WEBVTT - Predictive Programming, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>All Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to It Could Happen here, the podcast that tells

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<v Speaker 2>you what's going to happen before it's happening. I'm Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined with me is Mia Wong Glue. So today we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be talking about predictive programming, something that I assume

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<v Speaker 2>some conspiracy theorist has accused of the show of doing,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically Robert, But we're not gonna talk about us too much. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about the origin of this conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theory and some famous use cases throughout history of how

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<v Speaker 2>you might have been affected by predictive programming the listener.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start by defining our terms here. Predictive programming

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<v Speaker 2>is a conspiracy theory that future events are seeded within

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<v Speaker 2>fictional media like film, TV, video games, and books to

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<v Speaker 2>subliminally influence the public perception of real world events. But

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't simply about movies like just predicting the future.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an intentional method of large scale social conditioning used

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<v Speaker 2>by a conspiracy of deep state government agents and the

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment industry. This term was coined by a conspiracy theorist

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<v Speaker 2>named Alan Watt, different from the like pop Zen writer

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Watts. Different guy. There's a one letter difference. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they share some amount of audience crossover, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are different people. He kind of coined this concept around

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<v Speaker 2>the early two thousands. From what I can tell, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Scottish Canadian conspiracy theorist. Oddly enough, he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>one of the least problematic conspiracy theorists that I've run into,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's openly pushed back on on like anti semitism

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<v Speaker 2>from David Ike and Alex Jones, Like he just seems

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of be a silly guy. He died a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago. From what I can tell, at least

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<v Speaker 2>on like a cursory search, he's like not the most problematic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously still a conspiracy theorist, but like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the token good conspiracy theorists. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but he defined predictive programming as the power of suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>using the media of fiction to create a desired outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>A more expansive definition that he gave is quote, predictive

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<v Speaker 2>programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by

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<v Speaker 2>the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes

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<v Speaker 2>to implemented by the elites. If and when these changes

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<v Speaker 2>are put through the public will already be familiarized with

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<v Speaker 2>them and will accept them as natural progressions, thus lessening

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<v Speaker 2>any possible public resistance and commotion. Predictive programming, therefore may

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<v Speaker 2>be considered a veiled form of preemptive mass manipulation or

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<v Speaker 2>mind control courtesy of our puppet masters. So that's Alan Watt,

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<v Speaker 2>that is that is his definition. Like I said, he

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<v Speaker 2>kind of came up with this idea in the early

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<v Speaker 2>two thousands, and it spread like wildfire throughout his competitors

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<v Speaker 2>and his contemporaries in the conspiratorial milieu. Yeah, it's really recent.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was older than that. Yeah, No, it

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<v Speaker 2>is a new one.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a relatively new conspiracy theory. Like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't go all the way back to like well,

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<v Speaker 2>some of like the rough ideas were kind of used

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<v Speaker 2>by stuff, you know, going all the way back to

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<v Speaker 2>the John Birch Society. But the actual term predictive programming

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<v Speaker 2>and the modern understanding of that term are much more recent.

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<v Speaker 2>An Ohio State University article on the topic said, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>Predictive programming, at its core is a tactic to reduce

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<v Speaker 2>resistance by introducing concepts that seem far fetched and continuously

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<v Speaker 2>reintroducing them to make these concepts appear more likely or

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<v Speaker 2>at the very least acceptable. So that's more of like

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<v Speaker 2>an outside in definition from from researchers. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Alan watch a little bit, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been largely forgotten in the conspiratorial milieu, replaced

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<v Speaker 2>by a whole bunch of more like bombastic and troubling

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<v Speaker 2>figures like Jones and Ike and many many smaller, smaller

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorists. But I listened to what I believe to

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<v Speaker 2>be the first kind of broadcast where where he coined

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<v Speaker 2>this idea as opposed to Alex Jones. Alan Watt is

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<v Speaker 2>like a very like calm speaker, like he's he's actually

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just like pleasant to listen to because he's

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<v Speaker 2>just so like like calm, methodical. He's not like bombastic.

