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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Players Second Acts Podcast. I'm Peanut Tuman and as always,

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Speaker 1: I got my guy, my uncle Roman Harper with us today.

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Speaker 1: What's up? What up? Hump? I'm doing good man. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we are a Southern family because anytime the uncle is

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Speaker 1: younger than the nephew, it's it's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: unique situation. So I always think that of us when

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Speaker 1: we see each other. And I feel good because our

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Speaker 1: guest today shares a little bit of something with me

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Speaker 1: in common. Not only did he play in the SEC,

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Speaker 1: but he's also a silver Fox himself, So I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of proud of that, and we both rocket proudly and

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Speaker 1: uniquely and beautifully as well. So before we jump into

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Speaker 1: it and you introduced our our guests today, I want

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Speaker 1: to thank all the listeners for tuning in. I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you to get to spread the word, tell

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Speaker 1: to your podcast. So, pe Nut, with all due respect,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, my man, go ahead and kick us off

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Speaker 1: with this one. So let me list these accolades of this,

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Speaker 1: uh twenty of me. It's a lot, it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Roman numerals. But he won the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl when he was in LA. He's a two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty one Walter Peyton Man of the year, four

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Speaker 1: time pro bowler. Won the two thousand and three BCS

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Speaker 1: Natural Championship with LSU drafted by the Bengals and O

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Speaker 1: six in the second round. Retired from the Rams in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one. Ken y'all, please show some

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Speaker 1: love for Andrew with worm we sol fallas. Appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Well, let's go ahead, let's talk about those

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Speaker 1: accolades and then we'll ball. Okay, So you won three

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Speaker 1: back to back, took of your off and then won

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Speaker 1: it again. You won three national chair excuse me, three

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Speaker 1: high school championships in football, right, yep? Do y'all get

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Speaker 1: y'all got rings in Louisiana? Oh yeah, we got rings. Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Monroe's real, Doug like where he's at. They played some

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Speaker 1: real ball. It's a lot of guys that they put out.

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Speaker 1: Did you want a state championship in tennis? No, that

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Speaker 1: is a great question. Though, so it's actually a fantastic story.

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Speaker 1: I was at LSU and you know, you're going through

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Speaker 1: the process of sports directors like hey, we need to

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Speaker 1: like keep pubbing you up or how well you're playing.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try and get you on the All American team,

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Speaker 1: get national attention. So let's name some things you've done,

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Speaker 1: like you know, before you got here. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I want a high school sta attention. Football.

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Speaker 1: I won the five A state championship in powerlifting in

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Speaker 1: the heavyweight class, so like we're naming that. And then

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Speaker 1: he's like any other things you want as a kid,

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Speaker 1: like baseball and did you go the World Series or anything.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I did you know? We went

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Speaker 1: and they're like, man, so what year was it that

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Speaker 1: you won the high school championship in tests? I'm like, what, Like,

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Speaker 1: I won like the local like you get a little

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Speaker 1: anything that that care is a trophy. So it's carried

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Speaker 1: on throughout my career. I always get asked about it,

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Speaker 1: and it's hilarious because it literally came from like a

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Speaker 1: two minute conversation of stuff you've done as a kid,

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Speaker 1: and it has lived its own life throughout my career. Man,

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Speaker 1: just go win it, Just go win it. Just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just like the white, three hundred pound

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Speaker 1: male version of Serena and Venus combined, Like that's that

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Speaker 1: We were literally talking before. I'm like, how's he running

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Speaker 1: couldn't imagine it. I'm like, how does this even possible?

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Speaker 1: I can play tennis, but I ain't like that. I

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Speaker 1: Pickleballs my sport. There we go. See I'm a golfer,

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Speaker 1: And he's the first one that really got me to like,

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Speaker 1: And so I know he can golf, I know he

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Speaker 1: awesome that you were able to accomplish that. So also

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five great classes. You know, just want

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Speaker 1: of the Year award. And you know, we see that

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Speaker 1: It was like, man, we really loved this guy, and

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Speaker 1: you talk about how special that award is because I

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Speaker 1: know Peanut was also a person that won the Walter

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Speaker 1: Payd Man of the Year you also wanted. I did not,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted many other accolades, but that one alone,

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Speaker 1: But I'm looking across the league at the other thirty

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Speaker 1: You know. My my level of media experience leading up

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Speaker 1: I was a pretty nervous when I walked up there.

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Speaker 1: it was like, man, I'm just I'm just gonna tell

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Speaker 1: And it was a really special moment for me and

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Speaker 1: with with that. And again, congratulations, It's it's one of my,

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Speaker 1: if not my greatest accomplishment while playing, you know, winning

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Speaker 1: but the people that you impact on the day to day. Basically,

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Speaker 1: like I can remember at some point it's like I'm

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Speaker 1: I just something was off. I was that I felt

427
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 1: like I played up until the meter read empty. So

428
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 1: when I when I when I got done and walked

429
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 1: off that field after the Super Bowl, m I felt

430
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 1: like that was everything I had left. I mean, you know,

431
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 1: and part of that may be because in my career

432
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 1: I was really blessed with like being very very healthy

433
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 1: for the most part. I mean things, but nothing that

434
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 1: you'd say are and this is gonna hinder your career.

435
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 1: And then the last really like two years of my career,

436
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: I had the torn PCL at MCL, I had come

437
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 1: back from. I had a presignificant need deal that went

438
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,439
Speaker 1: on a hip injury. So it was like, all right,

439
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of getting to be grueling to show up

440
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 1: every day and go through this. And I was I

441
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,439
Speaker 1: really like from a body standpoint of feeling good enough

442
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: to play, I felt fine, but it started to be

443
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 1: frustrating to just get Sunday to Sunday. And I started

444
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 1: losing the fun of that chase of like chasing my

445
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: job all the time. And so that's I really kind

446
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: of knew that was it at the conversation with Melissa,

447
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 1: like we knew, you know what, this is the last ride,

448
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 1: let's see how it ends. So for me, I was

449
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: like in a pretty good spot, but I really knew it.

