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Speaker 2: major headline that took place Saturday that'll be talked about

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Speaker 2: for years. Let's not bury the lead now. I went

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Speaker 2: on several shows this past week and I made the

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Speaker 2: comment that I can't remember when a defending national champion

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Speaker 2: the following year. And I did understand that Ryan Day

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Speaker 2: was six and twelve against the spread in November home games,

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Speaker 2: and I grabbed the twenty one points and if you

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Speaker 2: bet the game on the money line, one hundred would

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Speaker 2: bring you back nine hundred and seventy eight dollars, which

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Speaker 2: meant Michigan had about an eight percent chance of winning

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Speaker 2: this game. I didn't think they'd win the game, not

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Speaker 2: didn't think they'd win the game. And therein lies the

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Speaker 2: opening for my narrative. Let's take a twenty point underdog

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Speaker 2: You're missing your best defensive player in Will Johnson, your

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Speaker 2: best offensive player in Colston Lovelin. You have a first

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Speaker 2: lost seventies starters from last year's team, coming up against

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Speaker 2: a team who just spent twenty million dollars hell or

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Speaker 2: high water to get to the national championship. New new

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Chick Kelly, new defensive coordinator Jim Knowles. You

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Speaker 2: get you get the picture. We see the beauty of sports,

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Speaker 2: and the sports world is simple. You can script everything

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Speaker 2: but the ending. And just when you think you've seen

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Speaker 2: it all, you see something new? Or did we you see?

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Speaker 2: Back in nineteen sixty nine, a young Boa scham Beckler

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Speaker 2: a first year coach at Michigan. He would face off

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Speaker 2: first time. Now, every once in a while a college

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Speaker 2: football game comes along, nobody will ever forget. And these contests, well,

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Speaker 2: they often have a very long lasting impact on the

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Speaker 2: sport itself, as well as the players and coaches who

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Speaker 2: are part of it. The nineteen sixty nine edition of

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Speaker 2: the legendary Michigan Ohio State Battle the Rivalry is one

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Speaker 2: of those unforgettable battles because that game lit the fire

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Speaker 2: for what was ultimately characterized as the ten Year War,

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Speaker 2: which was a nickname for the series between Bo Sham

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Speaker 2: to plan that day, Woody Hayes and his number one

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Speaker 2: ranked Buckeyes would have been back to back national champions winners,

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Speaker 2: are three straight games over the Wolverines and the top

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Speaker 2: candidate to be named the team of the century. In fact,

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Speaker 2: no one had even scored more than twenty points against

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Speaker 2: Ohio State during the nineteen sixty nine campaign. Nobody even

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Speaker 2: put a scare into the buck guys, who had won

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Speaker 2: every single game by at least twenty seven points. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State never even trailed for a single second the

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Speaker 2: entire season. To everyone outside of Ann Arbor, the Scarlet

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Speaker 2: an ESPN Classic documentary years ago, and quote all the

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Speaker 2: knowledgeable sports raders around the country called it the greatest

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Speaker 2: was generally thought. The only team that could pete with

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl that year ha ha, Ton and cheek Well. Michigan,

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Speaker 2: the NFL. But what the Michigan Wolverines did have, however,

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Speaker 2: and unflappable confidence. In front of one hundred and four thousand,

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Speaker 2: they have now beatn Ohio State in four straight games.

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Speaker 2: the first four game winning streak for Michigan since Ohio

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Speaker 2: Michigan that had dated back to nineteen eighty eight. Now,

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Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer and many of the other Ohio State players

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Speaker 2: up the Ohio State kicker Jason Fielding missed two field

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Speaker 2: offensive display actually for both teams. Each quarterback through two interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Three of those four picks came in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: The most egregious one was thrown by actually Michigan's quarterback

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Speaker 2: yards twenty nine first downs. Michigan threw for just sixty

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Speaker 2: is beyond me. What happened to all those all American

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Speaker 2: I consider to be a tremendous personal blunder. The Buckeyes

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Speaker 2: Ohio State didn't have the right defensive personnel on the field,

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Speaker 2: and Ryan Day tried to call a second timeout, But

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Speaker 2: you know, college football rules not prevent coaches from taking

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Speaker 2: consecutive timeouts. The ensuing illegal substitution penalty gave Michigan a

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Speaker 2: on third down. As far as Ohio State's playoff hopes,

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Speaker 2: it's not much of an overstatement to say that Ohio

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Speaker 2: State's remade offense with Chip Kelly filed miserably on Saturday. YEP,

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Speaker 2: the Buckeyes played the game with an offensive line that

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Speaker 2: Jenkins well, they were brought in to beat Michigan this

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Speaker 2: year to also go on to win a national championship.

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Speaker 2: Judkins rushed twelve times for forty six yards. Now, on

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Speaker 2: paper for Ohio State, a national title is still in play. However,

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Speaker 2: it's possible the Buckeyes might have to go on the

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Speaker 2: The Buckeyes they should still safely be in the twelve

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Speaker 2: no Big Ten title and Ohio State. You know, they

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Speaker 2: needed Penn State to lose to Maryland. That wasn't gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: that did not happen. As I said, you can script

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Speaker 2: everything but the ending. And I gotta believe when the folks,

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Speaker 2: gonna be saying to themselves, did that really happen? Coming up,

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Speaker 2: we've got the Phasik five and we're gonna talk some

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Speaker 2: out for the conference championship games, which will take place

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Speaker 2: next weekend around the country. I'm Bernie Frodle. We're a

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Speaker 2: Well is just another typical slow dawn in the sports

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Speaker 2: going to chop it up a little college football. I

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Speaker 2: understand you fired on some of the openers with respect

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Speaker 2: to the upcoming conference championship games that start next weekend.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you take us down that road?

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Speaker 3: I think I bet every game, and again I went

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Speaker 3: ahead and consulted with my college football experts.

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Speaker 4: Here is what I bet.

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Speaker 5: Bernie.

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Speaker 3: I bet Army plus four and a half hosting Tulane.

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Speaker 3: I bet Jacksonville State and the Conference USA Championship minus two.

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Speaker 3: I bet unlv in Boise plus the sixth. I bet yeah,

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Speaker 3: Georgia Texas. I bet Texas two and a half. I

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Speaker 3: was surprised by this. It's in the Georgia Dome. My

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Speaker 3: guy's say, yes, should be, it should be more like five.

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Speaker 3: So laid two and a half with Texas.

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Speaker 2: Hold that thought. Hold that thought because Georgia that's a

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Speaker 2: de facto home game for them. They played many kickoff

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Speaker 2: I'm dubious about that line. But continue on. We can

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Speaker 2: circle back to that.

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Speaker 3: Well, my guys were I had this conversation with them

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Speaker 3: and they started screaming at me. They're like, Texas is

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Speaker 3: seven points better than Georgia, and we gave Georgia three

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Speaker 3: for home field and even, and they said it's not

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Speaker 3: Georgia three and they're way even with that, and there'll

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Speaker 3: be plenty of Texas fans that will make the trip.

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Speaker 3: So Texas is much much, much.

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Speaker 4: I checked my database.

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Speaker 4: But it can't be good. Cannot be good, right, Well.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, based on what With all due respect.

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Speaker 3: These guys are like analytics darlings. Believe me, their numbers.

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Speaker 2: Are James Franklin beats everybody that he's supposed to beat,

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I well, boy, Oregon is got I'll tell

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Speaker 3: Because they're only because their numbers completely disagreed with the openers.

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Speaker 2: Well, and the reality it is, I know no one's

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Speaker 3: But what's interesting is you and I had the same reaction.

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Speaker 2: why when have you seen a national champion getting twenty

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Speaker 2: By the way, Ryan days six and twelve at home

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Speaker 3: As long as you can beat the closing number, you

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Speaker 3: I'm and I have had a long history with these guys,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, we'll grade these plays next week,

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Speaker 2: write them down. We're not going to do all of them,

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Speaker 2: We'll just do. You know, you may be very well

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Speaker 2: that domean right on one. Let's move on, because one

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Speaker 2: of the things I want to do tonight, Fez, is

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Speaker 2: a quick autopsy on the Lions Bears game. And here's why.

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Speaker 2: You know, I covered that team forever and I'm still

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Speaker 2: But if you watch the game Thursday, Fees, and I

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Speaker 2: but it felt weird. The Bears come out all of

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Speaker 2: Because the Lions defense now is simply not what it

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Speaker 2: because you know the markets, you're going to pay alliance

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Speaker 3: You know, it's very interesting because it's Thanksgiving Day and

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Speaker 2: And that even that says, you know, darn well, you

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry you got to flew me.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't double digits.

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Speaker 5: It was nice and half a post.

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Speaker 2: But there are people, but says, there are people, I believe,

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, it didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: None of them covered.

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Speaker 4: I was one of them.

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Speaker 3: And yet there was a multitude of sharp stones making

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Speaker 3: and you know it, and Detroit killed them in the

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Speaker 3: to be very concerned. I don't think they I don't

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Speaker 3: if they repeat that. And let's face it, that was

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Speaker 2: The Birds they get one.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I here's the blame. It's ninety percent

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Speaker 3: both of them. It's like for there to be a

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Speaker 2: No, I agree, And just again for the record, the

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Speaker 2: Lions did settle for three field goals in the first half,

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Speaker 2: So you're right, You're right about the funnel, but you know,

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Speaker 2: they perpetually got into the red zone. Had to settle

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Speaker 2: so quickly. Currently, I believe that the Lion Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: the Lions are laying five against the green Bay team

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Speaker 2: who's actually built for this spot. Fez, your thoughts, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: I had I had Detroit. I had them eight points

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Speaker 3: them to seven. I've got like green Bay like three

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would, Fez. And it's a weird, funky line.

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Speaker 2: You know you're in that deadline area five. I absolutely

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Speaker 2: That's an offense built to move the ball on this turf.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay is going to get their points. And I

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Speaker 2: like the DNA at this green Bay team, Fez. They

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Speaker 2: their mid twenties, and they're all really starting to run

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Speaker 2: team that you know Hamber Detroit last year on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: the if you recall says any final thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the slate here.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that was a big Survivor game, and that

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Speaker 3: course Greg Jones famously mistakenly took Green Bay and Survivor

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Speaker 2: Wonderful. Congratulations. I You'll never catch me in a Survivor contest.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be an adrenaline junkie to do that.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather just bet the games every week? Can you imagine? No, Fez.

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Speaker 2: I was told that if both the Bears and the

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Speaker 2: the Circus Survivor contest. Is that true?

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Speaker 3: And what's face that we have not had a sole survivor.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe. And how cool would that be? One

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Speaker 3: person walking away with fourteen million, essentially winning more than

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Speaker 3: the World Series of Poker champion wins. When the Bayan

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Speaker 3: for the World Series of Pokers ten thousand, here the

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Speaker 3: Bayan's only one thousand. But here's the catch. Winner takes

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Speaker 4: I don't know there's gonna be big top.

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Speaker 3: All it's gonna take is one big favorite to go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, excellent point, all right. I want to dive

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Speaker 2: ahead to this slate, tough slate this week. There's only

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Speaker 2: a couple of games I really like. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: our nation's capital. The Commando's laying six against the plucky

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. They've burned me a bunch of times, but frankly,

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Speaker 2: that defense is pretty good, and I think Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 3: But I cannot bet the Titans because they have terrible

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Speaker 3: they Titans did play great last.

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00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: Week, Fez. I'm in agreement. I'm not involved in that game,

434
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: but one game I'm leaning, but I'm a little nervous

435
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: the Falcons catching a point at home against the Chargers.

436
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at as a teaser partner there. But the

437
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 2: one thing that concerns me greatly about Atlanta is they

438
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: don't get much pressure on the quarterback. And when Jake,

439
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: when Justin Herbert has time to operate, he's pretty damn good.

440
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: But there's no JK. Dobbins. So this game's a little

441
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: confusing to me. Can you sort it out?

442
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

443
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 3: No Dobbins, more throwing, Atlanta has no pass rush.

444
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: Both team's going to move the ball.

445
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 3: Let's go over Chargers after seventh straight under, three straight overs.

446
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: I think Herbert looks great and he looks healthy over

447
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: the forty seven and a half.

448
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: All right, I think everybody thinks I'm crazy, but I

449
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: played a half unit on Cincinnati minus three against Pittsburgh.

450
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: I don't. I won't bore you with all my long

451
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: winded analysis. Am I on the right side of that

452
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: game or not?

453
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 3: I would argue you're on the wrong line because it's

454
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: a two point seventy five game. So this is a

455
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: game where if you play Sincy I think you really

456
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: have to get minus two and a half. If you

457
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: get Pittsburgh, you really have to get plus three. I'll

458
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: predict the Bengals win by exactly three. By the way,

459
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: at that point right here, locally mis two a half

460
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 3: lay a dollar ten right now on the Bengals.

461
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: Well that's pretty nice, listen. Okay, so that's shame on me.

462
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: But the worst thing going to happen if lands on

463
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: three app push, but it only lands on three about

464
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: fourteen percent of the time, So it's not going to

465
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: go ten.

466
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: Ten percent because it's got to be the favorite landing

467
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: by three, because if Pittsburgh wins by three, then it

468
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

469
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Oh that's an excellent point. Okay, all right, Houston visits Jacksonville,

470
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: and uh, of course, this is again one of those

471
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: games where you've got a situation that you know the

472
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: home team is getting points again and this feels like

473
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: a sneaky play where the books are going to make

474
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot of money and Jacksonville might win this game. Outright.

475
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Well, that's what the market is saying. You

476
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: could add Jacksonville plus five all week long, and now

477
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: you can get Jacksonville plus three and a half and

478
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: my experiences, everybody doesn't win at this It's not that

479
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: easy where there's just a clear cut right side. It's

480
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: like a scavenger hunt. You got to get to the

481
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: good number first. So bold prediction, Houston's gonna win the

482
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: game by four, Bernie.

483
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: So here's my other teaser partner. I got Atlanta plus

484
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: eight now and I'm gonna tease it. I'm going to

485
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: tease New England up. They're catching two and a half.

486
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: Here's why Indianapolis comes to town. I'm not so sure.

487
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: The wrong team's getting points, and I'll tell you why, Fez.

488
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: The Colts have been out gained in eleven other twelve

489
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: games this season. They're also zero and six in the

490
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: stats category in their last six contests. They're what you

491
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: call a team who is leaking oil and they're laying

492
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: points down the road. You're going to get an excellent

493
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: effort out of New England. You've got a dome team,

494
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: hothouse team going outside in the cold, and Drake May's improving.

495
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: I really like New England. Actually, I think they win outright.

496
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

497
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: The irony is you've got a team that plays in

498
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: Lucas Oil stadium leaking the oil. Yeah, I'm already doing

499
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks going in opposite directions. You've got the quarterback

500
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: for the Colts, Richardson. Flaclo has been bad, but he's

501
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: been better than Richardson and obviously may playing much better.

502
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: I did bet the Patriots plus when it was plus three.

503
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 3: You do need a teaser partner. I would be remiss

504
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: not to say if you're gonna tease, can't tease in

505
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: Vegas anymore. Bernie minus the six point minus one twenty

506
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: NFL teaser is done, though in Vegas. You could still

507
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: do it in far away places, at places like DraftKings

508
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: and at bookmaker, but you won't win if you're teasing

509
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: laying more than minus one twenty, and that's no longer

510
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: available in the sports betting capital of the world, former

511
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: sports betting gap of the world, Las Vegas.

512
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to Minnesota. This is a very confusing game

513
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: to me, Vikings laying three and a half. I Arizona's

514
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: very plucky, and rarely does Carlne Murray play two bad

515
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: games in a row. I feel like this is a

516
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: coin flip game.

517
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, I bet Arizona plus the three and

518
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 3: a half. Very high on Arizona. You know the game

519
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 3: I really like, Actually though, is next week. My best

520
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: bet would be next week Arizona hosts Seattle and they're

521
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: minus one twenty five.

522
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: So think about this.

523
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: Arizona was like minus one twenty last week at Seattle.

524
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: It's hard to play in Seattle, the very tough venue,

525
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: close game, ten points turn around on a pick six.

526
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: So if Arizona was favored in Seattle, they should be

527
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: a big favorite at home against Seattle. So next week

528
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: is where I really am going to invest in Arizona.

529
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned Seattle. We've got the Gino Smith

530
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: Bull Seattle travels of the Jets. Everybody's long forgotten that

531
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: Gino Smith was a coveted Jet at one point. It

532
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: feels like a lot of Jets money is coming in

533
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: the game is now up to pick them. I want

534
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 2: nothing to do with this game, but if somebody had

535
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: a gun to my head, I could actually only look

536
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: to Seattle your thoughts.

537
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: Whoever winds up favored by one and a half, I

538
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: would certainly tease the other guys up to seven and

539
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: a half because I have no idea. Bernie, it looks

540
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: a little bit when all that money came on the

541
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: Jets against Houston, and then the Jets have their one

542
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: good game of the year. But the Jets are a

543
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: dead team. My goodness, I don't want to invest in them.

544
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pass.

545
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to a couple of the marquee games.

546
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, the Niners and I know it was seven.

547
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: I think it's down to six now at Buffalo, watch

548
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: out for the weather. I actually fired on the under

549
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: very early in the week. Rock Party may play, so

550
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: fez San Francisco is really this trendy pick. I know

551
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: a lot of people grabbed him at seven. But let

552
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: me tell you what I can't unsea. They're twenty eight

553
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: point gashing against Green Bay last week. The Niners committed

554
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: nine penalties, including one that wiped out Deebo Samuel's eighty

555
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: yard return at the start of the second half. Turnovers galore,

556
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: blown as Simon's galore. The Niners are not buttoned up

557
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: at all. Even the six points don't look attracted to me.

558
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: It's a stay away game. But can you make your

559
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: case for San Francisco. It seems like a very trendy play.

560
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: So I made the game affalo five if party plays

561
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: and nine if he doesn't. But that's with a healthy party,

562
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: and Party isn't going to be healthy, so five is

563
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: a pipe dream. It probably should be at least six.

564
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: Clearly the market saying Party is going to play, but

565
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: he's not. One hundred percent. There's better games to invest in.

566
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: I passed, Yeah, fair enough. I mean, look, the other

567
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: thing you can usea is the Niners are actually led

568
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: by ten points last week at one point, and they

569
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: ended up losing by twenty eight. So that's not good.

570
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: All right. Two more to get to here, actually three

571
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: quick ones New Orleans and the Rams. It feels like

572
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: the look I used to used to be an auto

573
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: play for me. Whenever an under five hundred team in

574
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: the NFL was laying points on the road, I'd fade him.

575
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what's happening here. Is the Rams are

576
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: laying a short number two and a half against the

577
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, the newly coveted New Orleans Saints and the

578
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: Darren Rizzy era. I think New Orleans live here. I

579
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: just do.

580
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: I agree. I bet New Orleans plus three. I can't

581
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: bet them plus two and a half. But the line's

582
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: like two point sixty three. What the heck am I

583
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: talking about saying it's a decimal point like that. Well,

584
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: the minus two and a has for the Rams are juice.

585
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: They're like minus one fifteen, minus one twenty. I think

586
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: if you play it cool, you wait around, you might

587
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 3: see that plus three lay a dollar ten tomorrow on

588
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: the Saints, and then certainly at that price I would

589
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: invest in the Saints.

590
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 5: I agree with your analysis.

591
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not on that game, but this game

592
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely on. I grabbed Philadelphia plus the field goal.

593
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: I love the way they run the ball. I love

594
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: their physical latitude. They become a four quarter team. Looks

595
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: like even Nick Sirianni can't screw this up. Baltimore. Everybody's

596
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: always gaga about Baltimore and mister October. But just wait,

597
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: they'll do again what they always do. I will not

598
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: be shocked at Philadelphia Wednesday game. I'm right in Baltimore.

599
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, I agree. I bet Philly plus the three.

600
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: I think off the Hardball Bowl Chargers Ravens, and the

601
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: Ravens play Monday night, have to fly all the way

602
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: back to the East Coast at home, so terrible spot

603
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: for the Ravens. I did also play a prop bet

604
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: I bet can't run on the Ravens. So I bet

605
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: the Eagles hurts over two hundred and twenty nine and

606
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: a half passing yards.

