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Elizabeth Holmes, let's go ahead and 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: put this up there on the screen, and she's found 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: her latest grift, which is grifting off the Me Too movement, 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: saying that the founder of blood testing startup plans to 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: defend herself at federal fraud trial by arguing that her 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, who was an executive of the company, emotionally 24 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: and sexually abused her, according to legal filing. So this 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: is all pretty incredible, Crystal, because anybody who has read 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Bad Blood by uh I forget his name, actually John wow, 27 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Anyway, Anybody who has read that 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: book about inside of what was happening inside Therahnose knows 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: that her boyfriend at the time, Rameshed Sonny Balwani. Sonny 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: is how he has known, was directly in cahoots with her, 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: but that he was the chief executive overseeing a lot 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: of the fraud, not only of her own employees, pitching 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: it to customers, which ultimately, you know, resulted in many 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: people getting faulty blood work and making bad decisions and 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: in some cases adverse decisions around their health. That is 36 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: ultimately her crime. It's not just about the fact that 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: she defrauded a bunch of millionaires here on the East 38 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: Coast in order to buy her own bs. Actual people 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: were harmed by this product. That's actually always the one 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: that gets me, and so she is trying to use 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, the sympathetic like, oh, he emotionally abused me. 42 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it sounds like she emotionally abused most 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: of her staff and anybody who was there allegedly, by 44 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the way, for her lawyers, she allegedly abused most of 45 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: her staff who worked for her, and many of whom 46 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: were so guilty over realizing that their product didn't work, 47 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: tried to speak out to the media and more. And 48 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: ultimately this is the price that she, in my opinion 49 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: again for her lawyers, deserves to pay being guilty in 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: this case. But it's just in you know, the classic development. 51 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: She has always tried to play the woman card, both 52 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: in terms of pushing her fraud in the first place 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: and now doing it whenever it comes to her actual defenser. 54 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: That is very true. It's very consistent with her behavior 55 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: this entire time to now lean into a defense of 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: like me too, made me do it. Some of the 57 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: details here, And by the way, it's John Kerry Rue 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: John carry name that you were looking for. So she's 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: not going to present an insanity defense, according to her 60 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: lawyer's new documents. Instead, Holmes's legal team approach. She'll be 61 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: demonstrating a defense of a mental condition bearing on guilt 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: that was the result of partner abuse and that impacted 63 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: her state of mind at the time of the alleged crimes. Yeah, 64 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: she from the beginning leaned into her status as like 65 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: female tech lean in or so she was. That's why 66 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: she was able to raise so much money. I mean, 67 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: the luminaries who associated themselves with this just utter fraud. 68 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: The list is a mile long. And as you said, 69 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: you know what she did is they were giving fake 70 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: tests and fake results to people who were actually relying 71 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: on these things. The level of fraud and grift here 72 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: was completely insane. And yes, there are many many reports 73 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: of her being incredibly abusive to the staff and all 74 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: around her. So let's be clear that by alleged alleged alleged, 75 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Let's be clear that this was her baby, Okay, this 76 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: was her company that she started. The behavior in the 77 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: pattern is consistent throughout. So the idea that like me 78 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: too made me do it is insane. And also, look, 79 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: there are all kinds of psychological circumstances happening with people. 80 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because of the traumatic childhood or whatever circumstance 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: surrounding their life that leads ultimately to the end result 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: of crimes being committed. But if she is able to 83 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: get a reduced sentence or get off because of this dynamic, 84 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 1: I mean, what incredible. It'll be incredible another demonstration of 85 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: a failure of a lead, accountability, of a two tier 86 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: justice system that anyone would even entertain this. Imagine someone 87 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: who wasn't wealthy, someone who wasn't white, trying to put 88 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: this in front of the court. They'd laugh amount of 89 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: the laugh amount of the room. We're going to have 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: a chance. She's likely to take the stand and testify 91 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: herself at her trial, so we'll be interesting to see 92 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: exactly what she I hope the audio comes out of 93 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: that because I want to see if that voice is 94 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: still as deep as it was. Yeah, that was part 95 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: of what was reported, is the way that she intentionally 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: deepened her voice and she'd wear it was like those 97 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: turtlenecks in imitation of Steve Jobs, right. I mean, all 98 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: of it was about she was much more focused on 99 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: creating this like brand around herself self than she was 100 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: ever on actually having a product, like a real company 101 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: that would deservective and provide people with the test results 102 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: that they need to make informed decisions about their health 103 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: and looking forward to it. I know John Kerry you 104 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: actually I saw he just released two new episodes on 105 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: like the Bad Blood. I think it's a new podcast. 106 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go do that. I encourage you 107 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: guys to go. Yeah, all the documentaries and everything incredible. 108 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: It's really good, definitely worth watching. All right, guys, we'll 109 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: have more for you later. Hey. So remember how we 110 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: told you how awesome premium membership was. Well, here we 111 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: are again to remind you that becoming a premium member 112 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: means you don't have to listen to our constant please 113 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: for you to subscribe. 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So 117 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: part of the story, part of what was revealed from 118 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: Letitia James's report about his sexual harassment those allegations is 119 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: the number of elites here in DC who protected this 120 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: guy and not just any elites, elites from supposed social 121 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: justice and civil rights organizations like the head of Human 122 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Rights Campaign and like Times Up, which is an organization 123 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: which is supposed to be dedicated to victims of me 124 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: too and sexual harassment and sexual assault. So the latest 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: development is that Tina Chen, whose Times president and CEO 126 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: has now resigned. Washington Post got their hands actually on 127 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: text messages between Tina Chen and ROBERTA. Kaplan and others 128 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: in the group telling them to stand down on providing 129 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: any sort of support to Lindsey Boylin, who's one of 130 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: Cuomo's accusers and who also is one of the women 131 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: who was completely smeared by Cuomo and those around him. 132 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: The head of HRC Human Rights Campaign also was involved 133 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and some of the behavior I think they handed over 134 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: confidential personnel files about Lindsay Boylan that Cuomo could then 135 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: use in smearing her. So Time's Up also complicit here 136 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: in helping to allow these allegations about Lindsay Boylan to 137 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: come out from Cuomo and to not support her, which 138 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: is supposedly the whole mission of the organization. So in 139 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: all of this you see what they were really about, 140 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: which is, when it's convenient, they'll support women, and they 141 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: also will stand as an organization that can protect elite 142 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: Democrats when any allegations come out against them, So they 143 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: get to be the gatekeepers. They get to decide whose 144 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: allegations count. Does Tara Reid's allegation count, for example, No, 145 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: it did not count. Does Lindsay Boylan's allegation against Andrew 146 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Cuomo count? No, that did not count. And whose allegations 147 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: actually merit being heard and being taken seriously. It's just amazing. 148 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: And just so you guys know her background because I 149 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: thought this was hilarious, which is that she is former 150 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Michelle Obaisma's chief of staff and she was the head 151 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: of the Women's and Girls Initiative under the White House 152 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: under Barack Obama. So that's who Tina Shechen was, and 153 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: she was totally had zero accountability for what happened here. 154 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: She resigned basically because of the bottom of up outrage 155 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: within that and the public outrage over what she was doing. 156 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: But you can see clearly that she did not have 157 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: a lot of remorse. You know, hours before that she 158 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: even resigned, she was on a podcast on a panel 159 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: discussion in which she was questioned and she just said, 160 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: we need to have a responsible way that does not 161 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: lead survivors to question us or feel as though we 162 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: have betrayed them. That was hours before, so she really 163 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: wasn't taking any accountability and refused to talk about what 164 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: her own actions were in covering up all of this. 165 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: And it just reveals them for the frauds that they are, 166 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: which is that they don't actually care about women. They 167 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: were just talking about protecting elite Democrats and worse, raising 168 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: a lot of money for themselves. That's actually the worst part, 169 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: which is that a lot of people got you know, 170 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: on these organizations and more. And yeah, she may have resigned, 171 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: but I'm sure she'll be resurrected soon. So Hillary Rosen, 172 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Roberta Kaplan, Tina Chen, these are all very high level 173 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: Democratic operatives, donors and strategists. Okay, you do not get 174 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: any more connected than these three women within the Democratic Party. 