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<v Speaker 2>He just sounds like a regular, like chill guy. His

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<v Speaker 2>his website is amazing. It looks like a nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five website that has never been updated. It is. It

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic. I love that the website has stayed up

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<v Speaker 2>after his death because it is just a joy to

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<v Speaker 2>look at. But Alan Watt describes predictive programming as a

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote ancient science. He thought that quote families of

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<v Speaker 2>actors go back thousands of years. They're a specialized section

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<v Speaker 2>of society that intermarries within their own ranks unquote. So

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<v Speaker 2>like he thinks all actors come from like this one

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<v Speaker 2>large like intergenerational family that have been that have been

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<v Speaker 2>like in the profession of acting, which like is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of true for like the Coppolas, but like, eh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, yes, there's a massive like inepotism problem, but

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<v Speaker 2>like no, yeah, actors art like a single family that

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<v Speaker 2>goes back like millennia. But that is that that is

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<v Speaker 2>one of his beliefs he calls he calls producers magicians.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote they know what messages must be imprinted into the

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<v Speaker 2>minds of the audience, they know the techniques, a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>science unquote. He also talks about how Shakespeare was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in predictive programming. Quote Shakespeare was the magician that brought

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<v Speaker 2>the English language into being unquote. So he said, like

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<v Speaker 2>Shakespeare is like the person who developed like the modern

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<v Speaker 2>the modern English language. Like obviously English like pre dates Shakespeare,

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<v Speaker 2>but like he thinks that through Shakespeare's writing, he was

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<v Speaker 2>able to like popularize the modern form of English, which

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<v Speaker 2>just isn't true, but it's a it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>funny thing to believe. And he thinks all people are

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<v Speaker 2>like literal magicians, like like wizards, like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>like wands, pointy hats, like they're all like doing actual

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<v Speaker 2>like magic. This seems like such a roundabout way of

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<v Speaker 2>doing this, like you can just absolutely magic. So so true,

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<v Speaker 2>so true ya. So, Alan Watt talks about that in

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<v Speaker 2>the late sixties there was a big, weeks long international

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<v Speaker 2>meeting to decide that Hollywood would be the place to

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<v Speaker 2>create the culture of the future. He then discusses how

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<v Speaker 2>like Hollywood controls people through like war movies, and how

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<v Speaker 2>like the DoD helps Hollywood with equipment for war movies,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have to approve the messaging, which like that

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<v Speaker 2>has like a little grain of truth in there, Like yes,

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<v Speaker 2>to use military equipment, you do need to get like

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<v Speaker 2>approval from people in the government. And yeah, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a form of Hollywood that is like just war propaganda

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<v Speaker 2>like that there is there's there's a kernel of truth here,

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<v Speaker 2>but not exactly in the way. Alan Watt talks about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what else has a kernel of truth

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<v Speaker 2>all of these ads, there's one single kernel in all

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<v Speaker 2>of these ads that is revealing a divine truth of existence.

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<v Speaker 2>So watch out and listen for this one kernel of truth. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we are back to talk about Alan Watt and his

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<v Speaker 2>predictive programming idea which has spread through the conspiratorial milieu

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<v Speaker 2>like wildfire. So probably the funniest thing he gets to

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<v Speaker 2>on this whole Hollywood as magician's rant is quote, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the word Hollywood, it means holy wood,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course is the staff of the magi, the

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<v Speaker 2>grand magus of the occult. He waves a wand and

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<v Speaker 2>everything is changed. He casts the spell. So so he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that Hollywood literally refers to like a magic wand,

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<v Speaker 2>like a holy a holywood. He then he then also

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<v Speaker 2>talks about Hollywood as like as like a grove, like

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<v Speaker 2>like Hollywood, like the place is is is a grove