450
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 1: Like the second week at training camp, I go out

451
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: to the rams their practices down here in Cali, and

452
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm gonna show up the first

453
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: day of pads and I'm like, you know what, when

454
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: once they do the acclimation stuff they're going in pads,

455
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up. And I really know when I

456
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: go to this practice. I show up at practice, I

457
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 1: bet I lasted twelve minutes. Like I was sitting out

458
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: there and I was like, you know what, like I

459
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: go hit some golf balls right now, like I'm good,

460
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 1: Like I'm out of here. I literally like I was like,

461
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna say that lows to the

462
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: people on your say hello too, and then I'm getting

463
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: out of here, Like I don't even want to sit

464
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 1: here and watch it like much less practice it. So

465
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: I literally pieced out like twenty minutes into the practice,

466
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 1: and I knew then, like that's it, Like you're done,

467
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: You're ready to just talk about this game and how

468
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: much has changed your life and the passion you always

469
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: will have for it. But playing it is over with.

470
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: Does your body feel now? How do your knees feel?

471
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: I always ask big guys that question. I feel pretty good.

472
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's things like I'm not sitting out

473
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: here trying to go do a bunch of single legs

474
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: squats or something for a bunch of reps and heavy weight.

475
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: But I feel great, Like if you put a bar

476
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: on my back, I'd be ready to go and squat

477
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: and do everything else. I feel good. I work out consistently.

478
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: One of the things that helped me play at that age.

479
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't play at forty if you're not

480
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: pretty active, is that I had really adapted a lifestyle

481
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: like That's who I was, like every day even to

482
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: this day, Like this morning at five am, I'm in

483
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: mym Fred Sauda. At six am, I did you know,

484
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: the yoga with my instructor, you know. And then on Monday, Wednesday, Friday,

485
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: I trained with my trainer and work out like I

486
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: just go. That's kind of who I am. I'll always

487
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: be that way, whether I'm playing or not. I mean,

488
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: my schedule doesn't change much from that aspect because I

489
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: just love training, not because I'm training for something. And

490
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: so you know, for me, it's like I feel pretty

491
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: good because I'm still really active. I try to be

492
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: really cautious of conscious of like, hey, these are the

493
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: things I need to do now to kind of unwind

494
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: some of the things I did when I played. So

495
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm not lifting a bunch of weight, but I'm moving,

496
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, and trying to stay that way. So so

497
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: with number one, I mean, that's the best way to

498
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: do it is to just continue to take care of yourself.

499
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: It's also going to help you initially too. It's gonna

500
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: keep you mentally strong. I think that's what working out

501
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: for me. That's what's kind of helped me prolongs. It

502
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: just keeps me mentally all there. That's like the one

503
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: thing when I get out of whack, it's like, dude,

504
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: I need to go hit the gym and just release.

505
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: The one thing I saw on your Twitter you talked

506
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 1: about it about being in a dark place. You had

507
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: seen all the tweet from Byron Jones, and you commented

508
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: on it and you talked about how thanks for the

509
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: great dialogue. How everybody's responding about how they're feeling, their

510
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: feelings on how their bodies feel, and other people doing

511
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: other jobs and how they say they're in pain and

512
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: all these other things. You were just wondering, like was

513
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: I normal? You know, I was playing at forty something

514
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: years old. I got aches and pains. And is it

515
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: from football strictly or is everybody at this age have

516
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: certain aches and pains. We all hear about it from

517
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: normal people as well. And I really enjoy your dialogue,

518
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: and not only that, but your responses to some of

519
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: the Twitter mentions and everybody else that responded to those

520
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: things as well. I thought the open dialogue of communication

521
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: was huge. That you know, so often in this world,

522
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: especially football players, we're talking you gotta be tough, you

523
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: gotta be this, and all of a sudden, when we're

524
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden take that armor off and we

525
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: actually open up about these things we don't feel. So,

526
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, strength is in the weakness. Right when you're

527
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: at your weakest, sometimes that could be your strongest because

528
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: you're not alone when you see other people going through

529
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: a lot of those similar things. I would like to

530
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: maybe you tell me, like what took you to that

531
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: place where you started bringing that up, and also like,

532
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: what did you learn from that experience of really just

533
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, leaving your emotions all out there on Twitter

534
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: and getting it out there. Yeah, I think when you

535
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: when you talk about the game and the passion it

536
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: takes the player throughout my last probably I always call

537
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: it my last five years, probably six years when I

538
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: really when I was in my thirties, mid thirties, thirty

539
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: four thirty five, I really did sit there and be like,

540
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: all right, I mean, how many homeboys I got back

541
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: that like are dealing with something or like you know,

542
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I remember so on so head shoulders surgery

543
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: and fell on a basketball court or whatever it was.

544
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, man, I'm not the only person

545
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: out here that's like dealing with something where I'm in

546
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: this dark place where I don't know if I can

547
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: get my body back to Let's put some perspective on it.

548
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: Playing the most elite game in the world, like like,

549
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that you can't like function as a

550
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: person in society, right, but in your mind it's the

551
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: only thing that matters, And so you go to these

552
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: dark places because you're like, man, I can't dunk a

553
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: basketball anymore, Like at some point that I became a reality,

554
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: like I can't it hurts Stephen try to dunk a

555
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: basketball right like, but like I could still live a

556
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: normal life. It's just my perspective is I'm comparing it

557
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: to playing NFL football, which is the highest or the

558
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: highest level. And so I genuinely asked the question because

559
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: that's literally what I thought about when I played, Like,

560
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: is there other people out there that feel like this?

