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Speaker 1: and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette
Speaker 1: and I am an editor at how stuff works dot com.
Speaker 1: Sitting across from me, as usual, is senior writer Jonathan Strickland, Mr.
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Speaker 1: You know that quote was positively magical. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: just joined Potter Moore, so I had to. I know,
Speaker 1: I just gave it away Chucks. So today, tech stuff fans,
Speaker 1: we're all gonna go on a little Google Drive. Oh cool?
Speaker 1: Are We're gonna talk about those robotic cars that don't
Speaker 1: need drivers except you know, when they're sitting in the
Speaker 1: seat and they watched the car where you're in somebody else. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's not what my notes are on. I was
Speaker 1: talking about Google Drive, you know, the cloud storage Google
Speaker 1: Drive announced on a Well, this will be a fun podcast.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see what our notes show. Um No, really,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Google Drive today. And the day
Speaker 1: we're recording this podcast. Just in case you guys are curious,
Speaker 1: I know that you'll be listening to it quite a
Speaker 1: while afterwards because we record so early in advance. But
Speaker 1: it's April seven, the day we're recording this, So it's
Speaker 1: just three days after Google finally officially announced and launched
Speaker 1: Google Drive. Right. It was sort of a one of
Speaker 1: those closely guarded secrets like that everyone knew about, and
Speaker 1: everyone knew about like the iPad for two years before
Speaker 1: it was released. Right. Yeah, people have been talking about
Speaker 1: Google having a cloud storage service for for a couple
Speaker 1: of years now, so this was and even Google made
Speaker 1: reference to that. But before we really get into what
Speaker 1: Google Drive is, we should probably talk about what cloud
Speaker 1: storage is in general and why it's important. Uh, cloud
Speaker 1: storage is pretty it's a pretty simple concept. The idea
Speaker 1: is that you can store data on servers in the cloud.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about using someone else's computers to store
Speaker 1: your information, and you can access the information over the
Speaker 1: Internet using some sort of interface, usually web based, and
Speaker 1: they call it the cloud, of course, because the Internet
Speaker 1: is a nebulous group of machines and it's just sort
Speaker 1: of out there, always changing like a cloud. So yeah, so,
Speaker 1: and and the idea being that it's also kind of
Speaker 1: like a cloud in the sense that you can access
Speaker 1: it from any machine that has that Internet capability. Right,
Speaker 1: it may require a special app depending upon the type
Speaker 1: of cloud storage. Uh, because not everything is web based.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of different desktop clients that you
Speaker 1: can have that will allow you to store information to
Speaker 1: a cloud drive. So it lives on your computer's desktop
Speaker 1: as if it were a regular file folder. Right, So
Speaker 1: you think of your your regular hard drive folders that
Speaker 1: you would go into to look at various files, like
Speaker 1: you might store all your pictures in in a pictures
Speaker 1: folder and all your videos and a videos folder, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Um, a cloud storage drive might show
Speaker 1: up on your desktop as if it were a regular
Speaker 1: folder on your computer, but instead of living on your computer,
Speaker 1: the information gets sent over the Internet to a a
Speaker 1: remote machine and it's stored on that machine. And there
Speaker 1: is an identifier that links that particular file to you
Speaker 1: as a user, a registered user of that service. And uh,
Speaker 1: in fact, when I say it lives on one machine,
Speaker 1: that's not entirely true. Almost every cloud service, in fact,
Speaker 1: every reputable cloud service out there uses redundant measures so
Speaker 1: that the file is on several different machines in case
Speaker 1: one machine fails. I'm real sorry, I only had one
Speaker 1: machine and it went down. Yeah, that would not go
Speaker 1: over so well. Uh. Jester's cloud service, Jester's cloud service. Yea,
Speaker 1: Sester's never really been up on that whole. I think
Speaker 1: I need to. I think I need to register that
Speaker 1: domain now, Chester's clouds. We gotta hair a cumula nimbus um.
Speaker 1: So the yeah, the idea is that obviously that you
Speaker 1: would be able to offload storage from your native device,
Speaker 1: especially if you are one of those people who has
Speaker 1: lots of different devices and you want to be able
Speaker 1: to access the same information no matter which device you're using.
Speaker 1: Because in the old days, back before a cloud storage
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, yeah, not that long ago,
Speaker 1: you you only had a few different options. You could
Speaker 1: save something to a physical medium, so a disk for example,
Speaker 1: compact disc or a floppy disc way back in the day,
Speaker 1: or a thumb drive something like that, and then you
Speaker 1: could pour that over to another device, pull it up
Speaker 1: from the physical medium, and then work on it that way,
Speaker 1: save it back to the physical medium and then go
Speaker 1: back and you know, it, it was a little cumbersome.
Speaker 1: It also meant that you would often end up with
Speaker 1: lots of duplicate copies of a particular file, and if
Speaker 1: people made changes, then you had to figure all, right,
Speaker 1: which one of these copies has the most recent, most
Speaker 1: relevant changes, and then I have to get rid of
Speaker 1: all the others or else I'm going to confuse them. All. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to go through and you you end up
Speaker 1: looking at creation dates and when things are modified. Wait,
Speaker 1: that was done at nine, Okay, I can get rid
Speaker 1: of that one. And it takes forever, and and it's
Speaker 1: particularly difficult if you have more than one collaborator. Right, So,
Speaker 1: if Chris and I were working on a document, it
Speaker 1: would be frustrating for us to try and and we're
Speaker 1: both working on copies of a document, we're both making changes,
Speaker 1: be very frustrating to cohlate those changes and figure out
Speaker 1: you know, which ones are relevant and which ones are
Speaker 1: the most recent. Uh, and may very well be that
Speaker 1: a change I make makes a later change that Chris
Speaker 1: makes irrelevant. So the idea behind cloud storage is it's
Speaker 1: not and it's not always connected, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of work around collaboration in cloud storage so that if
Speaker 1: you have multiple people who need access to a particular file,
Speaker 1: you are able to share that file across several instances,
Speaker 1: and you might even be able to have multiple people
Speaker 1: work on that file at the same time, and those
Speaker 1: changes will be reflected more or less in real time
Speaker 1: for each person. So that way, if Chris Word did
Speaker 1: make a change to a sentence within that file, I
Speaker 1: could actually see him making that more or less in
Speaker 1: real time. This is particularly true with Google Service because
Speaker 1: Google Drive has been very tightly integrated with Google Docs.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's kind of superseded Google Docs in a way.