175 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: So the idea that they were going to set up 176 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: a neutral organization, non political organization that was just going 177 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: to support women, going to help women tell their stories, 178 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: going to assist them. The Legal Defense Fund is supposed 179 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: to help them with funds for lawyers so they can 180 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: actually take their claims to a court of law. No, 181 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: this was all about gatekeeping. This is all about deciding 182 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: who gets hurt and who doesn't. If it's convenient for us, 183 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: if it serves our political interest, then yes, I always 184 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: support you. And here's the funds, and let's Elvis tell 185 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: your story to the media. Let's get you out there. 186 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: If it's inconvenient for us. If it's against Joe Biden 187 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: or Andrew Cuomer, who knows what other Democrats have had 188 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,479 Speaker 1: allegations against them that they decided weren't worthy of consideration, 189 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: well then they can stop you from getting that attention 190 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: and that support and that those funds to take your 191 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: claims ultimately to a court of law. So it just 192 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: reveals what this organization was actually about, and it was 193 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: always it appears primarily about serving a partisan function and 194 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: making sure that this new whole me too thing didn't 195 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: ultimately come back and buy Democrats, which is actually just 196 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: sad because you know, it is a noble cause, but 197 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: watching it get hijacked by these corporate people is really gross, 198 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: and turning it into a partisan one is even worse. Yes, 199 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: exactly right, All right, guys, we'll have more for you later. Wow, 200 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: you guys must really like listening to our voices. 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He's 210 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: business representative at the Auto Mechanics Local seven zero one. 211 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: Great to have you, Ronnie. Good to see you, Ronnie, 212 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: good morning, Thanks for having me. Just give us an update. 213 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: How long has the strike been going on and what 214 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: are your concerns. The strike started August second, Monday morning 215 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: at the Open Up business for the car dealerships. We 216 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: had a membership meeting on the thirty on the first 217 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: to vote the final offer given by the NCDC, and 218 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: at that time the offer was rejected by ninety seven 219 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: percent by our membership, followed up by a strike vote 220 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: that passed within ninety nine percent approval from the membership. 221 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: So the major sticking points currently are the NCDC has 222 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: proposed language one article is the most Favored Nations language, 223 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: and that basically gives the ability to the NCDC to 224 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: cherry pick provisions out of other automobile, mechanic or automotive contracts, 225 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: any policies or provisions that they feel beneficial to them, 226 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: and they would be effective immediately, not giving the union 227 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: any ability to bargain on them. The membership and the 228 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: union are very opposed to that because we feel that 229 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: each company and negotiations and agreement have their own set 230 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: of circumstances and nobody has the right to reach into 231 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: somebody else's contract. The second issue is the lack of 232 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: funding to our health and welfare. The trustees have put 233 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: forth a set rate for what they need to keep 234 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: our Health and Welfare fundgoing and the NCDC fails to 235 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: meet that rate. And thirdly, we are rejecting a provision 236 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: that will reduce the journeyman's base pay guarantee. When they 237 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: come in for forty hours a week, they get a 238 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: base rate that you know, if the work is slow 239 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: or productivity is down for whatever reason, whether it's due 240 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: to their control or not, that the management would give 241 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: would have the ability to reduce that base pay and 242 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: we're just we're against that also, So just tell us 243 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Ronnie about not you know, obviously the specifics of the 244 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: contract's really important. You guys have been on strike now 245 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: for quite some time. Like, how are you guys doing 246 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: in terms of that? Do you guys see any progress 247 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: towards getting what you want from management for the deal? Yes, 248 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: it's this is our fifth week just started, and you know, 249 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: I've been out to the strike lines on a regular 250 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: basis and the morale is really high. The membership knows 251 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: why they're out there, and they're dedicated to the cause 252 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: that they want to have a good language or a 253 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: good contract to work under, and they will not stand 254 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: for a substandard contract. So they know what it takes. 