561
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: That work jobs where you got a strain a lot?

562
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: Obviously there's not a lot of people that work in

563
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: a office every day that have significant injuries, but might

564
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: have daily things if they're not taking care of their body.

565
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: So to hear people's perspective on that, and part of

566
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: it was like it wasn't about whether I agreed or

567
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: disagreed with, you know how, Like the feeling is that

568
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: maybe other players have about that and about their body

569
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: and about their experience in the NFL. It's that there's

570
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: different points of view from all of us in all

571
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: walks of life. And I don't care what we're talking about.

572
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: We can talk about, you know, religion, racism, we can

573
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: talk about injuries. We took all these things like everyone's

574
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: viewpoint is their viewpoint and just being okay with like

575
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: some people are gonna come with a little steam when

576
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: you bring up a subject, and some people are gonna

577
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: hit you with kindness, like but everyone's like they're due

578
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: there how they feel. But let's just talk through a

579
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: little bit of how it is you feel, Like I

580
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: want to know why you feel that way or what

581
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: you actually are experiencing. And I feel like for me,

582
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: it's like at first you have to do that, and

583
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: like the first people think like, oh, you're mocking somebody,

584
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: or you're trying to go after somebody, or this is

585
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: a take, you know as they call it. And it's like,

586
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: now I'm just trying to talk, Like y'all want to talk,

587
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk, you know, that's the people

588
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: don't know how to do that though, more though, that's people.

589
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: People don't know how to communicate. People don't know how

590
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: to talk. It is this we we're on our phones, right,

591
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: so this is this is what people know. This is

592
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: like the new standard. Nobody knows how to communicate. Nobody.

593
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: If I do communicate what you with, I'm going to

594
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: text you and then the text message that you get

595
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: you read it a certain kind of way and it's

596
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: like you took a finish to it. And I'm like, wait, no,

597
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: you're interpreting my texting as a drawn rather than just

598
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: picking up the damn phone and just say, hey, this

599
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: is what I meant to say, this is who I am.

600
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: And then you can tell by the I don't know

601
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: the way my voice carries it, like you know, if

602
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm mad, happy, sad, whatever. Yeah, I try to tell

603
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: my kids that all man. Hey, look I tell this

604
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: all the time. My wife and I had this conversation

605
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: one time, just about open dialogue, and she's like we're

606
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: talking about something we fought over and I'm like laughing

607
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: and we're making fun of each other, and I'm like, hey, babe,

608
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: I just said like we were down to like half

609
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: a car in the milk. And she was like, yeah,

610
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: but I heard you say you're a bad mother you

611
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: didn't put milk in the fridge for the kids. And

612
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I just I just said we

613
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: need to get a new carton, like I said, but

614
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: how it is right? Yeah, all I said was when

615
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: needs some fresh milk, that's it. Like you just no, no,

616
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: you call me a bad mom, like, well, no, didn't

617
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like those things can happen that way,

618
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: even sometimes when it's clear communication. And so I just

619
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: from me, I've always taken the thing like I can't

620
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: be on this this platform if I can't handle criticism

621
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: and I can't handle compliments and I can't run with

622
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: it one way or another, like you know. And so

623
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: for me, it's like, if I can stay calm and

624
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: just have dialogue, then I can be on here. If

625
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: it can't be like that, then it's not worth my

626
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: time because my emotions being controlled by something that can

627
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: be misread and misunderstood is wild to me, Like that

628
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. So I just wanted to have

629
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: a conversation about it and see how people feel. And

630
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: also I just hope for him, like you know, I

631
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: feel wherever he is and he's at with all of that, man,

632
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: just make sure you reach out and keep some perspective

633
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: of really the blessings you have had in the game,

634
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: the toughness that is the reality that we sign up for.

635
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: You know, there's parts of it that you know, what

636
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: the NFL could always do better, and there's no doubt

637
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: about that. I mean I think we all can agree

638
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: on that there's policies that every at every level that

639
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: they could be better with, but we also sign up

640
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: for the job, and so I think for me, it's

641
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: just making sure you keep a little perspective in life

642
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: and what things are like and what everyone else goes through. Yeah,

643
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: And so just all that being said, Bro, I think

644
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I got out of especially you responded

645
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: to all those comments, was that vulnerability is strength number

646
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: one when you when you're able to open up and share.

647
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: And I hope Byron Jones here's that as well, because

648
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: his Vulnabi allows you to have the strength and courage

649
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: to reach out as well and just like talk about it.

650
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: And so that's huge for me. And then I got

651
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: to get on my soapbox for a minute because I

652
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: tell my wife all the time with I'm just like you, Bro,

653
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, you can't read them motions through text,

654
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: so like I'm just asking the question here, Like I

655
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: ain't saying nothing about you being a bad mom. I

656
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: ain't said none of that, Like words matter, Like I

657
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: didn't say none of that, like, and so I said this,

658
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: and then you said what you heard, which is not

659
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: what I said, So all right, I'm off my soapbox.

660
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: That's why I say just pick up the phone or

661
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: just physically talk to that person because you won't have

662
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: the wrong interpretation. That's really what I was just don't

663
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: even started with come talk to I started with now like, hey,

664
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I'm not saying, and then

665
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to what I am saying. That's that's

666
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: what I started with. Now, somebody need to use that one.

667
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: That's funny. So I'm not in a dark place because

668
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm forty two and I can still dunk a basketball.

