WEBVTT - Andrew Whitworth: Hollywood couldn't script it better

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Players Second Acts Podcast. I'm Peanut Tuman and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my guy, my uncle Roman Harper with us today.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? What up? Hump? I'm doing good man. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we are a Southern family because anytime the uncle is

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<v Speaker 1>younger than the nephew, it's it's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>unique situation. So I always think that of us when

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<v Speaker 1>we see each other. And I feel good because our

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<v Speaker 1>guest today shares a little bit of something with me

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<v Speaker 1>in common. Not only did he play in the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also a silver Fox himself, So I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of proud of that, and we both rocket proudly and

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<v Speaker 1>uniquely and beautifully as well. So before we jump into

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<v Speaker 1>it and you introduced our our guests today, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to your podcast. So, pe Nut, with all due respect,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, my man, go ahead and kick us off

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<v Speaker 1>with this one. So let me list these accolades of this,

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<v Speaker 1>uh twenty of me. It's a lot, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Roman numerals. But he won the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl when he was in LA. He's a two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty one Walter Peyton Man of the year, four

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<v Speaker 1>time pro bowler. Won the two thousand and three BCS

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<v Speaker 1>Natural Championship with LSU drafted by the Bengals and O

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<v Speaker 1>six in the second round. Retired from the Rams in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and twenty one. Ken y'all, please show some

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<v Speaker 1>love for Andrew with worm we sol fallas. Appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate that. Well, let's go ahead, let's talk about those

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<v Speaker 1>accolades and then we'll ball. Okay, So you won three

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<v Speaker 1>back to back, took of your off and then won

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<v Speaker 1>it again. You won three national chair excuse me, three

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<v Speaker 1>high school championships in football, right, yep? Do y'all get

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<v Speaker 1>y'all got rings in Louisiana? Oh yeah, we got rings. Okay, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Monroe's real, Doug like where he's at. They played some

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<v Speaker 1>real ball. It's a lot of guys that they put out.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want a state championship in tennis? No, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a great question. Though, so it's actually a fantastic story.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at LSU and you know, you're going through

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<v Speaker 1>the process of sports directors like hey, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>like keep pubbing you up or how well you're playing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna try and get you on the All American team,

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<v Speaker 1>get national attention. So let's name some things you've done,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, before you got here. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, I want a high school sta attention. Football.

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<v Speaker 1>I won the five A state championship in powerlifting in

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<v Speaker 1>the heavyweight class, so like we're naming that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he's like any other things you want as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>like baseball and did you go the World Series or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I did you know? We went

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<v Speaker 1>to the state title game in baseball when I was

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and I won like a tennis deal when I

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<v Speaker 1>was eleven or ten, So that starts that year. This

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<v Speaker 1>is like my sophomore year in college. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the draft, like I'm going with scouts

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, man, so what year was it that

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<v Speaker 1>you won the high school championship in tests? I'm like, what, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I won like the local like you get a little

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<v Speaker 1>Caesar slice a pizza if you're the one that beats

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<v Speaker 1>the other kid camp in tennis, Like I can't win

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<v Speaker 1>anything that that care is a trophy. So it's carried

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<v Speaker 1>on throughout my career. I always get asked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hilarious because it literally came from like a

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<v Speaker 1>two minute conversation of stuff you've done as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has lived its own life throughout my career. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>just go win it, Just go win it. Just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just like the white, three hundred pound

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<v Speaker 1>male version of Serena and Venus combined, Like that's that

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<v Speaker 1>is who I am. Like, I'm just I'm not real.

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<v Speaker 1>We were literally talking before. I'm like, how's he running

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<v Speaker 1>around dominating people at close to three hundred pounds. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't imagine it. I'm like, how does this even possible?

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<v Speaker 1>I can play tennis, but I ain't like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you that I'm a lefty. I grew up being

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<v Speaker 1>an andre Agasy fan. I had me a wild thing

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<v Speaker 1>racket when I was little. But you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of the game. But no, I was

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<v Speaker 1>never good enough to win in high school, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Pickleballs my sport. There we go. See I'm a golfer,

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<v Speaker 1>though you know he is a golfer. Now most people

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<v Speaker 1>do not know this. I don't even know if if

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<v Speaker 1>wit remembers this, but the first time I met Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Whitworth was at in Arizona. We were both selected to

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<v Speaker 1>be Playboy All Americans going into our senior year in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, and that was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I met this large human being. And I just randomly

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<v Speaker 1>was walking around the whole place and he was out

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<v Speaker 1>at the driving range, hitting bombs on the driving range.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's the first one that really got me to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I should maybe start to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>golf a little bit. And I hung out with him

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually got really cool at that point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>talking way back when we both were seniors in college.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I know he can golf, I know he

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<v Speaker 1>can do all these other things. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 1>awesome that you were able to accomplish that. So also

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<v Speaker 1>you were also a Playball All American as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five great classes. You know, just want

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<v Speaker 1>to shout us all out out there. And sure, now

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start off with this just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit because I'm sitting here with two of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that won one of the biggest accolades that I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL gives out, which is the Walter Paydon Man

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year award. And you know, we see that

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<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of recognition the longer you played.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, man, we really loved this guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you more and more, and we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to give you your flowers before you retired. And could

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about how special that award is because I

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<v Speaker 1>know Peanut was also a person that won the Walter

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<v Speaker 1>Payd Man of the Year you also wanted. I did not,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted many other accolades, but that one alone,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a special deal. Could you maybe just give

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit insight into that. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think when you when you think about that award and

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<v Speaker 1>what it stands for, it was even tough to go

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<v Speaker 1>through the process of being nominated for it and then

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<v Speaker 1>be up for it, because it's kind of hard to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know what, Like I mean, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged this and it's great and I think it's wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking across the league at the other thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one nominees and I'm like, wow, like so much respect

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<v Speaker 1>for everything they do, and it almost every year I

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<v Speaker 1>got nominated, it was like man invigorated and be like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I love I love the guys that I

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<v Speaker 1>played a sport with man and their passion for people,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's one thing I just to me, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>life's all about. And so going through that really, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was more of a reflection and a reminiscent of

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<v Speaker 1>over my career just the impacts of people and communities

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<v Speaker 1>and the special moments I've had of realizing not only

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<v Speaker 1>just the impact that I was able to have on them,

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<v Speaker 1>but more importantly to me, the impact they had on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it gave me a you know, a passion

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<v Speaker 1>and a purpose to play football, not just for sports,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for you know, success i'd want to have

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, but you know what, it created opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go impact people off of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's one of the things I'm most

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for the opportunity to play in the NFL for

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<v Speaker 1>is I've had some really cool opportunities and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of growth as me as a person, and standing up

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<v Speaker 1>there on that stage as y'all know, I mean offensive linement.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. My my level of media experience leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to that moment was like the local registry. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>college kid who's got a tape recorder. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get a lot of press conferences and podium so

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<v Speaker 1>I was a pretty nervous when I walked up there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you what, after I watched the video

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<v Speaker 1>and just thought about the moment and where I was,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, man, I'm just I'm just gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>a story about you know, what I think so impactful