607
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: Last one FEZ Monday Night the Broncos. The number I

608
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 2: see what Broncos are laying six against Cleveland? Is that correct?

609
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: It is? Yes?

610
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so not sure what to do about that game,

611
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: but I really can't back Cleveland. The only people that

612
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: would back Cleveland are those who I believe have a

613
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: false sense of security with Jamison. Also just not buying

614
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: that the Brown that the Broncos are for real. But

615
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: I think vot Nicks is absolutely for reals. Last three games,

616
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: eight touchdown passes, no picks, at one to eighteen rating.

617
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: I think he's on his way. He should win Rookie

618
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: of the Year. He might not. And Jayden Daniels was

619
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: fading and Denver's on their way to the playoffs. They're

620
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: a very buttoned up team. And in a standalone game

621
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: on Monday Night, can you expect Cleveland to come back

622
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: and win two in a row like that with Jamis?

623
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: After Jamis will throw a pick and another pick and

624
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: Alson you'll kick fighting, and I don't know. I like Denver.

625
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: I like the Sean Payton defense. I think he'll confuse

626
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: jamis your thoughts.

627
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I made it seven, but it's unfamiliar territory for

628
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: Denver to be laying those points. I agree completely with

629
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 3: your quarterback ANALYSI analysis, and I got to ask you

630
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: because this is not an easy answer. We're going to

631
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: redraft our top four quarterbacks who we take in number

632
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: one if we are the Las Vegas Raiders and we

633
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: can steal any one of the four rookie quarterbacks, Bernie.

634
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: It's kind of a long discussion. I'll just defer to you.

635
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: What's the answer you're looking for.

636
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: I don't have an answer. It's too close to call.

637
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm thinking it could be Bo Nix. I really do.

638
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: I know.

639
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: I don't want Kayleb Williams.

640
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: You know why, because that meltdown at the end. I

641
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: am furious at him. That shows me a guy that

642
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: has not buttoned up in the head. Literally, if I

643
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: did that in an intramural great game when I was

644
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: in seventh grade, they would never let me quarterback again.

645
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: I don't care what the coach tells me.

646
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: Do something. Make your decision exactly, paralysis through analysis. He's

647
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: standing there defferent, he's not. Look, if you want to

648
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: play playground football, take Caleb Williams. If you want to

649
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Speaker 2: play playground football, take jayde Daniels. And I like j

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Speaker 2: D Daniels a lot, but when is he best? When

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Speaker 2: the play breaks down? And by the way Jade Daniels

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Speaker 2: operates quite nicely from the pocket, bow Knicks is actually

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Speaker 2: prosecuting a real NFL offense where he plays.

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Speaker 3: Daniels might be hurt his entire career also, so we

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Speaker 3: got to worry about.

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Speaker 2: That because of the way he plays the game. But

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Speaker 2: here's the here's the problem, and this is the part

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Speaker 2: of the question. I list closely to put any one

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Speaker 2: of those guys with the Raiders, and it's addressed bee

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Speaker 2: for disaster. I don't know what offense the Raiders run.

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Speaker 2: They can't run the ball. Yeah you know, so fast forward.

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Speaker 2: Let you go. Do you have a best bet for

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Speaker 2: the folks, Yeah, let's.

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Speaker 3: Go Carolina Panthers plus six. Obviously, when you take six

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Speaker 3: points at home, you're not going to get a good team.

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Speaker 3: But Carolina is much healthier than what they were a

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Speaker 3: month ago, and it looks like they have a bottom

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Speaker 3: ten quarterback instead of the worst quarterback in the league

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Speaker 3: right now, they should be able to hang in there

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Speaker 3: against the Tampa Bay team that's still missing Godwin.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Panthers did something last week that you never

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Speaker 2: really see against the Andy Reid team except maybe once

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Speaker 2: every ten years. Third team in the Andy Reid era

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Speaker 2: in twelve years. The Panthers were to score on seventy

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Speaker 2: five percent of their drives that week. Bryce Young had

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Speaker 2: his best game. I believe in the kid. I do

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Speaker 2: not think he should be throwing in the trash deyp

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Speaker 2: give him time. He's got too much talent and too

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Speaker 2: much going on upstairs, and he's a quality human being.

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Speaker 2: So I like your I like that, Alt Fez. Don't

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Speaker 2: be surprised if Carolina doesn't win this game out right

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Speaker 2: beat the Tampa Bay Bucks.

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Speaker 3: I hope not, because I'm still sweating my under four

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Speaker 3: and a half an under five and f season win

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Speaker 3: number for Carolina, and that's getting dicey, Bernie.

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Speaker 2: That's great stuff. Enjoy Sunday, Bud. Thanks, thank you, Bernie,

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Speaker 2: good night. Bernie. F Show continues with some final thoughts

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Speaker 2: on Michigan's huge win. Keep it locked, You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Now we're back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Come to your lie from the tarak dot Com studios

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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. A couple quick PostScript thoughts about

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Speaker 2: the Michigan game. And by the way, there's a little

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Speaker 2: sing be humbled in victory, gracious in defeat. I think

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Speaker 2: people know better this weekend. It wasn't just Michigan inhabited

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Speaker 2: at North Carolina. Happened in Florida. This flag planning stuff,

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Speaker 2: but that's what you feel you got to do. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna get on any high horse here today, but

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Speaker 2: this weekend he's been a bit of a mockery of sportsmanship.

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Speaker 2: You know, all the flags, the lack of handshakes, screaming, pouting, crying,

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Speaker 2: just ba corum, bad stuff. For what it's worth. This

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Speaker 2: may be a topic of mind on the midnight hour

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Speaker 2: next Friday night, but again, I'm not getting out of

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Speaker 2: my high horse. There are people that I respect and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: you don't want us to plant the flag beat us.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. I get that, But if you really feel

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Speaker 2: you need to do that, to put an exclamation point.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it detracts from what you did

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Speaker 2: on the field. Just just my thought. But a couple

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Speaker 2: of other takeaways from Michigan's huge win. Michigan went into

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Speaker 2: Columbus and they had a team that lost five games

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Speaker 2: this year, five games. They were without two of their

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Speaker 2: best players, Colston Lovelin, their star tight end. They're probably

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Speaker 2: top five draft pick cornerback Will Johnson. It didn't matter,

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Speaker 2: Michigan decided they were. This was I'm telling you your

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Speaker 2: own more channel bullsham Beckler, block, tackle, wear the other

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Speaker 2: team down, defend, tackling space. A tremendous dominant defense by

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Speaker 2: Michigan and just enough offense to do it right. And

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Speaker 2: the Wolverines were a twenty point underdog against Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: They won their fourth straight now in the series. And

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Speaker 2: you know what, I don't know why people want to

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Speaker 2: give Lincoln Riley all this love. What exactly? Please? Someone

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Speaker 2: please tell me what Lincoln Riley's signature victory is. And

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Speaker 2: it's four years at USC. Can someone tell me what

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Speaker 2: the hell that is? Meanwhile, earlier in the year, Sharon Moore,

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Speaker 2: the head coach of Michigan, he not only he beat

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Speaker 2: Michigan State and he say, so what, Well, guess what.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh didn't do that his first year. Even both

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Speaker 2: Sham Beckler didn't do that his first year. Charon Moore

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Speaker 2: did it, and Sharylmore beat Ohio State. It took Harball

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Speaker 2: six tries to beat Ohio State. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Sharon Moore also led Michigan to the big win over

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Speaker 2: Ohio State last year as the acting head coach whin

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Speaker 2: Harball was suspended. But this by far is the biggest

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Speaker 2: win for the new permanent coach. I've applauded Charon Moore

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Speaker 2: all year. This has been this is in a Mulligan

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Speaker 2: year for Michigan. He's handled himself in such a dignified fashion.

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Speaker 2: He's the right man for this job. And we'll see

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Speaker 2: what Michigan could do next year. We'll see what they

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Speaker 2: do in the bowl game. But the Wolverines, Cherlon Moore

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Speaker 2: prosecuted what I consider to be a very a very heady,

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Speaker 2: intelligent Michigan game plan for the team. He had this,

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Speaker 2: this he brought an approach. It actually defined the Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: era stifling defense a solid run game. Kalo Mullings one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen yards, one touchdown, excellent place kicking from

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Speaker 2: Dominic Zavada. Michigan completely repeatedly flustered Ohio State quarterback Will Howard,

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Speaker 2: who'd been playing very well in recent weeks, only allowed

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty two total yards. The Wolverines best

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Speaker 2: players rose up and you know, they dominated their one

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Speaker 2: on one matchups with all the Buckeye players. The Ohio

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Speaker 2: State was shut out in the second half after tying

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Speaker 2: the game right before halftime, up to what is a

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Speaker 2: signature moment for Sharon Moore and Michigan after what has

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Speaker 2: been largely a more abundan, maybe even a forgettable season,

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Speaker 2: but what a high note. We'll see if they can

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Speaker 2: build on this like Bo scham Beckler did back in

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine when he beat the o'hap State Buckeyes

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Speaker 2: with another overmatch Michigan team, but he did it, so

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Speaker 2: this is one for the ages. When a game like

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Speaker 2: this comes along, it lives in people's hearts for the

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Speaker 2: rest of their lives. Coming up, we flipped the NBA

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Speaker 2: a little medeena magic on midnight. Keep it locked. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well,

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Speaker 2: You hear him every week at this time, twelve midnight

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Speaker 2: Saturday evening Pacific time heading into Sunday, because there's always

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Speaker 2: a ton of news in the NBA, and this week

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Speaker 2: is no different. Three simple words, It's that time, Little

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Speaker 2: Medina Magic, Mark Madena joines our Fox Sports Radio TV guru, Mark,

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Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy? All right? We are efforting Mark

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Speaker 2: Medina And one of the things I want to talk

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Speaker 2: to him about is there's a growing grumble around the

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Speaker 2: NBA that the sport is suffering and that TV ratings

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Speaker 2: are tumbling because the math says the players should be

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Speaker 2: firing up threes at a high rate, often at the

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Speaker 2: expense of you know, dunks, more exciting basketball plays. And

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Speaker 2: what they're saying is they're calling this Mark I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you've heard my lead in there. There's a

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Speaker 2: new term being manned about the NBA among the media.

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Speaker 2: It's what are called desert games. I say that in quote,

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Speaker 2: desert games meaning there have been twenty four in instances

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Speaker 2: this year in which a team didn't score single point

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Speaker 2: in the mid range area. Are you have you heard

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Speaker 2: that term? And I want to talk about it a bit.

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard that exact term, but it's not surprising

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Speaker 5: because the modern MBA probably i would say, for the

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Speaker 5: last eight years, had centered all three things threes, dunks,

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Speaker 5: and free throws.

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Speaker 2: And nailed it.

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Speaker 5: I think that, you know, when you look at the NBA,

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Speaker 5: there are very specific players that have used the mid

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Speaker 5: range as kind of a competitive advantage because everyone else hasn't.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're zigging, well zagging. But those are the exceptions.

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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant, DeMar DeRozan, Chris Paul. They're really great at

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Speaker 5: still doing that, but by and large they are the exceptions,

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Speaker 5: not the rule.

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Speaker 2: Well, do you agree that it was you know, stated

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Speaker 2: last week by someone named sportscaster they coote the NBA

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Speaker 2: is at its best when dudes are flying over people

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Speaker 2: meeting them at the rim. That's when it's the best

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Speaker 2: television product. You just got a bunch of finesca hanging

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Speaker 2: out of the three point line hoisting thirty footers. That's

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Speaker 2: not good. They're on pace for one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: six desert games this year. There's one every night, And

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Speaker 2: I understand the chord cutting aspect, but the cord cutting

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Speaker 2: aspect doesn't a figure affect other sports or events if

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Speaker 2: it's interesting. So your final thoughts on this and is

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Speaker 2: it being talked about in NBA circles.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that the NBA they don't want to

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Speaker 5: ever put like caps on how many threes a team

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Speaker 5: can take because that's getting really in the nitty gritty.

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Speaker 5: But you know, they talk with the Competition Committee every

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Speaker 5: year about what rules to implement to change things, and

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Speaker 5: so I think when you look at last year, the

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Speaker 5: one thing that they did change was that midway through

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Speaker 5: the All Star break or midway through the season, they

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Speaker 5: told teams or they made a note in the referees

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Speaker 5: to let the games be more physical, not let everything

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Speaker 5: get bogged down with the trips of the free throw line.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's more about continuing to improve that

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Speaker 5: pace so that there's a lot of ball movement. There's

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Speaker 5: teams running up and down the floor, and it is

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Speaker 5: entertaining whether teams want to take threes, mid range or dunks.

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Speaker 5: It's entirely up to them, as long as you know

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Speaker 5: everything's moving at a pretty good rate.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I don't know what the NBA

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Speaker 2: could do. Just last question on this. People are saying

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Speaker 2: they need to change the rule. What what rules could

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Speaker 2: they possibly change to dictate what players do? I don't

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Speaker 2: know what you would possibly do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're going to go down our supper

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Speaker 5: slippery slope. If the NBA dictates again the amount of

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Speaker 5: three a team can take, or if there's a minimum

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Speaker 5: of number of mid range, I mean that you may

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Speaker 5: as well be not playing the game because it's literally

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Speaker 5: being controlled from people up above. So it's really about

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Speaker 5: saying the rules in place so that teams adapt accordingly.

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Speaker 5: And so, uh, you know, maybe there's I can't really

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Speaker 5: think of a solution right now other than just trying

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Speaker 5: to have teams be incentivized to move at a quick pace.

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Speaker 5: But in fairness, that's already what's been happening, and so

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Speaker 5: I think by and Marge, the NBA game is pretty good.

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Speaker 5: It's just when you see all these outliers of teams

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Speaker 5: just settle for threes even if there is an open shot.

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Speaker 2: The way Tom with Mark Medina Medina Magic. You hear

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Speaker 2: him every Saturday night here on the Bernie Fraddleshield midnight

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Speaker 2: Pacific time. Very much finger on the pulse in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I guess Russell Westbrook finally emolded he was fine to

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Speaker 2: whopping thirty five thousands for making a scene gesture. And

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Speaker 2: when the nets, you know, the Nuggets lost to the

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Speaker 2: next a couple of days ago. Is there much beyond that?

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Speaker 2: To reporter? Is it just a Russell Westbrook takeup?

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00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's pretty standard operating procedure. The NBA doesn't

861
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 5: like players show voting, and especially when it involves obscenities,

862
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: whether it's in front of you know, an opposing team's

863
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: bench or fans. And so I would imagine this isn't

864
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: the first time, want to be the last time that

865
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 5: the NBA slaps a player with thirty five thousand dollars

866
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 5: five for doing.

867
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: That, right, which is what ten cents to normal people.

868
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 5: So let's talk going to NBA cares too.

869
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: That's a good that's that part's a good part. That

870
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: part's a good part. So let's talk about the NBA

871
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Cup because I thought about it. The Lakers, you know,

872
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: are the defending champions. Is anybody ever repeated in NBA

873
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: Cup NBA.

874
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: History, Well, we won't happen this year. They've been officially eliminated.

875
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 5: So yeah, you know they're they're nursed that championship hangover.

876
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 5: You know what, it might be the Boston Celtics that

877
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 5: get in, they'll they'll resume that rivalry that they had

878
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 5: with the actual NBA championships. But yeah, the teams have

879
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 5: been in contention right now as Orlando, New York, Milwaukee, Detroit,

880
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: and Boston and East and then out west it's Portland,

881
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 5: the Clippers, the Spurs, and the Suns, and then maybe Dallas,

882
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 5: Denver and Memphis. So there's a lot still hanging in

883
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 5: the balance for Tuesday's games in group play, and that's

884
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 5: what things will be sorted out as far as he

885
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: plays in the quarterfinals and beyond.

886
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: So I know that Atlanta, Houston, and Golden State of

887
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: clinched their groups, but it's my understanding. You have to

888
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: correct me. The Lakers are in trouble because they have

889
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: a negative twenty four point differential.

890
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 5: Well they're completely eliminated.

891
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: So that's efficient. Okay, it's efficient. Okay, very good talking

892
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: with Mark Medina Medina Magic. All right, So let's move

893
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: ahead here the All Star Game. The reason I keep

894
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: bringing it up is because I mean, we're already into

895
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: December and now Mark and snap your fingers, it'll be February,

896
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: and talking about all kinds of things and possibilities. And

897
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: has the NBA officially reached out to Kate mcclark is

898
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: Allegedly they were going to do that and try to

899
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: come up with something.

900
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 5: I haven't heard. That does doesn't mean it hasn't happened,

901
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: but I would be very surprised, Berne, that we hear

902
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 5: any news officially until after the NBA Cup is over.

903
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 5: The NBA has a way, you know, intentionally, where they

904
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 5: want to focus on the current tent pole event to

905
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 5: be the focus and not have anything else to distract that.

906
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, my hunch is that the league office and

907
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: the players union they're all brainstorming different, you know, ideas,

908
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 5: and we'll see what it actually looks like. But I

909
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 5: don't think they'll announce anything until the NBA Cup tournament

910
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 5: is over.

911
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: I think that's that, Or when's the final game? I'm sorry, I.

912
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 5: Think it's December fifteenth.

913
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that was talked about,

914
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: and this actually makes a lot of sense to me,

915
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: in lieu of an NBA All Star Game play a

916
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: doubleheader at the semi final games in February. Why does

917
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: it need to be wrapped up in November or December?

918
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 2: Play it played during All Star Game weekend.

919
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing, Bernie, I mean, All Star weekends

920
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: already loaded with so much stuff to begin with. I

921
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 5: think that that would, you know, compound more problems than

922
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: solve those. I think the reason why they had the

923
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 5: NBA Cup, you know, scheduled for shortly after opening week,

924
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: is that there is that gap between now and Christmas

925
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 5: where you know, most people and still are focusing on football,

926
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 5: whether it's the NFL, college football, or both. But if

927
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 5: you're going to do this, you know, after Christmas, then

928
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you run the calendar issues with

929
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 5: it overlapping with All Star weekend, it ran into the

930
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. It kind of interfering with teams trying to

931
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 5: ramp up for the playoffs. So the sense that I

932
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: got when you know, talking to league people in Vegas,

933
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 5: let's say that was in twenty twenty three, before you know,

934
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 5: the the unveiling of last season It's an all growing

935
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 5: season tournament, was that they felt like this was the

936
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 5: best calendar because of all those other things. They didn't

937
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 5: want the other ten pole events to get in the

938
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 5: way of that.

939
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: I understand that, and my thought was, you're going to

940
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: get into mid December before the semifinals and finals are played,

941
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: which are leading to Christmas and Mark I honestly just

942
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: think the NBA is heading toward a collision course like

943
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: the NFL had with the Pro Bowl. The players don't

944
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: want to play in it. Nobody cares, so why play it.

945
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: You can fill it with something else and bring eyes

946
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: to the NBA, and it just you know, the the

947
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: NBA Cup has worked, So I thought, maybe you'd kill

948
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: two birds with one stone and actually played games where

949
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: guys are willing to compete. They'd kind of against the

950
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: record and kind of against the NBA Cup. Finally, you

951
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: honest one game out, but forty point. Also, Milwaukee's up

952
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: over five hundred. Are they writing the ship?

953
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 5: They're running the ship? And Yanatazukumpo is the primary reason

954
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 5: why they're writing the ship because, as you mentioned, he's

955
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 5: put a lot of good numbers. He leads the league

956
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 5: right now and scoring, he's back in the MVP conversation.

957
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 5: But I think Giannis has sustain this kind of play

958
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 5: because this is what Jannis does. You know, scores a

959
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 5: high clip, he's ranked fifth and rebounds twenty to assists.

960
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 5: But I don't know if it's sustainable from a team standpoint,

961
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 5: because you know, they they've had a favorable schedule. You know,

962
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 5: they didn't really play a lot of tough teams beyond Houston.

963
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 5: You know, Indiana has been under achieving this season. Chicago's

964
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 5: an average team and they're not a great defensive team.

965
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 5: But I think the good thing is their star players

966
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 5: plan its best and they need it because they were

967
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: already you know, I think competing with Philadelphia for how

968
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: much worse a team can get after having a lot

969
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: of champion trip expectations helping the season no very true.