Speaker 1: But other services also offer similar features. UM And just
Speaker 1: to clear things up my my joke about a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, of course that the cloud is uh
Speaker 1: much older than that. We've been using variations on cloud
Speaker 1: services for many years now. UM. In fact, I don't
Speaker 1: think I think it really proceeds labeling things as cloud,
Speaker 1: which is really sort of a convenient marketing term for
Speaker 1: for services such as these. UM it gives you it
Speaker 1: when people mention the cloud. It it basically serves as
Speaker 1: a a hint to say, hey, the materials or software
Speaker 1: is being stored on servers on the Internet, not on
Speaker 1: your computer. So it's it's sort of a short marketing
Speaker 1: shorthand for these services. But yeah, I mean we've talked
Speaker 1: about Google Docs many times. I mean it predates the
Speaker 1: beginning of our podcast, so um. And there were many
Speaker 1: services using those kinds of uh, those kinds of technologies before,
Speaker 1: but in recent uh, in recent years, there have been
Speaker 1: several services that take advantage of cloud storage. Specifically, um,
Speaker 1: not simply to store the software as a service, you know,
Speaker 1: or or the documents that you use, say in Google Docs, um,
Speaker 1: but to upload and download your own file so that
Speaker 1: you don't have to use a physical medium. You don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about losing that that flash drive you
Speaker 1: carry in your pocket or your bag. Um, you don't
Speaker 1: have to walk a disk from one place to another
Speaker 1: or worry about it if you want to, say, work
Speaker 1: on a graduate school assignment on your lunch break at work.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who would have done that at
Speaker 1: how stuff works, except maybe me a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Or you just happen to have like a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of really powerful magnets nearby and you don't want to
Speaker 1: use magnetic storage on turn it, I had my flash
Speaker 1: drive in my pocket when I went for the m
Speaker 1: R I I was thinking, I was thinking of the
Speaker 1: old old floppy disk days. I actually did lose data
Speaker 1: on a floppy disk because uh, floppy disk had a
Speaker 1: little bit of a close encounter with a magnet and
Speaker 1: that was enough to ruin it. Yeah. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean these these services were being marketed specifically as
Speaker 1: a hey, you can store stuff here, and and um,
Speaker 1: the services in question, many of them came from from
Speaker 1: the little guys. We're not talking about Apple or Google
Speaker 1: or Facebook or Amazon or Microsoft. These were all independent
Speaker 1: vendors and they would offer and they still do offer
Speaker 1: a free tier of service for a small amount of storage,
Speaker 1: and then you could upgrade for a certain price per
Speaker 1: month you could get more storage, and for more than
Speaker 1: that you get more storage. And they they basically would
Speaker 1: work that out in businesses. If you really needed a
Speaker 1: whole lot of cloud storage, um, you know, you could
Speaker 1: do that. But gradually the big players have been getting
Speaker 1: into the game. And that's why, uh, everybody has been
Speaker 1: expecting Google to do it, because I mean, hey, if
Speaker 1: anybody's got server storage and data centers, it's Google. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It turns out that storage is relatively inexpensive, so very
Speaker 1: very inexpensive over the last few years, right, So, so
Speaker 1: for a business to enter into that and just purchase
Speaker 1: a lot of different servers specifically to save information from
Speaker 1: from users, Uh, it's not as big a barrier as
Speaker 1: some other forms of internet based businesses. However, it does
Speaker 1: mean that you have to create these systems in place
Speaker 1: for things like security. You need to have you know,
Speaker 1: the important things for cloud computing involved security accessibility. So
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that whatever your system is,
Speaker 1: it's easy to access on multiple platforms. So that means
Speaker 1: you want people to be able to access it via PC, mac, smartphone, tablet,
Speaker 1: lots of different devices can connect to the Internet now,
Speaker 1: so you want to be able to give your users
Speaker 1: the freedom to be able to access the information over
Speaker 1: as many of platforms as possible. You know, the more
Speaker 1: convenient your services, the more valuable it is to the customer.
Speaker 1: So so security and accessibility and uh, just that that
Speaker 1: whole accessibility slash convenience and just the whole idea of
Speaker 1: giving a certain tier for free so that you you
Speaker 1: show people how valuable the services now and and we
Speaker 1: should clear this up. Cloud storage is not necessarily all
Speaker 1: about backing up your data. Although people have used it
Speaker 1: for that kind of purpose, it's really more about, well,
Speaker 1: there's certain documents or certain files that you may want
Speaker 1: to have stored in the cloud because you want to
Speaker 1: have easy access across multiple devices. You may want to
Speaker 1: share that with other people, and it's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to do that when it's on a web based drive
Speaker 1: than it would be on your own computers. So let's
Speaker 1: say that I've shot a video and I've got this
Speaker 1: video living on my computer, emailing that video out to
Speaker 1: all the different people I want to see it. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't want to upload it to something like YouTube.
Speaker 1: Maybe I just want to send that directly to a
Speaker 1: few people. Well, for example, what if you were trying
Speaker 1: to preview a video with the people you were working
Speaker 1: collaborating with it on, right, exactly, you're not ready to
Speaker 1: make a public yeah exactly. Yeah, you might need to
Speaker 1: still do some edits. You may you may just be
Speaker 1: looking at this with your friends and say just just
Speaker 1: doesn't feel snappy enough. Do you have any suggestions? So
Speaker 1: in that case, yeah, you wouldn't want to necessarily uploaded
Speaker 1: to YouTube. I mean you could upload YouTube and make
Speaker 1: it private and then send out the link. But but
Speaker 1: if you just would rather skip that step and and
Speaker 1: just keep it in pre production mode, UM, then a
Speaker 1: cloud drive would be very useful. You could send out,
Speaker 1: you could share the link to that file within your
Speaker 1: cloud drive, and then other people could go to your
Speaker 1: cloud drive and view that one particular file without having
Speaker 1: access to anything else that's in your cloud drive. So
Speaker 1: all they would get is access to whatever file you
Speaker 1: permitted them access to. Now, you might be able to
Speaker 1: set some permissions on files so that they are publicly available,
Speaker 1: which means that anyone who could visit your drive would
Speaker 1: be able to see that particular file, But in most cases,
Speaker 1: I think people just have special permissions for particular folks.
