: That's why I never complained about it. I knew, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was there nineteen years. I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: people come and go. But it doesn't mean make him right,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean Cashman's wrong. I mean the healthier

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Speaker 1: if one. You know, if you ask every manager, what's

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Speaker 1: the one thing you'd like to have when the season started,

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Speaker 1: is the healthier players, you know, staying healthy? And you're

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Speaker 1: what ips, that's what all seasons are for. Okay, what

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Speaker 1: if you know Derek Jeter couldn't play, or what if

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Speaker 1: Lindor got hurt? You know, that's your job as a

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Speaker 1: GM and a manager is to attack the what ifs.

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Speaker 1: And because it's not a normal thing to do your

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Speaker 1: body to play seven days a week for seven or

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Speaker 1: eight months. The last time you were one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: was the day you got out of the car in

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Speaker 1: spring training. And evidently some of them were one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent this room. That's for sure, Peace, I can't believe

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Speaker 1: the teams that are surprised by injuries that, you know,

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Speaker 1: just all of a sudden appear in spring training. You know,

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Speaker 1: I need to prepare for that, George,