970
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: Mark, appreciate all your efforts, Appreciate you joining me Thanksgiving night,

971
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there'll be plenty of stuff between now

972
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: and next Saturday. As we are into December and the

973
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: NBA season is starting to take shape. Joy your Sunday Mark.

974
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

975
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: Mark Medina Medina Magic. We have them every Saturday night

976
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: covering the NBA midnight Pacific on the Bernie Frattle Show,

977
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: and you can see why. Hey, football fans, be sure

978
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning, beginning

979
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: at ten am Eastern seventy am Pacific for Countdown to

980
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Speaker 2: Kickoff presented by BETMGM, Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, and professional

981
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982
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,719
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983
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984
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: and the iHeartRadio app. Well, what you saw take place

985
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: today in Columbus with all the flag planting and all

986
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: that Michieg goss, Well it didn't just happen in Michigan.

987
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: I'll share with you where that's sprouted up in other areas.

988
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: We have a new trend we'll see. I'm Bernie Fraddworck

989
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,720
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990
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Speaker 2: and get an extra five percent off. Well, it's the

1003
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: most wonderful time of the year. Yeah. College football Rivalry

1004
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: Week this weekend gave us plenty of upsets. Michigan over

1005
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Syracuse over Miami, South Carolina over Clemson, and

1006
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: in the in state rivalry games they were heated too

1007
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: Florida Florida State, NC State North Carolina YadA YadA ya.

1008
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: But we also saw a particular new fangled trend, winning

1009
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: teams planting their flag on the opposing teams midfields, not

1010
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: like this has never happened before, but Saturday it was

1011
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: an endemic. As a result, you can imagine, there were

1012
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: some skirmishes and brawls. It broke out now Michigan, Ohio

1013
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: State gave us our first flag plant of the day.

1014
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: This one was so heated. Hell, they even got pepper

1015
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: spray involved. Would you like fresh ground pepper with that?

1016
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 2: Celebration got started Saturday afternoon in Columbus, Michigan a three

1017
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: touchdown under low. They shot the Buckeyes thirteen to ten

1018
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: for a four stree year and that also knocked Ohio

1019
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: State out of the Big Ten title gaming. It's Oregon,

1020
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: Penn State gets to go now. And after the game,

1021
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: a Michigan player he tried planning the Michigan block in

1022
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 2: flag right at Ohio State's midfield. The Buckeye players, who

1023
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: were at the opposite end zone came over and immediately

1024
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: confronted the Wolverine player. As you can imagine, after that,

1025
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: it was all fun and games. The scuffle was so

1026
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: bad the Ohio State Police administered pepper spray to try

1027
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: to disperse the players. Yeah, I guess following the game

1028
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: there are officers from I guess there's gonna be an investigation.

1029
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: Whatever the hell you saw it on camera? What are

1030
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: we investigating? Right? I don't know what do you do?

1031
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 5: Right?

1032
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: But that wasn't the only flag plant you saw on Saturday,

1033
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: North Carolina. Also check that North Carolina State also attempted

1034
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: to plan a flag on North Carolina's midfield. So North

1035
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: Carolina and NC State they meet on rivalry rec almost

1036
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 2: every year. Although both teams entered this game just six

1037
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: and five and far from the ACC race, it was

1038
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: a significant game. It was North Carolina's their head coach MATC. Brown,

1039
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: who had his best years at Texas. His final regular

1040
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: season game. He'll be moving on after six seasons, and

1041
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 2: these are prideful games. He's in state games. Make no mistake.

1042
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: You played these games for a reason, or there's no

1043
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: point to keep him score. Un C led twenty to

1044
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: thirteen in what had been kind of a while back

1045
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: and forth fourth quarter. In the game's final fifteen minutes,

1046
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: there were six lead changes, a blockfield goal, a failed

1047
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: two point conversion, and ultimately NC State prevailed thirty five

1048
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: thirty to win their third straight in this series. And

1049
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: after the victory, the wolf Pack players attempted to plant

1050
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: a wolf Pack flag at North Carolina's midfield, but a

1051
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 2: Tar Hills player wasn't having it through the flag off

1052
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: to the sideline. Naturally, players got into it from there.

1053
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: You can see all the videos easily on Twitter. That

1054
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: one was a little bit more of an all out brawl.

1055
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: The Ohio State Michigan was a lot of pushing and shoving,

1056
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: but that one. After the game, the North Carolina State

1057
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: head coach Dave dorn He spoke about what the ravelry

1058
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: means as well as winning three in or over North Carolina.

1059
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: He said, quote, there's a reason I haven't been able

1060
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: to wear blue for twelve years. So these guys take

1061
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 2: this serious. Man. By the way, the win not for nothing.

1062
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: North Carolina State gets to go to a bowl game

1063
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: for a third straight season. So bragging rights. Beat your

1064
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: end state rival Mac Brown's final game and NC State

1065
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: will get to go bowling. But it didn't end there Florida.

1066
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: Florida State also ended with some flag planting. Now the

1067
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: Gators who've really rallied under Billy Napier quite admirably. After

1068
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: starting out like a drunk crossing an icy street, the

1069
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 2: Gators are now six and four. They entered the game

1070
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: riding some huge momentum back to back wins over LSU

1071
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 2: and old Miss Florida State. Meanwhile, they're having a historically

1072
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 2: bad season, you know. Ever since getting snubbed from the

1073
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: playoff last year, they're two and ten, they're two and

1074
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: nine this year. Still, it's Florida State. There's a lot

1075
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: of pride in this in state rivalry game, so it

1076
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: was expected to be expected to be a decent matchup.

1077
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: Florida State just simply overmatched. Florida took care of business.

1078
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: The Knowles offense is struggling badly. They managed eleven points.

1079
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: They lost thirty one to eleven. Now, after the game

1080
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: once again and the game was played at Florida State,

1081
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: a Florida player planted a Gator flag at Florida State's

1082
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: midfield and the Seminoles logo. Well, naturally, the FSU players

1083
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: they were pissed off about this, and after the game,

1084
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: Florida State coach Mike Norvelle was seen seemingly trying to

1085
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: make a comment about the gesture to Billy Napier after

1086
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: the game, and it appeared to be yelling at Billy Napier,

1087
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: who tried to make peace, and then Norvell is the

1088
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: one who grabbed the Florida flag and threw it away

1089
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: from the logo. So after the game, both coaches kind

1090
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: of addressed their respective thoughts on the incident, and as

1091
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: you can imagine, there's a lot of platitudes. Billy Napier

1092
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: did say, you know, it's not who we want to

1093
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: be as a program. It's embarrassing to me, and it's

1094
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: a distraction to a really well played football game. We

1095
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: shouldn't have done that. We won't do that going forward.

1096
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: There will be consequences. Well for what Okay, interestingly enough,

1097
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: the Texas Texas Texas A and M game, which hadn't

1098
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: been played in fourteen years, and it's a shame they

1099
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: don't play it every year. It's stupid. But now that

1100
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: they're in the SEC, they should playing every year. But

1101
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: remember Texas A and M left for the SEC, I

1102
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: think in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and they haven't played since. Well,

1103
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: the Longhorns in the winner of this game. You talk

1104
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: about a game for high stakes. The winner of this

1105
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: game was going to punch her ticket to the SEC

1106
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: championship game against Georgia. Well, Texas prevailed seven teen seven.

1107
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: They clinched the spot in the SEC title game. And

1108
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: somebody must have sent a memo to Sarkesian because it

1109
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: was later in the day he was actively hurting his

1110
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: players away from the midfield logo. All right. He was

1111
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: even coolter as saying, no need for that. We can

1112
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 2: celebrate in other areas. That's how you handle that. Take

1113
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: your victory, flip it forward and play for bigger things now.

1114
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: That actually drew praise from Kirk kurb Street and Chris

1115
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: Fowler for pulling his team away from the anam logo.

1116
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 2: And although again it was the first time that since

1117
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: twenty eleven that these two rivals and they are bitter rivals,

1118
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: trust me on this. It was a civil ending of

1119
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: the game. And now Georgia will face Texas in the

1120
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. And I understand that later on in

1121
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: the day he made the statement, I had watched Michigan

1122
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: and Ohio State getting a bra from my hotel room.

1123
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: He goes, this, this isn't something we want to do,

1124
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: all right. I con I continue to marvel at what

1125
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: Michigan did on Saturday, as I said, yeah, I grabbed

1126
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: the twenty one points, and I know that Ryan Day

1127
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: was six and twelve against the number in November games

1128
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: at home, and now he's six and thirteen. And you know,

1129
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: based on the money line, if you bet one hundred dollars,

1130
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: you brought back nine to seventy eight. Michigan had eight

1131
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: percent chance a winning the game. But one gentleman who

1132
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: was steadfast in his belief that Michigan would win this game.

1133
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: You hear him every Saturday with Martin Weiss in the afternoons.

1134
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: Let's say hello to VJ Husky. VJ. You're still about

1135
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: six feet off the ground, man.

1136
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 4: Man, I'm about thirty thousand feet off the ground right now. Baby.

1137
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 4: Hell to the viscious Barney.

1138
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: So let's kill it right now, baby. So let's take you.

1139
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: Let's take people behind the curtain. And I texted you

1140
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: heading into halftime when you could clearly see that Michigan

1141
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: was winning the line of scrimmage. Hey, big felly, want

1142
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: to turn your radar down just a titch, you get

1143
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: an echo.

1144
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 4: I don't have a radio on. Let me take to

1145
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 4: the airpiece out and just put you on. My apologies, Barney.

1146
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: No, no, no problem, man, It's just it's all good.

1147
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: I want the folks to hear what you got to say.

1148
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, no problem, No, pub.

1149
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: I could clearly you could clearly see uh, I can

1150
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: hear you. You could clearly see that that Michigan was

1151
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 2: winning the line of scrimmage. Okay, they just simply were. Uh.

1152
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 2: And that's Michigan football. Block and tackle, run the ball,

1153
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: stop to run. So I texted you, I said, hey,

1154
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: if Michigan wins today, come on tonight and you can

1155
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: take your victory lap. And you texted back at All

1156
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: Caps when Michigan wins, I'll come up, says keep it,

1157
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,479
Speaker 2: keep it real.

1158
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

1159
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: I gotta ask you though, And by the way, one

1160
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: hundred dollars would bring back nine hundred and seventy eight dollars.

1161
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: Did you manage to get a bet down on this game?

1162
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: Yep, fifty on Michigan on the money line. Baby.

1163
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a nice little payday. I uh, I put

1164
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: a couple of units on the on the spread. I

1165
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: will say this, VJ. I can't remember when a defending

1166
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: national champ was getting twenty one points the following year,

1167
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: but be that as it may, I just grabbed the points.

1168
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: I never once believed that Michigan would win this game.

1169
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: I knew they'd fight and they'd hang around, but I

1170
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: they never believe they win. So one of the factors

1171
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: you considered in sticking to your prediction.

1172
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: Well, all year long, I always looked at Will Howard.

1173
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: I've always looked at that. And what was really interesting

1174
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: about that is if you remember, coming out of spring practice,

1175
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 4: Ohio State did not name him the starter. That was

1176
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: alarming to me because he was a transfer portal guy

1177
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 4: that they got. You got a guy in the transfer

1178
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 4: portal coming out of spring practice, he's not named the starter. Okay,

1179
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 4: then there's some things that somebody sees there that they

1180
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: weren't comfortable naming him was starting now. I thought Will

1181
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: Howard had a good maybe great season, if you want

1182
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 4: to say that. But when you're coming from Kansas State, Okay,

1183
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: that is not a football factory. Unless your name is

1184
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: Michael Bishop, you're on the cover of NTAA football, you're

1185
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 4: playing for Bill Snyder. I don't want to hear that

1186
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 4: this guy is gonna come and be the savior. And

1187
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: I've been saying all year long, he will throw the

1188
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 4: game away, He'll give the game up. He doesn't make

1189
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 4: good decisions. Let's go back to the Oregon game. There's

1190
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 4: a throw that he can make on that last play

1191
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: to the outside. But he doesn't make the throw. He

1192
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 4: touched the ball and runs. Why the clock is winding down,

1193
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 4: You don't have time outs. You have to throw the

1194
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 4: ball into the ground or throw it to the sideline

1195
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 4: so you have an opportunity to kick the field goal.

1196
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: He runs, scrambles and slides. Game over. That was a mistake.

1197
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: I said, Okay, there's Will Howard for you guys right there.

1198
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 4: You fast forward to today. This game is bigger than

1199
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 4: anybody really realizes. Sometimes. Last night, you and I and

1200
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 4: Arnie Spaniel roll last night and Arnie was dead fast on. Oh,

1201
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 4: I don't think this rivalry has what it has what

1202
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: it used to be thirty years ago. Are you kidding me?

1203
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 4: It's anything? And you said it perfectly in your response said,

1204
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 4: and if anything, this thing has been pushed up, boiled

1205
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 4: way more than it used to be because of everything

1206
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 4: with Connor Stallion. In three games in a row in

1207
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 4: the sign feeling, Harvball get suspended, Harvall leaves for the

1208
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 4: NFL Ryan Day. They spend allegedly twenty one million dollars

1209
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 4: of ANIL deals to stack this team. Get everybody to

1210
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 4: come back. You go get Juggins, you go get Caleb Downs,

1211
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: which is probably the best order of defender in the nation.

1212
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: You are supposed to win this football.

1213
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: And don't forget Chip Kelly and Jim Knowles too. They

1214
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: went all in for twenty million large, Yeah, twenty Jeff.

1215
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 4: Kelly leaves a head coaching position to take a backward

1216
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 4: step to be an offensive coordinator, and he was supposed

1217
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: to fix all the offensive woes that anything happened with

1218
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 4: Ohio State in the past. But when you come into

1219
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: this rivalry and you're not really born from this robbery,

1220
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 4: then it's a different type of pressure. And I never

1221
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 4: saw Will Howard as a quarterback that can deal with that.

1222
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 4: Today nineteen or thirty three, four Am easily won seventy

1223
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 4: five a touchdown in two picks. Michigan ran for three

1224
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: less yards more what less, three less yards than what

1225
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: he passed for. Michigan ran for buck won seventy two.

1226
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 4: Last point I'll make about today's game, Bernie on is

1227
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 4: old schoolless youth football. One on one run the ball,

1228
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 4: stop the run, rush the passer, protect the passer, don't

1229
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 4: commit super penalties, don't turn the ball over. You're within

1230
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 4: fifty five percent of your game. Ohio State did not

1231
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 4: do that today. They ran for seventy seven yards. And

1232
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: we all know the great stat in this in this

1233
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 4: year that think it's over, like twenty something years, twenty

1234
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 4: two years in a row, the Russian Battle is gonna

1235
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 4: win the football game.

1236
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: So that's a pretty damn good analysis. And with respect

1237
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: to your rationalization, Ohio State was shut out in the

1238
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: second half. Allow of that has to be on your

1239
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: quarterback because when the player breaks down, you have to look.

1240
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State's got NFL wide receivers and Michigan was without

1241
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: Will Johnson. I mean you could not have had a

1242
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: more oddball narrative heading into this game. Michigan starts a

1243
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: quarterback who's a walk on on, a cancer survivor. They

1244
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: lose seventeen starters, YadA, YadA, YadA. I think you see

1245
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: yan Well Johnson and that game. Do you feel like

1246
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: the moment was too big for him?

1247
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely. You have to be born into this thing, man,

1248
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 4: That's what makes it so great. This is this is

1249
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 4: Duke Carolina, this is Yankees Red Sox, this is Dallas Cowboys,

1250
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 4: this is Dallas Cowboys, and Well used to be watching

1251
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: the reskids but with the commanders, you if you have

1252
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 4: to be born into this robbery to understand that, you

1253
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: just don't walk in it. As a transfer, I think

1254
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna lead a team to victory in a season

1255
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 4: that means so much, Bernie. I can't think about an

1256
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 4: Ohio State season that hung in the balance of all

1257
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 4: or nothing more than this season in the last twenty

1258
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 4: five years of Ohio State football. When you talk about

1259
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: all the money they paid, the nil the coaches, the players,

1260
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 4: and all of that. Fine, but you're talking about a

1261
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 4: six and five Michigan team. You talk about no Will Johnson.

1262
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 4: Do we want to talk about no Lovelin today? That's

1263
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: the best tight end in football? Do we want to

1264
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 4: talk about no Donovan Edwards. After the middle of the

1265
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 4: first quarter, for the rest of the game today, Michigan

1266
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 4: was down to one running back. One running back. Today

1267
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 4: Mullins ran thirty two cares for a buck sixteen. That's

1268
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: only three and some change of pop. But you just

1269
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 4: got to keep feeding the horse. And as the game

1270
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 4: went on, you can feel the vice grip tightening. You

1271
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: can fill it through the television, how that thing was

1272
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 4: starting to get tight. Last point. Joe Klatt who I love.

1273
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: I love him and Gus Johnson calling games together. Joe

1274
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 4: Klatt was making it a point to say, why do

1275
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: you keep bunching up trying to prove your tofert in Michigan.

1276
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 4: You have the advantage on the outside exactly, Ryan Day

1277
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 4: have the advantage on the outside. You know who? You

1278
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 4: know what their leading receiver was today, Carlos six catches

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Speaker 4: fifty eight yards. Bernie. He had four catches in the

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 4: first quarter, which means he had two catches for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the game.

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Speaker 2: So I got we got about a minute. But I

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: want to get your your thoughts on this. You know,

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: Casey Stangel once said teams can't beat the Yankees because

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: he gets stuck staring at the pen stripes. I really listen.

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01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: I was around the Michigan program fourteen years, cut my

1287
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: teeth at WTK and n I recovered ten of those games.

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: Michigan's DNA showed up today big time. You have to

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01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 2: be there to see what it looks like. Ryan Day

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: does not have that. I got nothing against Ryan Day.

1291
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: Beats everybody not named Michigan. But they are going to

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: get in the playoffs with the Ryan Day Will Howard combination.

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: They're not gonna have to play at Michigan. How do

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01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 2: you think Ohio State fairs in the playoffs twelve.

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01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 4: And eleven, they're going they're going home early. They're gonna

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01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 4: have to go on the road. Possibly, they're not.

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: Probably probably, yes, better, I.

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 4: Probably have to go on the road in the first round.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're done this, This is over.

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 5: Man.

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 4: They're gonna lose in the first round. If they get

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: to the second round, it's gonna end there. Just one

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 4: quick last point. If you want to fire Ryan Day's fine,

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 4: Ohio State. Ohio State fans, but be weary, be very weary.

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01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 4: This could be a decade setback. Remember when Lloyd Carr

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 4: walked away from Michigan and we brought in Rich Rodriguez

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01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 4: and that let the Brady vote. That was a decade

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01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 4: of average to bad football. If you fire Ryan Day,

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 4: you damn well better nail the next coach because you're

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 4: gonna fire him in four or five years if it's

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 4: not good, and then you're gonna bring in another coach.

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: And then it took Michigan eight years with Harvball to

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 4: get back to the National championship. That was almost twenty

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01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: years that Lloyd Carr walked away, be very wary about

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 4: firing im. Ryan Day if you want to put your

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: better nail the next tick, the next tick. I think

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 4: they go home in the first round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Burner, Yeah, good, good stuff. I talked to my moles today.

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01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm ninety percent sure they're not going to fire him.

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01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: But I got to say, if they're one and done

1321
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, it's going to be a gloomy you know,

1322
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: winter and spring for Ohio State, very gloomy with a

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01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: big cloud over their head. And guess what, they get

1324
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 2: to go to ann Arbor next year. So like VJ.

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Speaker 4: Joy, your son, go ahead Underwood as our quarterback, the

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 4: number one recruit we flip from LSU. Have fun.

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: You know what. We're going to have you on in

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01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: a few weeks to talk because I was there when

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01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: they made all you know Ohio State. When Gaga about

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01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 2: Terrell Pryor coming out of Inkster, I saw him in

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: high school and there's a lot of similarities. I think

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01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: this kid's got all the talent in the world. But

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: you know, Catholic Central picked them off twice and made

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: them look human. So we'll see. But you know what,

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01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: at least they got a guy that can hitch their

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01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: wagon too. Good stuff VJ. Really good analysis, Man God

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: blessed Man, One Love and Gold Blue all right, outstanding VJ. Husky.