Speaker 1: And then and of course you can always say that
Speaker 1: where only you have access to it, there's no need
Speaker 1: to you know, you're not forced to collaborate, right. So
Speaker 1: those are the that's the basics around cloud drives. And
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I think cloud drives are
Speaker 1: getting more important is that you're starting to see, right
Speaker 1: about the time we're recording this podcast, in particular, you're
Speaker 1: starting to see some some devices come out besides ones
Speaker 1: that come from a company company that rhymes with Shmapple
Speaker 1: that that don't have expand memory as a feature. So
Speaker 1: so in other words, there's no slot for you to
Speaker 1: put a memory card into. Well, we've already talked about
Speaker 1: ultra books, um, which don't have in general, don't have
Speaker 1: optical drives. You know they they save space, save energy
Speaker 1: um by not having that. And you know where you
Speaker 1: have a limited amount of storage on board. So you
Speaker 1: could use something like a flash drive or a portable
Speaker 1: drive where you have a connection, um, but you you
Speaker 1: do need something to store files on otherwise you know
Speaker 1: you're really not going to be able to create stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: although granted most ultra books probably have significantly more storage
Speaker 1: on board than your typical at least you're free tier
Speaker 1: of cloud storage out there. Oh yes, definitely. But things
Speaker 1: like smartphones, I mean, here's an example. I'll give a
Speaker 1: real world example because again this is a recording this
Speaker 1: and this phone was just announced on T Mobile was
Speaker 1: the HTC one S. It's an Android based phone running
Speaker 1: ice Cream Sandwich. It has sixteen gigabytes on board memory. Alright,
Speaker 1: sixteen gigs on board memory, No flash drive, no, no
Speaker 1: smart card drive at all, So you can't add more
Speaker 1: memory to it. That sixteen gigs is all you get. However,
Speaker 1: ht C one S also comes with a trial period
Speaker 1: with Dropbox, which is another cloud based storage system, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about Dropbox a little bit later in
Speaker 1: this podcast. So in this case, you're talking about a
Speaker 1: smart phone that is encouraging you to use cloud based
Speaker 1: storage rather than some sort of physical media. So that
Speaker 1: way you have this this your information is backed up
Speaker 1: into the cloud, and theoretically when you are ready to
Speaker 1: upgrade your phone or switch phones, or maybe you lose
Speaker 1: your phone you have to get a new phone, you
Speaker 1: would still have access to that information because it exists
Speaker 1: on the cloud, not on a physical device in your hand.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's on a physical device, it's just
Speaker 1: that physical device belongs to some other company. So that's
Speaker 1: one of the other reasons why cloud storch is so
Speaker 1: important is that we're starting to see manufacturers kind of
Speaker 1: offload features onto the cloud so that they don't include
Speaker 1: them in the phone itself. It helps a little bit
Speaker 1: with phone design because it means that you don't need
Speaker 1: to build in that feature. You can actually make your
Speaker 1: phones slimmer and sleeker. I mean, Apple has been doing
Speaker 1: this for ages, but other companies are starting to do
Speaker 1: the same sort of thing. Now, that's enough about cloud
Speaker 1: storage in general, I think, unless is there anything else
Speaker 1: that we need to talk about. There was one other
Speaker 1: thing I didn't want to uh to pass over it
Speaker 1: too much is UM. And this is something we've visited
Speaker 1: several times too, is the aspect of privacy. UM. You know,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when we were talking about
Speaker 1: this UM, you know, when it was starting to become
Speaker 1: a public topic. You know, hey, what is cloud storage?
Speaker 1: What it was cloud computing? UM. You know, people didn't
Speaker 1: really get that, and then when you explain it, they'd
Speaker 1: start thinking about the documents that you would store up
Speaker 1: there and privacy what if somebody hacks in UM. I
Speaker 1: think it's obvious at this point that the convenience, UM
Speaker 1: and accessibility of cloud storage has made it we were
Speaker 1: We've gone so far now that I don't think we're
Speaker 1: going to go back UM. But it's obviously. I just
Speaker 1: think it's interesting to note that at this point we
Speaker 1: are you know, there are things that we look at,
Speaker 1: you know, whether this this particular company is more likely
Speaker 1: to have good security and privacy than the other company.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, that's it's the security of these cloud
Speaker 1: storage uh services has become sort of a given. Oh well,
Speaker 1: you know, if they're going to offer this, they better
Speaker 1: be offering security because I'm going to use the service
Speaker 1: and you know, that's something I look for before I
Speaker 1: do that, so that that doesn't even seem that seems
Speaker 1: like a given now when before people are going I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to do this or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit about Google's approach to
Speaker 1: privacy and security. In fact, we will have to because
Speaker 1: there is a controversy that we we will have to address.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's get into the basics
Speaker 1: of Google Drive. So it is built directly into Google Docs. Now,
Speaker 1: so Google Docs the if you were to open up
Speaker 1: a Google Docs account, so which is just your regular
Speaker 1: Google account, that's what it's attached to. So if you
Speaker 1: have a Google account, congratulations, you have a Google Docs account.
Speaker 1: You can go to Google Docs and create a document,
Speaker 1: whether that's a word document, word being, word processing document
Speaker 1: not where it is in Microsoft word, but a word
Speaker 1: processing document, presentation, spreadsheet, you know, all the basic types
Speaker 1: of office documents. Google has the those as features. If
Speaker 1: you were to create one and save it, it would
Speaker 1: save it into your Google Drive account and you would
Speaker 1: automatically get the the base free tier, which for Google
Speaker 1: Drive is five gigabytes of free storage. And the nice
Speaker 1: thing about this is that that doesn't count any of
Speaker 1: the documents in your Google Docs, so it doesn't know
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's interesting. That's good to know,
Speaker 1: uh the now. What you can also do is you
Speaker 1: can download a client onto your desktop that allows you
Speaker 1: to drag and drop files from your computer into your
Speaker 1: Google Drive so that you can easily port over. If
Speaker 1: you've got, say, uh, photo album on your computer, and
Speaker 1: you like the photo album and you want to keep it,
Speaker 1: but you don't really want it taking up space on
Speaker 1: your local hard drive, you could copy it, or not
Speaker 1: copy it, but move it over to your Google Drive
Speaker 1: and it would store there. It would have you have
Speaker 1: a folder within your Google Drive where you could access that,
Speaker 1: and you could access it with any web connected device.