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<v Speaker 2>quote similar to Jewish holy groves and folklore. Moses's staff

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<v Speaker 2>was placed in a grove and that was a special

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<v Speaker 2>place for higher magi to meet. Unquote. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he means this anti semitically, It just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sounds anti Semitic, but he talks about anyway. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>even blame the US of this. So those guy's Canadian

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<v Speaker 2>Scottish Canadian. Yeah, yeah, literally literally me, literally me. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>read one more Alan Watt quote here, which is just

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<v Speaker 2>just a banger. Hollywood is the magician's wand Holy Holly,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been used to hast a spell on the

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<v Speaker 2>unsuspecting public. Things or ideas that would otherwise be seen

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<v Speaker 2>as bizarre, vulgar, undesirable, or impossible are inserted into films

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<v Speaker 2>in the realm of fantasy. When the viewer watches these films,

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<v Speaker 2>his or her mind is left open to suggestion and

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<v Speaker 2>the conditioning process begins. These same movies, which are designed

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<v Speaker 2>to program the average person, can give the discerning viewer

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<v Speaker 2>a better understanding of the workings and the plan of

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<v Speaker 2>the world agenda unquote. So Unlike a lot of modern

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorists who like refuse to watch movies because of

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<v Speaker 2>predicting programming, Alan Watt thinks it's actually useful to watch

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<v Speaker 2>movies because you can get like a future like glimpse

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<v Speaker 2>of what is gonna happen in the world, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like a neat little difference compared to some of his

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<v Speaker 2>modern contemporaries. Yeah you can. You can. You can watch

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<v Speaker 2>Batman realize and occupy Wall Street's happening, yes one year ago, Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>It's predictive programming in the past, in the past, Yeah, yeah, preemptive.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about some examples of predictive programming.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that people often point to when discussing this

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<v Speaker 2>is the television show The Simpsons. Now. A writer and

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<v Speaker 2>producer of The Simpsons from back in the nineties, Bill Oakley,

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<v Speaker 2>gave a statement to Reuters a few years ago about

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<v Speaker 2>the concept of The Simpsons being able to predict real

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<v Speaker 2>world events. Quote. I would say in general, when people

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<v Speaker 2>say The Simpsons has predicted something, it's that we were

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<v Speaker 2>really just satirizing real life events from years before, and

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<v Speaker 2>because history keeps repeating itself, it just seems like we're

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<v Speaker 2>predicting things unquote. So I think is actually a really

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<v Speaker 2>great observation. The show actually hasn't made very many predictions.

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<v Speaker 2>It is often just satirizing actual events from around the

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<v Speaker 2>time of the show's production, and lots of those events

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<v Speaker 2>we've just now forgotten in the present, and similar events

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<v Speaker 2>keep happening in the present, like viruses or Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>running for president just like he did in the two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's easy to kind of see these things as

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<v Speaker 2>predictions when in fact we've just forgotten the events that

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<v Speaker 2>they were a rich satirizing. Now, many of the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of vigral quote unquote predictions you see online associated with

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<v Speaker 2>The Simpsons actually just have a vastly different context within

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and in many cases are actually just altered

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<v Speaker 2>images fan art, photoshops or memes with mislabeled timestamps, or

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<v Speaker 2>genuine images satirizing current events, making it appear as if

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<v Speaker 2>the Simpsons version happened beforehand, when really it was like

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<v Speaker 2>something satirizing an event a month ago, made to look

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<v Speaker 2>like it was actually produced in like two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>seven or something, Right, So it's just a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of manipulated media. One instance of something that appears to

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<v Speaker 2>be an impressive prediction but is actually just showing how

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<v Speaker 2>the creators of the show pay attention to politics is

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<v Speaker 2>the purple suit that President Lisa wears, bearing similarity to

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris's get up on an inauguration day, but purple

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<v Speaker 2>was also worn by Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton during