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01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: He called it man the give the man his due.

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01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: He made no bones about the fact Michigan is winning

1340
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: this damn game, and we fleshed it out. This wasn't

1341
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: just some blowhard state that if you're wrong, no one remembers.

1342
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: He really nailed an angle there regarding Will Howard that

1343
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten about the spring deal thing, and I didn't

1344
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: know if it was because Ryan Day was just doing

1345
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: that to create competition. But look, like I said, you

1346
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: don't go get a guy in the portal and bring

1347
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: him in so you can play games. Somebody must have

1348
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 2: saw something, and you know what, there's a certain championship

1349
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: DNA that some guys are just born with. And that

1350
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: with all due respect to Will Howard, because he's talented

1351
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: and he's had a good season, he's had three good

1352
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: games in a row. But when it mattered most, if

1353
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: there's an old thing, can you be great when the

1354
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: situation demands greatness? And with all due respect to Will Howard,

1355
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,919
Speaker 2: that was not a tour to Force performance on Saturday.

1356
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: Top credit to the Michigan Wolverines one percent, Top credit

1357
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: to Sharon Moore. And somehow we got through that whole

1358
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: conversation without mentioning Charon Moore the man. I'm sick of

1359
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: hearing about Lincoln Riley. I'm sick of hearing about these

1360
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: other guys that they prop up on a pedestal that

1361
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 2: haven't done a damn thing, and all Charon Moore has

1362
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: done his preside over a Mullig season, that everything could

1363
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: have gone wrong, and look what happened. He channeled Bill

1364
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: sham Becker from nineteen sixty nine. I'm telling you, Michigan

1365
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 2: could really build on this. We'll see if they do.

1366
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 2: Coming up, we have got to flip to the NFL.

1367
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: We just have too much to talk about, and you know,

1368
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: we'll start a little bit later. We're gonna update on

1369
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: the number one seeds in wildcard upsets, and we're gonna

1370
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a thing called the NFL Pythagoream theorem.

1371
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: And based on records and based on their statistics, does

1372
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: the record really match the statistic? You may be you

1373
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: may be pleasantly surprised, or may be unpleasantly surprised. We'll

1374
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: don't have to share with you. We'll do that in

1375
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: the one o'clock hour. But coming up, we're gonna have

1376
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,879
Speaker 2: a little fun with numbers as we head into NFL

1377
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: Week thirteen, which kicks off here now. We kicks off

1378
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: here now in about nine hours and eighteen minutes. I'm

1379
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. We are coming to you line from the

1380
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tirack dot com studios. Don't

1381
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 2: go away, you're listening to the Bernie Fradder Show on

1382
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right back on the Bernie's out

1383
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: of the show, Fox Sports Radio, come to you live from the

1384
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: tyrak dot com studios here in Las Vegas. Time to

1385
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 2: jump with both feet into the NFL as the NFL

1386
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,839
Speaker 2: season is very much taking shape. Trust me, they always

1387
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: remember what you'll do in December. Start out a little

1388
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: fun with numbers. Let's start with the number four. That's

1389
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: the number of Tampa Bay Buccaneers players who actually ran

1390
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: for a TV in the Bucks thirty to seven route

1391
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: of the completely listless and no more Daniel Jones New

1392
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: York Giants. By the way, quarterback Baker Mayfield was one

1393
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: of them, even though this was his first game this

1394
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:47,440
Speaker 2: season without a touchdown pass four different players ran for touchdowns.

1395
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,919
Speaker 2: How About the number six that's the number of teams

1396
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens, the Denver Broncos, the Houston Texans, the

1397
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, the New England Patriots, and the Washington Commandos

1398
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: who have yet to have a bye week this season.

1399
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: How about that all of them will do so next

1400
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 2: week in Week fourteen. For future planning. How about the

1401
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: number seven. That's the number of sacks Tennessee quarterback Will

1402
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: Levis suffered in the first half alone of the Titans

1403
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: win over the Texans last week. Tennessee's a little pesky man.

1404
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: You just can't trust. We've all been burned so many

1405
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: times by Tennessee. But they're catching points again on Sunday,

1406
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: and there may be some valua there. They do have

1407
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: the number two overall defense. How about the number twelve.

1408
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: This one's abute, Maybe justin or the Baltimore kicker can

1409
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: get somebody's juju. Number twelve leaves the number twelve that's

1410
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: the number of field goals Houston kicker Kimie Fairbairn has

1411
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: hit from more than fifty yards this season. It's already

1412
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: an NFL record, and we've still got six games left.

1413
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: How about the number nineteen. That's the number of seasons

1414
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: Kansas City head coach Andy Reid has won at least

1415
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 2: ten regular season games. That's the third most in league history,

1416
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: right behind Don Shula and some guy named Bill Belichick.

1417
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 2: Both of those guys reached double digit victories twenty times.

1418
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: How about the number of twenty five. That's the number

1419
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: of consecutive games that the Detroit Lions have scored a

1420
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: touchdown on the ground. The Lions do have one hell

1421
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: of a running game. Speaking of running games, how about

1422
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: Seakuon Barkley. My god, what a twenty twenty four season

1423
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: he is having. It could happen to a better guy

1424
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: since two thousand. Since the year two thousand, only four

1425
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 2: running backs have won the NFL's MVP Award, Marshall Falk, Seawn,

1426
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: Alexander Ladanian, Tomlinson, and Adrian Peterson and some pretty damn

1427
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: good company. And Philadelphia won last Sunday Night thirty seven

1428
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: to twenty over the Rams. I believe that MVP discussions

1429
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: are underway for Sakuon Barkley, who has all the bona

1430
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: fide requisite data to become the fifth NFL running back

1431
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: to win an MVP. He had three hundred and two

1432
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage Sunday night. It's only happened twice in

1433
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: the history of primetime football. Including two runs of at

1434
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: least seventy yards, That's the tenth highest single game mark

1435
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: in NFL history. He's on pace for two one and

1436
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: fifty one yards that would beat Eric Dickerson and his

1437
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 2: single season record of twenty one oh five. And I

1438
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 2: know you're saying, well, they're going to play one more game. Hey, hey,

1439
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: it's been forty years man, no one's touched Eric Dickerson's record.

1440
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: And I remember that season very very well. By the way,

1441
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: the Eagles, his Eagles have won seventh straight. They're nine

1442
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 2: and two. In great gratitude to sake one on Barkley,

1443
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe the Eagles will be the Lions' biggest

1444
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 2: nemesis to come out of the NFC. I absolutely believe that,

1445
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 2: and I will be very surprised, frankly, if the Eagles

1446
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: don't win in Baltimore on Sunday. So, you know, they

1447
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: say people want to imply that the running back position

1448
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: is dead. No, it's not. It was never dead. You

1449
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: just find out they're interchangeable, that's all. It's still a

1450
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: very much needed position. Because when Clyde Edwards Hilaire was

1451
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: drafted in the first round three years ago and the

1452
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs go to win the Super Bowl without him, they

1453
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: plug in a seventh rounder out of Rutgers name Isaiah Pacheco,

1454
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: and he runs for one hundred and thirty yards and

1455
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: the Chiefs win the Super Bowl. And you see time

1456
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: and time again a guy come off the bench and

1457
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: replace the running back and production doesn't go down. The

1458
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: running back position is very, very valuable. They just happen

1459
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: to be more interchangeable. Except I don't know if there's

1460
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: a replacement for Saquon Barkley. Keep him upright, because I

1461
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: think with Saquon Barkley on the field, even Nick Siriani

1462
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: can't screw this up. Coming up, we continue on with

1463
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: the NFL. You're listening to the Bernie Frattles Show, keep

1464
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. That's right,

1465
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: you heard the man, The Bernie Frattles Show keeps Roland

1466
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: right along. My name is Bernie Frattle. We're coming along

1467
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,480
Speaker 2: from the tyrat dot Com studios here in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 2: football playoff picture is taking shape, and it's time as

1473
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: we get into December, to analyze and give some context

1474
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 2: as to what all this means pee wee when it

1475
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: comes to the NFL. Because we're only about thirty seven

1476
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: days away from the NFL's regular season finale on January fifth,

1477
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: So let's check in on some key battles. Here's what

1478
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: I think you might want to know based on playoff

1479
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: projections if they the season were to end to day,

1480
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: and some speculation. Okay, so remember this year, on this

1481
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: playoff format, only one team of the NFC and one

1482
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: team in the AFC get a first round by as

1483
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 2: it stands right now, because the Chiefs and Lions have

1484
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: already played. The Chiefs played on Black Friday and the

1485
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: Lions played on Thanksgiving Day. They both have identical eleven

1486
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: to one records, and they are frankly favorites to lock

1487
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: down the respective number one seeds and secure what I

1488
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: think will be an invaluable week off for Kansas City,

1489
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 2: basically as business as usual. It'd be the fifth by

1490
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 2: fifth by Patrick Mahomes has only been in the league

1491
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: seven years, and he's the first quarterback in NFL history

1492
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: to go to the playoffs as a starter his first

1493
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: seven years, and this would be his fifth buy but

1494
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: in Detroit, completely uncharted territory. The Lions haven't had a

1495
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 2: first round by since nineteen ninety one. That team was

1496
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 2: twelve and four. On January fifth, nineteen ninety two, they

1497
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: beat the Cowboys thirty eight to six. And I remember

1498
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: John Madden saying you're looking at the two teams of

1499
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 2: the nineties. Well he was half right. Dallas went on

1500
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: to win three Super Bowls. The Lions never won a

1501
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: playoff game the rest of the nineties and didn't even

1502
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: win a playoff game until just this past January. They

1503
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: went there was a drought of what thirty one years.

1504
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders carried them to the number two seed a

1505
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: trip to the Conference finals. They lost to Washington, who

1506
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 2: went on to beat Buffalo in the Super Bowl. But

1507
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: I digress. Kansas City business as usual, Detroit, first time

1508
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 2: in thirty three years, they'd have a buy in the playoffs.

1509
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: But there's always that big butt peewee. You cannot go

1510
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: to sleep on the Buffalo bills and the film They'll

1511
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 2: fee Eagles. Now they're both nine and two, and actually

1512
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo will play Detroit here in a couple weeks. Each

1513
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: of them have about, according to these metrics, if you

1514
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: want to do the nerd thing, about a thirty percent

1515
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: chance of landing the number one seed. And remember Buffalo's

1516
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: beating Kansas City, so they'd hold a tiebreaker, which means

1517
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: the most important remaining game might actually be Buffalo's trip

1518
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: to Detroit in week fifteen. Otherwise, the remaining schedule for

1519
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo is the fifth easiest based on opponents win percentage. Well,

1520
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: the Eagles is tenth easiest. Now, don't forget about the Vikings. Also,

1521
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: they're nine and two, but they have the fourth toughest

1522
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 2: remaining schedule. But they could beat anybody they play that's

1523
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 2: in their path. But I'm already looking forward to this,

1524
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: not that I want to fast forward it, but I'm

1525
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: looking forward to this because their Week eighteen visit to

1526
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: Detroit could decide the NFC North And you cannot not

1527
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: look at this Detroit team that have some costs for concern.

1528
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: They got to play the Bears again, They got to

1529
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 2: play Green Bay, they got to play Buffalo, the Vikings

1530
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 2: the final game of the season, got to play the

1531
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. The injuries that the that the the

1532
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: Lions have been sustaining are frankly starting to get bothersome.

1533
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 2: They're stacking up. If you saw the Bears game Thursday,

1534
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 2: in the second half, the Bears all of a sudden

1535
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: magically started to move the ball. Well, that's because the

1536
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: pass rush wasn't getting home and you're not seeing the

1537
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 2: depth and Tenacity's still a good defense, but not what

1538
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: it was four or five weeks ago. But the offense

1539
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 2: they're going to have to continue to crank. But the

1540
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: defense mild caused for concern. And a guy like Malcolm

1541
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: Rodriguez Rodrigo, as you remember from you Know, Hard Knocks

1542
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: three years ago, two years ago, he's very versatile and

1543
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: he would have been a guy you could put a

1544
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: spy on Jalen Hurts should those two teams meet in

1545
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and now they won't be able to. So

1546
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: there's concern. There's you can't say there's not. It needs

1547
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: nothing to be worried about, but it's something that has

1548
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: to be front of mind if you're a Lion's and

1549
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 2: you're being honest. We'll see how they do Thursday night

1550
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: against Green Bay. There's a five point favorite. So what

1551
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: are in line or who are on line? Excuse me

1552
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: for the three AFC wild card spots. Well, right now,

1553
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: the Chargers are seven and four, the Ravens are eight

1554
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: and four, and the Broncos are seven and five. They

1555
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 2: frankly are very much in the driver's seat because they

1556
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 2: have commanding leaves over the Dolphins, who are now five

1557
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: and seven. The Colts are five and seven, and the

1558
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,560
Speaker 2: Bengals are four and seven, and the Bengals got the

1559
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 2: Steelers coming to town later this afternoon. But I still

1560
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: feel like the Bengals prevailed. But bo they got work

1561
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: to do. Miami, you know, lost their three game winning streak.

1562
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 2: They lost to the Packers, and they'll have the Jets,

1563
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: Texans and forty nine Ers coming up. There are no

1564
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: easy games in the NFL. I don't I don't buy

1565
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: the I don't buy the crap about soft schedule. That's

1566
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: just crap. Some teams are better than others, so teams

1567
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: have better winning records than others. But in the National

1568
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Football League, you're out of your mind if you don't

1569
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: think anything can happen. You saw you listen. You saw

1570
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: what happened to the Lines and Bears on Thursday, and

1571
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: you certainly saw what happened with the Raiders and Chiefs.

1572
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 2: These were two scary games for those teams. I'm not

1573
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: buying it, but you still got to give the Colts

1574
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: some love. Even though you've got a hothouse team going

1575
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: outdoors to New York. I'm still not sold on Anthony

1576
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: Richardson by a long shot. They Treil Houston, who's seven

1577
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: and five, by two full games for the AFC South.

1578
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,839
Speaker 2: But you know, if if everybody who's telling me Anthony

1579
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 2: Richardson is really improving, don't tell me, show me. If

1580
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: it's theoretical, that's the case in theory that the Colts

1581
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: could make a run, and it starts check that I

1582
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: met I said the Jets. I was wrong. I met

1583
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: the Patriots. I think the Patriots are a good place Sunday.

1584
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: But if the Colts, you know, go into New England

1585
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: and win, then you got to you follow it up

1586
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: with the Broncos, Titans, Giants, and Jaguars. That's actually considered

1587
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: based on you know, strength to record, et cetera. The

1588
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: league's easiest schedule. Now, how about the NFC wildcard race? Now,

1589
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: the Vikes and Packers, they're both eight and three. They

1590
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: look like shoe In's, you know, the nerd metrics ninety percent.

1591
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: The Commandos seven and five, they're fighter to stay afloat.

1592
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: They've lost three straight games. They're regressing to the mean,

1593
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 2: and I believe that's going to continue now. Currently on

1594
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 2: the outside, four teams who can win on every game

1595
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: to Sunday. I like the Cardinals. I love Kyler Murray,

1596
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: I like their coach Jonathan Gannon. The Bucks I think

1597
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 2: are just too damn banged up, too damn banged up

1598
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: to to finish this deal. It's a shame because they

1599
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 2: got a lot of talent. The Rams five and six.

1600
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sold on the Rams. Whenever they get on

1601
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 2: the field with a good team, they're very much exposed.

1602
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 2: And we'll see if the Saints can handle them on Sunday,

1603
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: and if that happens, you can stick a FOURK in

1604
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: the Rams and be five and seven. Meanwhile, the Niners

1605
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: are just not buttoned up. They had to you know,

1606
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo tough call bad weather. As they got Christian McCaffrey.

1607
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 2: They got a banged up rock party start in a quarterback.

1608
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 2: But what I saw last week when the Niners, you know,

1609
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,879
Speaker 2: turned a ten point lead into a twenty eight point loss,

1610
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: and they did in style. Man, they had multiple turnovers,

1611
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: ten penalties. They don't look buttoned up right now. I

1612
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: guess you can keep an eye on the Falcons. They're

1613
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 2: six and five. They technically lead the NFC South, but

1614
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: they're in a bit of a precarious situation. They've lost

1615
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 2: two straight. They got to handle the hardball Chargers on Sunday.

1616
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 2: Then you get the Vikings and Commanders, the Bucks five

1617
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 2: and six if they went out against their remaining schedule,

1618
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: which is the third easiest, the Raiders Panthers twice. Don't

1619
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: go to sleep on the Panthers. They're starting to play

1620
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: some ball. They could They're they're not going anywhere, but

1621
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 2: they could pee on someone's parade pretty quickly. And then you

1622
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: got the Cowboys who are trending up if you want

1623
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: to say that, the SATs and Chargers, and now the

1624
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 2: AFC South is another cluster, and who knows eight and

1625
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: nine win that damn division. But somebody's gonna win it.

1626
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: On the other hand, it's never too soon to start

1627
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: speculating about who's gonna get the number one draft pick.

1628
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 2: Right now, the Raiders and Giants are duking it out.

1629
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: They're both two and nine. Checks actually to check that

1630
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: the Raiders are two and ten and the Giants they're

1631
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 2: two and nine, probably on their way to being two

1632
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 2: and ten. No, check that they're two and ten. Also,

1633
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: the lost to Dallas on Thanksgiving Sunday. The Jags two

1634
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 2: and nine will see what they can do. They're all

1635
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,839
Speaker 2: projected to win it the most fourteen games, four games.

1636
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,879
Speaker 2: Jacksonville does have the second easiest remaining schedule. It's likelier.

1637
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: I would say it's either going to be the Giants

1638
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 2: or Raiders that got the number one pick, right, but

1639
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 2: it can't count out the Panthers who are three and eight,

1640
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 2: the Pats who are three and nine, the Browns who

1641
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: are three and eight, are the Titans three and eight.

1642
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 2: They could get it, especially with upcoming schedules that they

1643
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: play now. Given the Bears easiest remaining opponent is the

1644
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: defending NFC chant forty nine Ers, there's a chance they're

1645
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: losing extends from five to eleven games over the remaining

1646
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 2: six weeks. If it does, the Bears would in with

1647
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: a four and thirteen record and a top three pick,

1648
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: which could entice their next head coach to perhaps want

1649
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 2: to join that club. We'll see. I know they say

1650
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: they're going to break the bank for Ben Johnson. I'll

1651
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: tell you why I wouldn't hire Ben Johnson, not because

1652
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: he's not brilliant. You don't need to bring in a

1653
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: coach there. You don't need to bring in a coach

1654
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 2: there who's got to learn on the job. And again,

1655
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is brilliant. But when you're the offensive coordinator

1656
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: of a National league football team, you're the head coach

1657
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: of the offense. When you're a defensive coordinator, you're the

1658
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 2: head coach of the defense. But when you are the

1659
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: head coach, you're the CEO, chief cook and bottle washer,

1660
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: surrogate father. You got to handle everything, and it's a

1661
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 2: tough deal. And if you put a guy in that

1662
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: role with an organization that just seems to be incredibly

1663
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: as dysfunctional as the Bears, I think you're asking for it.

1664
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 2: You know, when you've got veterans out there that have

1665
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 2: coached before, whether it's advanced, Joseph even at Cliff Kingsbury,

1666
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 2: Steve Spagnolo, Brian Flores. You might see Mike McCarthy in

1667
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: the mix. How about a Mike Vrabel. I don't think

1668
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick wants to go to Chicago, but these are

1669
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 2: guys who've been there, done that, not their first barbecue.

1670
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,839
Speaker 2: I think you got to get a veteran guy. However,

1671
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson also leads a potential list of first time

1672
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: NFL head coaches with a lot of talent, and I

1673
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: want to bring that list to you because I think

1674
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: you're going to see Bill Belichick in the NFL next year,

1675
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 2: but he's actually going to have some He's going to

1676
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: have some competition. There's going to be as many as

1677
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: seven jobs, but there's going to be a lot of candidates,

1678
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: and many of them experience, but many of them looking

1679
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: for their first gig. I'm going to run down that list.