Speaker 1: That at least any web connected device, either through the
Speaker 1: the web system or depending on the device, you might
Speaker 1: have a dedicated app that would let you access it.
Speaker 1: So for example, Google Drive, you can do that on
Speaker 1: PCs and max uh, and you can do it on
Speaker 1: Android phones and they're working on but at the recording
Speaker 1: of this podcast, they were working on an iOS app
Speaker 1: so that you would be able to access it easily
Speaker 1: through your iPhone or iPod Touch or iPad. And they
Speaker 1: also from what I understand, I did see an article
Speaker 1: on a Linux website the other day that was quite
Speaker 1: upset that there was not compatibility built in for Linux
Speaker 1: as in as in a and a dedicated application. From
Speaker 1: what I understand, they're working well too. Um. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're using Linux now and and you've
Speaker 1: probably already tried to use your your Drive with it.
Speaker 1: If you're you know, a Google customer, um, you can
Speaker 1: of course use the web version. Um. But but they're
Speaker 1: working on a dedicated app. From what I understand, that's
Speaker 1: that's the nice thing. Yeah, even if your your device
Speaker 1: doesn't have a dedicated app, you can still access Google
Speaker 1: Drive through the web portion like you open up a
Speaker 1: browser and you can go to Google Drive that way.
Speaker 1: It's not quite as convenient, it's not as user friendly.
Speaker 1: Uh So, I mean that's why everyone wants the app,
Speaker 1: because then you know, you bypass that step of having
Speaker 1: to go through the web. It's just like having an
Speaker 1: app on your phone access a web based email client
Speaker 1: so that you don't actually have to open up a
Speaker 1: browser and navigate to the email. You just open up
Speaker 1: the app and there you are, same sort of thing. Well,
Speaker 1: there's some other interesting aspects that are unique to to
Speaker 1: the Google Clown Drive because there's you know, like we said,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of different companies out there that
Speaker 1: offer comparable services, but they don't all have the same
Speaker 1: feature set. One of the things that sets Google apart
Speaker 1: is no surprise search. So let's say that you have
Speaker 1: a lot of files in your Google Drive. Let's say
Speaker 1: let's say that you are one of the people who, uh,
Speaker 1: you're you've got to upgrade your account because you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of data, and you've got lots of different
Speaker 1: kinds of files. You've got picture files, videos, text documents,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and scanned documents so maybe
Speaker 1: PDFs or other forms of scanned documents. You have it
Speaker 1: all in your Google Drive, and then one day you
Speaker 1: need a specific file and for the life that you
Speaker 1: can't remember why folder you saved it in, and you've
Speaker 1: got so many folders in this drive. It's going to
Speaker 1: take you forever to find it. This is something that
Speaker 1: does not happen on an infrequent basis at Shase Strickland Um,
Speaker 1: because I am very very good at filing things away safely,
Speaker 1: so safely I will never find them again. So Google
Speaker 1: Search is built into Google Drive, and they have gone
Speaker 1: so far as to start developing recognition software so that
Speaker 1: let's say that you've scanned in a lot of documents.
Speaker 1: Maybe you've got some old documents that are important to you,
Speaker 1: perhaps they're old family journals, and you've scanned the pictures
Speaker 1: and you put them into your Google Drive, and you think,
Speaker 1: there's this great document that my grandfather wrote that is
Speaker 1: pertinent to this blog post i'm posting. It would be
Speaker 1: awesome if I if I posted a picture of that page,
Speaker 1: but gosh, I can't remember where I saved it. Well,
Speaker 1: the image recognition software, it actually can scan the scanned
Speaker 1: documents and look for text. So if you type in
Speaker 1: and um string like you know that your your grandfather
Speaker 1: wrote about I'll give a real life example. Let's say
Speaker 1: my grandfather wrote about a massive tornado that completely devastated Gainesville, Georgia,
Speaker 1: which is true, really did happen? My grandfather was in
Speaker 1: a working in a mill at a time, and it
Speaker 1: ripped the roof off the mill. My grandfather was very
Speaker 1: lucky to get out. Um. So let's say that he
Speaker 1: wrote this great article about it, and I had scanned
Speaker 1: it in I could type in Gainesville, Tornado in my
Speaker 1: Google uh search for for the Google Drive, and it's
Speaker 1: going to actually look and scan the the physical documents,
Speaker 1: the ones that are just image files really and return
Speaker 1: those as well, which is kind of cool. It's not
Speaker 1: just scanning the text in your documents and scanning the images.
Speaker 1: They're also working on adding in the image recognition software
Speaker 1: that you can find it in in pro. It's like
Speaker 1: Google Goggles. So with Google Goggles, you can hold up
Speaker 1: a smartphone with a camera to a particular kind of
Speaker 1: uh objects sometimes like a landmark or whatever, and Google
Speaker 1: Goggles will use recognition software to try and identify what
Speaker 1: that is. Same sort of thing. Let's say that you've
Speaker 1: taken a bunch of pictures of the Washington Monument and
Speaker 1: then you think, oh, there's this great picture of the
Speaker 1: Washington Monument I want to use, and I don't remember
Speaker 1: where I put it. You can search Washington Monument and
Speaker 1: that image recognition software will include any images that Google
Speaker 1: identifies as the Washington Monument, uh and pulls it back
Speaker 1: even if you didn't title the picture that, So the
Speaker 1: picture could be titled something different. It couldn't just have
Speaker 1: the date or some random string of letters and numbers.
Speaker 1: But because that image recognition software is part of Google Search,
Speaker 1: it can pull that up as well, which is a
Speaker 1: really powerful tool. Now, Google does stress that both the
Speaker 1: image recognition software and the the scanning of of scanned
Speaker 1: files software both of that those technologies are in their
Speaker 1: early phases and may not work flawlessly. So uh, you know,
Speaker 1: mileage may vary essentially is what comes out of that.