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<v Speaker 2>previous inauguration days. It's the color of the Suffagette movement,

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<v Speaker 2>and it tends to symbolize unity between red and blue states.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very common thing that women wear at inauguration day,

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<v Speaker 2>so like it's just a good guess. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff like that. Now, probably the most famous

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<v Speaker 2>example of the Simpsons predictive power is probably the nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven poster from the New York episode. Now, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a wealth of eerie nine to eleven imagery from

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<v Speaker 2>years before the attack, either associated with the date itself,

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<v Speaker 2>destruction of the Twin Towers, or in the case of

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<v Speaker 2>the Simpsons, both Now as for the others, nine to

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<v Speaker 2>one one is just a common number in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>so you see a pop up in a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Twin Towers, as well as the Statue of Liberty,

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<v Speaker 2>the Empire State, and the Chrysler Building are all often

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<v Speaker 2>used in like post apocalyptic or like societal collapse destructive artwork.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, there was the bombing at the World Trade

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<v Speaker 2>Center like a decade prior, and it's really easy now

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<v Speaker 2>just to focus on instances of art depicting the Twin Towers. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we have Michael Keaton's The Squeeze from nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>Cookie Monster eating the Twin Towers in nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 2>The Towers disintegrating in the nineteen ninety three Mario movie,

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<v Speaker 2>The Infamous Illuminati Card Game, The Coup's Party music album cover,

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<v Speaker 2>and my personal favorite instance, the pilot episode of the

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<v Speaker 2>X Files of spinoff show The Lone Gunmen, in which

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<v Speaker 2>members of the US government deep State remotely hijack a

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<v Speaker 2>commercial airliner to crash it into the world tranessetter, to

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<v Speaker 2>blame it on terrorists and start a new war in

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East. This episode aired six months before nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven. It is the funniest thing. It's wild, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like specifically being like an X Files a spin off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just gold hilarious stuff. And obviously for another predictive

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<v Speaker 2>programming type thing. In the wake of COVID nineteen, many

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<v Speaker 2>have pointed out that movies like Contagion or even zombie

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<v Speaker 2>media are instances of predictive programming to get the public

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<v Speaker 2>to accept a massive global pandemic, when in most cases

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually just like scientists being like, hey, a pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>could probably be a big problem, and then screenwriters being like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>let's write a movie about a pandemic, right, very easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what else contains very important subliminal messaging?

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<v Speaker 2>Maya cars two? Well, the products and services that support

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. Listen to these to get a glimpse into

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<v Speaker 2>the future. All right, we are back and we are

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<v Speaker 2>joined by Robert Evans to give his thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 2>predictive power of the Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Robert, Hey, you know Garrison. Once upon a time

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<v Speaker 3>I watched the Simpsons episode where Homer decides not to

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<v Speaker 3>go to church instead to stay asleep on Sunday all day,

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<v Speaker 3>and that really kind of predicted me sleeping in this

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<v Speaker 3>morning after getting in on a late night flight last

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<v Speaker 3>night and missing the start of this recording. So the

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<v Speaker 3>power of predictive programming simply cannot be denied. Because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a scene in that where Homer like closes his eyes

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<v Speaker 3>and curls his to and pulls his cover cepo for

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<v Speaker 3>himself when he's avoiding church. That really predicted me at

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<v Speaker 3>about eleven am this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's great. Do you know who else is good

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<v Speaker 2>at predictive programming? Batman? Okay, so we've already talked a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about some of the predictive programming conspiracies based

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<v Speaker 2>on The Dark Knight Rises. In the first segment of

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<v Speaker 2>our Occupy Gotham City episode, you know how the Aurora

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado shooter was a modern MK Ultra victim program to

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<v Speaker 2>distract from the software leaks that'll expose the corrupt elites

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<v Speaker 2>because his father worked on predictive algorithms for the financial sector,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the plot of The Dark Knight Rises. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the plot of the Darkness, not at all. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's not forget that the movie also conditioned us to