1680
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: You'll kind a kick out of some of the names.

1681
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Football fans should be sure to tune into Fox Sports

1682
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,160
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1683
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1684
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1685
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio or back of the Bernie Fradle

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Speaker 2: Show Fox Sports Radio. Coming to life from the tarret

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. We are just

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Speaker 2: thirty nine minutes away from the dance Sensation sweep in

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01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 2: the nation. What kind of brand new fool you followed by?

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Speaker 2: What my name? But it's that time now There've already

1697
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: been two coaches fired in the National Football League, saying

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01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 2: there will be as many seven openings this year. On

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Speaker 2: Friday Night, I talked about the veteran coaches that are

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01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 2: going to get interviews, the guys that have had jobs before,

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01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Vance Joseph Cliff Kingsbury, Steve Spagnola, Brian Flores, Mike McCarthy.

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01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 2: I say McCarthy because I'm assuming he'll move on, but

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01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 2: he may get another job. Mike Rabel, who should be

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01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 2: highly sought after, and of course Bill Belichick. But how

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01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 2: about the potential first time NFL head coaches. We start

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01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 2: with Ben Johnson. Obviously, the oc Allion's been one of

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01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 2: the hottest names over the last two hiring cycles, and

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01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 2: there's no question that's going to be the case here

1709
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 2: coming up in January. Here's no guarantee you'll leave Detroit.

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01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: He's thirty eight years old, one of the league's best

1711
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 2: offensive minds. He's got an elite play caller. He had

1712
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 2: not only helped revive Jared Goff's career, but turned him

1713
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 2: into one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL. This

1714
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 2: is an era when quarterback development is more valuable than anything.

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01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 2: He'll be a top candidate for any team leaning toward

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01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 2: hiring an offensive coach. The only problem is teams are

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01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: well versed in Ben Johnson's selective approach, and the Lions

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01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 2: appear to be on the verge of another playoff run

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01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: that could limit his playoff or check at his interview availability.

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01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: Think about it, He's got designs the Lions want to

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01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 2: win a super Bowl, so I you know that that's

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01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 2: something to watch. We'll see. I know, I think he

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01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: would have had a job last last cycle in January,

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01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 2: but I think he intentionally priced himself too high, and

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01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 2: I think he was frustrated they had the Niners beat

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01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: Man when they wanted to. He's got unfinished business. You

1727
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: imagine if you're the guy that presides over an offense

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01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 2: that even gets just gets the Lions to a super Bowl,

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01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 2: forget winning it, play a team he had won a

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01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: playoff game in fifty seven years, or one playoff game

1731
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 2: in fifty seven years. All right, speaking of fifty seven,

1732
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: the fifty seven year old Dion Sanders, they said he

1733
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 2: has no plans to leave for the NFL. Okay, he

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01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 2: said he has no plans to leave for the NFL. No, No,

1735
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 2: I think he'll do it. No, I don't. I think

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01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 2: there are horses for courses, and I think Dion is

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01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: better suited to be a college guy. He's a mentor,

1738
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: he's a surro good father, he's got you know, it's

1739
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: the old saying that you know you're working with what

1740
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 2: cement when you're working with college players. NFL player, Come on,

1741
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: they're businessmen. They're growing ass men with families. Chuck Day,

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01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: the legendary elegant head coach of the Detroit Pistons who

1743
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: went back to back championships with the Bad Boys, once

1744
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 2: told me he said coaching an NBA team is a

1745
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 2: lot like managing an adult day care center. Now, he

1746
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 2: didn't say that in the pejorative. He didn't say that

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01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 2: to put anybody down. These are grown men. Your job

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01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 2: is to get you to like you and play hard

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01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 2: for him, and that's it. They know what they need

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01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 2: to do. Of course, there's coaching involved, but it's not

1751
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: the same as is in college, where you can really

1752
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,839
Speaker 2: have influence. Plus, Dion can shop for his own groceries.

1753
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 2: He can bring in the players he wants. For the

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01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: most part, he's already got a huge commit coming in

1755
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: the number two quarterback. But that might not prevent teams

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01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,759
Speaker 2: for at least trying to line up Dion for an interview. Okay,

1757
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 2: you know you can interview for a job if people

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01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 2: tell me, well, I don't know if I want that job.

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01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: It's going to be a twenty eight mile commute. But

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it. He've been offered the job yet,

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01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 2: he interviewed for the job. If you like it, you

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01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: can decide whether you want to take it. You don't

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01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: have a decision to make him. You're offered something. Now,

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01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 2: we know Dion likes money, as do most people. He

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01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: likes the spotlight. If there's the right opportunity, and Sanders's

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01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 2: son is a top five pick and he has an

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01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to coach his son, it's all theoretical. I'm telling you,

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01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen. But if it did,

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01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders would command instant credibility in the locker room.

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01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 2: And it's fair to wonder whether Scott would work as

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01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: well in the NFL's as in college. But there's no

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Speaker 2: ability to check that. There's no doubt in his ability

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01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: to lead men. He's born to do this. And I

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01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 2: don't know if Jerry Jones wants to really create a craziness,

1775
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: but I think there's no way he goes to Dallas

1776
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: because you part with Dak Prescott. It's one hundred million

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01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: dollars cap hit. Come on, man, you want to be

1778
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 2: really want to be Mickey the Dunce. Here eighty two

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01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 2: year old Jerry Jones starting over with a rebuilt. I

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01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't think so, And I don't

1781
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 2: think Schudor wants to sit behind Dak for a year.

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01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 2: So let's scratch that. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But

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01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 2: Sanders would also need to show he can hire a

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01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: solid staff. He also need a strong GM. Team building

1785
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 2: is a lot different. You know, if you don't have

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01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 2: an in supply of nil money, you got a salary

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01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 2: cap in the NFL, and it'd be a real hell

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01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 2: of a risk reward thing. But I think some teams

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01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 2: will talk to Dion. How about Aaron Glynn. You know

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01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 2: we talk a lot about Ben Johnson. He's the stud

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01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the Lions. How about the defensive coordinator.

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01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: Aaron Glynn has a great, strong reputation around the league.

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01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 2: He's been working his way up the ranks over the

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01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 2: past decade. He's certainly paid his dues. He was a

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01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 2: cornerback in the league. He had a very good fifteen

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01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 2: year NFL career. He knows what he's doing and he's

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01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 2: he's transitioned into the coaching role quite quite nicely. I

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01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 2: think the speculation is that Aaron Glyndd could get a

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Speaker 2: look with the New Orleans Saints. Remember he played his

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01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: final season there two years before they won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He worked on under Sean Payton for five years, and

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01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 2: the GM of the Saints, Mickey Loomis, are still there

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01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 2: from Aaron Glenn's playing day, so they're familiar with him.

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01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 2: And when you consider that he Aaron Glenn lost his

1805
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 2: best defensive player, his star pass rusher Aiden Hutchinson, and

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01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: the Lions still managed to shut down the Houston Texans

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01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 2: in that wild comeback. These things work well, making those

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01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 2: high speed decisions in the heat of battle and not

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01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: missing a beat. The question is, well, the Saints want

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01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 2: another Peyton disciple. They just got rid of a Payton disciple,

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01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Dennis sala But Dennis Salad should have never been heard

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01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 2: in the first damn place. So Aaron Glenn is, are

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01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: they going to be a prime candidate? He can't rule

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01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: out Zach Robinson, the Falcons offensive coordinator. He's the first

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01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 2: time play call of the season, and the numbers have

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01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 2: shown they've gotten better production on A B. John Robinson.

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01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 2: They've gotten better production on A Drake London and Kyle Pitts,

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01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 2: even though Kirk Cousins has been good at times and

1819
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: not good other times again another dude thirty eight. He's Atlanta.

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01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: He was the Raheem Morris top choice as the OC

1821
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 2: because they'd worked together the previous three years with the Rams.

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01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 2: But beyond that, also Morris k new Robinson would be

1823
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 2: a head coach in short order. I think he's going

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01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: to be. We'll see where. We'll see if he gets

1825
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 2: on this cycle. But again, he's also done a good

1826
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 2: job of developing his offensive staff. So you're going to

1827
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 2: see Zach Robinson the OC of of the Falcons get looks.

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01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: Bobby Slowa can name you here all over and over

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01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 2: and over again. He burst upon the scene in twenty

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01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 2: twenty three in Houston Houston, Texans. He's the guy who's

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01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: most notably responsible and should get credit for c J.

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01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 2: Stroud's quick development. Bobby slok is seen around the league.

1833
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 2: Is a very good play caller. He's really impressed his peers.

1834
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: He had a very impressive game plan last year in

1835
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 2: January when the playoff victory over the Cliland Browns, and

1836
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: the Texans offense hasn't exactly been, you know, exploding this season,

1837
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 2: so the hype around him is leveled off a little bit.

1838
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: But if Houston wins THEFC South and they get back

1839
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 2: in the post, He's neck gets styled up again. All right,

1840
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 2: slowed by the way. He's only thirty seven years old.

1841
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,799
Speaker 2: He's a Kyle Shanahan disciple who actually has experienced coaching

1842
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 2: defense with a Niners and seventeen. But he was promoted

1843
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 2: to the passing game coordinator in San Francisco two years

1844
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 2: ago before the texansired him. Doesn't hurt. He has has

1845
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 2: experienced on the defensive side of the ball. Liam Cohen

1846
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 2: is a name you don't here, but he's a genius

1847
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: play caller. He's done great things with Baker Mayfield when

1848
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay had their full complimentary receivers. Remember they went

1849
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 2: in and beat the Lions Week three as an eight

1850
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 2: point underdog. He's you know, he's got Baker Mayfield. Liam

1851
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 2: Cohen has got Baker Mayfield playing the best football of

1852
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 2: his career, even with all the injuries. And here's a

1853
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 2: guy who's bounced around. You know, he was in Kentucky

1854
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 2: and he was Sean mcvay's coordinator. Now first year he's

1855
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 2: been a full time play caller. I think he's impressed

1856
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Tampa Bay's offense is still even

1857
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 2: with all their injuries, fifty NFL, they're putting up twenty

1858
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 2: seven points a game. I don't know if he gets

1859
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, he's very inexperienced when it comes to interviewing

1860
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: and being out there in the circuit. So he might

1861
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 2: be a year away from a head coaching offer. But

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01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: he's on the list as well as Drew Petsig, the

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01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 2: Arizona offensive coordinator and Frank Smith, the Dolphins defensive coordinator.

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01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: And let's not forget Jesse Mentor, who is the genius

1865
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 2: behind the Michigan team last year. He's the forty one

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01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 2: years old, he's the Chargers defensive coordinator, and he's a

1867
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 2: guy who knows his way around. But back to Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: People are wanting to know it's starting to heat up

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01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 2: or already in December. I've had a gentleman on Jeff

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01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 2: Dasson many times. We've talked about Belichick in the past

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01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 2: and how Belichick has been a choice of a few

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01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: different teams and it can change. And the truth of

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01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 2: the matter is, because it has bounced a bit from

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01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 2: the various teams that are mentioned, it's time to talk

1875
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 2: to Jeff D. Austin out of Boston with ECI you'll

1876
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 2: hear the accident right away. Annoying it is out of Boston,

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01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 2: and let's find out where Belichick stands. According to Jeff

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01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 2: right now, yeah, good.

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Speaker 8: Morning and happy thanks skib and Bernie back at you.

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Speaker 2: So a quick question for you, are you hearing the well?

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01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to lead the witness

1882
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 2: and put origin about. But they keep talking about Jacksonville.

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01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 2: Is there a merit to that?

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01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 8: My take on that is, I think it's just setting

1885
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 8: the precedent on what Bill really wants. In other words,

1886
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 8: he wants full control. He wants to be able to

1887
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 8: bring the gang, doctor Josh McDaniel or Patricia his staff,

1888
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 8: and then of course he wants total control of the drafts.

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01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 8: So when I hear Jacksonville jackson, Bill sounds like they're

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01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 8: willing to offer him the keys to the car. And

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01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 8: so the other teams at least know what Bill's looking for.

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01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 8: So I think that's more media and pr everyone I

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01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 8: talk to, Thanks, but no thanks. Jack Tendill will not

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01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 8: be a destination for bo Okay, fair enough.

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01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things we do know Bill Belichick

1896
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 2: is fifteen wins away from Don Shula. He's probably only

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01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: going to hang around three more years tops, I'm guessing

1898
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 2: I don't know. That would put him at seventy six

1899
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 2: years old. And so you have kind of this. You've

1900
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 2: got to thread the needle, Jeff, And what do I

1901
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 2: mean by that? He wants to go somewhere that's not

1902
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 2: a full rebuild, but he's got to know somewhere they're

1903
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 2: going to need a coach, and he wants to win

1904
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 2: fifteen games. So process of elimination, what are we looking at?

1905
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: Can you rule out Dallas? Would you rule out the

1906
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,520
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys?

1907
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 8: I think the ego gets in the way with Bill

1908
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 8: and Jerry, I don't think. I mean that would have

1909
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 8: been the the easiest path. That would be a good defense,

1910
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 8: good offense, good structure, not a major rebuild.

1911
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 9: Do you have a.

1912
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 8: Quarterback vetan quarterback game?

1913
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 9: I would say in desperation, In other words, Plan A

1914
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 9: or Plane B didn't go well with Bernie and then

1915
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 9: this would be his flawback. I don't think this would

1916
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 9: be his number one choice.

1917
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 2: I certainly agree with that, but at some point you

1918
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 2: start to run out of teams. Listen, we'll just do

1919
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 2: this for giggles. We know the Chicago Bears are going

1920
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 2: to need a coach. Would Bill Belichick be in the

1921
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 2: mix for that?

1922
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 8: Oh, that's a great question, Bernie.

1923
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 2: What do you want to be?

1924
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 9: Everything I hear is.

1925
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 8: They're going to push all in for Ben Johnson, They're

1926
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 8: going to give them a contract and a pen. They're

1927
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 8: going to obviously try to get.

1928
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,799
Speaker 10: Them away from your Lions, and that the fact that

1929
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 10: that's the Bears guy intriguing, maybe too young of a quarterback?

1930
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 5: How does that sound?

1931
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 2: Burning? You know? I wouldn't hire Ben Johnson and from

1932
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 2: the Bears because here's why. That's an organization that needs

1933
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 2: a field general that seasoned, like a Mike Vrabel. And

1934
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 2: I don't think at this stage in the Bears history,

1935
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 2: whatever that may be, you can bring in a guy

1936
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 2: who's going to have to produce results fairly quickly while

1937
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: still learning on the job. Just my two cents, man,

1938
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 2: Just my two cents. How about the New Orleans Saints?

1939
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Could Bill Belichick? Look, I don't think they're that far

1940
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 2: away the Saints from being an actual playoff team.

1941
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 8: The Saints, what do they do with quarterback? Obviously?

1942
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 9: Do they keep carved? They got a young kid, dis

1943
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 9: Spencer Rattler that got.

1944
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 8: A few games didn't look good. That one surprised me

1945
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 8: because that one was gained in Steam a few months

1946
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 8: ago as a contender there. So I'll put that on

1947
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,799
Speaker 8: the short list of three.

1948
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:06,480
Speaker 5: How's that, Bernie.

1949
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Do I darre mention the Raiders? Bill Belichick to the Raiders.

1950
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 2: Guess who's here is a part time owner? Now Tom Brady, Wow.

1951
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 8: You know what great?

1952
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 9: Sounds good? But there's there's a gentleman and a potential

1953
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 9: first pick called Chaudor Sanders and Dion Sanders where the

1954
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 9: Raiders might be market.

1955
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that to me, that's a disaster waiting to happen

1956
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 2: if they've tried to pull some some gimmick like that.

1957
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to the New York Giants,

1958
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 2: the one team I thought, I don't know, Brian Davie's

1959
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 2: still working there, so you don't want to, you know,

1960
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 2: put a bullsy on a guy's head who's still got

1961
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 2: a job. But obviously this Giant thing is not worked out,

1962
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 2: and I think Dabeles regressed and now that Danny Dimes

1963
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 2: is gone. Thoughts on that that feels like a full

1964
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 2: rebuild though.

1965
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 8: Now, well we we talked a year ago on the

1966
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 8: Giants where it all started.

1967
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 9: That I'm going to still stick with that. Now, it's

1968
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:08,759
Speaker 9: kind of funny.

1969
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 8: I'll kind of correlate it with the Bruins and Jim Montgomery.

1970
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 8: You know, you fire a coach and he's hired immediately,

1971
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 8: like Bruce Cassidy, he wins to Stanley Cup. You fired

1972
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 8: Jim Montgomery, he hired two days later by the Saint

1973
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 8: Louis Blues.

1974
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 9: So you know, you look at this situation.

1975
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 8: If Brian Dabole is fired, he would be hired by

1976
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 8: you know, well, thirty teams would call him.

1977
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 5: Put it that way.

1978
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 8: So I think there's a situation where.

1979
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 9: He would come in. I think he'd get a lot

1980
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 9: of control.

1981
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 4: Number one, Number two.

1982
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 8: They will be drafted in a quarterback. But who's out

1983
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 8: there for a free agent? A veteran quarterback, a quick

1984
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 8: rebuilds Why you draft a quarterback.

1985
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm going to.

1986
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 8: Stick with that when Bertie is my number one thoughts.

1987
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 2: All right, So Jeff's the timeline. A year ago about now,

1988
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 2: you pretty much guaranteed that Bill Belichick would be gone.

1989
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 2: He was. We just didn't know how it was going

1990
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 2: to happen. First of the year, you said, yeah, he's

1991
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 2: going to want to be back in the mix. Didn't

1992
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,640
Speaker 2: get hired in the last cycle. Maybe he needed a

1993
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 2: year off. He sounds like he's having fun. Find the

1994
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 2: TV camera heading into this year. You're going to stick

1995
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 2: to your guns and we'll do this in January. I

1996
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 2: don't want to put words in your mouth, but it

1997
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 2: sounds like you believe Belichick would be the next coach

1998
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 2: of the New York Giants. That would be the most

1999
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 2: likely thing to happen.

2000
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 8: I'm going to stick to that one till January.

2001
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,639
Speaker 2: Bertie, all right, Jeff, appreciate you getting up early. Enjoy

2002
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 2: the rest of your weekend, man, And you've hit these

2003
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: right right along the way if you had your finger

2004
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: on the pulse of the Belichick thing, and I have

2005
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 2: no reason to dot you at this point. Jeff, enjoy

2006
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 2: your weekend, man.

2007
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 9: You kick.

2008
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 2: So that's Jeff Dawson from me CI and Boston. I've

2009
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 2: had him on about three times going back to a

2010
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: year ago. Now, remember you know, memories are short. With

2011
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 2: five six weeks to go in the season, the speculation

2012
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 2: was that Bill Belichick would be gone, but would he

2013
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 2: last the season? Did Robert Kraft really want to do that?

2014
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 2: Coming in on Schuler's record. You know, would there be

2015
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 2: an announcement with a final game, would there be a ceremony?

2016
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 2: Jeff was pretty steadfast that anyway slicing Bill Belichick will

2017
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 2: not be back with the Patriots. In twenty twenty four

2018
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 2: he nailed that. He's still pretty steadfast things gonna end

2019
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 2: up with the Giants. And again Brian Dabiles still there.

2020
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 2: I get that. So let's not write his death warrant yet.

2021
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 2: But let's say this. Okay, Belichick has history there. He

2022
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 2: was on Bill. He was on Bill Parcell's side for

2023
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 2: the only two Super Bowls that Bill Parcells won as

2024
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator in eighty seven and ninety one. Excuse me,

2025
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 2: and look, he likes living in the Northeast. The only

2026
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 2: question is, you know, he's how much of a rebuild

2027
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 2: will the Giants? Is Bill Belichick? Again, you're trying to

2028
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: thread that needle where he wants to get with a

2029
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 2: team that's close to contending. But coaches don't typically fire

2030
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 2: or teams, and typically fire coaches that are close to

2031
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 2: the teams that are close to continuing. So you've got

2032
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 2: a little bit of a conundrum there. You know, Bill,

2033
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 2: Bill Parcel has always said you are what your record

2034
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 2: says you are. Well, sometimes records are lying. And if

2035
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 2: you get through Week twelve in the NFL and you're

2036
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 2: really passed the contender pretender zone and you're approaching playoff territory,

2037
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 2: you look at a team's record and you say to yourself,

2038
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: do you trust that record? Do you see the record?