Speaker 1: But that that is a differentiator is that you've got
Speaker 1: this amazing search tool. It turns out Google knows a
Speaker 1: thing or two about search. They've picked up a couple
Speaker 1: of tricks that that's really cool. They needed to work
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, no, they've they've got some good some
Speaker 1: good work there, and then they're also working there's there's
Speaker 1: all the collaborative features that you would get with Google Docs.
Speaker 1: So that's included with Google Drive. So assuming that people, uh,
Speaker 1: you know that you give access to certain files to people,
Speaker 1: they should be able to make edits and everything they're
Speaker 1: working on, including some other features as well. They've actually
Speaker 1: opened up the platform and they've created an API for
Speaker 1: for companies to add in their own features, so extensions
Speaker 1: and things. So you might be vocation programming interface. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you might be able eventually to do things like
Speaker 1: send facts from your Google Drive to a fax machine
Speaker 1: or to actually have edit videos within your Google Drive itself,
Speaker 1: so you're not just letting people view a video, but
Speaker 1: perhaps even edit videos within the drive using this third
Speaker 1: party application. But they're the the possibilities are nearly endless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, they they have already made
Speaker 1: partnerships with some of these companies that that Jonathan is
Speaker 1: alluding to UM for the launch of Google Drive and
Speaker 1: you can go. You can actually find it pretty easily
Speaker 1: when you go into your Google account that they have
Speaker 1: these uh, these applications that are ready to take advantage
Speaker 1: of this um it. As a matter of fact, UM
Speaker 1: there is ah some of them have UM special deals.
Speaker 1: Now that that's kind of important to note. Uh, just
Speaker 1: just quickly that these third party companies are probably still
Speaker 1: going to charge you for their services. UM. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily free, but it does work very very easily,
Speaker 1: and it is uh you know, synchronized with Google Drive,
Speaker 1: so it makes it very easy to do one from
Speaker 1: the other. Now your mileage may vary again again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about the tears that
Speaker 1: the Google offers. No more tears. That's my AUSSI Osborne
Speaker 1: reference for the day. Um, Actually it's probably not. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I'll get a crazy train in there somewhere man,
Speaker 1: or maybe war pigs. Maybe. I'm not sure how you're
Speaker 1: going to get that one. Maybe iron Man. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I can force a reference if I have to. It
Speaker 1: would be the first time anyway. So the tears that
Speaker 1: Google offers, so you've got five gigabytes of free storage. Actually,
Speaker 1: let's back that up. Okay, Google makes its money, well
Speaker 1: just a little bit deep. Google makes its money from advertising. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's true. Google is an advertising company when you get
Speaker 1: downe to it, or at least they they run advertising, right,
Speaker 1: So let's let's let's kind of take one step back
Speaker 1: and look at Google services. Okay, Google Docs, the previous
Speaker 1: Google docs free. Gmail that's free, uh searches free to
Speaker 1: the user. Um. Android is free for people to uh
Speaker 1: to install on cell phones. Um, all this stuff is
Speaker 1: offered more or less free to the consumer. This is
Speaker 1: one of the big changes because Google's competitors in this
Speaker 1: space people like uh that Jonathan mentioned before, dropbox, Box
Speaker 1: formerly boxed, dot Net, Sugar Sinc. Sky Drive, sky Drive,
Speaker 1: which is Microsoft's um application for this. These guys all
Speaker 1: offer tears. There's an initial free smaller space, and then
Speaker 1: they are are tiered pricing, so you get uh, you know,
Speaker 1: small for free, you get medium for a few dollars
Speaker 1: a month, you get large for a few more dollars
Speaker 1: a month, etcetera, etcetera. So this is new. Google has
Speaker 1: haven't done this with other products. Really, I can't think
Speaker 1: of one, uh where it offers tiered pricing like this.
Speaker 1: You know, nothing's popping the mind immediately. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could make some arguments about Google Voice, but that's a
Speaker 1: little different. That's a little different. Um yeah, so that's yeah,
Speaker 1: it is is something to make a call on Google
Speaker 1: Voice normally, like over the phone. In general, it's free. Now. Grant,
Speaker 1: what Google could have done is they could have offered
Speaker 1: the five gigabytes free storage and that would have been it.
Speaker 1: But see for Google to offer huge amounts of storage
Speaker 1: for free would be well pretty soon Google, that would
Speaker 1: be eating into Google's revenue. So it's understandable why they
Speaker 1: did what they did. Um and and really when we
Speaker 1: get into the comparisons, you'll see it's fairly comparable to
Speaker 1: the other services. Some offer less space for free, some
Speaker 1: offer more. But Dropbox, for example, is I would say,
Speaker 1: the for what it's worth, the eight pound gorilla, and
Speaker 1: yet that offers two gig and starts at two gigabytes
Speaker 1: for our friends to feel for friends, you get five
Speaker 1: hundred megabytes per referral and uh up to sixteen gigabytes
Speaker 1: extra storage, so you could have up to eighteen gigabytes
Speaker 1: for free if you referred that many friends to drop Box.