669
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna throw it out there, right,

670
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm I got down in forty two vertically, don't trying

671
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: to dunk on my kids eight and a half of

672
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: a gold just like yesterday and my daughter pushed me

673
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: and I missed that joke. I felt so bad. I'm like, bro,

674
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: I can't even get a half sprike commercial right? Commercial

675
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: act was that it was bad? Yeah, so um for

676
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: the most part, when nobody really retires when they want to,

677
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: like football retires you. We talked to a Golik about

678
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: this at Super Bowl and he said, I didn't retire

679
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: football the NFL retired me. I didn't choose to retire.

680
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: I kind of didn't really want to retire. When I retired,

681
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: I turned at ACL at thirty thirty four. Room. You

682
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: were still playing, you were still doing things, um but

683
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: you you were a little bit different though. Like you

684
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: you had this Hollywood storybook ending oldest man in the

685
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: league or oldest lineman in the league, won Walter Payton

686
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: Man of the Year. You win the Super Bowl, then

687
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: you choose to retire. My question is, had you not

688
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, would you have retired? You know?

689
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, I kind of faced that similar situation

690
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: when we lost to the Patriots, and in the sense

691
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: that people kept asking me, will you retired, And that

692
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: was really a moment where I was like, I don't.

693
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I never even thought about retiring. I mean,

694
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to chase it. I mean, I think Jared.

695
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: I actually saw Jared Golf a couple of weeks ago,

696
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: and we were telling that story when we landed from Atlanta,

697
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: lost in the Super Bowl on Sunday, fly home the

698
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: next day as a team landing from Atlanta, and just

699
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: who I was and how I just love to push

700
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: myself in the crazy ways. I put my headset on

701
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: and put on my music, and as soon as we

702
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: pulled up to the facility on our team bus, like

703
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: I started walking doing a look a little walk jog

704
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: around the field like because I was like day one

705
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: starts right now. We already had a long season, Like

706
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna keep playing at my age, I gotta

707
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: get moving. And so the guys are getting in their

708
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: cars like ending the season, and I'm out there running

709
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: on the field and it's like that's what my mentality was.

710
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: But this one was totally different. When I walked into

711
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Week one against the Arizona Cardinals of the playoffs, I

712
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: had already know this is it, this is the last ride.

713
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know, remember what a blessing

714
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: has been to play this game. It's not a burden,

715
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: because at times sometimes it can feel that way, but

716
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a blessing to play this game. And so

717
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: I took that attitude and I'll never forget calling it

718
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: up for that game and we were going to walk

719
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: out the tunnel, and you know, there were things I

720
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: wanted to say. There's things you want to talk about

721
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: when it's football season. To be fired up. But there

722
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: are things I want to make sure my guy's heard.

723
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: And it was one that this game, you know what,

724
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: has blessed and changed a lot of our lives. And

725
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: remember that. And then also remember you are in the

726
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: most elite percentile in the world. Man. So anybody that

727
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: tells you anything you can't do, that's living. We broke

728
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: it down to and we walked up that tunnel. Anybody

729
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: tells you anything you can't do in life, and I

730
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: don't care what it is on this field or off

731
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: of it. Every single one of you or special men

732
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: and special people, and that's why you're standing where you are.

733
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: I'll never forget us breaking it down to that. And

734
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: it was just a purpose, like this is the last run.

735
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: I know how playoff gadens go. When you lose them,

736
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: everybody scatters. I want you, guys to make sure you

737
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: know I love you and that you are special. And

738
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: don't you let anybody ever tell you anything different. Yeah,

739
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: a man's live or what is false to make of it?

740
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I love it. Another great quote about Peter Huttilman man,

741
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: I love no um wit man. Clearly you are a

742
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: great leader and you grew into those leadership roles as

743
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: you continue to play more, get more reps, and uh,

744
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: clearly as the oldest lineman in the league at the end,

745
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: you're definitely a great leader. And you told a story

746
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: about about Derek Barnes about how you impacted this life.

747
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I read another story about when you were Joe Burrow

748
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: were rehabbing in the offseason how you guys became great

749
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: buddies as well. I mean, like hold on, they were

750
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: hanging out on each other's birthdays. I mean, it's gotta

751
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: be nice. And so at what point in your career

752
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: did you begin to develop these leadership skills or qualities

753
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: and when did you start to notice that, you know what,

754
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: I think, I am becoming this leader because you don't. Actually,

755
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure most people don't try and aim to be

756
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: the leader. It just kind of falls upon you. No,

757
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: I think some people you don't. You do it naturally though.

758
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: It's just it's natural point and you can hell yeah, yeah.

759
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: I think for me, I realized at a younger age,

760
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: probably when I got into college and then write my

761
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: first couple of years in the league, that I had

762
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: a special ability to pull people in one direction or

763
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the other. And I realized that just naturally who I was,

764
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: I was a magnet, and so if I wanted to

765
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: go the wrong way, I could take people that way,

766
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: and if I want to go the right way, I could.

767
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: And I needed to make a conscious decision of who

768
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: it is I wanted to be. And so I think

769
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: at some point, like after I met Melissa and we

770
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: really kind of hit it off, or people who were

771
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: wound in the same way mentally of what we want

772
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: to do in life and what's important to us. I

773
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: knew who I wanted to be in the sense of

774
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: not becoming a leader, but I knew the man I

775
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: wanted to be. And as I always have told every

776
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: one of the guys that I've had a chance to

777
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: be in the locker room with its, regardless of the

778
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: title that football gives you or platform it gives you,

779
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: you're a man before you're anything else, and you need

780
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: to decide who that is. And so that's where we start.

781
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: And so for me, it's always been about I'm gonna

782
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: do one Like Peanut, you can teach what you know,

783
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: but you'll only ever reproduce who you are. And so

784
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: for me, it was like, I'm not gonna talk to

785
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: guys about leadership or talk to them about why I'm

786
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: a leader. I'm gonna show them who I am and

787
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: the ones that want that in their life will follow.