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<v Speaker 1>to me and what I think so important in life.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a really special moment for me and

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<v Speaker 1>my family for sure. Okay, so it was very it

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<v Speaker 1>was I think it was. It was very natural. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the story that you told. I think people could resonate

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<v Speaker 1>with with that. And again, congratulations, It's it's one of my,

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<v Speaker 1>if not my greatest accomplishment while playing, you know, winning

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<v Speaker 1>that award it means it definitely means a lot, especially

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<v Speaker 1>being in Chicago, being from Chicago. Yeah, at a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit sweeter. Yeah, yeah, I think I think even looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my situation and like I thought it was, what

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<v Speaker 1>was really cool was in that little couple of minutes

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<v Speaker 1>they give you, you're telling this story about Derek Barnes,

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<v Speaker 1>and really how cool that interaction was. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>what was hard to paint the picture of it is

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<v Speaker 1>like I think people walked away from it like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>this impact you had on Derek Barnes, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>like I wanted to make sure people understood it was

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<v Speaker 1>the impact he had on me as well. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie in the NFL. I was in the Midwest,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere I had never been. I was lonely, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who the heck I'm going to be as

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<v Speaker 1>a person. And this young six seven eight year old

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<v Speaker 1>kid was my buddy that like we hung out and

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<v Speaker 1>threw the football and shield as a person girls club

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, like he was as much there for me

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<v Speaker 1>as anything I was there for him. So that happened

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<v Speaker 1>in my last year before I retired. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was just such a cool story to tell because it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great moment in my career that it's like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>think back to who you were sixteen years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>where are you at and where you stand right now. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the people that you impact on the day to day. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know. You just never know. You can influence

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<v Speaker 1>who's watching you, and that's really the true definition of

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<v Speaker 1>character is And so you got that award literally your

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<v Speaker 1>last year playing. And so at what point in your

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<v Speaker 1>NFL career did you ever begin flirting with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of retiring. I mean, you played sixteen years, so you

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<v Speaker 1>had a long time to think about this. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. You know, it's like, do you count the

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<v Speaker 1>years that it seemed like every sports reporter is like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to put it in your head that you probably

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<v Speaker 1>should retire, or it's like you've entered the age just

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<v Speaker 1>like I can remember at some point it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not bringing this up, y'all are bringing this up like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you know, is this it? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the last years? You know, it's like they'd ask you

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<v Speaker 1>those questions and you'd go through those seasons where you'd

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<v Speaker 1>ponder it, and then a lot of the times I

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<v Speaker 1>would think about, hey, you know what, like did I

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<v Speaker 1>come up with this idea? Is this more like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>because you've reached a certain age or because you're at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain experience level. That's just the narrative people want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about and so I think for me, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just continuing to be like, you know what, do

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good? Do I feel like I sell the

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<v Speaker 1>passion to play this game? And then at some point

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<v Speaker 1>it became at my age because I was an older

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<v Speaker 1>player coming into the league, it was like, man, the mentorship,

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<v Speaker 1>the brotherhood and my little brothers. You know, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them called me uncle. A couple at the end

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<v Speaker 1>called me grandpa, which is really offensive, but the gray,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like you guys have yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it started to be like, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what the impact I get to have with these guys

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<v Speaker 1>every years so much fun too, Like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm chasing playing because I just love the bond. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the brotherhood. I love being able to be there

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<v Speaker 1>for a guy when he has his first kid, or

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting married, or he wants to know about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this next lifestep he's going through with his mom or

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<v Speaker 1>his family or whatever, and so those kind of moments

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<v Speaker 1>or things I remember almost as much as anything I

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<v Speaker 1>did on the field. Yeah that's cool. So after retiring,

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<v Speaker 1>you got into broadcasting run away, I was that was

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<v Speaker 1>something that I did as well, you know, I retired

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<v Speaker 1>I took like, I don't know, maybe the off season,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months off, and then I started to

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<v Speaker 1>I got into broadcasting right away. And Rome and I

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this often where when Roman hired, he

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<v Speaker 1>took exactly three hundred and sixty five days off of

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<v Speaker 1>doing nothing. I'm just hanging out, kids, fam just whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to do a lot of shopping, time with

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<v Speaker 1>the wife, you during the day. Yeah, we did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that. We did a lot of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, if I could go back and do

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<v Speaker 1>it again, I probably would have took a year off

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<v Speaker 1>and just did nothing, because that's probably the one I

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<v Speaker 1>probably said that was probably my big mistake. It is

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<v Speaker 1>just taking a year off and not doing nothing, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get right back into just doing something right after retiring.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question to you is, what have your experience

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<v Speaker 1>has been like just getting right into football just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, getting right into broadcasting having no time off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it was my first year was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty crazy to have like now kind of sit here

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy a little bit of being retired. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>nice out. The season's over and I'm kind of sitting still,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I remember being at some point in like

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<v Speaker 1>October November, like I'm having a blast doing this, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is fun traveling. But I'm like, man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what's happened the last six months, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea where it's gone or what happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was gonna have all this time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I just go from one thing to the

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<v Speaker 1>other every second. And I tell people this all the

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<v Speaker 1>time too, And I'm sure you guys feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>You forget too. Football was kind of your excuse to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of things too, like hey, like why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you come to this? Ah? You know what? Actually, like

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta practice or I got OTAs or I got whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you have no excuse to say no. You

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<v Speaker 1>better know the word no, because if you don't, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be busy all the time because they're like, now

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<v Speaker 1>you're not playing no more, so you can come to

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<v Speaker 1>this event or you can come to this thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, man, crap, I don't have an excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think my year got pretty crazy. It did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was agreeing to anything and everything is like I'm retired.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go play in you know, Larry Fitzgild's

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<v Speaker 1>golf tournament or I want to go play in this

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<v Speaker 1>And then before I knew it, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here Monday, they're Thursday, this place Sunday, Like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what did I get myself into? But no, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>getting into the broadcast part, I think is probably the

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<v Speaker 1>most enjoyable part of everything. It's it's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. I would say that in coaching my kids'

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<v Speaker 1>sports has been the two things that like have been

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute blast. And my wife's enjoyed it too, just

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<v Speaker 1>to get to have me around so much. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's that part's been really fun. All Right. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>what sports are you kids playing? And then number two,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to kind of take me through some

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<v Speaker 1>of the challenges. You know, you talked about you you

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't do any big media press conferences. You're old linons,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not getting a whole bunch of cameras in your

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<v Speaker 1>face week after and so now you're I mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>a prime time You're right there on Thursday night football

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<v Speaker 1>is you're right there with Amazon. It's a great path.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great crew too. I really enjoy you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>And is it safe to say that you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a trailblazer. You are. You're not the only one because

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Thomas was up there too, So you two guys

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<v Speaker 1>are leading the way for you big guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>tit television screen right now. Yeah, I tell you all.