Speaker 1: Yeah so uh but but getting back to it, the
Speaker 1: five gigabytes is free for any user. So if you
Speaker 1: have a Google account and you have five gigs free
Speaker 1: storage online right now, uh, if that's enough, then for
Speaker 1: about two dollars, and this is all at launch, I
Speaker 1: should say, because if you're listening to this podcast in
Speaker 1: I'm sure the prices may be different, but for twenty
Speaker 1: for two dollars and forty nine cents a month, you
Speaker 1: can get twenty five gigabytes of storage. For four dollars
Speaker 1: and ninety nine cents a month, you get a hundred
Speaker 1: gigabytes of storage. And if you're really really data hungry,
Speaker 1: for a cool forty nine nine nine a month for
Speaker 1: nine dollars nine cents, you can get a terrabyte of
Speaker 1: storage online. So uh so, yeah, for people who need
Speaker 1: way more space. Let's say that you're that you do
Speaker 1: a lot of video editing, that you do a lot
Speaker 1: of a collaboration with other people with videos, and you
Speaker 1: want to have that ability for people to all look
Speaker 1: at it without it going live in any other way. Um,
Speaker 1: this would be pretty useful. And uh again it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of comparable to what other companies offer. Uh some
Speaker 1: of them don't have um as high amount of storage
Speaker 1: that actually, none of them offer as much storage as
Speaker 1: Google Drive does at its highest tier. The highest tier
Speaker 1: that Google Drive offers is sixteen terabytes of storage, which
Speaker 1: is for sevens a month. Yeah, well, I would say
Speaker 1: that some of them I've seen essentially say hey, if
Speaker 1: you need if you really need more storage in this,
Speaker 1: give us a call and we'll work something out. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and and there are there are a few things. Um,
Speaker 1: one you know this isn't completely new, because Google Docs
Speaker 1: has allowed you to upload files like word Microsoft Word
Speaker 1: documents for a little while now. But this is this
Speaker 1: is basically the formal, uh, the formal announcement that hey,
Speaker 1: we are going to offer you a certain amount of storage,
Speaker 1: and this is how much it costs. So it's really
Speaker 1: a delineation of all of that. Um. Yeah, the maximum
Speaker 1: file size that you can upload to a Google Drive
Speaker 1: as assuming that you have that much space as ten gigabytes,
Speaker 1: um and uh, which is one of the larger actually,
Speaker 1: I think that's the largest file size. Among the the
Speaker 1: consumer cloud storage, there's enterprise cloud storage. To Amazon offers
Speaker 1: enterprise level cloud storage. That's a different animal. Well, in
Speaker 1: a way it is, and in a way it isn't,
Speaker 1: because some of the other cloud services are using Amazon
Speaker 1: as their right story. So in some cases you are
Speaker 1: using Amazon Cloud Storage, you're just using it through another company.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we can genius business model right there. We
Speaker 1: can do some comparisons with the others. But first, before
Speaker 1: we did the comparisons, I wanted to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about some controversy that popped up. So there are
Speaker 1: these things, these terms of service agreements that you know,
Speaker 1: standard across the web, and sometimes people read them, and
Speaker 1: when they do read them, sometimes they say, hey, that
Speaker 1: doesn't sound quite right. Um, So one of the problems
Speaker 1: that came up are not even a problem. One of
Speaker 1: the one of the questions that popped up all had
Speaker 1: to do with part of the Google Drive terms of service,
Speaker 1: which said that anyone who would upload or submit content
Speaker 1: to Google Drive would grant Google and I quote, a
Speaker 1: worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create, derivative
Speaker 1: works such as those resulting from translations, adaptations, or other
Speaker 1: changes we make so that your content works better with
Speaker 1: our services, communicate, published, publicly, perform, publicly, display, and distribute
Speaker 1: such content end quote, which gave some people the fear
Speaker 1: that perhaps what Google was saying is if you upload
Speaker 1: your content to our service, we can do whatever we
Speaker 1: want to it now. In truth, that's not what Google meant. No,
Speaker 1: and this is common. I actually found an article on
Speaker 1: c net where they had taken the terms of service
Speaker 1: from basically everybody the major players in the cloud storage business,
Speaker 1: and there are clauses similar to that in many of them,
Speaker 1: and what they're basically saying is, um, you're giving us, Okay,
Speaker 1: you put the you put the file on the server.
Speaker 1: What they're saying is, you're going to allow us to
Speaker 1: make a thumbnail, a derivative work. You'll you'll let us
Speaker 1: capture the first page and make it small so you
Speaker 1: can see what it looks like. They they have you
Speaker 1: have to give them some of these rights to allow
Speaker 1: you to access it from other computers, right to share
Speaker 1: it with other collaborators with exactly. And and that's what
Speaker 1: I think they were trying to accomplish. But the way
Speaker 1: it was worded freaked right now. And when you think
Speaker 1: about a little bit, you realize, Uh, without this permission,
Speaker 1: Google drive would not work because there and you couldn't
Speaker 1: get it back because Google wouldn't. Google wouldn't have the
Speaker 1: permission to display it in a way that would be
Speaker 1: useful to you. So, for example, let's go with the
Speaker 1: collaboration thing. Here's here's an example. And I think it
Speaker 1: was c net that wrote this example. Um, I want
Speaker 1: to say it was it was Google. I think that
Speaker 1: actually said here's here's what the uh, here's a use
Speaker 1: case scenario that will explain it. But I think it
Speaker 1: was seen at that reported it said, all right, so
Speaker 1: imagine that you are collaborating with a screenwriter in China,
Speaker 1: and the screenwriter is writing in Chinese characters, and you
Speaker 1: don't read Chinese. So when you open up the file,
Speaker 1: Google Translate translates the document from Chinese into English so
Speaker 1: that you can read it and it's in a format
Speaker 1: that that makes sense to you. Well, those that's chain
Speaker 1: gene that work. It's adapting it in the form of
Speaker 1: translating it. And so this permission gives Google the rights
Speaker 1: to do that so that that document is actually useful
Speaker 1: to you. It's not. Google says they're not planning on
Speaker 1: doing anything like taking your work that you have uploaded,
Speaker 1: changing it around and then selling it somewhere. That's that's
Speaker 1: not the purpose of this language. The purpose is just
Speaker 1: so that the features within Google Drive are legal because
Speaker 1: you have permitted Google to do it. Yeah, or or
Speaker 1: using it in ads. Now, I've seen some people say
Speaker 1: that they have seen their stuff being used in ads
Speaker 1: that are being shown to them, um, but that whether
Speaker 1: it goes beyond those people, I haven't heard anything about that,
Speaker 1: So I'm not certain exactly how accurate that is, um,
Speaker 1: Because you know, they do collect quite a bit of
Speaker 1: information on you, and they really probably wouldn't need to
Speaker 1: look at your documents to be able to target advertising
Speaker 1: to you and your interests. Yeah, I mean it's also
Speaker 1: it's also so important that you know that these permissions
Speaker 1: also allow Google to do things like scan all your
Speaker 1: documents so that if you need to search them, that
Speaker 1: they can return results on those searches. Otherwise, again, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to search anything. You would just have
Speaker 1: to go through all that huge pile of files and
Speaker 1: find what you needed. Again, it's useful, it's a useful feature.