788
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: And you know what, if they see it and they

789
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: believe it and they trust you, I think that, Like

790
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: we just talked about vulnerability and trust, that happens at

791
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: different times for everybody. Yeah, you know, and men and

792
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: women you know are around you enough, they like eventually

793
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: they put their guard down and say, you know what

794
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: you're You're somebody showing me that you're trustable and that

795
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: you'll truly like have good intentions. And so I think

796
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: for me, it was just continuing to work on who

797
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: I am and be the best version of who I

798
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: can be, and if people want to follow that and

799
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: they ask for help or they want my leadership, I'll

800
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: be there for them. And I've always said, leadership to

801
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: me is about the ability to want people to stand

802
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: side by side with you and walk through a door

803
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: like they like, I don't know what's on the other

804
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: side of the door, but this is the dude, I

805
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: want to walk through the door. And so I don't

806
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: need them to command me. I don't need them to

807
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: tell me how to do things. I want to stand

808
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: right beside them, and I think to me that like

809
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: the inagability to be able to do that is special

810
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: and I'm never taking that for granted. Strengthens for service,

811
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: not status, And I try to use my platform to

812
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: help people, and considering what happened to my daughter back

813
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: and oh wait, with a heart transplant, I'm always trying

814
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: to help somebody out and just be kind, show true

815
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: kindness to people. And it's helped me tremendously to help

816
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: people that I don't know. That's probably like one of

817
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: the greatest joys in life is helping someone you don't

818
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: know and not really wanting anything in return. Now, you

819
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: and your family are the true living testament of what

820
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: that is. Helping out people and then loving yourself as

821
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: your neighbor. What are you trying to convey and show

822
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: your kids just with the kind of man and the

823
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: kind of wife that you have. What's what's that message

824
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: that you're trying to show your kids. I think for us,

825
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: it's you know what, you know, you're gonna fail, you're

826
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna mess up, you're gonna have bad days. But I

827
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: call it constant daily pursuit and the reason I say

828
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: that is that it's one thing to pursue something daily,

829
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: but to constantly choose to pursue it daily to me

830
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: as a difference. So I call it every day. I'm

831
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: on a constant, daily pursuit of a better version of myself.

832
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: And then that accept my failures, accept my successes, and

833
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: the next morning I wake up the same way, with

834
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: the same process to find a better version. And I

835
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: think for us, it's about everything starts at our dinner table.

836
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: And my kids will know to love people regardless of

837
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: where they come from, what they look like, what they

838
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: expect from them. They'll love them because they love them,

839
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: not because of anything else. And they're gonna want to

840
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: make a difference because that's gonna be a passion of theirs.

841
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: And so we try to make sure that anything we do,

842
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: even if they can't participate, they come and they see

843
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: it and they have a visualization of it. And you know,

844
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: I've walked skid row with the kids, you know, and

845
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: I've walked you know, many different places where it's like,

846
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: I want you to see that people don't live the

847
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: same way you live. And you've been very blessed, and

848
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to understand that at times that's gonna

849
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: be a burden for you because you're not gonna have

850
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: the grit and the toughness that other people have had

851
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: to strive through. So you're gonna have to be aware

852
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: of it, and you're gonna have to acknowledge it and

853
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: be willing to accept it and come from a place

854
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: of like, you know what, that is who I am

855
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: and I did grow up this way. But how can

856
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: I be a part of a solution? How can I

857
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: be a part of helping people and always being willing

858
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: to be in that mindset. I think that's the thing

859
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: I've been most proud of. And people say, what's your

860
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: proudest thing for me? Right now, it's my kid's hearts

861
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: for other people. Some of the biggest things we've done

862
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: in LA, whether it be with homelessness or different things,

863
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: where actually ideas that my kids came up with and

864
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: things they wanted to do, and I just trying to

865
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: found a way to put them into action. And so

866
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: that to me is where it's really important. Is I

867
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: want my kids to understand we need to have those

868
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: conversations at our dinner table, and you need to feel

869
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: open and free to ask anything you want to ask,

870
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: and if it's a tough combo, it'll be a tough combo.

871
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: But I want you to have a full transparency on

872
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: what life's all about. And um, you know what. To me,

873
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: that'll be my proudest moment if they, you know, grow

874
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: up to be the kind of people that they hope

875
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: to be, and that obviously about you know, their mother

876
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: and I hope they'll be. It's it gets better when

877
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: they get older. I have a seventeen year old and

878
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: we remember taking her on our college trip to Howard.

879
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully I want her to go to Howard, but it's

880
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: wants that he wants that I do. It's like a

881
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: different world, you know what I'm saying that That's what

882
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: I feel like when I when I took her there.

883
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: But seeing my daughter at seventeen and what her mom

884
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: and I are teaching or have taught her, I only

885
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: got another year with her before she's out, and she

886
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, she leaves the nest. So it's it's funny

887
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: that you say that because Rome's got four kids. I

888
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: have four kids. You got four kids too, right, yep? Yeah,

889
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: and just and they're all so different. But you're trying

890
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: to plant seeds in them to be open minded and

891
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: to care for people, to love for people. So yeah,

892
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: it gets it gets better the older that they're getting. Man,

893
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: it's oh man, you're you're gonna have a blast at seventeen.

894
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: I'm loving being a girl dad. It's it's one of

895
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: it's like the best job ever being a being a

896
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: girl dad. I love it. But we'll get back into that.

897
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: We'll tell more stories about our kids. Right now, we

898
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: got to pay some bills, so y'all hold on for

899
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: about thirty seconds. We'll be right back. We're back, all right.