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<v Speaker 1>For the kids. Uh, you know, we're a little bit everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the boys probably play almost all the three majors.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, basketball, football, baseball. They're doing all that. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had one to mess around a little bit wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to play some golf, but he didn't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes suping too much, so you know, they play those.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter Sarah is a volleyball player. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get her on the basketball court. She's tall and lean

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<v Speaker 1>and but she enjoys volleyball right now. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>youngest daughter, Catherine, who's eight, uh, just started basketball, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about her. She's having a blast. That's guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was always my favorite sport growing up and something

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<v Speaker 1>I still did when I played. I kept the court.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I had a little half court at my

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<v Speaker 1>house and had a little you know, your little old

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<v Speaker 1>men leagues. You know. I had specific rules though at

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<v Speaker 1>my size because the general guys didn't like me down

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<v Speaker 1>the paint, so I had to I had to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside, but uh, out in the paint. And

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<v Speaker 1>see that's the guy that I don't like. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>why the big guy always trying to bring the ball up?

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<v Speaker 1>You take your shirt off the time, just dunking, dribbling.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, yeah, I'd have been just shirt off, sweat dripping,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been get bagging it up, getting in Oh my,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, y'all, I'd have been guy hated to play again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they hated me there, you know, doubt about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, so that that part was fun. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the you know, being on Thursday night

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<v Speaker 1>football and really the challenges, I think it has been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. And I think for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think of it that way. Like it's an offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have a lot of voice in the league

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to like press conferences and media stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why it's so cool to see right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Kelsey, you know, Joe Thomas, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've had O'Hare, you had some guys that you know

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<v Speaker 1>have been out there. But it's like get to see

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<v Speaker 1>those guys really spreading out who they are. Taylor Lawan, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys, it's like regardless of like their personalities

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<v Speaker 1>and who you like and don't like actually having a

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<v Speaker 1>personality and showing it. Because I think in the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line room especially and you guys know this, you've played

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<v Speaker 1>long enough, like that was kind of always a room

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like be quiet, do your job, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of how the they were taught, Like you brought

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<v Speaker 1>in young Lineman, it's like don't say a word, don't speak,

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<v Speaker 1>just block, you know, like that kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing now that there's a little bit of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys showing who they really are and having a personality

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about what they enjoy and they're passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>I love being on the side of not being the

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<v Speaker 1>trail blazer but changing that narrative and for all those

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<v Speaker 1>guys because you trouble. Yeah, so I enjoy that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But it's funny, like even when you go

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<v Speaker 1>through these meetings, like I met with agents to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about media, right, they would say stuff that I just

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<v Speaker 1>get so fired, Like they'd be like, well, somebody can

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<v Speaker 1>hire you, and like you could talk about on an

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<v Speaker 1>alignment and I'm like, bro, Like, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all understand when football, like offensive linemen have to know

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<v Speaker 1>so much more than how to block somebody that to

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<v Speaker 1>even be good at what they do. So like to

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<v Speaker 1>think that that was even the what your own agent

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<v Speaker 1>might think. It's like, oh, man, you could talk about

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<v Speaker 1>alignment blocking people, and I'm like, bro, I can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about anything in this game, you know, you know, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to be an intelligent guy to

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<v Speaker 1>play that position and also have a great concept of

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<v Speaker 1>the game and how it moves and motions and coverages

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<v Speaker 1>and how they rotate, and like to understand how to

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<v Speaker 1>pick all those things up. You better know how the

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<v Speaker 1>defense dances. Yeah, And so I gotta know how the

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<v Speaker 1>offense what our plan is, and I gotta know what

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<v Speaker 1>the defense how they're gonna dance to it, and and

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<v Speaker 1>so you know that you can watch tape and understand

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<v Speaker 1>those things from a Figger complex in just your job.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been fun to have a chance to do

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<v Speaker 1>that and get to do it with Sherman Fitz and

0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Tony and Charissa, all people who are just such special

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<v Speaker 1>personalities in their in their own right, it's been a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you that the biggest surprise to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know i'd love it and have so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had an absolute blast doing it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing about it. So I didn't really watch

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of football when I played. I didn't watch

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night football, Sunday night football because we sit in

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting room all day in a dark room, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just watched the wide angle of plays all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I retired, I watched more football than I

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<v Speaker 1>ever have in my life. Wish I didn't think I

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<v Speaker 1>would do. So being retired, do you do do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel more connected to the game just because you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the analyst thing or do you just did you think

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't going to be watching that much football after

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<v Speaker 1>being retired? Peter, I gotta tell you, I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>same boat. I don't know if I watched a single

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<v Speaker 1>game when I played, Like, I don't think I were

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<v Speaker 1>you serious, I didn't have to do with my was

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<v Speaker 1>more and who I was just playing? I do it

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<v Speaker 1>too much. Yeah, I wasn't watching it, And now I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's like a like I can't not watch

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<v Speaker 1>every single guy like, bro, I gotta see every game

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<v Speaker 1>every snap, Like leave me alone, like get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the room, like I'm watching everything. It's crazy, like I

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<v Speaker 1>even got to the point this past season and why

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<v Speaker 1>I really like realized how much shit changed for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the rams of INI like hey, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you come to this game or be cool coming this

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<v Speaker 1>game where I talked to Sean or Stafford or something,

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, you're gonna come this weekend, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I might miss one of the games

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<v Speaker 1>like on the East Coast or something, So I actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna sit at home, but I watch,

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<v Speaker 1>Like but I'm gonna watch all the games. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go nowhere on Sunday because I was like, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see every game, every snap. I want to watch it all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. So your first training camp that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>report to after you retired, I know mine was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was for me. It was weird because I was like, Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm normally running, I'm in shape, I'm lifting, I'm running,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get everything right. You know, I packed

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<v Speaker 1>my bag, I'm gone for two yeks. What was that like?

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Not going towards trening camp after sixteen season? Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you miss it? Was? It? Was? It? Like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I just something was off. I was that I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I played up until the meter read empty. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I when I got done and walked

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<v Speaker 1>off that field after the Super Bowl, m I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like that was everything I had left. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of that may be because in my career

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<v Speaker 1>I was really blessed with like being very very healthy

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part. I mean things, but nothing that

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you'd say are and this is gonna hinder your career.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the last really like two years of my career,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the torn PCL at MCL, I had come

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<v Speaker 1>back from. I had a presignificant need deal that went

0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.439
<v Speaker 1>on a hip injury. So it was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of getting to be grueling to show up

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<v Speaker 1>every day and go through this. And I was I

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<v Speaker 1>really like from a body standpoint of feeling good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to play, I felt fine, but it started to be

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating to just get Sunday to Sunday. And I started

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.439
<v Speaker 1>losing the fun of that chase of like chasing my

0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 1>job all the time. And so that's I really kind

0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 1>of knew that was it at the conversation with Melissa,

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<v Speaker 1>like we knew, you know what, this is the last ride,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see how it ends. So for me, I was

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like in a pretty good spot, but I really knew it.