Speaker 1: But in order to do that, you have to grant
Speaker 1: them those those those permissions. Yeah, because if you don't then,
Speaker 1: uh then legally Google would be unable to provide that,
Speaker 1: at least not without breaking the law. Right. And of
Speaker 1: course this is all happening this week. It launched this week.
Speaker 1: I think in the last day or so, the tempers
Speaker 1: have cooled, but people are still saying, well, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: but the way it's written is very broad and it
Speaker 1: could be allowed, it could allow opening the door to
Speaker 1: doing these things. So they're saying that Google was a
Speaker 1: little reckless is probably a strong word, but they were
Speaker 1: a little uhum vague in their terms and uh and
Speaker 1: it grant them those permissions where they could theoretically do that.
Speaker 1: But again, these terms are very similar to the ones
Speaker 1: used by just about everybody else out there. I remember
Speaker 1: almost identical story from a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the company was. It might have
Speaker 1: even been Google again, but I remember distinctly that there
Speaker 1: was a discussion about this sort of thing and how
Speaker 1: people were worried that they were handing their rights over
Speaker 1: to another company, when in truth, what was going on
Speaker 1: was just like this. It was it was the permissions
Speaker 1: were there so that the service could display the work
Speaker 1: and the way it needed to be displayed for it
Speaker 1: to be useful, and uh and so ultimately it just
Speaker 1: boiled down to know, we're not selling your stuff. We
Speaker 1: just need this permission or else there's no service. We
Speaker 1: we literally cannot do what we need to do for
Speaker 1: us to be useful. So um, yeah, no need to panic,
Speaker 1: although it's always good to question just in case. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Google does still have that that motto of
Speaker 1: don't be evil, but you never know where. Evil's kind
Speaker 1: of an interesting thing that itself is not entirely uh
Speaker 1: like one from one man's definition of evil may be
Speaker 1: different from another's. And I've heard it clarified um Prime
Speaker 1: that that was really intended to mean, don't manipulate search
Speaker 1: results to facilitate advertising, and it was specifically geared towards that.
Speaker 1: So keep your eyes it's always going to keep your
Speaker 1: eyes open. No, it's it's always important to question. So
Speaker 1: let's go on to talking a little bit about how
Speaker 1: Google Drives stacks up against other cloud storage services. So
Speaker 1: with the free storage, with five gigabytes free storage, that
Speaker 1: puts it on the same playing ground as services like
Speaker 1: Box and sugar Sink. Both of those offer five gigs
Speaker 1: as well. Drop Boxes a little less is two gigabytes.
Speaker 1: But again, if you start referring other people and they
Speaker 1: joined the service, you get five hundred megabytes per referral,
Speaker 1: up to a maximum sixteen gigs. So you could, in theory,
Speaker 1: have way more storage for free on Dropbox than you
Speaker 1: would on these other services. Microsoft sky Drive is at
Speaker 1: seven gigabytes, but people who had sky Drive accounts previous
Speaker 1: to Google Drives launch can have up to hi gigabytes
Speaker 1: for free. Yes, but that offers being made for a
Speaker 1: limited time. So if you have that and you want
Speaker 1: to keep that, you might want to go quickly over
Speaker 1: there too. In fact, by the time this podcast publishes
Speaker 1: it may very well be late too late. UM, so
Speaker 1: in that case we're sorry anyway. The the minimum upgrade,
Speaker 1: so the smallest step that you can make from free
Speaker 1: to a paid service is uh as a little different
Speaker 1: depending on them the service. So for Google Drive it's
Speaker 1: two dollars and forty nine cents per month for gigs
Speaker 1: of storage. For for Dropbox, you get the lowest up
Speaker 1: is fifty gigabytes of storage for nine dollars and ninety
Speaker 1: nine cents a month, So if you're breaking it down
Speaker 1: per gig then Google Drive is cheaper, although you get
Speaker 1: less storage. Uh Box is twenty five gigabytes, so same
Speaker 1: amount as Google Drive, same amount storage, but for nine
Speaker 1: dollars nine nine cents a month, so it's more expensive.
Speaker 1: Sugar Sinc. Is thirty gigabytes of storage for four dollars
Speaker 1: and ninety nine cents a month, so uh it's you
Speaker 1: get you get five gigabytes more storage, but it's um
Speaker 1: it's essentially twice the price of Google Drive. UH And
Speaker 1: then um sky Drive is twenty gigabytes for ten dollars
Speaker 1: a year, which is actually uh it's a little less
Speaker 1: storage than Google Drive, but Google Drive at tot nine
Speaker 1: a month, you multiply that by twelve months, then you're like,
Speaker 1: oh well, Microsoft sky Driving away is a little cheaper UM.
Speaker 1: So that's how those stack up. And also the maximum
Speaker 1: file size limit. Google Drive knows the others out of
Speaker 1: the water, except for Sugar Sinc. Which does not technically
Speaker 1: have a file size limit, but the but box is
Speaker 1: limit is a hundred megabytes, so that's that's not too big.
Speaker 1: Drop Box and sky Drive both have a limit of
Speaker 1: two gigabytes for a file size. Uh. The uh. Sugar Sinc,
Speaker 1: drop Box, sky Drive, and Google Driver are all compatible
Speaker 1: both with Windows and Mac. Box is a business enterprise
Speaker 1: UM service, so primarily I mean you can you can
Speaker 1: get one if you want one. Uh. All of them
Speaker 1: have iPhone apps except for Google Drive right now, but
Speaker 1: Google drives working on it. Uh. The only one that
Speaker 1: doesn't have an Android app out of the of the
Speaker 1: ones I've listed is sky Drive, Microsoft sky Drive. Everything
Speaker 1: else has an Android app already out on the market.