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<v Speaker 2>accept a major attack on a big sporting event, something

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<v Speaker 2>which has also not really happened. So I'll actually be

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<v Speaker 2>seeing Clyde Lewis again next week, so I will try

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<v Speaker 2>to get his thoughts on his Dark Nights it Rises

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<v Speaker 2>failed predictions. We'll see, We'll see how. We'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>that goes for me. But those are not the only

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theories around this movie. For the next one, we

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<v Speaker 2>will turn to the King of the Lizard People, David

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<v Speaker 2>ike Ah, there we go. He claims that when the

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<v Speaker 2>GCPD are trying to track down the location of Bain's

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear reactor, there's a shot of a map on which

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<v Speaker 2>there is a location marked as Sandy Hook. And you'll

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<v Speaker 2>never guess what happened after the Dark came out. God

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah so then so yeah, now I've I've I've

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<v Speaker 2>looked into this a decent bit, because yes, there is

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<v Speaker 2>there is a location on the map of Gotham City

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<v Speaker 2>marked Sandy Hook. Now this is probably named after Sandy Hook,

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, just south of New York City, as on

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<v Speaker 2>the Batman map it is, uh, it is an island

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<v Speaker 2>that is just south of Gotham City. In the comics,

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<v Speaker 2>it's called Tri Corner Island for like, the specific map

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<v Speaker 2>of Gotham they used is from like the nineteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's called Tri Corner Island. I think they renamed

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<v Speaker 2>it to Sandy Hook in The Dark Knet rises. So

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<v Speaker 2>a similar map in the movie was used for marketing

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<v Speaker 2>materials that labeled Sandy Hook as a neighborhood in Gotham,

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<v Speaker 2>and this map also contained a neighborhood called the Narrows,

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<v Speaker 2>a common Gotham borough in Batman lore. The Sandy Hook shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>This led schools in Narrows, Virginia to delay their returnive

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<v Speaker 2>students for winter break to install additional security precautions, and

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<v Speaker 2>this was all based on a conspiracy article titled is

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<v Speaker 2>Narrows the site of the next school massacred? Of course

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't, but clear, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>There are Sandy hooks towns named Sandy Hooks in Connecticut, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 3>and Missouri, Yes, Virginia, Wisconsin. Like it's it's there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them. We've made a lot of them. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of places that are sandy and look like

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<v Speaker 3>a hook.

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<v Speaker 2>And the secondary problem with this is that we have

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<v Speaker 2>school shootings in so many places that if you just

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<v Speaker 2>have a map in any movie, there's like a one

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<v Speaker 2>in twelve chance that there's going to be a shooting there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>so great, great society we've built.

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<v Speaker 3>I do kind of wonder is this something that we've

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<v Speaker 3>like inoculated ourselves against by having so many school shootings,

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<v Speaker 3>like because you could never Sandy Hook got so much

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<v Speaker 3>attention because like we didn't have as many shootings back

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<v Speaker 3>then and it was so terrible, and like maybe now

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<v Speaker 3>we move on to because it's like what you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about elements of this, but like people obsessed are still

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed over the Sandy Hook shooting today in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that like, I don't think most mass shooting victims have

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with, like it becoming the center of this

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<v Speaker 3>national mania campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and many pointed out that this, this Batman conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theory is kind of incongruent with other Sandy Hook conspiracy theories,

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<v Speaker 2>being like it's supposed to be a big shocking incident

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<v Speaker 2>to get people to start to start like wanting gun

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<v Speaker 2>control versus why would they try to warn us about it,

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<v Speaker 2>about it happening, if it was, if the point of

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<v Speaker 2>it is to be shocking, like, it doesn't quite make

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<v Speaker 2>sense as most conspiracy theories do. But David Ike said,

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<v Speaker 2>quote the Dark Knight rises is classic Saturn symbolism, and