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Like the second week at training camp, I go out

0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>to the rams their practices down here in Cali, and

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, I'm gonna show up the first

0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>day of pads and I'm like, you know what, when

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.359
<v Speaker 1>once they do the acclimation stuff they're going in pads,

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna show up. And I really know when I

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>go to this practice. I show up at practice, I

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>bet I lasted twelve minutes. Like I was sitting out

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>there and I was like, you know what, like I

0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>go hit some golf balls right now, like I'm good,

0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm out of here. I literally like I was like,

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.119
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna say that lows to the

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:41.920
<v Speaker 1>people on your say hello too, and then I'm getting

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.040
<v Speaker 1>out of here, Like I don't even want to sit

0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.640
<v Speaker 1>here and watch it like much less practice it. So

0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I literally pieced out like twenty minutes into the practice,

0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and I knew then, like that's it, Like you're done,

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.359
<v Speaker 1>You're ready to just talk about this game and how

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>much has changed your life and the passion you always

0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>will have for it. But playing it is over with.

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Does your body feel now? How do your knees feel?

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I always ask big guys that question. I feel pretty good.

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously there's things like I'm not sitting out

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:08.840
<v Speaker 1>here trying to go do a bunch of single legs

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>squats or something for a bunch of reps and heavy weight.

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>But I feel great, Like if you put a bar

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:17.119
<v Speaker 1>on my back, I'd be ready to go and squat

0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.679
<v Speaker 1>and do everything else. I feel good. I work out consistently.

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that helped me play at that age.

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:22.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't play at forty if you're not

0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty active, is that I had really adapted a lifestyle

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>like That's who I was, like every day even to

0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 1>this day, Like this morning at five am, I'm in

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.280
<v Speaker 1>mym Fred Sauda. At six am, I did you know,

0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the yoga with my instructor, you know. And then on Monday, Wednesday, Friday,

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I trained with my trainer and work out like I

0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>just go. That's kind of who I am. I'll always

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 1>be that way, whether I'm playing or not. I mean,

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>my schedule doesn't change much from that aspect because I

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.879
<v Speaker 1>just love training, not because I'm training for something. And

0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>so you know, for me, it's like I feel pretty

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>good because I'm still really active. I try to be

0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 1>really cautious of conscious of like, hey, these are the

0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.200
<v Speaker 1>things I need to do now to kind of unwind

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.119
<v Speaker 1>some of the things I did when I played. So

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not lifting a bunch of weight, but I'm moving,

0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, and trying to stay that way. So so

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>with number one, I mean, that's the best way to

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 1>do it is to just continue to take care of yourself.

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It's also going to help you initially too. It's gonna

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>keep you mentally strong. I think that's what working out

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 1>for me. That's what's kind of helped me prolongs. It

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>just keeps me mentally all there. That's like the one

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>thing when I get out of whack, it's like, dude,

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I need to go hit the gym and just release.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing I saw on your Twitter you talked

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.719
<v Speaker 1>about it about being in a dark place. You had

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.920
<v Speaker 1>seen all the tweet from Byron Jones, and you commented

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.919
<v Speaker 1>on it and you talked about how thanks for the

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>great dialogue. How everybody's responding about how they're feeling, their

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.720
<v Speaker 1>feelings on how their bodies feel, and other people doing

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 1>other jobs and how they say they're in pain and

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 1>all these other things. You were just wondering, like was

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I normal? You know, I was playing at forty something

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 1>years old. I got aches and pains. And is it

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 1>from football strictly or is everybody at this age have

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.399
<v Speaker 1>certain aches and pains. We all hear about it from

0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>normal people as well. And I really enjoy your dialogue,

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:02.639
<v Speaker 1>and not only that, but your responses to some of

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the Twitter mentions and everybody else that responded to those

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>things as well. I thought the open dialogue of communication

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.160
<v Speaker 1>was huge. That you know, so often in this world,

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>especially football players, we're talking you gotta be tough, you

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta be this, and all of a sudden, when we're

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden take that armor off and we

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>actually open up about these things we don't feel. So,

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, strength is in the weakness. Right when you're

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 1>at your weakest, sometimes that could be your strongest because

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not alone when you see other people going through

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those similar things. I would like to

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe you tell me, like what took you to that

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>place where you started bringing that up, and also like,

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 1>what did you learn from that experience of really just

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, leaving your emotions all out there on Twitter

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>and getting it out there. Yeah, I think when you

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about the game and the passion it

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.199
<v Speaker 1>takes the player throughout my last probably I always call

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>it my last five years, probably six years when I

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>really when I was in my thirties, mid thirties, thirty

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>four thirty five, I really did sit there and be like,

0:23:58.080 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, I mean, how many homeboys I got back

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.199
<v Speaker 1>that like are dealing with something or like you know,

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I remember so on so head shoulders surgery

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and fell on a basketball court or whatever it was.

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'd be like, man, I'm not the only person

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>out here that's like dealing with something where I'm in

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>this dark place where I don't know if I can

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.120
<v Speaker 1>get my body back to Let's put some perspective on it.

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Playing the most elite game in the world, like like,

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that you can't like function as a

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>person in society, right, but in your mind it's the

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>only thing that matters, And so you go to these

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>dark places because you're like, man, I can't dunk a

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>basketball anymore, Like at some point that I became a reality,

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like I can't it hurts Stephen try to dunk a

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>basketball right like, but like I could still live a

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>normal life. It's just my perspective is I'm comparing it

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to playing NFL football, which is the highest or the

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>highest level. And so I genuinely asked the question because

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>that's literally what I thought about when I played, Like,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>is there other people out there that feel like this?

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 1>That work jobs where you got a strain a lot?

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Obviously there's not a lot of people that work in

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>a office every day that have significant injuries, but might

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>have daily things if they're not taking care of their body.

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So to hear people's perspective on that, and part of

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>it was like it wasn't about whether I agreed or

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>disagreed with, you know how, Like the feeling is that

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe other players have about that and about their body

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and about their experience in the NFL. It's that there's

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>different points of view from all of us in all

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>walks of life. And I don't care what we're talking about.

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>We can talk about, you know, religion, racism, we can

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about injuries. We took all these things like everyone's

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>viewpoint is their viewpoint and just being okay with like

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>some people are gonna come with a little steam when

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you bring up a subject, and some people are gonna

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>hit you with kindness, like but everyone's like they're due

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>there how they feel. But let's just talk through a

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>little bit of how it is you feel, Like I

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>want to know why you feel that way or what

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.719
<v Speaker 1>you actually are experiencing. And I feel like for me,

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:51.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like at first you have to do that, and

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like the first people think like, oh, you're mocking somebody,

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>or you're trying to go after somebody, or this is

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a take, you know as they call it. And it's like,

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>now I'm just trying to talk, Like y'all want to talk,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to talk, you know, that's the people

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do that though, more though, that's people.

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>People don't know how to communicate. People don't know how

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to talk. It is this we we're on our phones, right,

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>so this is this is what people know. This is

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like the new standard. Nobody knows how to communicate. Nobody.