Speaker 1: Windows Phone. Well, here's a shock. Microsoft sky Drive has
Speaker 1: a does phone app, but Google Drive doesn't, Dropbox doesn't,
Speaker 1: Box doesn't Sugar Sinks is supposedly coming out, so maybe
Speaker 1: by the time this podcast, because Live Sugar Sink will
Speaker 1: have theirs UM. They all are. They all have web access,
Speaker 1: so you can access the service over the web, so
Speaker 1: even if your device does not have an application that
Speaker 1: is native to that device, you can still get there
Speaker 1: over the web, assuming you have a browser. UH, and
Speaker 1: all of them allow for public file sharing, so that
Speaker 1: you can actually let other folks see what's in your
Speaker 1: drive or see specific files that you have you know,
Speaker 1: enabled public sharing. You can also do private file sharing
Speaker 1: with all of them, so that if you want to
Speaker 1: have just a group of collaborators, Let's say you're all
Speaker 1: working on a project together and you want to be
Speaker 1: able to look at everyone else's UM information on a
Speaker 1: particular file, you can do that, and then the public
Speaker 1: itself would be shielded. They would not be able to
Speaker 1: see that UM. And most of them off first some
Speaker 1: sort of collaborative document editing, although you might have to
Speaker 1: use proprietary apps in order to do it. Dropbox does not,
Speaker 1: it's more of a storage feature than collaboration. Sugar Sync
Speaker 1: also doesn't, but sky Drive, Box and Google Drive all
Speaker 1: do UM. And then there are a couple of other
Speaker 1: uh features like the third party apps, UM integration. That's
Speaker 1: that's pretty much standard across the board. Sky Drive is
Speaker 1: specifically going to be for Windows eight apps, so, but
Speaker 1: others are you know, pretty much unfettered. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of how it boils down to the other major cloud
Speaker 1: services that are out there, and there's there's more than that.
Speaker 1: That's just that's just a handful of them. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I've I've got different applications for several of them, including
Speaker 1: uh a Bunto one which is offered by Canonical primarily
Speaker 1: for Linux users. And uh, you know, they're there are
Speaker 1: others out there they're trying um and people have questioned
Speaker 1: whether or not these services are going to continue into
Speaker 1: the future. UM, I think Google Drive may end up
Speaker 1: being a model for what's going to be happening. Google
Speaker 1: Drive and sky Drive basically are you know, sort of
Speaker 1: hybrids of online collaboration, software and storage. UM. So the
Speaker 1: pure storage players like Dropbox and sugar Sink may have
Speaker 1: a difficult time competing with them in the future, especially
Speaker 1: since they're owned by uh, you know, sky Driving and
Speaker 1: um Google Driver are you know, big players, and they've
Speaker 1: got a whole lot of money to throw at these
Speaker 1: these UM different applications, so you know, creating larger and
Speaker 1: larger file storage for free, offering those services for free. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, it may not be very long at all
Speaker 1: before Google and Microsoft are offering you know, ten gigabytes
Speaker 1: UM or you know, or more than that. And of
Speaker 1: course you know, Apple is doing something very similar with
Speaker 1: the the um I work sweet too, So UM it's
Speaker 1: very possible that the big players in the industry may
Speaker 1: run off with it and and the pure storage guys
Speaker 1: sort of followed by the wayside. I would say that
Speaker 1: is a very very real possibility, but probably not for
Speaker 1: another year or two at least. UM. Just as people
Speaker 1: decide what it is they want to do with these systems,
Speaker 1: if they end up using just storage, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I'd rather create a document on my desktop and then
Speaker 1: share it with my collaborators on the on the drive
Speaker 1: rather than you know us working on a document in
Speaker 1: the cloud in my web browser. I think. UM, I
Speaker 1: think the real problem for the consumer in the short
Speaker 1: term is going to be uh, figuring out where the
Speaker 1: heck your data is if you're using multiple um multiple services.
Speaker 1: I do have that problem, Yeah, because if you have
Speaker 1: a Dropbox and I have Google Drive. Those are the
Speaker 1: only two that I'm using. I've got like six or seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I resisted that temptation because I knew what would happen.
Speaker 1: It's the problem you have. The problem you have within
Speaker 1: one drive is multiplied when you have multiple drives. So
Speaker 1: that's like, that's like you come home and you don't
Speaker 1: know what which computer has the file that you need
Speaker 1: on it. So you've got four computers in your house
Speaker 1: for some reason, Uh, like you live in my house
Speaker 1: for example. Actually I think I've got more than four,
Speaker 1: but anyway, I think I've got five. Anyway, let's say
Speaker 1: that you've got five computers at your house. Then let's
Speaker 1: say you've got five computers in my house, and that
Speaker 1: I have a file saved on one of those computers.
Speaker 1: Then comes the fun part of going to each computer
Speaker 1: and figuring out where it is. The same problem. If
Speaker 1: you're using multiple cloud storage services, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go and do search for each one. That the benefit
Speaker 1: to it is that you can at least do that
Speaker 1: search from one machine, as long as that one machine
Speaker 1: can access each of the services you're using, and if
Speaker 1: they all have web based access, and you've got a
Speaker 1: web browser, then you've got that problem solved, even if
Speaker 1: it's not the most elegant solution, but still means that
Speaker 1: you have to check each one of the drives and
Speaker 1: figure out where you have it, and then you might
Speaker 1: even fall into that same trap you had before where
Speaker 1: you might have duplicate files. You might have one instance
Speaker 1: on one drive and another instance on another drive. So
Speaker 1: um yeah, that's that's gonna be a problem too, is
Speaker 1: that if you use a lot of these services, then
Speaker 1: you still have to have some sort of discipline when
Speaker 1: it comes to data management. Maybe you only use one
Speaker 1: for one particular type of file and use another for
Speaker 1: a different one. In that way, at least you reduce
Speaker 1: that confusion. Me what I think I'm gonna end up
Speaker 1: doing is I'm going to pick one, and I haven't
Speaker 1: decided which yet, although let's be honest, Google Drive is
Speaker 1: probably the lead, simply because I have a lot of
Speaker 1: products that run Android, so you know, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: locked into that in ecosystem already, but I haven't completely
Speaker 1: decided yet. So let's say, you know, whichever one I
Speaker 1: decide on, I'm going to eventually move all my things,
Speaker 1: all of the things. I'm going to move all of
Speaker 1: the things into that folder and I'm just gonna get
Speaker 1: rid of the others, so that way I don't have
Speaker 1: that issue. Is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: about this before we wrap up? No, I think we
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