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<v Speaker 2>Satanists worship Saturn. So there you go. Now, curiously, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know who else lives in Sandy Hook? Suzanne Collins,

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<v Speaker 2>the author of The Hunger Games, which leads us to

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<v Speaker 2>our next topic, the Hunger Games. I found this amazing

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<v Speaker 2>blog called Through Ancient Eyes by this British guy named Neil,

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<v Speaker 2>who's obsessed with the occult and is like a David

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<v Speaker 2>Ike fanboy. This this blog is glorious, So I will

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start by by by reading the The opening opening

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<v Speaker 2>paragraph from this blog quote, don't think for a minute

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<v Speaker 2>that the script for the Hunger Games books is purely fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we have predictive programming at its finest. What I

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<v Speaker 2>saw was the second part of a three part narrative

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<v Speaker 2>that clearly plants ideas of acceptance, sacrifice, and revolution in

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<v Speaker 2>the minds of youth. The books are awash with symbols

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<v Speaker 2>and archetypes that seem to be classic programming devices, and

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<v Speaker 2>more alarmingly, the books seem to project a very viable

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<v Speaker 2>future for not only America, but for the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, he's not entirely wrong. Because of all

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<v Speaker 3>of the pieces of revolutionary literature and nonfiction of that

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<v Speaker 3>have come out during our lifetimes, the Hunger Games has

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<v Speaker 3>inspired a lot more revolutions.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely else, Absolutely, That's why this one is so fun.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because, no, like twenty twenty was, like, a not

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<v Speaker 4>insignificant part of twenty twenty was due to a whole

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of kids growing up with The Hunger Games.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I know people who are still fighting in

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<v Speaker 3>the jungle. So in part because of that book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, So we will get into that in a

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<v Speaker 2>bit now. Neil believes that the country of PanAm is

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<v Speaker 2>quote clearly a reference to both Arcadia and the Greek

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<v Speaker 2>god Pan unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an author who was up late at night looking

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<v Speaker 3>for country names and remember it in an old airline

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<v Speaker 3>like that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What was going on. The region of Arcadia was home

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<v Speaker 2>to pan and characterized by a vast wilderness with its

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<v Speaker 2>lavish parties for the god of the wild and his nymphs. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hunger Game's capital is an urban forest of the gods.

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<v Speaker 2>In its classic symbolic reversal of the true meaning, it

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<v Speaker 2>becomes a city dedicated to all that would be the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite of true freedom unquote. Now Neil loves symbolic reversal.

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<v Speaker 2>How you will see something depicted that is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like being against tautalitarian governments. This is actually symbolic reversal

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<v Speaker 2>where it's actually pro authoritarian governments. Because this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is how he talks about the entire the entirety of

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<v Speaker 2>the movie and how it's actually trying to like seed

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<v Speaker 2>acceptance for a one world order, a military police estate

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<v Speaker 2>similar to David Ike. Neil also notes the Saturnian symbolism

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<v Speaker 2>with the goat imagery of the astral signed Capricorn, linking

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<v Speaker 2>to pan as well as the composite representation of the

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<v Speaker 2>devil image Baphomet. Now I'm not a planetary magic guy

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<v Speaker 2>in general, but Saturn is often linked to like the harvest, destruction, chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a whole thing. But Neil says, quote both

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<v Speaker 2>Capricorn and Aquarius are ruled by Saturn and it's hidden

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<v Speaker 2>vibrationality effect on the powers that be banking, law, education. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>PanAm is the ultimate Saturn city of the future. PanAm

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<v Speaker 2>is very much the typical totalitarian future, not Sea Lake City.