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>If I do communicate what you with, I'm going to

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>text you and then the text message that you get

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you read it a certain kind of way and it's

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>like you took a finish to it. And I'm like, wait, no,

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you're interpreting my texting as a drawn rather than just

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.640
<v Speaker 1>picking up the damn phone and just say, hey, this

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>is what I meant to say, this is who I am.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>And then you can tell by the I don't know

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>the way my voice carries it, like you know, if

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm mad, happy, sad, whatever. Yeah, I try to tell

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>my kids that all man. Hey, look I tell this

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>all the time. My wife and I had this conversation

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>one time, just about open dialogue, and she's like we're

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about something we fought over and I'm like laughing

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're making fun of each other, and I'm like, hey, babe,

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I just said like we were down to like half

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a car in the milk. And she was like, yeah,

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>but I heard you say you're a bad mother you

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't put milk in the fridge for the kids. And

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I just I just said we

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>need to get a new carton, like I said, but

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>how it is right? Yeah, all I said was when

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 1>needs some fresh milk, that's it. Like you just no, no,

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you call me a bad mom, like, well, no, didn't

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's like those things can happen that way,

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>even sometimes when it's clear communication. And so I just

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>from me, I've always taken the thing like I can't

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>be on this this platform if I can't handle criticism

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and I can't handle compliments and I can't run with

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 1>it one way or another, like you know. And so

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's like, if I can stay calm and

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>just have dialogue, then I can be on here. If

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it can't be like that, then it's not worth my

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>time because my emotions being controlled by something that can

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 1>be misread and misunderstood is wild to me, Like that

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't make sense. So I just wanted to have

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a conversation about it and see how people feel. And

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>also I just hope for him, like you know, I

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>feel wherever he is and he's at with all of that, man,

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>just make sure you reach out and keep some perspective

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 1>of really the blessings you have had in the game,

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 1>the toughness that is the reality that we sign up for.

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's parts of it that you know, what

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the NFL could always do better, and there's no doubt

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>about that. I mean I think we all can agree

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>on that there's policies that every at every level that

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>they could be better with, but we also sign up

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>for the job, and so I think for me, it's

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just making sure you keep a little perspective in life

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and what things are like and what everyone else goes through. Yeah,

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>And so just all that being said, Bro, I think

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing I got out of especially you responded

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>to all those comments, was that vulnerability is strength number

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>one when you when you're able to open up and share.

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>And I hope Byron Jones here's that as well, because

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>his Vulnabi allows you to have the strength and courage

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to reach out as well and just like talk about it.

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>And so that's huge for me. And then I got

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to get on my soapbox for a minute because I

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>tell my wife all the time with I'm just like you, Bro,

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look, you can't read them motions through text,

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>so like I'm just asking the question here, Like I

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>ain't saying nothing about you being a bad mom. I

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>ain't said none of that, Like words matter, Like I

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.479
<v Speaker 1>didn't say none of that, like, and so I said this,

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you said what you heard, which is not

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>what I said, So all right, I'm off my soapbox.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>That's why I say just pick up the phone or

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>just physically talk to that person because you won't have

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the wrong interpretation. That's really what I was just don't

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>even started with come talk to I started with now like, hey,

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you what I'm not saying, and then

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get to what I am saying. That's that's

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>what I started with. Now, somebody need to use that one.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>That's funny. So I'm not in a dark place because

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm forty two and I can still dunk a basketball.

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just gonna throw it out there, right,

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm I got down in forty two vertically, don't trying

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to dunk on my kids eight and a half of

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a gold just like yesterday and my daughter pushed me

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and I missed that joke. I felt so bad. I'm like, bro,

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't even get a half sprike commercial right? Commercial

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>act was that it was bad? Yeah, so um for

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the most part, when nobody really retires when they want to,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like football retires you. We talked to a Golik about

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>this at Super Bowl and he said, I didn't retire

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>football the NFL retired me. I didn't choose to retire.

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I kind of didn't really want to retire. When I retired,

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I turned at ACL at thirty thirty four. Room. You

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>were still playing, you were still doing things, um but

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you you were a little bit different though. Like you

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you had this Hollywood storybook ending oldest man in the

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>league or oldest lineman in the league, won Walter Payton

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Man of the Year. You win the Super Bowl, then

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you choose to retire. My question is, had you not

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl, would you have retired? You know?

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>In twenty eighteen, I kind of faced that similar situation

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>when we lost to the Patriots, and in the sense

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that people kept asking me, will you retired, And that

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>was really a moment where I was like, I don't.

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I never even thought about retiring. I mean,

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to chase it. I mean, I think Jared.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I actually saw Jared Golf a couple of weeks ago,

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and we were telling that story when we landed from Atlanta,

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>lost in the Super Bowl on Sunday, fly home the

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>next day as a team landing from Atlanta, and just

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>who I was and how I just love to push

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>myself in the crazy ways. I put my headset on

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and put on my music, and as soon as we

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>pulled up to the facility on our team bus, like

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I started walking doing a look a little walk jog

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>around the field like because I was like day one

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>starts right now. We already had a long season, Like

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna keep playing at my age, I gotta

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>get moving. And so the guys are getting in their

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>cars like ending the season, and I'm out there running

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>on the field and it's like that's what my mentality was.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>But this one was totally different. When I walked into

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Week one against the Arizona Cardinals of the playoffs, I

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>had already know this is it, this is the last ride.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, you know, remember what a blessing

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>has been to play this game. It's not a burden,

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>because at times sometimes it can feel that way, but

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a blessing to play this game. And so

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I took that attitude and I'll never forget calling it

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>up for that game and we were going to walk

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>out the tunnel, and you know, there were things I

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say. There's things you want to talk about

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.719
<v Speaker 1>when it's football season. To be fired up. But there

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>are things I want to make sure my guy's heard.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And it was one that this game, you know what,

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>has blessed and changed a lot of our lives. And

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>remember that. And then also remember you are in the

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>most elite percentile in the world. Man. So anybody that

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>tells you anything you can't do, that's living. We broke

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it down to and we walked up that tunnel. Anybody

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>tells you anything you can't do in life, and I

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>don't care what it is on this field or off

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of it. Every single one of you or special men

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and special people, and that's why you're standing where you are.

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget us breaking it down to that. And

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>it was just a purpose, like this is the last run.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I know how playoff gadens go. When you lose them,

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody scatters. I want you, guys to make sure you

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>know I love you and that you are special. And

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>don't you let anybody ever tell you anything different. Yeah,

0:32:58.000 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a man's live or what is false to make of it?

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Another great quote about Peter Huttilman man,

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I love no um wit man. Clearly you are a

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>great leader and you grew into those leadership roles as

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you continue to play more, get more reps, and uh,

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>clearly as the oldest lineman in the league at the end,

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you're definitely a great leader. And you told a story

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>about about Derek Barnes about how you impacted this life.

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I read another story about when you were Joe Burrow

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>were rehabbing in the offseason how you guys became great

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>buddies as well. I mean, like hold on, they were

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>hanging out on each other's birthdays. I mean, it's gotta

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>be nice. And so at what point in your career

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>did you begin to develop these leadership skills or qualities

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and when did you start to notice that, you know what,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, I am becoming this leader because you don't. Actually,

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure most people don't try and aim to be

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the leader. It just kind of falls upon you. No,

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I think some people you don't. You do it naturally though.

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's natural point and you can hell yeah, yeah.