255 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, they had a seven and a half 256 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: week strike that ultimately led to a acceptable contract that 257 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: they passed. And so this group has the ability and 258 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: knows what it takes to stay out for a strike 259 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: to get an acceptable contract. One of the things I 260 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: read in the news reports was that there was a 261 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: defector's group that somehow factors into this. But I couldn't 262 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: quite understand how this all works. Could you just explain 263 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: that piece to me. In the NCDC started with roughly 264 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty dealerships, and towards the end of 265 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: that strike, the dealerships just left the NCDC to take 266 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: an agreement that they felt was acceptable to both the 267 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: dealerships and the members. So coming into this set of 268 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: negotiations in twenty twenty one, that group of people created 269 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: their own new association which was named the Defectors, and 270 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: that they bargained their own deal and they never went 271 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: on strike. That group was roughly about thirty dealerships, and 272 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: that group has grown to over seventy dealerships now and 273 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: they are in the majority. The NCDC, I believe is 274 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: it came into this negotiations at fifty six dealerships and 275 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: are now far below that number as people are once 276 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: again defecting. So one of the things that I think 277 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: is important for people to understand, Ronnie, because so much 278 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: of America has sort of lost touch with the labor 279 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: movement and what it means, the language of it, the 280 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: language of strikes, what this is all about. If you 281 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: all weren't unionized, what sort of power would you have 282 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: in this situation to get the deal? That you deserve. 283 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't think any because if if you don't have 284 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: a union to represent you, then you don't have a 285 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: seat at the table to negotiate the terms of the contract. 286 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: And so what are the dealerships doing right now? Are 287 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: people getting their cars fixed? Or are they using scab labor? 288 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: How are they sort of coping with this situation? There 289 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: is mainly there are no certified union mechanics inside any 290 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: of the shops that are currently picketing. I've heard of 291 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: service writers and managers changing oil just to try and 292 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: get a couple of customers taken care of, but ultimately 293 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: there are no certified union mechanics doing work on the 294 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: other side of the strike lines. Got it? What can 295 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: our audience do to support you, guys? And what kind 296 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: of community support have you gotten? Ronnie? Community support has 297 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 1: been abundant the uh you know, Chicago is a very 298 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: union dense area, and the other unions police officers, firefighters, teachers. 299 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: Sorry if I left anybody out, I know there's been 300 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people, construction trades, electricians, plumbers, different 301 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: unions have come out and dropped off water, dropped off food, 302 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: dropped off donuts and coffee and all type of material 303 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: support to help the guys and girls out there on 304 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: the strike line. And we really appreciate that type of support. 305 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: And you know, honk as you go by wave. If 306 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: you're an actual customer to the dealership, write a letter 307 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: to the dealership and say that you know, giving acceptable 308 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: terms to our mechanics is something that you desire as 309 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: a customer. Right Well, I know we have a lot 310 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: of people watching from Chicago, so thank you for bringing 311 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: us all up to speed. It's really important and we 312 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: support you, guys. Thank you, thank you for covering our story. 313 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: One more thing, I promise. Just wanted to make sure 314 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: you knew about my podcast with Kyle Kolinski. It's called Crystal, 315 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Kyle and Friends, where we do long form interviews with 316 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: people like Nom Chomsky, Cornell West, and Glenn Greenwald. You 317 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: can listen on podcast platform or you can subscribe over 318 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: on substack to get the video a day early. We're 319 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: going to stop bugging you now. Enjoy. Okay, guys, we 320 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that you had something on Labor 321 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Day and that is frankly, in my view, very good story. 