2039
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 2: But you trust that record? Got six teams I've identified.

2040
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you whether you can trust the record or not.

2041
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie fraddlew or kemedy Lyon from the Las Vegas

2042
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tarrac dot com studios. Keep it locked

2043
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 2: right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show, a

2044
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right back in the Bernie Frattle Show,

2045
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, kemedy Lye from the tarat dot com

2046
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas. Oh man, we're just fourteen

2047
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:07,639
Speaker 2: minutes away from the Dance Sensation sweep of the nation.

2048
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool you followed by what

2049
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 2: my name? You know? Bill Parcells off and said, you

2050
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 2: are what your record says you are. But sometimes you

2051
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 2: win games you're supposed to win and supposed to lose

2052
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 2: maybe and you lose games you're supposed to win. So

2053
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 2: I've taken a look at six teams here that are prominent,

2054
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 2: and you look at their record and you say, can

2055
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 2: you trust that record? So it involves reading a little

2056
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 2: tea leaves and a little you know, speculation, But for

2057
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 2: the most part, the I would say the thought process

2058
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: is sound. We start with the Eagles. The records nine

2059
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 2: to two. Can you trust that record? Yeah, I think

2060
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 2: they're stable. We just saw them blow out the Rams

2061
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: on the road thirty seven to twenty this past week,

2062
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 2: and that makes the Eagles even more trustworthy because there

2063
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 2: are a lot of people who think the Rams are

2064
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:13,560
Speaker 2: actually pretty good and will find their way into the

2065
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 2: playoffs again like they did last year on one of them.

2066
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 2: But when you travel across the country like that in

2067
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 2: a standalone game and you dominate a Rams team that

2068
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: still has enough talent to be dangerous, that makes the

2069
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 2: Eagles very trustworthy. And it's remarkable considering how weird and

2070
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 2: odd and sketchy the Eagles season started this year. The defense, though,

2071
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 2: is great, not good, it's great. The offense is good enough,

2072
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 2: and you add Saquon Barkley, who rush for fifty five

2073
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: Sunday the Eagles play complimentary football. Who's stopping them right now?

2074
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: And I absolutely believe that Saquon Barkley should be the

2075
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 2: MVP conversation because he's had a profound impact on the

2076
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 2: Eagle success in the field and in their culture. Clearly,

2077
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 2: clearly the Lions. Their actual record is eleven and one.

2078
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 2: I think you can still trust that record up to

2079
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 2: this point. Now, I would say if you can set

2080
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 2: aside the fact that they escaped against the Bears, but

2081
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 2: they've been putting fifty burgers up against teams and you

2082
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 2: know doing it. But I am slightly distracted now by

2083
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,879
Speaker 2: the amount of injuries they've had on defense. It matters,

2084
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 2: but barring any future major injury, the Lions will be

2085
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,719
Speaker 2: favored in every regular season game going forward and most

2086
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 2: likely every playoff game all the way to the Super

2087
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 2: Bowl if the football gods deemed them worthy. Just this

2088
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: last Sunday, they hammered the Colts twenty four to six,

2089
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 2: and they weren't flashy. But look, it's sometimes at the

2090
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,879
Speaker 2: end of the year, when it comes to winning games,

2091
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,719
Speaker 2: you don't ask Kyle, you just ask how many. Such

2092
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 2: is the case with the Bears. They almost blew a

2093
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 2: sixteen point lead. But at the end of the day,

2094
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: they won the game. They did what they needed to do.

2095
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 2: They don't draw pictures in the scorecard. You can trust

2096
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 2: the alliance. Thursday night, though, there's gonna be a test.

2097
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 2: Green Bay's for real Lions are a five point favorite.

2098
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: Green Bay's built their matchup is built to go in

2099
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 2: and recavoc in Detroit. This will be a primer. If

2100
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 2: for some reason green Bay prevails on the road and

2101
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 2: beats the Lions, that's gonna have inserted out. I don't

2102
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 2: care what anybody says. That doesn't mean the Lions still

2103
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 2: can't go to the super Bowl, but it will insert

2104
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 2: it out. Maybe it's slight out, but it will insert

2105
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 2: out because the truth of the matter is, I like

2106
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 2: the way the Eagles are trending right now, and it

2107
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 2: could be problematic, but let's not create problems that don't

2108
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 2: exist yet and try to solve them. The Chiefs their

2109
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 2: actual record eleven and one, Well, the truth of the

2110
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 2: matter is they're really more like an eight and four team.

2111
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 2: If you look at the Pythagoream theorem, which has to

2112
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 2: do with points scored, points, a lowed margin of victory,

2113
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 2: yards per play. All those things you can. Actually, I

2114
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 2: think it's a little silly because the Chiefs are back

2115
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 2: to back defending champions and they may have a little

2116
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: fatigue and they play with their food a little bit,

2117
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 2: just like they did last year. They were actually lost

2118
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 2: to the Raiders last year on Christmas Day, but they

2119
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 2: righted the ship and you saw what they did, and

2120
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: they didn't have home field advantage during the playoffs. They

2121
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 2: went into Baltimore and yes, the better team won. Back

2122
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 2: to the old can you be great when the situation

2123
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 2: demands greatness? Who do you trust more? Andy Reid or

2124
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni? Who do you trust more? Patrick Mahomes or

2125
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. You get the picture, But you can throw

2126
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 2: some shade if you must. First, the Chiefs were frankly

2127
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 2: somewhat lucky to beat the Panther Sunday. They emerged victorious

2128
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 2: on a game winning field will as time expired, and

2129
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 2: we now know that since they beat the Raiders. The

2130
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 2: chief beat the Raiders Black Friday. Nine of the chiefs

2131
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 2: eleven wins have come by a single score. If this

2132
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 2: wasn't Patrick Mahomes, you know damn well, people would be

2133
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 2: calling them frauds. That's what people like to do. Some

2134
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 2: people still are. I'm not doing that, man. This dude

2135
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 2: has made too many plays in the heat of battle,

2136
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 2: when the heat gets hot and it's hard to breathe,

2137
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 2: and he keeps his composure. It's unreal what we're seeing here,

2138
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 2: and it's very well deserved. But there are whispers. There

2139
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 2: are whispers. I fifts and butts were candy and nuts.

2140
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 2: You don't have a merry Christmas. But if some of

2141
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 2: those ifs and butts, you know, the coin flip didn't

2142
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: fall the Chief's way, they'd be an eight and fourteen.

2143
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 2: But that didn't happen. There are personal feelings and they

2144
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 2: are objective truths. The Chiefs have eleven wins. Can you

2145
01:54:56,080 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 2: trust the record, that's up to you. The Niners they're

2146
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 2: five and six. Trusted their preseason NFC favorites are just

2147
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 2: not that good right now. Losing thirty eight to ten

2148
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 2: to Green Bay last week. That cements the reality. Even

2149
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey can't make up for all their flaws. There's

2150
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 2: a very good chance the Niners don't even make the

2151
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: playoffs now. The Texans they're seven and five. I don't know, though, man,

2152
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't think you could trust that record. In an

2153
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 2: alternative universe, they'd be five and seven. If they played

2154
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: the decent division, they wouldn't be seven and five, right.

2155
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 2: They'd lose thirty two to twenty seven to the low

2156
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 2: League Titans last week, a bad loss. I watched that

2157
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 2: game in my goodness, Well, Houston looked more abund and

2158
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 2: that's unusual for them in the Demico Ryan's coach team. Yes,

2159
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 2: the Texans are going to win the AFC South and

2160
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, but unless something changes. Remember they were

2161
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 2: celebrating in the streets last year because they beat Cleveland

2162
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 2: with rookie C. J. Stroud. I don't know they could

2163
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 2: be one and done in the playoffs. The Commandos, the Commanders,

2164
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't trust them at all. Their actual record is

2165
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 2: seven and five. It's six and six at best. It's

2166
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 2: a sizzling start. It's a sizzling fizzling finished recently for

2167
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn, King, Cliff Kingsbury and Jade and Daniels. Washington's

2168
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 2: collapse must be emphasized. Daniels has regressed, the offense is

2169
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 2: gone stale. The Commanders shouldn't have been close to winning

2170
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 2: some of those games. The Cooper Rush led Cowboys. Somehow

2171
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 2: they upset them, and then the following things happen. Three

2172
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 2: minutes left, Cavanti Terpin Muff's a kickoff return. All of

2173
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 2: a sudden he gets in ninety nine yards for a

2174
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 2: tv TD. Austin Sebert makes a fifty one yard field goal.

2175
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels, it's Terry McLaurin for an accredible eighty six

2176
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:42,839
Speaker 2: yard touchdown. Juwan Thomasin returns an onside kick. Nothing but chaos.

2177
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Speaker 2: I don't trust the commanders. I do not trust the commanders.

2178
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 2: And as I said, people think on nuts. I think

2179
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 2: bow Knicks deserves the Rookie of the Year. Coming up? What

2180
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool you? And what my name?

2181
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 2: Keep it locked? Bernie fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Well

2182
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Speaker 2: that's right, you heard the man. Bernie Frawter Show keeps

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Speaker 2: com the way tire buying should be well we've come

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Speaker 2: to that time of the week. Yep, you know you

2190
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 2: love it. You can't live without it, and uh, well,

2191
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, let's put it this way. We observe a

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01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 2: lot on the show. As Yogi Berrier once said, you

2193
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 2: can observe a lot by watching, and we do that. See,

2194
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 2: because around the world, around this great country of ours,

2195
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: from seed to oily seed, and certainly even around the planet,

2196
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 2: people daily engage in activities. Sometimes those activities are very

2197
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 2: very questionable odd behavior. Sometimes it's just anocuous, stupid, silly

2198
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 2: other times far more serious, you run foul the law.

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Speaker 2: And other times additionally, they may even land you in jail.

2200
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 2: But any way you slice it, anyway, you describe it,

2201
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 2: anyway you characterize that, these behaviors always leave us scratching

2202
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 2: our heads and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new

2203
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 2: fool are you? Well, I do believe this is a first,

2204
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 2: and it's a little short but sweet goofy one. It's

2205
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 2: a first in the sense that we take you to

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01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 2: Central Israel. I do not believe we've ever had a

2207
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 2: brand new fool story that comes to us from Central Israel.

2208
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 2: But you know what, when you record yourself doing stupid stuff,

2209
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 2: and post it on the internet. A lot of times

2210
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 2: that doesn't end up well. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

2211
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 2: Where am I going with this? We've all allowed a

2212
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 2: buddy to drive our car, borrow our car, maybe your

2213
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 2: best friend, maybe man's best friend. Who knows. But a

2214
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 2: thirty five year old man from a village in central

2215
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 2: Israel was arrested this past week. And here's what he did. Well,

2216
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 2: they let one of his buddies driver's car. But he

2217
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 2: was really kind kind of jiggy about how funny and

2218
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 2: cool this was. So what he did was he videoed

2219
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 2: his best buddy drive in his car. And you can

2220
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 2: see a vehicle moving down the streets of Israel with

2221
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 2: an unusual looking individual driving the car, and it looks

2222
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 2: so unusual to police. They happened to notice it on

2223
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 2: video in the internet, and so the Jerusalem District Police

2224
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 2: took to the streets searched for the car, and they

2225
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:43,400
Speaker 2: finally found the car and identified the driver. And what's

2226
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 2: interesting is the driver was a dog. Yes, this thirty

2227
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 2: five year old man from a village in central Israel

2228
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 2: was arrested for letting his dog drive the car. And

2229
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 2: what's interesting is on the video you can observe it,

2230
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 2: and frankly, he's got the dog on his lap, but

2231
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 2: the dog's got the paws on the steering wheel. At

2232
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 2: ten o'clock and two o'clock. The cops didn't think that

2233
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 2: was so funny, so they identify him, they arrest him,

2234
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 2: and they hit him for a fine for driving a

2235
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Speaker 2: car and endangering other drivers. I don't know. It's some

2236
02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 2: sort of a you know law there in Israel. But

2237
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Speaker 2: upon inspection, the car did not pass the required road test,

2238
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 2: so he's facing charges for that at all. The good

2239
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,320
Speaker 2: news is no word on whether or not the dog

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Speaker 2: will face any charges, No word if the dog will

2241
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 2: be in trouble for driving without a license. But man

2242
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 2: from Central Israel, I believe his name was David, I

2243
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:51,120
Speaker 2: don't know, allows his dog drive his car, gets hit

2244
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 2: with a couple of charges, posts it on the internet

2245
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 2: to brag, ends up looking stupid and well you can

2246
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:58,400
Speaker 2: see where that goes from there. It doesn't end up

2247
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: well for him, David for Central Israel? What can of

2248
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 2: brand new food? Are you all right? Mister? Sha shay

2249
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 2: club sha shaye? What have we got, Bernie?

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Speaker 11: We don't have rules here, so I'm just gonna tell

2251
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 11: you a quick story before I go into my what

2252
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:15,880
Speaker 11: kind of fool? So I saw this story and I

2253
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 11: was like, I have to bring this on the air

2254
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 11: because this is one of the.

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Speaker 7: Most absurd things I've ever heard.

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Speaker 11: So there's a shopping center in Canada, in Montreal, Canada

2257
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,880
Speaker 11: right now that it has a homeless problem, and it's stairwells.

2258
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 11: A lot of homeless people are sheltering. It's cold in Canada.

2259
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 11: It makes sense obviously the owners of this place weren't

2260
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 11: a big fan of it. You can say it's humane,

2261
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 11: you can say it's not humane. But a way they're

2262
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 11: getting rid of this homeless problem is by constantly playing

2263
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 11: the song baby Shark.

2264
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 2: Remember that back in twenty nine Gears Yep.

2265
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Speaker 11: And it's still been an issue right now and it's

2266
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:51,760
Speaker 11: still happening, and right now there's a lot of people

2267
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 11: that are saying, is it a human right?

2268
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 7: Is it blah blah blah.

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Speaker 11: But I guess the worst thing about this is they

2270
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 11: don't just play baby Shark. They'll speed it up, they'll

2271
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 11: slow it down, they'll change like the way they do it.

2272
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 11: And I just thought this was like the most absurd

2273
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 11: thing I've ever heard and I was already annoyed by

2274
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 11: it by just listening to it once with my baby

2275
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 11: cousins over Thanksgiving and just reading this, I was like, Wow,

2276
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:15,560
Speaker 11: that's this is absurd. I needed to bring this up

2277
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 11: on the air.

2278
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 2: But all good.

2279
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 11: That does bring me to my what kind of fool

2280
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:24,919
Speaker 11: we're getting taken to Magnolia, Texas? Not quite Israel, but Magnolia, Texas,

2281
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 11: where a man was arrested on Thanksgiving night for an

2282
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 11: unauthorized use of a customer's car.

2283
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 7: I'll let you know what that is later on in

2284
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 7: the story.

2285
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 11: So basically, a man was arrested after speeding and taking

2286
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 11: basically a joy Rad Thanksgiving night. He was driving a

2287
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 11: pretty nice Camaro Stripe down the line all read so.

2288
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 7: It was a pretty flashy car.

2289
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 11: Police stopped the striking red sports car on South Magnolia Street.

2290
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 11: After questioning the driver, learned the vehicle was not his,

2291
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 11: but belonged to a customer from his place of employment.

2292
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 11: According to Magnolia Police Department's Facebook post, the mechanic did

2293
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 11: not have permission to take the car, which was confirmed

2294
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 11: when officers reached out to the registered owner, prompting his

2295
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 11: arrest for unauthorized use of the vehicle. Making contact with

2296
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 11: the registered owner revealed no surprise to the driver, definitely

2297
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 11: didn't have permission for the Thanksgiving night joy ride and

2298
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 11: the event ultimately culmitting in his arrest. And he's still

2299
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 11: arrested right now and waiting on bail. This just leads

2300
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:30,440
Speaker 11: to me to say, mechanic from Magnolia Texas, what kind

2301
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 11: of brand new fool are you?

2302
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 2: So? I guess for Magnolia Texas to central lose Jerusalem, Israel.

2303
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 2: We've got guys having issues with driving cars this week.

2304
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Speaker 11: Seriously, man, it's hey, yeah, that's something about Turkey and

2305
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 11: wanting to go fast.

2306
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe too much trip to fan Hell, what do

2307
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 2: I know, but I'll say that, I mean, yeah, Unfortunately,

2308
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, this is not one of them. These are

2309
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 2: not more of the more serious allegations that a lot

2310
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 2: of times these brand new food stories have. And so

2311
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:05,560
Speaker 2: you know, no one lost an eye. Well that's the idea.

2312
02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 7: Keep it light.

2313
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 11: It was Thanksgiving holiday, there you go, let's keep it light.

2314
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:12,879
Speaker 11: There was enough fighting today in the NCAA games and football.

2315
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,440
Speaker 7: So this is this.

2316
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 2: Is something man, I'm telling you the matter of time,

2317
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 2: there's another mouse at the pedals. I'm telling you all right. Uh.

2318
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 2: That concludes another rousing edition of what kind of brand

2319
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 2: new fool You, which now opens the door and paves

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Speaker 2: the way for our second favorite favorite bit that we

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Speaker 2: lovingly refer to as what My Name? And here we go,

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02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 2: Jim Lang, all right, so this past Sunday, Uh, let

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02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 2: me you find my notes here ever so quickly if

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Speaker 2: I could.

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Speaker 7: It's a laid back kind of day, Brandie.

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02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 2: It's been a long with maybe I've had too much tripture.

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02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to start. I wanted to start out with

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02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 2: a with a with a real easy one. So I'll

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02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 2: tell you, let's do this. I think this is an

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02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:15,440
Speaker 2: easy one. So last Sunday, Sekuon Barkley had three hundred

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02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:21,280
Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage last Sunday night in the game Philadelphia

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02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 2: against the Rams. But he's only the second player to

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02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 2: ever do that on a primetime game. I'm the last

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02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 2: NFL player to have three hundred yards from scrimmage in

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02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 2: a primetime game. I did it back in nineteen ninety nine.

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02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, What my name? He's got a very distinctive

2337
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 2: first name named after an old TV show from the sixties,

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02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 2: A TV shot a fish.

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02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 7: I was only thinking Eric Dickerson said, I'm doing that's star, right.

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Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson. Actually, well, I mentioned him earlier in the show.

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02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Not Eric Dickerson. Sequon Barkley had three hundred yards from

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02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 2: scrimmage last Sunday night. I'm the last NFL player to

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02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 2: to you know, accumulate three hundred yards from scrimmage in

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02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 2: a primetime game. To the back of nineteen ninety nine.

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02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 2: Former UCLA wide receiver played for the Rams. Shay, what

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02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 2: my name?

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02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 7: Quick?

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02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 11: Shout out to Kevin Wired if you're listening, this is

2349
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 11: your boy, Flipper Anderson.

2350
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 2: It is, in fact Flipper Anderson. Nicely done. He had

2351
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 2: a chef. Chef liked him. The chef very much liked him. Yes,

2352
02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 2: all right, I actually lead the NFL in rushing this season.

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02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:41,160
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, What my name? Here's a clue. He's got

2354
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 2: the same name of a famous basketball player, retired NBA

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02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 2: shaved head, loudmouth.

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Speaker 7: No, I say that in a good way, Uh Charles somebody?

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02:06:54,120 --> 02:07:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh darn sorry. I lead the NFL interruption this season,

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02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,800
Speaker 2: Mark or Shaane Mogangar, what my name this season?

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02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:05,160
Speaker 7: Correct?

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02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:05,920
Speaker 2: This season?

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02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 7: It's Sakwon Barkley, right.

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Speaker 2: Barkley, Yes, yes, yes, all right, Well the baseball Winter

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02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 2: Meetings starting next week. How about a baseball question? This

2364
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:21,959
Speaker 2: is a damn good one. Uh. You know, Willie Mays

2365
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 2: is only one of two Major League Baseball players to

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02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:27,920
Speaker 2: actually hit a home run and steal a base in

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02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 2: the same Major League Baseball All Star Game. I'm the

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02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,280
Speaker 2: other one. What my name? Here's a clue? Mark. He

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02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 2: also played in the NFL, had a short stint with

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02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:39,879
Speaker 2: the Raiders.