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<v Speaker 2>It is also where that links to pandemonium in the

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<v Speaker 2>form of a pandemic. Is the Hunger Games preparing the

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<v Speaker 2>youth of today for some kind of tyrannical future born

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<v Speaker 2>out of the events of the next decade that will

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<v Speaker 2>lead to global pandemonium, which is unfortunately a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>prediction coming from like coming from like the early twenty tens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of were talking about a pandemic that leads

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<v Speaker 2>to global unrest repelling against a tyrannical future. So pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good analysis by Neil there. Now, Neil also notes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, curious linkages between the segregated twelve districts of PanAm,

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<v Speaker 2>just as our perception of time is governed by twelve

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<v Speaker 2>hours and months. Oh my god. He breaks down PanAm

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<v Speaker 2>even further, claiming that the letter E and the letter

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<v Speaker 2>M are like numerology references, the E linking to the

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<v Speaker 2>intel and Saturn like explorer logos, and Neil says quote

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<v Speaker 2>according to some researchers, which is a great way to

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<v Speaker 2>start a sentence. According to some researchers, the letter E

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<v Speaker 2>is a very important letter number because it represents the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth essence or element, the power of trends. No as

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<v Speaker 2>the Jermatria stortage. Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. He goes all

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<v Speaker 2>out on the letter M. The letter m's a very

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<v Speaker 2>important letter in the mystery schools of antiquity, uh huh,

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<v Speaker 2>being the numerology equivalent of thirteen. This of course relates

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<v Speaker 2>to the thirteen original districts, or the twelve secretors around

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<v Speaker 2>the one capitol. Oh yeah, sure, there are of course

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<v Speaker 2>twelve jurors and one judge. The M or the thirteenth letter,

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<v Speaker 2>is the master with twelve disciples, and esoterically speaking, thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>is the experiencer of the twelve signs of the zodiac.

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<v Speaker 2>There are twelve months in the Gregorian sun calendar and

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen months in the lunar calendar. There were thirteen districts,

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<v Speaker 2>but now only twelve remains. There were thirteen colonies. The

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<v Speaker 2>US is Satanism, So true, so true. Mia.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of talk about how like kids can't

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<v Speaker 3>read anymore because how we fucked up like reading education,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, around like the early aughts and shit, and

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<v Speaker 3>like some the damage that that's done. But this is

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<v Speaker 3>showing that, Like you've got a bunch of boomers who

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<v Speaker 3>are going through these books, who are reading them very carefully,

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<v Speaker 3>who are googling every word in them to see if

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<v Speaker 3>there's different things. Yeah, and they catch all of this,

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<v Speaker 3>like put all this weird maniaction together, But they don't

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<v Speaker 3>just get that, like, yeah, if you tell kids a

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<v Speaker 3>simple story about another young person overthrowing a tyrannical government,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they'll burn down their capital building. Absolutely, it's happened before,

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<v Speaker 3>and it'll happen again.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil gets obsessed with all these little, tiny, tiny rabbit

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<v Speaker 2>holes that are ultimately meaningless, and like misses the very

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<v Speaker 2>glaring obvious thing right before his eyes. He says, numbers

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<v Speaker 2>and letters are vibrational codes that affect the subconscious. The

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<v Speaker 2>more I look at Saturn symbolism, the more I see

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<v Speaker 2>a thought form, waveform, or a vibrational pattern that permeates

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<v Speaker 2>the collective thinking of humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you miss the obvious and more like there's all

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<v Speaker 3>this obsession with like numerology, and it's like, well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>A big part of why the Hunger Games caught on

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<v Speaker 3>to people and was like so easy to like meme

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<v Speaker 3>and spread as part of these revolutionary actions is they

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<v Speaker 3>had like a thing, a hand thing that you did.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a little salute and like kids could do

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<v Speaker 3>it to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Neil is not a fan of the salute,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, Well that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he's got some fascinating opinions on that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he sure does, and we will hear his extremely

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating opinions on the three finger salute, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>other Hunger Games conspiracies and new upcoming predictive programming conspiracies

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<v Speaker 2>based around the Civil War movie in the next episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So stay tuned tomorrow for even more exciting news on

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