900
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: We have my man, Andrew Whitworth right here. Tons of accolades.

901
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I still got one in my back pocket

902
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna wait till the end to throw out.

903
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: I want to know if he knows this last nugget

904
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: that I found out about this young man. Um. All right,

905
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: So I love to ask this question because I have

906
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: my own unique experience, and everybody on this podcast does

907
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: and hopefully some listeners do is to do as well.

908
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: But what was your first welcome to the NFL moment?

909
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: You're like, WHOA, Okay, this is the league. I think

910
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: I had multiple of them, and playing in Cincinnati in

911
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. Uh, we had an interesting team,

912
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: let's put it that way. Uh, you know, there's some

913
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: wild characters in that in that locker room. So I

914
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: had a lot of them, everybody from Ojo and uh

915
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Whosh and Dexter Jackson and you know, I mean, lord,

916
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: we we had guys from everywhere. But uh, you know,

917
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: I met some really cool guys. Realized I was no

918
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: longer in the SEC anymore, and it's a totally different world.

919
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: But I think by like on the field moment was

920
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers my rookie year as my first start as

921
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: a left tackle in the NFL. I think it was

922
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Week five, played Peppers and Mike Rucker and Mike Rutger

923
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: and Julius Peppers. At that time, I think, like, you know,

924
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: the last four years had like eighty something sacks is

925
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: the most by a duo, you know, in the league

926
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: at that time. And I had a play like late

927
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: in the game, we're beating them, and I know we'll

928
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: call it lucky, just so I'm trying to be nice

929
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: because Mike calls me out, so I pancake Mike Rucker

930
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: and I stood up. I'm just like I'm feeling good.

931
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: So I talked some smack. We call the next play

932
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: the same play, and I rised real quick what it

933
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: was like to be a veteran the NFL and they

934
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: know exactly what's coming. And he literally just ejects me

935
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: into the running back like tackles him in the backfield,

936
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: super embarrassing. I'm literally just like, all right, man, I'm

937
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna learn just I'm gonna hold on a little bit, like,

938
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, I had one good play. I kind of

939
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: lost my tongue a little bit, and Mike putting me

940
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: on my place, and I realized that I was I

941
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: was dealing with grown men. So you know what, I

942
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: found that out real fast. So when you play sports

943
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: typically I don't know, six to seven, three hundred plus pounds,

944
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: you always to me, you look like you're always a

945
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: big kid. So they automatically just like, oh whitworth, Yeah,

946
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: big kid, put them off asive line, Yeah you get chow,

947
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: or they just put you in a position. If you

948
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: could have picked a position to play regardless of your size,

949
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: what position would have been. I think growing up, I

950
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: always thought I was going to be a tight end

951
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: or defensive end. I mean, I told you I loved basketball.

952
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: That's actually what I played up until my senior year

953
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: in high school. Um. I always thought of myself as

954
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: being a tight end. Um I thought I'd be that,

955
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: and then I kind of you know, like Mike Zimmer

956
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: would say, I always had like a defensive mentality for

957
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: a lineman. Um. I love like effort and running and

958
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: just chasing people down and stuff like, Um, you know

959
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: it's bad because it's an interception, but I used to

960
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: love what we threw an interception, Like I want to

961
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: be the one to get over there and make a

962
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: tackle and being to be in the mix right people. Yeah,

963
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, and I had I tried that one time,

964
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, that was like my mindset. But

965
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: you know what's funny, it's like how I chose my college.

966
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: I was an LSU. I was a Louisiana kid, but

967
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: I never really wanted to go to LSU. I always

968
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: wanted to go to Florida Ucas Spurrier had like a

969
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: lot of big tight ends and you know, back Fred

970
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: Taylor and all them cats. So that's why I want

971
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: to go. And every college recruited me that way, Like,

972
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: hey man, you know, Jason Peters was at Arkansas. You

973
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: had a lot of being tight end college football, and

974
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: then I Nick Saban gets hired by LSU my senior

975
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: year in high school, and he walks in the door

976
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: and it's like, you're not going to be a tight end.

977
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: As soon as you give in to being a left tackle,

978
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have an unbelievable career. And I was like, man,

979
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: I respect the heck guy. This guy he just told

980
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: me what I didn't want to hear and then at

981
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: the same time told me what I was going to accomplish.

982
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: And so I like, for me, that just flipped a switch.

983
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: And then the next day I called Florida and told

984
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 1: him I wasn't coming there and I was gonna become

985
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: an LSU Tiger and the rest is history. But I

986
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: was that you wore number eighty nine. I'm like, we're

987
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: played was number eighty nine in high school? You were

988
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: eighty nine eighty nine as a sophomore. That was my

989
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: sophomore year, first time playing. Then ninety nine is ninety

990
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: nine as a junior because I played defense too, And

991
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: then I went to seven when they finally moved me

992
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: to offensive line by senior year seventy four, So that

993
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: was my That was my ending. But one for one. Yeah,

994
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: there's another one. Come on now, yo, yeah yeah, play that?

995
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, play that next one another we'll get on

996
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: the board first. Oh yeah, come on here. You got

997
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: to make sure you you notice who was supposed to

998
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: be covering me on that play. That's my dog right there,

999
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark lsu brother. Uh. You know, I never let

1000
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: him live that down. I remind him, you know, at

1001
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: least every couple of years about me being open in

1002
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: the end zone right there. So that that was a

1003
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: cool moment actually though. Yeah, that was my That was

1004
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: my birthday and my wife was expecting our twins. That

1005
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: was our first kids. Um, we ended up having them

1006
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: in February, but that was actually all my birthday. First

1007
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: drive of the game, I think what's cool about that one.