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02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 1: Oh is that, Derek.

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02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give it to you.

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02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 2: I know you met bo Jackson. I know you met

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02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 2: bo Jackson.

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02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:51,919
Speaker 7: Here's thinking Derrick Henry bo Jackson.

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02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 11: Two big hitters. I get it, big dudes running.

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02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 2: Backs for all I know. Hell, he might be right,

2378
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 2: all right? Patrick Mahomes just became the all time leader

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02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 2: in touchdown passes for the Kansas City Chiefs franchise. But

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02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 2: he broke my record, shave Ogger What my name? The

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02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 2: legend at Purdue and was the starting quarterback in Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl four and upset the heavily favored Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 7: Ah was that?

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02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 2: Wait? What give you a clue? Mark? He's got the

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02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:36,920
Speaker 2: same last name as the guy we did in our

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02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 2: one thirty interview. Patrick Mahomes just broughtn Dawson nicely done.

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02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 2: There you go, Lendy Dawson. People don't people. He's got

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Speaker 2: that famous picture sitting on the sideline smoking a cigarette

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02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 2: or not, on the silence in halftime, smoking a cigarette,

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02:08:51,560 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 2: drinking a Fresco. And he was a good commentator for

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02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 2: HBO two. Just a legend, legend. He was all right

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02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 2: during this college football season. Believe it or not. I'm

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02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:05,400
Speaker 2: the leading passer in the entire n c A A

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02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:09,280
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey what my name, here's a klue. He transferred

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Speaker 2: from Ohio.

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Speaker 7: State all conferences correct, any conference?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole nation leads the nation in passing. Mark

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02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 2: al McCord, I'm gonna give it to you. You got

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02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:33,919
Speaker 2: the right and a nice win for them today against Miami.

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02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:41,560
Speaker 2: All right. As a current head coach in college football,

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02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:46,280
Speaker 2: I have the distinction of having lost more games outright

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02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 2: as a double digit favorite in the last five years

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02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:54,360
Speaker 2: than any other school. Shaye Mogngar, what my name?

2404
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 11: So they've lost more games as a double digit favorite.

2405
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 2: I'll he lost the game outright, not only didn't cover

2406
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 2: the spread, lost more as a doublegit And this is

2407
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 2: all time, No, just the last four years, five years,

2408
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:09,800
Speaker 2: five lost more than any other school last five years.

2409
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 2: Give you a clue. Just a few hours ago on Saturday,

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02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 2: he lost the game as a double digit favorite.

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02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 7: Oh oh, oh, Miami, you got it.

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02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 2: Who's the coach?

2413
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 7: Oh it was the coach. Oh, who's their coach this year?

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02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? There was a cartoon super.

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02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,080
Speaker 7: Dude. What's that? Oh my god, I'm blinking.

2416
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 2: My big mustache is super.

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02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 7: What is his name?

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02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:41,240
Speaker 2: Uh So, here's a here's a crazy clue. If you

2419
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 2: try to read the future, you look into.

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02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 7: A crystal ball.

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02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:49,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we're making progress.

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02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 7: Super Oh my god, why is this guy not coming

2423
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:54,160
Speaker 7: to my head?

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02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:54,320
Speaker 5: Right?

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02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 2: He wanted to take a stab Mario crystal ball?

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02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,600
Speaker 7: Crystal ball? Okay, yeah, no, I definitely would have not.

2427
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 7: I don't think I need to.

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02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 2: Use all right. I'm the first NBA player in history

2429
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 2: to achieve two hundred triple doubles in my career, Mark Ramsey,

2430
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:12,120
Speaker 2: what my name.

2431
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:14,520
Speaker 7: Is it? Lebron?

2432
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 2: Not Lebron? The first player in NBA history to achieve

2433
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 2: two hundred triple doubles in my career. I'll give you

2434
02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 2: a clue. He just got a fine for ancen gesture.

2435
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 2: The other day. Who is it?

2436
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:28,120
Speaker 11: This is like the triple double god. Basically it's Russell.

2437
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 11: I mean, it's the demand. I remember watching that game

2438
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:31,240
Speaker 11: when he was on.

2439
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 7: Russell Westbrook you got it.

2440
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I remember watching his game when he got the

2441
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 11: record like for the most triple doubles in.

2442
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:41,360
Speaker 7: A year, and that was a crazy game. That was insane.

2443
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 7: I remember.

2444
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:43,000
Speaker 11: I think that was like three years ago, right, four

2445
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:45,760
Speaker 11: years ago maybe yeah, maybe more than that actually five

2446
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,200
Speaker 11: six years ago, and that was an insane game. I

2447
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:50,680
Speaker 11: remember that was like the last year or too. Russell

2448
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 11: Westbrook was Russell Westbrook, I feel like, and after that,

2449
02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:56,320
Speaker 11: it just kind of I don't know what's going on.

2450
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 7: Man, It's an upsetting career for him.

2451
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 2: He's put up wonderful numbers. He's a world class athlete.

2452
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:07,160
Speaker 2: But something's missing there. Man. A couple of sandwich is

2453
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:09,600
Speaker 2: sort of a picnic. I never never really won.

2454
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 7: You said it best.

2455
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:13,360
Speaker 11: Something is missing there and like no one can really

2456
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 11: put their finger on it. Yeah, it's true, it's that something.

2457
02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:18,640
Speaker 11: And I hope he gets one with Denver. We'll see

2458
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:19,600
Speaker 11: what happens.

2459
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 2: He almost said a bad word. He's like he's like a.

2460
02:12:23,400 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 7: Jinx man, seriously, and like you put it, there's.

2461
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:28,480
Speaker 2: Something about the dude. It's just bad juju.

2462
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:29,960
Speaker 11: When he was on the I'm a Laker fan, so

2463
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 11: when he was on the Lakers, it was just such

2464
02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 11: an upsetting thing. And I was like, oh, like we

2465
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,000
Speaker 11: got Russell Westbrook, like this is gonna be a great

2466
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 11: complimentary to.

2467
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 7: A d like blah blah blah blah blah. But literally two.

2468
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:40,960
Speaker 11: Games then I'm like, why was I lying to myself?

2469
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,560
Speaker 11: Like I knew what was gonna happen. It's just you're

2470
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:45,760
Speaker 11: really right about that, Bernie.

2471
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. It's pick your poison. You just don't

2472
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 2: know what it is, but it's it's it's Rosanna, Rosanna.

2473
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 2: Dana would say, it's always something, all right, last one? So, Eli,

2474
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:03,200
Speaker 2: he has won two Super Bowls. I absolutely think he's

2475
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 2: part of the semi finalist for the NFL Hall of

2476
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 2: Fame Colacs twenty twenty five. I believe he deserves it.

2477
02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:13,520
Speaker 2: But Eli Manning is not the only quarterback in the

2478
02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 2: history of the National Football League to have two Super

2479
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 2: Bowls and not be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

2480
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm the other one. Mark Ramsey, what in my name?

2481
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 2: Give you a clue? He did it with the Raiders,

2482
02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:32,440
Speaker 2: Daryl Plunkett. Kick you good enough for me, Jim Plunkett.

2483
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:37,240
Speaker 2: Jim Plunkett, I know that's what you meant, Jim Plunkett.

2484
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 2: What the hell should we do? One more?

2485
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:42,640
Speaker 7: I think we should Burnie one more?

2486
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:46,120
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, one more for posterity. All right,

2487
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:48,760
Speaker 2: let's talk about the Baseball Hall of Fame. To this day,

2488
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm still the only player in Major League Baseball history

2489
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:58,000
Speaker 2: to be voted in unanimously. Sha mogngar, what my.

2490
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:01,400
Speaker 7: Name to be voted in? He's only one player has been.

2491
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:03,760
Speaker 2: Voted in to be voted unanimously.

2492
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:06,920
Speaker 11: This is annoying me because I'm so good at baseball

2493
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:08,240
Speaker 11: trivia and I don't know this one.

2494
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:11,720
Speaker 2: He shares the same last name with a guy named Haraldo.

2495
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:19,640
Speaker 11: Rivera first name Mariano. Right, oh my god, he got

2496
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:22,040
Speaker 11: it five.

2497
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah he was unanimous. Wow. Now I don't know. I

2498
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:28,360
Speaker 2: don't know who the knucklehead who didn't vote for Derek

2499
02:14:28,440 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 2: Jeter because it's first ballot, right?

2500
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:32,480
Speaker 7: Yeah? Wait, come on, man, that's what I was.

2501
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:32,720
Speaker 4: I was.

2502
02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:34,800
Speaker 2: I think the guy's name was Mickey the Dunce. I

2503
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 2: don't think he's ever come forward. Maybe he has and

2504
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:38,240
Speaker 2: maybe I didn't notice it, but.

2505
02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 7: My god, Mariano Rivera was great.

2506
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:45,400
Speaker 2: Oh he was forgetting. He was unhittable.

2507
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:45,920
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

2508
02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:48,720
Speaker 2: He you know, a cutter is half a slider. He

2509
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:51,480
Speaker 2: can start the cutter in the middle of the plate

2510
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:53,960
Speaker 2: on a left hander and running inside and still be

2511
02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:55,760
Speaker 2: in the strike zone. Unhittable he was.

2512
02:14:56,360 --> 02:15:00,480
Speaker 11: He was throwing straight heat too, would test the oh everything.

2513
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:03,880
Speaker 2: And the thing is the media loved them and that

2514
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:06,560
Speaker 2: that helped a lot. That helped a lot. So all right,

2515
02:15:06,640 --> 02:15:09,680
Speaker 2: that guys, great job. I'll standing give yourself a round

2516
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:13,600
Speaker 2: of repause. There, Mark Hewittt little work there you go

2517
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 2: that you guys deserve that. See another rousing addition of

2518
02:15:18,360 --> 02:15:21,920
Speaker 2: a brand new fool and what my name? Well, they're

2519
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:23,360
Speaker 2: in the books. And in case you missed it, by

2520
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 2: the way, shortly after the show, the podcast will be

2521
02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:28,600
Speaker 2: going up. If you missed any of tonight's show, be

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Speaker 2: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. Coming up, I told you I have some

2528
02:15:49,760 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 2: concern about the Lions. How can the Packers catch the Lions?

2529
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:58,920
Speaker 2: Pray tell in the NFC North Race. I'll tell you

2530
02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 2: how they can do it, because they could happened and

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Speaker 2: it starts Thursday night. I'm Bernie Fraddle. Where come to

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Speaker 2: your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarrack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Keep it locked you listen to the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back

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Speaker 2: at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come to

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Speaker 2: the line from the Tarract dot Com studios here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Could it be possible the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 2: could actually catch the Detroit Lions and the NFC North Race.

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Speaker 2: It's ironic because I told you that earlier in the show.

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Speaker 2: I think Philadelphia presents the biggest challenge to the Lions.

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02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:33,160
Speaker 2: And why is that ironic? Because they started out last

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Speaker 2: year at the house and fire, remember collapse late made

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Speaker 2: it to the playoffs, but they were they had their

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Speaker 2: come up. But now I'm not predicting that for the Lions. However,

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02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 2: these injuries are stacking up and the reason the Bears

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02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:50,280
Speaker 2: moved the ball so well on the second half Thursday,

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Speaker 2: the pass rush wasn't getting home. So are the Lions

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Speaker 2: vulnerable against the top flight teams when they get on

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Speaker 2: the field with the Vikings and the Packers and the

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02:16:59,360 --> 02:17:01,400
Speaker 2: Buffalo bit the Niners, which are going to be the

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Speaker 2: next few weeks starting Thursday night. Green Bay is a

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Speaker 2: team I got my eye on now. They're two full

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02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:08,039
Speaker 2: games behind the Lions or nine to three. The Lions

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02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:11,320
Speaker 2: are eleven to one, and green Bay lost their first

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Speaker 2: meetings with both the Lines and the Vikings. But Maglafleur's

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02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:16,920
Speaker 2: team's gonna have a chance to avenge both of those

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02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:19,480
Speaker 2: losses in coming weeks. They start Thursday night in Detroit.

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02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:22,840
Speaker 2: From there, the pack travel to Seattle. Got a home

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Speaker 2: date with New Orleans, another trip to Minnesota, and a

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02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:28,119
Speaker 2: home date with the Bear cycles out the regular season. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't think New Orleans or Chicago is going to

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Speaker 2: threaten green Bay. That means, even if green Bay loses

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02:17:34,280 --> 02:17:36,840
Speaker 2: in Seattle, the NFC North Race could likely come down

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Speaker 2: to green Bay winning their two remaining games. Remember the

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02:17:40,720 --> 02:17:44,200
Speaker 2: Lions finish up against Minnesota. They started got Buffalo, they

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02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:46,400
Speaker 2: got the forty nine Ers, they got the Bears, again

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Speaker 2: in Chicago. So it's hard to imagine a path to

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Speaker 2: the crown if the Packers even lose one of those games,

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Speaker 2: given the fact the team has, they have ground to

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Speaker 2: make up, and they have tiebreaker implications that are involved.

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Speaker 2: But the lines are wobbly right now. The injuries have

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Speaker 2: decimated their defense, The Vikings can't get out of third

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02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:09,160
Speaker 2: year on offense, Sam Donold's regressed a lot, and if

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02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:12,879
Speaker 2: the Packers finished four and one down the stretch, while

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02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:15,880
Speaker 2: they'd be thirteen and four, they could very well be

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02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:17,760
Speaker 2: good enough to get the job done. Detroit would have

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02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:21,160
Speaker 2: to just lose one more game. With the Buffalo Bills,

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02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:24,000
Speaker 2: the Niners and the Vikings on tap, and the Vikings

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02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:27,440
Speaker 2: have the Cardinals, Falcons, Seahawks and Lions tricky schedules, it's

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Speaker 2: not hard to imagine Detroit losing to Buffalo, Minnesota and

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Speaker 2: green Bay. Am I predicting it, no, but you saw

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02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 2: it happened to Philadelphia last year. If that were to happen,

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02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 2: that opens the door for green Bay to be thirteen

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02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:44,400
Speaker 2: and four and smag the division and the divisional record

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02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:47,280
Speaker 2: would be used as a second tiebreaker, and green Bay

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02:18:47,320 --> 02:18:49,279
Speaker 2: has some ground to make up. But if the Packers

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Speaker 2: went on Thursday and get some help from the Vikings,

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02:18:52,520 --> 02:18:58,480
Speaker 2: it could happen. It's one of those cases where I

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Speaker 2: I hope I just didn't put that out of the universe.

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Speaker 2: You know my love for Detroit the years I cover

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Speaker 2: the team, but just saying, all right, we don't just

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Speaker 2: cover football American football. We cover fut b L also

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Speaker 2: known as soccer on the world stage. Yep, it's time

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Speaker 2: for Chris Burfett's World of Soccer.

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02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:29,880
Speaker 12: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum, I

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Speaker 12: give it. It's all here in this report from the

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Speaker 12: World of Soccer.

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Speaker 6: Interesting stuff around the world of soccer, Bern We have

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Speaker 6: some surprising MLS Cup semi finals here no laf scene

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Speaker 6: getting knocked out in an earlier round, setting up for

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Speaker 6: some quite a few interesting storylines as the as it goes,

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Speaker 6: we'll talk about the finals that will be upcoming on

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02:19:56,959 --> 02:19:59,000
Speaker 6: the next one, because lord knows, there's a lot of

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02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:01,640
Speaker 6: time between each round of the MLS Cup. They really

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Speaker 6: have to wean this out. However, one thing that struck

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02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:08,119
Speaker 6: me and I was thinking about this as we were

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Speaker 6: sitting after one of our last World of Soccers is

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Speaker 6: I mentioned a new Champions League format, and it struck me.

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Speaker 6: We had never really talked about the new Champions League format,

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Speaker 6: and it gives me a chance to talk about that

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Speaker 6: and what's been going on in the Champions League, the

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02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:27,039
Speaker 6: greatest league in the world, where we literally take the

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Speaker 6: best of every league across Europe and bring them in

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02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:35,720
Speaker 6: to crown one of them to be the Champions of Europe,

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02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:40,080
Speaker 6: the Kings of Europe. And it's been a fairly interesting

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02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 6: run across the board the last years of Champions League,

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02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:47,440
Speaker 6: but they have been looking to expand indeed they have so.

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02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:50,880
Speaker 6: Once we used to have thirty two teams a divide

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02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:54,240
Speaker 6: into eight groups of four, but no longer. This year

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02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:57,640
Speaker 6: it is thirty six clubs and we have eight match

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02:20:57,720 --> 02:21:01,000
Speaker 6: days of peace there and rather than having a bunch

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02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:03,960
Speaker 6: of groups out there, we now have just basically a

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02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:08,120
Speaker 6: cut line. So basically your Champions League standings now look

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02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:11,920
Speaker 6: look a lot closer to standings like say the NBA

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02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:15,360
Speaker 6: or Major League Baseball, although no divisions, all in one

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02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:18,720
Speaker 6: big pool ranked one through thirty six depending on their

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Speaker 6: wins and losses, and a lot less like say the

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Speaker 6: World Cup, where you have the zippy quick group stage

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Speaker 6: where everyone plays each other and then we get the

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Speaker 6: knockout rounds. After that, what happens instead is the top

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02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:37,280
Speaker 6: eight get a automatic qualification to the knockout round. Wow,

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Speaker 6: there is a quick playoffs that happen between nine through

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Speaker 6: twenty four. So we suddenly have knockout rounds and playoff

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02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:52,480
Speaker 6: rounds involving all but the bottom third of the Champions League.

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Speaker 6: It is suddenly a lot more interesting, a lot more

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02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:59,720
Speaker 6: teams involved, and a lot interesting chants where teams that

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02:21:59,720 --> 02:22:02,720
Speaker 6: have just taken a few blows in Champions League to

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Speaker 6: get back into it. For instance, we've been talking about

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02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 6: Real Madrid having a pretty terrible season so far by

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Speaker 6: their standards. Real Madrid only has six points and since

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Speaker 6: twenty fourth after this week of Champions League play, but

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Speaker 6: they would be the last club into the playoff stage.

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Speaker 6: That can be either good or bad. Really, it's fascinating

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Speaker 6: because it maybe opens up the chance for more upsets

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Speaker 6: to happen with smaller clubs like say Celtic or fay

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02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:32,760
Speaker 6: and Ord who have kicked around a lot, but usually

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Speaker 6: just because the math of some of the clubs that

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02:22:34,959 --> 02:22:37,720
Speaker 6: they usually get paired into that they just you know,

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02:22:37,879 --> 02:22:40,120
Speaker 6: are usually shut out. It also means kind of the

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02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:43,600
Speaker 6: end to this idea of a group of death that

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02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:45,800
Speaker 6: we kind of see in the World Cup and previous

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02:22:45,920 --> 02:22:49,320
Speaker 6: editions of the Champions League. Because you're playing more opponents

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02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:53,560
Speaker 6: in a wider format. It definitely does not mean that

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02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:56,199
Speaker 6: you are a small club suddenly stuck in there having

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02:22:56,200 --> 02:23:00,560
Speaker 6: to play Milan and say Arsenal together and being like,

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02:23:00,600 --> 02:23:01,720
Speaker 6: oh God, how do we get.

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02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:02,000
Speaker 2: Out of this?

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Speaker 6: And while we were leading up to Thanksgiving, it was

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02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 6: match day five of eight for the Champions League with

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02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:11,920
Speaker 6: some interesting results. As I mentioned, Real Madrid way down

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02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:15,440
Speaker 6: at the bottom as their season, their disappointing season continues,

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02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:20,040
Speaker 6: especially in Europe with Liverpool, which we've talked about a lot.

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Speaker 6: That is your Premier League leading Liverpool, who have a

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Speaker 6: chance to play Manchester City, who comes into the weekend

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02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 6: tied for third in the Premier League, not second, third

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Speaker 6: now kind of a moderate third, distant back behind Liverpool

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Speaker 6: who has still only suffered a single loss heading into

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Speaker 6: this weekend's matchup against the men from Manchester. That same

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02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:46,560
Speaker 6: man City had a hillacious draw three to three against

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Speaker 6: Feyanord that has once again kind of put them in

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02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:52,360
Speaker 6: no man's land in the new format they now sit.