322 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Although there's some mixed reactions to it. Let's put it 323 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: up there on the screen, which is that breaking news 324 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: that happened over the weekend. Purdue Pharmaceuticals is going to 325 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: be dissolved and the Sackler family is going to have 326 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: to pay four point five billion dollars to settle opioid claims. 327 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: So that ruling in bankruptcy court, this is it. It's over. 328 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: It caps the long legal battle over the company itself, 329 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: who feeled the opioid epidemic knowingly in some cases, and 330 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: the family that owns it, the Sackler family, who of 331 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: course try to buy their way into respectable company by 332 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: funding the Met Museum and a lot of other different places. 333 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: This is very important for two reasons. Number one, yes, 334 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: they have paid four point five billion dollars. They will 335 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: pay it in installments over roughly nine years. Those payments 336 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: and the profits of a new drug from the company 337 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: will go towards addiction treatment and prevention treatment across the country. 338 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: That is a good thing. That being said at the 339 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: end of the day, and the judge in the case 340 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: itself pointed this out. He said, quote this is a 341 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: bitter result, bitter explaining that so much Sackler money was 342 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: parked offshore, in accounts, he said he expected and had 343 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: wished for a higher settlement. And what that points to 344 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: is both the culpability of the Sackler family itself of 345 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: the fact that they tried to use all of their 346 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: political connections in order to get off as free as 347 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: they possibly could. Here and Marshall, I don't think there's 348 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: any illusion that they will remain billionaires after this is done. 349 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: That their company that they formed, yes, it has been dissolved, 350 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: but they still profited. And ultimately, while they did, while 351 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: they did have to admit some culpability in fueling the 352 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: opioid crisis and the deaths of quite literally hundreds of 353 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: thousands of people here in the United States, that they 354 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: are going to get They are definitely going to get 355 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: away with this. And the point I want to get 356 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts on, in particular is where a lot of 357 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: people are upset. Let's put this next screen to tear 358 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: sheet up on the screen that they will now have 359 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: immunity from remaining lawsuits. So part of the deal here 360 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: was okay, we pay four and a half billion, and 361 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: now nobody can sue us in perpetuity over this. This 362 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: is it. It's over, it's settled. There's not a lot 363 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: of closure for some of the victims here. Some people 364 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: feel that the penalty should have been much higher. What 365 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: do you think. Yeah, there's two different tensions here. One 366 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: is I don't think we're a sadomasochistic country. There is enough, 367 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: There is the point where things are enough. But for 368 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: most people, And we got so much feedback on this 369 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: on Reddit, on Twitter, it's this is creed not it right? 370 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: If they're still billionaires, then they had weren't screaming onqual yet. 371 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: This isn't about like some notion of like mercy or 372 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: stoppage being opposed to to it. It's just this is 373 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: there's still billionaires and given the stock market, I mean, 374 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: they could just park money different places get back within 375 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: a generation. So it's it's that real factor here. It 376 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: feels if this wasn't enough, and if I think if 377 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: immunity had come at a point where they were actually 378 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: broken as a unit, that would feel more fair for 379 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: people because you know, losing forty to forty five percent 380 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: of your fortune, what does that? What does that mean? Like? 381 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: And yes, like it's true that actually answer this for me, 382 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: like where where does their reputation stand as a family? 383 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: So I know everyone caught them trying to buy back 384 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: their reputation, but are they going to have all the 385 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: monuments taken down? Are the names going to go down? Oh? Well, 386 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: so I know I think the met did remove their 387 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: name from them, but again that's there. But you know, 388 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: in terms of the look, it doesn't take that long. 389 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: You have billions of dollars. There are people out there, 390 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: and they'll take it. Ten years from now, they'll probably 391 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: take it, And that I think is part of that. 392 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody will change their name and then it's over right, 393 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: and who the hell cares what the check is. Whenever 394 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about some art or orchestra, philanthropy or whatever. 