1008
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I haven't done the research yet. I'd love to know

1009
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 1: that was the only offensive touchdown scored in that game.

1010
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So I'd love to know how many NFL

1011
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: games and offensive lineman has been the only offensive touchdown

1012
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: scored in the game. I probably would say none. I'm

1013
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: here we go, come home, baby, let's go. I'm goin.

1014
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get I'm just trying to get

1015
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: another plaque for my wall for podcast. You own that

1016
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: one all day, boss, That's that's that's so good. All right,

1017
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: here's another one. So we did a little bit deeper

1018
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: research too as well. You told us that. And this

1019
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: is on your Twitter again, all right, your top three

1020
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: old school hip hop artists. And when I saw this,

1021
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: I was literally like, tell them, tell show me you

1022
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: from Louisiana without telling you from Louisiana. And this is

1023
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: it right here. You have a screenshot of your top

1024
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: three old school rappers. Are Notorious Big, which everybody loved

1025
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: at the time, and you're more East Coast, which I

1026
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: get because you're in Louisiana. You weren't on two Pop.

1027
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: You're on the Biggie and then Mystical and Master Peak,

1028
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: which here I had many I have. I said all

1029
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: they needed was Silt the shocker bro and we were

1030
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: complaining that was it. That was it too? Yes, Hey,

1031
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: look you know what I ghetto d that was the first.

1032
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: I think I was the first CD. Like I actually

1033
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: went to the store and bought myself in high school.

1034
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: I remember as a freshman with my own money. Uh

1035
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: so you know what that was a freshman year. I

1036
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: believe eighth grade year. But yeah, I mean that was

1037
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: I grew up on master peaking those guys what everyone did?

1038
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Break them off? Something that wasn't I wasn't left hit

1039
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: in what ninety ninety nine, two thousand? Yeah, when when

1040
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: when the hot boys was hot? You know, you really

1041
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: mess people up in Louisiana is my freshman year in

1042
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: college is screwed right, Like, so I started playing that stuff.

1043
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: Guys are like this, I'm like that bro, June June

1044
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, Like, come on, you own. You go ten

1045
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: Westerton East and you're driving either way, you put you

1046
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: twenty seventh throwing and it will go for about twenty

1047
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's about thirty five minutes of freestyle

1048
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: and roll. Right. I had a couple of Texas teammates,

1049
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 1: so I've never heard screw in Alabama. Until Texas guys

1050
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: came in. I was like, what is this. They're like, Oh,

1051
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: it's screwed like it's everything topped the screw. So I'm

1052
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: from Texas and that's literally from eighth grade whatever. Once

1053
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: I learned about it, you know what I'm saying to

1054
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: Ah Sound the North side of Houston, Man that was

1055
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: I could play it right now, but I know we

1056
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: don't have the license to play, so they're gonna blu

1057
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: bleep it out. But I think I like you that

1058
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: much more now because you just said you all about

1059
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: June twenty seven. Oh come on, man, oh my god,

1060
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: I got it. I got I got the slow jams.

1061
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: I got all the slow jams. They're called actions, I

1062
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: got them all, baby, Come on, they're called f actions

1063
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: as UC screwed up click big mode. You don't have

1064
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: you don't have a Howard? Yeah, Dina Howard T shirt,

1065
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: a shirt and my panties on. You really do yourself.

1066
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that you're really this song these Oh

1067
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: my god, this is you. You're my new best friend.

1068
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: I think we just became best Did we just become

1069
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: best friends right now? We justcame best friends right now?

1070
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is like our step brothers moment.

1071
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: That is so dope. I don't even know what the

1072
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: next question I was gonna ask. We started talking about

1073
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: screw and I just got so excited. That's dope. So

1074
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: um oh yeah, yeah, Mount Rushmore, nol Rushmore. We asked

1075
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the guests on this show, Um, if

1076
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: you could pick four, only four people to pick or

1077
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: put on your Mount Rushmore. Who would those people be?

1078
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: And don't have to be all athletics. It's just it's

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00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: somebody who had some influence, someone that you love, somebody

1080
00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: that was a mentor. That's tough, yow uh you know,

1081
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: I wanna stick. I wanna here's the thing, all right,

1082
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna make it complicated because I'm complicated.

1083
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: So it's just like food, it's like music, it's like

1084
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: anything else. I don't like. I don't like to disrespect

1085
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: people when I talking about a certain genre of things.

1086
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: So I want to make my own genre of Mountain Rushmore.

1087
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cheat. So my Mount Rushmore of sports, all right,

1088
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: my Mount Rushmore Sports. I'm gonna put up Michael Jordan's

1089
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky. This might as well be what

1090
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: was the little show when we were kids on the USA?

1091
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah right now? Uh So I'm gonna on Michael Jordan,

1092
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: Gretzky Tiger Woods. And I think for me, just because

1093
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: I grew up, like I said, where I did, I

1094
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: was a massive fans guy Nolan Ryan. Because I'm gonna

1095
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: tell you why, man, Nolan Ryan was only an awesome pitcher.

1096
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: But I was actually at the game when he woked

1097
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: Robin Ventura when he charged them out. My dad. I

1098
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: always wanted to see him play, Yeah, and I was

1099
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: actually in the stands uh you know he was. He was.

1100
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: He was a baseball player that was a tough guy

1101
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: too at the same time. So that's the only reason

1102
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: he's on there. That's it, just because for me my

1103
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: world as a little kid. I don't know how old

1104
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: I was then, but watching him, I thought he was

1105
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: man just unbelievable. So I put him on there just

1106
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: for that. For sports. That's my one, my by one guy.