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, I realized at a younger age,

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>probably when I got into college and then write my

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>first couple of years in the league, that I had

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a special ability to pull people in one direction or

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the other. And I realized that just naturally who I was,

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I was a magnet, and so if I wanted to

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>go the wrong way, I could take people that way,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and if I want to go the right way, I could.

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>And I needed to make a conscious decision of who

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>it is I wanted to be. And so I think

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>at some point, like after I met Melissa and we

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 1>really kind of hit it off, or people who were

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>wound in the same way mentally of what we want

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to do in life and what's important to us. I

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>knew who I wanted to be in the sense of

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>not becoming a leader, but I knew the man I

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be. And as I always have told every

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys that I've had a chance to

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>be in the locker room with its, regardless of the

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>title that football gives you or platform it gives you,

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>you're a man before you're anything else, and you need

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to decide who that is. And so that's where we start.

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>And so for me, it's always been about I'm gonna

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>do one Like Peanut, you can teach what you know,

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>but you'll only ever reproduce who you are. And so

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>for me, it was like, I'm not gonna talk to

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>guys about leadership or talk to them about why I'm

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a leader. I'm gonna show them who I am and

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the ones that want that in their life will follow.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, if they see it and they

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>believe it and they trust you, I think that, Like

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>we just talked about vulnerability and trust, that happens at

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>different times for everybody. Yeah, you know, and men and

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>women you know are around you enough, they like eventually

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>they put their guard down and say, you know what

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you're You're somebody showing me that you're trustable and that

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll truly like have good intentions. And so I think

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>for me, it was just continuing to work on who

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I am and be the best version of who I

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>can be, and if people want to follow that and

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>they ask for help or they want my leadership, I'll

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>be there for them. And I've always said, leadership to

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>me is about the ability to want people to stand

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>side by side with you and walk through a door

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like they like, I don't know what's on the other

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>side of the door, but this is the dude, I

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>want to walk through the door. And so I don't

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>need them to command me. I don't need them to

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>tell me how to do things. I want to stand

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>right beside them, and I think to me that like

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the inagability to be able to do that is special

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm never taking that for granted. Strengthens for service,

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>not status, And I try to use my platform to

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>help people, and considering what happened to my daughter back

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and oh wait, with a heart transplant, I'm always trying

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to help somebody out and just be kind, show true

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>kindness to people. And it's helped me tremendously to help

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>people that I don't know. That's probably like one of

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the greatest joys in life is helping someone you don't

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>know and not really wanting anything in return. Now, you

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and your family are the true living testament of what

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that is. Helping out people and then loving yourself as

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>your neighbor. What are you trying to convey and show

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>your kids just with the kind of man and the

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of wife that you have. What's what's that message

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that you're trying to show your kids. I think for us,

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>it's you know what, you know, you're gonna fail, you're

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna mess up, you're gonna have bad days. But I

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 1>call it constant daily pursuit and the reason I say

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that is that it's one thing to pursue something daily,

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>but to constantly choose to pursue it daily to me

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>as a difference. So I call it every day. I'm

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>on a constant, daily pursuit of a better version of myself.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And then that accept my failures, accept my successes, and

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the next morning I wake up the same way, with

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the same process to find a better version. And I

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>think for us, it's about everything starts at our dinner table.

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>And my kids will know to love people regardless of

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>where they come from, what they look like, what they

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>expect from them. They'll love them because they love them,

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not because of anything else. And they're gonna want to

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>make a difference because that's gonna be a passion of theirs.

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And so we try to make sure that anything we do,

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>even if they can't participate, they come and they see

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it and they have a visualization of it. And you know,

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I've walked skid row with the kids, you know, and

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I've walked you know, many different places where it's like,

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I want you to see that people don't live the

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>same way you live. And you've been very blessed, and

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to understand that at times that's gonna

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>be a burden for you because you're not gonna have

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the grit and the toughness that other people have had

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to strive through. So you're gonna have to be aware

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of it, and you're gonna have to acknowledge it and

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>be willing to accept it and come from a place

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of like, you know what, that is who I am

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and I did grow up this way. But how can

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I be a part of a solution? How can I

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>be a part of helping people and always being willing

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to be in that mindset. I think that's the thing

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been most proud of. And people say, what's your

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>proudest thing for me? Right now, it's my kid's hearts

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>for other people. Some of the biggest things we've done

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>in LA, whether it be with homelessness or different things,

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>where actually ideas that my kids came up with and

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>things they wanted to do, and I just trying to

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>found a way to put them into action. And so

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that to me is where it's really important. Is I

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>want my kids to understand we need to have those

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>conversations at our dinner table, and you need to feel

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>open and free to ask anything you want to ask,

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and if it's a tough combo, it'll be a tough combo.

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But I want you to have a full transparency on

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>what life's all about. And um, you know what. To me,

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>that'll be my proudest moment if they, you know, grow

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>up to be the kind of people that they hope

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to be, and that obviously about you know, their mother

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and I hope they'll be. It's it gets better when

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>they get older. I have a seventeen year old and

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>we remember taking her on our college trip to Howard.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully I want her to go to Howard, but it's

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>wants that he wants that I do. It's like a

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>different world, you know what I'm saying that That's what

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when I when I took her there.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>But seeing my daughter at seventeen and what her mom

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and I are teaching or have taught her, I only

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>got another year with her before she's out, and she

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, she leaves the nest. So it's it's funny

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>that you say that because Rome's got four kids. I

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>have four kids. You got four kids too, right, yep? Yeah,

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and just and they're all so different. But you're trying

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to plant seeds in them to be open minded and

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to care for people, to love for people. So yeah,

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it gets it gets better the older that they're getting. Man,

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it's oh man, you're you're gonna have a blast at seventeen.

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving being a girl dad. It's it's one of

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like the best job ever being a being a

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>girl dad. I love it. But we'll get back into that.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll tell more stories about our kids. Right now, we

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>got to pay some bills, so y'all hold on for

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>about thirty seconds. We'll be right back. We're back, all right.

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>We have my man, Andrew Whitworth right here. Tons of accolades.

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I still got one in my back pocket

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>that I'm gonna wait till the end to throw out.

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to know if he knows this last nugget

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that I found out about this young man. Um. All right,

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>So I love to ask this question because I have

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>my own unique experience, and everybody on this podcast does

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully some listeners do is to do as well.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>But what was your first welcome to the NFL moment?

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.439
<v Speaker 1>You're like, WHOA, Okay, this is the league. I think

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I had multiple of them, and playing in Cincinnati in

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.919
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six. Uh, we had an interesting team,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>let's put it that way. Uh, you know, there's some

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>wild characters in that in that locker room. So I

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of them, everybody from Ojo and uh

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Whosh and Dexter Jackson and you know, I mean, lord,

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we we had guys from everywhere. But uh, you know,

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I met some really cool guys. Realized I was no

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 1>longer in the SEC anymore, and it's a totally different world.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think by like on the field moment was

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panthers my rookie year as my first start as

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a left tackle in the NFL. I think it was

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Week five, played Peppers and Mike Rucker and Mike Rutger

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and Julius Peppers. At that time, I think, like, you know,

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the last four years had like eighty something sacks is

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the most by a duo, you know, in the league

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>at that time. And I had a play like late

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>in the game, we're beating them, and I know we'll

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>call it lucky, just so I'm trying to be nice

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>because Mike calls me out, so I pancake Mike Rucker

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.479
<v Speaker 1>and I stood up. I'm just like I'm feeling good.