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Speaker 1: Let me just check my fing.

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Speaker 6: You're seventeenth with no real hope to really make it

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Speaker 6: into that instant audit qualification. No, that will go to Liverpool,

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Speaker 6: that will go probably to Inter Milan, who have shown

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Speaker 6: themselves to be extremely competitive in the Champions format, and

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Speaker 6: it will go probably to Barcelona, who is pretty much

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02:24:12,879 --> 02:24:15,320
Speaker 6: the cream of the crop this year from Spain. Of course,

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02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:17,640
Speaker 6: we still have three more matchdays to go in the

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02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:20,640
Speaker 6: Champions League. Anything could really happen, and there's not enough

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02:24:20,680 --> 02:24:22,200
Speaker 6: points that really separate things.

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02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:24,879
Speaker 1: But it would take some hilacious losses to really.

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02:24:24,879 --> 02:24:27,600
Speaker 6: Knock the top three down all the way out of

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02:24:27,640 --> 02:24:30,360
Speaker 6: the consideration. And I don't think anyone's touching Liverpool at

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02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:33,360
Speaker 6: this point for that one seed, unless Inter really makes

2686
02:24:33,400 --> 02:24:37,520
Speaker 6: a big push in Liverpool stumbles and offers some help

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02:24:37,879 --> 02:24:40,880
Speaker 6: to the men in San Zero. We keep eagerly awaiting

2688
02:24:40,920 --> 02:24:44,119
Speaker 6: that as we await the MLS Cup playoff final announcement.

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Speaker 6: But hey, we mentioned Liverpool a little earlier, and good

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02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:50,840
Speaker 6: news for them. One of the biggest challenges facing Liverpool

2691
02:24:50,879 --> 02:24:53,960
Speaker 6: this year, besides just saying farewell to Jurgen Klop, we

2692
02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:59,400
Speaker 6: found very quick quickly that Arnslaught is a wonderful managing

2693
02:24:59,480 --> 02:25:02,040
Speaker 6: this squad right now, but also that they had a

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02:25:02,080 --> 02:25:05,440
Speaker 6: lot of guys on expiring contracts and unfortunately I don't

2695
02:25:05,480 --> 02:25:08,080
Speaker 6: think that the rest of Europe is going to feast

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02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:10,680
Speaker 6: upon the riches of Liverpool. And all you need to

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02:25:10,720 --> 02:25:13,840
Speaker 6: look at that is to their top man, Mohammed Salah. Now,

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02:25:13,879 --> 02:25:17,600
Speaker 6: Salah is not a homegrown talent for Liverpool. He actually

2699
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:20,879
Speaker 6: spent a few years. Of course, he grew up in Egypt,

2700
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:24,000
Speaker 6: played for plenty of clubs, got picked up by Chelsea

2701
02:25:24,080 --> 02:25:27,200
Speaker 6: in twenty fourteen, went around in a few loans and

2702
02:25:27,320 --> 02:25:30,039
Speaker 6: really made a name for himself playing for two very

2703
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:34,280
Speaker 6: good years in Italy's Roma club. But it is at

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02:25:34,360 --> 02:25:36,959
Speaker 6: Liverpool where he has become a sensation, one of the

2705
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:39,120
Speaker 6: best players in the world at one of the best

2706
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:42,560
Speaker 6: Egyptian strikers of all time, and it looks.

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Speaker 7: To be he will be remaining in Liverpool.

2708
02:25:44,959 --> 02:25:48,640
Speaker 6: There is talks that his camp wants a contract extension

2709
02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:51,000
Speaker 6: with Liverpool. It remains be seen if Liverpool will have

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02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:53,480
Speaker 6: the money for it. They don't exactly have the deep,

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02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 6: possibly illegal pockets of someone like Manchester City, but they

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02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:00,200
Speaker 6: are a club that usually I like to say, will

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02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:03,119
Speaker 6: do good right business and Mohammed Sala. If you're gonna

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02:26:03,120 --> 02:26:06,040
Speaker 6: pay one guy out of anyone right now, you probably

2715
02:26:06,080 --> 02:26:08,920
Speaker 6: pay the thirty two year old Egyptian who has just

2716
02:26:09,080 --> 02:26:13,600
Speaker 6: been a scoring terror on any opponent that dares stand

2717
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:16,840
Speaker 6: against him. And as Sala goes, so could go many

2718
02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:20,840
Speaker 6: other players for Liverpool. It's really not enough to state

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02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:23,960
Speaker 6: that this very hard start, hot start in both the

2720
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:27,240
Speaker 6: Premier League and in the Champions League has breathed new

2721
02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 6: life into Liverpool, who looks like they were really just

2722
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:32,760
Speaker 6: about ready to tear it down and eat a few

2723
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:35,480
Speaker 6: years in the wilderness while they tried to retool after

2724
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:39,160
Speaker 6: Jurgen Klop's departure. But with the advent of everything so

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02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:43,280
Speaker 6: far in this first quarter of Premier League play and

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02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:47,760
Speaker 6: about halfway through group play in the Champions League, Liverpool

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Speaker 6: is here to stay. That's it for us, Bernie. We'll

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Speaker 6: see you next time on the World of Soccer.

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Speaker 2: The World of Soccer. By the way, Liverpool, isn't that

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02:26:56,000 --> 02:27:02,279
Speaker 2: where that one band was from? Or the Beatles? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A lot happening in Liverpool. All right. Coming up, we

2732
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Speaker 2: wrap up the Bernie Fradler Show. We will tell the

2733
02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:15,440
Speaker 2: tale of a particular better at the DraftKings sportsbook, who

2734
02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:19,800
Speaker 2: lasted August, decided, what the hell, I'll wage one hundred

2735
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 2: dollars on a particular college in Ohio to win the

2736
02:27:23,879 --> 02:27:28,520
Speaker 2: college football playoff. And at that time the odds were

2737
02:27:28,600 --> 02:27:32,280
Speaker 2: ten thousand to one, which means the bet would have

2738
02:27:32,320 --> 02:27:36,400
Speaker 2: cashed a million dollars. Well, we're into December now and

2739
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:41,280
Speaker 2: it's been decided. I'll tell you what happened. Plus, let's

2740
02:27:41,320 --> 02:27:46,760
Speaker 2: take one last look from Michigan's epic win. And yes,

2741
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick to my guns here. I really believe

2742
02:27:50,440 --> 02:27:55,720
Speaker 2: that SARONN. Moore channeled Bull Schenn Beckler circa nineteen sixty

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Speaker 2: nine when his overmatched Wolverines win at a number one

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Speaker 2: Ohio State shunpeckers did no check that they played the

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02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:05,120
Speaker 2: game in ann Arbor, ohof Stateia won twenty two in

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02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:10,400
Speaker 2: a row and Michigan beat them. Will you consider some

2747
02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:12,080
Speaker 2: of the facts are sure with you heading into the

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02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:17,160
Speaker 2: game Saturday? The fact that Michigan went out right as

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02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:19,520
Speaker 2: a twenty point underdog and by the metrics, had maybe

2750
02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:21,640
Speaker 2: an eight percent chance at best to win that game,

2751
02:28:22,280 --> 02:28:24,600
Speaker 2: it will leave you scratching your head. Im Bernie Fradder

2752
02:28:24,600 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 2: will come to your line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports

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02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:29,320
Speaker 2: Radio tirect dot com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening

2754
02:28:29,320 --> 02:28:32,120
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frawle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

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02:28:32,160 --> 02:28:34,680
Speaker 2: we are wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show,

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02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:36,959
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Come to your line from the tarret

2757
02:28:36,959 --> 02:28:40,879
Speaker 2: dot com studios here in Las Vegas. Before I go

2758
02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:43,440
Speaker 2: any further, I want to think my broadcast team back

2759
02:28:43,480 --> 02:28:47,320
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. They've been with me since eleven pm

2760
02:28:47,760 --> 02:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Pacific time on Saturday night. Mark Ramsey, our technical producer,

2761
02:28:52,879 --> 02:28:57,600
Speaker 2: and Shay our executive producer. Teamwork, chemistry, keeping us out

2762
02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 2: in the air, turning all the dials, keeping is glued together.

2763
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Appreciate all the help and all the crews I work

2764
02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:08,480
Speaker 2: with the course. But you know, the trick to radio

2765
02:29:08,600 --> 02:29:11,520
Speaker 2: is it's not easy. Trick is making it look easy.

2766
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:13,240
Speaker 2: When you got a great broadcast team.

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02:29:13,480 --> 02:29:15,800
Speaker 7: They help you do that, you make it easy. Bernie.

2768
02:29:16,080 --> 02:29:18,480
Speaker 2: Well, thanks guys. It's a team here. It's a team here.

2769
02:29:18,480 --> 02:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Appreciate you.

2770
02:29:18,920 --> 02:29:19,960
Speaker 7: You're a family here.

2771
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:22,000
Speaker 2: Come on, we are family.

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02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:22,879
Speaker 7: Okay.

2773
02:29:23,320 --> 02:29:24,880
Speaker 2: All the hits are all we know the station for

2774
02:29:24,920 --> 02:29:29,000
Speaker 2: a good time and great oldies. All right, appreciate that guys.

2775
02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:32,520
Speaker 2: Great job to I especially on a brand new fool

2776
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:36,920
Speaker 2: and what my name as well? I mentioned a minute

2777
02:29:36,959 --> 02:29:42,480
Speaker 2: ago that one particular better at DraftKings sports book wagered

2778
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:45,359
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars on a certain college team from Ohio

2779
02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:48,120
Speaker 2: to win the college football playoff. At ten thousand and

2780
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:51,440
Speaker 2: one os before the season. That bet would have paid

2781
02:29:51,440 --> 02:29:54,440
Speaker 2: a million dollars. So how did it go? Well? First

2782
02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:58,320
Speaker 2: of all, he bet on Kent State Kent State to

2783
02:29:58,560 --> 02:30:01,960
Speaker 2: win the college football playoff through one hundred bucks. Maybe

2784
02:30:01,959 --> 02:30:04,400
Speaker 2: you better off lighting that money on fire at least

2785
02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:06,720
Speaker 2: to keep you warm. We don't want a million except

2786
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:09,200
Speaker 2: for one thing. Hell, Ken State didn't even win a

2787
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:12,640
Speaker 2: single game this year. The Golden Flashes finished show on twelve,

2788
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:15,560
Speaker 2: and the good news is they only lost by an

2789
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:18,800
Speaker 2: average with thirty points a game. Their point differential was

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02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:22,440
Speaker 2: minus three sixty two. With all due respect to this

2791
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:27,400
Speaker 2: fine gentleman, you talk about shooting babies at the moon

2792
02:30:27,480 --> 02:30:29,400
Speaker 2: or trying to hit a needle in a haystack. Bet,

2793
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:32,440
Speaker 2: this doesn't even begin to describe how wacky that is.

2794
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Almost as wacky as the Michigan Wolverines is twenty point

2795
02:30:36,879 --> 02:30:42,560
Speaker 2: underdogs winning at Ohio State Saturday. Just when you think

2796
02:30:42,600 --> 02:30:44,360
Speaker 2: you've seen it at all, you see something new? Or

2797
02:30:44,400 --> 02:30:46,680
Speaker 2: did you sure old Moore did the same thing that

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02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:49,360
Speaker 2: Beau sham Beckler did back in nineteen sixty nine. Let

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02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:52,200
Speaker 2: me set this up. Let's pretend you're the Michigan Wolverines.

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02:30:52,520 --> 02:30:55,720
Speaker 2: You're twenty point underdogs. You're facing one of the best

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02:30:55,720 --> 02:31:00,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State teams on paper that we can remember. You're

2802
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:02,920
Speaker 2: without You're Michigan, and you're without your best offensive player,

2803
02:31:02,959 --> 02:31:08,080
Speaker 2: tight in cold Colston Loveland. You're without your best defensive player,

2804
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:10,240
Speaker 2: Will Johnson will be a top five, top six pick

2805
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:13,240
Speaker 2: in the draft. You start a quarterback who's a walk

2806
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 2: on and a cancer survivor. It wasn't even your starting

2807
02:31:15,879 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 2: quarterback at the beginning of the year. You walk into

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02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:22,920
Speaker 2: that game with a first year coach and a team

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02:31:22,959 --> 02:31:28,640
Speaker 2: who struggled offensively mightily all year. You have an eight

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02:31:28,680 --> 02:31:31,800
Speaker 2: percent chance of winning according to the metrics. And let's

2811
02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 2: be honest, Michigan won the line of scrimmage early and often.

2812
02:31:36,400 --> 02:31:38,080
Speaker 2: They earned every bit of it. They ran for one

2813
02:31:38,160 --> 02:31:42,080
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy seven yards. When the situation demanded greatness,

2814
02:31:42,480 --> 02:31:44,840
Speaker 2: they did it. And give it up to Charon Moore,

2815
02:31:45,879 --> 02:31:49,119
Speaker 2: I'm sick and tired of people trying to stuff Lincoln

2816
02:31:49,160 --> 02:31:53,040
Speaker 2: Kennedy down. I love Lincoln Kennedy, not you, Lincoln Lincoln

2817
02:31:53,320 --> 02:31:56,400
Speaker 2: Riley down our throat. Give me his signature win please.

2818
02:31:56,560 --> 02:31:59,680
Speaker 2: In the last four years, Shearan Moore beat Ohio State.

2819
02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:02,600
Speaker 2: Last year is the inner when Jim Harball was suspended.

2820
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:07,800
Speaker 2: Charling Moore beat Michigan State earlier this year. You say,

2821
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 2: so what Michigan State? Yeah, I guess, But guess what

2822
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:13,840
Speaker 2: who never did that? Jim Harball didn't beat Michigan State

2823
02:32:13,879 --> 02:32:16,400
Speaker 2: his first year, both shanm Beckler didn't beat Michigan State

2824
02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:18,920
Speaker 2: his first year, Charan Moore beat Michigan State his first year,

2825
02:32:18,959 --> 02:32:22,240
Speaker 2: and Ohio State. And you can throw the records out

2826
02:32:22,280 --> 02:32:24,760
Speaker 2: the window. Now this is a Wolverine team, you know.

2827
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Casey Stengel once said teams can't beat the Yankees because

2828
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:31,320
Speaker 2: he gets stuck staring at the pinstripes. All due respect

2829
02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:34,160
Speaker 2: to Ryan Day, I think they gets stuck staring at

2830
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:37,800
Speaker 2: the winged helmet. They they're tentative. There's something about when

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02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:40,440
Speaker 2: he gets on the field with Ohio State or Michigan

2832
02:32:40,480 --> 02:32:43,600
Speaker 2: Excuse me, and do I think Ryan Dali'll be fired. No,

2833
02:32:43,680 --> 02:32:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. And they're still going to the playoffs,

2834
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:50,280
Speaker 2: and let's see how they do in the playoffs. He's

2835
02:32:50,320 --> 02:32:53,039
Speaker 2: got a thirty seven million dollars buyout. If he wants

2836
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:55,240
Speaker 2: out that bad, maybe they can negotiate something. I don't

2837
02:32:55,240 --> 02:32:57,240
Speaker 2: think he does, though, I don't think that's in his DNA.

2838
02:32:57,640 --> 02:32:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on there, but I don't

2839
02:32:59,200 --> 02:33:01,440
Speaker 2: think they're going to fly them. But if they're want

2840
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:04,360
Speaker 2: and done in the playoffs, I know the discussions will

2841
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:07,600
Speaker 2: certainly be more fervent. I just don't think it's in

2842
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:09,720
Speaker 2: the cards. I think it could be a gloomy offseason

2843
02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:12,320
Speaker 2: depending on how the Hoi State Buckeyes doing the playoffs.

2844
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:17,600
Speaker 2: But I just don't think it's it's gonna happen. Could

2845
02:33:17,600 --> 02:33:19,760
Speaker 2: I be wrong? Sure, it's not a zero, but I

2846
02:33:19,760 --> 02:33:23,360
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna happen. Speaking of the playoffs, we

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02:33:23,400 --> 02:33:28,560
Speaker 2: can now sort of project a new playoff bracket, and

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02:33:28,879 --> 02:33:31,080
Speaker 2: it's important to note that when you rank the top

2849
02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:33,480
Speaker 2: twenty five, it doesn't match the seed in the playoff.

2850
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:36,800
Speaker 2: You know, the four highest ranked conference champions through two,

2851
02:33:37,000 --> 02:33:38,680
Speaker 2: you know they're going to receive the top four seeds

2852
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:41,640
Speaker 2: and buys regardless of where they rank in the top

2853
02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:44,880
Speaker 2: twenty five. Now the fifth rank conference champion, he's also

2854
02:33:45,320 --> 02:33:48,240
Speaker 2: automatically in, even though that team will not get a buy.

2855
02:33:49,320 --> 02:33:52,199
Speaker 2: So when we talk about what I'm going to project

2856
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:56,160
Speaker 2: here now, this is based on right now where the

2857
02:33:56,240 --> 02:33:59,360
Speaker 2: rankings are, not what I will know will happen Tuesday,

2858
02:34:00,440 --> 02:34:02,840
Speaker 2: but it looks based on what we think we know now.

2859
02:34:02,920 --> 02:34:09,119
Speaker 2: Oregon obviously they'll be the number one seed convincingly right now.

2860
02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:13,280
Speaker 2: It appears right now that Texas will be the number

2861
02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:16,320
Speaker 2: two seed. Believe it or not. Miami, even though they

2862
02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:20,120
Speaker 2: got beat, they're the third highest ranking conference champion and

2863
02:34:20,160 --> 02:34:23,520
Speaker 2: seeded number three. But since they got beat, they won't

2864
02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:28,760
Speaker 2: even be going to the ACC championship game. So you

2865
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:32,840
Speaker 2: know that's gonna change. The Boise State fourth and right now,

2866
02:34:32,959 --> 02:34:38,080
Speaker 2: look it started today, Number nine Tennessee would play number

2867
02:34:38,120 --> 02:34:42,519
Speaker 2: eight Georgia. The winner would travel Oregon. Number twelve Arizona

2868
02:34:42,520 --> 02:34:45,080
Speaker 2: State would play Ohio State. I think Ohio State will

2869
02:34:45,160 --> 02:34:49,560
Speaker 2: end up be in the fifth seed. I just do.

2870
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:53,360
Speaker 2: They would host Arizona State. The winner would play number

2871
02:34:53,360 --> 02:34:58,760
Speaker 2: four Boise State in the quarterfinals. Indiana Penn State eleven

2872
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:01,880
Speaker 2: and six, two Big ten teams. I think that's stupid.

2873
02:35:02,160 --> 02:35:04,160
Speaker 2: The one matchup I love this year. I think this

2874
02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:07,760
Speaker 2: su meute team is scary good. But I was also

2875
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:12,760
Speaker 2: very impressed with Notre Dame Saturday. Very physical, very buttoned up,

2876
02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:18,080
Speaker 2: very explosive, very capable, very assignment sound. Once again, another

2877
02:35:18,120 --> 02:35:23,800
Speaker 2: signature loss for Lincoln Riley. They blew it late and

2878
02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:26,200
Speaker 2: then Tennessee Georgia. I looks like those two are gonna

2879
02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:28,959
Speaker 2: hook up. I don't think they they'll penalize Georgia even

2880
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:33,840
Speaker 2: if they lose the SEC game championship game against Texas,

2881
02:35:33,879 --> 02:35:37,400
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. Tuesday will be fun. I'll

2882
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:39,320
Speaker 2: be back on the airwaves next Friday night with plenty

2883
02:35:39,360 --> 02:35:42,360
Speaker 2: more high jinks and plenty more things to lead the

2884
02:35:42,400 --> 02:35:46,200
Speaker 2: news cycle. And in the meantime, you enjoy your NFL Sunday,

2885
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:48,760
Speaker 2: which is coming up here in about six hours. And

2886
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:52,320
Speaker 2: also in the meantime, keep it locked. You're listening to

2887
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:54,560
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, but up next to Great Andy

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02:35:54,640 --> 02:35:55,960
Speaker 2: Furman on Fox Sports Radio.