1107
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: Plenty of guys probably deserve it more, but he's my guy. Okay,

1108
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: all right, before we get you out of here, I

1109
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: gotta have you. I'm gonna hit you at one one

1110
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: quick question, and you gotta maybe just tell me this

1111
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: because I don't know this. Peanut asked Peanut this earlier.

1112
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: Peanut and I have never been ejected out of the game.

1113
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: I must know with What did you do to get

1114
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: ejected out of the game versus the Oakland Raiders the

1115
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: one time it happened twice? You were too nice? You

1116
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't give twice. I got h In two thousand and eight,

1117
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: we were oz and eight. Uh. We played the Jacksonville

1118
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Saturday, the Saturday before the game, I

1119
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: finally just reached that point in your career where you

1120
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: lost it. And I was like, lit lit our offense up,

1121
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: You're going to walk through on Saturday, because I was like, man,

1122
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm done with it, Like I'm done with

1123
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: how like you guys are just okay with losing. We're okay,

1124
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: we're getting our face kicked in, Like yeah, I'm done

1125
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: with it. Like I've never in my life been somebody

1126
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: who was somebody's you know what. And I was like,

1127
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: I just it ain't gonna happen anymore. And so we

1128
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: go out in the game. We're up in the game,

1129
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: and Chad like being Chad and t J like they

1130
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: finally like we're having a good moment, they're having a

1131
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: good day, and they start chewing at the d line

1132
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars and it turns into, you know, everybody's

1133
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: at each other's throats and I'm facing big bad John

1134
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: John Henderson nine six nine and three ninety pounds whatever

1135
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: the heck he was he's a monster. He made me

1136
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: look small, and we got after it, like we started

1137
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: getting into it, and the next thing you know, we

1138
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: snapped the play and me and him just started throwing

1139
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: and we ripped each other's helmets off. We fight all

1140
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: the way across the field. Both get ejected. But as

1141
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the field, I guess Cincinnati have anything else

1142
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: to cheer about. They're chanting to my name. As I'm

1143
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: leaving it, I'm like, there's actually a picture. I'm like

1144
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: pointing at my jersey leaving the field, And I'll never

1145
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: forget after that moment, like I was in the tunnel,

1146
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: I waited for the guys and like I was the

1147
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: captain the Cincinnati Bengals from that moment on, like that

1148
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: was that was it. That was the moment, Like you

1149
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: t J. Husmin's Ada gave me a hug and he's like, man,

1150
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: you said stuff yesterday and you backed it up today

1151
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: and that's like the greatest respect I could give you.

1152
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: And so after that moment, that's what it was. And

1153
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: then the Oakland one was Lamar Houston I think sacked

1154
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: Andy on like a dead play, like one of those

1155
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: where you know they blew it dead and then he

1156
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: still went through it the sack and kind of like

1157
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: superplexed Andy, and so I ran over there to like

1158
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: shove him. And it's kind of was that one was

1159
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: really less of a fight and more of a I

1160
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: shoved him. They had a veteran D line, yeah, and

1161
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: their veteran D line attacked and it was like me

1162
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: and all their D line. The best part of that

1163
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: story is that we get kicked out if that's when

1164
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals young, because I had a young offensive

1165
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: line at that time. They found out who Melissa Witworth

1166
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: was because she stood in the tunnel and my wife

1167
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: ain't going on no Twitter. If she got a problem

1168
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: with somebody, she coming face to face. She stood in

1169
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 1: the tunnel and waited for everyone in. They'll tell you,

1170
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: every one of these young linemen like you like you,

1171
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: next time my husband and I fight, you better jump

1172
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: in that pile. Like then, she was lighting them up.

1173
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: It was hilarious and only the way she can. She

1174
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: loves some football and she's got some fire to her too,

1175
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: So she was letting them young guys know like that

1176
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: ain't how you do it? Like you always have you

1177
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: get in there, you know, they were nervous. They were

1178
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: all like standing like looking like yeah, apparently not like

1179
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: they were nervous guys, but uh, you know what it was.

1180
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: It was it was a fun day because it's a

1181
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: cool memory for her and those guys because they love

1182
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: her and grew to love her and they always appreciate

1183
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: that moment you checked them a little bit. You know what.

1184
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: That is a very teachable moment right there, and that's

1185
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: what we do on this podcast. Here, I'm gonna teach

1186
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: you one guy's one more thing and we're gonna let

1187
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: wit work. Get up out of here. So did you

1188
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: know that you are second in all time in the

1189
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: NC Double A as far in Division One in career starts.

1190
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yes, you have fifty two career

1191
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: starts in your career in D one football. That is

1192
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: second all time to only Derek Straight who had fifty

1193
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: three cornerback at Oklahoma. So I'm glad I got to

1194
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: teach you something today as well. So there we go.

1195
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: They no doubt man, No doubt, man, Thank you for

1196
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: blessing us with your time coming on here. Man, you're

1197
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: just as cool as the other side of the pillow man.

1198
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: The same way it was the very first time I

1199
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: actually got to meet you, um back all the way

1200
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: back when when we were in So man, I appreciate

1201
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: you for being who you are. Continue to be that

1202
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: light man, and we all will shine as long as

1203
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: we're around people like you. So thank you for that. Hey,

1204
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks, no doubt. Man. All right, well

1205
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: look let me let me let me get us up

1206
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: out of here. So all of our listeners, I want

1207
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: to make sure I think all of our listeners for

1208
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: always tuning in. Also, I want to ask you to

1209
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: hit review, give us a follow, continue to tell a friend,

1210
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: to tell a friend to tell a friend. Anywhere you

1211
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: pick up your or you listen to your podcast, whether

1212
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: it's iHeartRadio or the Apple podcast app, thank you so much.

1213
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: Continue to listen to us, and we'll see you next time. Peace,