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>So I talked some smack. We call the next play

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the same play, and I rised real quick what it

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>was like to be a veteran the NFL and they

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what's coming. And he literally just ejects me

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>into the running back like tackles him in the backfield,

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>super embarrassing. I'm literally just like, all right, man, I'm

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna learn just I'm gonna hold on a little bit, like,

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I had one good play. I kind of

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>lost my tongue a little bit, and Mike putting me

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on my place, and I realized that I was I

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>was dealing with grown men. So you know what, I

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.720
<v Speaker 1>found that out real fast. So when you play sports

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>typically I don't know, six to seven, three hundred plus pounds,

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 1>you always to me, you look like you're always a

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 1>big kid. So they automatically just like, oh whitworth, Yeah,

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>big kid, put them off asive line, Yeah you get chow,

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>or they just put you in a position. If you

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>could have picked a position to play regardless of your size,

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>what position would have been. I think growing up, I

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>always thought I was going to be a tight end

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>or defensive end. I mean, I told you I loved basketball.

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>That's actually what I played up until my senior year

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>in high school. Um. I always thought of myself as

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>being a tight end. Um I thought I'd be that,

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and then I kind of you know, like Mike Zimmer

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>would say, I always had like a defensive mentality for

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>a lineman. Um. I love like effort and running and

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>just chasing people down and stuff like, Um, you know

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>it's bad because it's an interception, but I used to

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 1>love what we threw an interception, Like I want to

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>be the one to get over there and make a

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>tackle and being to be in the mix right people. Yeah,

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I had I tried that one time,

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>but uh, you know, that was like my mindset. But

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what's funny, it's like how I chose my college.

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I was an LSU. I was a Louisiana kid, but

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I never really wanted to go to LSU. I always

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go to Florida Ucas Spurrier had like a

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of big tight ends and you know, back Fred

0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Taylor and all them cats. So that's why I want

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to go. And every college recruited me that way, Like,

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>hey man, you know, Jason Peters was at Arkansas. You

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of being tight end college football, and

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 1>then I Nick Saban gets hired by LSU my senior

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>year in high school, and he walks in the door

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you're not going to be a tight end.

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>As soon as you give in to being a left tackle,

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have an unbelievable career. And I was like, man,

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I respect the heck guy. This guy he just told

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>me what I didn't want to hear and then at

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the same time told me what I was going to accomplish.

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And so I like, for me, that just flipped a switch.

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And then the next day I called Florida and told

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:34.959
<v Speaker 1>him I wasn't coming there and I was gonna become

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>an LSU Tiger and the rest is history. But I

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was that you wore number eighty nine. I'm like, we're

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>played was number eighty nine in high school? You were

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine eighty nine as a sophomore. That was my

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>sophomore year, first time playing. Then ninety nine is ninety

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>nine as a junior because I played defense too, And

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>then I went to seven when they finally moved me

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to offensive line by senior year seventy four, So that

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>was my That was my ending. But one for one. Yeah,

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>there's another one. Come on now, yo, yeah yeah, play that?

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, play that next one another we'll get on

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the board first. Oh yeah, come on here. You got

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to make sure you you notice who was supposed to

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>be covering me on that play. That's my dog right there,

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Clark lsu brother. Uh. You know, I never let

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>him live that down. I remind him, you know, at

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>least every couple of years about me being open in

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the end zone right there. So that that was a

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>cool moment actually though. Yeah, that was my That was

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>my birthday and my wife was expecting our twins. That

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>was our first kids. Um, we ended up having them

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 1>in February, but that was actually all my birthday. First

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 1>drive of the game, I think what's cool about that one.

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done the research yet. I'd love to know

0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:00.240
<v Speaker 1>that was the only offensive touchdown scored in that game.

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So I'd love to know how many NFL

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>games and offensive lineman has been the only offensive touchdown

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>scored in the game. I probably would say none. I'm

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>here we go, come home, baby, let's go. I'm goin.

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to get I'm just trying to get

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 1>another plaque for my wall for podcast. You own that

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>one all day, boss, That's that's that's so good. All right,

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>here's another one. So we did a little bit deeper

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 1>research too as well. You told us that. And this

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>is on your Twitter again, all right, your top three

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>old school hip hop artists. And when I saw this,

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I was literally like, tell them, tell show me you

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>from Louisiana without telling you from Louisiana. And this is

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it right here. You have a screenshot of your top

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>three old school rappers. Are Notorious Big, which everybody loved

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and you're more East Coast, which I

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>get because you're in Louisiana. You weren't on two Pop.

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You're on the Biggie and then Mystical and Master Peak,

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 1>which here I had many I have. I said all

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 1>they needed was Silt the shocker bro and we were

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>complaining that was it. That was it too? Yes, Hey,

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 1>look you know what I ghetto d that was the first.

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I was the first CD. Like I actually

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:18.240
<v Speaker 1>went to the store and bought myself in high school.

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I remember as a freshman with my own money. Uh

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>so you know what that was a freshman year. I

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>believe eighth grade year. But yeah, I mean that was

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I grew up on master peaking those guys what everyone did?

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Break them off? Something that wasn't I wasn't left hit

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:35.879
<v Speaker 1>in what ninety ninety nine, two thousand? Yeah, when when

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 1>when the hot boys was hot? You know, you really

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 1>mess people up in Louisiana is my freshman year in

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 1>college is screwed right, Like, so I started playing that stuff.

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Guys are like this, I'm like that bro, June June

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, Like, come on, you own. You go ten

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Westerton East and you're driving either way, you put you

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh throwing and it will go for about twenty

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's about thirty five minutes of freestyle

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and roll. Right. I had a couple of Texas teammates,

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.959
<v Speaker 1>so I've never heard screw in Alabama. Until Texas guys

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 1>came in. I was like, what is this. They're like, Oh,

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it's screwed like it's everything topped the screw. So I'm

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>from Texas and that's literally from eighth grade whatever. Once

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I learned about it, you know what I'm saying to

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Ah Sound the North side of Houston, Man that was

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I could play it right now, but I know we

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have the license to play, so they're gonna blu

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>bleep it out. But I think I like you that

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 1>much more now because you just said you all about

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>June twenty seven. Oh come on, man, oh my god,

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I got it. I got I got the slow jams.

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I got all the slow jams. They're called actions, I

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>got them all, baby, Come on, they're called f actions

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 1>as UC screwed up click big mode. You don't have

0:48:56.120 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a Howard? Yeah, Dina Howard T shirt,

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a shirt and my panties on. You really do yourself.

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you that you're really this song these Oh

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.240
<v Speaker 1>my god, this is you. You're my new best friend.

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I think we just became best Did we just become

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>best friends right now? We justcame best friends right now?

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is like our step brothers moment.