395 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: I think they'll probably buy their way back in New 396 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: York polite society within like you said, a generation, that's 397 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: all it really takes for these people. And I do 398 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: want to underscore that this immunity part was a key 399 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: thing in this Sackler's settlement. So we had covered previously 400 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Crystal and I their push for immunity, David Sackler and 401 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of the threats that he was making, and it's 402 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: been pretty clear now for over a month that they 403 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: were going to get it, and I think that Really 404 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: what we have to do is just channel with the 405 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: judge said, he's like, you people are parking your money off. 406 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Sure settlement should have been much higher. Also, Marshall, they 407 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: have nine years to pay it. Okay, it's not like 408 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: they had a wire transfer it all right now, nine 409 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: whole years. So what are they going to do in 410 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: the interim. They can actually hold that money, just put 411 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: it in the stock market, off the prints, off the 412 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: dividends from that alone. They could live like kings for years, right. 413 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: So really, what it is is that they got away 414 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: with basically murder. And look, I know it's a controversial statement, 415 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: but everything that has come out from how this company 416 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: conducted itself, from knowingly pushing these types of drugs, from 417 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: not only knowingly but covering up the evidence of addiction, 418 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: of pushing it even when they knew in order to 419 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: make money, of manipulating the medical system. That is as 420 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: bad as it gets in terms of their behavior as 421 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: a company. And you shouldn't be able to get away 422 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: with this. And it's like what you're saying, I think 423 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: people will probably be fine if they were you know, 424 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: ten billion, right. It's like what happened with oj where 425 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: they were like, for the rest of your life, you 426 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: have to pay whatever which sport. By the way, on 427 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: that one, clear, so we're gonna we're very clear. Yeah, 428 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: allegedly for OJ's lawyers. Okay, so all of that being said, 429 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: this is clearly no justice. And I think that is 430 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: the part that really, you know, it really makes me mad, 431 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: which is there are a lot of people who are 432 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: dead and whose families were ruined because think about how 433 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: many well meaning people had back pain and the doctor 434 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: prescribed them opens and then two years later is strung 435 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: out on black tar heroin. Like, that's a direct responsibility, 436 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: that's a direct response to the behavior of this company. Yeah. 437 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I just want to quickly preview tomorrow's Realignment episode because 438 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: it speaks direct to this. We have Ben Mezrick. He 439 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: is the author of the anti social network Bitcoin Billionaire 440 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: is the book that inspired social network. He made this 441 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: really interesting point about why people, especially in game stocks, 442 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: have deep hatred towards financial leads. It's that it doesn't 443 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: seem like there's any actual serious financial consequence to failure, 444 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: right in the sense that if you're a homeowner who 445 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: got behind your mortgage payments after two thousand and eight, 446 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: like you're done, and maybe all you always fifty thousand dollars, 447 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: you're wrecked over that amount. But if you're a billionaire 448 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: family that didn't just screw up in terms of housing 449 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: but literally kill people, you lose like thirty percent of 450 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: your fortune, and then that's sort of inconvenient. And yeah, 451 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna want to change your daughter's last things 452 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: so you can get into the proper grammar school, but 453 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: it's never actually a real consequence. And then it's just 454 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: really this gap in money that it's just it's just crazy, 455 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: and we get into it, of course, yeah, no, it 456 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: really is. It's travesty. We'll continue to follow this story, guys, 457 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: but unfortunately I think this might be the end to it. 458 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: And you guys should check out that GameStop episode with 459 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: Ben Mezrick on the Realignment. Really really enjoyed it. Okay, 460 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: all right, we will see you all tomorrow. Thanks for 461 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: listening to the show, guys, We really appreciate it. To 462 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: help other people find the show, go ahead and leave 463 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: us a five star rating on Apple Podcasts or wherever 464 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Really helps other people find the 465 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: show as always special. 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