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>That is so dope. I don't even know what the

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>next question I was gonna ask. We started talking about

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.399
<v Speaker 1>screw and I just got so excited. That's dope. So

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 1>um oh yeah, yeah, Mount Rushmore, nol Rushmore. We asked

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the guests on this show, Um, if

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you could pick four, only four people to pick or

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>put on your Mount Rushmore. Who would those people be?

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And don't have to be all athletics. It's just it's

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:53.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody who had some influence, someone that you love, somebody

0:49:53.760 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 1>that was a mentor. That's tough, yow uh you know,

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I wanna stick. I wanna here's the thing, all right,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm gonna make it complicated because I'm complicated.

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like food, it's like music, it's like

0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>anything else. I don't like. I don't like to disrespect

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>people when I talking about a certain genre of things.

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So I want to make my own genre of Mountain Rushmore.

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cheat. So my Mount Rushmore of sports, all right,

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>my Mount Rushmore Sports. I'm gonna put up Michael Jordan's

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky. This might as well be what

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>was the little show when we were kids on the USA?

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right now? Uh So I'm gonna on Michael Jordan,

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Gretzky Tiger Woods. And I think for me, just because

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I grew up, like I said, where I did, I

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 1>was a massive fans guy Nolan Ryan. Because I'm gonna

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>tell you why, man, Nolan Ryan was only an awesome pitcher.

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>But I was actually at the game when he woked

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Robin Ventura when he charged them out. My dad. I

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to see him play, Yeah, and I was

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>actually in the stands uh you know he was. He was.

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>He was a baseball player that was a tough guy

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>too at the same time. So that's the only reason

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:25.800
<v Speaker 1>he's on there. That's it, just because for me my

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 1>world as a little kid. I don't know how old

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I was then, but watching him, I thought he was

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>man just unbelievable. So I put him on there just

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>for that. For sports. That's my one, my by one guy.

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Plenty of guys probably deserve it more, but he's my guy. Okay,

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, before we get you out of here, I

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>gotta have you. I'm gonna hit you at one one

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>quick question, and you gotta maybe just tell me this

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.760
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know this. Peanut asked Peanut this earlier.

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Peanut and I have never been ejected out of the game.

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I must know with What did you do to get

0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.800
<v Speaker 1>ejected out of the game versus the Oakland Raiders the

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>one time it happened twice? You were too nice? You

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't give twice. I got h In two thousand and eight,

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 1>we were oz and eight. Uh. We played the Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars and the Saturday, the Saturday before the game, I

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<v Speaker 1>finally just reached that point in your career where you

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<v Speaker 1>lost it. And I was like, lit lit our offense up,

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to walk through on Saturday, because I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm done with it, Like I'm done with

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<v Speaker 1>how like you guys are just okay with losing. We're okay,

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>we're getting our face kicked in, Like yeah, I'm done

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Like I've never in my life been somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who was somebody's you know what. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just it ain't gonna happen anymore. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>go out in the game. We're up in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chad like being Chad and t J like they

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:51.880
<v Speaker 1>finally like we're having a good moment, they're having a

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<v Speaker 1>good day, and they start chewing at the d line

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>for the Jaguars and it turns into, you know, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>at each other's throats and I'm facing big bad John

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<v Speaker 1>John Henderson nine six nine and three ninety pounds whatever

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the heck he was he's a monster. He made me

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<v Speaker 1>look small, and we got after it, like we started

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<v Speaker 1>getting into it, and the next thing you know, we

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:14.240
<v Speaker 1>snapped the play and me and him just started throwing

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.839
<v Speaker 1>and we ripped each other's helmets off. We fight all

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<v Speaker 1>the way across the field. Both get ejected. But as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving the field, I guess Cincinnati have anything else

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<v Speaker 1>to cheer about. They're chanting to my name. As I'm

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<v Speaker 1>leaving it, I'm like, there's actually a picture. I'm like

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>pointing at my jersey leaving the field, And I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget after that moment, like I was in the tunnel,

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I waited for the guys and like I was the

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>captain the Cincinnati Bengals from that moment on, like that

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 1>was that was it. That was the moment, Like you

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>t J. Husmin's Ada gave me a hug and he's like, man,

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you said stuff yesterday and you backed it up today

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like the greatest respect I could give you.

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>And so after that moment, that's what it was. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the Oakland one was Lamar Houston I think sacked

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<v Speaker 1>Andy on like a dead play, like one of those

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>where you know they blew it dead and then he

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<v Speaker 1>still went through it the sack and kind of like

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>superplexed Andy, and so I ran over there to like

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<v Speaker 1>shove him. And it's kind of was that one was

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<v Speaker 1>really less of a fight and more of a I

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>shoved him. They had a veteran D line, yeah, and

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.239
<v Speaker 1>their veteran D line attacked and it was like me

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and all their D line. The best part of that

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:17.359
<v Speaker 1>story is that we get kicked out if that's when

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<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati Bengals young, because I had a young offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line at that time. They found out who Melissa Witworth

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<v Speaker 1>was because she stood in the tunnel and my wife

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 1>ain't going on no Twitter. If she got a problem

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 1>with somebody, she coming face to face. She stood in

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<v Speaker 1>the tunnel and waited for everyone in. They'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>every one of these young linemen like you like you,

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<v Speaker 1>next time my husband and I fight, you better jump

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<v Speaker 1>in that pile. Like then, she was lighting them up.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hilarious and only the way she can. She

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<v Speaker 1>loves some football and she's got some fire to her too,

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<v Speaker 1>So she was letting them young guys know like that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't how you do it? Like you always have you

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>get in there, you know, they were nervous. They were

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 1>all like standing like looking like yeah, apparently not like

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:01.200
<v Speaker 1>they were nervous guys, but uh, you know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was a fun day because it's a

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:05.399
<v Speaker 1>cool memory for her and those guys because they love

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>her and grew to love her and they always appreciate

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that moment you checked them a little bit. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a very teachable moment right there, and that's

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>what we do on this podcast. Here, I'm gonna teach

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you one guy's one more thing and we're gonna let

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>wit work. Get up out of here. So did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you are second in all time in the

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<v Speaker 1>NC Double A as far in Division One in career starts.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Yes, you have fifty two career

0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>starts in your career in D one football. That is

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:38.720
<v Speaker 1>second all time to only Derek Straight who had fifty

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>three cornerback at Oklahoma. So I'm glad I got to

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<v Speaker 1>teach you something today as well. So there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>They no doubt man, No doubt, man, Thank you for

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 1>blessing us with your time coming on here. Man, you're

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:52.359
<v Speaker 1>just as cool as the other side of the pillow man.

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>The same way it was the very first time I

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 1>actually got to meet you, um back all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back when when we were in So man, I appreciate

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you for being who you are. Continue to be that

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>light man, and we all will shine as long as

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we're around people like you. So thank you for that. Hey,

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thanks, no doubt. Man. All right, well

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 1>look let me let me let me get us up

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 1>out of here. So all of our listeners, I want

0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I think all of our listeners for

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 1>always tuning in. Also, I want to ask you to

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<v Speaker 1>hit review, give us a follow, continue to tell a friend,

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.399
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0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:29.439
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0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:33.640
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<v Speaker 1>Continue to listen to us, and we'll see you next time. Peace,